Speaker 1: What is up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode
Speaker 1: of The Mets the Podcast. Today, we are gonna be
Speaker 1: going over our official Mets trade deadline predictions. Different than
Speaker 1: what we've done the past. We're gonna tell you the
Speaker 1: players that we think are traded, as well as who
Speaker 1: they're gonna go to and what players we're gonna get back.
Speaker 1: A lot of prospect talking this one, especially for some
Speaker 1: other teams since the Mets are major sellers. Before we
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Speaker 1: a pretty good list here. I've got one, two, three,
Speaker 1: seven guys. How many have you got in yours?
Speaker 2: I have eight guys on the list, six, five that
Speaker 2: will be traded, three that will not be traded.
Speaker 1: Okay, that no trade prediction in itself. Yeah, six and two.
Speaker 1: So where do we want to start? I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you go first with a name. I think
Speaker 1: that'suld be Freddy Peralta. Yeah, okay, Freddy Peralta where you
Speaker 1: got him going.
Speaker 2: I think that the Mets and this team have had
Speaker 2: good relations this year, last few years. I think that
Speaker 2: makes it to go there. They've won the biggest needs.
Speaker 2: Freddy Pralta is going to the Chicago Cubs.
Speaker 1: Like we've said it all along, Okay, I went to
Speaker 1: the other south side. I knew you were gonna go Cubs.
Speaker 1: I'm going Chicago White Sox because they also need starting pitching.
Speaker 1: They're telling everyone they need starting pitching. Both both Chicago teams.
Speaker 1: I think one of them is going to get Freddy Pralta.
Speaker 1: That's it feels like a very good home for him.
Speaker 2: I have another big trade with us in the White
Speaker 2: Sox a different time on this list.
Speaker 1: Okay, So who do you think would come back from
Speaker 1: the Chicago Cubs in a Freddy Perlta trade.
Speaker 2: Again, I continue to wish into the universe Pedro Ramirez.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that winds up happening. I'm also
Speaker 2: not sure how much I love your You're Jackson Wiggins,
Speaker 2: Like he just seems like he keeps getting injured roast beef.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's roast beef. I think that
Speaker 2: we're going to be able to shoot higher for Freddy Peralta. Again,
Speaker 2: kind of different than what it seems like in the
Speaker 2: the world right now.
Speaker 1: But I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like the Mets are going to really try
Speaker 2: to make sure they get a position player that can
Speaker 2: contribute next season, and to me, that lines back up
Speaker 2: with either Pedro Ramirez or Matt Shaw. Whether or not
Speaker 2: that's actually what the Cubs wind up going for me
Speaker 2: to be seen, but I think the Bets are going
Speaker 2: to stand firm on that line as long as they can.
Speaker 1: Am I crazy and saying I have zero interest in
Speaker 1: Matt Shaw? I think a little crazy.
Speaker 2: I understand like being weird about Mattshaw because of stuff
Speaker 2: he's done in the past, but he's probably a functional
Speaker 2: He's probably you know, he's probably a probably better version
Speaker 2: of Brett Baby.
Speaker 1: Oh why you gotta say that? That hurts my That
Speaker 1: hurts But like I guess the other thing is they've
Speaker 1: got to be able. Like Patro Ramirez is obviously the
Speaker 1: better player. Do you think that he's less available than
Speaker 1: Matt Shaw? Yeah, probably less available than Thatt Shaw. I
Speaker 1: mean Shaw has more of the pedigree. Shaw has, the
Speaker 1: college production, the high draft pick Shaw's played plus defense
Speaker 1: all over the diamond, even as much as he's not
Speaker 1: been able to hit this year, he's a league average
Speaker 1: bat plus defense in multiple positions. Trying out the outfield
Speaker 1: now doing okay, They're kind of getting hot and cold. Thankfully,
Speaker 1: he's changed the stance that destroyed him all of last year.
Speaker 1: He's he probably.
Speaker 2: Does become a productive baseball player in his future. He
Speaker 2: probably again lines up as a guy that can start
Speaker 2: at their other second base next year.
Speaker 1: Is a two to three win player. That's basically it.
Speaker 2: I think Ramirez is the same, but with more tools
Speaker 2: and someone I think probably has a brighter future.
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I mean, listen, those two teams do
Speaker 1: seem like a good one. I'm looking at the White Sox.
Speaker 1: I pipe dream Tanner McDougal would be great. I think
Speaker 1: he's a fringe top one hundred guy. I think that's
Speaker 1: very similar to the Cal Steven trade with the Blue
Speaker 1: Jays last year with the Guardians and the Blue Jays,
Speaker 1: where McDougall probably is close to making it to the
Speaker 1: major league roster but isn't there just yet. And for
Speaker 1: a White Sox team that would make this movie because
Speaker 1: they want to win right now. I think you'd go
Speaker 1: for a Freddie Peralta over a guy who's gonna be
Speaker 1: a fringe Major leaguer for your roster this year but
Speaker 1: could help the Mets in the future. He's got good stuff, like,
Speaker 1: he's got a pretty big fastball. Fastball grades out. I
Speaker 1: think that like sixty sixty five corn to Baseball America
Speaker 1: an MLB pipeline, so he's thrown in the mid to
Speaker 1: upper nineties. He's got a good curveball, good slider, not
Speaker 1: really a fourth pitch, but I feel like that's kind
Speaker 1: of the archetype that we're looking for in terms of
Speaker 1: on the pitching side. Close ish to MLB ready, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I think this trade deadline's going to be about the
Speaker 2: Mets getting close to the MLB ready guys, guys that
Speaker 2: will contribute to.
Speaker 1: This roster as soon as next season. I think that's
Speaker 1: a huge goal for the Mets right now, especially because,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna sound crazy in a trade deadline where
Speaker 1: we have them both trading six or seven, six to
Speaker 1: seven players that it's not a full rebuild. We're the
Speaker 1: Mets are not going to enter a rebuilding mode. It's
Speaker 1: kind of impossible to when you have two players making
Speaker 1: over three hundred million dollars on the roster, as well
Speaker 1: as a bunch of good young guys around them. They're
Speaker 1: not going to rebuild, They're looking to retool. Tanner, McDougal, Pedro,
Speaker 1: Miraz match all these could be all guys that help
Speaker 1: the Mets a lot more in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Definitely hopefully. Next one I think I want to talk
Speaker 2: about is Luke Weaver. Yeah, he seems to be the
Speaker 2: big hot button guy right now. He's the one that
Speaker 2: reports today by friends of foul Territory. Robert Murray could
Speaker 2: be the best reliever available at the deadline because the
Speaker 2: Red Sox are not going to sell and unsure if
Speaker 2: Mason Miller will become available for the Padres, which I
Speaker 2: threw that one to the ether.
Speaker 1: It's really catching steam these a little bit. Well do
Speaker 1: you think it's gonna happen with Luke Weaver? I think
Speaker 1: Luke Weaver's is gonna be the Pirates guy. I think
Speaker 1: They're gonna throw them basically into that closer role. They've
Speaker 1: just been such a mess at the back end of
Speaker 1: their bullpen this year, and Greg Risoto had his Cinderella run.
Speaker 1: But like at the end of the day, they do
Speaker 1: need more quality arms and the Pirates farm system is
Speaker 1: a little bit awkward for what the Mets could be
Speaker 1: looking for. Like of the close to major league ready
Speaker 1: guys we talked about Hunter Barco before, he's probably too good,
Speaker 1: especially because Luke Weaver has another year attached to him
Speaker 1: and the Pirates are probably gonna be a little averse
Speaker 1: to taking on so much money, so maybe the Mets
Speaker 1: would have to pay the entire thing if you want
Speaker 1: to bring in a Hunter Barco. Truthfully, I don't think
Speaker 1: the Mets, or definitely not myself. I don't have any
Speaker 1: interest in the password Tamar Johnson, who are the other
Speaker 1: kind of like knocking on the doorstep MLB guys, I'm
Speaker 1: looking a little bit further down. Antoine Kelly would be
Speaker 1: a fun one. Sammy Steffura is a name that's a
Speaker 1: little bit further away from the major league level, but
Speaker 1: he's had a great year at Hia. Also grew up
Speaker 1: a Mets fan local kids, so would love to see that.
Speaker 1: Thomas Harrington's name that's been thrown out. And then Wilburdotel
Speaker 1: I think is another guy who's like closest to major
Speaker 1: league ready. I think he's made his debut already.
Speaker 2: But I think the Pirates would be very afraid of
Speaker 2: how much money Luke Weaver's doing next season.
Speaker 1: I mean, Bob Nutting probably should be. But also then
Speaker 1: they take on money this year in trades with like
Speaker 1: Brandon Lau and all these and a couple of the
Speaker 1: other guys that they brought in, So maybe because it's
Speaker 1: a little bit more palatable, or maybe the Mets I'm
Speaker 1: assuming that if they trade with the Pirates in any situation,
Speaker 1: the Mets are gonna give some money, which I think
Speaker 1: they should to get a better prospect. They also made
Speaker 1: a trade what like last week to save two mil. True.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I for this reason, I think I think Luke
Speaker 2: Weaver's not getting traded.
Speaker 1: I do. I think Luke Weaver will stick with this
Speaker 1: Mets team through the deadline. I think that he's gonna
Speaker 1: be too high. If he's if he is considered as
Speaker 1: the best reliever available, you have to trade him, have to,
Speaker 1: you have to.
Speaker 2: Maybe it still depends, like what the kind of prospect
Speaker 2: package return you were just describing, and that probably would
Speaker 2: come with the Mets paying down money of Luke Weaver.
Speaker 2: You probably have to give the Pirates five MIL for
Speaker 2: them to even think about, I think.
Speaker 1: Accepting him.
Speaker 2: But then you're to me, I don't think you're getting
Speaker 2: a piece that's more valuable than Luke Weaver if you're
Speaker 2: this serious about winning next season, which it seems like
Speaker 2: the Mets are maintaining that. We've seen trades for relievers
Speaker 2: arguably better than Luke Weaver over the last few years
Speaker 2: that did not net the same I keep going back
Speaker 2: to the trade the Iris probably regret making last deadline
Speaker 2: getting a couple of fringy, major league caliber players for
Speaker 2: David Bednar. And if that's what David Bednar got, and
Speaker 2: I do think in the world of baseball, David Bednar
Speaker 2: would have been viewed slightly higher than Luke Weaver. And
Speaker 2: that was in a market last year where felt like
Speaker 2: relievers were going for a lot. Even think about the
Speaker 2: return we got the Carlins took from US Ryan Helsey
Speaker 2: last year. I don't think that would be a return
Speaker 2: that the Mets would say, yeah, that's more valuable to
Speaker 2: us next year for Luke Weaver next year than those
Speaker 2: guys will be over the next three years.
Speaker 1: So I think that with the money. Luke Weaver is
Speaker 1: in no trade for me. Yeah, I think he's definitely
Speaker 1: on the move. I think there's I will I would
Speaker 1: be shocked if the Mets don't move him. I think
Speaker 1: it would be a bad move by the front office.
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying though from the play for
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. But at the same time, we know
Speaker 1: how finnicky relievers are, and while Luke Weaver's been great
Speaker 1: this year, do we think that it's as sticky as
Speaker 1: some of the other topper relievers in baseball. We've seen
Speaker 1: this happen in his own career.
Speaker 2: He fluctuates, But that I think is the exact thing
Speaker 2: the other teams will tell you when you're negotiating with them.
Speaker 2: You want a guy that's in your ten mail. But
Speaker 2: like I don't really have that much money. You have
Speaker 2: to throw this money in.
Speaker 1: I still don't want to give you any of my
Speaker 1: fit future value prospects. I think you're coming in very,
Speaker 1: very soft on the trade deadline with what what what
Speaker 1: guys are going to get? I know what we saw
Speaker 1: last year. Trade deadline last year sucked. There was nobody
Speaker 1: good moved well, I mean, and we're talking about Luke
Speaker 1: Weaver being the best reliever available. I know, but that's
Speaker 1: think about that. There's no there's no there's no depth,
Speaker 1: there's nothing. Nobody else is out there. There there's only
Speaker 1: one true seller. I think Luke Weaver's gonna get more.
Speaker 2: I I think it's not going to be enough to
Speaker 2: wind up trading him. I think we get through the
Speaker 2: deadline with him and whether and then we're gonna get
Speaker 2: leaked out the offers that came. We're gonna see what
Speaker 2: happened with other relievers. Yes, I just think if you
Speaker 2: don't get a player that's like better than a top
Speaker 2: hundred prospect, I don't see them doing it. I also
Speaker 2: don't see them getting that for a reliever. I don't
Speaker 2: see them getting a top hunchd prospects. Oh I'm saying
Speaker 2: I didn't name any top one hundred.
Speaker 1: That's I'm saying that even close. Yeah, No, of course
Speaker 1: I didn't think they would get a top one hundred
Speaker 1: guy for Luke Weaver.
Speaker 2: So I think what the Mets are going to wind
Speaker 2: up doing because these relievers standalone value is not going
Speaker 2: to be great. I think that they are going to
Speaker 2: give some packages. And that's why with Freddie Pralta. I'm
Speaker 2: never gonna quit that pipe dream for Pedro Mirez.
Speaker 1: I think that's a package deal with Brooks Rayley, and
Speaker 1: I think you you sandwich Freddy Peralta with Brooks Railey,
Speaker 1: AJ Minter Clay Holmes with the other one, and that's
Speaker 1: how you get your guy that you think is actually
Speaker 1: a starving caliber player moving forward with the major leagues. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't pick any of the same teams
Speaker 1: just because I wanted to just spread it out a
Speaker 1: little bit more and talk about some guys. I had
Speaker 1: Brooks Raley going to the Blue Jays. I don't think
Speaker 1: the blue Jays think they're out of him. They've had
Speaker 1: no left handed relievers basically the entire year that have
Speaker 1: been any sort of good. So I think the Blue
Speaker 1: Jays are an interesting team, especially because I don't think
Speaker 1: that they're in the position to accept that they're not
Speaker 1: going to be trying to make a playoff spot still
Speaker 1: in what is a god awful American league. There's some
Speaker 1: fun guys down the line that like you could take
Speaker 1: a look at, maybe like a Kassovich, who's like a
Speaker 1: top ten prospect in their organization. Middle and field corner
Speaker 1: infield guy on the third base side. Some of the
Speaker 1: more fun names down the list, just that are close
Speaker 1: to major league ready. I wouldn't be shocked to the Mets.
Speaker 1: Look at Adam Maco as like an arm that's just
Speaker 1: like try he ready for a reliever who's going to
Speaker 1: be thirty eight or whatever. Brooks Rail is going to
Speaker 1: be in a hit free agency. Yeah, just someone that here, here, here,
Speaker 1: you go, give it a shot. Charles McAdoo played at
Speaker 1: the major league level this year, Like, that's what I
Speaker 1: would expect for the Mets. Back is kind of that
Speaker 1: utility depth piece guy. He was. McAdoo was last trade deadline,
Speaker 1: he went Pirates to Blue Jays, right, Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: for somewhere man.
Speaker 2: Was he the Spencer Orwitch trade or was he? Oh
Speaker 2: he was the IKF trade of easy to get those
Speaker 2: two mixed out?
Speaker 1: Of course?
Speaker 2: Wait, so that was we was talked about. That was
Speaker 2: portrayli All right, now, I'm gonna do the same thing
Speaker 2: aj mintor Clay Holmes package deal to the south Side
Speaker 2: Chicaguhen you were talking before, I was like, damn, we
Speaker 2: have the same idea. Well, Southside Chicago, those two together
Speaker 2: fix the White Sox.
Speaker 1: Well, what's hilarious is I have Clay Holmes going to
Speaker 1: the Chicago Cubs, so we go flop flop them. We
Speaker 1: just flip flopped it, which is kind of funny. But
Speaker 1: what do you think we're gonna get back from them
Speaker 1: in that kind of package?
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Speaker 2: So I went there because I thought that the Cubs
Speaker 2: would be much more aggressive this deadline than the White Sox.
Speaker 2: And if there's one or two White Sox fans that
Speaker 2: are listening to this, I'm sorry, I just don't see
Speaker 2: you guys like super hardcore pushing in. I think that's
Speaker 2: where this winds up as and I think we get
Speaker 2: just prospects down their system that aren't you know, are truthfully,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, this aren't that great, And I like
Speaker 2: we need kind of some middle infield depth in their
Speaker 2: minor leagues. William Bergola, I think he's someone that has
Speaker 2: like a little bit of upside to be a regular
Speaker 2: just as like a glove fit. I think that's kind
Speaker 2: of where we would be looking. We kind of just
Speaker 2: saw the White Sox be creative with moving Jacob Gonzalez
Speaker 2: to get some stuff. I see them being similarly creative
Speaker 2: in that. I still think Samuel Savalla could be a
Speaker 2: center fielder in the future. But I just don't think
Speaker 2: we're getting a ton for the half season of Clay
Speaker 2: Holmes plus a reliever, even as much as I want
Speaker 2: to think that there's a good piece coming back. I
Speaker 2: mentioned David Sandlin last week as well. I think that
Speaker 2: would be a great spot to be. Jettison Pie is
Speaker 2: who they got from. I believe the Red Sox.
Speaker 1: I think this.
Speaker 2: Offseason he is just a command guy, but there's no
Speaker 2: coaxing of stuff happening. I would love for us to
Speaker 2: coax some stuff, and I do, like Dander McDougall you before,
Speaker 2: but I think that might just be shooting.
Speaker 1: Too high for us. Yeah, I think if there was
Speaker 1: ever someone, it would be Freddie over Clay that that
Speaker 1: would get that, even though right now Clay Holmes was
Speaker 1: pitching way better than Frey Peul that ever has this year.
Speaker 1: But I think that's the guy who would get it.
Speaker 1: And then I'll just I'll briefly talk about my Clay
Speaker 1: Holmes to the Cubs, just because we've already gone over it.
Speaker 1: Some other names I think that could be on the
Speaker 1: move for the Cubs that are like prospectee. I think
Speaker 1: Jonathan Long, first base prospect, could be on the move
Speaker 1: from the Cubs. They have just kind of a logjam
Speaker 1: of guys that are eventually gonna need to play first
Speaker 1: base only, and I just don't really see him sticking around.
Speaker 1: James Treantos is another name that's been like fringe top
Speaker 1: one hundred, hasn't really burst through. I think he's another
Speaker 1: name that could be on a move, a utility ish
Speaker 1: type player for the Mets moving forward, if they were
Speaker 1: to go and trade for him. And then that's kind
Speaker 1: of it. In the names that I'm particularly interested in.
Speaker 1: There might be some other names. We'll find out more
Speaker 1: as we move along. Yeah, No, definitely, we want to
Speaker 1: go to next. I guess because you mentioned AJ Minter,
Speaker 1: I'll briefly just think I think he's I don't know why.
Speaker 1: It feels like a Saint Louis cardinal. AJ Minton feels
Speaker 1: like he'd love Saint Louis. I feel like that'd be
Speaker 1: a good home for him, and they're left handed pitching
Speaker 1: options out of the bullpen. I know Jojo Romero is
Speaker 1: the guy, but it just it hasn't been very good.
Speaker 1: I think they have one of the highest left handed
Speaker 1: bullpen relief eras and all of baseball, which against small sample.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of fun names in the Cardinals system.
Speaker 1: Like do they move it to Coobi, who's kind of
Speaker 1: not like bursting through is kind of in that four
Speaker 1: A range right now. I think that would be a lot.
Speaker 1: That might be the top end that the Mets could
Speaker 1: get because he will be a major league starting pitcher.
Speaker 1: But maybe we get a little bit crazy and you
Speaker 1: go after some of the guys that they even brought in,
Speaker 1: like a yoker for a hardo, or you go for
Speaker 1: the control, controllable arm that's going to be bullpen in
Speaker 1: his entire life. Is this the tink Kents trade?
Speaker 2: Finally, the Tinkent's trade? Just make him a shutdown reliever
Speaker 2: like he probably, Oh we should have been. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's a funny thing with the Cardinals front office
Speaker 2: that acquired so many prospects in.
Speaker 1: Such a high volume this offseason. When you go out
Speaker 1: and acquire a prospect like that.
Speaker 2: From Heim Bloom's perspective, when you first get this job
Speaker 2: and get out your control, are you more prone to
Speaker 2: move those guys or more prone to just move the
Speaker 2: guys who've already been in your system for a while
Speaker 2: because you just you just refreshed with guys that fit
Speaker 2: your mold, things that you like, guys that you've identified
Speaker 2: more recently. And for those guys who strike out rate
Speaker 2: has climbed kind of expectedly this season. He looks like
Speaker 2: I do someone that probably next year becomes something like
Speaker 2: a top hundred prospect as long as the command hopefully
Speaker 2: maybe evens out at some point. But they they have
Speaker 2: an interesting system, But they're another team like do they buy?
Speaker 2: And I was struggling through struggling going through this because
Speaker 2: a lot of the teams that I think need these things,
Speaker 2: the Mets are offering starting pictures and relievers, like the
Speaker 2: Phillies could really use reliever, especially with the Brad Keller
Speaker 2: news that just came down. Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 2: the Mets make a trade with him. They also don't
Speaker 2: have much in their system to move. The Braves could
Speaker 2: really use a star the We talked about that a
Speaker 2: lot last video. It would remain to be seen whether
Speaker 2: or not this Mets regime, David Stearns is willing to
Speaker 2: help the Braves, and I was just I was desperately
Speaker 2: trying to find a way to make a trade with
Speaker 2: the Yankees, because I think that's like one you.
Speaker 1: Got one, you put one on. I got one of
Speaker 1: them there. Who'd you do Louis Urrenz, Oh, perfect, Yeah,
Speaker 1: send them right back to the Yankees. I had him
Speaker 1: as a notre. I think the Mets are blown smoke
Speaker 1: with all his catcher stuff, but I think they'll try.
Speaker 1: I think they're definitely gonna try. I think if I
Speaker 1: think in the most respectful way ever, I think if
Speaker 1: you get a warm body that plays the field, they
Speaker 1: will take it. For Luis Torrentz like he's been a
Speaker 1: great backup. But if you get offered anything that you
Speaker 1: think can turn into a good baseball player or even
Speaker 1: a major league at some point, you probably should move
Speaker 1: on from your backup catcher who's now in a guaranteed contract. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: I think it's the exact same idea with Tyrone Taylor.
Speaker 2: I didn't even put him to yeah, because he's gonna go.
Speaker 2: He's going to wind up on some team that can
Speaker 2: just use a sturdy outfielder Phillies.
Speaker 1: He's the Philly guy. You think he's You think David
Speaker 1: Starns makes sure of the Phillies and is Tyrone Tailor.
Speaker 1: I think it's like as light as it could be.
Speaker 1: It's Tyrone Taylor. You can take him. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: your fourth outfielder, help out Justin Crawford against those tough lefties.
Speaker 1: But like otherwise, I mean, to me, that's like the Rays.
Speaker 1: You think, so, yeah, Tyron Taylor just wind up. He
Speaker 1: just him and Cedric Mullins center field platoon heading to
Speaker 1: the players. You've seen this already. We know what that
Speaker 1: looks like.
Speaker 2: It seems like it might work this other time around.
Speaker 2: But that's that's that's to me, like how those guys happen.
Speaker 1: I still don't know if the Mets are actually comfortable
Speaker 1: enough to get off a catcher because wake the catcher
Speaker 1: depths in the system we talked about last videos.
Speaker 2: Hate what I'm saying, give Hand's anger shot. I would
Speaker 2: love to see Hayte Sager get those reps the rest of
Speaker 2: the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, why not really? Actually? But yeah, kind of,
Speaker 1: I have nobody else. Those are all my guys, all right,
Speaker 1: I have one more.
Speaker 2: I think firmly gets traded. Luis Robert, Louise Robert, I
Speaker 2: think he gets traded. I think this is the Guardians.
Speaker 2: The Guardians love doing this every year. This is Lane Thomas.
Speaker 2: This is who's the other outfield that they made a
Speaker 2: half season move forward.
Speaker 1: I mean they traded for Miles Straw. Remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was another one like four years ago. We
Speaker 2: were like, oh yeah, there's another one.
Speaker 1: Just completely full find it. I'll find it.
Speaker 2: And I'm calling out a specific guy in their system
Speaker 2: who I like. It's kind of very similar to the
Speaker 2: draft pick we just made in Carson Wiggins, but it's
Speaker 2: Joey Oki, third round pick twenty twenty four. The Guardians
Speaker 2: gave him like fringe first second round money to try
Speaker 2: and to get him away from college. They did so,
Speaker 2: and he's just not progressed as they I'm sure they
Speaker 2: would have liked in their system. He is all stuffed,
Speaker 2: no command what to whoever, the command keeps getting worse.
Speaker 2: I could see them being like, it hasn't worked so far.
Speaker 2: We're down to basically sell low on a prospect like
Speaker 2: this and start to try a different one. And I
Speaker 2: can see the Mets being like, all right, we're down
Speaker 2: for another wicked ball of clay power pitcher dude who
Speaker 2: just looks like he can, at worst case scenario, develop
Speaker 2: as a frontline reliever.
Speaker 1: In a few years. Yeah, I mean, I I'm just
Speaker 1: holding on to the dream that he's gonna come back.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be great, and then he's just part of
Speaker 1: this team and I love him, and that's fine. It's
Speaker 1: let me have my dreams. But yeah, he's he's probably gone.
Speaker 1: As long as he like actually plays games before the deadline,
Speaker 1: I think you definitely will.
Speaker 2: Usually the news we're getting on him is that he
Speaker 2: should be back playing ball like next week. Okay, And
Speaker 2: if that's the case, like, that's gonna be a hell
Speaker 2: of a showcase.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch. I'm gonna have to get
Speaker 1: to the ball to the park early. Let us pay
Speaker 1: my respects. Watch one more Luis Roberts batting practice. Man,
Speaker 1: we haven't even seen one. I haven't been to the
Speaker 1: ballpark that early this year. I don't want to watched
Speaker 1: this team.
Speaker 2: And we also never really get home batting practice no
Speaker 2: matter how it really get to the ballpark. And besides that,
Speaker 2: I think a Bob trade is too far fetched. I'm
Speaker 2: not even gonna comment on a Francisco Lindor trade. I
Speaker 2: think Francisco Alvarez similarly won't happen. Hora Planco trade would
Speaker 2: really tickle me, but he has to really look healthy.
Speaker 1: These next two weeks, I saw a couple interesting trade
Speaker 1: rumors or I shouldn't say trade rumors, trade proposals thrown
Speaker 1: out by people about Uhjree Polanco and Luke Weaver, and
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I mean, if we got Lazara
Speaker 1: Montes back, I'm gonna I'm gonna pop champagne for that,
Speaker 1: for that whole that'd be unbelievable.
Speaker 2: I also did have one more, Actually, do you think, well, okay,
Speaker 2: go code Asanga.
Speaker 1: You think he gets traded. I have a feeling he
Speaker 1: gets traded.
Speaker 2: But I think there's only a few teams that would
Speaker 2: be willing to take this on to be a team
Speaker 2: that would have to give him incredibly specific instructions about
Speaker 2: how to be a high leverage reliever and help their
Speaker 2: playoff run this year. And when I narrowed that down,
Speaker 2: I got to the Yankees, the Guardians, the I think
Speaker 2: I think like the Phillies could pull it off. I
Speaker 2: don't see the Mets doing that, the rulers and then
Speaker 2: the Dodgers. But then you also have to have the
Speaker 2: money to be willing to accept code asanga. We talk
Speaker 2: about this every time, somewhere between thirteen and fifteen MILLI
Speaker 2: next season. I kind of think the Dodgers would take
Speaker 2: that on if we take a little bit of money
Speaker 2: off them, which is kind of a funny thing to say,
Speaker 2: but I do wonder as they still have high sunk
Speaker 2: him worth a few mil pothering around triple A and
Speaker 2: to us, that can be someone that can mix in
Speaker 2: utility guy next year have a shot to do something
Speaker 2: good athlete, and then I feel like that could be
Speaker 2: something that maybe possibly might happen, even though he's been
Speaker 2: terrible in the minor leagues. He's been terrible, and he's
Speaker 2: been the major leagues.
Speaker 1: Just has a way the equal that money be like,
Speaker 1: here's here's my problem, give me your problem. So just
Speaker 1: trading the two foreign players that we both don't want
Speaker 1: on our team for each other essentially change the scenery
Speaker 1: for both of them where they're from.
Speaker 2: Has nothing to do with it, but is part of
Speaker 2: the fact that each of these guys are kind of
Speaker 2: stuck out of the wall with their current organizations and
Speaker 2: maybe the other one can help you unlock something. And
Speaker 2: also at the same time being like we're taking out
Speaker 2: their team mill, you have to take four mil from us.
Speaker 1: That was a really nice way to say what you
Speaker 1: just said. That they've they've both hit a wall. They're stuck.
Speaker 1: Professional professional podcaster right here. But yeah, that's are gonna
Speaker 1: be active though. Are our official trade deadline predictions again?
Speaker 1: Francisco Indoor is not going anywhere for Squawbers. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's going anywhere. I don't think he's going anywhere.
Speaker 1: I don't think any of the big names are going anywhere.
Speaker 1: I also don't think Brett Batty, Ronnie Maurisio, Mark Martintos
Speaker 1: are going anywhere because I think they have zero value.
Speaker 1: Of all of them, I think Brett Brett Batty has
Speaker 1: the most value. I think the other two have literally nothing.
Speaker 2: I think the reason that they won't train him because
Speaker 2: he has the most value. I think the Mets see
Speaker 2: him as one of the twenty six guys next year
Speaker 2: one hundred percent still probably is.
Speaker 1: Probably If Brett Baty's your twenty six man, it's pretty
Speaker 1: good roster. Great roster. I mean That's that's what we're
Speaker 1: going for. The problem is that right now is one
Speaker 1: of the ten.
Speaker 2: So as we're recording this, we just got news that
Speaker 2: the game's actually moving up, oh because the horrible air
Speaker 2: quality's supposed to get even worse as we moved through
Speaker 2: the weekend.
Speaker 1: And really I thought it was supposed to be good
Speaker 1: by like Saturday. It's gotta be good by the World Cup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think by Saturday. All right, tomorrow's Friday. Whatever. Just
Speaker 1: don't go outside. It's simple as easy. Yeah, exactly. I
Speaker 1: couldn't even belve, like, walked out of my apartment this morning,
Speaker 1: a small the campfires like this house is real hot.
Speaker 1: Take love the smell. Yeah, I don't like breathing and inconsistent.
Speaker 1: It's definitely super unhealthy for us. Yeah yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: big one right there. But uh, prayers ups all the
Speaker 1: people in Northern Canada. Yeah right, and sorry, I mean na, sorry,
Speaker 1: I sucks a week to deal with your mess. Lit'tle
Speaker 1: reminder there. James about to move up the time because
Speaker 1: we got the Philly series coming up. But first, Mets
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Speaker 2: We've got more breaking news even after the game time
Speaker 2: being moved up on Thursday, which that's not gonna mean
Speaker 2: anything to you guys. Marcus Simion was apparently activated. Whoa
Speaker 2: Marcus Simeon back and Zach Short. You got clips complaining
Speaker 2: about Zach Short DFA it again. So if we know
Speaker 2: anything about when Zack Short gets DFA, Mets are about
Speaker 2: to go into magical run, capture our Hearts, produce a song,
Speaker 2: where's probably go.
Speaker 1: The NLCS hose. Glysias was posting Mets stuff with the
Speaker 1: own jack. That's that's really sad, right, I feel bad
Speaker 1: Rosaic Glasius. Maybe they'll give him like an ambassador role
Speaker 1: or something, but they it's kind of sad. They should
Speaker 1: let him do the hype man thing before the game.
Speaker 1: Like you're called the New York Mets. They were just
Speaker 1: gonna get trapped in the themg SI coastes forever. But
Speaker 1: I guess that's news. Marcus Simian's back, so you get
Speaker 1: to watch us play baseball again when.
Speaker 2: Louis Robert comes back, We're all these guys gonna play.
Speaker 1: We'll figure it out.
Speaker 2: I guess I was hoping Samion would just kind of
Speaker 2: coast through the end of July until he had to
Speaker 2: come back.
Speaker 1: Oh God, it would have been nice. But hey, I
Speaker 1: guess he's back early. He's ready to play. Who's he
Speaker 1: gonna be facing on the mountain? James?
Speaker 2: I love that those pitching matchups right now. The Mets
Speaker 2: and Phillies are actually some of the teams that disclose
Speaker 2: their matchups ahead of time, just because most teams don't
Speaker 2: because they don't have to until Friday. Makes fancy baseball
Speaker 2: absolute disaster.
Speaker 1: But the Phillies have a manicured their rotation so as
Speaker 1: to not have to let their best guys face uten
Speaker 1: because they have the Dodgers coming after us. It's a
Speaker 1: really nice tip of the cap. But Thursday, we're living
Speaker 1: in the past right now. Christians God versus Aaron Nola,
Speaker 1: Saturday four to five Sean and iyajesus Lazzar though left off,
Speaker 1: and Sunday one thirty five, the lappetizer for the World
Speaker 1: Cup Final. Nolan McClain versus Allan Wrangle the hell is
Speaker 1: Allen Wrangle.
Speaker 2: He's been kind of he kind of took Todd one
Speaker 2: Walker spot as like the mix and match fifth guy
Speaker 2: Rare Pitcher out of Mexico, which is kind of fun.
Speaker 1: He's not he misses bats. He's really not bad at all.
Speaker 1: I think he could actually so to He's he's Alan
Speaker 1: Ron healll for sure, Alan Ron Hell, that's my bad.
Speaker 1: I kind of like calling him Wrangle though, Wrangle, I
Speaker 1: mean spelling wrangle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Alan Wrangle, but Alan Ron Hell, you guys just
Speaker 2: saw this team destroy us. I feel like that probably
Speaker 2: happens again. I don't know where this Mets team energy
Speaker 2: level is going to be out of the break. We're
Speaker 2: gonna learn a lot, I guess on Thursday at the
Speaker 2: weird game of the Weird time.
Speaker 1: I just it's kind of laid down mode for the Mets.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Phillies, Brewers, Dodgers, Braves, Marlins right out of
Speaker 2: the break, and then Guardian's right when Jose Ramirez comes back,
Speaker 2: We're we're facing teams in the playoff race like in perpetuity.
Speaker 1: I feel like I saw a graphic that said that
Speaker 1: we have the second hardest schedule in the second half,
Speaker 1: which means that there's no shot that the Mets are
Speaker 1: not selling by the way, guys to tie back to
Speaker 1: this video, and I did see and people saying like,
Speaker 1: but what if we come out hot by the trade deadline.
Speaker 1: I think the Mets could go win thirteen of their
Speaker 1: next sixteen and there's still seven games under five.
Speaker 2: Hundred, Like even the Red Sox winning nine in a row,
Speaker 2: Like if we win nine in a row, wo'd still
Speaker 2: be like eight games under.
Speaker 1: God, it is depressing.
Speaker 2: The Mets have zero percent chance to wedge back into
Speaker 2: the season. I give credit to Wan so though and
Speaker 2: all of his media availability the All Star festivities to
Speaker 2: be like, hey, you know, we like, we know we
Speaker 2: haven't play well enough. We just gotta get hot and
Speaker 2: die this thing together. Not going to happen.
Speaker 1: No, the Mets win nine in a row, they'll have
Speaker 1: one more win than the Washington Nationals have. Right now,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. There's no shot.
Speaker 2: It's oh by then they'll have Obviously it's over. Everyone
Speaker 2: watching his nose.
Speaker 1: It's over.
Speaker 2: But again, looking at the way the Phillies even lined
Speaker 2: up their pictures, I know Christopher Sanchez started in the
Speaker 2: like the All Star Game, and I know that you
Speaker 2: want to give Zach Wheeler more of a break because
Speaker 2: of everything he's gone through it in recovering from his
Speaker 2: cos this year. But they organize so their best two
Speaker 2: pitchers would not face us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, take advantage of it. Why not.
Speaker 2: Let's go think about that for a second. That's that's
Speaker 2: where they, I guess, take advantage of it.
Speaker 1: Have fun.
Speaker 2: I would like to beat the Phillies, but I just
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch this game just to watch Aju and Carson.
Speaker 1: Bencha wants so though for Cisco Lindor, Fryisc Lindor. Of
Speaker 1: course Boba Shadow like to see that Marky Simeon, Marc
Speaker 1: Siman's back. He's not starting. I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on with this guy. Maybe he's just gonna revert back
Speaker 1: to being a lefty guy. I don't know what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen with this team for the next two months. And
Speaker 1: guess what, you'll still listen to us and watch us.
Speaker 1: That's how you'll learn because you probably don't want to
Speaker 1: watch every ending of every game. That's why we do it.
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