WEBVTT - #421 - Ray Vaughn 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.400 It's Rayvon, and y'all could check me out on a 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:04.600 Bootleg cav podcast You Feel Me. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:13.280 The Bootleg cav Podcasts, Bootlet CAV Show Special guests, Finally Stop, 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:17.440 Finally Stop, Rayvon. 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.079 Thank you. What's the deal? 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:23.960 What has been going on? I mean, I mean, I've 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:28.720 never ever seen a label be so meticulous about having 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:31.920 an incredible artist like yourself and putting out zero music 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:32.680 for so long. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:34.760 Because on the face so we was developing. 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.160 You've been playing me some shit for years, and I'm like, dog, 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:39.680 you play me a song that made me cry. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.360 Yeah, but that's like that something that's gonna make you cry. 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:43.560 But we got that. 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:46.680 I got that now, all that song gonna come out, Yes, 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:48.560 definitely better come out. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:50.239 It is on the album. 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.560 But we also needed those records that our hits what 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.240 we were just talking about. So I feel like I 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.680 got like seven of those on one project. You got 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:01.320 a lot, I got a lot. I mean I've heard 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:01.840 some records with. 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:06.880 You and some big names, yeah, huge James. Yeah, the Baby, huh, I. 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:07.520 Think about the. 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.600 I already knew about pre Canceled Baby too, huh. Pre 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:15.240 Canceled Baby. 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:18.559 Yeah you had a yeah, Yeah, you got some big ones. Yeah, 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:20.880 push your teeth that we can talk about that. 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.319 Yeah, we can talk about that. Well what was that like? 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.920 Were you intimidated to be like, man, did you know 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:27.480 Push was getting on the record? Did you just send 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.000 him like a few records and he picked that one? 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.080 Like no, no, no, So we did the record. I did 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.920 the record. At first Top walked in and he was. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.280 Like, uh, what you working on home, baby boy? 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.080 And then that's how he walked in the room real 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.800 boogie managed and he was like, what y'all working on? 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.240 And then we uh I played him that and he like, man, 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.440 this is uh he was He got really excited, like 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.280 this fire. And after that he was like, uh, you know, 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.640 I'd be crazy if we got pushed on there, and 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:53.080 I'm like, push, that would be fire. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.200 And then it was just idea. 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:58.560 And then one day he called me to the studio like, hey, 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.320 come up here, I need you to I've got what 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:01.880 he told me. I knew it was Bullyshakes, and I'm 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.760 like I already did that, but I went up there anyway, 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.680 and then he played the record for me. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.360 Like that, Yeah, I mean there is uh something to 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.799 be said about. There's two labels that I always look 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.440 to when it comes to just like high artists in 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:21.239 Tirety and it's you guys, TD, dream Bill, both labels, 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:25.080 whoever they signed is fire right. But like you said, 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.880 you've been I mean you had like a few years ago, 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.120 the freestyle run that like people were like, Yo, what 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.600 the fuck your lebron reposting your freestyle? I think it 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.720 was it was like Shaq everybody talking to I mean, 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.120 cause you had been I remember when you were coming up, 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:39.919 you would drop the freestyles in the front of your 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.200 car before you were on TV, before I was on TV. Yeah, 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:43.920 that's how I went viral. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:45.680 That's how I was, Like I started building a name 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:49.359 for myself on those uh off those freestyles in a 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.760 car just wrapping in a car talking about my real life. Yeah, 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:56.760 but I'm saying like it's it's just it's just it's interesting, Like, 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:00.919 was the thought process of kind of or you've been 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:02.519 getting put through because you've been writing a lot. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.720 Yeah, you're always always see in the studio writing for 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:08.600 other artists, But what's the thought process of rolling you 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.560 out slow slowly, Like are you going through like wrapper 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:12.480 boot camp or something. 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.519 It was rapper boot camp at first, and then it 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.799 was like more and so we just we got to 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.040 make sure that they stick because we see a lot 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:22.200 of artists that's mail that are just coming and going, 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.560 and even established artists are not sticking. You know, they 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.200 dropping projects and they out of here next week, they 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.200 out of here. And it's like they're not dropping no records. 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.080 They don't care about no hits, they don't care about nothing, 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.000 and they just trying to I don't know what they're 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.520 trying to do, but I know I ain't trying to 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.040 do what they're trying to do. So for the most part, 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:44.040 it was just more developing a sound like my pepperoni pizza. 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:44.720 Like what what? 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:48.280 Because I'm such a anomaly, I can do everything, so 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.440 I do everything, so I try to. Like they're like, 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.320 you need a sound that we can market up and 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.840 be like, hey, this is his pepperoni pizza by it. 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.880 Yes he has pineapple pizza, Yes he has salad, yes 0:03:57.920 --> 0:03:58.520 he has one. 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:00.720 Yeah, but pizza. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:04.080 We got all that stuff. Yeah, man, I'm going up there. 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.040 Y'all got wings? Yeah, we don't get some wings. 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.360 So so you honed in, you kind of figured out. 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.880 What it is, what the sound is, and then now 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.480 it's like polished to where when I do feature with people, 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.240 it sound like them featuring me, not me featuring them. 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.680 M M, you know, not not I mean me me 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.919 featuring them, not them featuring me. So that I'm bringing 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:26.760 them into my world of what I want the sound 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:28.960 to be, not jumping into what they want them to be. 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.159 Whatever you do, just don't lose the relatability of your content. 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.719 Oh no, never, because you're I feel like your strong 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.400 point of the music I hear Pepperoni is your vulnerability. 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:40.960 Everybody said it, that's my Pepperoni piece for sure. 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.760 Yeah, we got that, And I feel like we just 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.560 we just creating a space for duality so that people 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:49.800 can be like, oh yeah, because if you. 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:51.679 Could do both, Yeah, we could do both. Like another 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.960 guy who was on DD who did really good job 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:54.479 of doing both. 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:55.480 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.360 They can hit records and being very vulnerable, being very transparent. 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.600 Yeah you know what I'm saying, Just like you. Yeah, uh, 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.839 talk about some of the writing you've done, because you 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.479 have been writing a lot. I feel like his writing 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.520 kind of helped, like keep the dream alive while you're 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:11.360 not putting out music. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:13.719 Now you're in the studio, a lot. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:15.640 But even then, I'm always working on my own stuff 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.400 and trying to figure out, like the dreams stay alive, 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.520 like you know me from before I was signed, So 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.120 it's like from the car shit, I was like trying 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.800 to figure it out. So anything on TV is better 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.840 than being back in that car ship where I'm not 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:29.920 knowing where the dollars is coming from, and I'm like, man, 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.600 and writing was before even TD. I was in room 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.039 with people like Danny and stuff like that. I don't 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:35.880 want to name that because you. 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.120 Know, I know you helped write with Danny La right 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:39.200 anybody else. 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.280 There's a lot of more people. I just know they 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:42.200 got me signing papers. 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:43.760 Now, man, did you get in any of those love 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:49.039 sessions with Diddy? Excuse me, the Diddy love Sessions? I 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:50.280 just got to ask. I know a lot of people 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:51.919 who were writing. I was just wondering how they were. No, 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:52.560 I was not. 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.360 I was. I was not at Ditty's house. 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.760 Man. I didn't say you were. I said the love sessions, 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.280 the Diddy sessions, the Diddy house is a lot of 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.640 people wrote on that album and it was a great album. 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:03.520 Did you write it? 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.600 Let's gonna ask now. Bryson was on there. He shout 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.839 out to Bryson, he did some close shit on there. 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:14.200 Pang Griffy Man, Yeah, Pan Griffy for sure. Do you 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:19.839 feel any level of pressure because with the anticipation, right, yeah, 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.680 it's like now there's just do you feel the pressure 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:23.000 at all? 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:26.640 Like yeah, Like once, now that we drop problems with Pusher, 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:31.640 I've seen a different response and different people crawling out 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:32.120 of work. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.560 It's like, hey, who is this guy? What is he doing? 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:36.680 And then like I noticed, like when I go live 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.560 in preview music blogs pick it up like immediately by 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.560 the time I'm off live, and I'm like, damn, that's new. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:42.440 Yeah, it's new. 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.800 So people are paying more attention than they were. And 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.320 so now it's like, oh shit, everything I say on 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.480 these records. I wanted to be potent. I wanted to 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.479 be like me. So I'm like, all right, let me 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.839 take some time and actually craftic to where if it 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:58.360 came out or e leaked. 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.080 I wouldn't give it down. I'd be like, this what 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:01.720 it is, and that's what it's gonna be for sure. 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.640 So what is the uh? 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.160 Because obviously, you know TD has got such a dynamic 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:14.320 roster of artists. I feel like you, you know, there 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.520 needs to be like a new fresh face and you're that. 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:18.960 Yeah, I feel like I feel like that's that's what 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:19.520 we're working on. 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:21.560 But I was gonna ask you, like, what is I 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.520 always wonder because I feel like when people sign the 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.520 TD or some of these bigger labels that we kind 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.920 of look at as cruise, the assumption is just everyone's 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.920 like hanging out all the time and friendly and friends 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.040 are you Like, is your relationship with your label? Mats 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.120 is everything? Like you guys hang out, you chop it 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:35.480 up with. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:39.320 So I think there's a dynamic to it, like some people, 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.960 just like normal people in real life, you draw to 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:43.240 more and they draw to you. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:44.600 So it's like if you. 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:45.040 Who do you draw to? 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.880 I rock with everybody, but like close like out outside 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.080 of the studio probably rock, yeah, j rock. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.880 Yeah, you know what I'm saying me rock? Uh mmmm? 0:07:56.120 --> 0:08:02.400 They yeah, everybody, we all like locked in. But I 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.240 feel like those people outside of the outside of the 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.080 studio and be like, oh, it's just a normal conversation. 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:08.880 They'll just pick up the phone and call me and 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.480 we just chop it up about just regular life. 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.120 For people who don't know you have an interaction. 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.360 She's great. Shout to Tampa, Tampa legend. 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.720 Talk to me about your story a bit because for 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.800 people who don't know, they'll they'll listen, they'll hear the 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:27.880 music when your album comes out. But you went through 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.800 a traumatic experience losing your baby mama, which you've wrapped 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:33.199 about in freestyles. 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:36.199 Before before you were signed. Yeah, it's a big part 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:36.760 of your story. 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.640 Kind of share that, you know, if if you don't mind, 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.440 just just because obviously I can only imagine what it'd 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.959 be like losing the mother of your child and then 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.280 being up and coming artists, trying to support the kid, 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.760 trying to be both parents. Like that's a that's a 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:53.800 real that's got to be a struggle man. 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.120 No, it was trash, for sure. It was trash. 0:08:56.160 --> 0:09:00.840 We uh when everything happened, like I I was in Arizona, 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:02.679 you know, like I was, I was, but it happened 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:03.359 in California. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.680 So it was a tough time. There was no like help. 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.719 There was no like county that like, you know, county 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:12.800 situation that can help me place me in a home. 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:14.400 Nothing, And my credit was bad. 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:16.520 I have money in my pocket, but no credit, So 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.240 I was sleeping in the car with my daughter for 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.600 like I want to say, like two months, damn, and 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.600 then like we figured it out. Don't get me wrong, 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:25.840 Like I was sleeping on people couches, but my actual 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:27.400 place where I was like the most. 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.240 Like you didn't have like an actual like this is 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:29.640 my house. 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.480 Yeah, I was in a car for like two months 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.400 and then But you're talking about when it happened or 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:39.080 after it happened, just like obviously she passed away from 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:40.040 having my daughter. 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.599 Right, But I'm saying like when when that happens. 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:43.640 It turned something on. 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:45.640 It was either gonna be like I may either be 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:50.199 a bum like and my daughter gonna not have nothing, 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.400 or I'm gonna do everything I can to make sure 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:53.360 that my daughter got everything. 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:54.400 And I feel like that's. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.760 What clicked me into gear of being like go crazy 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:59.000 because it ain't no other option. 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:02.080 It's like like I can imagine bro sleeping with your 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:02.880 daughter in the car. 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.080 Yeah, and then you on top of that, you like 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.280 the stress of her mom being dead and then the 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.079 stress of you being like I'm really in a. 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:10.840 Car and you got to be strong for her, for 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:11.280 your kid. 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.040 Yeah, for sure, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, when 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:13.840 her mom died. I didn't. 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:18.959 I was so like, it's probably a bad thing, you 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.400 know what I'm saying when I look back now. But 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:22.760 when her mom died, I trying not to cry in 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:24.320 front of her whole family because I didn't want them 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:25.800 to think I was weak to be like, oh, he 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:27.400 ain't gonna be able to take care of So I 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.640 was like trying not to cry as much. But I'm crying. 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:31.679 But I'm just like, you. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.480 Were getting it out through your freestyles though. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:34.960 Yeah, I was getting it out through the freestyles. It 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.280 kind of worked then. Therapy, Yeah, therapy is important. 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:38.560 Yeah. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.440 Do you still go to therapy now or no? It's 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.800 just something you had to get through. Do you think 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.200 anyone's ever actually healed though? Yeah? 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.480 I feel like you. That don't define nobody, Like Yo, 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:50.960 trauma that you live through don't define you. I feel 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:51.200 like you. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.640 Somebody else was in that same predicament as me, and 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.960 they made it out figured out, So I don't. I 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.840 don't try to wither in the misery too long. You're 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:01.600 just all right for show. That's a moment of my life. 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.360 I acted out when it came to like how I 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.679 treated people for like the first two years, but then 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:07.680 after therapy. 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.440 I was cool. Damn, that's crazy, sleeping on couches with 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.120 the with the baby, trying to figure out where to sleep. 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.520 Like if CPS would have found out where we were sleeping, 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:17.240 it would be over. 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:20.320 From where would you where'd you guys park at night? 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.120 Like it would be like I would try to find 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.400 streets that don't have like street lights, right, So it 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.000 just it was more like that we just find the 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:27.840 street then. 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:28.720 And it's all in Phoenix. 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.520 Nah, this is an uh. It was back and forth 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:35.240 so Phoenix. I never actually Phoenix, let me stopped capping. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:39.640 I never slept out there because Arizona Reggie shout out 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.080 to that guy. Yeah, so we I never anytime it 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:43.840 was like go over there. But when I was in Cali, 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:45.320 when I went back to Long Beach, that's. 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.080 Where it was at damn. And so it was like 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.680 those were the nights. That's crazy, man. 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.640 What would be for you? Man? Like if you had 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.760 to kind of give any sort of advice to anybody 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.040 who's going through any sort of like serious grief like that, 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.120 Like I mean obviously you you had no choice to 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:00.960 get through because you had to do. 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:01.720 It for your little girl. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.640 But yeah, for sure, you know, I know when people 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.960 lose people sometimes it feels like the world ends and 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.920 there's no like other other side of the Like you 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:10.520 know what I'm saying, Like, if you lose somebody that 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.200 close to it, really could it really could like derail 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:14.360 your whole life. 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.080 My outlook is different than a lot of people thus 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.760 already been through so much stuff and so many losses. 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:21.400 So I'd be like a lot of the things I 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:25.800 digest properly because I'm a I'm a poet, so I 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:30.160 can write everything out to kind of like cope. I 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.480 look at it like it's a part of the story. 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.959 So everything that happens, I'd be like that was supposed 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:36.320 to happen. It was part of the story. It might 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.640 be fucked up, but it's like that's that's just what 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:39.920 it is in its life. 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:40.640 If you want one. 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.400 For sure, you have a song where you address the situation, 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.120 and it literally made me shed a tear. Yeah, I 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.640 was like, this is the crazy shit I ever heard. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.360 Yeah, No, it's definitely That's what I'm saying. The project, 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.360 I can't wait for people to hear that. Dude, when 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.640 we get into that, I like, but I want people 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.360 to also the reason why we're waiting so long because 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.000 I don't want people to sympathize. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.320 I don't want them to empathize, right, So it's. 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:02.720 Like I want people to be like, Yo, that kid 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:04.360 is crazy, that kid is funny, he's you know what 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.079 I'm saying, he's a dope artist. And then you double 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.280 back and be like, wait, what is his story? Then 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.120 you go check out the story, not hey, did you 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.240 care about to hear about that kid who baby Mama died? 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.760 His music is dope versus you know what I'm saying. 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:17.559 Do you feel like there was a point in time 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.480 where people because you that was a lot of the 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:22.640 you were rapping about, like. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:24.240 Real, like they boxed me into that. 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.160 I feel like initially, yeah, yeah, so I had to 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.040 like scale back because I'm like, that's not me and 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:33.840 right in its entire entirety, Like I'm a person who 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.960 have layers. I'm like, I make music for women, I 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.840 make music for ratchet niggas, and I make music for 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.640 the conscious people who actually. 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:43.480 Think about the stuff that they doing. 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.280 Like yeah, so we got out we had to figure 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.480 out a way to combine all of those and make 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.600 the artist whore I am now and that's where we're at. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.120 I mean, when you drop this push a record, I 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:53.800 was excited because I. 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:57.199 Was like, finally, finally, yea, No, we're about to go crazy? 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.000 Does I mean the album is done? Is the album already? 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.200 The album ever done? Until they come out? That's fair 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:03.880 when album come out? And then because I can make 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:04.360 because how. 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.079 Many songs you actually have, like because you've been working 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.120 NonStop for it feels like five or six years. 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:12.760 Yeah, it's been about five right, like four okay. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:17.960 Right before the pandemic. Yeah, so like I've heard so 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:21.200 many amazing records. How do you pick what's on the album? 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:22.200 What's on the next album? 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.200 Because I'm like one of those people who evolve every 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:25.120 like six months. 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:29.040 But then you also might get demo itis, which artists get. Yeah, 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.080 but I'll leavet some ill shit off the album. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.440 But I think I think that people who like around me, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.840 they don't let that happen because it's you know, it's 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:37.800 not just me, like okay, this album. 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.320 Like right now, if you listen to your album, like 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.880 what's on the like tentative track list, what's the oldest. 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:42.160 Song on there? 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:51.360 M it's a record I got with a big feature. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.360 I can't say, but it's like that's probably the oldest 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:54.840 record on. 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.080 The singer or rapper singer. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:57.840 Hm hmm. 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.200 What's city they wro. I'm not saying none of that. 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:03.000 You try to get that clip. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:07.160 You didn't give me the city huh, state coast coast. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.240 If I say, you're gonna know exactly. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:16.000 If you wait east southwest, north, oh north oh north, 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:27.080 how Norton super super North. Yeah, Canada Yeah, oh ship 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:28.400 feel damn. 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.880 Shout out to to Justin Bieber in the weekend. So 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.160 you got a song with both of them coming? So nice? 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.160 Yeah, both of them. There's a clip new record. 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.680 That'll be like that should be the Canadian national anthem 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.040 if you get both of them on the record. I 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:43.640 don't think they've ever been on a song together. Who 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:45.000 Justin Bieber in the weekend? 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:46.000 Why would they do that? 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:47.400 I don't know. 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.400 They have two totally different. 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.120 They gotta do it for the for the for the country, bro, 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.400 like for just like for the like you know what 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.760 I'm saying. Like, imagine if they did, imagine if they 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.040 did like a real Canada anthem, it'd be the softest 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.240 shit ever. But no, no, I think it would be 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.760 slap do you think I think it was slap. We 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.040 can't fire. You know what I want. I want somebody 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.480 to remake Hall Cogan's theme song, but make it hip hop. 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.760 Why because it'd be hard. I was just you ever 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:15.720 listen to wrestling theme songs while you're driving around? 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:17.280 I do? 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.760 Nah, man, we listening to those? You're not a wrestling fan, obviously, Huh. 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.520 I've watched wrestling. I literally put it on a on 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:25.800 a on a on a verse. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:28.560