Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Betting Pros Podcast. I'm Ryan Warmley,
Speaker 1: joined today by Terrell Furman Junior and by our guest PJ.
Speaker 1: Class Or. It's the Save three folks running it back.
Speaker 1: After last week we talked about the Sweet sixteen and
Speaker 1: the Elite Eight, we are now talking about the Final Four.
Speaker 1: We have this historic Final four, all four one seeds,
Speaker 1: the strongest final four at least according to the metrics
Speaker 1: like Ken Pom, basically that we've ever seen. I know
Speaker 1: that every single round it feels like we're saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get to the madness, let's get to the fun,
Speaker 1: let's get to the real, big epic matchups, and then
Speaker 1: the best teams just keep winning, kind of running away.
Speaker 1: In a lot of cases we had. We had some
Speaker 1: really good games over the weekend, but still kind of
Speaker 1: waiting for that kind of epic feel. I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna get that with this final foward just incredible, incredible games. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we've got Auburn against Florida, We've got Duke against Houston.
Speaker 1: We're gonna break it all down. Trell, how are you
Speaker 1: feeling after the Sweet sixteen and Elite Eight? Where were
Speaker 1: your big takeaways from that weekend.
Speaker 2: I'm still very confident. I have sang the praises of
Speaker 2: Florida and Houston this entire time. Houston has continued not
Speaker 2: to let me down, and I mean the buckling down
Speaker 2: and Calvin Sampson, So when this team felt like that
Speaker 2: it could be over and this could be another moment,
Speaker 2: it wasn't, and he got this team through it. Excellent
Speaker 2: play on the out of bounds play. I mean, they've
Speaker 2: been able to handle business. They were slaughtering Tennessee at
Speaker 2: half like I wasn't even considering anything else there. I'm
Speaker 2: still on the Houston and Florida wave. I'm kno getting
Speaker 2: off this train. Houston Florida in National Championship. I'm ready.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it more, but I'm ready.
Speaker 1: Yeah, PJ. That Houston performance against the Tennessee quite the demolition.
Speaker 1: The game gets predued, like Terrell was mentioning that add
Speaker 1: of bounds play at the end of the game was
Speaker 1: one of the better games that we've had, you know,
Speaker 1: the tournament so far. Once they got passed Gonzaga, who
Speaker 1: I was trying to kind of differentiate and pick them
Speaker 1: in the bracket. Once it got past to Kenzagga, I
Speaker 1: think we all felt pretty strongly about Houston making a
Speaker 1: run to the final four. It after that point, obviously,
Speaker 1: like Florida has had some close ish calls on this run,
Speaker 1: but they still just look really, really good. And you know,
Speaker 1: one of the hottest teams in basketball, Duke the best
Speaker 1: team in the sport, I think lest I would certainly say,
Speaker 1: seems pretty obvious. And then Auburn just just keeps winning
Speaker 1: as the number on overall seeds, so like really exciting.
Speaker 1: What were your big takeaways, PJ.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's obviously been a chalky tournament so far.
Speaker 3: We got all four one seeds in the final four.
Speaker 3: But my takeaway is that it feels like everybody's talking
Speaker 3: about how chalky it is. But outside of Duke, you know,
Speaker 3: all these teams have had their scares, right. Houston was
Speaker 3: challenged by Purduing Gonzagai, like you guys were saying, Florida
Speaker 3: by Yukon and Texas Tech. Auburn needed a big second
Speaker 3: half run against Michigan. You're trailing Creighton at halftime. So yes,
Speaker 3: these are the four best teams. These are gonna be
Speaker 3: two epnic games, but they have had some challenges to
Speaker 3: get here, and certainly Florida. You know that comeback against
Speaker 3: Texas Tech was impressive. But I'm excited for these games. Yeah, guys,
Speaker 3: I mean, Ken Palm started in nineteen ninety six, and
Speaker 3: these four teams are for the top ten highest rated team.
Speaker 2: Wild Oh wow, Me and Kim Palm are the same age,
Speaker 2: me and you both.
Speaker 1: Through so these so these are four of the ten
Speaker 1: best teams in Terrell's lifetime.
Speaker 2: Ninety six was a great year. I'd be shy to
Speaker 2: tell people ninety six was a great year.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean they're four of the top ten
Speaker 3: highest rated teams, and all four of these teams are
Speaker 3: top ten in offense and top ten in defense. So
Speaker 3: it's just it's it's gonna be epic And hopefully these
Speaker 3: two games live up to the hype, and I think
Speaker 3: that they will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, really, these three games, if you include
Speaker 1: the title game, you know, after we get the winner,
Speaker 1: like it's hard to imagine. The only world in which
Speaker 1: I think we get duds, truthfully, is Duke just being
Speaker 1: a step ahead of everybody else in almost like the
Speaker 1: last couple of years of Yukon, where we keep waiting
Speaker 1: for them to stub their toe at some point and
Speaker 1: face a challenge, and it just never happens. You'd get
Speaker 1: the end of the tournament. It's like, well, Duke was
Speaker 1: just the best team by a mile the whole way.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I think that will happen, but that's
Speaker 1: the only world in which I don't think we're getting
Speaker 1: three epic games here. So we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 1: I did notice that when you're talking about Florida facing
Speaker 1: some you know, difficulties, you mentioned Yukon and Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: You didn't mention the first half against Maryland, which was
Speaker 1: a very close game. I will point out as well,
Speaker 1: we could ignore the second.
Speaker 2: Half of Maryland first half cash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that was That was an interesting one to watch,
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Speaker 1: on FanDuel today, guys. Let's start with the left side
Speaker 1: of the remaining bracket. It's number one Auburn. It's number
Speaker 1: one Florida. It's the one versus four if you look
Speaker 1: at the overall kind of s curve seating lines, but
Speaker 1: they're the two number one. Obviously, we have seen this
Speaker 1: matchup before, given what we saw in the SEC this year. PJ,
Speaker 1: as an SEC connoisseur, as a fan of Alabama, I
Speaker 1: will start with you here. When you start thinking about
Speaker 1: Auburn and Florida, what's the first thing that comes to mind?
Speaker 1: Is it that you really like aside on the total.
Speaker 1: Is it that you really like laying the points or
Speaker 1: taking the points? Is it that you expect this to
Speaker 1: play out similarly to the matchups we saw in the
Speaker 1: SEC this season. What's the first thing when you think
Speaker 1: of these two teams going against each other that you
Speaker 1: think about?
Speaker 3: My thought is that if this game is close late,
Speaker 3: I trust Florida because Florida has Walter Clayton Junior and
Speaker 3: Auburn doesn't.
Speaker 4: That's that's my thought.
Speaker 3: The way that I'm betting this game, though, you guys
Speaker 3: is I think you bet it live. These two teams
Speaker 3: have showed throughout the regular season, they've showed throughout the
Speaker 3: tournament two that they can go on runs at any
Speaker 3: given point in the game. You know, they could have
Speaker 3: a sluggish first half, they could be trailing in the
Speaker 3: second half, and then they just go on these eighteen
Speaker 3: to four. We saw Auburn go on to seventeen to
Speaker 3: nothing run against Michigan, and that's what I want to
Speaker 3: bet into. You know, Florida two and a half, I
Speaker 3: think that's a little too high. I feel like, honestly,
Speaker 3: it should be closer to a pick them. But the
Speaker 3: perception around these two teams right now, and with Florida
Speaker 3: having Clayton and all the big shots that he's hit,
Speaker 3: I see why they're two and a half point favorite.
Speaker 3: But I'm just I think one of these teams at
Speaker 3: some point in the game is going to be up
Speaker 3: by double digits, and when that happens, I want to
Speaker 3: bet the other side because I think it's going to
Speaker 3: be close and it's going.
Speaker 4: To come down to the wire.
Speaker 3: It is interesting, you know, when they played on February eighth,
Speaker 3: Auburn was a nine and a half point favorite. Elijah
Speaker 3: Martin didn't play in the game. Now eleven point favorite
Speaker 3: was that high? I thought it was like nine and
Speaker 3: a half te point.
Speaker 2: Oh, I wouldn't know. I didn't bet Florida.
Speaker 3: So eleven point favorite. Now they're two and a half
Speaker 3: point favorite against Auburn.
Speaker 4: I mean, we were talking.
Speaker 3: About Auburn is the team to beat in the tournament
Speaker 3: like three weeks ago, a month ago, and now they
Speaker 3: have the largest odds to win it all at plus
Speaker 3: five twenty five or whatever it may be. So I
Speaker 3: think there's value on Alburn. But Clayton just terrifies me
Speaker 3: because if the game's close, like, that's the guy that
Speaker 3: you want with the ball in his hands.
Speaker 4: So I think it's a great game to bet live.
Speaker 3: You know, whenever we get these games with a short
Speaker 3: spread and a high total, you expect there to be
Speaker 3: a lot of points. You expect there to be a
Speaker 3: lot of lead changes, both teams to kind of go
Speaker 3: on their runs. So that's that's how I'm gonna bet it.
Speaker 3: Just wait for one of these teams to go up
Speaker 3: double digits and then I'll bet the other side. If
Speaker 3: you had to maybe pick the game, though, I'd probably
Speaker 3: go with Florida, man, just because I think it's going
Speaker 3: to be close, and I just trust Walter Clayton Junior
Speaker 3: to find a way to win the Gators the game.
Speaker 1: Terrell, you've talked already on this episode about how you
Speaker 1: know you see this as in Florida Houston, and how
Speaker 1: you've been vettanam Florida.
Speaker 2: I was supposed to say that to the end.
Speaker 1: Well, I just bring that up to say, so it's
Speaker 1: clear where you're going with the game. What do you
Speaker 1: think about from the betting angle? Do you have thoughts
Speaker 1: on the total? Just looking at the spread, it sounds
Speaker 1: like you would like Florida, But did you have any
Speaker 1: betting specific angles to this one?
Speaker 2: With the conference games, I like backing the undering conference
Speaker 2: games in the tournament. I think that familiarity that you
Speaker 2: have with the team and the time that you have
Speaker 2: to prepare. You're also putting this in San Antonio, in
Speaker 2: that filthy, stinking dome that they're playing in, and you know,
Speaker 2: it's all weird and the death perception of being on
Speaker 2: the court with all the fans and all that. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I can see myself and taught myself into an under here.
Speaker 2: Am I gonna do it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Probably not. I'm probably just gonna put anything that I
Speaker 2: thought that I was gonna put on the under all
Speaker 2: on Florida, because, I mean, the issue with Walter Clayton
Speaker 2: Junior is something that we like in the military, and
Speaker 2: we call it a nuclear deterrent because everybody knows I
Speaker 2: have Walton Clayton Junior in my hip pocket just ready
Speaker 2: to use them, and everybody is sitting there like, all right,
Speaker 2: let's not antagonize them so that we don't pull out
Speaker 2: Walter Clayton Junior. Let's do everything we can to make
Speaker 2: sure Walton Clayton Junior does not get out into this game.
Speaker 2: And unfortunately, what that's gonna do is that's gonna actually
Speaker 2: play in a Florida's actual game plan, which is playing
Speaker 2: through the Bigs. Condon had a big game that last
Speaker 2: time around when they went on the road, on the
Speaker 2: road to the place where everybody was terrified to play
Speaker 2: basketball this year in the jungle, and got to win
Speaker 2: by double digits as an eleven point dog. Like, I
Speaker 2: think that the Bigs are gonna have something to say, Condon,
Speaker 2: shemy Lou. I think that they are gonna be really
Speaker 2: really big for them in this game, and at the
Speaker 2: end of the game, we may not be talking about
Speaker 2: Wart Clayton Junior, but we're gonna be talking about those
Speaker 2: bigs and how those bigs really really aided them and
Speaker 2: helped them get this win.
Speaker 1: Do you guys think, like, just in looking at these
Speaker 1: two matchups, setting aside who you think is gonna win,
Speaker 1: are you more excited about Auburn Florida or about Duke Houston?
Speaker 1: Is there like one of these matchups that you like
Speaker 1: are really jazzed I mean they're both great, obviously, but
Speaker 1: is there one PG that you are like more jazzed
Speaker 1: up for?
Speaker 3: Oh, Duke Houston, Because I think the winner of that
Speaker 3: game wins the national Championship, and I just want to
Speaker 3: see I want to see how Duke looks against that
Speaker 3: Houston defense, right. I also want to see how Houston's
Speaker 3: offense looks against that Duke defense, because we think it
Speaker 3: do Duke and obviously they're star freshmen and how good
Speaker 3: those guys are offensively. But I think it was an
Speaker 3: eye opener to all of us to watch how they
Speaker 3: limited Alabama's offense to only sixty five points, So you
Speaker 3: know that that'll be the big topic of discussion, right,
Speaker 3: how does Duke's offense look against Houston's defense, because both
Speaker 3: of those units are so great. But I want to
Speaker 3: see how Houston's offense looks against Duke's defense because Houston's
Speaker 3: one of the best three point shooting teams in the country.
Speaker 3: And Duke just did a great job against Alabama limiting
Speaker 3: them eight for thirty from downtown. So to me, that'll, uh,
Speaker 3: that's the game. I can't wait to watch him. I'm
Speaker 3: looking forward to seeing that matchup on that side. And
Speaker 3: also keep in mind, you know, Duke had this stigma
Speaker 3: around like these John Shire teams. They were kind of soft, right,
Speaker 3: Like if you if they went up against a team
Speaker 3: that could like punch him in the mouth, that was
Speaker 3: kind of the way to beat them.
Speaker 4: We don't talk.
Speaker 3: About that Duke team this way, and we're we're gonna
Speaker 3: we're gonna find out real quick about their toughness Houston.
Speaker 4: So that's the game I'm looking more forward to.
Speaker 1: Terrell. Do you feel similarly about being more interested in
Speaker 1: Duke Houston?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I always can. You know, I always love
Speaker 2: to see the Duke Ky's fall flat on their face,
Speaker 2: So I'm perfectly good with that. I think, really honestly,
Speaker 2: you could probably scrap the first thirty five minutes of
Speaker 2: both games for me and give me the last five
Speaker 2: minutes of both games because I get to either watch
Speaker 2: Walt Clayton junior go off in the last five minutes
Speaker 2: of the game and a great game there, or I
Speaker 2: get to see what Duke looks like and yet another
Speaker 2: close game. Duke has not been good in close games
Speaker 2: this year. Well, how did Clemson beat them? I keep
Speaker 2: going back to the Clemson game because that's how I
Speaker 2: forecasted the way for you to beat Duke. You make
Speaker 2: it an ugly game, You muck it up, you play
Speaker 2: defense that matches their defense, and you give yourself a
Speaker 2: chance with the possession in the last couple of minutes
Speaker 2: of the game, and you force them into putting the
Speaker 2: ball into their freshman star players' hands and hope for
Speaker 2: a turnover. Clemson was able to get the turnover and
Speaker 2: they were able to steal their win. I think that's
Speaker 2: how Houston does it. Here again, we're gonna put that
Speaker 2: pressure on Cooper flag and yes, he is a great player,
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, he's still young.
Speaker 2: He's still a freshman and this is the grandest stage
Speaker 2: of them all, and Kevin Sampson and this team is
Speaker 2: overly due to make it past this stage here. So
Speaker 2: I think that that's what I'm really really looking forward
Speaker 2: to the last couple of minutes of the game, because
Speaker 2: I really want to see if you get Duke into
Speaker 2: a close game, how are they able to respond? Do
Speaker 2: they have that pedigree to take it to the next
Speaker 2: step and win a close game? Because anybody, well not anybody,
Speaker 2: but they've shown that they can beat teams by twenty plus,
Speaker 2: But can you beat a team if they bring you
Speaker 2: into a tie game with thirty seconds to go?
Speaker 1: What do you think about that angle? Pg? I mean
Speaker 1: Terrell is right in games where Cooper flag is healthy,
Speaker 1: we have not seen this Duke team in a close
Speaker 1: game in almost two.
Speaker 3: Months exactly, which is why you know I've been saying
Speaker 3: on my show all week, if you like Duke, I
Speaker 3: just bet him five and a half. If you like Houston,
Speaker 3: I just bet him on the money line. For everything
Speaker 3: that Terrell was saying, if it's a close game, I
Speaker 3: would trust Houston more in that scenario because that's how
Speaker 3: Houston plays. You know, they play at the fourth slowest
Speaker 3: pace in the country. Their defense is so great, they
Speaker 3: wont a half court game. They want to execute in
Speaker 3: the final minutes. They want to lean on their toughness
Speaker 3: and how well coached they are, and all those sorts
Speaker 3: of things. Duke, I mean, this is what we would
Speaker 3: see out of all those great and Zaga teams that
Speaker 3: Mark Few had, right, they would go to two and
Speaker 3: a half months not playing anybody. You get him in
Speaker 3: a tight game in the tournament and then they fold
Speaker 3: and that's how they lose. So I agree with Terrell
Speaker 3: and yeah, I think if you like Houston, look, obviously
Speaker 3: five and a half, that's a good amount of points
Speaker 3: where you can bet that. I think if you like them, though,
Speaker 3: you just take him out right. I think if they cover,
Speaker 3: they win the game. And if Duke wins, I think
Speaker 3: they cover this group.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just looking at the d want experience free troster,
Speaker 1: Houston averaged over two and a half years of experience
Speaker 1: is pretty high. It's top forty in the country. Duke
Speaker 1: is a little under two years. That's one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty eighth in the country. So you know, definitely a
Speaker 1: gap there. Do you guys see a coaching mismatch in
Speaker 1: either of these because in both of these matchups it's
Speaker 1: a veteran coach who has been around for a long time,
Speaker 1: you know, Calvin Sampson on one end, Bruce Pearl on
Speaker 1: the other end, going up against kind of a young
Speaker 1: gun in their first final four you know, John Shire
Speaker 1: obviously played there as a player, and Todd Golden on
Speaker 1: the other side. So in either of these matchups, do
Speaker 1: you guys give a coaching edge to either side?
Speaker 2: Terrell, Well, I say Florida because I always just kind
Speaker 2: of expect Bruce Pearl just kind of crapped a bit
Speaker 2: at some point and it's kind of over there, So
Speaker 2: I'll give it to Florida there. But that I think
Speaker 2: Shire is really good. And I think that's the part
Speaker 2: that makes me very very concerned about the Dookies making
Speaker 2: a run and potentially winning a national championship is because
Speaker 2: Shire is really really good coach. He has the buy
Speaker 2: in of the team, the buying of the program, and
Speaker 2: that's what happens when you go get your guy, Like
Speaker 2: when you have your guy, you know who the successor
Speaker 2: is you've been playing in this moment like they were
Speaker 2: able to do that, and he's getting his flowers now
Speaker 2: in this first final four, so I'm still going to
Speaker 2: rock with Sampson, but I think it's clearly it might
Speaker 2: be a little bit of a bigger edge because again,
Speaker 2: I just expect Bruce Pearl at some point crap a.
Speaker 1: Bit, PJ. What do you think about that? Do you
Speaker 1: see a coaching mismatch in either of these games?
Speaker 4: Not really, I agree with with Terrell.
Speaker 3: I think Calvin Sampson is the best coach that's left,
Speaker 3: and I think he's better than Shire, but I think
Speaker 3: Shire is really good, So I don't really see that
Speaker 3: as like a big coaching mismatch or anything like that.
Speaker 3: And then in the other game, like you just have
Speaker 3: a great storyline. When Bruce Pearl first got the job
Speaker 3: with Auburn in twenty fourteen, he hired Todd Golden from
Speaker 3: Columbia to be his first director of basketball operations, so
Speaker 3: they know each.
Speaker 4: Other extremely well.
Speaker 3: He really helped him get his jump start, and then
Speaker 3: Golden went to San Francisco and then obviously went to
Speaker 3: Florida after that. So I think all four coaches that
Speaker 3: are left are really really good. They're all looking for
Speaker 3: their first national title. But the familiarity there with Pearl
Speaker 3: and Golden, I think is interesting. I don't really see
Speaker 3: a mismatch though, in any of these games.
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Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcast. Guys, let's say our just
Speaker 1: a couple other betting angles before we get out of here.
Speaker 1: Obviously a little bit of a shorter episode because there's
Speaker 1: not that many games to hit on. Are there other
Speaker 1: betting angles, PJ that you're interested in? You talked about
Speaker 1: Walter Clayton, maybe him as like most outstanding player in
Speaker 1: the tournament? Obviously Cooper Flagg, I mean jan I Breuom
Speaker 1: if Favor makes the title game. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: really good players, you know clearly that are still playing
Speaker 1: and that's why these teams are here. But do you
Speaker 1: have any thoughts on that or any other angles on
Speaker 1: this one besides who wins the games?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Most outstanding player really no thoughts for me, you know,
Speaker 3: I think if Florida wins it, it's probably gonna be Clayton.
Speaker 3: I think if Duke wins it, it probably will be Flag.
Speaker 3: I think Procter and Canipple are both intriguing as well.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: If you like Auburn, I would actually go with Pettiford
Speaker 3: rather than Broom. I think, you know, Pettiford's the guy
Speaker 3: who's probably gonna take and make a lot of the
Speaker 3: big shots for Auburn if they end up advancing Houston.
Speaker 3: You would probably think Crier would be the same. But
Speaker 3: we certainly saw Sharp hit a bunch of big shots
Speaker 3: on that second half against Tennessee. So I mean, look,
Speaker 3: this is why all these teams are here. They're all
Speaker 3: so good. They got multiple options. I think the best
Speaker 3: I feel about those. If you like Auburn, you go
Speaker 3: with Pettiford over Broom. I mean, you're getting a way
Speaker 3: better price, and we know, you know you win with
Speaker 3: guard play in March, and he's gonna be the guy
Speaker 3: for Auburn if they win the whole thing. He's probably
Speaker 3: gonna hit a bunch of big shots. There are a
Speaker 3: couple player props that I like in the Duke Houston
Speaker 3: game that both kind of correlate with one another. And
Speaker 3: the way that Houston plays defense. Anybody who watches him play,
Speaker 3: you know that anytime the ball goes in the post,
Speaker 3: they always double, and they're so good at it. It
Speaker 3: comes so quick, they rotate, They're just they're really good
Speaker 3: at what they do. But because of that, obviously Duke
Speaker 3: has opportunities that when Houston sends a double to kick
Speaker 3: it out to shooters, Procter over twelve and a half
Speaker 3: points I think is a good luck. He's been shooting
Speaker 3: the ball ridiculous in the tournament so far. I think
Speaker 3: twelve and a half's a little too low. He's going
Speaker 3: over that in three or four games so far. And
Speaker 3: then come on, Mala, watch the big man. One assist
Speaker 3: out of him over a half is plus one fifteen.
Speaker 3: He had one against Bama. He didn't have any in
Speaker 3: his two previous games before that. But again, the double
Speaker 3: team comes on him, he's gonna have to kick it out.
Speaker 3: I think gets an offensive rebound, he's probably gonna kick
Speaker 3: it out. So the fact that we only need one
Speaker 3: and it's plus money, those were two props I think.
Speaker 3: Off of Houston's defense and the way that they trap
Speaker 3: in double team I think two guys, two props to
Speaker 3: keep an eye on Troe.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that or any other player
Speaker 1: props that you're looking at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going for the big fish. I'm got the
Speaker 2: worm on the real throwing it out there, and I'm
Speaker 2: going for the big one. Give me the under or flag,
Speaker 2: give me the under. If flag goes over, gonna be
Speaker 2: a long day for Houston. I'm all the way in
Speaker 2: my Houston handicap. They make this an ugly, ugly game.
Speaker 2: He probably probably still gets up a lot of attempts.
Speaker 2: Maybe he goes out there and he goes some five
Speaker 2: for fourteen something like that, like keep him off the line.
Speaker 2: Like PJ was saying in the post, he's not gonna
Speaker 2: get much. Look in the post, he's gonna have to
Speaker 2: try to create something for himself. And they got really
Speaker 2: really good individual defenders, and I think they're going to
Speaker 2: force the ball out of his hands a lot, force
Speaker 2: him into a bunch of turnovers. If I had a
Speaker 2: turnover prop, I would probably take up turnover prop. I
Speaker 2: like flag to go under. I think that he may
Speaker 2: have a good game, but getting up to nineteen and
Speaker 2: a half, close to twenty points here against Houston, and
Speaker 2: where I think points are going to be at a
Speaker 2: premium and it's going to be around fifty points to
Speaker 2: the winner. Yeah, no, I'm good.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. We'll make our official picks.
Speaker 1: You have already said, Terrell that you are going with
Speaker 1: Florida and Houston. Who do you like in that matchup
Speaker 1: to win it all? Florida? He said, And by the way,
Speaker 1: I will just mention in looking at the futures right now,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing Auburn plus five point fifty, Houston plus four hundred,
Speaker 1: Florida plus three hundred and Duke even Obviously, depending where
Speaker 1: you look, you might see something a little bit different,
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm seeing right now. So with that
Speaker 1: in mind, Trell, what are you going with?
Speaker 2: Sampson gets it, man, Sampson's due, he gets it. I'm
Speaker 2: going with Houston. Houston wins the National Championship. I think
Speaker 2: Houston gets it done. Houston first half still really really
Speaker 2: good player. We're getting plus money this time around, taking
Speaker 2: it here again too. So I'm on Houston. I think
Speaker 2: Houston is gonna win the Natty PJ.
Speaker 1: Who are you picking? I know you said you kind
Speaker 1: of view Duke Houston almost as the championship game. You're
Speaker 1: gonna pick that winner regardless of who they face. Who
Speaker 1: do you think will win that game? And who do
Speaker 1: you think they'll be facing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's going to be Duke and Florida,
Speaker 3: and I think Duke cuts down the net side. They
Speaker 3: were my pick from the beginning of the tournament. They've
Speaker 3: looked like the best team up to this point. I
Speaker 3: went to the Elite eight game against Alabama, you guys,
Speaker 3: and watching them in person just it blew me away.
Speaker 3: I went to see Bama against Yukon in the Final
Speaker 3: four last year. You've seen you con in person really
Speaker 3: changed my perception, and I knew I would bet them
Speaker 3: against Purdue just how good they were.
Speaker 4: Dou had the same effect. It's just that team.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Their defense doesn't get talked enough how good they are
Speaker 3: on that side of the ball. So ultimately, all the
Speaker 3: firepower they have on offense, but their defense is just
Speaker 3: as good, and they're the best team.
Speaker 2: I think they went a long or and we might
Speaker 2: have got some in person bias here this is he said,
Speaker 2: he went and saw the game in person, and now
Speaker 2: he's back. He might be some in person bias of
Speaker 2: watching a great team in person, because I remember last
Speaker 2: NFL season, I went to that Commanders in that Steelers game,
Speaker 2: and it was possibly one of the greatest games all year,
Speaker 2: and then those Steelers immediately looked horrible every single game afterwards.
Speaker 1: I had the same thing. I was on like the
Speaker 1: student radio station when I was at Maryland, which was
Speaker 1: their last year. I was a senior there last year
Speaker 1: in the ACC and we went down to Cameron in
Speaker 1: door and I called a Maryland Duke game and I
Speaker 1: saw Jabari Parker in person, and I didn't like hate
Speaker 1: him before then, but I was like, I might be
Speaker 1: a little overrated, Like I don't totally get it. Then
Speaker 1: I watched him in person, and I can't wait, thinking
Speaker 1: that dude's the number one pick in the draft. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be the best player at the NBA in two years.
Speaker 1: That wasn't his fault, but yeah, I know, but like
Speaker 1: I get it, like the in person, it can it
Speaker 1: could totally sway you sometimes so quickly PG before I
Speaker 1: wrap up, do you see any value in like some
Speaker 1: of these other because these are four really good teams,
Speaker 1: So do you see value in Houston at plus four
Speaker 1: hundred Auburn up plus five fifty even or do you
Speaker 1: think even at even odds, like it's it's just gonna
Speaker 1: be Duke.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there definitely is value, Like if you
Speaker 3: like one of those teams, I would bet any of
Speaker 3: them because again, like I don't think anybody other than
Speaker 3: Duke is gonna win it. Houston would be the only
Speaker 3: other team that interests me. But yeah, I think because
Speaker 3: Duke has looked so dominant up to this point, and
Speaker 3: you have three great teams, Like sometimes we get to
Speaker 3: the final four and there's like a team that's like
Speaker 3: like NC State wasn't gonna win it last year. You know,
Speaker 3: you see teams going magical final four runs. But then
Speaker 3: once you get to the final four, it's a different animal.
Speaker 3: Like getting to the Final four and winning a national
Speaker 3: championship are two different things. All these teams can win it.
Speaker 3: So that's what makes this final four so great, which
Speaker 3: is why I could absolutely see anybody betting any of
Speaker 3: these four teams. I just personally wouldn't just because I
Speaker 3: just think Duke's that much better than these teams.
Speaker 4: I think I just think they win.
Speaker 1: Trell. I'm guessing you would bet Houston plus four hundred or.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would. I mean I'm sitting on a
Speaker 2: Houston future. I would double down too, because I think
Speaker 2: the Purdue game showed me what I needed to see
Speaker 2: and that at the end of the game, it's a
Speaker 2: close game. I want Samson in this Houston team. Like,
Speaker 2: if you tell me, I'm projecting every game to be
Speaker 2: a close game. I think they're the best close game
Speaker 2: team left in the tournament and left in the field.
Speaker 2: And if you're telling me, I got one possession of
Speaker 2: win in all four of these teams, and the Martians
Speaker 2: have the death beam down on the earth, you gotta
Speaker 2: win this game, I'm thinking Houston.
Speaker 1: All right, PJ, What do you got going on at
Speaker 1: bet QL the rest of the week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got my show, send it in one to
Speaker 3: one thirty pm Eastern time, Mondays through Fridays. We're obviously
Speaker 3: talking Final four. Baseball's back in full swing and got
Speaker 3: the Masters coming up next week too, So, uh, why
Speaker 3: talk about what a weekend in San Antonio? You get
Speaker 3: the Final Four and then they got a PGA Tour
Speaker 3: event out there as well, so we're breaking down the
Speaker 3: Valero Texas Open as well.
Speaker 2: You can ask Charles Barkley what he think about San Antonio.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we all know what Charles thinks. I'm san anton.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming on. PJA. You bring a ton
Speaker 1: of March Madness expertise. Savery Year. We love having you.
Speaker 1: Everybody should check out his show too, Like you said,
Speaker 1: send it in with beck ql where he's breaking down
Speaker 1: not only March Madness, but everything else going on. PJ,
Speaker 1: my friend, thank you so much for coming on our friend.
Speaker 1: I'll say I know I got called out for that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just really crazy. That's the second time
Speaker 2: he did that. Like day, PJ and I kn't be
Speaker 2: friends too, PJ our friend. He's yeah, only one friend,
Speaker 2: and that's cool. I'm just a I'm a friend apparently
Speaker 2: all right.
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