1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome back to Move the Sticks, DJ, 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Bucky with you, Buck? What's going on man? 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: How you doing another? Man? It's a great day. We 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: love this part of it because now we're in the 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 2: hustle of a normal football week in the regular season, 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: and now that we're like four weeks in, you kind 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: of got your your rhythm back. You kind of know 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 2: how your Mondays and Tuesdays and Wednesdays operate. And even 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 2: though we're not in the league, there were things that 11 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: we would be doing if we were on the road 12 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: of scouts. Were you kind of fitting that part in? 13 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: And so now I'm comfortable, I'm comfortably in the season, 14 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: kind of got my little routine. I'm ready to go. 15 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I just started getting into my rhythm. 16 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: And then the charters have a bye week this week, 17 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: so that's what kind of that's weird, changes up a 18 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: little bit on you. But I'll be up there Sunday night. 19 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: I think I don't know who that's with. I don't 20 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: know if that's with Rosa. 21 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, game day Live they got. 22 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: You that, thankfully, not Game Day Live during the day. 23 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: Rett's holding that down for everybody that we used to 24 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: have to be on that. But it's the final so 25 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: it's the after the Niner Cowboy game little highlight d 26 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: l oh thing. 27 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: Oh that's cool, JD. We do sometimes. 28 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I'm always having a fill in 29 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: for MJD taking time off. I feel like that's my 30 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm the PBu for MJD. Is what I am. I'm 31 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: the primary backup there. 32 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: MJD is certainly enjoying is Ramilly ties and connections and 33 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: not host no kidding. 34 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: Speaking of that game, by the way, we're going to 35 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: get into that today, we'll preview Cowboys Niners. We're gonna 36 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: look at these rookie impact scores in just a second, 37 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: and then maybe some teams we think could be uh 38 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: could be ready to break out buck and maybe some 39 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: teams we're concerned about. But I say we start things 40 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: off as we do each and every week on the 41 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: on the pod, looking at these rookie impact scores. So 42 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: this is again our buddy Jack Andreid putting this together 43 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: for us on the research side, where you look at 44 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: the most impactful rookies, which combines playtime obviously getting out 45 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: there is a big part of it and production, so 46 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: if you look at it individually. For week four, shouldn't 47 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: be a surprised. Pooka Nakoua at the top of the list. 48 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: Eight Chan is second running back from Miami Witherspoon. Surprisingly third. 49 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: I thought he would be at the top for the 50 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: week that he had, but he's still there at number three. 51 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Michael Wilson, we should probably talk about him a little 52 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: bit as fourth. Anthony Richson Stroud follow up with the 53 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: next couple spots, But Michael Wilson is an interesting one 54 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: because someone who you know had had injuries, battled injuries 55 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: there at Stanford, looked great at the Senior Bowl, Big 56 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: Fast Physical, tested well and did some work with our 57 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: buddy t J. Huschman Zada. In the run up to 58 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: the draft, he was with Puka training with him, and 59 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: both those guys are off to a great start. But 60 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: just is there anything we can learn on a guy 61 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: like Michael Wilson, who you know. The tape was fun, 62 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: but it was just limited. 63 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: So it's funny because Michael Wilson, for me, is a 64 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: personal story because he was at Shamana High School in 65 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: LA when I was coaching the Notre Dame and showman erks, 66 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: and so he was wanted to rote. And so watching him 67 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: grow up as a receiver, he was all always big 68 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: and physical and kind of was a man amongst boys 69 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: playing against you know, guys his age. But then to 70 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: watch him kind of grow and even though he goes 71 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: to Stanford and has success, he still didn't have kind 72 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: of like that dominant career that you would think, oh, 73 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: would translate into immediate success. But dj he goes into 74 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: the National Football League, he finds his way. And we're 75 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: talking about this more. A lot of it is to fit. 76 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: A lot of it is being able to take someone 77 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: and project him accurately from the system and role that 78 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: he played in college and put him in the same 79 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: role in the pros. And we talk about this sometimes 80 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: in the pros when we're talking about evaluation about a 81 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: fit and scheme in those things. But I'm beginning to 82 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: think it's beyond that. I'm beginning to think, can we 83 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: take a guy that was a number two in college 84 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: and put him in a number two role in the 85 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: pros because that is a more accurate assessment of what 86 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: he will be. Maybe the mistakes are when we take 87 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: someone who was a number two in college to say, hey, 88 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: he's going to be a number one or vice versa. 89 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: But he perfectly fits exactly what the Cardinals want to do. 90 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: And after watching him and Pookin Chewa have success, I 91 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: may be more in on what you've talked about the 92 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: last couple of years. I may be more in on 93 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: the GPS stuff less about the stop watch because the 94 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: play speed that is derived on the GPS allows you 95 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: to be like, no, his place speaed is fine whatever 96 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: time to the combine. He plays much faster than that, 97 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 2: and I think we're beginning to see that. And the 98 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: Rams have talked about that with Pooka. I'm sure the 99 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: Cardins would say the same thing about Michael Wilson. 100 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: So we've talked about the four fives as the magic 101 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: number for these whiteouts. Pook and the Cool ran four 102 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: five six of his pro day. Michael Wilson ran four 103 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: five eight at the combine. So again it's being explosive 104 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: but still being able to gear down getting it out 105 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: of breaks. And I go back and look at my 106 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: notes on him, stop start quickness for a big guy 107 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: is one of the things that jumped out. He had 108 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: a big time wild touchdown versus Coldgate. Rec see him 109 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: contort himself. I said, he was really sudden, so maybe 110 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: the top speed you could question, but he gets up 111 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: to speed quickly. Seventy eight yard touchdown against Washington was 112 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: big time, excellent. Senior Bowl missed time with injuries. Buck 113 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: the interesting one to navigate around. You'd get a twelve 114 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: point five percent drop rate, which is very high. Some 115 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: of that I think was because of the limited opportunities. 116 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: So you don't have as many, you know, as many 117 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: targets you don't, you know, that makes it. If you 118 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: have a couple, they could be pretty costly. But I 119 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: think that we need to start. We need to start 120 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: and maybe incorporating more of the all star stuff with 121 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: wide outs a little more than we have in the past. 122 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: Thing about Cooper Cup when he was at the Senior Bowl, 123 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: nobody could cover him. You remember Tank Dell this year 124 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. Nobody could cover him in the 125 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: week of practice. You saw his day flowers and I 126 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: was like, you know, I wasn't even fairer watching him 127 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: at the East West when you go back through that tape, 128 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: But that there's something to that. Michael Wilson putk in 129 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: a cool where the two stars of the Senior Bowl 130 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: practice week at Whiteout and Tank Dell would be the third. 131 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: And they've all done great. 132 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: They all have done great, and you're beginning to look 133 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: at those guys, And we talked about it, and the 134 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: funny thing ron Wolf and the guys who worked up 135 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: under him, they would always talk about the All Star 136 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: games can never hurt you. They can only help you 137 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: because you have an opportunity to see guys out of 138 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: their familiar system. But they're playing against best on best, 139 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: and if you can dominate in those areas, there's a 140 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: good chance you're going to dominate in the league. And 141 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: so the flashes that we see at All Star Games, 142 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: we need to believe them because we're seeing more of 143 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: the guys that played really well in these All Star 144 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: Games also flourishing and thriving when they get to the 145 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: National Football League. It doesn't mean that you dismiss it 146 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: or ignore what they did throughout their college years. But 147 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: when you have an opportunity to see best on best, 148 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: the guys that show up and play well, you have 149 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: to kind of put like a little gold star buying 150 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: because it more than likely means that they're going to 151 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 2: continue to have success at that level. I am just 152 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: really impressed with how so many of these young guys 153 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: are being able to come in and make their mark 154 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: right away. You talk about the tang Dells of the world. 155 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: Michael Wilson and put more impressed now than I've ever 156 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 2: been when it comes to I said, maybe the readiness 157 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: and the preparedness of being able to play and contribute. 158 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: Before we would talk about well maybe by the end 159 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: of the year. These guys are coming right out the gate, 160 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: right out the gate, doing and to me, the surprise 161 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: is they're not just the first rounders that are doing it. 162 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: It's the later round guys that are having success. That's 163 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: where we really have to dig down deep and kind 164 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: of figure out what is the common denominator between the 165 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: later round guys who are having success right away. 166 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we've kind of stumbled upon it. You know, 167 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: it's those guys running in the mid four fives. They 168 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: have size, they have instincts, they can stop and start, 169 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, and some. 170 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: Of that too. 171 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: And they both played with quarterbacks that had ability. But 172 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: you're going to have situations for some of these players 173 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: where it's not only you know, can the Senior Bowl 174 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: be valuable because you get to see them go up 175 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: against top corners, but you can see him play, you know, 176 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: with quarterback, can get them the ball, with an offensive 177 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: line that's buying them time and one on ones there's 178 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: no pass rush, so that, you know, just eliminates some 179 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: of the variables and then you can focus in on 180 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: can this guy run routes? Can he drop his weight? 181 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: Can he get in and out? Can he separate? I 182 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: think you can learn a lot at the All Star 183 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: Games at those positions. So something to keep an eye 184 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: on as we move forward. Let's look at the top 185 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: classes from last week. They would be the Texans, they 186 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: got the most impact from the Rookies, Seahawks, Rams, Colts, Cardinals. 187 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: Those would be the five you look down there at 188 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: the names Buck. We've talked a bunch about the Texans 189 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: every week with Stroud, Henry Tote the linebacker again, fifty 190 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: eight snaps from him, Tank Dell being out there, a bunch, 191 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, Sharpen and Derek Hall. We've mentioned them, the Rams. 192 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: I feel like we've talked about them each and every week. 193 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: How about some of these other guys with the Colts, though, 194 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: when you look at that Anthony Richson. You know, we 195 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: talked about him and the production he's had running the 196 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: ball as well as giving you some pop in the 197 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: passing game. But Juju Brents eighty five snaps, he had 198 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: nine tackles, and then your Tarhel Josh downs out there 199 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: for forty seven snaps, only thirty four receiving yards. But 200 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: he's getting out there getting some run. 201 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: I would say this. The Coats are an example of 202 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: we talked about it. I think we talked about it 203 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: like early in the season about the prototypes and how 204 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: they're just gone all in on the freaks at the position, 205 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: and how they kind of changing the game in terms of, hey, 206 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: you give me the physical tools, we'll coach them up 207 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: and get them ready. That runs counter to what coaches 208 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: typically like to do when it comes to the draft. 209 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: You know, coaches always want the ready made guy can 210 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: plug and play. Have him. I don't want to spend 211 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: a whole lot of time teaching him how to play. 212 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: Chris Ballin and colets are saying, no, no, no, we want 213 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: the guys who have all the ingredients. We'll figure out 214 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: how to bake the cake. And DJ I am I'm 215 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: saying this because I was skeptical on Anthony Richardson when 216 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: he was entering the league. I was skeptical on some 217 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: of the guys who they had, like the super freaks. 218 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: But DJ right now is working and so that's either 219 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: at testament to whatever the development plan is that the 220 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: Colts have in the building, their coaches, having the right 221 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: teachers around those players, that allowing those guys to kind 222 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: of flourish and thrive right away. A lot of people 223 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 2: go and look at what the Colts did, and you 224 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: can start seeing some copycasts because the fact that they're 225 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: two and two, the fact that they're having success with 226 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: so many I almost say raw players, but so many 227 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 2: players who regarded as better athlete than player. To me, 228 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: that could be revolutionary when it comes to the the 229 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: scouting team building process. 230 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and on him specifically, on Juju Brentz, you talk 231 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: about traits coming out of the of the draft out 232 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: of Kansas State, just under six three, one hundred and 233 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: ninety eight pound corner with thirty four inch arms, which 234 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: is incredibly long. He ran four or five three. He 235 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: played an off. He can really drive. I didn't think 236 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: he had any wasted movement, quick feet, you know, he 237 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: played fast enough, he could carry those verticals. He was tough, 238 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: So when you talk about that size, you know, play 239 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: speed more so than time speed, but also had that 240 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: toughness every now and they just got caught peeking could 241 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: be a little bit aggressive at that time. And you know, 242 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: Quentin Johnson actually had a pretty good game against him. 243 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: But overall, I mean you're talking about size, length, play, speed, toughness. 244 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: Those are the traits that they're they're trying to develop 245 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: and work around. And I think you bring up a 246 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: great point, man. I think to me, when we're we 247 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: always talk about what makes a great head coach. Maybe 248 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: maybe an underrated aspect of being a great head coach 249 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: is being able to hire assistance that can really teach 250 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: and not you know, not be maybe so scheme obsessed. 251 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: You know, how are we going to match up with this, 252 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: this and this? Hey, if I give you a se 253 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: or a bee, can you make them a be or 254 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: an a like that. That's got to be a part 255 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: of this whole thing. 256 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: It has to be a part of it, and it 257 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: has to be a part of it now with so 258 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: many young players coming into the league. The limitations that 259 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: you have with the hours that you can spend with 260 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: the players in and around the facility, and just the 261 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: way that bald is going DJ, you don't get a 262 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: lot of practice time in pass so you have to 263 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: be able to teach guys how to play football without 264 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: really playing football. And it is something that sounds easy, 265 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: but new school, old school, whatever it is, you have 266 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: to be a great teacher. And that teaching is not 267 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: just Hey, I'm going to take it from blackboard to 268 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: the field, but can you give me the technique that 269 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: I need to be able to be successful? And as 270 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: a coach, do you have enough pitches in your bag 271 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: that what works for DJ may be different than what 272 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: works for Bucky. Do I have enough knowledge and experience 273 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: to be able to teach both guys different things but 274 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 2: have them play well within the same system. 275 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not cookie cutter. It's not one size fits 276 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: all to me. You've got to be able to customize 277 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: your coaching for your players and what they can and 278 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: can't do. I think that's an excellent point. All right, 279 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna take quick break when we come back, We're 280 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: gonna take a peek at the game of the week, 281 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: which shouldn't be a surprise. It is the Cowboys and 282 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers. We'll dig into that right after. 283 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: This, it's time for the MCS Game of the Week 284 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. This week Cowboys at forty nine Ers. 285 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 2: The spread is minus three and a half favor into 286 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: forty nine ers to over under. It's sitting at forty 287 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: five DJ. This is I mean, this is a classic. 288 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: If we were playing the video game, this is normally 289 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: what you would go to in terms of trying to 290 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: pick the two teams that you want to play on 291 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: the big screen. Teams that have a story, tradition in history, 292 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: and even though it's been a long time for both 293 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: of them in terms of winning the Super Bowl, all 294 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: of us our generation remember these epic battles that they 295 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: used to have. And for me, I just think about 296 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: the glitz and glamour of America's team, the Dallas Cowboys 297 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 2: versus the business, button up, first class nature of those 298 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: forty nine ers with Jerry Rice in touch. Man, it 299 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: doesn't get any better. This and the fact that both 300 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: teams are good, both teams have the teams have squared 301 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: off in each of the last two playoffs. Man, there's 302 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: a lot, there's a lot that goes into this one. 303 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 2: This one should be all eyes. This should down all 304 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: the other games and make everybody watch this because this 305 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: should be an all timer when it comes to the 306 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: classic play. 307 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: Okay, this is going to be impromptu here, but I 308 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: think it's a good exercise to have if you can 309 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: pull it up, Buck, I'll give you a minute. Pull 310 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: up the depth chart for the forty nine ers and 311 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, if you get a chance to peak 312 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: at it. Because here's an exercise that I want to do. 313 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: We've done this in the past on occasion in big games. 314 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: Usually playoffs are sul but I think it's it's easy 315 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: to say these two teams are very evenly matched. But 316 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: I think if we were to have a draft where 317 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: we said they are available for both squads, you have 318 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: you can pick here, Cowboys, forty nine Ers. We take 319 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: that pool of players, those hundred plus guys, we throw 320 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: them into one pool and we can pick and see 321 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: how this would shake out. And I would give you 322 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: I would give you the first pick, Buck, you can 323 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: pick anybody from that roster. Let's just go. Let's go 324 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: four or five rounds, and we'll see how it shakes out. 325 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: If the top ten players in this game? How many 326 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: of them play for each team? You're ready to go. 327 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: I'm ready to go. I get first pick, you get 328 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: first pick. Go ahead, Okay, I'm gonna take Michael Parsons 329 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: with the first pick. So that might be that's the 330 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: Cowboys main guy, that's the event. He is the guy 331 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: that you could talk about being a defensive Player of 332 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: the Year. He's a game change, he tilts the field, 333 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: Cowboy's favorite. I mean, he's special. 334 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I think that's a smart move. 335 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: I think I would have probably done the same thing. 336 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: And again, quarterbacks, I guess can be a part of this, 337 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: but I'm just gonna go strictly best players. So for me, 338 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: I would go Bosa. I would go Nick Bosa be 339 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: the next pick in this one, So I'll go to 340 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: the freaky edge rusher there for the forty nine ers. 341 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: D Yeah, I feel like we're about to have a run, 342 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: and I feel like the run is going to be 343 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: a handful of forty nine ers coming off the board 344 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: right away. 345 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: That's what I pointed. That's my point that I wanted 346 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: to get to. 347 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 2: So, I mean, so look, I'm gonna sit here and 348 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the guy CMC for MVP, even though 349 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: it's not a marquee position. I'm gonna take him just 350 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: because he has been so good. DJ. He scored a 351 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: touchdown in thirteen straight games since joining the Niners. We're 352 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: looking at the numbers in terms of his rushing ability, 353 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,119 Speaker 2: what he's added as a pass catch out the backfield. 354 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: The guy does it all. He is the most explosive 355 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: and dynamic player that will be on the field in 356 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: this game. He's the guy that you have to watch. 357 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good one. I would I 358 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: would agree with that in terms of how he's played 359 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: and what he means. I'm gonna go Trent Williams with 360 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: the next one, the big left tackle. Yes, for the 361 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. 362 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: I mean, that's why I had next. I mean, I 363 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: think that's I think that's a no brainer, and it 364 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: makes sense. He's a dominant player. He does so much. 365 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: I mean, DJ, I can't wait for him to put 366 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: him in motion this this week and let him just 367 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: kick out whoever's coming off the hedge. Maybe they'll have 368 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: a way to be able to do it so he 369 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: can kick out Michael Parson, so you can you can 370 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: move the ball. But I mean, DJ, We've talked about it. 371 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: You've talked about we got the pass rushing and Nick Bolsa, 372 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: you got the tackle in Trim Williams. We talked about 373 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: the playmaker and Christian McCaffrey. And I'm going again, and 374 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: I'm sitting here trying to figure out, like who's next. 375 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: And I mean, as much as I like Cede Lamb, look, 376 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: George Kittle is a unicorn at the position on the field. 377 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: I mean he's look that people say, half man, half amazing. 378 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: He's half offensive tackle, half wide receiver and he gets 379 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: it done on the varimber. So give me George Kittle 380 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: next off the board. So you take Kittle, I'm gonna go. 381 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Fred Warner. You know, Ceedee Lamb's got 382 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: a factor in here pretty soon. 383 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, if you just stack them up 384 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: just by their grades, Fred Warners, you can make it 385 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: case Fred Warner is the best linebacker in the NFL. 386 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: I mean, you're looking at it right now. Just if 387 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: we say bos is the second best defensive lineman or whatever, 388 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: and then then you would say cemc is the best 389 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: running back in the NFL. Trent Williams the best tackle 390 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL. George Killed maybe the best combo tight 391 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: end in terms of as a blocker what he gives you, 392 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: and Fred Warner is the best off the ball linebacker. 393 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy to say. 394 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: It's not crazy to say, and that's what we're saying. 395 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: And so when everyone talks about the San Francisco forty 396 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 2: nine ers and why they have been able to kind of, 397 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, make their hay and dominate, and the 398 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: way they look like a dominant team is the drafting. 399 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 2: It's the personnel. The personnel is everything and will eventually 400 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: get the brock Paridy. But the personnel is ridiculous. And 401 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: so I will save cde Lamb from going on a 402 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: further drop, but I will put him right here. But 403 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I could just as easily say, hey, I'll 404 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: take Deebo sam when Deebo Samuel is healthy, he gives 405 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: you some of that other stuff. But I'm gonna take 406 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb right now for the cowboy. 407 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: Cedee Lamb's a good one I would take. I'll come 408 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: back and I'm with you. I'll take Debo here with 409 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: the next one. 410 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: DJ. So let's think about this. 411 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: So I'm clicking at the top eight players in this game. 412 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: Are we're saying or forty nine ers. He's six of 413 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: the top eight. 414 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: I mean, we can talk about like maybe Zach Martin 415 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: and those guys, but DJ that San Francisco has so 416 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: many good young players there that it just makes it, man, 417 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: it just makes it hard to when we start matching 418 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: it up like this. It makes hard because after that 419 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: we have. 420 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: We haven't got we haven't got to Javon Hargrave, we 421 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: haven't got to green Law, we haven't got to Eric 422 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: good player, we haven't got to Brandon Ayuk. I mean, 423 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm just I mean, we can stop it here. This 424 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: is the point. The point that I was looking to 425 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: make is that you know people are going to be 426 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: on Dak, and Dak needs to win this game. Dak, 427 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: Dak has got you know, it's Dak and Purty and 428 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: you know this ain't Dak. This team is I like 429 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, they have a good team. They ain't close 430 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: on paper. 431 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: No, And that's what's scary about because until you until 432 00:19:54,119 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 2: we did the exercise, you don't realize how tilted it is. 433 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 2: And DJ and doing that exercise now and I think 434 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: that's a great one to do. When we come to 435 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: stacking up rosters around the league, DJ, who else is 436 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 2: in the forty nine ers class? They're only a handful 437 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: of teams that can legitimately go player for player with 438 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: the Niners. I mean, we're talking about guys. And we 439 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 2: always said this and I learned it, but what eight 440 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: to twelve blue chip players? Eight to twelve championship players 441 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: typically comprise a Super Bowl roster. We just had a 442 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: draft where six of the first eight went to the Niners, 443 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: and six of the players that we mentioned they're in 444 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: the conversation to be the best at their respective position. 445 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: And when we start handicapping or predicting which teams are 446 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: going to go to the super Bowl, if we go 447 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: by the roster, they're not many teams that can compete 448 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: one on one player for player with the rosters too deep, 449 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: the Niners too deep. Depth chart. 450 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you just look at Javon, Hargrave and green Law, 451 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: I could make a case that you would take them 452 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: before you would take another Cowboy. So I mean you 453 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: could you could get to the point where you could 454 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 1: say eight if we even just take the quarter, if 455 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: we say we put the quarterbacks off to the side. 456 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: The top ten players in this game, eight of them 457 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: are forty nine ers. That's not crazy, That's that's not 458 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: crazy to say. I think you can make a strong 459 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: argument that that's true. And Digs being out obviously factors 460 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: into that. He probably cracks the list, but he ain't playing. 461 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: I mean, even if you would DJ, we would then 462 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: have questions about, from a consistency standpoint, how do we 463 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: put them up there with the others. And I love Diggs, 464 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 2: but how do we put them up there when the 465 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: others When we see the guys that we named, Trent Williams, 466 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: Christ McCaffrey, all those guys, from a consistent standpoint, they 467 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: typically have good game, good game, good game, good game. 468 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: Is red that you see him with the double agent 469 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: games where it's half good for them, half bad. And 470 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: you just wonder this this Marky match. 471 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Tony Pollard is going to be 472 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: in the conversation here, but I would take Debo over 473 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard. I would take Javon Hargrave over Tony Pollard. 474 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: I like Tony Pollard, but I'm Drake Greenlaw Tony Pollard. Okay, 475 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: maybe maybe maybe you go Poward their green law is 476 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: is a stud though. I mean, that's a good conversation 477 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: to have. So Okay, maybe we go maybe we put 478 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: Poward in there, and maybe you say seven out of 479 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: ten still seven outside. 480 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: It is very lopsided because even after we get to 481 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: the top ten DJ then when we started talking about 482 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: the depth, Ninus have greater depth in the Cowboys. Cowboys 483 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: has been great, but the Niners have better depth. And 484 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: as we think about the expectations of the Cowboys being 485 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl team and those things, look at who 486 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: they have to climb over top of to get there, 487 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: the Niners, the Eagles. That's what really makes it makes 488 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: a really interesting discussion. It's one that maybe, look, maybe 489 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 2: maybe we're wrong, but right now on paper, it looks 490 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: like it could be a bit of a live sided 491 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: game for the forty nine ers. We'll see what what 492 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: ultimately transpire. Herties this weekend, that was the MTS Game 493 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: of the Week presented by Draft King Sportsbook. 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I think it's a fun exercise. 502 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: So I'm just going to go through the teams that 503 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: are currently in last place, and a percentage that you 504 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: think they have to make the postseason. You know, could 505 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: be fifty zero percent. You ready to go? 506 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? This would okay? 507 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: All right? First off, here, the Jets and the Patriots 508 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: are each one and three, so let's give them each 509 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: a percentage. Here, start with the Patriots boom to make 510 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I would say a ten percent chance for 511 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: the Patriots to make the playoffs. I'm just man, the 512 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: quarterback isn't playing. 513 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: Great, and macwill surprised you were that high. I mean, 514 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: you just never know, You just never know. Maybe they 515 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: can pull a rabbit out of that. But the quarterbacks 516 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: not playing well. They don't have anybody that scares you 517 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: on the perimeter on offense. And then Matt Judin being heard, 518 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: Christian Zales being heard, they trade for jac Jackson. Just 519 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 2: not enough for them to be able to get back 520 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 2: in it. There's always a punch of shance. Someone say 521 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 2: Belichick sometimes canna pull a rabbit out of that, but 522 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: I don't think it's likely this year. And for the 523 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: New York Jests, I will say this, everyone is focused 524 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: on Zach Wilson and is he able to lead this team. 525 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson will be able to lead the team if 526 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: the defense lives up to expectation. They haven't played well 527 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 2: the last three weeks. If the defense plays the way 528 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 2: that everyone expects them to play well, then Zach Wilson 529 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: can get this team to the playoffs as a game manager. 530 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: But until I said, is his defense playing at a 531 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: top five level, the Jets chances are slim to none. 532 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give them fifteen percent, but that is really 533 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: hanging by a thread. It really hinges on whether the 534 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 2: defense can kind of fix their woes. 535 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna go probably seven and a half 536 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: percent for the Patriots. Maybe I'm gonna go twenty percent 537 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: for the Jets. Well, all no more. If the Jets 538 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: lose the Broncos this week, then that number goes down 539 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: to next to nothing, So a big one for them. 540 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals Buck. They look terrible. They're one in 541 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: three the division right now. Baltimore's three and one, the 542 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: other two or two and two. What do you think 543 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: on them? 544 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's over, man, I think it's 545 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: over for them. I think they had their little run. 546 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 2: I worry about Joe Burrow. His limited mobility takes away 547 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff that he does. And does 548 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor have the ability to go to another pitch 549 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: when look it's not getting over to play The way 550 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: they're playing offense right now is not effective. Does he 551 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: have anything else that he can go to. I'm gonna 552 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: say no, I'm gonna give them a twenty percent chance 553 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 2: of being able to do it just because of the 554 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: talent on their roster. Not real optimistic. Because there's so 555 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: many talented teams in a division. It's gonna be hard 556 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 2: for them to get to the top of the division 557 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: to give themselves a chance to get to the postseason. 558 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: Now, they're already zero and two in the division, oh 559 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: and three in the conference, which is not a great start. Now, 560 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: the good news is they have two games I think 561 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: they can win before the buye if they get those 562 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: two now, you're three and three, come out of the by. 563 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: They got a brutal stretch. But if they can somehow 564 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: get these next two wins, I think they could fight 565 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: back into it. I might just go a tiny bit higher. 566 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: I'll go give them a quarter just in the assumption 567 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: if they get to five hundred get the buy. Maybe 568 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: Burrow comes back, he's healthier, uh, and maybe they look 569 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: like a different football team. But you know, not super 570 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: optimistic there. I'm gonna skip the AFC South because the 571 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: whole division's two and two. So, yeah, that doesn't really work. 572 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: Doesn't work with that exercise. The Raiders and the Broncos 573 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: are each one and three. Just kind of quickly on them. 574 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't really see either of them as playoff teams. 575 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: For yeah, less less than ten percent for both teams. 576 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: Less than yeah, five percent maybe if that's a very 577 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: generous five percent for both of them. I just haven't 578 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: seen enough out of either squad to say that they 579 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: are a serious playoff team. The Raiders just can't get 580 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 2: it going. Josh Jacobs hasn't been able to run the football, 581 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: and man, for whatever reason, this team just cannot win 582 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: these close games, and so they're out of it. And 583 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: for the Broncos defensively they're terrible. You can't give up 584 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: a seventy burger. Look, seventy burger. You still have flashbacks 585 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 2: and nightmares of how bad that was. I can't imagine 586 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: a team that gives up seventy points fives this way 587 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: into the postseason. 588 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: Tourn I think it was more embarrassing what they gave 589 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: up to the Bears, to be honest, than the seventy 590 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: they gave up to the Dolphins. Yeah. I put five 591 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,239 Speaker 1: percent for each of those teams. Maybe less, maybe two 592 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: and a half percent. Then we get to the NFC, 593 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: the Giants at man recency bias, they're one and three. 594 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: It's hard to feel like there's, you know, a chance 595 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: to really turn this thing around. I guess if you 596 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: get you know, you get your running back back, you 597 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: get your left tackle back, maybe you can get better. 598 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: But they haven't inspired much confidence what we've seen thus far. 599 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: No, they haven't aspires just and he's just kind of 600 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: worried about where there are quarterbacks not playing great. Barkley's 601 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: gonna beat up when he comes back. Not a lot 602 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: to build him, And I'm waiting for this defense to dominate. 603 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: Last of the defense was kind of able to hold 604 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: Rock City into the offense and pick it up in games. 605 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: Haven't been able to do that, and their offensive line 606 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: has not performed well. As much as you want to 607 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: blame everything, we want to blame everything on Daniel Jones. 608 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: He needs to be protected. Everyone knows he has to 609 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: have a four shield around him. They have not done that, 610 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: and because of that, the turnovers have started to come. 611 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: What do you think two and a half percent? Two 612 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: and a half All right, there you go, Bears. I'm 613 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: going to go the It's hard to do it, but 614 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to give him the zero percent. They have 615 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: no chance of making the playoffs, so they can clip 616 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: that and throw it back in my face if if 617 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but I don't know how I could give 618 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: them anything other than a zero percent chance. 619 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: I mean zero. It's bad. It's been bad last week. 620 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: They teased this for a little bit and then the 621 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: turnover showed up late for fields. They just can't man, 622 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: it can't get again, like something. 623 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: Not just bad at some point in time. It's like, 624 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: we don't need to try and reinvent the wheel of 625 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: analysis here. They stink, all right, Carolina Panthers zero and four. 626 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 1: Any any hope there or that is that ship already sailed? 627 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: No, no, And I am really disappointed. I thought this 628 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: team would be better. I mean, I know there were 629 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: people that thought would be a death it's just not 630 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: it's not good. And the defense is taking a step 631 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,239 Speaker 2: back offensively. Bryce Young's trying to figure it out. Frank Whre, 632 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: He's trying to do what to do, but it's just 633 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: this is not good. So zero percent chance of the 634 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers making the postseason. 635 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would probably go with you on 636 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: that one. And then lastly, I think it's surprising team 637 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: that if you can say surprising at one in three, 638 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: but look, their point difference is only minus fourteen. It's 639 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: not it's not terrible compared to some of these other 640 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: last place teams. But the Arizona Cardinals here at one 641 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: and three, love. 642 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: The effort, love the competitiveness. They're gonna win some more 643 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: games because of how hard they played. The effort and 644 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: the toughness that they displayed has been really impressive. That's 645 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: it here, comes to truth. Yeah, it doesn't doesn't translate anything. 646 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: Zero percent chance. They just don't have enough. They don't 647 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: have enough. Five prior to get on the street where 648 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: they can win ten games. I just can't see us 649 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: scenario where they win ten games to make it. Maybe 650 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: they get four or five, they won't get ten. 651 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: No, they're not gonna make it. I'll go two and 652 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: a half percent. But it's a competitive team, much better 653 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: than what I thought they would be. All right. I 654 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: want to remind everybody we have got episodes each and 655 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: every day, five episodes a week here on Move the Sticks, 656 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: including the video show that streams at four pm Pacific 657 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: every Tuesday on the NFL Fast Channel. So lots of 658 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: Move the Stix content coming your way. 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