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Speaker 2: This He's Talking Cowboys Training live from Dallas Cowboys Training

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Speaker 2: Camp in Oxnard.

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Speaker 4: Calls LAMB six past second, Pascot Tison, Teddy.

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Speaker 5: And now your hosts Isaiah standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez,

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Speaker 5: and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: Finally, the Dallas Cowboys have come back to Oxnard, California.

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Speaker 3: We're here at training camp. Let's welcome the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: the staff, the players, the coaches, and new Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 3: lineup presented by Black Rifle Coffee. I am here with

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Speaker 3: Patrick Noci Walker. Say hi to the people. Patrick returning

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Speaker 3: to Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, it is glad. I'm glad to be

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Speaker 5: back Talking Cowboys. I'm back to where it all started.

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Speaker 5: Shouts out to Derek Eagleton and bar Garcia and Brian

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Speaker 5: brought us. I had a blast last season on the break,

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Speaker 5: but now that I'm back, we gotta we gotta come

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Speaker 5: take y'all down.

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Speaker 3: So there it is, and we have Cowboys, legend and

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Speaker 3: star of hanging with the boys. Nathaniel Newton, Welcome to

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Speaker 3: the show. You're not on the main lineup, but you

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Speaker 3: are here. See how to the people?

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Speaker 6: Nate, Hey, what's a passion? I love you, baby, you

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Speaker 6: broke that down real sweet Nate. Y'all know who I am.

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Speaker 7: Baby.

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Speaker 6: I fell in for a lot of people doing training camp.

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Speaker 6: I enjoyed. This is my like forty fifth year of

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Speaker 6: ben in some forty first year being in somebody's training camp.

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Speaker 7: I'm loving it.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations, that's amazing. And Shosta hanging with the boys. I

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Speaker 3: know you're on that show. I know it's a good show.

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Speaker 3: What's the whole name? I forget his name?

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Speaker 8: Sharon baby baby him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, boys were here, let's talk about There's so much

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Speaker 3: to talk about. Practice hasn't even started yet. We haven't

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Speaker 3: had a press conference yet. So what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: How are you guys feeling? It doesn't feel good to

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Speaker 3: be back here in Oxnard, California?

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Speaker 7: Oh great?

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Speaker 6: I mean you say I'm in a T shirt basically, man,

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Speaker 6: a Cowboys T shirt. Well there's what sixty sixty nine? Yeah, yeh,

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Speaker 6: I'm feeling good. I just want to This is when

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Speaker 6: they had told me, when Chris Bean told me, hey, man,

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Speaker 6: you're gonna be on a different show. I'm like, Patrick's

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Speaker 6: is Patrick gonna be on that? He said, Yeah, I said,

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Speaker 6: put me on that show. Unfortunately, I hooked up with

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Speaker 6: your baby, Josh. I love you, hey, and tell Josh

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Speaker 6: he wasting food at hand camp, So stop doing that.

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Speaker 3: Look at me, there's not possible. That's not possible.

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Speaker 1: There's no So we're jumping off already. We're getting right.

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Speaker 3: No, we're getting right too.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Nate Newton accuses me of wasting food by the looks

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Speaker 3: of me. By the looks of me, that is virtually impossible.

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Speaker 3: So I'm calling guys.

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Speaker 5: These guys I number one, We're gonna have some fun

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Speaker 5: first and foremost. Second of all, I couldn't be more excited.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like you said, pressure football today, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: Football is back.

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Speaker 5: Football is back for all of the pressure that the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys are under right now, ladies and gentlemen, and make

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Speaker 5: no mistake about it, they are under a monumental amount

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Speaker 5: of pressure to get things done, starting effective today when

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Speaker 5: the first practice gets underway. But nonetheless, whether you're you're

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Speaker 5: can all agree that football is back, and there's nothing

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Speaker 5: more exciting than that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So practice has started, so we still

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Speaker 3: have a lot of the lingering news from before camp

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Speaker 3: started kind of facing us right now, Ceedee Lamb, quote

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Speaker 1: They're all cleared a full goal.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna start today and not a couple hours from now,

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Speaker 5: in a holdout pattern hasn't reported just yet. He and

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys are still negotiating his contract. I'm told that

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Speaker 5: he's back in South Texas. He's staying ready, he's still working.

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Speaker 5: And for those that have been wondering, if you've not

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Speaker 5: Lamb has been preparing the whole time, right, so he's

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Speaker 1: But until it does, guys.

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Speaker 5: Jalen Jalen, Jalen Cavante Turpin. Right, these young guys, Ryan

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Speaker 5: Flora or the rookie seventh sixth round pick, He's going

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Speaker 5: to get some reps as well.

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Speaker 1: They need to take advantage of this opportunity.

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Speaker 6: Take your time, do what you have to do, you know,

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Speaker 6: stay in touch with your agent, continue to work, do

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Speaker 6: your think as an ex player, I understand. I have

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Speaker 6: no comment for that. His work speaks for itself. And

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Speaker 6: he's still young enough to receive the type of money

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Speaker 6: making it happen in Patrick c. You you mentioned a

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Speaker 3: Well, speaking of Dak, I mean that contract hasn't been

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Speaker 5: I feel like the only one of those big three

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Speaker 5: So that does make it easier for them knowing that

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Speaker 5: their generational pass rusher is basically saying, take care of

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Speaker 3: That shows a level of maturity, that shows leadership as well,

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Speaker 3: a lot of question marks about that since the end

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Speaker 6: You know, for certain guys, I won't I want them

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Speaker 6: But what what I need for us for us to

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Speaker 6: get this thing situated with Dak. We have to get

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Speaker 6: this situated because he is the guy that will allow

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Speaker 7: I mean, what is his cap hit this year.

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Speaker 1: Patrick oh Man, It's about sixty million.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so he is either cap enhancer, cap stopper, So

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Speaker 6: we whatever they need to do, let the fans know,

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Speaker 6: and more importantly, let let let the teammates know where

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Speaker 6: If Dak is the guy we're paying, we take care

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Speaker 7: You can go out and get other guys.

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Speaker 6: You know, you know, what's your situation to be with

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And when it comes to salary cap management, what

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Speaker 5: Dak's deal done will immediately depending on how its structured,

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Speaker 5: but it will immediately free up tens of millions of

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Speaker 5: And but what you don't want to do is send

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Speaker 5: and as Big Nate can speak on it those for

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Speaker 5: those that didn't live that that was not a fun situation, right,

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Speaker 5: You're talking about the McGee's of the world and the

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Speaker 1: And you know, as much as.

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Speaker 5: I love my bulldog, sorry Quincy, but eh well yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: kind of you got gifted Tony Romo. So, regardless of

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Speaker 5: how people feel about Tony Romo, in fact was Tony

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Speaker 5: Romo fell in the Cowboys lap as an undrafted guy

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Speaker 5: then you fall backwards into another franchise quarterback in Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 5: a compensatory fourth round pick right at the back end

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Speaker 5: of Tony Romo's career.

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Speaker 7: His brain.

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Speaker 3: Going to move up for those peace, So.

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Speaker 5: That type of luck is not going to continue to happen.

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Speaker 5: You have your franchise quarterback pay him. He was a

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Speaker 5: runner up for League MVP last year, he's a first

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Speaker 5: he's an All Pro from last year, led the number

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Speaker 5: one offense. Again, that's the kind of guy you lock up.

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Speaker 3: What about question marks surrounding Dak? Though we saw the

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Speaker 3: collapse of the overall team, right, I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: put that on on Dak, of course, but getting to

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Speaker 3: the next step, getting to the next level, getting to

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Speaker 3: an NFC championship, I think that's kind of the lingering

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Speaker 3: question mark for the entire season. Can we get there?

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Speaker 3: No matter what we do for the rest of the season,

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Speaker 3: it is in that moment, do you Dak Prescott in

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Speaker 6: You know, you know, we were all emotional after that game.

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Speaker 6: We saw Dak was not up to par what he

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Speaker 7: So it was a team effort.

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Speaker 6: But what hurts is your quarterback cannot be a part

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Speaker 3: Put some respect on his name.

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Speaker 5: But when you talk about Dak Prescott, you have to

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Speaker 7: So you justified.

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Speaker 5: You know, when it comes to me, it's all science,

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Speaker 5: So Dalton Schultz was he was capable, but was he

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Speaker 5: So rightful to ask the question, can Dak Prescott get

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Speaker 1: I like that. They like that reading that you had

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Speaker 6: No, I mean is that tension coming for us as fans?

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Speaker 6: Is that tension coming from coach McCarthy? Because coach McCarthy

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Speaker 7: He knows he's been in.

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Speaker 6: Every situation that you can bring up good, bad, and indifference.

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Speaker 5: I don't feel like there's any pressure whatsoever, as far

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Speaker 5: And then you go in, you boaster the defensive side

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Speaker 5: which is why Mike Nolan is no longer employed here, Okay.

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Speaker 5: And then he gives you what twelve win season? Twelve

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Speaker 5: That's what McCarthy is focused on right now. But for

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Speaker 3: He was. He was the bell cow in a lot

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Speaker 3: of ways for the Patriots and was getting those dirty yards,

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Speaker 3: which we desperately needed last year. Kauf, thinking back to Miami,

441
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Speaker 3: we needed those dirty yards and we needed secure ball

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Speaker 3: security as well. So how are we feeling about Zeke?

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Speaker 3: Is he a bell cow or a band aid?

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Speaker 7: I mean, you want to jump on his first battery.

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Speaker 5: No disrespect to Ezekiel Elliott, but I think he knows

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Speaker 5: that he's a band aid in the aspect of you're

447
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Speaker 5: not getting Bell kow Zik, You're not getting the former

448
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Speaker 5: NFL rushing champ. That's not what you're getting. What you're

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Speaker 5: getting is a guy who is still at twenty nine.

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Speaker 5: At only twenty nine, he's still extremely capable of making

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Speaker 5: plays for you. And the style of play that he

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Speaker 5: operates within is what you sorely missed when you released

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Speaker 5: him not long ago.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 5: You let him go because you believe that Tony povertin

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Speaker 5: Rico Dawdle could give you that sledge hammer versus sword dynamic, Right,

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Speaker 5: but what you ended up with was two swords. Okay,

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Speaker 5: there was no sledge hammer. Now, A lot of that

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Speaker 5: goes to the offensive line. You had a lot of injuries,

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Speaker 5: there was a carousel there. Chemistry couldn't really be established.

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Speaker 5: And what doesn't get talked about a lot, and I

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Speaker 5: know Big Nate can attest to this is not only

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Speaker 5: chemistry across the front five, but chemistry from running back

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Speaker 5: to knowing which the tendencies of each blocker to run

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Speaker 5: behind him. What he's going to do so that was disjointed.

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Speaker 5: They bringing Ezekiel Elliott. I think you're looking at maybe

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Speaker 5: ten to twelve touches per game. I said touches, not

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Speaker 5: handoffs per se. Ten to twelve touches. He splits duties

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Speaker 5: with ric o'dowdo and then they try to figure out

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Speaker 5: the real question is what happens with Duce Faughn and

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Speaker 5: Hunter Lipkey and Royce Freeman and any one of the

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Speaker 5: other six running backs that they have on this depth chart.

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Speaker 7: I agree with you wholeheartedly.

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Speaker 6: This is my deal and this is where coach McCarthy

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Speaker 6: plays a big role. Go back to his Green Bay days.

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Speaker 6: I mean he always had a nice running back, never

477
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Speaker 6: nothing super all over the top. He's back in that

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Speaker 6: situation again, and this is where his experience will let

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Speaker 6: us know what Zeke made.

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Speaker 7: This game.

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Speaker 6: He may touch it nine times. This game, he may

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Speaker 6: touch at fifteen. As the season going, he may have

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Speaker 6: a game where he touched it twenty times. He knows

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Speaker 6: how to play these guys. He knows who rico'dondell is.

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Speaker 6: The question is men you talking about at the dinner

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Speaker 6: table last night. It's the nineteen other running exactly that

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Speaker 6: we don't know, and that coach McCarthy got to figure

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Speaker 6: out how he's gonna use these guys. He will not

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Speaker 6: make the same mistake twice, Coach McCarthy, but he and

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna say this because live it out of line

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Speaker 6: and not what we're talking about. But this is where

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Speaker 6: Dak has to be a little bit better too, you know,

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Speaker 6: making sure at all costs that you're in the right

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Speaker 6: play for your personnel that's in the game at that

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Speaker 6: agreed agreed.

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Speaker 3: So I know Nate's not gonna want to chime in

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Speaker 3: on this, but we have a new look offensive line

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Speaker 3: and looking at this new offensive line, you dressed it

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Speaker 3: heavily in the draft, which you absolutely needed to do.

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Speaker 3: I want to know, is this offensive line? Is this

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Speaker 3: the offensive line we're looking at or we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: any question marks going into Week one based on this campalone?

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Speaker 6: You know, yes? And I told you guys, we're all

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Speaker 6: talking at the dinner table. We're a new group of

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Speaker 6: guys together, so we prepping at the dinner table. But

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Speaker 6: last night, and I'm telling guys, until I see guys

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Speaker 6: play two or three regular season games, it's gonna be questions.

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Speaker 6: Now you will get a Parsons and you would get

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Speaker 6: other pass rush I can't think of my guys and

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Speaker 6: ain't been in the league forever. You'll get guys that

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Speaker 6: would give these guys great pass rush looks.

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Speaker 7: They'll get a lot of that doing the deal.

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Speaker 6: But the run game, that's something you have to work on,

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Speaker 6: and a lot of coaches don't really work that. You know,

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Speaker 6: all practice are wrong, it's just different sessions. So you

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Speaker 6: have to get in a game and watch these guys

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Speaker 6: during the regular season before you can give a true

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Speaker 6: opinion of who Guidil is.

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Speaker 7: Who BB is.

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Speaker 6: Because if BB's not starting at center, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 6: a little I'm gonna be a little hurt.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna be a lot hurt. And so.

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Speaker 6: I want the rookies to be in their offensive line wise.

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Speaker 6: I want every young guy that has an opportunity to

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Speaker 6: be able to play, to get every rep.

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Speaker 7: Zach Martin practice once once a week.

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Speaker 6: I will not be hurt, you know, But the other

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Speaker 6: guys I need to see them. If Tyler Smith don't

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Speaker 6: practice but twice a week, I will not be hurt.

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Speaker 6: But every from Austome Rich is the TJ Bass to

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Speaker 6: guiding to BB to to anybody that has.

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Speaker 7: A chance to make this team.

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Speaker 6: I want to see them in there doing everything they

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Speaker 6: can doing from the from this day fourth all the

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Speaker 6: way through preseason.

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Speaker 5: Bottom line is this is that anyone who tells you

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Speaker 5: in regardles, let's say Tyler Guyton and Cooper BB steal

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Speaker 5: the show at camp, okay, which would mean more more

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Speaker 5: than likely they're going.

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Speaker 1: To be your starters. That's how you know you're starting five.

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Speaker 5: Even if that's true, and we hope it's true, even

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Speaker 5: if that's true, there is no way that you can

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Speaker 5: look someone straight in the eye and tell them that

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Speaker 5: two rookie starters on your offensive line, the most important

545
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Speaker 5: unit on the entire football field, doesn't bear questions going

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Speaker 5: into Week one, which would be their NFL debut. In

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Speaker 5: fact is you have a lot of youth Cleveland and

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Speaker 5: this this ain't this ain't your granddaddy Cleveland Browns. Okay,

549
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Speaker 5: this is your Miles Garrett Cleveland Browns. And that defensive

550
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Speaker 5: line is one of the best in the league. They're

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Speaker 5: going to be tested early. But when you talk about

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Speaker 5: you know, Tyler Guyton and Cooper BB. Now let's go

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Speaker 5: to some of the other young guys. Who aren't rookies.

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Speaker 5: Brock Hoffman, TJ. Bass, Right, these are guys. Even though

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Speaker 5: brock Hoffman he's a lunch pail guy, he will absolutely

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Speaker 5: compete for starter.

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Speaker 1: TJ.

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Speaker 5: Bass he's a gamer. Came mostly out of nowhere, right,

559
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Speaker 5: not unlike Terrence Steele, but on the interior of the

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Speaker 5: offensive line when the Cowboys needed.

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Speaker 3: Them so much.

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Speaker 5: Youth uh aside, Beside, you know, Zach Martin and Terrence Steele,

563
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Speaker 5: you have to have question marks because I'm always of

564
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Speaker 5: the mindset, Big Nate, that it takes three to four

565
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Speaker 5: games of the same front five playing together for them

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Speaker 5: to really start geling and knowing each other's tendencies. So

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Speaker 5: there's no way that I'm going into week one with

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Speaker 5: all of my belief in Cooper BB because I believe

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Speaker 5: he'll be the starter. And I'm also on record of

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Speaker 5: saying I believe Tyler got In will earn his start

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Speaker 5: at left tip I go against the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: Even that being the case, I would be.

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Speaker 5: Completely disingenuous to sit here and say, knowing that or

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Speaker 5: believing that, I still feel like, oh, I'll be completely confident.

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Speaker 5: No questions. They were all said, No, I need to

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Speaker 5: see it. I need to see it in real time

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Speaker 5: against real competition. And when I say real competition, I

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Speaker 5: mean outside of training camp, because this defensive line is

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Speaker 5: going to test them as well. Right, DeMarcus Lawrence, Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 5: don't forget about guys like Sam Williams, oh so Odiggy

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Speaker 5: Zuwa okay, and then of course talk about another rookie,

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Speaker 5: Marshawn naland he's gonna make some waves as well. So

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Speaker 5: I want to see it like Big Nate Week one,

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Speaker 5: Week two, Week three, Week four. Ask me that question

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Speaker 5: again as we go in to October.

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Speaker 3: Now, I want to share a quick story with what

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Speaker 3: happened last year at Cam. Nate told me this and

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Speaker 3: it stuck with me and it rained true. Last season

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Speaker 3: he said, you don't really know the identity of your

590
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Speaker 3: own team until Thanksgiving. Now it rained true. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the beginning of the season was what it was. You

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Speaker 3: get after the Charger, he kind of knows what he's

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Speaker 3: talking He kind of knows what he's talking about. After

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Speaker 3: the Chargers saw the offense jail you said, you saw

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Speaker 3: him come together, and you did know who the team

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Speaker 3: was by Thanksgiving. My issue here is that the schedule

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Speaker 3: is so front loaded. We have so many difficult capital

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Speaker 3: d difficult teams to play in the front half of

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Speaker 3: this schedule that I don't think we have until Thanksgiving

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Speaker 3: to get this offensive line jelling. But we'll see, I mean,

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Speaker 3: we'll see how training camp goes, and we'll see how

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Speaker 3: these guys look, and I would love to see a

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Speaker 3: we have Patrick. Can you stop reading?

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Speaker 5: You know, normally I'd say yes, but when it's reading,

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Speaker 5: when it's The Cowboys Training Camp magazine for twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 5: it's just it's it's a read that you can't put down. Okay,

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Speaker 5: And of course there is the Training Camp opening version

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Speaker 5: of my Science Lab series which is in here as well,

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Speaker 5: So make sure you get it and get yourself ready

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Speaker 1: Get yourself ready.

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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys dot Com get you Star Magazine. Yeah, Training

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Speaker 3: Camp review. Thank you to Kurt for putting that together.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Kurt Daniels, phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: Shouts to Mia k on Talking Cowboys with the host

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Speaker 3: charin segment. All right, so I like this. Also in

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Speaker 3: Dallas cow Boys, we have a we have a an

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Speaker 3: article series called Mailbag, and I love these. I love

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Speaker 3: one of her fans sending their questions, uh for for

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Speaker 3: the writers to address. Always fun, always fun. I liked

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Speaker 3: this one a lot. This one was from Benny Reynolds

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Speaker 3: and Houston shouts to you, my friend, and this is

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Speaker 3: basically the whole topic of the of the entire show.

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Speaker 3: I loved this question. But what is the biggest question

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Speaker 3: mark here at training Camp?

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Speaker 1: What's you're thinking?

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Speaker 6: Big Nate Mizzie Smith. I like that along with his

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Speaker 6: second pick brother tight end. Those are the biggest Those

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Speaker 6: are the biggest answers. Man the biggest question. Excuse me?

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Speaker 6: I mean you may be Patrick, see can answered? Is

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Speaker 6: what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm I'm drawing a circle around defensive

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Speaker 5: tackle as a whole unit. Right, And obviously that's led

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Speaker 5: by a question mark on what version of Mazzie Smith

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Speaker 5: are we about to see effective today? Are we about

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Speaker 5: to see the Michigan version of Mazzie Smith, the definitive

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Speaker 5: nose tackle who eats up double?

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Speaker 1: Are we about to.

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Speaker 5: See the dan Quinn's version in twenty twenty three where

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Speaker 5: he tried the conversion to a three tech. That being said,

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Speaker 5: Cowboys did not bring in not as of yet, a

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Speaker 5: big name free agent for defensive tackles, so they're leaning

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Speaker 5: heavily on Mazzie Smith and rookie seventh round pick Justin

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Speaker 5: Rodgers along with veteran Carl Davis. You already know what

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Speaker 5: you're gonna get from os o'diggi Zua. That's not a

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Speaker 5: question mark at all. He is an absolute baller. But

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Speaker 5: Chauncey Golston he's going into a contract year. Will he

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Speaker 5: break out this season? They need him to? So for me,

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Speaker 5: the biggest, single, biggest question mark is how does this

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Speaker 5: defensive tackle position play out for Mike Zimmer who, along

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Speaker 5: with his linebackers, he depends largely on what his defensive

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Speaker 5: tackles can do in trying to stop.

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Speaker 3: The room Mine is and a lot of weight gets

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Speaker 3: put into this question. But is the team still bought

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Speaker 3: in now? Bought in is a relative phrase. You hear

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Speaker 3: it a lot.

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Speaker 1: Please listen, everybody wants to read this, you know.

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, pages looking at the science in Star magazine,

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Speaker 3: look at that.

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Speaker 1: From an airplane.

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Speaker 3: But is the teams bought in now? They jeled so

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Speaker 3: well during the regular season, especially after that Chargers Moday

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Speaker 3: night football game. Do we see them step right back

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Speaker 3: into that rhythm offensively? Or is there some PTSD from

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Speaker 3: the Green Bay wild card debacle? That's I kind of

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Speaker 3: want to, Like I said, I even brought the question

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Speaker 3: up earlier. Is there like a tense air? Is there?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't feel as optimistic as

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Speaker 3: I did last year, and I'm sure a lot of

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Speaker 3: fans are feeling the same way. But football's here. You

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Speaker 3: can't not be excited about it. But it's just that

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Speaker 3: lingering question in the background for me is are we

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Speaker 3: bought in?

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Speaker 5: I'll say this and I'll toss it to to Big Nate.

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Speaker 5: As far as the offense is concerned, Ceedee Lamb's absence notwithstanding,

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Speaker 5: I think this offense not only steps right back into

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Speaker 5: what they were doing last season, I think they have

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Speaker 5: a great opportunity to take the step forward. We'll see

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Speaker 5: how the running back situations shake out. But I talked

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Speaker 5: to Dak Prescott and Brandon Cook specifically about one particular thing.

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Speaker 5: I asked him both. I said, what's the difference between

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Speaker 5: right now in a year ago in Mike McCarthy's offense

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Speaker 5: in Dallas, the Texas Coast offense, if you will, And

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Speaker 5: they both said the same thing. Last year was a

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Speaker 5: whole lot of heavy installs and that's why they got

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Speaker 5: off to the slow start to the season, a little

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Speaker 5: bit disjointed. Slow start for Brandon Cook, slow start with

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Speaker 5: Ceedee Lamb, slow start with Jake Ferguson. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: as the season went on, Jake Ferguson's played at a

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Speaker 5: Pro Bowl level. Brandon Cook started to get involved, and

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Speaker 5: we saw what Ceedee Lamb was able to do all

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Speaker 5: of that in the passing game without a running game

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Speaker 5: to really speak of. So I believe that from a

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Speaker 5: passing offense standpoint, they're just going to pick up and

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Speaker 5: go to the next level because they're comfortable. Now let's

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Speaker 5: install more just playing football and knowing the playbook. It's

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Speaker 5: the running game that needs to take the step forward.

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Speaker 6: I agree one hundred percent. I ain't much more to

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Speaker 6: add on that. I just I don't see no tension.

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Speaker 6: I don't feel no tension. We'll see, you know, we

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Speaker 6: got a press conference coming up here pretty soon.

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Speaker 7: We'll see what. And at ten, there's Nick Harris. I

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Speaker 7: thought he was sick of been anyway.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm feeling sick of losing the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Same here, man, same here. So uh so, I'm sorry, Nate,

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Speaker 3: were you finished with your point?

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Speaker 7: What Patrick had to say.

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Speaker 3: Right when we got here was that two days ago.

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Speaker 3: Uh immediately after we got off the bus, Jordan Lewis

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Speaker 3: spoke to the media. Patrick. I was sitting next to

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Speaker 3: him and he shoved me out of the way to

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Speaker 3: get to the press conference. It was very rude of him,

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Speaker 3: and he hasn't apologized yet, but okay, thank you, thank

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Speaker 3: you on a public platform. He's only apologizing because he's

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Speaker 3: doing because he's on a public platform. But anyways, he

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Speaker 3: spoke to the media on playing for coach Mike Zimmer

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Speaker 3: installing a new defense, new scheme. Uh, is there a

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Speaker 3: possibility that the scheme drastically changes his output this season?

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Speaker 3: And is that why he stayed in Dallas?

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Speaker 5: Well, he said, that's why. He said, that's one reason why.

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Speaker 5: The other reason, he said, is because quote unquote Dallas

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Speaker 5: is home. This is a guy who's approaching year ten

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Speaker 5: in the league and he's been with Dallas the entire time.

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Speaker 5: And when you look at the arc of Jordan Lewis,

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Speaker 5: he comes in and because he doesn't fit the prototype

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Speaker 5: of Chris Raschard and Rob Marinelli at the time, he's

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Speaker 5: kind of shelved and he had to earn his way

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Speaker 5: from the bench, and then he became the only ballhawk

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Speaker 5: on the team had in the pre Treyvon Diggs years.

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Speaker 5: He gets back to for him last year after suffering

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Speaker 5: almost a career threatening injury, and then he starts being

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Speaker 5: the one that forces fumbles against guys like Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 5: at the one yard line and things like that. So

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Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis is back to form. I'm curious to see

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Speaker 5: specifically what he meant when he said that Zimmer's scheme

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Speaker 5: will allow him to be more impactful because at this

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Speaker 5: point in the NFL, Nicholas base, yes, right, So as

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Speaker 5: a matter three four, four to three, you're going to

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Speaker 5: vary between the two. But Nicholas base, and being that

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Speaker 5: Nickel is based, that means Jordan Lewis is gonna be

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Speaker 5: on the field quite a bit anyway. So I'm interested

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Speaker 5: to see how Zimmer is going to feature him because

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Speaker 5: clearly it was a part of the talking points to

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Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis to keep him in Dallas, because he brought

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Speaker 5: it up when we talked to him.

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Speaker 7: I tell you right here, man, zim scheme is not

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Speaker 7: difficult to learn. A good thing or a thing that's

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Speaker 7: a good thing.

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Speaker 6: He's gonna give you one or two points starting out

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Speaker 6: early that he gonna ask you to do. Basically, stop

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Speaker 6: the run, play a play, great situational football, played the

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Speaker 6: percentages that favor you, and.

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Speaker 7: You'll be okay. You'll be okay.

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Speaker 6: Uh, this freelance and we see thing I thought I

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Speaker 6: saw this, and I think that's where it hurt DQ

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Speaker 6: last year. Is he he gave guys too many options.

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Speaker 6: Uh coach, Uh coach them. Is gonna take away a

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Speaker 6: few options, especially earlier in the year, until you prove

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Speaker 6: to him that you understand what he needs you to do.

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Speaker 6: And once you do that right there, then and only then,

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Speaker 6: well he may give you some leverage to do to

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Speaker 6: do other things. But he's gonna play the percentages. He's

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Speaker 6: gonna be a great situational coach. And I say, we

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Speaker 6: all love d Q, but we saw as the season

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Speaker 6: went on, guys, but I thought that's saw it is.

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Speaker 6: I thought I saw that, Nah, do your job and

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Speaker 6: this thing will click.

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Speaker 5: The only thing I could think of off the top

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Speaker 5: of my head before we see a single practice, which

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Speaker 5: you know, the first one starts here in a couple

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Speaker 5: of hours. If that is that, maybe you might see

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Speaker 5: a little bit more nickel Blitz mixed in and maybe

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Speaker 5: sending Jordan Lewis into the backfield a little bit more often,

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Speaker 5: because he's shown he can impact games when you get

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Speaker 5: him into the backfield as much as he can when

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Speaker 5: he drops in coverage because he can take the ball

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Speaker 5: away with interceptions as well.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely all right, so we're gonna pivot for the last

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Speaker 3: few minutes of Talking Cowboys, your first Talking Cowboys of

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Speaker 3: the season. Bold predictions for training camp. I'm gonna start

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Speaker 3: really quick. I this this one actually might be conservative.

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Speaker 3: I'm asking you guys the bold prediction. But I'm thinking

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Speaker 3: Trey Lance starts the entire first preseason game, does not

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Speaker 3: take off a single snap. That's not bold.

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Speaker 5: I know that's not a spicy I'll let you guys

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Speaker 5: kale all kale is what that is.

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Speaker 3: I'll let you guys hitting capital or what is it?

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Speaker 3: A command? B bold?

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Speaker 1: What do you think of Big Nate?

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Speaker 7: You know what?

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Speaker 6: I can't tell you that. To me, the boldest thing

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Speaker 6: is the Tree Lance thing. I mean, we need to know,

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Speaker 6: we need to know so about Tree Lance. So whatever

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Speaker 6: you do is bold because he came from the forty

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Speaker 6: nine ers, a very coveted hot