1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,777 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, let make 2 00:00:14,777 --> 00:00:17,657 Speaker 1: sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app 3 00:00:17,897 --> 00:00:21,337 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. What is going on 4 00:00:21,857 --> 00:00:24,017 Speaker 1: at the Pentagon? That's a question that a lot of 5 00:00:24,057 --> 00:00:29,217 Speaker 1: people are asking, given the reporting that has been so 6 00:00:30,017 --> 00:00:35,577 Speaker 1: wrong lately, but very strongly suggesting that we're going to 7 00:00:35,617 --> 00:00:37,297 Speaker 1: have a change in the Secretary of Defense. That's not 8 00:00:37,337 --> 00:00:39,457 Speaker 1: going to happen. I told you on radio that's not 9 00:00:39,457 --> 00:00:42,897 Speaker 1: going to happen. But something is up over there. First off, 10 00:00:42,937 --> 00:00:46,697 Speaker 1: let's start with what's an issue here. The media is 11 00:00:46,817 --> 00:00:50,737 Speaker 1: trying to take down Pete Heggs at the Secretary of Defense. 12 00:00:50,857 --> 00:00:57,657 Speaker 1: The Democrat aligned corporate media apparatus wants him gone, which 13 00:00:57,737 --> 00:01:01,057 Speaker 1: is interesting because well, they've always wanted him gone. They 14 00:01:01,457 --> 00:01:04,177 Speaker 1: they tried to destroy him a few times, and he 15 00:01:04,257 --> 00:01:09,697 Speaker 1: has gotten more outrage and more anger from the Democrats 16 00:01:09,697 --> 00:01:13,377 Speaker 1: than any other member of Trump's cabinet. He's the one 17 00:01:13,377 --> 00:01:15,777 Speaker 1: that upsets them the most in his Secretary of Defense. 18 00:01:15,817 --> 00:01:18,137 Speaker 1: Were not even in a war, so you would think 19 00:01:18,177 --> 00:01:21,457 Speaker 1: that it wouldn't be a front and center issue, but 20 00:01:21,857 --> 00:01:25,697 Speaker 1: they're trying to take him down. Well, that's one part 21 00:01:25,737 --> 00:01:27,497 Speaker 1: of this, and they're not going to be successful because 22 00:01:27,497 --> 00:01:31,257 Speaker 1: I think Trump recognizes that if he were to cave 23 00:01:31,857 --> 00:01:34,217 Speaker 1: and give them the scalps, so to speak. Of Pete 24 00:01:34,217 --> 00:01:37,457 Speaker 1: hag Seth, who I've known for now fifteen years. Pete 25 00:01:37,457 --> 00:01:40,137 Speaker 1: and I started doing media right around the same time. 26 00:01:40,857 --> 00:01:45,097 Speaker 1: We came up as guys do doing shows together. Some 27 00:01:45,177 --> 00:01:48,617 Speaker 1: of you might even remember when Pete's first book came out. 28 00:01:48,777 --> 00:01:52,297 Speaker 1: I was at his New York City virtual book signing 29 00:01:52,337 --> 00:01:56,817 Speaker 1: with Kim Gilfoyle. It was Pete me Kim Gilfoyle sitting 30 00:01:56,897 --> 00:01:58,697 Speaker 1: there for a couple hours as he was doing virtual 31 00:01:58,737 --> 00:02:00,457 Speaker 1: signings on books, just to talk to him about the 32 00:02:00,457 --> 00:02:03,257 Speaker 1: book and keep him company basically. So, yeah, I know 33 00:02:03,297 --> 00:02:05,537 Speaker 1: Pete pretty well, and he's Secretary of Defense now and 34 00:02:05,577 --> 00:02:09,097 Speaker 1: I think he's doing an excellent job. They want to 35 00:02:09,137 --> 00:02:13,257 Speaker 1: destroy him, though, have to think, well why is that one? 36 00:02:13,937 --> 00:02:16,457 Speaker 1: They just want to show that they can still get 37 00:02:16,497 --> 00:02:23,097 Speaker 1: a cabinet level official removed from Trump's orbit. The Washington Post, 38 00:02:23,177 --> 00:02:26,057 Speaker 1: The New York Times, CNN. They very much want to 39 00:02:26,097 --> 00:02:27,897 Speaker 1: believe that they still have the kind of power in 40 00:02:27,937 --> 00:02:32,257 Speaker 1: the conversation to force out somebody who is a Senate 41 00:02:32,337 --> 00:02:35,057 Speaker 1: confirmed cabinet pick of one of the big what I 42 00:02:35,097 --> 00:02:39,737 Speaker 1: would consider the big three government cabinet position Secretary of State, 43 00:02:39,817 --> 00:02:44,337 Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense, and Treasury secretary. Those are the big three. 44 00:02:44,737 --> 00:02:48,097 Speaker 1: And I think that they view it as the beginning 45 00:02:48,137 --> 00:02:50,217 Speaker 1: of many others that they would push for if they 46 00:02:50,217 --> 00:02:53,777 Speaker 1: were successful in getting rid of Pete. That's one part 47 00:02:53,777 --> 00:02:56,697 Speaker 1: of this. They also hate that he has gone after 48 00:02:56,897 --> 00:03:03,857 Speaker 1: DEI and the absurdity that was festering inside of our 49 00:03:03,977 --> 00:03:11,817 Speaker 1: defense department. They feel like this is completely going into 50 00:03:12,137 --> 00:03:18,337 Speaker 1: what they had built as this lunacy factory. Right, so 51 00:03:18,537 --> 00:03:23,257 Speaker 1: they've decided that Pete hag Seth is enemy number one 52 00:03:23,297 --> 00:03:25,977 Speaker 1: for them on a whole range of fronts. Then there's 53 00:03:25,977 --> 00:03:28,537 Speaker 1: another piece of this that I think is interesting, and 54 00:03:28,577 --> 00:03:32,177 Speaker 1: I hear about this from some of the people not 55 00:03:32,377 --> 00:03:35,377 Speaker 1: directly involved, but let's say a person removed from it, 56 00:03:35,937 --> 00:03:40,657 Speaker 1: that there is, even on the right, a real debate 57 00:03:40,857 --> 00:03:45,857 Speaker 1: underway at the top echelons of the national security apparatus. 58 00:03:46,857 --> 00:03:50,697 Speaker 1: There's a real debate underway about what to do about 59 00:03:50,697 --> 00:03:57,697 Speaker 1: the Iran issue. And there are people who want to 60 00:03:57,737 --> 00:04:03,417 Speaker 1: see a US backing for an Israeli strike. There are 61 00:04:03,457 --> 00:04:05,977 Speaker 1: some people who think that maybe even America should take 62 00:04:06,017 --> 00:04:09,177 Speaker 1: part in a strike two. And then there are people 63 00:04:09,177 --> 00:04:11,457 Speaker 1: who say, no, we want to avoid this because we 64 00:04:12,137 --> 00:04:17,497 Speaker 1: absolutely do not want to be drawn into a situation 65 00:04:17,657 --> 00:04:21,777 Speaker 1: where we have to go to war with Iran. And 66 00:04:21,897 --> 00:04:27,297 Speaker 1: so there's a bit of leaking and gamesmanship that's going 67 00:04:27,297 --> 00:04:30,097 Speaker 1: on in the press, I think because people are positioning 68 00:04:30,177 --> 00:04:34,297 Speaker 1: themselves on this issue with that in mind, they're trying 69 00:04:34,337 --> 00:04:37,977 Speaker 1: to find a way to undermine those that they believe 70 00:04:38,017 --> 00:04:41,377 Speaker 1: at the top reaches of the Pentagon aren't aligned with 71 00:04:41,497 --> 00:04:44,097 Speaker 1: what they think. And when you're talking about something that 72 00:04:44,177 --> 00:04:48,497 Speaker 1: has those kind of ramifications for the country, true war 73 00:04:48,617 --> 00:04:55,537 Speaker 1: and peace, very you know, this is the highest of stakes. 74 00:04:56,377 --> 00:04:58,737 Speaker 1: I think it's easy for any individual to start to 75 00:04:59,657 --> 00:05:03,697 Speaker 1: justify playing a little bit dirty and maybe even dirty 76 00:05:03,697 --> 00:05:06,017 Speaker 1: on their own side, maybe even going after people they 77 00:05:06,017 --> 00:05:08,337 Speaker 1: agree with on those things. But on this issue, it's 78 00:05:08,457 --> 00:05:11,937 Speaker 1: so important to have alignment on how the US approaches 79 00:05:11,937 --> 00:05:15,377 Speaker 1: are on in Israel that everything else can be considered secondary. 80 00:05:15,417 --> 00:05:19,857 Speaker 1: So I do think that that is a part of this. 81 00:05:20,137 --> 00:05:26,577 Speaker 1: I do think that that is something that is at 82 00:05:26,657 --> 00:05:30,097 Speaker 1: issue here. And then when you look at leaks, look 83 00:05:30,377 --> 00:05:32,617 Speaker 1: if this is going on, if people around the Secretary 84 00:05:32,577 --> 00:05:35,617 Speaker 1: of Defense are leaking and they're leaking anything that could 85 00:05:35,657 --> 00:05:40,897 Speaker 1: be classified information. I mean, that's a serious issue because 86 00:05:40,937 --> 00:05:44,857 Speaker 1: you need to have the ability to trust the people, 87 00:05:44,977 --> 00:05:47,057 Speaker 1: not just to trust them as a secuary defense, but 88 00:05:47,097 --> 00:05:49,857 Speaker 1: we the American people need to trust that those who 89 00:05:49,897 --> 00:05:54,977 Speaker 1: have sensitive war plans, for example, aren't speaking too loosely 90 00:05:55,017 --> 00:05:57,097 Speaker 1: about or speaking loosely about them at all with those 91 00:05:57,137 --> 00:06:00,897 Speaker 1: who don't have a need to know. National security secrecy 92 00:06:00,897 --> 00:06:03,937 Speaker 1: has taken a real hit in recent years and really 93 00:06:03,977 --> 00:06:08,857 Speaker 1: stretching back now for I think going back to the 94 00:06:08,857 --> 00:06:12,297 Speaker 1: Bush administration, because if you remember during the Bush years, 95 00:06:12,737 --> 00:06:15,857 Speaker 1: there were a lot of national security leagues from inside 96 00:06:15,897 --> 00:06:19,497 Speaker 1: of the national security apparatus that were political in nature 97 00:06:19,657 --> 00:06:22,497 Speaker 1: and very sensitive information getting out there to try to 98 00:06:22,537 --> 00:06:26,377 Speaker 1: hurt Bush. And I don't remember that happening during Clinton. 99 00:06:26,417 --> 00:06:28,337 Speaker 1: I was very young. But I think it's created this 100 00:06:28,577 --> 00:06:32,857 Speaker 1: precedent where now people think, if I have to speak 101 00:06:32,857 --> 00:06:34,857 Speaker 1: out of school on something and maybe even break the 102 00:06:34,937 --> 00:06:38,417 Speaker 1: law to do it, as long as I'm doing it 103 00:06:38,457 --> 00:06:41,217 Speaker 1: for the right reasons, there's some sort of greater justification 104 00:06:41,297 --> 00:06:45,217 Speaker 1: for that. So that's that's I think a part of this. 105 00:06:45,977 --> 00:06:50,777 Speaker 1: And you know, they also I think they hate Pete 106 00:06:50,777 --> 00:06:55,017 Speaker 1: Hegseeth because he's so closely aligned with Trump. 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Absolutely, he's never managed an organization. I mean, 157 00:09:53,057 --> 00:09:55,617 Speaker 1: I think if you're a world class manager of the Pentagon, 158 00:09:55,737 --> 00:09:59,457 Speaker 1: is probably very challenging for you. But yes, I think 159 00:09:59,457 --> 00:10:03,377 Speaker 1: that there's reason to continue to hold the line with 160 00:10:03,457 --> 00:10:05,537 Speaker 1: Pete here, and I think Trump's going to do so 161 00:10:06,297 --> 00:10:09,017 Speaker 1: and look forward to seeing what he's able to accomplish there. 162 00:10:09,057 --> 00:10:13,617 Speaker 1: All right now, on the tariffs, so Trump has said 163 00:10:13,657 --> 00:10:15,377 Speaker 1: he's gonna be nice. He's gonna be a little nice 164 00:10:16,097 --> 00:10:19,857 Speaker 1: to China, a little nice to China. He's gonna scale 165 00:10:19,857 --> 00:10:23,057 Speaker 1: things down a bit. Yeah, this is called negotiation. I 166 00:10:23,097 --> 00:10:28,617 Speaker 1: don't know why they in the media believe that anyone 167 00:10:28,697 --> 00:10:32,937 Speaker 1: should be assessing how successful or not successful Trump is 168 00:10:33,017 --> 00:10:36,497 Speaker 1: on the teriff issue when it's still ongoing. You know, 169 00:10:36,577 --> 00:10:39,577 Speaker 1: if I started to tell you how well a quarterback 170 00:10:39,657 --> 00:10:44,217 Speaker 1: played after the first quarter of the Super Bowl, you 171 00:10:44,257 --> 00:10:46,777 Speaker 1: would say, well, hold on a second, we've only seen 172 00:10:46,817 --> 00:10:50,137 Speaker 1: a quarter. You can't you can't know whether he had 173 00:10:50,137 --> 00:10:52,897 Speaker 1: a good game or not. That's exactly what's going on 174 00:10:52,977 --> 00:10:54,537 Speaker 1: now with the media. They're saying, Oh, but yeah, the 175 00:10:54,537 --> 00:10:56,777 Speaker 1: stock markets up, the stock markets down. Yeah, of course, 176 00:10:57,577 --> 00:11:00,257 Speaker 1: that's a lot of people engaged in speculation, trying to 177 00:11:00,897 --> 00:11:03,497 Speaker 1: gauge in the short term what they think the market 178 00:11:03,577 --> 00:11:05,937 Speaker 1: is going to be doing. A lot of people sloshing 179 00:11:06,017 --> 00:11:11,777 Speaker 1: money around. But this is about the long term structural 180 00:11:12,097 --> 00:11:16,177 Speaker 1: health of the economy, and it's about addressing things that 181 00:11:16,217 --> 00:11:19,417 Speaker 1: are difficult and complicated, like the trade war that has 182 00:11:19,457 --> 00:11:21,977 Speaker 1: been ongoing with China for a long time, because China 183 00:11:22,017 --> 00:11:24,377 Speaker 1: has a trade war against us, whether we want to 184 00:11:24,417 --> 00:11:27,417 Speaker 1: admit that and accept that or not. And so Trump 185 00:11:27,697 --> 00:11:29,977 Speaker 1: now is trying to write this he's the only one 186 00:11:29,977 --> 00:11:33,937 Speaker 1: who will do anything about this. Every other president, Republican Democrat, 187 00:11:33,977 --> 00:11:37,697 Speaker 1: won't touch this issue. Trump will actually try to, if 188 00:11:37,737 --> 00:11:40,377 Speaker 1: not solve it, make it better. And he wants to 189 00:11:40,377 --> 00:11:44,257 Speaker 1: sit down with she. He wants to have that mono emano, 190 00:11:45,097 --> 00:11:49,377 Speaker 1: you know, face off. And I totally understand one. He 191 00:11:49,497 --> 00:11:53,217 Speaker 1: just likes the he likes the showmanship of it. I mean, 192 00:11:53,217 --> 00:11:54,977 Speaker 1: this is who Trump is. But also I think he 193 00:11:55,097 --> 00:11:59,537 Speaker 1: believes that he's going to be in a position to 194 00:11:59,577 --> 00:12:01,337 Speaker 1: turn around and say, the American people, see what I 195 00:12:01,417 --> 00:12:04,217 Speaker 1: got for you. You know, he doesn't have to do this. 196 00:12:04,297 --> 00:12:06,057 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be president even right, I mean, 197 00:12:06,097 --> 00:12:07,737 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to do any of this, but he 198 00:12:07,897 --> 00:12:10,857 Speaker 1: chose to do it, and he doesn't have to take 199 00:12:10,937 --> 00:12:14,617 Speaker 1: on this difficult challenge of trade. But he's doing it 200 00:12:14,737 --> 00:12:18,977 Speaker 1: because he thinks he can get better deals, a better 201 00:12:19,057 --> 00:12:22,137 Speaker 1: structure for us. And there have to be carrots and 202 00:12:22,177 --> 00:12:24,257 Speaker 1: sticks in these kind of things. It can't just be 203 00:12:24,617 --> 00:12:26,817 Speaker 1: I'll give you whatever you want China, or I'll give 204 00:12:26,857 --> 00:12:29,257 Speaker 1: the EU or any of our neighbors or allies whatever 205 00:12:29,297 --> 00:12:32,697 Speaker 1: it is that they want. Mind you, they all have tariffs. 206 00:12:33,977 --> 00:12:36,697 Speaker 1: And if tariffs are so horrible, explain to me why 207 00:12:37,297 --> 00:12:41,297 Speaker 1: Joe Biden left tariffs that Trump put in place on 208 00:12:41,417 --> 00:12:46,177 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty billion dollars of goods. I want 209 00:12:46,177 --> 00:12:49,577 Speaker 1: to repeat that Trump comes in first term, not this term. 210 00:12:49,617 --> 00:12:52,617 Speaker 1: First term says China's ripping us off. This is garbage 211 00:12:52,657 --> 00:12:54,737 Speaker 1: we're putting there. Then they've got all kinds of tariffs 212 00:12:54,777 --> 00:12:58,137 Speaker 1: on us. Let's put some tariffs on them. And then 213 00:12:58,337 --> 00:13:02,057 Speaker 1: Joe Biden becomes president. Boo, I know. But he becomes 214 00:13:02,057 --> 00:13:08,297 Speaker 1: president and he doesn't abandon the Trump tariffs on China. 215 00:13:08,337 --> 00:13:11,977 Speaker 1: He leaves them. Well, if it's so terrible, why wouldn't 216 00:13:11,977 --> 00:13:16,017 Speaker 1: he switch it? Right? You're starting to see a pattern here. 217 00:13:16,017 --> 00:13:19,137 Speaker 1: You're starting to see that the so called consensus is wrong, wrong, 218 00:13:19,217 --> 00:13:21,537 Speaker 1: and wrong again when it comes to these things. And 219 00:13:21,897 --> 00:13:24,417 Speaker 1: let's just see where Trump can take this. It is 220 00:13:24,577 --> 00:13:27,657 Speaker 1: a live deal. We don't know anything yet because it's 221 00:13:27,697 --> 00:13:31,657 Speaker 1: not done yet. 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