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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff Mom Never told you?

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Speaker 1: From House top Works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Kristen, I'm Molly. So Molly, you know

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Speaker 1: you and I both enjoy the tabloid magazine every now

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Speaker 1: and then, I think I think that's safe to admit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've read a lot of we read a lot of

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Speaker 1: research and very books, credible information, and every now and then,

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Speaker 1: you know, we just need a little little brain relief

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Speaker 1: in the form of tabloids. And I think one of

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Speaker 1: our favorite parts of tabloids, if I may speak for you, Molly,

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Speaker 1: the celebrity photo analysis of the body language body language analysis. Yes,

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Speaker 1: this couple really in love? Or are they headed for Splitsville? Right?

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Speaker 1: Justin Timber Like Jessica Bill sitting at the Nicks game.

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Speaker 1: He's turned away, she's looking forward. Doesn't look very good.

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Speaker 1: I know. I love that because I feel like it

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Speaker 1: is just I mean, it's there. They are random photographs

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Speaker 1: taken you know, to random moment in time. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: so I think they're total bunk. I like to believe

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Speaker 1: in them. Yeah, you put full stock in that. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know that they always make a really good case

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Speaker 1: that's that's what they always come that's the conclusion, that's

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Speaker 1: the worst conclusion a celebrity couple could hear in their

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Speaker 1: photo analysis is they are not in sync. They shall

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Speaker 1: not last. Yeah, they need some synchronization. Um. So we

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Speaker 1: decided to do a little bit of research on body

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Speaker 1: all of this, if our if our bodies really do

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Speaker 1: communicate what's going on in our hearts and minds. And

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Speaker 1: the first thing that I ran across was a recent

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Speaker 1: article in New York Time m spinad Lang here about

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Speaker 1: a field of study, pretty robust field of study now

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Speaker 1: called embodied cognition, which is basically the concept that your

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Speaker 1: brain we we communicate what's going on in our brain

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Speaker 1: and how we process language through physical movement. Like there

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Speaker 1: when they were asked to project on the future their

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Speaker 1: examples of ways that your body just is affecting your

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Speaker 1: one the example from this article about students who are

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Speaker 1: and the beverages they held corresponded with their opinion of

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Speaker 1: the person. So if they were holding, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: And similarly than a related study, the participants were asked

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Speaker 1: And so he developed these things called Laban movement analyzes,

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Speaker 1: hours of training to become a laban certified movement analyst.

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Speaker 1: But really, I think that a lot of body language

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Speaker 1: my mom always did tell me is in a job

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Speaker 1: interview to always go in and have a nice, firm handshake.

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Speaker 1: But what was interesting to me is we were looking

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Speaker 1: So the limp handshake, it's not so much a matter

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Speaker 1: probably haven't gotten the hand to hand contact. That's what's

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Speaker 1: want to create that distance. No, I want to Sam,

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Speaker 1: I'm here and I'm open. I'm here. I will do

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Speaker 1: great example of when body language is really important, eye contact.

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Speaker 1: It's all about eye contact. You don't want to be

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Speaker 1: because then that just gets uncomfortable. But you definitely want

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Speaker 1: to maintain eye contact like I'm doing with you right now.

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Speaker 1: things you'll hear about in those tabloid photo spreads who

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Speaker 1: should be you walking in sync? People, I hope you

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Speaker 1: have decided who was keeping all the jewelry and bling.

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Speaker 1: Because you are not, you shall not last. But Molly,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about established couples, true, who may or may

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Speaker 1: far more important role with initial attraction. So shifting gears here.

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Speaker 1: So let's back up to those days of first dates,

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Speaker 1: the bar looking to meet some people? Normally, I think

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Speaker 1: heterosexual relationship initiation processes, or as I have decided to

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Speaker 1: So how are we going to start the a trip? Well,

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Speaker 1: Full a head can't is basically the slow tilt of

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