1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: You're about to listen to the Late Round Fantasy Football show, 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: which originally aired on YouTube. If you'd like to catch 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: the show live this offseason, you can head to the 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Late Round Fantasy Football YouTube channel YouTube dot com. Slash 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: at Late Round FF will be live each Wednesday at 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: noon Eastern without further ado. 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: Here's this week's episode. 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 3: Welcome in. Welcome in. David Kitchen. 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 4: Mirror, employee of Late Rounds Media, here with JJ, the 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 4: guy who started the Late Round Media brand. JJ. 11 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: That's what we say. 12 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to pull up the tweet of the critique 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: that we got and I want to I'm pulling it 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: up because I want to uh yeah, here it is ready. 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: I want to address this straight on. I don't want 16 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: to hide from what people are saying out there. Right 17 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: says This is from at Legs Benny on Twitter. 18 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: Love the Late Round QB. 19 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: At Late Round QB podcast, thanks as I do in 20 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: the mallbeg episodes, but please stop dropping your titles in 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: the open. It's so cringe and navel gazing. I'm the 22 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: CEO and he's the CEO. Literally no one else does this, 23 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: and it's for a reason. We don't care that you 24 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: are a C suite in your three man company. 25 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: Loll love you guys. 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: All right, we're addressing this, guys, We're not we're not 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: being serious with that intro. Well, we know, we're fully 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: aware that we are a three person company, and we 29 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: are not saying this y a brag about being sea 30 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: level employees. 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: What kitchen is? Uh this three person company? 32 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm saying I. I mean, JJ, I'm dead serious. 33 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 4: I say, just in case my mom is tuning in 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 4: and he's like, that's my boy. 35 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: Uh So yeah, No, I just look, I know that 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: like when feedback comes in the way, my where my 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: brain goes is always like, oh my god. I hope 38 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: that no one else is thinking this, you know, And 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: so I'll try to quote tweet it and just like 40 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: address it just that people are on the same page 41 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: and know and similar to like any analysis that I do. 42 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: And with this, guys, please don't take it seriously. Please don't. 43 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: Now we're gonna have to lean into it more too, 44 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: but don't take it seriously. This is not a very 45 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: This is not a serious show. We're not doing anything 46 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: incredibly important. We're just talking ball. We're just talking fantasy football. 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: And this show in particular, is more casual than what 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: you're gonna get with the intense Late Round podcast at times. 49 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like when. 50 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 4: JJ does the mailbag episode, you know, and he does 51 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 4: the thanks for tuning in is a little different, you know. 52 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, You've got to think sometimes things are just. 53 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: A tad bit, you know, just more casual, more relaxed. 54 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: So jaj I, I said, I would be your left 55 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 4: hand man or your right hand man. Godula and I 56 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: would have to fight over you know which which title, 57 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: But then people would think that you had issues with 58 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 4: your hands and you needed you needed help. 59 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean also, I'm just like I got 60 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: away from all of that just so you guys. 61 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: Know, you know, and and and uh, to be. 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: Transparent here, I I left all of that to start 63 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: this company because I cannot say, you know, my wife 64 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: still works in corporate and she doesn't you know, she 65 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: likes her job, and it's I it just turns me 66 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: off beyond belief, Like I do not want to care 67 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: or put any thoughts into titles. I cannot even explain 68 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: to you guys how just stupid all of that is 69 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: to me. 70 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love the when you have a new title 71 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 4: and it's like you get a you get a promotion 72 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 4: in name only or in title only. 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: That was always my favorite. Yeah, I would pay you anymore. 74 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: But but now we're gonna call you something different and 75 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna be really cool. 76 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 4: You know you're gonna update. We just reorged and you 77 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 4: get to update your LinkedIn congrats. 78 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 2: Well you're gonna have the same title here for a while. 79 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: So that's just the way. 80 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, better than Tyler email Cowboys says he gets his 81 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 4: Analytics Senior Support title. He wants to know when he 82 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: gets that. Sorry, Tyler, it might be a while for that. 83 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: I will say we've had some reviews come in already 84 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 4: from the late round Prospect Guy, JJ, good stuff. 85 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 3: People are saying good things. You should feel. 86 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: Good about all the work you did, all those late 87 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: nights you did because people enjoy it and they have. 88 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: We have one hundred and seventy something pages of content 89 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 4: for this year's Prospect Guide. 90 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm proud of it. I think it's the best 91 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: one yet. The addition to Brandon doing all the tight 92 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: end write ups and us working on that model this offseason, 93 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna. 94 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: Hopefully yield good results as well. But yeah, I mean 95 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: like it was. 96 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: It's always a fun project to put together and it's 97 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: always a really nice. 98 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: Thing to finish and feel good about afterwards. 99 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, one O six streets says, I'm not a rankings guy, 100 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: but I love the green page with the different tiers 101 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 4: qualitative tiers. I don't know if the last tiers were 102 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 4: supposed to be if it was misspelled on purpose, but 103 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: I will say that the green page was last year, 104 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: was additioned from last year. And the green page also 105 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: has links that you can go straight to that Prospects profile. 106 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: Love it, so the page is a good page. 107 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 4: Also, as a reminder, you can subscribe to our Patreon 108 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: and join in on the You know, we have Dynasty 109 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 4: talk right now, we have JJ hopping in different chats 110 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 4: and and talking ball. We have the n C Double 111 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 4: A brackets. 112 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: Who's in second in the oh? 113 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 4: No, I was in first after after that first round. 114 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 4: That's that's all. 115 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: I We might all matters as we know. As we know, 116 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 2: polls are one. 117 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: You know you have a great breath, and by how 118 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: well they do after day one of the NCAA tournament, 119 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: for sure. 120 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 4: You gotta you got a victory lap. Why you can 121 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: victory lap so yeah, things things are getting interesting in 122 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 4: the March Madness Late Rounders bracket and h we're just 123 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 4: having a good time. 124 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: In the discord JJ, this is like, this is the 125 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 3: column before the storm. 126 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of Pocopia going on in the Zacharyason household. 127 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: Also sign up for their Late Round newsletter if you 128 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 4: haven't already, because speaking of is it Pocopia or Pokemopia? 129 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: Okay, but what do you put pocopia? Catch and get 130 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: it right? Okay? 131 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't know pokemo Mopia. I didn't know, Like, 132 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 4: is pocopia. 133 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: And it's and it's honestly, guys, I'm saying it as 134 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: a grown man with children and in a company. Pocopia 135 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: is a ten out of ten game. It is un 136 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: believable and anyone can play. Your kid can play, My 137 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: kids play with me. It's a perfect bonding experience. 138 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: It's perfect. It's a great game. 139 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 4: When I read the intro this morning to the the newsletter, 140 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 4: I thought, I wonder what other people are thinking, because 141 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 4: I know, JJ, Yeah. 142 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: I know, I oh yeah, other people. 143 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: That's why I like to just throw stuff out there, 144 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: like I am going to unapologetically be like who I am. 145 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't care if people. 146 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: Judge me for liking a Pokemon game. I haven't played 147 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: Pokemon since I was little. But if you're gonna judge 148 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: me for playing this, go look at any review of 149 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: this game, and it's getting unbelievable reviews because it's. 150 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: An unbelievable game. Okay, I don't care. I'll go. You 151 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: know what else I'm doing. I've been doing a lot recently. 152 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that that people can judge all day while 153 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: while my daughter and son go for bike rides, I 154 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: rollerblade with them. 155 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: Really, I rollerblade with them. Yeah, that was a fair reaction. 156 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: At first it was like, I'm gonna make fun of you, 157 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: and then it was, oh, that's cute. 158 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: Yes, it's like I do you do you wear a helmet? 159 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: No, knee pads? No? 160 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: But my no, like the like literally, two weekends ago, 161 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: my daughter, who's seven, uh we she's in second grade. 162 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: We we we went five miles. I was rollerblading. 163 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: I went I wrote a rollerblade for five miles while 164 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: she was on the bike. 165 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: It was a great bonding time. 166 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: Bonding experience was five miles on rollerblades. 167 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: The real problem is I used to play this rollerblading 168 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: game on Sega back in the day, just to bring 169 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: it back to video games, and it was called skitching. Okay, 170 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: maybe one person in Chad has ever heard of this. 171 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: Skitching is when you're a rollerblader. I learned it's more 172 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: than rollerblading. You can be a skateboarder or whatever the 173 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: case may be. 174 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: And you you you. 175 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: Grab onto a car and you while you're on that device, 176 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: and you're able to hitch a ride, you know, from 177 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: that car. And so the video game was just all 178 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: about grabbing onto cars and punching enemies while you were rollerblading. 179 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: But it was like Sega, so it was you know, 180 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 2: two D and it was you know yeah. 181 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: So the problem is that every time I get on 182 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: my rollerblades, I just want to go skitching and then 183 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,119 Speaker 1: start riding around the neighborhood. 184 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: They used to call me a snitching kitchen back in 185 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 4: the day. 186 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: No, that's not surprising. All right, let's get into these 187 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: news items. This is Look, it's the off season. I 188 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: know we're talking about nothing right now, but let's talk 189 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: some news. 190 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 4: Today's fantasy news. Wait till you see the news items. 191 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: Let's talk about more important things like Elijah Moore going. 192 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 4: To the Eagles, So we don't know what's happening with 193 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: aj Brown right now. 194 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: You know, apparently he's still staying with the Eagles. 195 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 4: However, the Eagles just decided to make all these moves 196 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: this week when no one else was making moves. So 197 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 4: last week we had a ton to talk about. This 198 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: week not so much. Here's what we do have. Elijah 199 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: Moore signed a one year deal with the Eagles, Damian 200 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 4: Pierce signed a deal with the Eagles, and Andy Dalton 201 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 4: I think he was traded to the Eagles. So those 202 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 4: are all the Eagles stuff. Other than that, it's like 203 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 4: Zach Wilson, like back up Joe Flacco resigning. 204 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: There is I mean, you didn't throw the most important 205 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: news I'm here on here and that's Pokin Nakua biting somebody. 206 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: Evidently. 207 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: I didn't know if we wanted to put that up. 208 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know we shouldn't. 209 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean, let's just I'm gonna leave it at like 210 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: it's one of those offs off the field sit like 211 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: personas now not just situation to monitor because he's been 212 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: involved in a lot of different stuff and that is pertinent, 213 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: Like it is something that we have to worry about 214 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: in dynasty, you know, just like what I actually. 215 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 4: Thought about that as a pukin Akua owner, like it, like, 216 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: is the asset becoming too like volatile? I don't like. 217 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: I mean, like, and there's a lot of rumors about 218 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: them wanting to trade for a J. Brown, And I've 219 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: seen some reporters even hint that like maybe there's a 220 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: tie to this. 221 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: I don't think there is. 222 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: Like my personal opinion is, you know, hopefully he's not 223 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: doing anything like egregious, like hopefully this is like not 224 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: real or or you know, whatever the case may be. 225 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to say something that I don't know 226 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: the the information enough about, but hopefully this is like 227 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: the extent of where things go with Pukakua. But yeah, 228 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: I mean like they they've been they've been linked to 229 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: a lot of wide They need a young wide receiver 230 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: on that team because they don't really have that much 231 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: depth outside of Puka and so like long term depth. 232 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I thought he might be on this, 233 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: but I understand the decision to not throw Pokin on this. 234 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: Yeah we're talking about I also left off Jsn's extension, 235 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 4: Like I don't think we want to get into like extensions. 236 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: No, and it's like what else they gonna do? Yeah, 237 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: let's just talk the Eagles. The The only interesting part 238 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: of this because I don't even know if Damian Pierce 239 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: is going to make the team, right, because they have 240 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: they have Shipley, and they have Tank Bigsby. But the 241 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: one interesting piece is is Elijah Moore. And I only 242 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: say that because he's very good friends with A. J. 243 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 3: Brown. 244 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: Uh, you know, they're the there go back, it goes 245 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: back to college days. Yeah, yeah, when they had that 246 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: crazy you know, like the DK Metcalf there too, and 247 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: they're I'm pretty sure I don't want to misspeak, but 248 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm fairly certain that Elijah Moore was very helpful 249 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: for A. J. Brown during a massive mental health crisis 250 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: for him. And I'm not saying that like I'm just 251 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: looking at this trying to connect the dots and saying, 252 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, are the Eagles doing this out of like 253 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: trying to keep AJ Brown around by getting a good 254 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: friend there and to to or or are they doing 255 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: this because they actually want that depth because they did 256 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: get Hollywood Brown too, and so you know, I've always 257 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: been an Elijah Moore guy from the standpoint of like 258 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: I thought that he was a pretty good prospect. I 259 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: think in hindsight, I wouldn't have been as aggressive with 260 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: the way that I felt about Elijah Moore the way 261 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: that I prospect now and knowing what, like, you know, 262 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: some of the deeper details of slot rates and stuff 263 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: and how that correlates and the data that we've gotten 264 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: over the last handful of years to kind of be 265 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: able to dig into that more. With that being said, 266 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: I think that's what I'm reading into this more from 267 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: like a fantasy perspective, is like. 268 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: What if this is a move of some sort to 269 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: keep AJ Brown around? 270 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: I think we should at least consider that, you know, 271 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: because there are such strong rumors of AJ Brown no 272 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: longer being an Eagle. 273 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 4: Yeah. I in the last year's DraftKings best ball stuff, 274 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 4: I took a lot of Elijah Moore, like in the 275 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: twentieth rounds, remember the case, just in case he was Josh. 276 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 3: Allen's guy and he did get on the field, so 277 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: he just was not that valuable. Yeah, I mean did 278 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: he get cut like during the season is I. 279 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: Can't remember his whole situation, but his his uh early 280 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: career stuff, like his rookie season was phenomenal and he 281 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: was really good on the outside and it was like, Wow, 282 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: this is really going to translate for him, and then 283 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: it just didn't. 284 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, we still have this list, like I put this 285 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 4: list up last week as far as fantasy relevant guys, 286 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 4: dads have unsigned, and literally none of them have signed 287 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 4: since last week. 288 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, like we said last week, you 289 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: get veterans, they usually just kind of wait and find 290 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: the right spot for themselves. 291 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 4: So it's interesting. You know, we have heard some rumors 292 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 4: as far as like David and Joku to the Titans, 293 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers. 294 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna resign, and then Kirk Cousins. 295 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: Someone said he might be a like a backup to 296 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 4: Jordan Love. I think that that was a a piece 297 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 4: from The Athletic that came out this week. So that's 298 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 4: uh that that's what we have for today's news JJ. 299 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: Are you happy? 300 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's fun. You want to talk about Skitchen some. 301 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 4: More today's data that'll answer that we've got this draft 302 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 4: class versus the twenty eleven through twenty twenty five draft class. 303 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what I did this is from the newsletter, 304 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: and actually there was a question that I started that 305 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to get back to this from k crash 306 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: five on here on YouTube. K crash five said, this 307 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: year's rookie class people been saying it's a week class. 308 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm concerned that with the new grading system and the prospect, 309 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: I might be double counting how bad this class is 310 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: punt completely. So that's why I put together this in 311 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: the newsletter today and I broke it down a little bit. 312 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: I'll basically just kind of regurgitate some of the stuff 313 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: that was in that newsletter because I think it's just 314 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: an important thing to talk about. But what this looks 315 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: at is each of the three positions that we have 316 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: this zapp model for so running back, wide receiver, and 317 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: tight end, and it looks at the average number of 318 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: players in each category, so legendary performer all the way 319 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: down to dart throw from twenty eleven to twenty twenty five, 320 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: and it compares that to the twenty twenty six draft class. 321 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: So let me give you an example. The legendary performer 322 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: running back has a point. 323 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: Four in that cell. 324 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: What that's saying is that we know that in this 325 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: class we have one legendary performer. 326 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: That's Jeremiah Love. 327 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: Right, So that's one, which means there's point six on 328 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: average per class. There's not many legendary performer running backs, 329 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: just because you know, I mean the category is just 330 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: to be clear, the categories are just a quick way 331 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: for me to speak about these guys and to give 332 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: context to what the ZAP scores are actually saying the 333 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: categories themselves. It's not like there's a giant like break 334 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: from a guy who is in the Legendary Performer category 335 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: at a score of ninety one to a guy in 336 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: the Elite Producer category with a score of eighty nine, right, 337 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: because because ninety is where that that transition occurs. It's 338 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: just a general way to bucket these guys, to allow you, 339 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, people who are consuming this to kind of 340 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: see what that ZAP score means. 341 00:16:59,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: Now. 342 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: I have that mail bag answer from last week about 343 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: publishing scores and talking about the changing of the way 344 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: the system is generated and stuff, so this chart should 345 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: help with that a little bit to contextualize some of 346 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: this stuff. But also nothing, I just want to reiterate 347 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: nothing in this a model. Even though the scaling changed, 348 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: the way that I'm calculating things has not changed. So 349 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: the scaling change for all previous draft classes too, and 350 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: you can look at the categories from last year, for instance, 351 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: to get a general idea of where those because the 352 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: categories are generally generally still the same. You know, I'm 353 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: iterating the models every year anyway, so the scores aren't 354 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: going to be identical from one year to the next. 355 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: But what this is. 356 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: Showing is that running back has point four more legendary 357 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: performers than usual, it has one fewer elite producer than usual, 358 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: and then it has basically the same number of weekly starters. 359 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: But then every other category is lower flex play, benchwarmer, waiver, 360 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: wire at in dartthrow. Now, I do want to say 361 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: that this is going to be influenced by the number 362 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: of players that went to the combine. So only twenty 363 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: running backs and really nineteen because one was considered a fullback, 364 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: or twenty one running backs, one was a fullback. And 365 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: then there's Eli heyden Wright, who's basically a slot receiver 366 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: went to the combine, so that's a low number. Twenty 367 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: is a low number at that position. So naturally that's 368 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: why we see so many fewer dart throws because when 369 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: you add on if they were to have twenty seven guys, 370 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: and that dart through number would look the exact same 371 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: as other seasons. 372 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: But I will. 373 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 1: Say if you have fewer players going to the combine, 374 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: that's probably indicative of not a great class in general, 375 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: right And so that's why I think you can look 376 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: at this and say running back is probably weaker than usual. 377 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: Wide receiver, we don't have the same top end talent 378 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: as we typically do, but we have a lot of depth. 379 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,239 Speaker 1: And I talk about that in the newsletter, where you know, 380 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: the wide receiver profiles this year are averaged to above average. 381 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: They're not elite by any means. 382 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: There's just so many of them, and I say so 383 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: many of them because they're being boosted by draft capital 384 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: right now, right now. According to NFL mock Draft database, 385 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: we have a eleven wide receivers going Day two essentially, 386 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: which is would be the highest that we've had since 387 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, so like tied for the highest. So what 388 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: that tells you is that we're going to get a 389 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: lot of these weekly starter, flex play benchwarmer type players 390 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: you know in this class. So I think someone's going 391 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: to emerge from Day two that we might not expect 392 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: to emerge or someone's going to emerge who you know, 393 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: has like a not amazing product age adjustin production profile, 394 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: but it's probably gonna happen just by sheer number, right, 395 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: And we had a decent number of guys forty six 396 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: wide receivers at the combine and then tight end. We 397 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: had a ton of tight ends at the combine, as 398 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: we know, I think it was the highest number since 399 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: two thousand and four. And so across the board we 400 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: have more legendary performers. We have about the same number 401 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: of elite producers, and then more flex plays, bench warmers, 402 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: waiver wire adds. 403 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: Dart throws. Where we don't have is the weekly starter category. 404 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: So the way that Brandon and I have the model 405 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: set up right now is that you get legendary performer 406 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: in Kenyan Sidik spoiler alert. You know Eli Stowers if 407 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: his eight I mean, look, Eli Stowers is only worse 408 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: than Kenyon Sadik from a modeling perspective because of a 409 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: difference in draft capital. If the draft capital was not 410 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: like I think, Eli Stowers has a better production profile 411 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 1: than Kenyon Sadik. 412 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: He won the Mackie Award. 413 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, and he's he's you know, as we know, 414 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: a pseudo friend of the show because he went to 415 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: Vandy and so. 416 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: He's an elite producer right now. 417 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be a legendary performer 418 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: because I don't think we're going to see like top fifteen, 419 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: top twenty draft capital from him. 420 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: But he's a good prospect, like I talked about this. 421 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: In the Mailbag episode last week, and I do think 422 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: that there's a chance that he goes higher than what 423 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: was being projected when we launched the prospect Guide. But 424 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: tight end is again it's kind of like wide receiver 425 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: where there's just like a lot of dudes who I'm 426 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: not going to be surprised. They have decent athletic profiles 427 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: and average production profiles. 428 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 2: So we're probably going to see a hit or two 429 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: from that tight end class. 430 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: So when you look at this at a high level 431 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: bird's eye view, which is what this really is, it's 432 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: it's a below average class. You know, it's not it's 433 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: not a great class. I think the running back class 434 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: is pretty pretty brutal. The wide receiver one is at 435 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: least like relatively deep when you factor in draft capital 436 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: or projected draft capital. 437 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 2: If we don't get that draft Capital at wide. 438 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: Receiver, I'm gonna be concerned because the production profiles are 439 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: not overly strong. And the other thing, too, is that 440 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: a lot of the production profile, like the elite production profiles, 441 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: are from the players that are being boosted up in 442 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: the NFL draft from a projection standpoint, So Jordan Tyson, 443 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: Carnell Tate, McKay Lemon, you know you have Casey Conceptsion, Like, 444 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: those four have the four best production profiles in my opinion, 445 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: in this class. And so we're not necessarily gonna get 446 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: the incredible values in rookie drafts either were like, let's 447 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: say I really like Casey Conceptsion because the rest of 448 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: the class looks the way it is, and because draft 449 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: capital is probably gonna play out the way that it will, 450 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: chances are the only differences in rankings and ADP that 451 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna see is like I'm gonna be like, I'm 452 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: almost definitely gonna have Conceptsion ahead of Denzel Boston, for instance, 453 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: and like, but but the the there might be some 454 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: people who don't. But those are just a small differences 455 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: that we're gonna see in rookie drafts. It's not gonna 456 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: be like conceptsion. I love him and he's great, and 457 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: he got third round draft capital, but we're gonna boost 458 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: him up because he's really good and we're gonna be able 459 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: to get him in the second round of it's not happening. 460 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: Like it's just there's not many players like that in 461 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: this class. So I think, like Elijah surrat could be 462 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: that guy, or could be one of those guys because 463 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: draft capital is currently putting in round three. But the 464 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: fantasy community loves Elijah Surratt because he has really good 465 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: age justin production and so yeah, I mean, I think 466 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: it's just a really it's an easy class to be 467 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: chalky at the top, and then it's just gonna be 468 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: a complete disaster after the mid to late first round 469 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: of rookie drafts, where you're gonna really have to factor 470 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: in I think a little bit more landing spot and 471 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: stuff than we typically do. 472 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 4: Do you think, just from a zoomed out point of view, 473 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 4: do you think that we've been I don't want to 474 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 4: say spoiled, but like last year we had the running 475 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 4: back class, the year before that, we had the wide 476 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 4: receiver class. Like going into the draft, there was so 477 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 4: much hype around these classes and this year there's just 478 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 4: really not that much. 479 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit. 480 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think that we often 481 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: overstated and understate what all of that means. You know, 482 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: even I got caught up in the hype a little 483 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: bit of the running back class last year. When I 484 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: look back at the model now and I'm like, yeah, 485 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 1: it was definitely good, but it was honestly like kind 486 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: of in line with like twenty twenty, you know, or 487 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: like twenty seventeen. Yes, for sure, like, but it's not 488 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: the differences from class to class I think are often 489 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: overstated because we are not nearly as good as we 490 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: think we are predicting this stuff. 491 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: And there are some draft classes. 492 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's a twenty nineteen wide receiver class 493 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: where we think it's horrible and it ends up being great, 494 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, like like I think that's when Terry McLaurin 495 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: came out or something like around that time. 496 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: But regardless, it's. 497 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: Like, like we we shouldn't be so confident in our 498 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: ability to project this stuff. We should still project this 499 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: stuff and understand. But I think what's more important is, 500 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: instead of making the blanket statements, is really understanding where 501 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: the flatness starts to occur and ADP and the flattness 502 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: starts to occur in talent and such, because you know, 503 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: sometimes that flatness, you know, sometimes there's different tiers where 504 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: like the front half of the first round of a 505 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: rookie draft is elite elite to elite, and then the 506 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: next six guys are you know, just one tier below that, 507 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: and then the next six you know, into the second 508 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: round are tier below that. In this year's draft, I 509 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: think it's like you have elite elite, e leite elite, 510 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: and then that end of the first round and then 511 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: that first part of the second round are all kind 512 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: of the same at this point in time right now today, 513 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: whereas you generally do still still see like some sort 514 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: of drop off from that tier two to tier three, 515 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: right now, it's just merged. 516 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: And I think that's. 517 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: The game theory component that we should be taking away 518 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: here Instead of just blanketing and saying, hey, this draft 519 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: class sucks, I think it's more important to you know, 520 00:24:59,280 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: approach it. 521 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: With Okay, why does it suck? Like where where? 522 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: Like why are we saying this? Why is there this flatness? 523 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: Like what does it mean for my rookie picks? And 524 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: to me It means that late first round rookie picks 525 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: right now today are not that much different than mid 526 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: second round rookie picks. 527 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: And so if you can. 528 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: Kind of dangle that like one to eleven out there 529 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: to somebody and be like, hey, it's the first rounder, 530 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: the first Yeah right, I mean, if you can do 531 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: that today in a more casual dynasty league, I'm all 532 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: for that because I really don't think it's I don't 533 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: think you're gonna get a dramatically different player there than 534 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: you will at like the two oh five or two 535 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,959 Speaker 1: of four in a super flex league. 536 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 4: We talked about Eli Stowers. I almost mentioned this in 537 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 4: the news segment, but he had a Top thirty visit 538 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 4: with the Broncos yesterday. 539 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: Hours with the Broncos would be fun. 540 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 4: Also met with him at the combine. Can you just 541 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 4: imagine soturs JJ in the joker role? 542 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: Here we go, Here we go. 543 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 4: That was an overblown narrative from last year. 544 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 2: It's always overblown narrative. 545 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, little even anger I'm in the in the joker 546 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 4: role didn't pan out. But if Stowers goes in the 547 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 4: first round of the Broncos after they restructure Waddles contract 548 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 4: and that. 549 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: Offense would just would just be nice. All right, enough 550 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: of this. 551 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: The late round, main event. All right, these are your 552 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 4: favorite twenty twenty six draft comps for wide receiver. You 553 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 4: want you want to preface before you get into this. 554 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: Of course I want to preface. Yeah, this is just fun. 555 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: This is not how I feel. 556 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 1: But you know, I'll give you guys takes about how 557 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: I actually feel about each of these guys. 558 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 2: But this is not the way that the ZAP model projections. 559 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: It projects things. 560 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: You know, like we back in the day at number five, 561 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: for instance, Like part of our modeling that we did 562 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: was similarity score based and we would take you know, 563 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: similar games in the past, for instance, that projected a 564 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: certain way, and we would match that and that's how 565 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: we helped project how that particular game was going to go. 566 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: The way the ZA model works, project comps are just 567 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: for fun, that's it. 568 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 2: It's just to give you an idea. 569 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 1: And the way that I view comps honestly is like, 570 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: are there a lot of great comps. 571 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 2: For this player? 572 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: Then we should maybe feel subjectively a little bit better 573 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: about him, are there not? You know, I don't have 574 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: this player on today's list, But like Jeremy Bernard, who 575 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: has some red flags with his profile. Don't get me wrong, 576 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: Like he's the arts pro out run isn't very strong 577 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: and such, and he's not someone I'm higher low on necessarily, 578 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: But his comps whenever I would run it through the 579 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: model and the system were just it was just bad 580 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: comp after bad comp after bad comp. Like it was 581 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: just really not what you want to see from, you know, 582 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: a wide receiver who might go round two and then 583 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: at least gives me a little pause. You know, even 584 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: if the ZAP model is gonna say, oh, he has 585 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: a score of sixty or fifty eight or whatever it is, 586 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: which is along the same lines of this guy or 587 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 1: this guy, if that other guy has better comps, I'm 588 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna go with the better the guy with better comps, 589 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: of all things being equal. So just just understand that 590 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: as I talk through things. So I think I have 591 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: seven wide receivers to talk about today. These are some 592 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: of my favorite comps from the class, both good and bad. 593 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: Denzel Boston, who's getting a lot of first round love. 594 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: Some people have him as like like they think he's 595 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: like part of the Big three. Others think that he's terrible, 596 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: that he has separation issues. I've seen people throw Keyon 597 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: Coleman out there as like this is a next the 598 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: next key On Coleman. I don't think he's a key 599 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: On Coleman type player at all, really, But if you 600 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: look at him to Jaden Higgins in the model, just 601 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: analytically all this is going to be analytical, there's a 602 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: lot of similarities coming out with the exact same age 603 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: or as the exact same age. They're both the same height, 604 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: almost the exact same weight. Their breakout scores are both 605 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: sixtieth and seventyeighth percentile career yards per out run. This 606 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: is not part of the model yards per out run, 607 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: but Boston was at two point oh two, which is 608 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: a red flag. Jaden Higgins at two point two four 609 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: first downs per route run. Boston actually had a pretty 610 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: good first downs per out run rate, which is nice 611 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: eleven point four percent, but Jaden Higgins at ten point 612 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: eight percent. They both didn't play in the slot very 613 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: much fifteen percent to seventeen percent. 614 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of similarities. And I think that, like. 615 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: If you want to think about like people just get 616 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: so crazy with comps and they're like, oh, he's Mike 617 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: Evans or he's It's like. 618 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: Calm down, Calm down. 619 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: Mike Evans is a Hall of Fame talent who like 620 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 1: has has done things that other wide receivers have not 621 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: done in this league. You can't just make that a 622 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: comp like, let's look at a reasonable outcome here. I 623 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: think a reasonable outcome is Jaden Higgins. You know, Boston 624 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: did get a later start production wise because of the 625 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: teammate competition at Washington. But in my opinion, when you 626 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: look at Denzel Boston, I think he's more of a 627 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: second round profile analytical profile. 628 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: Than a first round analytical profile. 629 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to say I'm like fading 630 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: him no matter what, but I don't think that he's 631 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: like an elite elite talent. 632 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 4: Okay, the next one is a guy that I don't 633 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: know if this is a great comp for zach ry Branch. 634 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 4: But you got Nicole Hardiman. 635 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean great comp in terms of like him 636 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: being productive in the NFL. No, it's not a great 637 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: comp for him to be productive from a fantasy perspective. Look, 638 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: I have my issues with Zach Branch. I've been talking 639 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: about it for a while. I actually did a little 640 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: Vibe Vibe code Ye work with Claude yesterday to get 641 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: some of the the Zap model stuff into something that 642 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: could easily search. So I'm actually looking at it right 643 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: now on the left side here. But his career behind 644 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage rate forty five point five percent. 645 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: That's a ninety nine percent TILE. It's across his career, 646 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: that's a ninety nine percentile number. Screen yard share, so 647 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: how many yards were coming on screens thirty six percent, 648 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: that's a ninety nine percentile number. 649 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: That's the kind of profile we're looking at. 650 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: Was Zach Branch where he's gadgety, you know, was used 651 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: in a non traditional way a wide receiver, And yeah, 652 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: that sounds a little bit like Mikol Hardman, does it not. 653 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: They're both early declares five foot nine versus five foot ten. 654 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: Hardman had about ten pounds on him, so he's a 655 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: little bit bigger. Breakout scores were both not great, you know, 656 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: sub fiftieth percentile thirty fourth to forty third percent TILE. 657 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: Their best season in yards per team pass attempt when 658 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: adjusted for strength of schedule and age was two point 659 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: one one versus one point seven to one. 660 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: Hardman was worse. 661 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: Within that metric, both were heavily used out of the 662 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: slot and both were heavily used behind the line of scrimmage. 663 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: Now I know I mentioned Zach Branch was forty five 664 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: point five percent, Miko Hardman was about twenty seven percent 665 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: in terms of his usage behind the line of scrimmage 666 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: in college. But let me tell you, guys, forty five 667 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: point five percent, like I said, as a ninety nine 668 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: percent tile number, it's an outlier type number. So twenty 669 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: seven percent is actually a lot. It's just that there's 670 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: a big This is just such a big gap. But 671 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: the way that Branch was used in college himself, so 672 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: I don't think this is like a one to one 673 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: per se because, like I said, Branch's usage was so 674 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: extreme and Hardman also had that a better career yards 675 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: per out run rate. But I do think that this 676 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: comp which got spit out as the top comp for Branch, 677 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: tells the story of the kind of player that Branches. 678 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean, is there a ceiling shore like is their 679 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: best ball all upside? Sure, but I do worry about 680 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: Branches of prospect. 681 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 4: Okay, that might not have been a fun profile for 682 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 4: fantasy enthusiast, but this one kind of is Omar Cooper 683 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 4: you got the comp to Deebo Samuel. 684 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people have made this comp too. 685 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: It was Rashi Rice was one that also popped up 686 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: in the model. But then in Omar Cooper's rite up, 687 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: I talked about Deebo Samuel, So I want to talk 688 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,239 Speaker 1: about this one a little bit more so when you 689 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: look at their numbers, the biggest difference is that Deebo 690 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: Samuel is a thicker build, right, He's about fifteen pounds heavier. 691 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: And the way that these comps work I mentioned this 692 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: last week, is that it's looking at the distance between 693 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: all these different variables and it's saying, Okay, I'm going 694 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: to calculate this distance and weight, and then this distance 695 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: and this metric, and then it adds all that together 696 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: and says, what is the lowest distance? Right, And that's 697 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: the tightest comp if you will, And so I'll weigh 698 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: things like height and weight more. And despite that, Omar 699 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: Cooper versus Deebo Samuel was the second highest. 700 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: Comp for Omar Cooper. Deebo Samuel was and. 701 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: So and the reason for that is their breakout scores 702 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: are very similar. Fifty fourth to sixty fifth percentile. It's 703 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: forty two to forty seven ish. Breakout scores yards per 704 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: out run and their career point oh four apart from 705 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: one another. First downs per out run very similar. Their 706 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: best season in adjusted yards per team pass attempt almost identical. 707 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: And then the way they were deployed. 708 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: Now, Deebo saw a slot rate of only sixteen percent 709 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: in college, whereas Omar Cooper is at forty seven percent. 710 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: But when you look at the. 711 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: Depth in which they were seeing their targets, their deep 712 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: ball rate wasn't that far from one another. 713 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 2: Their shorter area targets were. 714 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: Very very similar. And then the big thing here too, 715 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: they're avoided tackles per catch. That's where obviously Deebo has 716 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: won in the NFL. He's a tackle breaker. That's what 717 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: Omar Cooper does as well. Omar Cooper at a point 718 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: three to one misstackles force per catch, which is crazy. 719 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: It's a great number. Deebo Samuels is also very high 720 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: in college. So I do think that's the kind of 721 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: player we're working with with with Omar Cooper, very interesting prospect. 722 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: He's getting round one love right now. He's not gonna 723 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: like I will not like Casey Conceptsione. Even though Conceptio 724 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: might go after Cooper in the draft, I still think 725 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: Conceptsion is a better player and better prospect, so I'll 726 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: have him ranked the head. But I think Cooper is 727 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: an okay player, like an okay prospect in this kind 728 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: of environment in class where there's a there's a non 729 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,959 Speaker 1: zero chance that I would rank Cooper over Boston post draft, 730 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: depending on how draft capital falls. 731 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm assuming this next comp JJ is just on 732 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 4: the field and not off the field. 733 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know anything about. 734 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: Malachi Fields off the field, so yeah, sure, well I 735 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: I and all I know about mc collins off the 736 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: field is that he likes to get to games in 737 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: a wild and crazy way, and he's you know, just 738 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: an interest foot. 739 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 740 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 3: Interesting, probably the most interesting person in the NFL. 741 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 742 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 1: But Malachi Fields, who I think has a pretty crummy 743 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: age adjusted production profile. 744 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 2: He comes to mac Hollins. 745 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: They were both pretty old coming out twenty three point 746 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: eight for for Malachi Fields, twenty three point six for maccollins. 747 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: Both pretty similar, size six five to eighteen for Fields, 748 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: six four to two twenty one for Hollins. Breakout scores 749 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: were both low not surprising for guys who stick who 750 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: were older coming out, and then their best adjusted yards 751 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: perteen pass atten numbers were were pretty on point with 752 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: one another as well. So those numbers like because adjusted 753 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: yards between pass ten feeds into breakout score, those numbers 754 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: are all all of those right there are in the 755 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: ZAP model to some degree, which is why maccollins was 756 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: a top com for Fields and Fields also, by the way, 757 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: I don't have mc collins yards perrowle run numbers because 758 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: it was a while ago and and data doesn't go 759 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: back that far. But Fields had a very poor yards 760 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: perou run profile. I actually said a tweet out today 761 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: about how Fields saw a spike where like his on 762 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: NFL mock draft database, he was going like forty third 763 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: overall at one point on the Consensus big boards, and 764 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: now he's down to sixty four. And so I said 765 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: that as if I said forty four, but I said 766 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 1: forty three. 767 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: Didn't I. 768 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: But now he's on the sixty four, So he's like 769 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: a fringe round two, round three player. 770 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 2: Even that to me is too high. 771 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: And what happened, I think was that he had a 772 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: good senior Bowl and people started to mock him higher, 773 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: but the analytical profile is not strong enough in my 774 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: opinion for Malechi Fields. 775 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 2: Could he be a third rounder or should he be 776 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 2: a third rounder? 777 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: I can see someone taking a chance on the size, 778 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: but to me, he's more of a Day three player. 779 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 2: Like, I'm just not going to be in on field. 780 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: If Fields gets round two capital and that correlates to 781 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: where his dynasty ADP will be, I'm gonna be out 782 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: because his his production profile is just not very strong. 783 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 4: Okay, I feel like this next Comfy did for me. 784 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: Maybe I did for all the all of the people 785 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: who were burned by just Hunter back in the day. 786 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 4: So there might be some some younger folks out there 787 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 4: that they don't really remember the Justin Hunter days or 788 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 4: Justin Hunter hype even a lot of like he had 789 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 4: so much potential. Man, were you a big Justin Hunter guy? 790 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 2: I think? 791 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: Because But the thing is back then, if you look 792 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: in like that twenty fifteen to twenty eighteen time frame, 793 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen time frame, yeah, I wasn't prospecting really and 794 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: I didn't have Like the evolution for me with my 795 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: analysis has very much been grounded with how that player 796 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: was viewed coming out of college, you know, like especially 797 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: early on in their careers and stuff where I think 798 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 1: it's important where if a player shows us something after 799 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: being a good prospect, then he's probably a good player, 800 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: right Whereas you know, like Luther Burden, I'm so intrigued 801 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: by because I thought he was a really good prospect 802 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: and he had really good peripherals last year, and so 803 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, this is exciting, right. 804 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 2: But it's when you get this combination of. 805 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: Like okay prospect or like decent enough prospect and then 806 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: they kind of fall flat on their face. Then you 807 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: kind of be like, I don't know if this guy's 808 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: going to be it or not right or you know, 809 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: there's just all these like different iterations you can look at. 810 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 2: So I don't know how I would have viewed Justin Hunter. 811 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I think back then I 812 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: was probably drafting him because like I fell more victim 813 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: to hype and to group think back then, you know, 814 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: just to be honest, but yeah, you know, if. 815 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 2: I look back now at what the model says about him, it's. 816 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: Not like he was like this phenomenal prospect necessary because 817 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: he was part of it was his athleticism. He was 818 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: a freak athlete, right, That's why that's why he looked 819 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 1: as good as he did to some people. 820 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 4: And six four, I mean, yeah, people love people love 821 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 4: six or four wide receivers. 822 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 823 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: And so Jacoby Lane is the Justin Hunter comp that 824 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm making, or Justin Hunter's the comp for Jacoby Lane. 825 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: They're both early to clare receivers. 826 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: Both almost identically ages coming out, they're sub twenty two 827 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: years old, very similar frames six four two hundre in 828 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 1: one ninety six, so you get this like leaner perimeter 829 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: type frame. Their breakout scores almost identical thirty five for 830 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: both of them. Their best year in adjusted yards per 831 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: team pass attempt almost identical two point three five to 832 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: two point four nine. Laine also at a sub two 833 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: point zero yards pro out run rate. So it's not 834 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: great that's twenty six in the class. And the other 835 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: thing with Lane is it's good that he's in early declare. 836 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 1: You know, it's good that that he's younger, and that's 837 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: something that's factored in by the model. But we've seen 838 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: this kind of profile before, and the problem with it 839 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: is that the other two comps that spit out as 840 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: this top three that are in the prospect guide are 841 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,240 Speaker 1: Terras Marshall. 842 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 2: And Ady Mitchell. 843 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: Now I fell victim to Terist Marshall because again that 844 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 1: was earlier in my prospecting career. In life, I wouldn't 845 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: have viewed him necessarily the same way. Now Ady Mitchell. 846 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: I corrected the mistake, and I was off of Ady Mitchell. 847 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: The model did not like Ady Mitchell, and so I'm 848 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: glad for that right that I'm learning. Okay, guys getting better, ye, 849 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: And I do think that Jacoby Lane kind of fits 850 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 1: the mold here. 851 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: I don't think though, that he's going. 852 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: To see the same draft capital as these guys, So 853 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: that could be, you know, if if Jacoby Lane's like 854 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: a late second round rookie pick or something, or like 855 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: third I don't I have no idea where his ADP 856 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: would be. I'm not going to really care if you 857 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: want to take a chance, because I don't think there's 858 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of studs or obvious players to 859 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: go to in that range anyway. 860 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 2: But I do think that there's a lot of red 861 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: flags to his profile. 862 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 4: All right, speaking of studs, we might have one in 863 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 4: the next one. So CARNL Tait, you've got his comp 864 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 4: as George Pickens. 865 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 2: Yes, yes. 866 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 3: Oh. 867 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: By the way, someone says this guy sounds like a 868 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: down spoiler in Indianapolis, so Josh Dollen spoiler. Jacoby Lane 869 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: is definitely a Chris Ballard type wide receiver for sure. 870 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 2: For sure. 871 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: Like I don't know if the athleticism is as elite, 872 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, for Ballard to kind of go after, but 873 00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: I do think that he could be sort of that 874 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: like perimeter guy that they're they're missing to a degree, 875 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know if if they'll go 876 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: that route. But the fact that Ady Mitchell was a 877 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: was a comp is kind of funny, all right. Carnel 878 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: Tate to George Pickens. This is one that other people 879 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: have made too, but breakout scores very similar. They're six 880 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: two and six. Career yards per out, run rates are 881 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: most identical. Tait, though, is the better prospect overall. I 882 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: think that needs to be stated. His best season in 883 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: the yards per team pass attempts is two point seventy three, 884 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: Pickens two point one zero, And when you adjust those 885 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: numbers they get even better for both players because of 886 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: the programs they played at and such. But I do 887 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: think Tate is the better prospect. Than George Pickens. And 888 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: the other thing that I did find interesting that is 889 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: not as comparable is that Tit's a dot was roughly 890 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: three yards lower than George. 891 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 2: Pickens a dot in college. 892 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 1: And I know that Tit is viewed as this deep 893 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: threat and such, and so I think that's at least 894 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 1: interesting when you're making that comp to George Pickens. If 895 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: you look at their deep ball target rate, Tate was 896 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: about eleven percentage points lower than George Pickens across their 897 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: collegiate careers. So, like, I think the comp makes sense stylistically, 898 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: analytically all of that, but I do think that there 899 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: are some differences here with with Tate the other the 900 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: other comp just so people were aware with Tate that 901 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,280 Speaker 1: the higher end. 902 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 2: One was, uh was Calvin Ridley. 903 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: And then I think will Fuller was the third one, 904 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: which you know, will Fuller had his moments in the 905 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: in the league. It's just he he no one, no 906 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: one still knows where will Fuller is. 907 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:32,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. 908 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: I have no idea what happened to will full He. 909 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 4: Kind of just fell off, yeah, yeah, the face of 910 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 4: the earth. Yeah yeah. 911 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 2: It was bizarre. 912 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: I remember like teams were like ready to sign him 913 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: seemingly and then he just never played again. 914 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 4: All Right, this next one kind of hurts a little 915 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 4: bit because or not not this next one. Sorry, Going 916 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 4: back to George Pickens, it kind of hurts a little 917 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 4: bit because as a Titans fan, he was in that 918 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 4: twenty twenty two NFL Draft and the Titans that's when 919 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 4: they notoriously like fell off the cliff traded AJ Brown 920 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 4: got Trailing Burke's and I'm screaming for George Pickens. But 921 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 4: people also like thought that his attitude was like the issue, 922 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 4: which I mean. 923 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I I mean it's it kind of has 924 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: come to a head, like at least with Pittsburgh and stuff. 925 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: But I remember that draft thinking that it wasn't a 926 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: Chicago that was like a lock to get Pickens. 927 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 2: And then they didn't. 928 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, is that what happened. 929 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the draft right now to make sure that. Yeah, 930 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: the Bears got y Kyler Gordon in that draft and 931 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 1: then Pickens went. 932 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 4: Pickens went fifty second over. 933 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 2: Second to Pittsburgh. 934 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, like he slipped, and I think 935 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: the off the field stuff was definitely a problem. And 936 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 1: I also will go to the grave I talked about 937 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,760 Speaker 1: this last year on Twitter and kind of got roasted 938 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: for it by by mostly Steeler fans. But like, George 939 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: Pickens is better than DK Metcalf. Yeah, and the Steelers 940 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: traded a second from Calf. They traded Pickens for a third, 941 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 1: and they paid DK Metcalf. And imagine if they were 942 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: to just get it to work with George Pickens, then 943 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: they'd be in a way better spot than they are 944 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: right now. 945 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. George Pickens, followed immediately by Alec Pearce sky Moore 946 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 3: and then Trey McBride. Is interesting. Four picks in the draft. 947 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 4: All right, Next we've got Skyler Bell and the comp 948 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 4: is Ricky Pearsall who. 949 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 3: As we know, JJ got shot shot. 950 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, as that was one of the first late 951 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,240 Speaker 1: Round shows and it was one of my biggest regrets 952 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: that I've ever had on on YouTube. Uh speaking of 953 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: Brian Robinson signed with with Atlanta. Yeah yeah, who got 954 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: he got? 955 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 2: He got shot? 956 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, he just got shot, not shot. 957 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: Uh. But yeah, So Skyler Bell had a pretty prolific, 958 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: like like end of his career from a production standpoint. 959 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: But a couple things about that number. One, when you 960 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: adjust from mark share, it still looks good. But doesn't 961 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: look as good. 962 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 2: Number two. You have to remember that he's older and 963 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 2: he's playing a not major major. 964 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: Program is at Yukon. But the Ricky Piersoll comp makes 965 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: sense to me. I mean, the the ages are pretty similar, 966 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 1: coming out almost identical, the height six foot six. The 967 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: breakout score is better for Pearsall. It's not great. I 968 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: mean it's thirty five. That's like a less than fiftieth 969 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: percentile breakout score. Skyler Bell it's twenty two because of 970 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 1: the adjustins made for the program that he was playing at. 971 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 1: They both had some rushing production, which gets signal within 972 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: the ZAP model, career arts per out run is pretty similar. 973 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 1: First downs per out run is pretty similar. It's just 974 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 1: so you got to remember to adjust things for Skyler 975 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: Bell based on where he played. 976 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 2: And the other thing too. 977 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: When you look at these comps like I I remember 978 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: when I was going through the prospecting process of that 979 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: draft class with Ricky Pearsall a couple of years ago. 980 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: I liked Pearsaw and then he got surprisingly high draft capital, 981 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: Like people were not ready for him to be a 982 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 1: first round, end of the first round kind of player. 983 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: It was like I was more in him when he 984 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: was like a late second early, you know, date like 985 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: somewhere in Day two kind of player. He was an 986 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 1: interesting name because he had this versatile profile, and then 987 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: he landed in a place in San Francisco that I thought, 988 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: and we still don't know, could could use sort of 989 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: that versatile skill set, you know, because Kyle Shanahan likes 990 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: to use wide receivers in those yak ways, and so 991 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: I thought, like the landing spot was good, all that 992 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: sort of thing. But Piersall's profile was not close to 993 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: like squeaky clean, like it was very much red flags 994 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 1: all over the place. Like I said, he's older, his 995 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: breakout score is not great, and actually in the model 996 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: right now, I think he has a high risk profile, 997 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: like it's it's. 998 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,399 Speaker 2: Not the cleanest thing in the world. 999 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,240 Speaker 1: And I don't think Skyler Bell has the cleanest profile 1000 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: in the world either despite people really liking him or 1001 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, I don't mind him as like a Day 1002 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 1: two guy. But again, and if the hype gets out 1003 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: of control, then we got to bring it in a 1004 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,439 Speaker 1: little bit and just be grounded with with our takes 1005 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,240 Speaker 1: about these players. 1006 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 2: So I do think the comp makes sense and what 1007 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:09,240 Speaker 2: he can bring to the table. 1008 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: He's like an inside out player, can can line up everywhere, 1009 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: you know, and had you know, a longer career because 1010 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: he was you know, he's older coming out as well, 1011 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 1: just like Pier saw and was versatile. But I don't 1012 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: want this to be taken as like necessarily an awesome 1013 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,800 Speaker 1: thing because Ricky Piersall, in my opinion, wasn't a can't 1014 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,720 Speaker 1: miss type prospect, you know, in general. 1015 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I enjoy on these comps seeing when the player 1016 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 4: incoming players older than the. 1017 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 3: Comp that has been in the league for a few years. 1018 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, no, no, so that's that's the age when 1019 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: they were coming out. 1020 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,720 Speaker 4: Oh okay, I thought that. I was like, Ricky pierceof 1021 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 4: is only twenty four years old, Like yeah, no. 1022 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,240 Speaker 2: No, no, he's like he's already early. Yeah, he's already 1023 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 2: like twenty six. 1024 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 4: Okay, so this is when, all right, So that makes 1025 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 4: sense because I looked at him like, I don't know 1026 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 4: that Pearsaul. 1027 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,720 Speaker 1: Is that I didn't know the comp is the comp 1028 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: is looking at age. I should have I should have 1029 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 1: shouted that out. But the comp is looking at their 1030 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: age coming out, Like Jayden Higgins was twenty two point 1031 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: four coming out last year. 1032 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I probably should have noticed on the Justin 1033 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 4: Hunter comp to be honest, Yeah, that's true. 1034 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 2: You should have picked that up. 1035 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like forty. He's like, he's like unk status. 1036 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 2: Justin Hunter is like doing real estate or something right now. 1037 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. He went to college at UT. 1038 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 4: I think he was a Titan. Then he ended up 1039 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 4: at the with the Steelers too. 1040 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he might have towards the end. He's you know, 1041 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,760 Speaker 1: he's only thirty four right now. 1042 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 4: It seemed like it seems like a long time ago, 1043 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 4: like fifteen twenty sixteen, Like you said, that seems like 1044 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 4: that's just such a. 1045 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 2: He's a coach right now. 1046 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: He's he's the offensive quality control coach for the University 1047 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: of Memphis. 1048 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 3: There you go, Yeah, what is. 1049 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 4: The What does the quality control coach do? I've always 1050 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 4: wondered this, Probably. 1051 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: Just like make sure that they're like that, that the 1052 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: offenses is quality and controlled. 1053 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 4: That's as much of a clue as I do about 1054 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 4: the quality. It just seems like we talked about the 1055 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,800 Speaker 4: name in title only. 1056 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're like, oh, we can get an 1057 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 2: x nfler. 1058 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 4: Yeah right, it's get a guy. It seems like you 1059 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 4: know that it's like, at least with the video assistant, 1060 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 4: you know, you know kind. 1061 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 3: Of what they're doing. But the quality of control. 1062 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure, Look, I'm sure he's doing something to help 1063 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 1: their like at least they're wide receivers. 1064 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 4: And someone in the comments let us know what a 1065 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 4: what quality control coach is and what the next step 1066 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 4: step up is from a quality control coach. Please, all right, 1067 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 4: let's wrap this up. I am a top of this 1068 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 4: bracket and this picture JJ for the audio listeners that's after. 1069 00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 2: What is this? 1070 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 4: Okay? 1071 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 2: Just right now? Yeah, Oh, you're the top because you're 1072 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 2: it's your entry. 1073 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 4: It's my screenshot. 1074 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 2: J Drews is number two. 1075 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Todd by the way, Aaron Thomas in the discord, 1076 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: who is part of this. Yeah, as a like ninety 1077 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: nine point fifth percentile bracket right now. Yeah, yeah, mine's 1078 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 1: in the ninety eighth percentile, man, ninety eight point four. 1079 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,800 Speaker 4: Mine was doing so good until the Vandy upsets. 1080 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 2: I had Vandy also in the Elite eight. Yeah, I 1081 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 2: have my my big thing. 1082 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: My big thing is that I have Tennessee in the 1083 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: final four and if that hits, yeah, I'm in the money. 1084 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm good. 1085 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 4: There was I saw on Reddit there was a guy 1086 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 4: that predicted like forty four or forty eight picks correctly. 1087 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 3: In one of these big contests. 1088 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, then a method and then. 1089 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 3: Didn't fill out the rest of the bracket. 1090 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 4: Oh really, Yes, that's got a stake to get forty 1091 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 4: four or forty eight and then not fill out the 1092 00:50:59,160 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 4: rest of your bracket. 1093 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 1: I do a better max score than you two, though 1094 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: Brandon Brand's got ten points better max score. Brandon has 1095 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 1: a better max than both of us. 1096 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this is in the top I just 1097 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 4: pulled the top ten in the screen show. 1098 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 2: It is crazy and funny. 1099 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: How like, obviously the demographic of us is not like 1100 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 1: the people that are in the discord are not called 1101 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 1: like necessarily college basketball fans. 1102 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 2: But look how many like nine of the how many 1103 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 2: are in there? 1104 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 1: This like sixteen Because we did this very late in 1105 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,879 Speaker 1: the process, there's not like like eighteen I think. Yeah, 1106 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: and half of them are in the ninetieth percent. Tyler 1107 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: better right now. Yeah, that just goes to show we 1108 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: got we got some sharp, chocky listeners and supporters. 1109 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought there are most people. I think I 1110 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,720 Speaker 4: think like Duke was the most popular pick, and everyone's 1111 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 4: going game theory. As you see, no one's picking Duke 1112 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 4: like Duke in the late rounders. Discord was like the 1113 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 4: because everyone's like, oh everyone's picking Duke, I need to 1114 00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:58,760 Speaker 4: pick someone else. 1115 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, the first big duke's going. 1116 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1117 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 1: I mean, but they've been they've been not looking great 1118 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 1: so far to start the uh attorney, Hey, I mean 1119 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: they so to be fair, I was at a dance 1120 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: competition last weekend and I was keeping track of the 1121 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: scores and I saw that TCU was like ahead by a. 1122 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 2: Point or something in the second half. 1123 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then what did they go in like a 1124 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 1: forty to three run or something that ridiculous? Yeah, crazy, 1125 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 1: That's classic Jamie Dixon. 1126 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 2: I know that as a as a pit alum. 1127 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 3: So what happened in that game? 1128 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,720 Speaker 4: I know we've we've already talked about all the football stuff, 1129 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 4: But what happened in that game is that they missed 1130 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 4: a goaltending call. Uh so they lost by thirty because no, 1131 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,919 Speaker 4: it was like a four to six point game. 1132 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 3: They missed the goaltending call. Dixon goes irate. 1133 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, the ref that missed the goaltending call, tease him up. 1134 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 4: Oh and so at two points then they get two 1135 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 4: points and they score three. Ever since that goaltending call, 1136 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 4: they scored like they went on the that just insane. 1137 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 1: Jamie Dixon could be a villain and in like about 1138 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: like he looks like the Iceland coach from a Mighty 1139 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,919 Speaker 1: He has slick back hair and stuff and. 1140 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 4: I could I could see it. 1141 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1142 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 4: Speaking of movies, JJ, we watched The Goat last night 1143 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 4: with Steph Curry. Yeah. The movie sports. Uh you know 1144 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,720 Speaker 4: movie with your kids that you can watch. 1145 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1146 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's all that's all I got JJ. As 1147 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 3: far as sports. 1148 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 4: In the Late Round show, I do want to remind 1149 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 4: people to subscribe, like comment. 1150 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,479 Speaker 3: Remember this is an interactive show. 1151 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 4: Before, during after the show, subscribed to the newsletter. You 1152 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 4: had the newsletter this week. We've got Brandon Godola, right 1153 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 4: and fire newsletters every week. 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I have talked to him and 1165 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 1: known him for a really long time, but this will 1166 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,359 Speaker 1: be the first show that we do together, so I'm 1167 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: excited for that. 1168 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 2: That'll drop on Friday. 1169 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:16,360 Speaker 3: Awesome. 1170 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 4: Well, JJ, appreciate you being on the show, appreciate everyone 1171 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 4: that tuned in, and as you're COO. 1172 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 3: JJ, let me just say you're doing a great job 1173 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:28,720 Speaker 3: as CEO. 1174 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. 1175 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,839 Speaker 4: Well, that being said, we'll see you next time here 1176 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 4: in the Late Round Fantasy Football show. Peace