WEBVTT - Josh Robert Thompson

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<v Speaker 1>The Craig Ferguson Pants on Fire Tour is on sale now.

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<v Speaker 1>at your local outlet in your region. My name is

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<v Speaker 1>Craig Ferguson. The name of this podcast is Joy. I

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<v Speaker 1>talk to interest in people about what brings them happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>On the podcast today is an artist who I can

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<v Speaker 1>consider one of the best and most interesting that I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever met. He was, of course the personality, the boys

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<v Speaker 1>and the talent of Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>Peterson on the Old Lately Show, but it's so much

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<v Speaker 2>more than that.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the world with my friend Josh Robert Compston enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, let me apologize to you because I

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<v Speaker 1>was meant to do your podcast, You're Spielberg podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I have done it yet, that's all right? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>still doing it?

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<v Speaker 4>We're doing it right after this, doing it at noon?

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, hop on?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I have to say?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, as you get older, because I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>you for a little while, you look more and more

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<v Speaker 1>like John Cassavei's do you know that? I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard that. I've never heard that except from you.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, yeah, no, you you do. It's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, you broke my heart?

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<v Speaker 2>You do. I knew it was you, Josh.

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<v Speaker 5>So listen your podcast is uh are doing spiel Well,

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<v Speaker 5>that's you have to do that symbol.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not Elon musk man I'm trying to do. Come on, man,

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<v Speaker 4>do you know I drink my own pea? You know

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's good. It's actually good for you.

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<v Speaker 2>It says natural Skotti Shapple juice.

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<v Speaker 4>You can only drink your own piss. That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't drink someone else's piss. I guess that's the

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<v Speaker 4>why would you get a disease?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I just did a I did a whole Well, i'll

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<v Speaker 4>tell you about it. I did talk about urine recently. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>what happened. It's a lot going on over here, man,

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<v Speaker 4>But we'll figure out the spiel thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry about it. We're just we book. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so much shit going on. Man. Well, I figured

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Because your podcast is about doing your favorite Bielberg movie,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought what we could do and my podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>we could talk about a favorite movie that wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>Spielberg movie.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay, all right, So yours is obviously Ghostwriter. Yes, ghostwriter.

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<v Speaker 5>I know the yours ghost Writer. I thought you were

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<v Speaker 5>a big ghost Writer fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't you know, I can't tell you something about Ghostwriter.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a show, and then afterwards, at the meet

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<v Speaker 1>and greet, this nice older lady was at the mean

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<v Speaker 1>and greet, and she said, do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know my son.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a he's an actor. He was in a movie

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<v Speaker 1>called Ghostwriter. And I looked at I looked at her.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a very specific with this woman, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>us Bentley's mom, and she.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, yeah, yes, I am. You know my son, and

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<v Speaker 2>your son's a giant fucking movie star. He's like on Yellowstone.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the devil in the Ghostwriter movies. And she was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know you knew him. I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>with a mother like that, I'm surprised he's not a

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<v Speaker 2>stand up comedian. Did you share your love of ghost rip?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you were You were really the one that

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<v Speaker 4>was pushing ghost Rider for years, you know, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I was pretty much the only one. Although they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make ghost Rider too uh so they must have been

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<v Speaker 1>the market for it. I don't think did Nicholas Cage

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<v Speaker 1>come back for that one? Did you see that one?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was the post I bought too many castles.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, you got to pay

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<v Speaker 4>off all the iguanas, the the Kimodo dragon.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>My agent looked at h maybe he was thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>buying his house in La and she told me that

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<v Speaker 1>the candle sconces were plastic casts of his arm holding legs.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my arm over here, that's my arm. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty cool. Yeah, you should get that man, I

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<v Speaker 2>should like your arm.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like your arm imparison ate and Nicholas Cage's arm.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll tell people, Wiscons, here is Josh Robert Tomon's arm,

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<v Speaker 4>impersonating Nicholas Cage's arm.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I meant to tell you by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how when we were doing Jeff Peterson on

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<v Speaker 1>the Late Night Show, there were two Jeffs, traveling Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>and regular studio Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>I have both Jeffs. I have both Jeffs. Oh, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a mystery.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this is interesting you bring this up because this

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<v Speaker 4>has been a source of great mystery for the last decade.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, the show went off the air again. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been a decade.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew you had the Jeff, you had the in

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<v Speaker 4>studio Jeff, but the mystery was where is the other Jeff?

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<v Speaker 4>Is he in storage? Is he traveling the world? But

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<v Speaker 4>you you this whole time, you've had both of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had both Jeffs.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would like to offer you the gift of

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<v Speaker 1>the Jeff of your choice, traveling Jeff that I will

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<v Speaker 1>have a shipped to you.

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<v Speaker 4>So, so what you're saying is you would send me

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<v Speaker 4>I can choose whichever Jeff. I want traveling Jeff and

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<v Speaker 4>then you will ship. That should be somehow as long

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<v Speaker 4>as it's one of the two Jeffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Traveling Jeff, traveling Jeff, Yeah, yeah, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it should. First of all, you're famous for your Halloween

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<v Speaker 1>parade that you have in your house as a big pager.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah put it, Yeah, big show. You're a major figure

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<v Speaker 2>in the gay community in Los Angeles and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people come to so good. Have you seen his Halloween?

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<v Speaker 2>It's fantastic. You've got to come by and see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Your Halloween is very good.

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<v Speaker 4>Though. You're saying Jeff Peterson could be the centerpiece of

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<v Speaker 4>the newest Halloween display, is what you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're famous for your Halloween display in Lost Science List.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't look whether or not it's the centerpiece of

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<v Speaker 1>the display.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. That's up to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm just I'm just supplying what you do with

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<v Speaker 1>the traveling Jeff once you get him.

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<v Speaker 2>There, that's up to you.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, you can have either Jeff okay, but

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<v Speaker 4>preferably traveling.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff, but definitely traveling.

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<v Speaker 4>What you're saying is I could do a sad, lonely

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<v Speaker 4>like puppet show. Just on the front lawn at Halloween.

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<v Speaker 4>You want me to hide behind a bush and have

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<v Speaker 4>the remote control and hey, hey there retreat.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually actually I wasn't suggested, not but as you bring

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<v Speaker 1>it up, that sounds pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like it's a little it's a little sad.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, isn't that Josh Robert Thompson.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, remember me TV's Jeff Peterson, help yourself to some candy?

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead. I don't know. It could be TikTok gold.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it may be tikto Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I now from from the show?

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<v Speaker 2>I have something.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, they at one point made a puppet head beautifully

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<v Speaker 4>crafted of you. So I have a Craig Ferguson puppet head.

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<v Speaker 4>It's you and puppet form.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it creepy? It's a little creepy.

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<v Speaker 4>But what I'm thinking is I could puppeteer your head

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<v Speaker 4>while I'm puppeteering Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on the front lawn at Halloween. Hey, Josh,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Jeff, it's Halloween. Oh chiky monkey, Oh, chiky monkey, Josh?

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<v Speaker 2>Or what's that? Do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>I will see this though, But I mean, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a decade since the show went off the air, but

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<v Speaker 1>because of the way things are now, people still think

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<v Speaker 1>it's on the air.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people who genuinely believe it's still on the air.

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<v Speaker 2>They do, and it might as well be.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there are people that have made, even recently,

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<v Speaker 4>very thorough compilations of the entirety of the show, and

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<v Speaker 4>in most cases, because of I guess they use AIS

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<v Speaker 4>somehow they've upgraded the quality. It looks better than it

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<v Speaker 4>ever looked when it was on television. But yes, there

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<v Speaker 4>are people out there that have archives of our material,

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<v Speaker 4>do you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about this the AI though, because we

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<v Speaker 1>did so much Jeff Peterson and TV's Craig Ferguson together,

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<v Speaker 1>I think AI could probably start making new episodes of

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<v Speaker 1>you and Me, and you and Me don't even have

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<v Speaker 1>to be involved.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, some guy just did that I don't

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<v Speaker 4>remember his name, but he built a Jeff Peterson. He's

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<v Speaker 4>some kind of a inventor or roboticist. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 4>what he does, but he built a working Jeff Peterson

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<v Speaker 4>and sent me the video of it, and it looked amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>And in the video Jeff starts talking and it's clearly

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<v Speaker 4>my voice as Jeff Peterson. But Jeff is saying all

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of things, not offensive things, but he's saying a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of stuff that I never said. And the guy

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<v Speaker 4>used AI to replicate Jeff's voice, and I wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 4>how I felt about it. I was very complimented that

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<v Speaker 4>he built this robot, but it was an odd thing

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<v Speaker 4>to present to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I don't know, it seemed a little strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know if I think about it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if that is the state the AI is it now?

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<v Speaker 1>So if anybody digs up any ship from the show

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<v Speaker 1>and says, I can't believe they said that, and they

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<v Speaker 1>try and cancel you, you can just say I say

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<v Speaker 1>that I was a somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>I would never say that. No, that's that's not that's

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<v Speaker 4>not Craig. That's a deep fake. No, that's somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fake. No, no, no, no, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Joyce and Robert Thompson with his puppet head. He used

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<v Speaker 1>to do in the puppet head and then use the AIS.

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<v Speaker 4>That's Josh you know his big Halloween display. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 4>does this sad one man puppet show where he does

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<v Speaker 4>Craig's puppet head. And by the way, uh, I just

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I wanted to say this to you this

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<v Speaker 4>Over the years, there have been so many people that

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<v Speaker 4>have messaged me xt me, I don't know anyway TwixT

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<v Speaker 4>TwixT TwixT yeah, about James Cordon, you know, wanting me

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<v Speaker 4>saying the worst things about James Cordon, and I just

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<v Speaker 4>ever engaged in it. I always thought it was really

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<v Speaker 4>fascinating when when the version of the show that you

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<v Speaker 4>did ended, I don't know why people assumed that either

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<v Speaker 4>one of us would jump on the board with that

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<v Speaker 4>I got.

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<v Speaker 2>I got the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The people would say, hey, you know, they would say

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<v Speaker 1>mean things about James, who, in my limited interaction with him,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a perfectly sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Very nice man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and and they would always try and get say

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<v Speaker 1>mean things about him to me, like I like I

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<v Speaker 1>somehow didn't like him or was It's weird, isn't.

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<v Speaker 4>It like you were going to join in and go

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<v Speaker 4>you know, yeah, you're right, you know what. Let me

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<v Speaker 4>let me say because I went to a taping I

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<v Speaker 4>went to I think the last week of the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Very strange to go back to uh CBS studios, by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, I mean, it was the same stage where

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<v Speaker 4>we did our show.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they going to knock it? No? Are they? Or

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<v Speaker 2>are they? I think so?

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<v Speaker 4>Are they turning it into a mall? Is that the

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<v Speaker 4>legacy of Uh? Yeah, I think that might be it,

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<v Speaker 4>which is fine right me.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was great. I mean, there was a great show.

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<v Speaker 2>The writing was great.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought was very funny, and yeah, I just anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>I just never understood it. I just never participated in

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<v Speaker 4>that no reason too. It's very strange.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the kind of place I've come to with it,

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<v Speaker 1>the show that we did in Late Night, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>we're kind of like like Fish or The Grateful Dead.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not for everybody, but for the people that we

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<v Speaker 1>were for, we were really for them, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they get immensely loyal.

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<v Speaker 2>And for the people that don't get it, they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get it. I'm like, that's all right, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to get it. We have enough people who

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<v Speaker 2>really really get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And whatever the hell we were doing back then, I

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<v Speaker 1>still don't really understand, other than in fact it was

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<v Speaker 1>it's a piece of magical improv this chemistry. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, and actually is the argument I use against

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<v Speaker 1>AI when I'm discussing it's like, oh, okay, make me and George,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Thompson and AI and maybe they can't.

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<v Speaker 4>No, they can replicate the voices. But I was just

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about this yesterday. The interactions that you and I

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<v Speaker 4>had on that show is not something that you can

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<v Speaker 4>plan for. And I only have that with a few people.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you're at the top of the list. There's

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<v Speaker 4>a very small short list of people that I have

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<v Speaker 4>that with. The other guy is a guy named Jeff

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<v Speaker 4>Richards who is an astonishing comedian and impressionist, and he

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<v Speaker 4>has a show called The Jeff Richards Show where he's

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<v Speaker 4>never on his show. He can never make it to

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<v Speaker 4>his own show, so he plays a celebrity filling in

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of times I'll go on as George Lucas. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this is George Lucas, creator of Star Wars, and he'll

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<v Speaker 4>be Dustin Hoffman. And the idea of Dustin Hoffman and

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<v Speaker 4>George Lucas having a conversation for an hour is so

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<v Speaker 4>appealing to me, and I think and I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>that weirder, off center sense of humor that you and

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<v Speaker 4>I both share, as well a little darker. We were

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<v Speaker 4>doing stuff on the Late Late Show that I can't

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<v Speaker 4>believe we were doing on television.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we would never get away with now because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people would see it. Like when we were doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>it was going on late at night and then and

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<v Speaker 1>then that was it. But now it's replicated on the internet,

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<v Speaker 1>people would see it. Go ah, you can say that,

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<v Speaker 1>people like, right, Oh, it wasn't as it was Ai.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you this though, Well, when you're telling

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<v Speaker 1>me about what's the name of the guy you show

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Richards, Jeff Jeff Richards.

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<v Speaker 2>When I heard that, I got it, I'm a little jealous.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like a little jealous.

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<v Speaker 4>No, man, you're number one. You're the first you see,

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<v Speaker 4>You're you know, it's kind of like.

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<v Speaker 2>You hear that your ex is dating like a firefighter.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew you were gonna. I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>should I even bring this up? I'm gonna. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>mention this. No, I'm a little jealous. It's good to you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's you, Jeffritch. I mean, there's a couple other guys

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<v Speaker 4>if you want to say their names as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, let's just tell me. Give me your whole

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<v Speaker 2>list by don't you then? Who are they?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, listen, you know what you know, what you know,

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<v Speaker 4>what's very special about what we did is that you

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't see me. We talked about this before I came

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<v Speaker 4>on the show before, but that's the magic trick.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, like you were improvising to nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I was there, but you know you were

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<v Speaker 4>looking at this skeleton robot thing, and so that's an

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<v Speaker 4>even more difficult form of improv. That's a that's a

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<v Speaker 4>real magic trick. And the fact that it worked with that,

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<v Speaker 4>with that is is incredible to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, you know, I mean, I hate to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, knock it back, but I think that's more

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<v Speaker 1>about you than as about me. I think that the

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<v Speaker 1>you kept throwing stuff to me that I couldn't resist,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you would open the robots mouth and

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<v Speaker 1>have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Harmonica sound come out. Sure, yeah, the mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean things that there are things now even like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll be in the sh shower or something

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll think about stuff that we did.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll step laughing again.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that when we were doing that whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing where you and the horse were going to get

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<v Speaker 1>in a fight with each other and I had to

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<v Speaker 1>take it up and yeah, yeah, yes, I mean, all

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<v Speaker 1>done with body language and shouting.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, it's really, it's true.

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<v Speaker 4>It's true because because Joe Bolter, who was at the

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<v Speaker 4>front of the horse, had nothing. All he could do

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<v Speaker 4>was say yes or no really with secretariat, and the

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<v Speaker 4>mileage he got out of those two expressions was just gold.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I would say, kick his ass, kick his

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<v Speaker 4>ass man, and Jeff obviously couldn't move from the lectern.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think we were having a good time. I

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<v Speaker 4>think we were. It was like an in joke. Half

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<v Speaker 4>the show was just in jokes. I felt it was

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<v Speaker 4>just trying to make you laugh because I think towards

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<v Speaker 4>the end, certainly the last year, you were just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's enough already.

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<v Speaker 1>I think now, looking at the way that the business

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<v Speaker 1>is now, I don't even know anyone really who works

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<v Speaker 1>in that arena anymore. And you know, in kind of

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast television and those kind of big corporate environments, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be that.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything is like what we're doing now.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like where comedy exists in that environment. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the talk shows, I mean are there. I guess they're

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<v Speaker 1>still late night shows.

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<v Speaker 2>I never watched. They're still there. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, they exist on the phone, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's where I see maybe thirty seconds of

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<v Speaker 1>a late night show.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I ever see, right, I would never watch

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<v Speaker 2>one that started towards the end of our run. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that that. Yeah, I guess Allan. Allan was embracing

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube and all that stuff. He he got on it

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<v Speaker 2>right away. He got on a member of what it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was called Twitter before it was twigs and it was

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<v Speaker 1>he got into playing the hashtag game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to play that hashtag game one so on

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Filon's thing because the hashtag was my co worker

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<v Speaker 1>is weird? And I put and he's a fucking robot skeleton.

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<v Speaker 2>But they never used it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it would have been good, but they were like, what,

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<v Speaker 1>who what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's a robot skeleton? That doesn't make sense? Andrew swore,

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<v Speaker 2>So it doesn't make sense, you know, man.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's amazing how many people are finding the show now,

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<v Speaker 4>which we talked about, you know, a little bit ago,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's I mean, there's so many people just now

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<v Speaker 4>finding it just now.

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<v Speaker 2>So it just goes on and on, man.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's ten years after it went off the air,

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<v Speaker 4>so that I know that's really something special.

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<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>What's kind of interesting to me about it as well

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<v Speaker 1>as I don't know about you, I think you went

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<v Speaker 1>through this as well. For the first couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>after we were done with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of I didn't want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of like I was, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was respectful to it, but I didn't really want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't embrace it. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel the complete opposite of that. I'm like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very proud of it. I'm so proud of what

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<v Speaker 1>we did. I'm happy we did. Doesn't mean I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do it again, but I'm very connected to it

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that I wasn't for a little while.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I had the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I was a little I was a little

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<v Speaker 4>uh angrier about things. But you know the thing. The

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<v Speaker 4>thing about that is anger isn't sexy. That doesn't sell

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<v Speaker 4>very well. It's not like if I if I had

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<v Speaker 4>done cocaine or you know, if I had gone off

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<v Speaker 4>on a bender and then came back. I think people

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<v Speaker 4>would be like, oh, good for him, Josh is doing well.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you go well, Josh isn't angry anymore. People go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so so what join the club? You know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not sexy, it doesn't sell, Craig, it's not a

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<v Speaker 4>good promotion.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good pop.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that I think that if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>get if you don't get angry, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, if you don't get angry, you can't do comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the or comedy that I am interested in.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean what I always loved about your comedy. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just Jeff, but the other you know, the characters

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<v Speaker 1>that you did on the show and the stuff they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're filled with such an existential rage.

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<v Speaker 2>That I that I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm talking the same rage that fuels you know,

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<v Speaker 1>South Park, the same rage. Have you seen a British

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<v Speaker 1>comedian called Stuart Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, not familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to see this guy the rage and this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is so awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he would be angry at me being complimentary about

0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.520
<v Speaker 1>his stand up Cad. I'm sure he would. It be

0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:46.879
<v Speaker 1>like he'd be like fuck, you know, it would be awful,

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:51.199
<v Speaker 1>but it is. It's amazing stuff, and I think converting

0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:57.359
<v Speaker 1>that kind of uh, it's almost despair. I think into

0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:02.280
<v Speaker 1>comedy is what a lot of people they don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I think comedians maybe understand it, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of behind the carton.

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<v Speaker 2>But audiences, I think, think, oh, that's funny. He's a

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:10.320
<v Speaker 2>funny guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, no, he's a funny guy.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, you can't get people the The audience

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<v Speaker 4>just wants you to entertain them and be funny or

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it is that you do that is your particular talent.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not really interested in how you get there. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's what I found out, you know, And I think

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<v Speaker 4>the big thing I learned was it's not about me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to get really angry about look at these YouTubers.

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<v Speaker 2>This is years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at look at the you know, Chewbacca mom or

0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.639
<v Speaker 4>somebody going viral and getting all this stuff, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm over here making this TV pilot that I spend

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<v Speaker 4>hundreds of thousands of dollars on it, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>one day it just clicks and you realize it's not

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<v Speaker 4>about me. It's not about me always sounded like such

0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:58.199
<v Speaker 4>a hostile phrase whenever I heard people say, you know,

0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.439
<v Speaker 4>it's not about you. John it's not about you. But

0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:06.240
<v Speaker 4>it's actually very helpful to remember that because it frees

0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:09.520
<v Speaker 4>you from that that upset, that anger. It's it's not

0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:11.560
<v Speaker 4>about it has nothing to do with me. Someone else's

0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:14.440
<v Speaker 4>success has zero too. I mean, you can be jealous,

0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:17.480
<v Speaker 4>that's a normal thing. We've talked about that before. But sure,

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't. It doesn't have anything to do with you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's it's what a lovely idea, what a great thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, well, I think the the idea also is

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<v Speaker 1>the Really, when it comes down to it, the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing you've got control over is your attitude towards anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, I mean it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't really have any control over the OtherSide world

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<v Speaker 1>beyond a sand amount. You don't know how somebody's going

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<v Speaker 1>to react, You don't. I love when right As would

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:45.080
<v Speaker 1>say to me, this joke is gonna kill and I'm like,

0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:47.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't know that, You're just you just want me

0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:48.760
<v Speaker 1>to try it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, But I don't know. You don't know. I

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:56.680
<v Speaker 2>mean you can guess. Have you been doing any stand up? No?

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<v Speaker 4>No, recently, not at all, not at all. I made

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<v Speaker 4>it decision that that's not the format for me. That's

0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:07.080
<v Speaker 4>not where I need to be where a stand up Yeah,

0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:09.639
<v Speaker 4>that's not I did it with you for for a

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 4>number of years and uh yeah, and then that cured

0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:15.280
<v Speaker 4>me of ever wanting to do it again, is what

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, I feel like I feel like

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:22.919
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, you know, Joshi, I do you know? I

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:25.639
<v Speaker 1>love you and I and I feel like I feel

0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:30.080
<v Speaker 1>like it is that you have great lakes of despair

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:35.000
<v Speaker 1>inside you that I think can be mined for gold in.

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 2>The world of stand up. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what, the stuff that excites me the

0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 4>most is the improv character stuff like like I don't

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:47.920
<v Speaker 4>We've talked about this before, but I think I've finally

0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:53.119
<v Speaker 4>figured it out. Like like with impressions, I enjoy doing impressions.

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't consider myself an impressionist.

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:58.879
<v Speaker 4>I don't get up in the morning and think, like,

0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 4>what voice am I I'll learn today? And there are

0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:03.439
<v Speaker 4>guys that are really good at that and that's what

0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:07.200
<v Speaker 4>they live for. However, if I'm in the right company

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.400
<v Speaker 4>such as yourself, and I won't name the list of

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 4>the five other guys, but no, I'm saying, you know,

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.639
<v Speaker 4>but if I'm around those guys, I mean in the

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 4>right frame of mind, in the right company. I'll do

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 4>it if it's if it's organic. But I don't like

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 4>the you get up there and you you be fun.

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:31.119
<v Speaker 4>I just I don't know. My stuff is more.

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:33.399
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to say performance art, but I like

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:34.920
<v Speaker 4>the improv aspect of things.

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:36.199
<v Speaker 2>I like just being I get it.

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean I for a long time, the hardest thing

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I've found was to start the show.

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:43.879
<v Speaker 2>I always wanted, how do you go.

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Up there and say good evening ladies and gentlemen. I'm

0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 1>going to know, try and say some things and hopefully

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:51.439
<v Speaker 1>it will make you laugh. And it took me a

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>long time to know I can get up there and

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:56.159
<v Speaker 1>stay good evening ladies and gentlemen. I Am going to

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 1>say some things and hopefully it will make you laugh.

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's all you really have to say. But

0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:04.920
<v Speaker 1>right there was a sense of I don't know, I

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 1>feel like you may have this. I kind of know

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:11.679
<v Speaker 1>you do. There's some kind of weird sense of shame

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:16.640
<v Speaker 1>or embarrassment or something that lives inside you as a performer. Yeah, yeah,

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you kind of you have to wrestle with a little bit.

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>It's because when I see some people go up and

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:24.400
<v Speaker 1>just talk about how great they are.

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 2>I am in all of that level of confidence. I

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 2>don't have it.

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, no, I Well we're seeing something interesting happening though, too.

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:40.879
<v Speaker 4>Where a lot of these comedians that have podcasts, I

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 4>find that their podcasts is more entertaining and interesting than

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:50.120
<v Speaker 4>their stand up and yeah, and they're very good at

0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 4>stand up, but I find that the longer format of

0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 4>a podcast gives some people the room to find those

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.400
<v Speaker 4>beats and present themselves in a different kind of way

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 4>that I find more appealing. You know, there's there's a

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 4>number there's a bunch of big comics that do their

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 4>podcasts and then they use that as the platform to

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 4>get you to go see obviously, go see the show.

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:17.160
<v Speaker 4>But I think you know that somehow that's more appealing

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.879
<v Speaker 4>to me listening to their to their podcast, it's just

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 4>a different animals.

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Do you like Joe Rogan and people like that? Is

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:23.879
<v Speaker 2>that who you listen to?

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Joe Rogan I think is interesting. You know, I

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:31.160
<v Speaker 4>find it entertaining, sometimes educational, you.

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Know, I don't, I don't.

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:34.679
<v Speaker 4>I don't swear by it, But like THEO Von I

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:38.239
<v Speaker 4>think is THEO Von is is a guy who is

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 4>so unique in his voice. He's so I've watched him

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 4>become more confident as a host, as a as a person,

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 4>as a human being.

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 2>So we're you know, that's the other thing. You're you're

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 2>watching people.

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 4>You're spending time with these people on a podcast in

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:57.359
<v Speaker 4>a way that you don't get to necessarily in stand

0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 4>up And I think, like with THEO Vaughn, it's been

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 4>really nice to watch him grow over the years, and

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.679
<v Speaker 4>I think I think he's a fantastic host.

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm less familiar with Theo Vonne's work, Yeah,

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 1>obviously aware of Joe Rogan, who kind of almost created it.

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 2>He created this thing.

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:21.640
<v Speaker 1>It is like he created a new type of discussion,

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 1>a new type of a way of dealing with things,

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>which just fascinating to me. And I think he adopted

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 1>it early and he investigated it and he went at it,

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 1>and he he found and created a thing. It's so

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 1>unusual and rare to see a person do that. I

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>think it's it's fantastic.

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:39.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I like I like that he talks to

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, I just like that he talks to anybody.

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 4>That's that's h I mean, it's It's not as silly

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 4>as when I used to watch the Morton Downy Junior Show.

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, in the eighties we had Heraldo and Morton

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 4>Downey Junior Show.

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 2>A lot of that.

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:57.959
<v Speaker 4>Stuff was staged, but but it it retains some of

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 4>the essence of that in the sense that it takes chances.

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, Joe can do whatever he wants.

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:07.680
<v Speaker 4>It's his own format, and it speaks to what broadcasting

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 4>used to be, you know, the USA coming from the

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 4>public access local TV world as I do, which is

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.920
<v Speaker 4>what you're saying, right, and that's what our show was

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 4>a we you joked about that the show was broadcast

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 4>from CBS's basement, but we were essentially doing public access

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 4>TV on network television, and I think the show was

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.400
<v Speaker 4>better for it. That's that's the free We had such

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 4>freedom that we would never have now. I don't think

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 4>we would ever have that freedom now.

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:36.439
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know.

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's weird because there are so many

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>whenever I rub up against the the executive world.

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 2>It used to be.

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 1>When you talk to executives and show business in Hollywood,

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>they were people who were fans of show business.

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 2>They had things that they liked they had.

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, I feel that there's less and less and

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>less of that when I talk to executives now. There

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>are people who worry about redsheets and algorithms and two

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>screen interaction and all these things that they say now,

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and they worry about the business of being successful rather

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>than being excited about what they're making.

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Now. I think there's always been an element of that.

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's kind of like tipped into this

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>weird mintioning machine that.

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there were always the factory. You know.

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>My mother of the car type show is that you

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>just wrong through right there and try anything. But they

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:31.479
<v Speaker 1>don't try anything.

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like when I see something new, I'm genuinely shocked.

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, I can tell you that even like you know,

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:43.239
<v Speaker 1>procedural like crime dramas you go and that's him, you know,

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>that's who did it, that's you know, that's the guy

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and this is the thing, and all you're meant to

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 1>think of this guy.

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm just getting old.

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>There is that possibility I've seen too many things and

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>it's time to stop it.

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't it get to that.

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 4>I think it does get to that point where, yeah,

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 4>all the themes you recognize, all the themes. There's only

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 4>a few basic themes and plots and variations, variations, variations,

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 4>you know. But but that's what that's why someone like

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 4>Joe Rogan is important. You may not agree with what

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 4>Joe Rogan is doing. You may, you know, you don't

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 4>have to. That's not the point. That's that's impossible. That's

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 4>a silly thing to strive for. You're never going to

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 4>agree with what everything that somebody says. But it has

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 4>to exist. The fact that Joe's show exists is important,

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 4>and we don't need networks for that. I mean, then again,

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 4>he made a you know, multi billion dollar deal with

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 4>big network, but still.

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Fair great to him though, I mean I would have to.

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, absolutely the right thing to do.

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like what people say, uh, you know, when amb

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>is ever accused of sailing out, I'm thinking, have.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 2>You ever met a performer in your life? Is the goal?

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what you want to see on that on the

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>poster is sold out?

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's that's what you want sold out? Yeah.

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, By the way, I will do impressions if it's

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 4>with friends that I enjoy working with, or if they're

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.479
<v Speaker 4>paying me money. That's you see that's the thing. If

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm being paid, I'll do it. You know, if it's

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 4>good money, i'll do it.

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 1>You see all these posh English actors who come from

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, very wealthy family saying, well, I wanted to

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>see if the pop was something that.

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to do.

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>This is how I know I want to do it.

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 4>It's like you how many that I'll do it? How

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 4>many zeros are there? Yeah, I'll do it.

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean even it's like, was it Michael Caine when

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>they said have you seen without Jaws?

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Thing that he did? Is? Have you ever even seen it?

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, but I've seen the house that it

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>built and that's enough, you know.

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's true.

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 4>That's why Nicholas Cage has a sconces of his own arms,

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 4>his own arms, his.

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 7>Bills, got to pay off the bills.

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:01.719
<v Speaker 4>He did, He go by, he booked too many. He's

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 4>probably gone bankrupt. You know, five or six times he

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 4>seems like he's doing okay.

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 2>He seems like he'd be all right. He's having a resurgence.

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>He is, but like it's it's all good stuff.

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, it's it's a more sanitized I like

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 4>like when Nicholas Cage did the sequel to Bad Lieutenant.

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 4>You remember Bad Lieutenant with Harvey Kite.

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I remember a sequel Bad Lieutenant as a sequel, Yeah.

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he did a he did Bad Lieutenant. Uh.

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 4>Port of Call, Port of Call, New Orleans. It's it's amazing.

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, it's worth I haven't seen it. I know

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 2>the one you're talking about.

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because the first one was Harvey Kitel. Harvey Kittel

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 4>was nude through most of the movie. You walking around

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 4>dancing naked and doing all kinds of it's a it's

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 4>a it's a fun two hours to spend.

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 2>With the family. You're going to really enjoy that one.

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 2>But that's idea.

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 4>That's the film I miss I'm like Abel Ferrara directed that.

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 4>I missed that early nineties. You know a lot of

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 4>these films now, like A twenty four, they're fine, but

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 4>they say they're taking these big swings and they're doing

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 4>all these controversial things. Don't I don't get. Maybe it's

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 4>because it's not shot on film anymore.

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't get that.

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:16.719
<v Speaker 4>I missed that early nineties, late eighties, the seediness of film.

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, those kind of movies that were taking chances.

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Did you see salt Burn? I did see Saltburn.

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 1>It's funny because no like spoiler, but you know when

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the guy with the big penis wins the day and

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 1>gets the big castle. Yeah, as speaking of someone who's

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>owned the castle, and like, you wait till the first

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>heating bill comes in and we'll see how good you

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>feel about that.

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 4>Mister big penis. I want to see the sequel to that.

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 4>Mister big Penis pays his bills. Yeah's a mortgage.

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, mister big Penis gets the heating bill, and then

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>you know the roof has to be redone because it

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been done since fifteen twenty eight and all that.

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 2>It all gets old pretty.

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 4>Fast, coming soon from a twenty before the sequel to Saltburn,

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 4>Mister big Penis pays the bills.

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>And in it he pays the bills, and he has

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>to pay the bills by selling his big penis in installments.

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.919
<v Speaker 2>He sells his big penis. I thought, okay, I thought,

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean he sells. Maybe he sells he rents out.

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying is becomes a prostitute.

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 4>He becomes a maybe shoot, okay, that's good, but maybe

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 4>the Sconces in his castle are castle Penis.

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 2>The Wisconsors are my penis or my penis?

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Would you ever have a body part as a scone

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>foot part of your body part could be a sconce?

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't think. No, you don't think you're paying penis. No.

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I think my penis could maybe be a candle holder Wollscones.

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I.

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Think my Wollscones days are behind me. I think that

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>i'd be more maybe a light, maybe a reading.

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 4>Light, yeah, a little little reading lad at the sight

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 4>of the bad book. Maybe a book, a book light,

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 4>maybe a small book light that you clamped to the

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 4>to the back of the book. You clamp because look, man,

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm getting into my penis scance years. I'm about to

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 4>turn fifty. I'm about to be the age that you were.

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 4>You were maybe a year older than me when the

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 4>show ended.

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I am fifty two, maybe some of that.

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 4>So I'm I'm going to turn fifty. So it's penis

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 4>sconce time. This is my penis scnce era.

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Man, are you worried about turn fifty? I hated turn fifty.

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>It freaked me out.

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:56.760
<v Speaker 4>I was now why why were why were you so Upseide.

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 4>I just thought, oh my god, this is off.

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, the day after I turned fifty, I

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, fucking ridiculous, doesn't matter at all. But on

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the lead up to my fiftieth birthday, I was getting

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>very tense. But I wouldn't let the kids talk about it,

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>or answered like I don't want to talk about it,

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, yeah, we weare to get your present.

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, get back to work because the nobody

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:16.839
<v Speaker 1>mentioned a fucking thing.

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 6>I'm turning, get the fuck out away, the boating light,

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 6>the penis. But I I feel like I wanted to.

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 4>But do you wantry you about? You wave again? Odu

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 4>no man I. I I love it because I and

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:37.959
<v Speaker 4>I wish. I wish I had felt this way while

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 4>we were doing the show. I wish I had this

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.240
<v Speaker 4>perspective ten years ago. But isn't that always the way?

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 4>The way that I feel now is I don't want

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 4>to say zen, but I I can't remember why any

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.400
<v Speaker 4>of the stuff that I thought was such a big

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 4>fucking deal. I know it was a big I can't

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 4>even figure it out, uh, I know. And it's a

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:03.280
<v Speaker 4>very peaceful place to be because I just make stuff

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 4>for myself and if people like it, fine, If they don't,

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:10.800
<v Speaker 4>I really don't care. I don't mean that in a

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 4>derogatory negative way. I just it's fine. Man, Like I

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 4>don't know, you just sort of come into your own

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 4>and as you get older, you you also like, what

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 4>am I going to spend my time with. I used

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:30.399
<v Speaker 4>to say yes to everything because there was that desperation.

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the late after the show ended, I didn't

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:35.839
<v Speaker 4>have a lot of money. I was like, oh shit,

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:37.839
<v Speaker 4>I guess this is it for me. I guess it's over.

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 4>So I'm gonna say yes to everything. And I have

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:43.400
<v Speaker 4>to say yes to everything. But now I don't because

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, you've only got so much time. Man, we

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 4>got to be selective.

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 1>If you told me about the end of the show

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>that that was one of the things that I had

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 1>to come to terms with because I was the age

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you are now, which was when I was fifty years old.

0:37:57.560 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>They were coming to me and saying, well, we can

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>do another years and another set of numbers of money,

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 1>and I realized that I was negotiating with a commodity

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that I didn't really have, which was time.

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I was you know, well, it's only another year. It's

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 1>only another two years, it's only another five years or

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, and you go, but I but I

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I have that it would be And

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I felt like, you know, looking back on it now,

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>I clearly I did have that time, but I didn't know,

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I and I didn't want to keep

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to hate the show. I didn't want

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 1>to get to a point where I hated it. You know,

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>there were nice I think there are nice in any

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>job where you think, oh, fuck this shit, I can't

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 1>do this again.

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't.

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I really, I was so fucking rare that that I

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>ever felt that when we were doing Late Night, but

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>in the like maybe about a year or maybe eighteen

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.320
<v Speaker 1>months before we actually finished, that's when I was getting

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.719
<v Speaker 1>the closest to it, when I was like again with

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 1>this again, And the only thing that made me laugh

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.839
<v Speaker 1>actually was the ship that we were doing, yeah, you know,

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and that was the only thing. And I feel like,

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:11.800
<v Speaker 1>now if i'd have known then, why, I know not

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 1>they said, well, let's just cut everything and we'll just

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>do you know, the Jaff and Craig Covidy art and

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 1>that's what we'll do, right, you know, yeah, and that's

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 1>what we should have done. You know, I think is

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>just let me just do that, just do what we want.

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 1>But they would have fired us.

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 4>You understand that, Well, yeah, sure we probably would have

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 4>gone another's couple of months. At least you could have

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 4>you could have squeezed a few more months out of

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 4>that show. Yeah, but you know, you know when you know,

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.360
<v Speaker 4>like I, But I have also, as I've gotten older,

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.319
<v Speaker 4>realized that two things can be true. Like I used

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 4>to have this attitude of I'm sick of doing impressions

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 4>and that's it. I want to write. I want to

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 4>be a writer, and I'm a filmmaker. That's what I do,

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 4>so so I have to just fuck doing impressions and

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm done being a voice actor. But now it's like, no, dude,

0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 4>you can do both things. And by the way, what

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:03.959
<v Speaker 4>an credible job I have. I am so grateful. It's

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:08.720
<v Speaker 4>like my commute is twelve feet from the bedroom down

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:12.280
<v Speaker 4>to my studio, which is in my home, and everything

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 4>I do is from home. So it's like I get

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:16.759
<v Speaker 4>up early in the morning and I write and I

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 4>work on you know, some of these other projects that

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 4>are really near and dear to my heart, the stuff

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 4>that really gets me up in the morning and keeps

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 4>me excited about creating, and then I do the other stuff.

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 4>The other stuff's fine. It's not my first love. But

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 4>I just don't say that publicly. I just you know,

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 4>people enjoy that stuff, and that's great. They enjoy the

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 4>silly things, and that's the right attitude.

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 2>I think that is right.

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that sometimes I would do a

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>show and something would come back stays afterwards and I

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel it was a good show, and they'd enjoy

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 1>the show and they say I love the show, and

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 1>you go, oh, I wasn't a.

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Good one, and I felt like, you're robinam of that thing.

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>So now, no matter what, I'm like great, because I'm

0:40:58.719 --> 0:40:59.959
<v Speaker 1>not the best judge of either.

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not the best.

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Judge of of what I do, and and sometimes I think,

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I know you pretty well over the years.

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 2>You're kind of like that too.

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:12.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're not the best judge of how it

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:13.799
<v Speaker 1>played out.

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:15.879
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like so true.

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:19.799
<v Speaker 1>It's like true, man, you throw your thing out there

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.399
<v Speaker 1>and then stay out of the result. It's like you're

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you're not you know, being asked to judge it. You're

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>being asked to judge it before it happens, after it happens.

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 2>It's somebody else's joke. It's true. Years ago, I did

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:31.800
<v Speaker 2>an indie film.

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 4>I was the star of a romantic comedy that a

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 4>then friend of mine made, and you know, when when

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.399
<v Speaker 4>the film came out, I got I just I'm thinking

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 4>about this now and I'm just getting douche chills.

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Man, I feel like I just I can't.

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 4>I want to call the guy right after this and

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 4>just go, hey, man, I was so.

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Publicly rude about that film.

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 4>Now I think now about how much it takes to

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 4>make a film and what an accomplishment it was, and

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 4>just you know, yeah, and I just so cavalierly was

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 4>like nad.

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 2>And you like that movie. That movie sucked as a

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 2>piece of shit movie.

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 4>I just could not conceive of speaking that way now,

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:15.439
<v Speaker 4>And it's you know I did.

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I've done exactly the same thing. I did exactly the

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>same thing about a movie that I wrote and I

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:23.800
<v Speaker 1>directed and I started and I've bad messed that film

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 1>for the last twenty years. And you know, and then

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>the truth of the matter is it's an okay film.

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>It's an okay film, and if you enjoy that film,

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 1>that's great. I'm really glad you enjoy it. And I

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 1>deeply regret exactly as you say, like like I'm such

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 1>a I'm so great, I shouldn't have made that film.

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 2>What a dick, you know.

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like I that's the film I made,

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and there is I hope you enjoy it.

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:48.799
<v Speaker 2>See you next time. Yeah, you got it. You gotta

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 2>do it. You gotta do it like George Lucas does it.

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 2>You just have to.

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 4>You just quietly recut your film and then you go

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.320
<v Speaker 4>all right, No, this is the this is the film.

0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:59.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm destroying all the other films and this is the

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 4>only one that exists, which I which I admire. But yeah, dude,

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's a big accomplishment. I mean, you you

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 4>made a film. I think it's a great film. But

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 4>you were in a different who you were at that

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:14.839
<v Speaker 4>time when you made it, when you wrote it, when you.

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Were talking about it. That's it's a whole different it's

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 2>a whole different world from where you are now.

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>It is I and I think the idea, the kind

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 1>of it is that thing you're talking about about the

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>agent process.

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:30.439
<v Speaker 2>But you just kind of go, why would I care?

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Why would I care about it? So I was talking

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.879
<v Speaker 2>to you know, the film critic Ao Scott.

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 1>And and he's given me some pretty tough reviews over

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 1>three years. But I had him on this podcast and

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I was talking about that, and we were kind of laughing,

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:50.439
<v Speaker 1>like it doesn't matter. And also he had said when

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 1>he was younger, when he saw a bad film or

0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 1>a film he didn't like, he would take it as

0:43:55.800 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>a personal front, like he'd get angry. And he doesn't

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>get that way anymore. Is there an earthquake you're happening?

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:06.959
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, man, my camera's got a mind of its own.

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:11.919
<v Speaker 2>I apologize it went. Is there a scary picture next

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 2>to you?

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 4>No, no, don't don't worry about that, Craig. That's uh,

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 4>that's the penis wall Scance. I really didn't want you

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 4>to see that. Yeah, it's back there. But you were

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 4>talking to Ao Scott. I'm so sorry. The camera was

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 4>going great.

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, just the fact that he was saying, when he's

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>so a movie that he didn't like when he was young,

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>he would consider it a personal affront.

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 2>And he can't understand why he felt that way. Now

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:39.800
<v Speaker 2>it seems so odd. Oh it's so true.

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.160
<v Speaker 4>I when I worked at Blockbuster Video, I was a

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:46.400
<v Speaker 4>I was a manager at Blockbuster Video, and man, the

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 4>ship that I it was like that movie High Fidelity,

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 4>one of my favorite films with John Cusack. It's a

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 4>brilliant film. I think the Nick Hornby novel. Yeah, it's

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 4>a fantastic it's a it's a great, great film, folks.

0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 4>If you're listening, if you haven't seen it, please check

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 4>it out. But I felt like that guy. I felt

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:13.839
<v Speaker 4>like Rob in that movie working at Blockbuster Video because

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.240
<v Speaker 4>I was just anybody's movie choice.

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Any movie that they brought up to the front.

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 4>Desk, I would just go, oh, really, you're gonna You're

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:23.759
<v Speaker 4>gonna watch Armageddon?

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, Armageddon's a piece of shit.

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 4>Oh the shit that I would talk on Michael Bay, who,

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 4>by the way, I absolutely have so much admiration for.

0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:36.319
<v Speaker 4>I think I own most of Michael Bay's films. There's

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 4>no way I could do what Michael Bay does. Michael

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:43.359
<v Speaker 4>Bay is so fucking good at what he does. He

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 4>is incredible. I would love to meet him. I'd love

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 4>to hang out and watch him work. But at the time,

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:51.280
<v Speaker 4>when you're twenty twenty one and you're full of pisson vinegar.

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 4>You know that's what you did. But now you get

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 4>a YouTube channel and you do that instead. I guess

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 4>that's how that works well.

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:00.359
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, it makes me feel bad for

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>the younger a little bit because there's documentary evidence of

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 1>everything that. So if you go like like twenty five

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.319
<v Speaker 1>year old thirty five year old Craig Fergus and the

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:13.280
<v Speaker 1>bullshit that he's speaking.

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 2>It'd be pretty hard to find.

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 1>But there's some out there, I'm sure, But most of

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:22.760
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't recorded, you know, I wasn't speaking it into

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the ether that is going to live forever in digital form,

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I'm so glad I wasn't, you know,

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>recording my stand up when.

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I was twenty four, twenty five years old. God knows

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.240
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. Oh God, nothing is going to endear

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:37.840
<v Speaker 2>me to people, know, you know, I mean.

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 4>That's I was sure I was going to ask you that,

0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:43.400
<v Speaker 4>because yeah, imagine if you if you had, if you

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 4>were live streaming while you were drunkenly wandering the streets of.

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Scott can you imagine?

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Because I did, I'm saying it because I did, because

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 4>I did, And you know, it was kind of a

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 4>weird performance art.

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Some of it was bullshit, a lot of it was real.

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 4>But and I think in a weird way for this

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 4>new audience, in this new era of social media, in

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 4>a very strange way, it endeared me to a lot

0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 4>of people.

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 2>It actually made me more vulnerable and real.

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 4>To a lot of people. But it's also something I

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:16.359
<v Speaker 4>would never do again. It also did fuck me up

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 4>for quite a number of years. And you know, but

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:24.080
<v Speaker 4>you're right, it's forever. Someone out there still has those things.

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure, just waiting for the right moment. And you

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 4>know what my response would be, Ah, what am I

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 4>going to do? That was then I was an idiot?

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:34.400
<v Speaker 2>What can I do?

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 4>Spend the rest of my life atoning for just being

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 4>who I was?

0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look at you. It's to a zeveral of

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 2>us though.

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:44.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, I've written books and I've gone

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 1>back and I look what I wrote in the book and.

0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:50.799
<v Speaker 2>Go, Jesus Christ, right, like it's there now, it's in

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:51.320
<v Speaker 2>a book.

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 1>So you know, if someone reads that one hundred, one

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:55.799
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty years from that, I'll think, well, that's

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:56.400
<v Speaker 1>what he thought.

0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Well I thought it at the time.

0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I wrote the book, you know, six months later I

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:03.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't like that, you know, and then I was like, oh,

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that's wrong, but it was out.

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 4>There's nothing I could do but see that. That's interesting.

0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:12.919
<v Speaker 4>That's interesting because my obsession years ago was to make

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 4>sure that every single person that had that feeling about

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:20.359
<v Speaker 4>my work, every single person that took anything I said

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 4>out of context, I was going to go ahead and

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 4>reply to them and email them and message them and

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 4>try to turn them back around to my And you

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:32.359
<v Speaker 4>will go fucking insane if you did.

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 1>You will. Yeah, you can't interact with people that way.

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I just don't think you can. I don't think it worked. No,

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think also, particularly if you're talking about like

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 1>comments or things that people post on online, a.

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Lot of that it's not really even about you.

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 1>It's about you know, I hate my life. I think

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>his life is better than my life.

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm annoyed at that.

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:57.879
<v Speaker 1>Or I feel that his point of view is doesn't

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>line up with my politics, and so I'm annoyed at that.

0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's like, I don't think that it really works.

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 1>It's not like being in a room with someone. It's

0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:12.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of the way I feel about this podcast. Actually

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 1>which is I feel like in the world of like

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 1>talking to people for eleven or performative conversations, I think

0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm as good as anyone who does it. But I

0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 1>think when it's done online like this, I'm as good

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:32.200
<v Speaker 1>as anyone who does it online like this, which is

0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 1>not as good as I can do it in the room.

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I'd rather be like, I'd rather be in the room

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 2>with you right now, talk always yeah, right, And.

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's something that's kind of lost a

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:48.360
<v Speaker 1>little bit on a lot of people. But the conversation

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 1>that exists online even between we know each other pretty well,

0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:53.880
<v Speaker 1>but even this conversation would be different if we were

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 1>in the room.

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:56.280
<v Speaker 2>It would be Yeah, I agree.

0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 4>I have that same problem with the not a problem,

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 4>but it's with the podcast that I'm doing now, the

0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:05.800
<v Speaker 4>Spielberg Podcast, where we where we when we record the show,

0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:12.239
<v Speaker 4>My co host Eric Vespy is in Austin, and uh

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 4>we we do it obviously online, but there's no visual element,

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 4>So not only do we not we don't see each other,

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 4>So it's like talking out into the ether and I

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:26.479
<v Speaker 4>never have any visual cue of when someone's going to start.

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 4>Then you add a guest in there and I often

0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 4>on the show still feel kind of lost, and it's

0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 4>and but but I don't beat myself up about it,

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:38.239
<v Speaker 4>which is what I would have done years ago. I

0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:40.720
<v Speaker 4>just kind of go, yeah, this is just the format.

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 4>It's like what you're saying, this is it. This is

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:44.920
<v Speaker 4>just the nature of this beast. If we were all

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:47.800
<v Speaker 4>together in a studio, be different, be completely different.

0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:49.960
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not gonna sweat it. I'm not gonna worry

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 2>about It's like doing a talk show.

0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:53.400
<v Speaker 4>I do the Kelly Clarkson Show pretty I did it

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 4>just this morning, and that's an amazing show to do.

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:57.720
<v Speaker 2>It's so much fun. It's very easy.

0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:01.879
<v Speaker 4>I do her game show segments as the voice of God,

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 4>who sounds a lot like Morgan Freeman.

0:51:03.640 --> 0:51:05.399
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Kelly, what's going on down there? Girl?

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 4>But they're in New York now. They move the show

0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 4>from LA to New York. Thankfully, I still get to

0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:15.440
<v Speaker 4>do the show from here remotely. Again, the twelve foot commute,

0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:17.720
<v Speaker 4>twelve foot from an outlet, you see.

0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:20.400
<v Speaker 2>But I just go right into my booth and do

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:20.840
<v Speaker 2>the show.

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 4>It's just kind of a thing where if a show

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 4>doesn't go well, I only have five minutes to do it.

0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:30.520
<v Speaker 4>I only have five We had an entire show, an episode,

0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 4>an hour. I only have five minutes within the context

0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:36.000
<v Speaker 4>of someone else's talk show where they've got a lot

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:38.279
<v Speaker 4>of other things to get to and this is my

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:41.240
<v Speaker 4>moment to shine. But it's not about me, because sometimes

0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 4>you'll get a guest on who plays one of the

0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:47.240
<v Speaker 4>games and it's about them. They're really cooking, they're really funny.

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:50.399
<v Speaker 4>And I know, now just to back off. That's from

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 4>all the years, you know, doing the show that we

0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:55.160
<v Speaker 4>did together. I just know intrinsically how to do that.

0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:56.920
<v Speaker 4>I go, all right, I'm gonna let them have this.

0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 4>But I used to really beat myself up and go, fuck, man,

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 4>I should have done this. I should have done that.

0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:04.200
<v Speaker 4>I should have said that line. Fuck, it doesn't matter

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:06.560
<v Speaker 4>because there's another show tomorrow. That's what you that's what

0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 4>you said. I remember you saying it doesn't matter. There's

0:52:09.000 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 4>another show tomorrow. No one's going to remember it doesn't

0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 4>matter onto the next, onder, the next That's really.

0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 1>The adest and I still kind of feel that way

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:21.680
<v Speaker 1>as well, that there are people in my life and

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you are definitely one of them. Those five other guys.

0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:25.879
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not going to tell you who they.

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Are, Son of the therapy. Oh my god. But there

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:29.239
<v Speaker 2>are people in my life.

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:36.800
<v Speaker 1>No matter what you do next, I'm interested. I'm interested

0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and I want to see it because I know that

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 1>it will be it will be unusual. And I'm not

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 1>a big sports fan, but I used to watch Kenny

0:52:45.600 --> 0:52:49.600
<v Speaker 1>dell Gleish when he played for Celtic for Scotland in

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:52.480
<v Speaker 1>when he played football or soccer, and he's one of

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 1>those players that whenever he was in thirty feet or

0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:58.280
<v Speaker 1>thirty yards from the goal, you would score every time.

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:02.320
<v Speaker 1>But something really exciting happened every time. And that's what

0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it's about. It's like it's not always going

0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:06.480
<v Speaker 1>to be a goal, but it's always going to be

0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:09.759
<v Speaker 1>worth seeing. Yeah, And that I think is that's the

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:12.600
<v Speaker 1>mark of an artist. That's all right. You look at

0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:14.920
<v Speaker 1>every Pocasso and go, oh they're all great. Come on,

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:16.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them are shit, but you know he

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:17.480
<v Speaker 1>gets there.

0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:20.719
<v Speaker 2>In the end. That's you think. You know what? Man?

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 4>I go even I go one step further with my

0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:28.680
<v Speaker 4>photography and my music. You know, I like to do

0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:31.120
<v Speaker 4>a lot of ambient electronic music.

0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Guys.

0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:35.799
<v Speaker 4>I grew up listening to Steve Roach Vangelis, Robert Rich

0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 4>Tangerine Dream.

0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:39.759
<v Speaker 2>But I do this stuff and I put it out

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:43.680
<v Speaker 2>into the world, but nobody knows some people will find it.

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I've built a tiny little audience of people on my Instagram,

0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:51.440
<v Speaker 2>my other instagram, which is my music and my photography,

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's about one hundred followers. And this is not

0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:58.400
<v Speaker 2>to downplay the many other thousands of followers I have

0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:02.319
<v Speaker 2>for the other stuff. But somehow it means even more

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:05.880
<v Speaker 2>to me because it's like this secret, safe place I

0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:08.879
<v Speaker 2>go to to do the stuff I really like to do,

0:54:08.960 --> 0:54:12.719
<v Speaker 2>and it's not I don't even care if anybody sees it.

0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:14.640
<v Speaker 2>And because I've been doing it now for the last

0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:17.920
<v Speaker 2>couple of years, it's really gotten me into that headspace

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 2>where now I'm ready to do some bigger things and.

0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:23.799
<v Speaker 4>I just really need that. I have to have that

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:26.239
<v Speaker 4>place to go to. It's very very important to me,

0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:30.279
<v Speaker 4>keeps me kind of centered. You know, I would like

0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:30.759
<v Speaker 4>to see that.

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I will send it to you. Are you keeping it

0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:36.759
<v Speaker 2>secret or can just just say it to me? Not? Well,

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:39.440
<v Speaker 2>I'll say it to you, know, yeah, well, or you

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:41.480
<v Speaker 2>don't want it to me, No, I'll say it to you.

0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:46.080
<v Speaker 4>The name of my band It's Just Me is called

0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:50.160
<v Speaker 4>a Distant Sound of Trains, and the name of my

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:54.759
<v Speaker 4>Instagram is Distant Sound of Trains. My favorite noise as

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.040
<v Speaker 4>a little boy growing up was the distant.

0:54:56.680 --> 0:55:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Sound of trains. I know the exact Yeah, love it.

0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 2>You know the night and whistle at night. Yeah, I

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 2>know exactly what you mean. It's the great The.

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:08.879
<v Speaker 4>Sound travels, you know, the the error is different at night,

0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:12.480
<v Speaker 4>and the sound travels further. And there was something haunting

0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:16.240
<v Speaker 4>and the idea of like, there's somebody there in that train,

0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:20.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, somebody manning that train. There's somebody, there's some

0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:23.960
<v Speaker 4>person inside that in the distance.

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I have a great story for you. You just reminded.

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:29.759
<v Speaker 1>And I swore I was going to tell you and

0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I forgot, and you just reminded me. So about like

0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple of months ago, I was doing these live

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:42.000
<v Speaker 1>shows and I do these meet and greets after the show. Yeah,

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and these two guys come up after the show, very

0:55:45.160 --> 0:55:46.840
<v Speaker 1>well dressed. I don't know if there were a couple

0:55:46.880 --> 0:55:49.000
<v Speaker 1>of they were just buddies who were just like but

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:51.640
<v Speaker 1>they were both very handsome and very kind of like

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:53.520
<v Speaker 1>put together guys.

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:56.400
<v Speaker 2>And they said, hey, we want to tell you about ourselves.

0:55:56.480 --> 0:56:00.319
<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, I said, we're both amtracked.

0:56:01.400 --> 0:56:04.680
<v Speaker 1>And whenever we drive past each other on Amtrak, we

0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:06.160
<v Speaker 1>do this, we do the Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>Peterson no way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like that so awesome. Wow, isn't that great?

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing, man, I know that's amazing. That's really that's

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<v Speaker 2>out there.

0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:22.280
<v Speaker 4>That's I mean that, that's the shit that I love that.

0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:24.759
<v Speaker 4>That's and you know, you were, man, that's great. You

0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:27.000
<v Speaker 4>were talking about right after the show ended, where you

0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:28.000
<v Speaker 4>didn't want to talk about it.

0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't want to talk about it totally normal.

0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:33.640
<v Speaker 4>I was like, Jeff Peterson, f U, I could have

0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 4>probably handled it a bit better. Sorry again, my apologies

0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:39.520
<v Speaker 4>to those of you. But you know, anyway, there's a

0:56:39.560 --> 0:56:44.200
<v Speaker 4>guy named Bob Runkle. It's a great name. Bob Runkle.

0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:47.880
<v Speaker 4>Hey doing I'm Bob Runkle DJ Bob. He has a podcast.

0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 4>He's been doing it for close to twenty years. Bob

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:56.880
<v Speaker 4>is a lovely, lovely human being. He has cerebral palsy

0:56:57.560 --> 0:57:00.320
<v Speaker 4>and he wanted to be a broadcaster his entire life

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:02.440
<v Speaker 4>and he's been he's been doing it. I've been fortunate

0:57:02.560 --> 0:57:05.200
<v Speaker 4>enough to go on his show, and Bob was the

0:57:05.200 --> 0:57:09.319
<v Speaker 4>one who turned me around on all of this. I mean,

0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:13.040
<v Speaker 4>I appreciated that people loved the show and Jeff, but

0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:18.440
<v Speaker 4>the way that Bob talked about it, it just affected

0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 4>me so deeply, and I realized, my god, there's all

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 4>these people that got through terrible situations in their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Break up your job line?

0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:34.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, man, like I and you go, oh, I Like,

0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:37.440
<v Speaker 4>I was so focused on the two or three people

0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:42.280
<v Speaker 4>that were criticizing me, and I realize, now, what a

0:57:42.400 --> 0:57:45.880
<v Speaker 4>what a horrible insult that was really to all of

0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:48.200
<v Speaker 4>these other people that were like, hey over here, dummy,

0:57:48.320 --> 0:57:51.160
<v Speaker 4>we we we love what you do. But to hear

0:57:51.240 --> 0:57:55.520
<v Speaker 4>that people do the Jeff Peterson you know, hand motion

0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:58.440
<v Speaker 4>or say here come the play is and I mean

0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:01.520
<v Speaker 4>all people, even careful Icarus used to bug this shit

0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:04.960
<v Speaker 4>out of me because it was like it was like, no,

0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:07.600
<v Speaker 4>don't you guys understand this was a very painful thing

0:58:07.680 --> 0:58:11.160
<v Speaker 4>for me. And now I'm like, it's amazing. Some dude

0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 4>tweeted that to me that guy should be given royalties.

0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:16.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's like it's on T shirts. I have

0:58:16.880 --> 0:58:18.600
<v Speaker 4>my own T shirts as well. I don't know if

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:22.840
<v Speaker 4>you guys. But it's a careful Icarus and balls and

0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:25.360
<v Speaker 4>in your pants and all the stuff that we did

0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:27.400
<v Speaker 4>here come the Players is like the greatest one though,

0:58:27.440 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 4>Like I don't even I don't even know where this

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:33.080
<v Speaker 4>stuff came from, but it connected with people, and I

0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:37.280
<v Speaker 4>think that's the thing that I always have to remember about. Yeah,

0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:39.200
<v Speaker 4>what we did, that's the most important thing.

0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:41.720
<v Speaker 2>That's it. Yeah, I think that. I think that.

0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:47.120
<v Speaker 1>And we'll continue to do separating together shit that does that?

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Will we'll still be the Players.

0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:54.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, we'll sell our own respective T shirts. I mean,

0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:56.560
<v Speaker 4>you can buy Craigs, you can buy mine. I mean

0:58:56.600 --> 0:58:57.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, you know it's.

0:58:58.080 --> 0:59:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Them, and wear them different occasion. Yeah, just whatever you get.

0:59:02.040 --> 0:59:04.360
<v Speaker 4>Like, if you buy one of Craig shirts, don't like

0:59:04.680 --> 0:59:06.840
<v Speaker 4>tag me in it and go, hey, I got your shirt,

0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:10.160
<v Speaker 4>because you know, come on, man, that's not my shirt,

0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:10.880
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean.

0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:13.360
<v Speaker 2>And vice versa. If you buy one of my shirts here.

0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Say buy Joseph's shirts. They're the originals and they're they're

0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:19.840
<v Speaker 1>the real one.

0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:25.160
<v Speaker 4>Listen, Yeah, thank you, thank you. Two guys on Amtrak

0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:27.800
<v Speaker 4>trains in the night waving their arms on each other.

0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I just fucking loved that. Story though. It's the great.

0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:33.120
<v Speaker 2>It says it all, man, that's very poetic. It does.

0:59:33.200 --> 0:59:35.160
<v Speaker 2>And we've said it all. We're done, we're out of time.

0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Get out of said man. I'll see you when I'm

0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:40.880
<v Speaker 2>next to La. Did you survive all right? Did you

0:59:40.880 --> 0:59:43.280
<v Speaker 2>get smoke inhalations into it? Yeah?

0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:46.080
<v Speaker 4>I had a lot of that, but thankfully, you know,

0:59:46.480 --> 0:59:51.479
<v Speaker 4>in an area where not really affected Silverlake, not really

0:59:51.480 --> 0:59:54.960
<v Speaker 4>in any danger over here from anger from a lot

0:59:54.960 --> 0:59:57.040
<v Speaker 4>of other things. But yeah, it's a horrible thing, man,

0:59:57.200 --> 1:00:00.000
<v Speaker 4>I have I don't know if you have any friends

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<v Speaker 4>the oh yeah, lost their.

1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:06.280
<v Speaker 2>Houses and stuff. Yeah, yeah, more than one. I mean back.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, you know, it's just California's It's it's always something.

1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:14.000
<v Speaker 4>There's always fires, there's always earthquakes, but this particular, but

1:00:14.080 --> 1:00:19.120
<v Speaker 4>this particular one, the wrong right set of terrible circumstances.

1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:22.520
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, man, but thankfully, I'm glad you're you're in

1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:23.480
<v Speaker 4>Scotland though, right you were?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you not? Right now? I am?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm in Scotland right now. I'm actually in the

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<v Speaker 1>very furthest north you can go before it becomes Santa's House.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh right, that's right, very far north right, Now, tell

1:00:40.640 --> 1:00:44.160
<v Speaker 8>them I said, Hi, I will do Evil Center and

1:00:44.240 --> 1:00:45.920
<v Speaker 8>the next time I'm in LA, I'll get to see you.

1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'd love to man all right, and let's do

1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:52.080
<v Speaker 4>that Hollywood. We're having a Hollywood moment here, folks. If

1:00:52.120 --> 1:00:53.720
<v Speaker 4>you're listening right in the Hollywood moment.

1:00:53.600 --> 1:00:54.400
<v Speaker 2>We're having Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will come and do the The spiel Podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Please, we'd love to have you on THEE. I'd love

1:01:00.360 --> 1:01:03.000
<v Speaker 4>to do it. I'd love to do it. Ask my

1:01:03.160 --> 1:01:04.680
<v Speaker 4>name all Spielberg all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Polar Guist count because he didn't direct Poor guyst

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think, but does it does count?

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<v Speaker 4>I maintained that he did direct it? All due respect

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<v Speaker 4>to Toby Hooper, we can get into that. I know

1:01:15.880 --> 1:01:18.240
<v Speaker 4>you've you've met Spielberg. We don't have to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>it now.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't talk about it, but you know, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 7>I'll do my Steven Spielberger impression. I just put my

1:01:26.040 --> 1:01:29.040
<v Speaker 7>fingers like this, and Craig is fantastic. I just think

1:01:29.040 --> 1:01:31.240
<v Speaker 7>you're wonderful and everything you do is wonderful with your friend.

1:01:31.800 --> 1:01:34.240
<v Speaker 7>Why don't we let's let's hang out, let's do lunch.

1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:35.160
<v Speaker 7>Why not great?

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's great? Do you know when when he called me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know when you'd that thing you wait.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're when you go to Hollywood and you think

1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm going to one day, Steven Spielberg is

1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:47.160
<v Speaker 1>going to call me. I was in my car and

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<v Speaker 1>I put on the voicemail and it was Steven Spielberg

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<v Speaker 1>and it was I can't do the thing. But he said, Hi, Craig,

1:01:54.760 --> 1:01:56.520
<v Speaker 1>is Steven Spielberg. I just want to talk to you

1:01:56.520 --> 1:01:58.560
<v Speaker 1>about something. Can you give me a call back? And

1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:03.280
<v Speaker 1>he left the number and I was like, oh my god.

1:02:03.440 --> 1:02:08.200
<v Speaker 1>And I kept that voice for years. I would I

1:02:08.280 --> 1:02:11.440
<v Speaker 1>kept that voice thing. I was like, this is that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what I went to Hollywood for.

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<v Speaker 1>Just from the moment, yeah, you go, all right, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 2>Spielberg.

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<v Speaker 7>I got a great idea for a movie that's about

1:02:21.200 --> 1:02:23.640
<v Speaker 7>penis shaped sponsors that come to life. I think it'd

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<v Speaker 7>be great.

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<v Speaker 1>So weirdly that's what it was. But even he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get that made.

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<v Speaker 7>Even I just I just can't figure out how to

1:02:31.960 --> 1:02:34.440
<v Speaker 7>get the emotional connection. I mean, everything's there, it's not

1:02:34.440 --> 1:02:36.920
<v Speaker 7>gonna work, Rag, It's just not for me.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Carol Burnett, my Spielberg was meeting Carol Burnette at.

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<v Speaker 2>The Late Late Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the moments you live for, buddy, Sure really

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<v Speaker 1>are had so many of them. All right, pal, I'll

1:02:47.720 --> 1:02:50.240
<v Speaker 1>see you in a melia. Thanks for coming on the

1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:56.320
<v Speaker 1>podcast and yet again convincing me of your dark, brooding,

1:02:56.840 --> 1:03:00.480
<v Speaker 1>hilarious and offset or genius.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, buddy.

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<v Speaker 4>I promise you're still at the top of the list,

1:03:03.400 --> 1:03:06.880
<v Speaker 4>and come by and participate in the Halloween pageant anytime

1:03:06.920 --> 1:03:07.120
<v Speaker 4>you like.

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<v Speaker 2>I should.

1:03:09.040 --> 1:03:12.120
<v Speaker 1>We should do a live late late show on your

1:03:12.200 --> 1:03:13.000
<v Speaker 1>lawn and so over.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's see, Let's see how many people show up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what.

1:03:17.040 --> 1:03:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we could probably make that a little flashmoby.

1:03:20.720 --> 1:03:23.280
<v Speaker 2>I think we could get something going, funny dat. Let's

1:03:23.320 --> 1:03:25.800
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about it. Let's folks are not promising anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Calm down, we'll talk about it. Okay, we'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do it, all right, all right, get out of here,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, man,