1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio our number two. Danny 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: parkins in for Colin Cowherd. Danny Parket's from a new 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: soon to be expanded First things first, that is still surreal. 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: Chris brassardle join next hour. Mine now teammate on first 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: things first. Unbelievably exciting. It's really cool to be in 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: for Colin. I appreciate everyone allowing me to do it. 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: One down, two to go. Bruce Feldman will join us 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: in twenty minutes. How many teams have a legit shot 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: at the national championship and were the College Football. 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: Playoff goes from here? 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: But I know I'm not very popular in Philadelphia because 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: when you do these jobs, you end up talking about 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: the best teams and the best quarterbacks and the best 20 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: coaches and anything short of it's the greatest I've ever seen. 21 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: Is apparently blasphemous and Eagles fans are awesome. Right, You're insane, 22 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: You're passionate, you defend your guy, you should. Everyone's playing 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: the correct role here. But I just look at this 24 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: and I ask, what is enough? Because here's everything I've 25 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: said publicly and we'll say again about Jalen Hurts and 26 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles. They are the best organization in the NFL, 27 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: with the best offensive line in the NFL, with the 28 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: best running back in the NFL, with a top three 29 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: wide receiver duo in the NFL, with a top three 30 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: defensive tackle in the NFL, with a top linebacker and 31 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: a top young secondary, and a top general manager. Do 32 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: I also have to believe that you have a top 33 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: five quarterback? 34 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: Do I also have to believe that Nick Siriani is 35 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: the best coach in the NFL. 36 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 2: It's like enough that no amount of praise is enough, 37 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: because I think Jalen Hurts is the tenth best quarterback 38 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: in the NFL, who is clutch, is a great leader, 39 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: and is unbelievably smart. Jalen Hurts having nine different play 40 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: callers over nine years spanning back to college, speaks incredibly 41 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: highly to his football character and his football intelligence. 42 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts. 43 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: Playing not one, but two not good but great super 44 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: Bowls obviously is incredibly valuable. 45 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: No one would deny any of it. Clutch smart leader. 46 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: But I also think it's totally reasonable to say that 47 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: the guy who was twenty second in the NFL in 48 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:33,559 Speaker 2: past attempts last year is propped up by the system 49 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: at which he plays in and the guys around him, 50 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: and by the way anybody would be. 51 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: If you got to throw to Devonte Smith and aj. 52 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: Brown and be protected by Lane Johnson and Jordan Mylatta 53 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: and hand the ball off to Saquon Barkley, that's pretty good. 54 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: Anybody would want to be in that situation. Patrick Mahome 55 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: would want to be in that situation. Josh Allen would 56 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: want to be in that situation. Lamar Jackson, anybody in 57 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: the league would want to be in that situation. And 58 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: the Eagles could have Carson Wentz on the verge of 59 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: being an MVP. 60 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: Now he's a backup in the league. 61 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: He gets hurt and Nick Foles wins a Super Bowl 62 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: like they were in a Super Bowl with a different 63 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: coach and a different quarterback, and then a different quarterback 64 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: and then a different coach, and now it's Jalen Hurts again. 65 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: It's an unbelievable organization. I would argue the best organization. 66 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 2: But for some reason, the pushback then becomes, oh, so 67 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: you're saying you'd rather Jalen Hurts throw for four thousand 68 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: yards and forty touchdowns than just win. Not if I'm 69 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: an Eagles fan, obviously not. But if I'm evaluating a quarterback, 70 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: then yeah, that is exactly what I'm saying. The primary 71 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: job of the quarterback is to throw the ball. You 72 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: would say, no, it's to win. No, it isn't. Winning 73 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: is a team concept. Quarterback wins are not a quarterback stat. 74 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: But if you want to make it a quarterback stat, 75 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: I'm your huckleberry. Let's play the game. Let's show the 76 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: company that Jalen Hurts keeps among winners, and then the 77 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: amount of passing touchdowns that they have. Because he wins, 78 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 2: including the playoffs since twenty twenty one, at a clip 79 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 2: higher than Lamar, higher than Allen, lower than Mahomes, he 80 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: wins at a clip second best in the NFL. But 81 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: for passing touchdowns. For those guys at that clip, Lamar 82 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: Jackson one h five, Josh Allen one forty eight, Patrick 83 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: Mahomes one sixty, Jalen Hurts eighty nine, and then he's 84 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: got a ton of rushing touchdowns from the one yard line. 85 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 2: And so then you said, well, Danny, no one's saying 86 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: that he's better than Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or 87 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. Okay, but there is what he does to 88 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: contribute to the winning and again leader, smart, clutch, durable, 89 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: all incredibly valuable things. But a general manager once said 90 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: his job is summed up very simply. It's very difficult 91 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: to do, but it's summed up simply evaluate the individual. 92 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: Within the concept of the team. 93 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: Like if you're the best a deep ball wide receiver, 94 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: but you've got a quarterback with a noodle arm, tough 95 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: to really prove it. 96 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 3: Or if you're the best. 97 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: Deep ball receiver but you got an offensive line that 98 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: can't pass block, tough to give your quarterback enough time 99 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: for the route to develop for you to really prove it. 100 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: It is a complimentary game. We all understand that. Philly 101 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: fans understand that. But it's like I have to say 102 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: that he's a top five quarterback with a top five 103 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: coach if they are really that well then it's the 104 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: best team in the history of the NFL. And I 105 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: don't think anybody looks at Philly that way. They are 106 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: very good. They were very dominant. They started two and two, 107 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: they started throwing less and running more, and they basically 108 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,559 Speaker 2: ran the table. One lost the rest of the way, 109 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: and they bludgeoned people except for the Rams throughout the postseason. 110 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: That is a. 111 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: Really reasonable resume for a great team and a very 112 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: good quarterback. It's tough for me to say that Jalen 113 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: Hurts is better than Matt Stafford. It's just hard for 114 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: me to do because when I watched them play and 115 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: I see one guy sling it all over the field 116 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: and the team's success is predicated on him sling it 117 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: all all over the field, I believe that that guy 118 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: is the better quarterback, not the better runner, not even 119 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: necessarily the better leader. But that's what I think Eagles 120 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: fans miss in this conversation. It's not a knock on 121 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. It's a compliment to your organization that you 122 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: can be that dominant with a very good quarterback. It 123 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: is a compliment. It's not a knock on Hurts. He 124 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: deserves all his money Eagles fans should love him. Eagles 125 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: fans should want to trade Jalen Hurts for no one. 126 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: But you gotta admit, if Howie Roseman got the phone call, hey, 127 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert for Jalen Hurts, does anyone actually think Howie 128 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 2: Roseman would say no? 129 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: Does anyone believe it? Do you say it? 130 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 2: You say, well, Justin Herbert had four interceptions and he's 131 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: got two losses in a playoff gamp Oh, does anyone 132 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: really believe it that trade is proposed Herbert for Hurts? 133 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 3: Who says no? 134 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: Because I don't think Jim Harbaugh is leaving Michigan to 135 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 2: go coach Jalen Hurts. I think most people who evaluate 136 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: it watch it would stay. Yeah, he doesn't have the 137 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 2: playoff success, but he also hasn't had the quality organization 138 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: and line and receivers and defense and everything that Jalen 139 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: Hurts has. 140 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 3: And so maybe it's. 141 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: Impossible for Jalen Hurts to be regarded as the best 142 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: quarterback because he has such a super team around him. 143 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: Oh well, that's life. 144 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: You still have a couple hundred million bucks and a 145 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: couple of Super Bowl appearances and a Super Bowl ring, 146 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: and you can shut everybody up by continuing to win. 147 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: So everyone I think is playing their role correctly here. 148 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: I just don't have I don't believe that they also 149 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,119 Speaker 2: have the best coach and the best quarterback and everything 150 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: on their team is the best in the NFL. I 151 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: think some of their elements are the best, and it 152 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: props everything else up. Speaking of rankings, let's do it 153 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: for the sake of the exercise. Top ten quarterbacks in 154 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: the NFL heading into the twenty twenty five NFL season, 155 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: Number ten, Jalen Hurts I said it and I mean it. 156 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: He was like, you gotta give it more credit for 157 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: winning the Super Bowl. I am. He was outside of 158 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: my top ten last year. Mispoiler alert. He's ahead of 159 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott. He wasn't this time last season. 160 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts great leader, clutch, perfect for that team in 161 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: that system, but not asked to do nearly as much 162 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: for his team's success as the guys nine through one 163 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: on my list. 164 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 3: Number nine. 165 00:10:54,679 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 2: The Bake Show, Baker Mayfield is the poster child for patience. 166 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: We'll see what Bryce Young ends up being in Carolina, 167 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: but Baker Mayfield, man, they haven't figured it out in Carolina. 168 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: They haven't figured it out in Cleveland. 169 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: This guy the last two seasons comfortably inside the top ten. 170 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: He's first in passing touchdowns, second in passing yards, fourth 171 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 2: in passer rating, and sixth in yards per attempt. 172 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield all the respects. 173 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: Number eight Jared Goff, like Jalen Hurts, has a ton 174 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: around him, no. 175 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 3: Doubt about it. 176 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: But doing it with two different franchises, with the Rams 177 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: to a super Bowl and now the Lions as perennial 178 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: contenders year in and year out matters. And last year, 179 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: I mean, career highs in points per game, thirty three 180 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: completion percentage, passing, touchdown, passer rating, yards per attempt and 181 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: oh yeah, by the way, wins Jared Goff's stud and 182 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 2: he's playing up to the billing of being the number 183 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: one overall pick. Number seven. It's the best rookie season 184 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 2: I've ever seen. Jaden Daniels is the guy on this 185 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: list who at the end that top four is just 186 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 2: so ironclad. It's like Mount Rushmore, Hey, you know we 187 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: should do that as a sports radio hook. 188 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: Mount Rushmore? Has anyone ever thought of that? 189 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: But if there was a guy outside of the top 190 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: four who could jump in If Jaden Daniels builds on 191 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: a rookie season with the third down efficiency, the fourth 192 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: down efficiency, the winning the one score victories, if he 193 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: takes that Lamar Jackson Patrick Mahomes type of leap, he's 194 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: in the MVP conversation. 195 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: He's in the top four conversation. Number six. 196 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: Matt Stafford's been that dude for well over a decade. 197 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 3: As soon as he leaves Detroit, he goes to the Rams. 198 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: He gets better coaching, he gets a little better talent 199 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: around him, he gets a better system, and he gets 200 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: a ring in the playoffs. He's been a stud with McVeigh. 201 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: He's been a stud. And this one is still a 202 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: bit of the eye test. We'll see what the offensive 203 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: line is for the Rams this year. Left tackle's already hurt. 204 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: They've got some questions kind of across the board with 205 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: Humphreys there, but at his age, he needs good protection. 206 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: But if he gets good protection, there's really no one 207 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: in the world that's better at throwing the football. Number five, 208 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: except for maybe my guy Justin Herbert, who I think 209 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: is very Matt Stafford esque and still, by the way, 210 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: on the exact same career trajectory as Peyton Manning. Big 211 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: year for Herbert with Harball, with the running game, with 212 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: arguably the best tackle duo outside of Philadelphia in the NFL. 213 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: Five hundred plus pass attempts, three or fewer interceptions justin 214 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: Herbert last year. Aaron Rodgers give him more weapons, which 215 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: they did in the draft. The passing game produces even 216 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: more justin Herbert, absolute stud the fifth best quarterback in 217 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: the NFL. 218 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: Number four. 219 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: This one I struggle with, but I'm giving it to 220 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson statistically last year, him and Aaron 221 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: Rodgers only quarterbacks with more than forty passing touchdowns and 222 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: fewer than five interceptions. He was brilliant, but he didn't 223 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: win the MVP to Josh Allen. Once you get into 224 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: the top four, I think we are dealing with parsing 225 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: greatness among the guys in the postseason. And Lamar still 226 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: has a losing record in the postseason. But he's a 227 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: first ballot Hall of Famer. Give him a ring. He 228 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: jumps up on the list. Number three. Joe Burrow. I'm 229 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: not going to knock him for his defense. Joe Burrow 230 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: had a losing record in games where his team scored 231 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: more than thirty points last year. It's an impossibility. He 232 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: has a middle of their row defense. He's the MVP 233 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: of the league. Last year, his passer rating and losses 234 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: was one to eight point two, second highest passer rating 235 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: and losses ever for a quarterback lose eight or more games. 236 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow third best quarterback in the league. 237 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: Number two. 238 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's very clearly, 239 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: Josh Allen. If it wasn't for Patrick Mahomes, it would 240 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: be universally accepted that this guy was the best in 241 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: the NFL. He's second to Mahomes and wins, the second 242 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: to Mahomes in passing yards. He's second to Mahomes in 243 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: passing touchdowns. In the last five seasons, this is your 244 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: second best quarterback. This is your second best player in football, 245 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: which frankly ruins the suspense for number one. 246 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: Number one. 247 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: Mahomes is still on that Brady track. Through eight seasons, 248 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: he's still there. Double digit win seasons, he's still on 249 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: the track. The Super Bowls, he's still on the track. 250 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: The regular season wins, he's ahead of him. The playoff wins, 251 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: he's ahead of him. The conference titles, he's ahead of 252 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: him super Bowls. He's even to him, Guy's going to 253 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: play football for another ten plus years, and that Brady 254 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: conversation is going to start really picking up. 255 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: Give him that explosive offense back with. 256 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: The Spagnolo's defense, He'll just add more to trophy case. 257 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: There's your top ten quarterbacks heading in to this season. 258 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: What a perfect list, by the way. 259 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: I don't know though anyone could dispute anything on there, 260 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: except apparently Philly fans. 261 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: All right. 262 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: Coming up, realistic expectations for Bill Belichick this season. Nick 263 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: Saban Collins says he's going to. 264 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: The NFL as he closed the door on coaching. 265 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: Wes Bruce Feldman, Fox Sports College Football Insider. 266 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: Next one More Heard The Herd streams twenty four hours 267 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 4: a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. 268 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you like. 269 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 5: Hey, we're Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 270 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 5: five to seven pm Eastern. 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Listen Over Promised 295 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 6: with Covino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts 296 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 6: or wherever you get your podcasts. 297 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: Welcome back in to the Herd. 298 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: I'm Danny Parkins in for Colin and before we get 299 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 2: to Bruce Feldman, here in just a minute, we have 300 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: some pretty big news in the world of college football, 301 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: and that is that Dion Sanders has announced. We knew 302 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: that there was going to be a press conference with 303 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: his medical team, but Dion Sanders has announced that while 304 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: he will be returning to Colorado this season, he had 305 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: cancer and he had to have a tumor removed from 306 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: his bladder, and his medical team says that the cancer 307 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: is gone. He lost twenty five pounds dealing with the 308 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: cancer and complications from the surgery. So that is obviously 309 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: very scary news for Dion and the Sanders family, but 310 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: also very good news. If you can have a tumor 311 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 2: and have it be removed and have your doctors say 312 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: that the cancer did not spread and it's gone, right, 313 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: that's the there's like good versions of bad news. And thankfully, 314 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 2: Deon Sanders sounds like he got the best news possible 315 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: for a very very scary diagnosis. And so there was 316 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: obviously some speculation as to what was going to go 317 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 2: on with his health scare and his situation because there 318 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: was a video that had been put out on his 319 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: Instagram about him needing to create a will, and Dion 320 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: is just so he's so vulnerable, and he's so public 321 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: and he's so emotional that he is you know, he's 322 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: so in the public eye, and he has these kids 323 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: interests at heart that you knew he was going to 324 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 2: be public with these types of things, and so it's it's. 325 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 3: Good that this new. 326 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: You know, when you hear he's doing a press conference 327 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: with his medical team, your mind goes into, all is 328 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: he stepping away? 329 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 3: Is he okay? 330 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: Is this going to be an ongoing situation, which obviously 331 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: it still could be. You know, anyone who will tell 332 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: you, you know, once you have cancer, you'll get cancer screenings 333 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 2: and cancer tests for the rest of your life. But thankfully, 334 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: it sounds like, at least for now, that Dion Sanders 335 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: is good and on the other side of his surgery 336 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: and is getting ready to coach the Colorado Buffaloes this 337 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: upcoming season. Who, by the way, I mean, let's be honest, 338 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: how is it going to be better than coaching your 339 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: her son who gets drafted into the NFL and coaching 340 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: Travis Hunter? So absolutely uh, you know, the fascinating football story. 341 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: He was linked to the Dallas Cowboys and NFL jobs 342 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: and bigger jobs there. Dion's success at multiple levels as 343 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: a coach. You know, he's he's got the noise and 344 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: the sizzle to him, but he's also had the stake. 345 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 3: Did he win a bowl game? 346 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: No, but the ability to take a program that was 347 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: in the situation that they were in and get it 348 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: to respectability and get a quarterback drafted and a Heisman 349 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 2: Trophy winner and all of the things that they've been 350 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 2: able to do. It's it's an impressive turnaround. And he's 351 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: great for college football, both for interest and based on 352 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: the stories that come out of Boulder. He's great for 353 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 2: those kids in Colorado. So all the best of Dion 354 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: and there and the Sanders family. This is from the 355 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: press conference just moments ago, d and his doctors explaining 356 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: the procedure with a health update for Dion. 357 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 7: I discussed some options of treatment in the bladder, and 358 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 7: we discussed bladder removal as well. Given his commitments to 359 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 7: his family and to the team, elected to undergo a 360 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 7: bladder removal. We performed a full robot assisted labroscopic bladder 361 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 7: removal and creation of a new bladder, and I am 362 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 7: pleased to report that the results from the surgery are 363 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 7: that he is cured from the cancer. 364 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: Give a clap. 365 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: It's okay, you can clap. What an awesome panover from 366 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: the very serious medical doctor be like we had to 367 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: remove his bladder and build a new bladder, and we're 368 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: thankful to report that there is no more cancer. Cut 369 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 2: to Dion and a hat and small rope you can clap, 370 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: and normally the journalist and means like, yeah, we should. 371 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: Be clapping at press conferences. 372 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: That is an absolutely one hundred percent appropriate time to 373 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: clap at a press conference. And what an incredible panover 374 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: there was there for those of you watching on FS 375 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: one for Dion Sanders, because Dion is always going to 376 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: be Dion, but I would say, you know, Dion also 377 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: man the the content that he provides and the interest. 378 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: He's one of the greatest athletes ever. Not football players, 379 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: not in his generation. He's just one of the greatest 380 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: athletes ever. So for that level of fame and cult 381 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 2: of personality to then make this transition to coaching and 382 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: grind his way up from the lower levels to the 383 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: bigger levels and have the success and put kids into 384 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 2: the pros and clearly love it and be dedicated to 385 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: it is is really inspiring. It's like a really impressive thing. 386 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: And then you know, not to get too overly personal 387 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: with you here. But coming up in a few days, 388 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 2: I've got a big cancer fund that I'm doing on 389 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: the radio in Chicago in partnership with the Cubs. After 390 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 2: I lost my brother to cancer, and I talked to 391 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 2: all of these patients and people who share their story 392 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: with cancer, because we all know that it's affected everybody. 393 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 3: But when you get people. 394 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: Who are willing to be public with their journey, to 395 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: talk about that surgery, to talk about having a new bladder, 396 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: to talk about the weight loss, to talk about the 397 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 2: complications from surgery, and then to be in the public 398 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: eye going forward, it's not a stretch to say it's 399 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: obvious to say that it's inspiring. It's not a stretch 400 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: to say that it can save lives, people getting checked, 401 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: people taking ownership of their health. 402 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 3: So good for Dion Man. 403 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: That is a very impressive thing to do, to be 404 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: able to be public about it and to be vulnerable 405 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: in those moments. So that's a coach. You know, he's 406 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: made a difference in those kids. He's made a difference 407 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: on the football field. And I had a poster at 408 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: Deon Sanders on the wall frankly, but it was the 409 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: type of thing where it's like, man, now you have 410 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 2: this other human part of it. So good to know 411 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: that Dion will be back at Colorado this season and 412 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 2: we'll see how he could figure out a way to 413 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: move on from coaching his kid because he's not going 414 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 2: to coach the Browns and it doesn't look like Shador 415 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: is going to be playing quarterback for the Browns. But 416 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: now he gets to continue to build the legacy of 417 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: what he's doing coming up in Colorado. 418 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 3: So it's a pretty impressive thing. 419 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: And we're all glad for the health update there on 420 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: Deon Sanders. We're going to push Bruce Feldman back just 421 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: a little bit. It looks like with some big news 422 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: here on Deon Sanders, we'll have him in just a 423 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: few minutes. 424 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 3: So to the NFL. 425 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: There was a story over the weekend with Shamar Stewart 426 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 2: and the Cincinnati Bengals. The coverage of this story has 427 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: bothered me, and I'll explain why because Shamar Stewart has 428 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: not been doing anything wrong and now he's signed his 429 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: contract and he's in And Shamar Stewart was middle first 430 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: round pick for a terrible defense and a talented pass rusher, 431 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: and they needed shamar Stewart to get ready right and 432 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: they needed shamar Stewart to be there. Okay, fine, And 433 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: then the Bengals are like, we want to put language 434 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: into your contract that is not in any other first 435 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: round picks contract. It was not in our first round 436 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 2: picks contract for last year about what guarantees get voided 437 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: if you get in trouble for stuff that happens off 438 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: the field. And shamar Stewart's agent was like, no, why 439 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: are you doing that to my client. Do you think 440 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart's going to get in trouble? And they're like no, 441 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: we just want to protect ourselves. And then the owner, 442 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: Mike Brown, came out and he said some version of 443 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: you know, I don't think I should have to pay 444 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 2: a guy if he's in prison. And he's like, well, 445 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: whoa do you think Shamar Stewart's a troublemaker? That's not 446 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 2: fair at all. He's like, I'm not even saying that. 447 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: He's like, I just think that that's bad precedent. So 448 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: the Bengals are trying to set a precedent and Shamar 449 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: Stewart's agent does want to acquiesce to a precedent because 450 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: he's trying to sign next year's Shamar Stewart, right, He's like, 451 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: why would I get the next guy if I gave 452 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: up guarantees and protections that were collectively bargained and that 453 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 2: sort of thing. So and it ends up reportedly getting 454 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: You got an extra five hundred grand on his signing 455 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: bonus early, and you know, they worked it out, and 456 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: it cost him a few days of training camp and 457 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 2: it cost him some bad headlines. The Bengals side of 458 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: this is an organization that has the perception of penny 459 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 2: pinching for a defense that was terrible after signing t 460 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: Higgins and Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow that has a 461 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 2: Super Bowl ready offense under contract in its prime. Why 462 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 2: would you nickel and dime with your first round pick? 463 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 2: What are you doing here? That is reasonable? Now, I'm 464 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: not sitting here and telling you it's not. But Trey 465 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 2: Hendrickson is not even with the Bengals in camp, and 466 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson wants to get paid like Miles Garrett and TJ. Watt, 467 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: and the Bengals are like, ah, your sack production is there, 468 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: but your overall production isn't. And you're not as crazy 469 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: of an athlete, and you are a great player on 470 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: a bad defense. Those guys have been on better defenses. 471 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: And you're a. 472 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: Year older, and so we'll give you one year guarantees, 473 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: and he wants three years of guarantees. And so he 474 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: left camp and Trey Hendrickson has greatly outperformed his contract, 475 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: and so really all the Bengals have done now is 476 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: sign Shamar Stewart and change defensive coordinators. 477 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 3: But here's how I feel about contracts. They are. 478 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 2: The lifeblood of these guys' careers because they play the 479 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: most violent sport with the least guarantees. Baseball contracts are guaranteed. 480 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 2: Basketball contracts are guaranteed, and the injury rate in football 481 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: is way higher than those other two sports in terms 482 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 2: of injuries that can end your career. So they are 483 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: fighting for every dollar they can get, and they know that. 484 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 3: A team can cut them. Look what just happened with 485 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 3: the Raiders. 486 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: They're like, well, something happened with Christian Wilkins and how 487 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: he's recovering from an injury. So we are going to 488 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 2: void your guarantees and you can file your grievance and 489 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: we'll see how it plays out, Maybe Christian Wilkins will win, 490 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: maybe the Raiders will win. But that's why these players 491 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: obviously fight for every dollar they can to be guaranteed. 492 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 2: But and this is maybe a little fourth wall taking 493 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 2: you behind the curtain a little bit, But because the 494 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: NFL is so popular and everyone gambles on it and 495 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: everyone plays fantasy football on it, on shows like this, 496 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: it can drive the conversation in the way that regular 497 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: season basketball cans, that regular season baseball cans, that even 498 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: playoff baseball sometimes can't depending on the markets and the 499 00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: stars involved. So what's a good way in July to 500 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: get us to talk some NFL? Oh Man Terry McLaurin 501 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: and the Commanders are upset on their contract. Is Terry 502 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: McLaurin worth what aj Brown got? How can the Commanders 503 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: pay Deebo Samuel but not Terry McLaurin. And then do 504 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: you know how the story always ends with the player 505 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: signing the contract All the time in a post leveon Bell, 506 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: NFL players don't miss games. 507 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 3: It's incredibly rare. 508 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: Chris Jones missed one game and he had rings on 509 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 2: his finger and was dominated in a Super Bowl, and 510 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: he showed up to the game with his agents. 511 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: On either side of him in the box. That was 512 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: a big. 513 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: Story, and he missed one game and the Chiefs won 514 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl the year that he held out and 515 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: missed the game. Teams now have so much money and 516 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: there is so much money at stake for the players 517 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: that eventually you see in free agency the best players 518 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: in the biggest names don't leave in free agency anymore 519 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: because basically every team can sign their guys. 520 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 3: The Bengals are regarded as cheap. 521 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: I will be floored if they don't sign Trey Hendrickson, 522 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: and that means that the cheap Bengals will have signed 523 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase t Higgins, and Trey Hendrickson all 524 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 2: to market deals at premium positions. So contracts have a 525 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: way of getting resolved, and players are supposed to be 526 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: upset during the negotiation because the teams are supposed to 527 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 2: try to low ball them during the negotiation, and then 528 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: it eventually works out. Micah will be in Dallas, Hendrickson 529 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: will be in Cincinnati, McLaurin will be in Washington. And 530 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: is it necessary does it rankle some guys? No, It's 531 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: not necessary? Yes, and rankles guys but you know what, 532 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: let's bygones be bygones. Getting thirty eight million dollars to 533 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 2: rush the passer have a tendency to forget, give, and 534 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: forget a little bit. So we had the breaking news 535 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: with Deon Sanders announcing that he had his bladder removed 536 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: to remove a cancerost tumor. So we have the Deon 537 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: Sanders Colorado news. Massive college football games that are happening 538 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: in just a month, We've made it to football season. 539 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: Bruce Feldman next the Hurt. 540 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 541 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 4: in neon Eastern nin a Empacific on Fox Sports Radio 542 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 4: FS one and the iHeartRadio app Back. 543 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: In on the Herd of Danny Parkins in for Colin 544 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: Cowherd today, Tomorrow and Wednesday. Huge news in the world 545 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: of college football, in the world of sports, because while 546 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: Deon Sanders is a fixture in college football, he's one 547 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: of the most famous athletes alive and one of the 548 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: greatest athletes alive. Announcing that he had his bladder removed 549 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,719 Speaker 2: because of a cancerous tumor that was on his bladder, 550 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: that announcement coming just moments ago. So it's a great 551 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: time to Welcome to the Herd, Bruce Felman, Fox Sports 552 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: college football reporter and New York Times best selling author. 553 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 3: Bruce, thank you very much for the time. 554 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: Obviously good news that the surgery was successful, but your 555 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: reaction to the Dion Sanders press conference with his whole 556 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: medical team there at Colorado. 557 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's pretty jolting just to hear how serious 558 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 8: this was to have the bladder removed, to have it 559 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 8: was a cancerous tumor that was in there. They actually, 560 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 8: according to the doctors who were at the press conference, 561 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 8: they actually had the procedure done by robot. And when 562 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 8: one of the doctors was explaining kind of the process 563 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 8: here when when Dion was diagnosed with it, it was 564 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 8: like he was told, with this kind of cancer, there's 565 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 8: a fifty percent chance of reoccurrence, and he wanted to 566 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 8: explore his other options, and so that became this to 567 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 8: basically have an new bladder built for him and have 568 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 8: the old one removed. I mean, it's crazy because in 569 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 8: the course of this press conference, the doctor had said 570 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 8: this was his fourteenth surgery that he's had just in 571 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 8: the last four years, which is kind of mind blowing 572 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 8: that he's had that many procedures. I had seen him 573 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 8: at Big twelve media days earlier this month in Texas, 574 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 8: and he wasn't really back on the job at least 575 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 8: in terms of back with his team, But talking to 576 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 8: him for a couple of minutes, you could tell that, 577 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 8: you know, something significant had happened. It wasn't like this 578 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 8: was a guy who was on vacation for a month 579 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 8: or went to Europe or anything. And even for the 580 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 8: people I know who are close to him, they you know, 581 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 8: they really kind of stressed something, you know, significant had happened. 582 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 8: And now to hear it, it's really eye opening. 583 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's courageous to be public with anything like that. 584 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 2: So that'll make a huge difference both for the kids 585 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 2: in the program, but just anyone who follows sports and 586 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: here's that sort of thing. So again, congrats on for 587 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: the positive medical news there and in what apparently was 588 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: a successful surgery. Football is so secondary here, but they 589 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 2: kind of took the college football world by storm with 590 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter, who are not there anymore. 591 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: How do you follow it up? What are you expecting 592 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: from Colorado this season? 593 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 8: It's going to be I think a rebuild, not like 594 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 8: the rebuild that he and they had when they all 595 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 8: came from Jackson State and it was an awful program. 596 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 8: They had won one game the previous year, and he 597 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 8: made them respectable. 598 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 9: You know. 599 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 8: They went from four wins in the first year to 600 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 8: nine wins in a top twenty five season last year. 601 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 8: But as you said, now, his star quarterback, who is 602 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 8: the leader of the offense, his son is in the NFL, 603 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 8: and the real star of the team, the guy who 604 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 8: won the Heisman, Travis Hunters in Jacksonville, and he was 605 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 8: such a two way force and a difference maker. I 606 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 8: think replacing not just the leadership but the star power 607 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 8: of hey, we need a big play and those guys 608 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 8: could step up up and make it. We saw that 609 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 8: time and time again, especially with Travis Hunter. Those guys 610 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 8: are gone now. So you have new quarterbacks. Caden Salter, 611 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 8: who's played a lot more of a running quarterback from Liberty. 612 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 8: Juju Lewis is a seventeen year old quarterback who is 613 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 8: a big recruit. I think you'll see some version of 614 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 8: a split. You'll see probably both quarterbacks play. There's I 615 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 8: think there's more talent in the trenches right now at 616 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 8: SEU than they had in Dion's first two years. 617 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 9: I think they're. 618 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 8: Probably a little more balanced across the board. I don't 619 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 8: think they have the wow players and the splash players, 620 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 8: certainly led by Travis, and they have a real tough 621 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 8: opener Georgia Tech has to come to Boulder. But this 622 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 8: is a really good team. I remember this is the 623 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 8: same team that took Georgia to like ten overtimes Thanksgiving weekend. 624 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 9: They're good and they're physical. It is very much like 625 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 9: the same team, same style of team that. 626 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 8: Blue Colorado out Ny Alamobile, that bye team, really physical, punishing, 627 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 8: run game, very you know, very diverse in how they 628 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 8: attack you in the run game. And I think those 629 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 8: are the challenges that Colorado is going to have to 630 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 8: learn from and see if they're up to it, because 631 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 8: this is going to be a real physical test for 632 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 8: them right out of the gate. 633 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 2: Talking college football with Bruce Feldman, we are just over 634 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: a month from the two teams with the two best 635 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 2: title odds, Texas and Ohio State playing each other. 636 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 3: An unbelievable way. 637 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: To start it off for those two powerhouse programs. Who 638 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: has the. 639 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 8: Edge in this case, I'm going to say it's the 640 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 8: team that's the home team, which is Ohio State. 641 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 9: You know, so many changes. 642 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 8: Obviously, both teams are replacing quarterbacks. You also have on 643 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 8: the Ohio State side, they have to replace both the 644 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 8: offensive and defensive coordinators. Ohio State lost, you know, pretty 645 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 8: much its entire d line, whereas whereas Texas lost four 646 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 8: of its five starters. Who are going to be in 647 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 8: front of Arch Manning. Now, I think it's a really 648 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 8: interesting chess match here between Steve sarkiz And and Arch Manning 649 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 8: against Matt Patricia, who's now the defensive coordinator. Comes from 650 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 8: the NFL to the Big Ten. Now what I think 651 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 8: is a big help. In addition to it being a 652 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 8: home game for the Buckeyes, they have the best offensive 653 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 8: and the best defensive players in the country coming back. 654 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 8: Jeremiah Smith, who you're seeing all the highlights of now, 655 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 8: that great receiver. He's six three, two hundred and twenty 656 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 8: five pounds and is unguardable. You have to double team them, 657 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 8: you may even have to triple team them. And then 658 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 8: on the other side of the ball, Caleb Downs is 659 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 8: a phenomenal safety who makes big plays all over the 660 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 8: field and is really a leader and probably the smartest 661 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 8: defensive player in college football. Those two guys are such 662 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 8: difference makers. I think that gives them a big advantage. 663 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 8: And again, Texas is loaded. I think they're a top 664 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 8: five team, but with a rebuilt offensive line completely and 665 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 8: going into a real hostile environment and a team that 666 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 8: has such star power, I would give the edge, not 667 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 8: a huge one, but I would give the edge to 668 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 8: Ohio State at the start of the year at least. 669 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe Jeremiah Smith still can't enter the NFL. 670 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 2: The guy is an absolute beast. You mentioned the offensive 671 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 2: line in front of Arch Manning. You'll be asked this 672 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 2: a million times between now and the end of the year. 673 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 2: Do you expect him to be an NFL draft pick 674 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: at the end of this season? 675 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 9: I don't. 676 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 8: I think just knowing the Mannings and his parents a 677 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 8: little bit, I think they know that it's probably in 678 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 8: his best interest to keep getting reps and keep playing 679 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 8: and keep getting game action. Now it's a little different 680 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 8: these days compared to just you know, when his uncles 681 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 8: were playing, where the season could be a lot longer. 682 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 9: I mean, if Texas. 683 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 8: Is as good and does as well as I think 684 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 8: they're going to do, they're probably going to play sixteen games, 685 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 8: and that's a lot more than a twelve game schedule. 686 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 8: There's also more injury risk with a longer stretch. I mean, 687 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 8: he only started two games though last year. He's played some, 688 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 8: but not a lot. And I think just to be 689 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 8: a one year starter. Even if everything goes great and 690 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 8: let's say he leads them to a national title and 691 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 8: they go fifteen to one and win a national title, 692 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 8: I still think there's going to be some you know, 693 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 8: hesitation about is he ready? Is it in his best 694 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 8: interest to jump into the NFL? 695 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 9: You know? 696 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 8: And I talked to Cooper Manning his dad a couple 697 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 8: months ago. One of the things we talked about was just, 698 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 8: you know, he brought up about when you're ready. You know, 699 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 8: he's seen so many examples of, especially in the NFL, 700 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,240 Speaker 8: quarterbacks who might not be as ready as they could 701 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 8: be getting thrown under the bus pretty quick because the 702 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 8: process doesn't doesn't wait, doesn't have much patience. 703 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 9: But I think he's super talented. 704 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 8: Everybody I talked to at Texas raves about his football intelligence. 705 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 9: He's really athletic. I think he's in a really good position. 706 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 8: It's just I think time is something that's you know, 707 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 8: you can't put a price on that. I just think 708 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 8: that maybe the ad reps of being a two year 709 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 8: starter probably would help his long term development. But you know, 710 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 8: let's see, we don't have a crystal ball. We're just 711 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 8: kind of just kind of going on how we think 712 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 8: the process will play out for him. 713 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 3: All Right, I gotta do this quickly. 714 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 2: I feel like, I, oh, it's a Colin cowher since 715 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 2: he's letting me sit in this seat. What do you 716 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 2: make of this idea of Nick Saban maybe not being 717 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 2: done coaching and if he is better suited nowadays for 718 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 2: the NFL than college. 719 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 8: Man he's got to be seventy four in a couple 720 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 8: of months. I just I think he is, even if 721 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 8: he's tempted to look at the NFL. Look, you know, 722 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 8: Pete Carroll's around the same age, and he's in Las Vegas, 723 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 8: and he's got a ton of energy. 724 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 9: Saban seems to have a ton of energy. 725 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 8: I know from the conversations he had when he walked 726 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 8: away at Alabama, it was it was all the things 727 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 8: going around the sport and the way everything's run, just 728 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 8: he didn't need it anymore. 729 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 9: He seems like he's doing a really good job in TV. 730 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 8: I just think if he's going to jump back into it, 731 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 8: you know, that's not just him, that's him and his 732 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 8: wife who have to, you know, make that decision. I'd 733 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 8: still be very surprised, being in his mid seventies, if 734 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 8: he decided to come back to the grind that is coaching. 735 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 8: Even if it's in the NFL. You have more of 736 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 8: an offseason than you do as a college coach. 737 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: Bruce Feldman, football college football reporter for Fox Sports and 738 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 2: New York Times best selling author, Thank you so much 739 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 2: for the time on a big news day in college football. 740 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 3: Thank you, Bruce, Thank you Danny. 741 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 2: I love that theory from Colin. He's like, it's it's 742 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 2: not even a good well kept secret. Nick Saban in 743 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 2: the NFL, I'm like, I didn't know that secret. Someone 744 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 2: kept that secret for me. That would be a massive story. 745 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 2: How about him and Bill Belichick on the same staff 746 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 2: in the NFL. 747 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 3: Let's go just old. 748 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 2: Timers, bring it back together, recreate that documentary. 749 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 3: It'd be a good story. 750 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 2: I wouldn't hire him to coach my team, but i'd 751 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 2: want them to coach a team in the NFL. Thanks 752 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 2: to Bruce Feldman and again congrats to Dion Sanders on 753 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 2: a positive health update from a very very serious health situation. 754 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 2: But coming up, there's another Lebron story on the Internet, 755 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 2: but I don't think it's exactly how people are making 756 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 2: it out to be. 757 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 3: He's not trying to push his way to Denver. 758 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 2: And yes it is an inevitability for Micah Parsons to 759 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 2: get paid. I think I have tracked with Jerry Jones's code. 760 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 2: It's all coming up on The Herd