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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to this edition of Big Fish Small

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Speaker 1: Pod for Saturday, July first, twenty twenty three, and if

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Speaker 1: you're into the small park, he would like to give

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Speaker 1: you all the information about the Marlins for that particular day,

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Speaker 1: all season long and ten minutes or less. And for

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Speaker 1: you guys listening, we have a very special guest making

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Speaker 1: his first appearance on the Small Pod, the newest farm

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Speaker 1: director for fof mister Alex Carver Fish in the Farm.

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Speaker 2: Alex. It's great to have you on for today's podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: Excited to talk about at some prospects with you, as

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Speaker 4: I always, I am down to talk to you guys

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Speaker 4: about anything minor league baseball and anything Marlins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get it man, but we've got Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna start.

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Speaker 1: This particular episode is going to be about the Features Game,

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Speaker 1: the Future Stars, and this case the Marrilmons having two

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Speaker 1: Feature Stars players selected for the game. Last year was

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Speaker 1: only one with Eerie Perez, year before that with Jake

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Speaker 1: Eaeder and Max Meyer, and then for this year it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be Pat Monteverde and na Seem Nunez in part

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Speaker 1: with Nazi Unias.

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Speaker 2: He becomes the first Marlons.

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Speaker 1: Position player to be selected since twenty nineteen when the

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Speaker 1: Marlins had Isan Diez and Monte Harrison to go along

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Speaker 1: with Sixtel Sancho. So that was definitely a group there.

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Speaker 1: But Alex, talk to me first about naciing Yuniaz being

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Speaker 1: the first position player selected in a long time. What

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Speaker 1: maybe generated maybe the Marlins wanting him to be represented

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Speaker 1: in this Future Stars game, and how he separated himself

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Speaker 1: from other players in the organization.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just deserved exposure, Danny.

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Speaker 4: This guy's been really good in spring training, came up

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Speaker 4: in spring training, got a bunch of time with the

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Speaker 4: Marlin stuck around in spring training for pretty much the

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Speaker 3: Showed really well.

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Speaker 4: Skip Schumacher was personally really impressed with him, just in

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Speaker 4: his ability to kind of be.

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Speaker 3: A smaller framed guy, but also to start to hit

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Speaker 4: We've seen it this year where he's at four home runs,

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Speaker 4: that's twice as many as.

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Speaker 3: His career total coming into the season he only had two,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, to be able to at least show some power.

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Speaker 4: He's going on gaps a little bit more, ball's coming

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Speaker 5: Three two payoff to Nunyaz line drive, hit in the air,

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Speaker 5: high and deep to right more, it's back at the

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Speaker 5: wall and it lands on the warning track, takes a

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Speaker 4: I will say that this month in particular, in the

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Speaker 4: Really didn't do well in June, but his start of

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Speaker 4: a guy that I think has the potential for four

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just looking at any Hiss thirty three stolen

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Speaker 1: how important is maybe his skill set outside of the bat,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one important.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I one hundred percent think that this is

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Speaker 4: because of what he does with range, speed, defense, glove.

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Speaker 4: Everything on that side of the ball is major league

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Speaker 4: to see the consistency out of. So yeah, man, this

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Speaker 4: is deserved exposure for this guy. And like I said,

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Speaker 4: So hopefully in the month of July he turns it

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Speaker 4: They have a lot of guys who can play shortstop,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and with not seen why do you think maybe

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Speaker 1: Why do you think maybe he was selected compared to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent, just a good question.

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Speaker 4: What I will say is they normally select guys for

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Speaker 3: He had a lot of exposure.

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Speaker 4: He's fully he's a full goal you know, he didn't

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Speaker 3: He was in spring training the whole time. So obviously, yes, it's.

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Speaker 4: An event where you want guys to get exposure, but

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Speaker 4: So that's what I would say is the main reasons

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Speaker 4: is the level that he's playing at, how far stretched

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Speaker 4: out he is, and like I said, just this hot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and for not seeing just how do you think

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Speaker 1: he projects maybe towards the Marlin in the future and

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Speaker 1: maybe when we could be able to see him as

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Speaker 1: you mentioned long term? Is this someone that we could

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Speaker 1: you think he will be maybe projected to sen maintime

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so because of what he does on defense, which

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Speaker 3: I think we could see him.

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Speaker 4: As early as next season if the Marlins need a

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Speaker 3: That's definitely his floor.

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Speaker 4: He definitely has a major league floor, just as like

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Speaker 4: a defensive replacement or defensive villain if the bat doesn't

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Speaker 4: this guy could be a starter, maybe top of the

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Speaker 4: that would be his ceiling. But yes, in terms of

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Speaker 4: when we could see our team, I would say next

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Speaker 2: Oo. All right.

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Speaker 1: And then the other guy that the Marlins had, Patrick

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Speaker 1: double A season with Pensacola and in one one thirteen games,

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Speaker 1: You look at last season with Pensacola, where it was

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Speaker 1: and that in this season he's completely cut down in half,

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Speaker 1: a little bit about Patrick monty Verdez just ascension from

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, this guy has had a great season, like

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Speaker 4: he calls a slutter, a slider slash cutter.

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Speaker 3: It's the pitch that he really likes to go to.

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Speaker 3: That's a new pitch for him.

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Speaker 4: I think that pitch is at least like a fifty

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Speaker 4: how effective he uses it. That's definitely a great pitch

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Speaker 4: Question about about the tack ball and what's going to

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Speaker 4: to the regular baseball, But we'll see what happens. This

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Speaker 4: guy is not a hugely overpowering pitcher. He's not gonna

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Speaker 3: It's a good pitcher man. Not a huge, oversized guy.

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Speaker 4: Not a Yuri Praz not a guy like that, but

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Speaker 4: definitely a guy that could fill a spot mid to

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Speaker 3: Floor and twenty five years old. So this is a

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Speaker 2: Think we could see pretty soon with Patty.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned his age and everything there, and the marlinands

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Speaker 1: just needing just some more players offensively and whatnot in

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Speaker 1: just get more eyes on him. He is sporting an

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Speaker 1: some larger I don't want to see, maybe prospect from

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's not impossible.

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Speaker 4: I would say absolutely.

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Speaker 3: This is a guy that they.

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Speaker 4: Would be included in for exposure to potential shooters and

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Speaker 4: You know, I think this is a guy that they

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Speaker 3: So so yes, I think it's possible.

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Speaker 4: But I would like to see this arm stick around

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Speaker 4: with all that the Marlins have going on right now,

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Speaker 4: because I think he's ready.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I was just reading up monte Verni.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy who I believe a couple of years

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Speaker 1: that maybe affected him? I know it's were years down

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Speaker 1: affected maybe Monteverni in a positive because guys are coming

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Speaker 1: off Tommy's on now with the Marlins, Jack Eater, Max Myers,

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Speaker 1: Dax Fulton maybe around there, But just guys, how do

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Speaker 1: you think that has affected Patrick Monteverdi since that happened,

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Speaker 1: all those years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it happened to him.

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Speaker 4: like that he had Tommy John So so he's over it,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. How did it affect him? Basically,

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Speaker 4: he said the road back was was the hardest part.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, So I would say that this is our most

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Speaker 4: I really like that arm as well, So there's a

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Speaker 3: Right now Monte Verdy.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, with these two guys again and pipeline

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Speaker 3: So I would have definitely said, Victor Mesa Junior would be.

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Speaker 4: It's just a couple of other positional guys that they

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Speaker 3: But I think there's a fair selection.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, great selections there, but the again, congratulations to

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