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Speaker 1: Hello, I'm Scott and I'm Michael barn. This is the

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast, where two thirds of the

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Speaker 1: we explore the big money issues in the bloom Sports. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know where he's off to, by the way, Eben Off,

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Speaker 1: he's like somewhere in like Idaho treasure hunting. The Handsome

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Speaker 1: one is in Idaho. No, no, I'm here. Eban Is

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Speaker 1: Evan is in Idaho treasure hunting. He does this. Some

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Speaker 1: pals they do this. I don't know, do you take

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Speaker 1: the thing? Because my my stepson has the metal detector.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he travels with a metal detector,

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Speaker 1: but he's really into it. I laugh at him, but

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Speaker 1: he's really in Him and his buddies they go into this.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. Oh yeah, well miss him.

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Speaker 1: But today we begin with a big name in sports

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Speaker 1: doing something a bit unexpected. There was there was a

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Speaker 1: wet spot on the court for Big Three basketball. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but if you don't know the Big Three, that's like

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Speaker 1: like the retired NBA players that they play three on

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Speaker 1: three exactly as cubes league. In someone it wasn't a

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Speaker 1: melt at ice cube, but someone I'm sorry, but someone

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Speaker 1: had to mop it up. But the kid, like the

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Speaker 1: low level, the kid had gone out there and mopped

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Speaker 1: in whatever. But someone spotted a spot that was still wet,

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Speaker 1: which is of course dangerous to players. And why don't

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Speaker 1: you say, guess who the someone was that didn't tell

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Speaker 1: somebody else to do do it, didn't say, hey, where's

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Speaker 1: the person who's technically responsible for this? Who grabbed the mop,

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Speaker 1: went out there and did it. I'll give you a hint.

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Speaker 1: She used to be the CEO of the Oakman Raid,

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Speaker 1: the Princess of Darkness herself. Yes, she's the chairman of

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Speaker 1: the board of the league. Now I know this isn't

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Speaker 1: the NFL, but so what. She's the chairman of the

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Speaker 1: board of the league. And she saw something as menial

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Speaker 1: the mop, went on the floor herself and just did it.

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Speaker 1: There's a wonderful lesson in here for all sports executives

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Speaker 1: and for all sports teams, And yeah, do it be involved.

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Speaker 1: Even if you want to talk about establishing culture and

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Speaker 1: how to this is how you do it. See, it's

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Speaker 1: like if you see a piece of trash on the

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Speaker 1: think somebody else is going to get it, pick it

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Speaker 1: up and put it in the trash. Yes, Scott O'Neil,

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Speaker 1: CEO of the Sixers and the Devil's and the prew Center. Now,

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Speaker 1: he told me a story while back. He was like

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Speaker 1: there's an older woman who seems a little confused where

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Speaker 1: So he went up, excuse me, may I help you?

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm looking for my son. I had the

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Speaker 1: walked her to the seat, sat her down, Is everything okay?

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Speaker 1: Do you need anything? But funny story though on the

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Speaker 1: back end one of the teams, it would happened to

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Speaker 1: no idea, but the word got she said. I think

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Speaker 1: it said oh, you're welcome if you need anything here,

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Speaker 1: I am. And the business partner called him and said

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Speaker 1: that was my mom. Wow, so it's good business. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that guy wasn't so impressed? Like his mother

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Speaker 1: was happy and made to feel special and taken care of.

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Speaker 1: I didn't pawn off on somebody else didn't walk right

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Speaker 1: He saw somebody who needed assistance finding the seat, didn't

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Speaker 1: That that was That's really cool. I mean, and that's

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Speaker 1: and like you said, that's a good business lessons leadership. Anybody,

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Speaker 1: I think back. Amy doesn't think that. Oh, I salute you,

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Speaker 1: Amy Trask. We're gonna have her on the show. By

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Speaker 1: the way. We we were going to have her on

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Speaker 1: during football season. But she's very busy doing She's on CBS,

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Speaker 1: that book, How to Negotiate Like a Girl. I love

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Speaker 1: of her with the mop in her hand cleaning the court.

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Speaker 1: I had to reread that when I first saw it

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Speaker 1: talk about as a possibility the Tampa Bay Rays, because

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Speaker 1: they're thinking about maybe sharing their time in Montreal in Canada,

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Speaker 1: done before in the NBA in the seventies and you've

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Speaker 1: seen that dynamic. However, while Baseball has given them permission

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Speaker 1: to pursue this to see if it works, the fact remains,

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Speaker 1: you mean to tell me you're going to get a

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Speaker 1: to share the club, not to have it as its

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Speaker 1: I read about this that I didn't realize. There's already

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Speaker 1: a lot of business Montreal Tampa Bay connected. People in

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Speaker 1: back and forth. That's fine, but you're still talking about

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Speaker 1: the old Montreal Expose what was it exhibition Stadium. I

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Speaker 1: you need I don't I don't see that. But did

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Speaker 1: um and I had a nice retort to him, I said,

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Speaker 1: How much? How much wants us? Who do you called

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Speaker 1: football playing that's bringing in big dollars, right, I don't know. Well,

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