WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Negotiation Table

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>Ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Friday, August ninth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, episode

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<v Speaker 2>number fifteen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody doing this morning excellent?

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<v Speaker 2>It's nice and quiet piece.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing how quiet it is here right now. So

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<v Speaker 3>let's make some noise. Let's make some noise.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Let's talk a little bit of Cowboys football.

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<v Speaker 2>We we had a really fun I thought fun practice yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>You had the rams here with the Cowboys. So anytime

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<v Speaker 2>you get a chance to watch Cowboys players up against

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<v Speaker 2>other players, you kind of get a sense for how

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing. Even though you know, it may be very

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<v Speaker 2>different than what you see when they're just going against

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<v Speaker 2>each other every day. But after we finished practice, we're

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that, you know, we got all this stuff to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about, us football talk about, and then all hell

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<v Speaker 2>breaks looks in Cowboys Nation. Basically as a result of

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<v Speaker 2>an interview, Nah, as a result right that Jerry did

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<v Speaker 2>and Nick, you were standing there for the interview. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to make sure we're clear on what exactly

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<v Speaker 2>was saying and then we'll talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 2>what it all means, because a lot of ramifications happened

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<v Speaker 2>as a result of this interview. But tell us what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess in the interview what Jerry actually said regarding

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<v Speaker 2>Ceedee Lamb's contract.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a breakdown up on dallascowboys dot com if

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<v Speaker 5>you're more of the reading person than the visual person.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'll give you the exchange as it was given

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<v Speaker 5>yesterday to between Jerry Jones and a couple of reporters

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<v Speaker 5>as far as how he communicated his feelings on CD Lamb.

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<v Speaker 5>So question from reporter one week three of training camp

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<v Speaker 5>is winding down. Can you envision September eighth coming and

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<v Speaker 5>CD Lamb not being ready to go. Jerry says, well,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know about that, but I know that we're

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<v Speaker 5>getting great work done, making real progress, and I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think we're losing a step where we are now. Another

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<v Speaker 5>reporter comes in, is there a sense of urgency keyword

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<v Speaker 5>as you begin the preseason to get CD done? Jerry

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<v Speaker 5>says no. Same reporter asks why do you say that?

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<v Speaker 5>And Jerry says, just a long pause. I went to

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<v Speaker 5>high school, I went to college. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 5>I said it. I'm just saying I don't know, and

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<v Speaker 5>he starts laughing. I don't have a sense of urgency

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<v Speaker 5>about getting it done. Pick any reason you want. I

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<v Speaker 5>was at NOBU two days ago. Give that as a reason.

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<v Speaker 5>Whatever you want. Put it out there. And so just

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<v Speaker 5>the quote of I don't have any urgency to get

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<v Speaker 5>it done was posted to Twitter. Ceedee Lamb responds, for

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<v Speaker 5>the first time throughout this entire holdout, this is the

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<v Speaker 5>first words we've heard him utter. And oddly enough, it

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<v Speaker 5>was just three letters. It was just LOL with a period,

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<v Speaker 5>And I feel like the period is even more telling

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<v Speaker 5>than the LOL in some instances. But those four characters, man,

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<v Speaker 5>they shook up the entire NFL world. You had Chefter

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<v Speaker 5>retweeting it, you had Bleachree Report talking about it, you

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<v Speaker 5>had us talking about it.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>There was a lot going on here yesterday, so much

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<v Speaker 5>so that a couple of hours after this all went down,

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<v Speaker 5>like you said, like I forgot there was a joint

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<v Speaker 5>practice that we had yesterday. So it's an interesting situation

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<v Speaker 5>than Dak Prescott. He takes his weekly podium and as

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<v Speaker 5>he's getting off the stage, he says, I know y'all

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<v Speaker 5>want to ask I got urgency for it to happen,

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<v Speaker 5>And so we kind of dive into that a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit more, and he said that he needed to talk

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<v Speaker 5>to CD a little bit more about the entire quote

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<v Speaker 5>and how it was communicated from Jerry. But nevertheless, really

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<v Speaker 5>just strange day yesterday when it came to the CD

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<v Speaker 5>negotiations and how it all shook out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really interesting because as we all know, we've

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<v Speaker 2>worked in this business long enough, it doesn't take much.

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<v Speaker 2>And we also know this and this is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the great things for us. And I'm talking about media

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<v Speaker 2>covering the Cowboys. Jerry can stir it up with the

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<v Speaker 2>best of them, right, He could create some some headlines

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, and so sometimes you look at these kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of situations and you wonder like, is this Jerry kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stirring it up? Was he kind of joking around?

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<v Speaker 2>We remember when when he did the zach zeku before

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<v Speaker 2>Zeke got paid, and then Zeke you know, had the

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<v Speaker 2>T shirt at the press conference, and and so it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sometimes this kind of stuff can be taken

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more seriously than maybe even Jerry thinks about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But what were your thoughts as you guys kind of

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<v Speaker 2>read what happened and it all started kind of blowing up.

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<v Speaker 2>What were your thoughts and how concerned are you that

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<v Speaker 2>this could turn into a problem for the cowboys?

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<v Speaker 7>Sure, I'll start when as it was happening, and I

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<v Speaker 7>was like, what, you know, here comes the drama. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>we we love some drama around here. But we started

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<v Speaker 7>going to through a bunch of speculations and even Nick

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<v Speaker 7>came up with the theory, what if the contract is

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<v Speaker 7>actually done and they're just laughing at us. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>it's a joke. It's an inside joke right now. So

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<v Speaker 7>it's uh it can we talk about it? Was the

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<v Speaker 7>Twitter bio a thing or no?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the Twitter bio is the thing. We don't know

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<v Speaker 5>exactly when something changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know it happened obviously, but he took

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<v Speaker 2>America Team off his bio, which.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't know what happened, Okay, but it was again,

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<v Speaker 7>that was something that was brought up yesterday as well,

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<v Speaker 7>people saying, well, hold on, he took that off his

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<v Speaker 7>Twitter bio, and then you start creating all these stories

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<v Speaker 7>in your head. Another thing that we heard yesterday is

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<v Speaker 7>that his agent is in the Olympics right now in.

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<v Speaker 6>Paralympics handball guy.

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<v Speaker 7>But it just it just came about the whole thing

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<v Speaker 7>of like, okay, well he's on the outside right now,

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<v Speaker 7>CD's not here. And when you start seeing things on

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<v Speaker 7>social media start you start creating your own personal story

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<v Speaker 7>and you look at things differently. So I can imagine

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<v Speaker 7>everything happening and him not getting in touch with Jerry afterwards,

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<v Speaker 7>like on the phone or Jerry reaching out after this

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<v Speaker 7>whole thing started blowing up because we've seen it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>you're our boss. Of course, we're a lot closer than

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<v Speaker 7>they are. But it's the same thing of like if

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<v Speaker 7>something happens, you jump on the phone call and just

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<v Speaker 7>clear the air and make sure everything's clear it out.

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<v Speaker 7>We know that Jerry and the Cowboys they do want

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<v Speaker 7>CD Lamb. I can't imagine them going through a season

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<v Speaker 7>this season, specifically without a guy like CD. Yes, the

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<v Speaker 7>wide receivers have been looking really, really good, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>mean you don't need freaking City Lamb on the field. So,

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<v Speaker 7>especially after everything that happened during off season and what

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<v Speaker 7>you did not do as far as free agency signings

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<v Speaker 7>and all of that, I think this is a situation

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<v Speaker 7>that hopefully they cleared the air. But I'm here for

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<v Speaker 7>the drama, you know, goes. Let's keep it fun. No,

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<v Speaker 7>I hate it, but let's just get it done. Never

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<v Speaker 7>a dull day, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the great example of the Cowboys are going

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<v Speaker 3>to do things different than other NFL teams when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to front office moves and the way that they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to do their contracts. Yes, you know they they

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<v Speaker 3>operate in a way of the owner is the general manager,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's that's fine. You know, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>teams that have family members that run their teams. No

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<v Speaker 3>problem with that at all. Jerry's gonna hold the line

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<v Speaker 3>on this one. I believe this is I believe this

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<v Speaker 3>is true. Now they're they're looking at it probably in

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<v Speaker 3>a way of how much resolved does ceed Lamb have?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he willing to miss games? Is he willing to

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<v Speaker 3>give up a million dollars a week to miss games? Now?

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<v Speaker 3>The flip side of that is, okay, I'll report, but

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<v Speaker 3>got a little tight hamstring here, got some things going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Got you know, maybe there's some things that maybe you

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<v Speaker 3>can that you can worry about that way. But I

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<v Speaker 3>really do believe that the Cowboys have resolved in this thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're going to They're going to the way that

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<v Speaker 3>they operate is clearly different than anybody else in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're going to see how far they can carry C. D.

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<v Speaker 3>Lamb in the negotiations before. Maybe you know, and the

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys have had some some a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>history of giving in on some deals. We've seen it happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not making stuff up. We've seen it happen with

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<v Speaker 3>with Zeke out here. We've seen it happen with Zach

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<v Speaker 3>Martin out here. So they have a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a history of kind of saying, Okay, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>do this this way. But I think this is Jerry

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<v Speaker 3>really drawing the line? I think I agree with you, Amber.

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<v Speaker 3>I do believe they want they want CD here, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're they're gonna try and get this single on their terms,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're going to see how far he's willing to

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<v Speaker 3>take this. Can he take this to the point where

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<v Speaker 3>he's giving up a million dollars a week not to

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<v Speaker 3>play football. That's pretty strong resolved right there.

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<v Speaker 2>If I if my memory's right, and I'm over fifty now,

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<v Speaker 2>so sometimes memory is not right.

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<v Speaker 6>Fish oil, fish oil.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, works, there's not enough of it in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I recall that when this situation was going

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<v Speaker 2>on with with with Zach Martin. Jerry also says something

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<v Speaker 2>in the media is some similar to the thing of

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<v Speaker 2>when he shows up, he shows up right, almost like

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing, like we're holding the line. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>worried about this. When he wants to show up, he'll

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<v Speaker 2>show up. They end up paying him, right then zeke

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<v Speaker 2>zek Ou like yeah, and then they paid him. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think part of this too.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jerry's holding the line, but also think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>part of this is gamesmanship, and I think that when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes down to negotiating deals. I think the cowboys

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<v Speaker 2>negotiate the deal, and they negotiate hard, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>players also ggoti the agent's also negotiate hard, and that

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<v Speaker 2>becomes That's why it ends up being this tension that

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<v Speaker 2>quite frankly, I think all of us media fans feel

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<v Speaker 2>the tension for more than they do. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>understand this is the business. We're doing the business. We're

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<v Speaker 2>doing the dance of the business to figure out how

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<v Speaker 2>do we get positioned ourselves to get the best deal possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think both sides are doing it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I personally, I don't think and I haven't talked

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<v Speaker 2>to CD, but I don't think CD is sitting at

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<v Speaker 2>home stewing over this. I think it's a gamesmanship from

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<v Speaker 2>him as well. I think he sees that and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, l O L all right, if I'm gonna I.

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<v Speaker 7>Took off period the period.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's that's that's the thing. If he if he's

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<v Speaker 2>sitting at home, it's like, Okay, if you're gonna play

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<v Speaker 2>that game, I can't play that game too. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's personal. I think it's just the business. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the it's the negotiation. This is how it goes when

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<v Speaker 2>you're when you're negotiating a deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you bring up some excellent points about how

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<v Speaker 3>some comments have been made before and then deals have

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<v Speaker 3>gotten done and so but that's you know, like I say,

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry is the general manager, and you know if he

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<v Speaker 3>believes that the Jones does negotiate tough. They not just

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<v Speaker 3>in football and business, they negotiate tough and and so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they have a way of doing things. It

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<v Speaker 3>might not be on everybody else's plans. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but the thing that kind of makes you feel about

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<v Speaker 3>it is Jerry talked about the leaves needs to seem

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<v Speaker 3>more leave's fault. Well, you do have that. You do

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<v Speaker 3>have an idea of where some of these contracts are at.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're thinking, like, okay, well he has the information

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<v Speaker 3>that he needs where he sees his guy. Does he

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<v Speaker 3>see his guy in with the others? Does he see

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<v Speaker 3>him with the Jeffersons and the Hills and the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Hills was not anymore. It was just more money, more

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<v Speaker 3>guarant But there's some creative ways that they can do this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they're thinking about that, but I think this

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<v Speaker 3>is about I really do think it's about you know,

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<v Speaker 3>how far are you willing to carry this, because we'll

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<v Speaker 3>carry it. You know. With there there's there is and

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to say this though, is that there's there's

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<v Speaker 3>job security there. And I mean that in a nice way.

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<v Speaker 3>There's if you're a general manager and you're fighting it

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<v Speaker 3>every day, that like this could be my last year.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you're going to do everything you can to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that you signed the guys and and give

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<v Speaker 3>yourself the best chance. Here, they could like, okay, you

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<v Speaker 3>know we this is how our setup is. And a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of teams have this setup in that way, and

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<v Speaker 3>so to me, I just see them kind of saying, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I see where you're at here, and maybe they're

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they're not willing to to to give in like

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<v Speaker 3>they did on some of these other deals before. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, okay, we have to draw the line here. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we've we've kind of we've kind of allowed

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<v Speaker 3>some deals, the deals we were just talking about to happen,

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<v Speaker 3>and so now it's like, okay, let's see where we're

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<v Speaker 3>at here. Uh, with this particular deal, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Would still be surprised if we get to week one

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<v Speaker 5>and see Lambs not on the field.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I would too, I would too, but I thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was going to be ten days in.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you when you say that, When you

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<v Speaker 2>say that, are you saying you'd be surprised if you

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<v Speaker 2>get there and he's not there, or you'd be surprised

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<v Speaker 2>if you get there and he doesn't have a deal,

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<v Speaker 2>Because those are two different things. Like, as Brian said,

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<v Speaker 2>is he willing to go million dollars a week? That's

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<v Speaker 2>the whole different thing. Man, he has a deal.

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<v Speaker 3>His his fifth year option pays him about seventeen and

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<v Speaker 3>a half million. And you think about that, Is he

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<v Speaker 3>willing to give up a million dollars a week not

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<v Speaker 3>to play football? Right? You know? And that that's a

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<v Speaker 3>strong that you have to have some serious resolve to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to you know, to be able to walk

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<v Speaker 3>away from that. And I, I this is just my thought.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Cowboys are betting that he doesn't. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that my opinion. I think the Cowboys are looking

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<v Speaker 3>at this saying he does not have he does not

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<v Speaker 3>have it in him to walk away from a million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars a week. I think that that's just how I

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<v Speaker 3>look at it. I think the record.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't either, But go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>I think he'll be there first week of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>But just with a new contract.

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<v Speaker 7>As he just asked, he'll be there in person. Let

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<v Speaker 7>me just ask you guys this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But see that's what I'm saying. That's the problem

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<v Speaker 3>now I have. I think the Cowboys are going to

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Cowboys are really going to play. They're

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<v Speaker 3>going to play this all the way out and see

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<v Speaker 3>if he's like, okay, I'll come in four. But say

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<v Speaker 3>he has a contract. It could be below really what

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<v Speaker 3>the top receivers. You know, it could be instead of

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<v Speaker 3>thirty five million dollars, it could be a thirty million

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<v Speaker 3>dollar contract.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I actually don't think the number is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the hold. I don't think that's what's

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<v Speaker 2>holding this thing up. I actually believe this is about

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<v Speaker 2>how you structure it because when you, oh, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>where the problems laughing this team. Think about where Cowboys

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<v Speaker 2>right now are having struggles. It's in the salary cap.

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<v Speaker 2>So they got to think about it's not the total number,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, how do we divvy this up so that

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<v Speaker 2>every year it's not going to put us over salary capital?

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<v Speaker 2>Also trying to negotiate maybe a sixty million dollar deal

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<v Speaker 2>with the quarterback. Maybe who knows how much you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to pay Mike, if you know when that time comes.

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<v Speaker 2>We started looking at that. The Cowboys really have to

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<v Speaker 2>think about, like how much is being is contracts exactly? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's more of the issue.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a big issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Than just the number. I think the number has been

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<v Speaker 2>laid out. You just look at all the other comps,

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<v Speaker 2>so you got the number to.

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<v Speaker 3>Them, You're absolutely right. Yeah, to the receiver, better than Jefferson,

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<v Speaker 3>better than Hill? You think, well, no, that's what.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I'm asking him. Do you think do you

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<v Speaker 2>think he is better than Jeffs?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no, I think I'm saying he as a player,

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<v Speaker 3>looks at he's the one guy that I would pay.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just me talking again, it's not Dallas guy. It's

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<v Speaker 3>me talking. Yah. Yeah, i'd pay him because I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna live up to his contract. Agree, I would

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<v Speaker 3>pay him. Yeah. Now, now he's probably looking at it

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<v Speaker 3>as wait a minute, Jefferson's good. My numbers to Jefferson,

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<v Speaker 3>my numbers to Hill, my numbers to Brown, my numbers

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<v Speaker 3>two he's looking at it that way, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You think he thinks in that way, he thinks I

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<v Speaker 2>should be the highest page.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the cowboys have to think about the balance sheet

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<v Speaker 3>he's thinking about. No, they call the role. I'm right

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<v Speaker 3>in the I'm I'm on the top three.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's where I think. I think you've got people

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<v Speaker 3>trying to look at how to stagger contracts, and rightfully so.

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<v Speaker 3>And you've got a player saying, hey, this is BS you.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to pay me more than that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to be My numbers you look at

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<v Speaker 3>over the years, my numbers are just as comparable or

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<v Speaker 3>better than a lot of these guys that are already

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<v Speaker 3>getting paid.

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<v Speaker 5>I still think he comes under Jefferson to that To

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<v Speaker 5>that note though, and I think I think the smart

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<v Speaker 5>annual value comes under Jefferson.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the.

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<v Speaker 3>Guaranteed money, that's where it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 5>Where guarantee Hill is getting, it'll push to where a J.

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<v Speaker 5>Brown is getting a monross Aint Brown. I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>probably where the semantics of this and the nuance of

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<v Speaker 5>this deal is probably being worked out. And also the length,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're looking at it from cde Lamb's perspective, you

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<v Speaker 5>have a quarterback who's going into the final year of

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<v Speaker 5>his deal, you have a lot of uncertainty around your

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<v Speaker 5>coaching staff, around certain players. On the defensive side, you

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<v Speaker 5>have Zach Martin who's going to the final year of

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<v Speaker 5>his deal. So if you want to create a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit more certainty for yourself, get a shorter term deal,

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<v Speaker 5>get that three year deal.

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<v Speaker 6>So that cowboy doesn't help the Cowboys at all.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's exactly and so from a CD perspective, that

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<v Speaker 5>allows him to have some freedom down the line. Whereas

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<v Speaker 5>if the Cowboys get him to sign a five year deal,

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<v Speaker 5>which is probably what the team would want, then that

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<v Speaker 5>pushes him ount even further. Let's say three years from now,

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<v Speaker 5>he doesn't have that quarterback, he doesn't have that coaching staff,

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<v Speaker 5>he doesn't have that offensive line in front of him.

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<v Speaker 6>He's gonna want out, and.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that would create a more toxic situation than

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<v Speaker 5>what happened yesterday. So I think the dynamics of everything,

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<v Speaker 5>it's everybody trying to predict the future, and nobody can

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<v Speaker 5>really predict the future. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 5>I think Dax deal is going to be a very

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<v Speaker 5>big determining factor in all this. I think Dak's deal

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<v Speaker 5>and those negotiations have to reach a certain threshold for

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<v Speaker 5>this team to feel comfortable signing a CD LAMB to ideal,

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<v Speaker 5>just because they need to understand the number that DAK

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<v Speaker 5>is going to have at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 5>and they need to have an expectation of what MICA's

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<v Speaker 5>number will look like next year. I think once they

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<v Speaker 5>have a good good feel about those two numbers, CD

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<v Speaker 5>can get done. But I really do believe that this

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<v Speaker 5>CD and DAK negotiation, that's not a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 7>I have heard update on the dark contract.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there was no update yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so that's another thing that's lingering on there as well.

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<v Speaker 2>want to do this. Let's take our break and we

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<v Speaker 2>All right, here we go Amber. Before the break, you

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<v Speaker 2>had a question.

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<v Speaker 3>What was the question?

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<v Speaker 7>I've been getting this question a lot on social media.

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<v Speaker 7>Can the Cowboys play a game without CD?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 7>Obviously the answer is yes, yeah, But how well can

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<v Speaker 7>they play given the fact that we keep talking about

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<v Speaker 7>how well the receivers have been doing a training can

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<v Speaker 7>everybody and you know it'll be tough to make some

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<v Speaker 7>cuts down the road here soon. But how confident or

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<v Speaker 7>how comfortable would you guys feel with the Cowboys playing

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<v Speaker 7>a game if that was to be the scenario for

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<v Speaker 7>whatever the reason? Can they play week one? How well

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<v Speaker 7>can they play without a CD?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>It depends on the game, right and we're looking at

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<v Speaker 5>the game being the Cleveland Browns and the defense that

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<v Speaker 5>they had last year in Cleveland. You need a playmaker

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<v Speaker 5>like CD Lamb on the field. I think if it

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<v Speaker 5>was a situation where you know, you're playing the Commander's

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<v Speaker 5>Week one and they're trying to figure out their new

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<v Speaker 5>identity under Dan Quinn and things of that nature, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>have a little bit more freedom there. But I think

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<v Speaker 5>with the instance of going to Cleveland, it being that

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<v Speaker 5>afternoon game, that first Fox game of the season, and

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<v Speaker 5>you're going into the Dog Pound, you need CD Lamb

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<v Speaker 5>in that building.

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<v Speaker 3>Quarterbacks outstanding. You know, he's playing practicing really well out here.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he's gonna have to carry you. There was

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<v Speaker 3>a similance of a running game yesterday. You know there

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<v Speaker 3>were some holes. I haven't seen a lot of holes

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<v Speaker 3>when it's been Cowboys versus Cowboys. There were holes when

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<v Speaker 3>it was Cowboys vers Rams. How well can you run

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<v Speaker 3>the football? Will you allow teams to completely take away?

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<v Speaker 3>Ferguson Cooks had a good day yesterday. I would mention

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<v Speaker 3>him as one of my top guys. Tolbert showing a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit something more than what we kind of thought,

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<v Speaker 3>or at least what I thought he was gonna be.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to play a game without Lamb. But

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<v Speaker 3>to me, it's not as dire as I once thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was coming in here because I've seen I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of emergence of Tolbert and the quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>looks like he's picked up where he left off last

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<v Speaker 3>year with some of his throws. So that would be, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna put it all on him, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>he's he'll he'll, he'll go as best as he can

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<v Speaker 3>with it. But it would be a it'd be difficult,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's it's and I'm not even gonna say manageable.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say it probably won't look pretty, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to find a way to get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>If that was the case, Yeah, I'll tell you this.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually was having this conversation with a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>media guys as we were standing watching practice a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days ago, and I asked the question, do you

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<v Speaker 2>think Dak looking at him out here on the field

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<v Speaker 2>this year, looking at the fact that last year he

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<v Speaker 2>was second in voting, second in voting in the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>as far as far as league MVP, do you think

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<v Speaker 2>he's at the point in his career where he could

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<v Speaker 2>feasibly carry this offense with without the talent around him,

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<v Speaker 2>like with just good talent around him and everybody everybody

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<v Speaker 2>to a man that was in that conversation said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he might be able to do it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think maybe he's at that point where he could do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so to your question, Amber, that's always been a question,

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<v Speaker 2>and quite frankly, he's never really been put in that

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<v Speaker 2>position other than one time, and he wasn't ready at

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<v Speaker 2>that point. But but I think now, I think you

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<v Speaker 2>look at how he's developed, you look at what he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing out here just training camp, and obviously that's not

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<v Speaker 2>the game, so let's not equate it in the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does give me reason to believe that if

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<v Speaker 2>ever there was a chance for him to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to take that next step as a quarterback. Where again,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're gonna make sixty million, you're not gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>all the talent around you. Can you be the person

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<v Speaker 2>that really makes it go. I actually want to see

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<v Speaker 2>if he's ready, if he's ready to take that next sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you this, that's a dangerous thing for

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<v Speaker 2>CD because if CD doesn't have a contract at that

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<v Speaker 2>point and the Cowboys start watching, and let's say you

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<v Speaker 2>get two or three games into the season and this

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<v Speaker 2>offense is moving without CD Lamb, now it begs the

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<v Speaker 2>question do the Cowboys need to pay? Do they need

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<v Speaker 2>to really then be focused on paying Dak Prescott more

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<v Speaker 2>so than they are focused on paying CD Lamb. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying any of this will happen. All I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying is those are the things that you'll be watching,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure CDs camp will be watching as well.

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<v Speaker 2>If he decides to continue his holdout like that can

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<v Speaker 2>get really really interesting for everybody.

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<v Speaker 6>You need Cede Lamb in January.

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<v Speaker 5>That's where I think they can hold that leverage there,

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<v Speaker 5>just because they Dad could go out and have four

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and fifty yards passing in the first three weeks

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<v Speaker 5>in each game, They're still going to need CD Lamb

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<v Speaker 5>whenever playoff time comes around.

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<v Speaker 6>So I still feel like that leverage is on the table.

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<v Speaker 5>He's still at the end of the day that he

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<v Speaker 5>is their best offensive playmaker and whenever they do go

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<v Speaker 5>to San Francisco they need him. Whenever they do play

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<v Speaker 5>against Detroit in the season or whether that's in the

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<v Speaker 5>playoffs too, they need him.

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<v Speaker 6>And he was very crucial in that Detroit game last year.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think they could still hold that leverage at

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<v Speaker 5>the end of the day, regardless of how Dak.

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<v Speaker 6>Performs stood to open the Season's that's how.

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<v Speaker 3>I still want That was it. That was the whole question.

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<v Speaker 2>That the whole question is actually a really great question.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, all right, let's get some practicing.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hear what happened on the field yesterday. It was

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<v Speaker 2>actually a really good I thought a lot of good competition.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a lot of interesting things from the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go down the line. Let's start first on the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive side of the ball. I want each you guys

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<v Speaker 2>to give me an observation that you saw from the

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys offense going up against the Rams defense.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's start first with you, Brian, no start with me,

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<v Speaker 7>because I think he's gonna say the same because we

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<v Speaker 7>were standing around the same spot or we were watching

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<v Speaker 7>the same stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna talk about the old life.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's just hope and pray that everybody, all the starters

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<v Speaker 7>stay healthy, they all stay healthy this season because the

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<v Speaker 7>backups did not look good. They were on the ground

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<v Speaker 7>quite a bit, and it's just it's very different than Brian.

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<v Speaker 7>We were talking about the difference it makes when you

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<v Speaker 7>go up, when you start practicing or playing against other

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<v Speaker 7>people that is not the people that you've been practicing

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<v Speaker 7>against this whole time, and we saw that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't realize how bad they actually were until until yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>As far as these backup.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys one on ones.

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<v Speaker 7>Was like I was just like, oh my god, uh

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<v Speaker 7>uh oh my god, oh oh that hurt me. So

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<v Speaker 7>that was just an a completely eye opening for me

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<v Speaker 7>to see that because I have I hadn't realized the

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<v Speaker 7>lack of ability that was there up until they had

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<v Speaker 7>to go against the Rams yesterday. In that point, But

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<v Speaker 7>another thing that I was gonna say that that's on

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<v Speaker 7>the positive, and we already kind of mentioned it was

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<v Speaker 7>the running game Sekiel, Elliott, Rinco Doll. I mean they're

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<v Speaker 7>starting to show up and that's very, very exciting. And

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<v Speaker 7>when you see the started o line, the holes and

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<v Speaker 7>the gaps that they're creating for them, and then their

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<v Speaker 7>ability to break and run free has been really really impressive.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I can I follow up the question there.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you feel whenever you say the backup offensive line

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<v Speaker 5>had a weekday, are you looking more so at the

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<v Speaker 5>tackles or are you looking at the offensive line as

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<v Speaker 5>a whole, Because I feel like TJ.

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<v Speaker 6>Bass and Cooper Bebe they still had some good moments yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>Good moment, but in the sense that it's similar to

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<v Speaker 7>what we've been watching already. That's where the other players

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<v Speaker 7>stood out most that you think they're they're okay, and

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<v Speaker 7>then they were absolutely terrible. BB. I think there's still

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<v Speaker 7>room to grow there.

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<v Speaker 6>For sure.

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<v Speaker 7>A lot he looked okay. It wasn't impressive, it wasn't like,

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<v Speaker 7>oh my god, let's cry about this draft pick. But TJ. Bass,

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<v Speaker 7>on the other hand, he's a guy that even since

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<v Speaker 7>last year, a lot of people have always talked very

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<v Speaker 7>highly about him, and he's a guy that I think

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<v Speaker 7>I still like And what he's done. He's had his

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<v Speaker 7>good moments, but again not to the point where I'm

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<v Speaker 7>like extremely impressed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there was. There was a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of both in which because I was when I was

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<v Speaker 3>watching BB, I was like, okay, that's a good rip

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<v Speaker 3>because uh and thank you guys for letting me be

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<v Speaker 3>a part of training camp live again. And and I

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<v Speaker 3>was down with the with the offensive line in the

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<v Speaker 3>backups and stuff, and I thought there was sometimes the tackles.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Matt will Let's go had a rough day yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that Steele at times had a rough day yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome Richards. I know the one video of him, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with first going over the top of him was played

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<v Speaker 3>and that was a bad rep. What bothered me about

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<v Speaker 3>the backups yesterday and but the ones, like you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a good reps with BB. I thought Ball

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<v Speaker 3>held his own yesterday at guard which you know what

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<v Speaker 3>bothered me yesterday about the group is I've seen him

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<v Speaker 3>block against the Cowboys front in the one on once

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<v Speaker 3>and played with really good technique, you know, hands inside,

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<v Speaker 3>sit down, you know, kick side punch. Yesterday it was

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<v Speaker 3>like going back to survival, Like, Okay, I got you

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<v Speaker 3>get beat badly on the first rep, and now you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to try and short set of guy and then

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<v Speaker 3>you lunch and then he swims around you and now

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<v Speaker 3>you're off bouts and it's snowballs on it. There was

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<v Speaker 3>times where you're like, man, they don't even look like

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<v Speaker 3>they've practiced, you know, work because but that's the thing

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<v Speaker 3>that bothers you the most is when you've seen him

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<v Speaker 3>have some success. It's the same thing like we was

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<v Speaker 3>talking about with Mazzie Smith. And I don't mean to

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<v Speaker 3>bring him into this, but I do. When you see

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<v Speaker 3>positivity and then you're like, what just happened? What And

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 3>it's like all these players and I think this is

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<v Speaker 3>what that practice did yesterday. It was in a way

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<v Speaker 3>eye opening that how could they how could they look

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<v Speaker 3>so good going against guys and then they get in

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<v Speaker 3>this and then it turns into like chaos, you know

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<v Speaker 3>with it. But I uh, that was something that was

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<v Speaker 3>again eye opening to me.

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<v Speaker 5>I will say for me, whenever the team drills were

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<v Speaker 5>going on early in practice, the Cowboys, they were relying

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<v Speaker 5>a lot on their run game, Like they.

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<v Speaker 6>Came out with a lot they throw.

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<v Speaker 3>That left side was good. Yeah, the number one watching.

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<v Speaker 5>It was super awesome and that left side was awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>Richards and Tyler Smith and so Rico Dowdell Ezekiel Elliott.

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<v Speaker 5>They both had big runs on the left side of

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<v Speaker 5>that offensive line. It gotta give credits. Yeah, huge holes.

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<v Speaker 5>And I have to give credit to bro Kauffman as well.

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<v Speaker 5>He was going back and forth with Kobe Turner.

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<v Speaker 6>Looks so good.

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<v Speaker 5>Kobe Turner's awesome. I mean, he's a great defensive tackle

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<v Speaker 5>for them. I think they got to steal there. I

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<v Speaker 5>think they ended up with him in the second or

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<v Speaker 5>third round a year a year ago, and he's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be their guy that kind of not Aaron Donald replacement.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't replace that guy, but he's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 5>guy that's in the interior that they're going to rely

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<v Speaker 5>upon a little bit more. But him, Brandon Fisk they

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<v Speaker 5>were rotating in and brock Kaufman was still able to

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<v Speaker 5>have his battles with them. He took a punch and

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<v Speaker 5>he'd punch right back, you know, and almost figured almost

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<v Speaker 5>literally too, because they were getting into it a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit with some words. But I really loved what I

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<v Speaker 5>saw in the running game because that's the biggest question

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<v Speaker 5>on this offense. Arguably you could say it's the only

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<v Speaker 5>question on this offense, depending on how you feel it

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<v Speaker 5>left tackle and center. But they answered a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>questions yesterday as far as Okay, Rico daubt o make

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<v Speaker 5>a big play, Okay Ezekiel Elliott can make a cut.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think both of those things were really big

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<v Speaker 5>to come away with. As far as the offensive side

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<v Speaker 5>of the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>You know when you when you mentioned the running game,

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<v Speaker 3>dude and a dooga was in there until he had

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<v Speaker 3>the until he had the spasms in his back, and

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<v Speaker 3>then he was out of the line up there. But

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<v Speaker 3>that listen, there were a couple of times there where

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<v Speaker 3>Hoffman and even Bebe playing center. They were so quick

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<v Speaker 3>to get out. You know, they were second level block

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 3>and there was that they had that ability to get

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<v Speaker 3>up in the second level and they they were so

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 3>quick that they overshot, able to kind of adjust back

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 3>and then kind of get there get their guys squared up.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, the running game aspect I thought was pretty

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<v Speaker 3>pretty solid.

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<v Speaker 6>Yesterdar and if I could defensively, man Eric Hendricks had

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<v Speaker 6>an awesome day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, real quick, we're going to take our break when

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<v Speaker 2>we come back, We'll get to the defensive side of

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the final segment of the Break. Here

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<v Speaker 2>from Oxnard, California, we have one, two, three more episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Your camp. So this thing is round and out. It's

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<v Speaker 2>only three more because we get we're next twoes Day

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<v Speaker 2>and Thursday and then with a following Tuesday, and then

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<v Speaker 3>So uh it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's moving along here. We're actually past the halfway point

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<v Speaker 2>of our time here in Oxtar.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody is so happy than you. It seems like, say again,

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<v Speaker 3>nobody's more happier than you about this, are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I want my life back.

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<v Speaker 6>Feels like college's that's that's what I tell people. And

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<v Speaker 6>it's back home.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, yeah, we all eat together, we sleep in dorms,

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 5>we we hang out and do work until like eleven

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.320
<v Speaker 5>eleven thirty. Yes, almost at schoolwork, but I was like

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 5>studying that doesn't sound right. But yeah, it feels like

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:34.399
<v Speaker 5>college in a sense.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's I love this. Yeah that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, don't love me wrong. The weather's awesome. We

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:43.319
<v Speaker 2>get a lot done. But like I enjoy going home

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.479
<v Speaker 2>at nineteen, my family and you know, all the things

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 2>that comes to being at home. I just I'm ready

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 2>to go.

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 6>I missed my pup, miss my pup.

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 2>But that's okay. We're working through this thing. Got about

0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 2>a weekend. So let's get some defense observations. What'd you

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 2>guys see from the Cowboys defense against the Rams office yesterday?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I jumped the gun, but here we go. Eric

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 5>Kendricks Man, he looked fantastic yesterday. And if you're looking for,

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 5>you know that on field presence, that on field leadership presence.

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 5>He not only brought it from a schematic and knowledge standpoint,

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 5>but from a play standpoint yesterday too.

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 6>And he was everywhere the ball was.

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 5>And that's exactly what you want from from from your

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.880
<v Speaker 5>main linebacker going into the season. I think whenever you

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:27.399
<v Speaker 5>look at Kendricks, he needs to have that role where

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 5>he is on top of the ball on any given play,

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 5>especially in the run game. And that's where we saw him.

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 5>Whether it was Cadron Williams or Blake Korham getting handoffs

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 5>from Matthew Stafford or Stetson benn In or Jimmy Garoppolo,

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.919
<v Speaker 5>it was Eric Kendricks that was right there to be ready.

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 6>And he just understands it.

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 5>And that's the knowledge, that's the experience that he has

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 5>in this league and the acknowledge and experience that he

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:49.399
<v Speaker 5>has has in this defensive system and I think that's

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:51.919
<v Speaker 5>going to radiate not only throughout the linebacking chorus time

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:54.280
<v Speaker 5>goes on, but the entire team. You have a safety

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 5>group that is really good at playing the run and

0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 5>guys like Donovan Wilson and Milie Cooker in my eyes

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 5>one day, Thomas as well, and so if you have

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 5>a guy in front of them like Eric Kendricks that

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 5>can play the run to his knowledge, to his experience,

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.359
<v Speaker 5>that makes their job so much easier on the back end.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's gonna be We're gonna look up at

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 5>week eleven, Week twelve, We're gonna be like, man, we

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 5>really underestimated that Eric Kendricks pickup back when it happened,

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 5>just because no one cared at that point. But I

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 5>think that's probably been one of the better pickups that

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:23.839
<v Speaker 5>the Cowboys have made in free agency over the last

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 5>few years.

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 6>So I'll say it a whole lot, but it is

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 6>it's saying a lot this time.

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting about that is I think a lot of people,

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:31.879
<v Speaker 2>the fans will get to see this once they start

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 2>playing games. But you can now see, you can see

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:39.399
<v Speaker 2>the difference of how much a veteran, really good linebacker

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 2>makes in the middle of your defense, just being able

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 2>to diagnose things, being able to get into the right spot,

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 2>like all the things that you saw last year in

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 2>the run game that just kind of like how is that?

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Like how did that guy have that much room to

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 2>be able to run? It matters when you have that

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 2>linebacker there. And I was talking to Patrick Walker yesterday

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 2>we were off air and and we were talking about

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:02.879
<v Speaker 2>He was like, you know, we haven't seen this since

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Sean Lee. We haven't seen that kind of linebacker play.

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 2>And so I really I'm excited about what Eric Kendrick's

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna bring in this defense.

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:13.359
<v Speaker 7>I'm excited too. He's looking so good. And another guy

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 7>that's looking really, really good, and I mentioned him last show.

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 7>I don't want to mention him again, but hey, his

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 7>kid keeps putting in the lark and showing up is

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 7>rookie Kaylyn Kaylen Killing Kaylyn Kayling Kaylen Carson. He's so

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 7>freaking good. And it's impressive because when you see a

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.879
<v Speaker 7>rookie doing the things that he's doing, you can only

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 7>imagine what the future holds for him and how quick

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 7>he is. How what's more impressive to me is his

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 7>awareness of everything where the ball is and where everything

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 7>that he's doing on the field has been extremely impressive.

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 7>I'm super excited. And he's a guy that just I

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 7>knew nothing about and then all of a sudden, now

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.399
<v Speaker 7>I want to keep knowing more because he's that good.

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 7>So he's been very, very solid.

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that it's a really good observation for him.

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 3>And with Nasehon Wright had a little trouble yesterday the

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 3>ball went to the corner on a fade and you're

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.399
<v Speaker 3>like going, ah, got to make that play. I think

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 3>with Carson there's a side of me that's kind of

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 3>in that mode of just put him out there, you know,

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 3>just put him out there. And you know, if you know,

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 3>I understand what Naseean Wright is, just let me see

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 3>what Carson is taking every rep opposite Bland and playing

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 3>in the nickel with Jordan Lewis, So let me let

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.359
<v Speaker 3>me see that. Let me if he you know, he's

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 3>going to get the opportunity to cover a lot of

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 3>guys out here, and he has and he showed up

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 3>yesterday in a way too, as you mentioned, like you know,

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:47.800
<v Speaker 3>they try and swing the ball to him on the

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 3>outside or towards him, steps up makes the tackle. You know,

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 3>next thing, you know, he gets the interception. You know

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:57.800
<v Speaker 3>those interceptions, Yeah, and those he just needs to keep playing.

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 3>Just keep playing him and then when they get guiding back,

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 3>just keep playing him and see what you have there.

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 3>I I will say this though, I really like what

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 3>I saw again from Jordan Lewis, and and I covering

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 3>Cooper Cup is no fun. Yeah, hey, you want to

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 3>you want to deal with one of the best wide

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 3>one of the best wide receivers in the game, and

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 3>it comes to playing multiple spots and having to deal

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 3>with all that. Jordan Lewis did a nice job of

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 3>chasing yesterday and and and being in position, uh to

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 3>make some plays there. A couple of times Cup caught

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 3>the ball. He's going to do that to a lot

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 3>of people. But you didn't see Jordan Lewis completely out

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:38.680
<v Speaker 3>of position dealing with that. And that's a that's a

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 3>real positive. He's he's had some really good practices out

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 3>here and so I and I think you also have

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 3>to give And people will say this too. I mentioned

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Mazzie Smith. The one on one stuff with Mazzie Smith

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:52.719
<v Speaker 3>was good yesterday, Yes, it was, you know, he and

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 3>that's the thing that I think is the most frustrating

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:59.239
<v Speaker 3>to me is you see stuff like that and you're like,

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 3>come on, you could do this, you could do this,

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 3>you could do this, and and so hopefully they will

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 3>show him the film from last night. He can build

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 3>on that a little bit and we see a little

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 3>bit more quickness and stuff off the ball. I think

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.919
<v Speaker 3>like there's times where he kind of just he gets

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 3>he maybe gets a little tired, he gets a little

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<v Speaker 3>war down, doesn't play with the same stance, doesn't look good,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't play as quick as he needs to be. Rogers

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of like the other He's doing a good

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<v Speaker 3>job of playing fast and trying to get up the field.

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<v Speaker 3>But with Mazie, like I say, you see it, you

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<v Speaker 3>see it out there, and that's what kind of can

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<v Speaker 3>be a little frustrating at times that you know he

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<v Speaker 3>could play like that, just needs to be more consistent

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<v Speaker 3>doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>To both of your points on Kayln Carson, you mentioned

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<v Speaker 5>you want to see him if somebody goes down, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm right there with you, I think I want.

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<v Speaker 3>To see him with the ones. Yeah, yeah, if they're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to practice digs, but they're just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>every I would flip the reps, I would say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Nashon Wright, you're taking Carson's reps, and Carson you're now

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<v Speaker 3>taking Nasehon Wright's reps.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'll take it a stuff further into the season.

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<v Speaker 5>If there's an opportunity for a different corner to come

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<v Speaker 5>onto the field, whether that's Digg's Bland or Jordan Lewis

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<v Speaker 5>needing to come out, whether it be for injury or

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<v Speaker 5>just rotational work. If Caitlin Carson's not that first guy

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<v Speaker 5>on the field, whether it's inside or outside, I think

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<v Speaker 5>that's a mistake. He's see before on this roster, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think they will come to that conclusion because I

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<v Speaker 5>mean you call his name every single day and it's

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<v Speaker 5>you're right, Ambar.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean he does something every day that you look

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<v Speaker 6>at and you're.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, Okay, that's a guy, and he's see before on

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<v Speaker 5>this roster, and I think if he's the first guy

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<v Speaker 5>that rotates in, then that's that's gonna be an overwhelming

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<v Speaker 5>positive to keep that defense flowing in case they need

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<v Speaker 5>somebody to step up.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't throw it overshown too. They tried to throw, They

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<v Speaker 3>tried to run the wheel with Williams. The really talented

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 3>running back that they had with the Rams. They tried

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 3>to throw him on a wheel and Overshown from the

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<v Speaker 3>inside was able to carry into the point where Stafford

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<v Speaker 3>was going to throw it, and he pulled it back

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<v Speaker 3>because he saw thirteen in the picture and then had

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 3>to go to another spot. So there's some good plays

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<v Speaker 3>out here from Overshown. You always we talk about him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just such a he's such a complete player, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's just trying to kind of work his way back

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<v Speaker 3>in after this injury.

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<v Speaker 2>Positive sign for the Cowboys that young guys are showing up.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of young they are, and because that's what

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<v Speaker 2>they're really gonna they're gonna need the next couple of years.

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<v Speaker 7>They took a bed on relying on the younger talent,

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<v Speaker 7>and we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll shout out to Will McClay and his staff. They

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<v Speaker 2>know they do a good job of bringing in great

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<v Speaker 2>young talent. All right, Uh, real quick, before we get

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<v Speaker 2>in the show, I got to say hello to my wife.

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<v Speaker 2>She's listening, and she was like, does that mean does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean that you missed your wife?

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, absolutely, I miss my wife.

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<v Speaker 2>They nice to start back up, so I'll be home

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<v Speaker 2>soon so until then, until then, we'll keep holding it

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<v Speaker 2>down out here for Brian.

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<v Speaker 3>Brought to sambor Garcia and Nick Cares.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Derek Hilt and this has been the Break live

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<v Speaker 2>on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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