1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 4: Yes? 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Are you ready for a break? 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 3: Ready for a break? 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, And so much for that. 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton. 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: It's Friday, August ninth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, episode 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: number fifteen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: with lifem Oxnard, California and represented by LGLG is the 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: world's number one oh lad TV brand for eleven years 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: in counting. See why at LG dot com for slash 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: o leadevo. 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: Everybody doing this morning excellent? 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: It's nice and quiet piece. 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: It's amazing how quiet it is here right now. So 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: let's make some noise. Let's make some noise. 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: All right, Let's talk a little bit of Cowboys football. 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: We we had a really fun I thought fun practice yesterday. 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: You had the rams here with the Cowboys. So anytime 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: you get a chance to watch Cowboys players up against 26 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: other players, you kind of get a sense for how 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: they're doing. Even though you know, it may be very 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: different than what you see when they're just going against 29 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: each other every day. But after we finished practice, we're 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: thinking that, you know, we got all this stuff to 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: talk about, us football talk about, and then all hell 32 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: breaks looks in Cowboys Nation. Basically as a result of 33 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: an interview, Nah, as a result right that Jerry did 34 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: and Nick, you were standing there for the interview. I 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: just want to make sure we're clear on what exactly 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: was saying and then we'll talk a little bit about 37 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: what it all means, because a lot of ramifications happened 38 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: as a result of this interview. But tell us what happened. 39 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: I guess in the interview what Jerry actually said regarding 40 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb's contract. 41 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 5: I have a breakdown up on dallascowboys dot com if 42 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 5: you're more of the reading person than the visual person. 43 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 5: But I'll give you the exchange as it was given 44 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 5: yesterday to between Jerry Jones and a couple of reporters 45 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 5: as far as how he communicated his feelings on CD Lamb. 46 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 5: So question from reporter one week three of training camp 47 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 5: is winding down. Can you envision September eighth coming and 48 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 5: CD Lamb not being ready to go. Jerry says, well, 49 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 5: I don't know about that, but I know that we're 50 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 5: getting great work done, making real progress, and I don't 51 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 5: think we're losing a step where we are now. Another 52 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 5: reporter comes in, is there a sense of urgency keyword 53 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 5: as you begin the preseason to get CD done? Jerry 54 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 5: says no. Same reporter asks why do you say that? 55 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 5: And Jerry says, just a long pause. I went to 56 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 5: high school, I went to college. I don't know why 57 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 5: I said it. I'm just saying I don't know, and 58 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 5: he starts laughing. I don't have a sense of urgency 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 5: about getting it done. Pick any reason you want. I 60 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 5: was at NOBU two days ago. Give that as a reason. 61 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 5: Whatever you want. Put it out there. And so just 62 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 5: the quote of I don't have any urgency to get 63 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 5: it done was posted to Twitter. Ceedee Lamb responds, for 64 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 5: the first time throughout this entire holdout, this is the 65 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 5: first words we've heard him utter. And oddly enough, it 66 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 5: was just three letters. It was just LOL with a period, 67 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 5: And I feel like the period is even more telling 68 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 5: than the LOL in some instances. But those four characters, man, 69 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 5: they shook up the entire NFL world. You had Chefter 70 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 5: retweeting it, you had Bleachree Report talking about it, you 71 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 5: had us talking about it. 72 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 6: There's a lot. 73 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 5: There was a lot going on here yesterday, so much 74 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 5: so that a couple of hours after this all went down, 75 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 5: like you said, like I forgot there was a joint 76 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 5: practice that we had yesterday. So it's an interesting situation 77 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 5: than Dak Prescott. He takes his weekly podium and as 78 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 5: he's getting off the stage, he says, I know y'all 79 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 5: want to ask I got urgency for it to happen, 80 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 5: And so we kind of dive into that a little 81 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 5: bit more, and he said that he needed to talk 82 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 5: to CD a little bit more about the entire quote 83 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 5: and how it was communicated from Jerry. But nevertheless, really 84 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 5: just strange day yesterday when it came to the CD 85 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 5: negotiations and how it all shook out. 86 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really interesting because as we all know, we've 87 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: worked in this business long enough, it doesn't take much. 88 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: And we also know this and this is one of 89 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: the great things for us. And I'm talking about media 90 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: covering the Cowboys. Jerry can stir it up with the 91 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: best of them, right, He could create some some headlines 92 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: and uh, and so sometimes you look at these kinds 93 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: of situations and you wonder like, is this Jerry kind 94 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: of stirring it up? Was he kind of joking around? 95 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: We remember when when he did the zach zeku before 96 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: Zeke got paid, and then Zeke you know, had the 97 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: T shirt at the press conference, and and so it's 98 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes this kind of stuff can be taken 99 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: a lot more seriously than maybe even Jerry thinks about it. 100 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: But what were your thoughts as you guys kind of 101 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: read what happened and it all started kind of blowing up. 102 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 2: What were your thoughts and how concerned are you that 103 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: this could turn into a problem for the cowboys? 104 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 7: Sure, I'll start when as it was happening, and I 105 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 7: was like, what, you know, here comes the drama. You know, 106 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 7: we we love some drama around here. But we started 107 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 7: going to through a bunch of speculations and even Nick 108 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 7: came up with the theory, what if the contract is 109 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 7: actually done and they're just laughing at us. You know, 110 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 7: it's a joke. It's an inside joke right now. So 111 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 7: it's uh it can we talk about it? Was the 112 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 7: Twitter bio a thing or no? 113 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Twitter bio is the thing. We don't know 114 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 5: exactly when something changed. 115 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know it happened obviously, but he took 116 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 2: America Team off his bio, which. 117 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 7: We don't know what happened, Okay, but it was again, 118 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 7: that was something that was brought up yesterday as well, 119 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 7: people saying, well, hold on, he took that off his 120 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 7: Twitter bio, and then you start creating all these stories 121 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 7: in your head. Another thing that we heard yesterday is 122 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 7: that his agent is in the Olympics right now in. 123 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 6: Paralympics handball guy. 124 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 7: But it just it just came about the whole thing 125 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 7: of like, okay, well he's on the outside right now, 126 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 7: CD's not here. And when you start seeing things on 127 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 7: social media start you start creating your own personal story 128 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 7: and you look at things differently. So I can imagine 129 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 7: everything happening and him not getting in touch with Jerry afterwards, 130 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 7: like on the phone or Jerry reaching out after this 131 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 7: whole thing started blowing up because we've seen it. I mean, 132 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 7: you're our boss. Of course, we're a lot closer than 133 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 7: they are. But it's the same thing of like if 134 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 7: something happens, you jump on the phone call and just 135 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 7: clear the air and make sure everything's clear it out. 136 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 7: We know that Jerry and the Cowboys they do want 137 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 7: CD Lamb. I can't imagine them going through a season 138 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 7: this season, specifically without a guy like CD. Yes, the 139 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 7: wide receivers have been looking really, really good, that doesn't 140 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 7: mean you don't need freaking City Lamb on the field. So, 141 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 7: especially after everything that happened during off season and what 142 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 7: you did not do as far as free agency signings 143 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 7: and all of that, I think this is a situation 144 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 7: that hopefully they cleared the air. But I'm here for 145 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 7: the drama, you know, goes. Let's keep it fun. No, 146 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 7: I hate it, but let's just get it done. Never 147 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 7: a dull day, right, Yeah. 148 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: This is the great example of the Cowboys are going 149 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: to do things different than other NFL teams when it 150 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: comes to front office moves and the way that they're 151 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: going to do their contracts. Yes, you know they they 152 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 3: operate in a way of the owner is the general manager, 153 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: and that's that's fine. You know, there's a lot of 154 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: teams that have family members that run their teams. No 155 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: problem with that at all. Jerry's gonna hold the line 156 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: on this one. I believe this is I believe this 157 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: is true. Now they're they're looking at it probably in 158 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: a way of how much resolved does ceed Lamb have? 159 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: Is he willing to miss games? Is he willing to 160 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: give up a million dollars a week to miss games? Now? 161 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: The flip side of that is, okay, I'll report, but 162 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: got a little tight hamstring here, got some things going on. 163 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: Got you know, maybe there's some things that maybe you 164 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: can that you can worry about that way. But I 165 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: really do believe that the Cowboys have resolved in this thing, 166 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: and they're going to They're going to the way that 167 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 3: they operate is clearly different than anybody else in the NFL, 168 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: and they're going to see how far they can carry C. D. 169 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: Lamb in the negotiations before. Maybe you know, and the 170 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: Cowboys have had some some a little bit of a 171 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: history of giving in on some deals. We've seen it happen. 172 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: I'm not making stuff up. We've seen it happen with 173 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: with Zeke out here. We've seen it happen with Zach 174 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: Martin out here. So they have a little bit of 175 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: a history of kind of saying, Okay, we're going to 176 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: do this this way. But I think this is Jerry 177 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: really drawing the line? I think I agree with you, Amber. 178 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: I do believe they want they want CD here, but 179 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: they're they're gonna try and get this single on their terms, 180 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 3: and they're going to see how far he's willing to 181 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: take this. Can he take this to the point where 182 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: he's giving up a million dollars a week not to 183 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: play football. That's pretty strong resolved right there. 184 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: If I if my memory's right, and I'm over fifty now, 185 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 2: so sometimes memory is not right. 186 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 6: Fish oil, fish oil. 187 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 3: You're right, works, there's not enough of it in the world. 188 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: I think I recall that when this situation was going 189 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: on with with with Zach Martin. Jerry also says something 190 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: in the media is some similar to the thing of 191 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: when he shows up, he shows up right, almost like 192 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: the same thing, like we're holding the line. We're not 193 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: worried about this. When he wants to show up, he'll 194 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 2: show up. They end up paying him, right then zeke 195 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: zek Ou like yeah, and then they paid him. So 196 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: I think I think part of this too. 197 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 198 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: I think Jerry's holding the line, but also think, you know, 199 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: part of this is gamesmanship, and I think that when 200 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: it comes down to negotiating deals. I think the cowboys 201 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: negotiate the deal, and they negotiate hard, and by the way, 202 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: players also ggoti the agent's also negotiate hard, and that 203 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: becomes That's why it ends up being this tension that 204 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 2: quite frankly, I think all of us media fans feel 205 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 2: the tension for more than they do. I think they 206 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: understand this is the business. We're doing the business. We're 207 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: doing the dance of the business to figure out how 208 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: do we get positioned ourselves to get the best deal possible. 209 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: And I think both sides are doing it. I don't 210 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: think I personally, I don't think and I haven't talked 211 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: to CD, but I don't think CD is sitting at 212 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: home stewing over this. I think it's a gamesmanship from 213 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: him as well. I think he sees that and he's like, 214 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: all right, l O L all right, if I'm gonna I. 215 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 7: Took off period the period. 216 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: But that's that's that's the thing. If he if he's 217 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 2: sitting at home, it's like, Okay, if you're gonna play 218 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: that game, I can't play that game too. I don't 219 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: think it's personal. I think it's just the business. It's 220 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: the it's the negotiation. This is how it goes when 221 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: you're when you're negotiating a deal. 222 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you bring up some excellent points about how 223 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: some comments have been made before and then deals have 224 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: gotten done and so but that's you know, like I say, 225 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: Jerry is the general manager, and you know if he 226 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: believes that the Jones does negotiate tough. They not just 227 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 3: in football and business, they negotiate tough and and so 228 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: you know, they have a way of doing things. It 229 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: might not be on everybody else's plans. And you know, 230 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: but the thing that kind of makes you feel about 231 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: it is Jerry talked about the leaves needs to seem 232 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: more leave's fault. Well, you do have that. You do 233 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: have an idea of where some of these contracts are at. 234 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: So you're thinking, like, okay, well he has the information 235 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: that he needs where he sees his guy. Does he 236 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: see his guy in with the others? Does he see 237 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: him with the Jeffersons and the Hills and the you know, 238 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 3: Hills was not anymore. It was just more money, more 239 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: guarant But there's some creative ways that they can do this. 240 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: I'm sure they're thinking about that, but I think this 241 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 3: is about I really do think it's about you know, 242 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: how far are you willing to carry this, because we'll 243 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: carry it. You know. With there there's there is and 244 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: I hate to say this though, is that there's there's 245 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 3: job security there. And I mean that in a nice way. 246 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: There's if you're a general manager and you're fighting it 247 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 3: every day, that like this could be my last year. 248 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: You know, you're going to do everything you can to 249 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: make sure that you signed the guys and and give 250 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 3: yourself the best chance. Here, they could like, okay, you 251 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: know we this is how our setup is. And a 252 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: lot of teams have this setup in that way, and 253 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: so to me, I just see them kind of saying, okay, 254 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: I'm I see where you're at here, and maybe they're 255 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: maybe they're not willing to to to give in like 256 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: they did on some of these other deals before. Maybe 257 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 3: it's like, okay, we have to draw the line here. Now. 258 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: You know, we've we've kind of we've kind of allowed 259 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: some deals, the deals we were just talking about to happen, 260 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: and so now it's like, okay, let's see where we're 261 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 3: at here. Uh, with this particular deal, I. 262 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 5: Would still be surprised if we get to week one 263 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 5: and see Lambs not on the field. 264 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 3: Oh I would too, I would too, but I thought 265 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 3: it was going to be ten days in. 266 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: Let me ask you when you say that, When you 267 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: say that, are you saying you'd be surprised if you 268 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 2: get there and he's not there, or you'd be surprised 269 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: if you get there and he doesn't have a deal, 270 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: Because those are two different things. Like, as Brian said, 271 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: is he willing to go million dollars a week? That's 272 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 2: the whole different thing. Man, he has a deal. 273 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 3: His his fifth year option pays him about seventeen and 274 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 3: a half million. And you think about that, Is he 275 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 3: willing to give up a million dollars a week not 276 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: to play football? Right? You know? And that that's a 277 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: strong that you have to have some serious resolve to 278 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: be able to you know, to be able to walk 279 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: away from that. And I, I this is just my thought. 280 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys are betting that he doesn't. I 281 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: think that my opinion. I think the Cowboys are looking 282 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: at this saying he does not have he does not 283 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: have it in him to walk away from a million 284 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: dollars a week. I think that that's just how I 285 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: look at it. I think the record. 286 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 2: I don't either, But go ahead. 287 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 7: I think he'll be there first week of the season. 288 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: But just with a new contract. 289 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 7: As he just asked, he'll be there in person. Let 290 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 7: me just ask you guys this. 291 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. But see that's what I'm saying. That's the problem 292 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 3: now I have. I think the Cowboys are going to 293 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys are really going to play. They're 294 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: going to play this all the way out and see 295 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: if he's like, okay, I'll come in four. But say 296 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: he has a contract. It could be below really what 297 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: the top receivers. You know, it could be instead of 298 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: thirty five million dollars, it could be a thirty million 299 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: dollar contract. 300 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: But you know, I actually don't think the number is 301 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: going to be the hold. I don't think that's what's 302 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: holding this thing up. I actually believe this is about 303 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: how you structure it because when you, oh, yeah, that's 304 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: where the problems laughing this team. Think about where Cowboys 305 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: right now are having struggles. It's in the salary cap. 306 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: So they got to think about it's not the total number, 307 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: it's like, how do we divvy this up so that 308 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: every year it's not going to put us over salary capital? 309 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: Also trying to negotiate maybe a sixty million dollar deal 310 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: with the quarterback. Maybe who knows how much you're gonna 311 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: have to pay Mike, if you know when that time comes. 312 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: We started looking at that. The Cowboys really have to 313 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: think about, like how much is being is contracts exactly? Yeah, 314 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: And I think that's more of the issue. 315 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,479 Speaker 3: And that's a big issue. 316 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: Than just the number. I think the number has been 317 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: laid out. You just look at all the other comps, 318 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: so you got the number to. 319 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:29,119 Speaker 3: Them, You're absolutely right. Yeah, to the receiver, better than Jefferson, 320 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: better than Hill? You think, well, no, that's what. 321 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: No, No, I'm asking him. Do you think do you 322 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: think he is better than Jeffs? 323 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: Well, no, I think I'm saying he as a player, 324 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: looks at he's the one guy that I would pay. 325 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: That's just me talking again, it's not Dallas guy. It's 326 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: me talking. Yah. Yeah, i'd pay him because I think 327 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: he's gonna live up to his contract. Agree, I would 328 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: pay him. Yeah. Now, now he's probably looking at it 329 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: as wait a minute, Jefferson's good. My numbers to Jefferson, 330 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: my numbers to Hill, my numbers to Brown, my numbers 331 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: two he's looking at it that way, and. 332 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: You think he thinks in that way, he thinks I 333 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: should be the highest page. 334 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, the cowboys have to think about the balance sheet 335 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: he's thinking about. No, they call the role. I'm right 336 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: in the I'm I'm on the top three. 337 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 338 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: So that's where I think. I think you've got people 339 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: trying to look at how to stagger contracts, and rightfully so. 340 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 3: And you've got a player saying, hey, this is BS you. 341 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: You don't want to pay me more than that guy. 342 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: You don't want to be My numbers you look at 343 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: over the years, my numbers are just as comparable or 344 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: better than a lot of these guys that are already 345 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: getting paid. 346 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 5: I still think he comes under Jefferson to that To 347 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 5: that note though, and I think I think the smart 348 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 5: annual value comes under Jefferson. 349 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 6: I think the. 350 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: Guaranteed money, that's where it's gonna be. 351 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 5: Where guarantee Hill is getting, it'll push to where a J. 352 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 5: Brown is getting a monross Aint Brown. I think that's 353 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 5: probably where the semantics of this and the nuance of 354 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 5: this deal is probably being worked out. And also the length, 355 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 5: if you're looking at it from cde Lamb's perspective, you 356 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 5: have a quarterback who's going into the final year of 357 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 5: his deal, you have a lot of uncertainty around your 358 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 5: coaching staff, around certain players. On the defensive side, you 359 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 5: have Zach Martin who's going to the final year of 360 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 5: his deal. So if you want to create a little 361 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 5: bit more certainty for yourself, get a shorter term deal, 362 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 5: get that three year deal. 363 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 6: So that cowboy doesn't help the Cowboys at all. 364 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 5: So that's exactly and so from a CD perspective, that 365 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 5: allows him to have some freedom down the line. Whereas 366 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 5: if the Cowboys get him to sign a five year deal, 367 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 5: which is probably what the team would want, then that 368 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 5: pushes him ount even further. Let's say three years from now, 369 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 5: he doesn't have that quarterback, he doesn't have that coaching staff, 370 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 5: he doesn't have that offensive line in front of him. 371 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 6: He's gonna want out, and. 372 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 5: I think that would create a more toxic situation than 373 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 5: what happened yesterday. So I think the dynamics of everything, 374 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 5: it's everybody trying to predict the future, and nobody can 375 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 5: really predict the future. At the end of the day, 376 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 5: I think Dax deal is going to be a very 377 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 5: big determining factor in all this. I think Dak's deal 378 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 5: and those negotiations have to reach a certain threshold for 379 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 5: this team to feel comfortable signing a CD LAMB to ideal, 380 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 5: just because they need to understand the number that DAK 381 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 5: is going to have at the end of the day, 382 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 5: and they need to have an expectation of what MICA's 383 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,239 Speaker 5: number will look like next year. I think once they 384 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 5: have a good good feel about those two numbers, CD 385 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 5: can get done. But I really do believe that this 386 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 5: CD and DAK negotiation, that's not a coincidence. 387 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 7: I have heard update on the dark contract. 388 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, there was no update yesterday. 389 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, so that's another thing that's lingering on there as well. 390 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: It is a lot good a question, Yeah, but I 391 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 2: want to do this. Let's take our break and we 392 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: come back. I want to take Amber's question, and there 393 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: will take question, and then we'll actually get to some 394 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: practice notes and we'll figure out what you guys saw 395 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: up there on the practice of yesterday. 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Before the break, you 460 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: had a question. 461 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: What was the question? 462 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 7: I've been getting this question a lot on social media. 463 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 7: Can the Cowboys play a game without CD? 464 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: Okay? 465 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,239 Speaker 7: Obviously the answer is yes, yeah, But how well can 466 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 7: they play given the fact that we keep talking about 467 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 7: how well the receivers have been doing a training can 468 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 7: everybody and you know it'll be tough to make some 469 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 7: cuts down the road here soon. But how confident or 470 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 7: how comfortable would you guys feel with the Cowboys playing 471 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 7: a game if that was to be the scenario for 472 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 7: whatever the reason? Can they play week one? How well 473 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 7: can they play without a CD? 474 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 6: Yeah? 475 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 5: It depends on the game, right and we're looking at 476 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 5: the game being the Cleveland Browns and the defense that 477 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 5: they had last year in Cleveland. You need a playmaker 478 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 5: like CD Lamb on the field. I think if it 479 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 5: was a situation where you know, you're playing the Commander's 480 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 5: Week one and they're trying to figure out their new 481 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 5: identity under Dan Quinn and things of that nature, maybe 482 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 5: have a little bit more freedom there. But I think 483 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 5: with the instance of going to Cleveland, it being that 484 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 5: afternoon game, that first Fox game of the season, and 485 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 5: you're going into the Dog Pound, you need CD Lamb 486 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 5: in that building. 487 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 3: Quarterbacks outstanding. You know, he's playing practicing really well out here. 488 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 3: I mean he's gonna have to carry you. There was 489 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 3: a similance of a running game yesterday. You know there 490 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: were some holes. I haven't seen a lot of holes 491 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 3: when it's been Cowboys versus Cowboys. There were holes when 492 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 3: it was Cowboys vers Rams. How well can you run 493 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: the football? Will you allow teams to completely take away? 494 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: Ferguson Cooks had a good day yesterday. I would mention 495 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 3: him as one of my top guys. Tolbert showing a 496 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: little bit something more than what we kind of thought, 497 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: or at least what I thought he was gonna be. 498 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: You don't want to play a game without Lamb. But 499 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: to me, it's not as dire as I once thought 500 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 3: it was coming in here because I've seen I've seen 501 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: a little bit of emergence of Tolbert and the quarterback 502 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: looks like he's picked up where he left off last 503 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: year with some of his throws. So that would be, Yeah, 504 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 3: you're gonna put it all on him, and you know 505 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: he's he'll he'll, he'll go as best as he can 506 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: with it. But it would be a it'd be difficult, 507 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 3: but it's it's and I'm not even gonna say manageable. 508 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it probably won't look pretty, but you know, 509 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: you got to find a way to get it done. 510 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: If that was the case, Yeah, I'll tell you this. 511 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: I actually was having this conversation with a couple of 512 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 2: media guys as we were standing watching practice a couple 513 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: of days ago, and I asked the question, do you 514 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: think Dak looking at him out here on the field 515 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: this year, looking at the fact that last year he 516 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 2: was second in voting, second in voting in the NFL 517 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: as far as far as league MVP, do you think 518 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: he's at the point in his career where he could 519 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: feasibly carry this offense with without the talent around him, 520 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: like with just good talent around him and everybody everybody 521 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 2: to a man that was in that conversation said, you know, 522 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 2: I think he might be able to do it. I 523 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: think maybe he's at that point where he could do that. 524 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: And so to your question, Amber, that's always been a question, 525 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: and quite frankly, he's never really been put in that 526 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 2: position other than one time, and he wasn't ready at 527 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: that point. But but I think now, I think you 528 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: look at how he's developed, you look at what he's 529 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: doing out here just training camp, and obviously that's not 530 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: the game, so let's not equate it in the same way. 531 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: But it does give me reason to believe that if 532 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: ever there was a chance for him to be able 533 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: to take that next step as a quarterback. Where again, 534 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 2: when you're gonna make sixty million, you're not gonna have 535 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: all the talent around you. Can you be the person 536 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: that really makes it go. I actually want to see 537 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: if he's ready, if he's ready to take that next sleep. 538 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you this, that's a dangerous thing for 539 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: CD because if CD doesn't have a contract at that 540 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: point and the Cowboys start watching, and let's say you 541 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: get two or three games into the season and this 542 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: offense is moving without CD Lamb, now it begs the 543 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 2: question do the Cowboys need to pay? Do they need 544 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: to really then be focused on paying Dak Prescott more 545 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: so than they are focused on paying CD Lamb. And 546 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: I'm not saying any of this will happen. All I'm 547 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: saying is those are the things that you'll be watching, 548 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: and I'm sure CDs camp will be watching as well. 549 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: If he decides to continue his holdout like that can 550 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 2: get really really interesting for everybody. 551 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 6: You need Cede Lamb in January. 552 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 5: That's where I think they can hold that leverage there, 553 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 5: just because they Dad could go out and have four 554 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty yards passing in the first three weeks 555 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 5: in each game, They're still going to need CD Lamb 556 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 5: whenever playoff time comes around. 557 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 6: So I still feel like that leverage is on the table. 558 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 5: He's still at the end of the day that he 559 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 5: is their best offensive playmaker and whenever they do go 560 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 5: to San Francisco they need him. Whenever they do play 561 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 5: against Detroit in the season or whether that's in the 562 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 5: playoffs too, they need him. 563 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 6: And he was very crucial in that Detroit game last year. 564 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 5: So I think they could still hold that leverage at 565 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 5: the end of the day, regardless of how Dak. 566 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 6: Performs stood to open the Season's that's how. 567 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: I still want That was it. That was the whole question. 568 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: That the whole question is actually a really great question. 569 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, let's get some practicing. 570 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 2: Let's hear what happened on the field yesterday. It was 571 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 2: actually a really good I thought a lot of good competition. 572 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: I saw a lot of interesting things from the Cowboys. 573 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 2: Let's go down the line. Let's start first on the 574 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball. I want each you guys 575 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: to give me an observation that you saw from the 576 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: Cowboys offense going up against the Rams defense. 577 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 7: Let's start first with you, Brian, no start with me, 578 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 7: because I think he's gonna say the same because we 579 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 7: were standing around the same spot or we were watching 580 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 7: the same stuff. 581 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk about the old life. 582 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 7: Let's just hope and pray that everybody, all the starters 583 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 7: stay healthy, they all stay healthy this season because the 584 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 7: backups did not look good. They were on the ground 585 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 7: quite a bit, and it's just it's very different than Brian. 586 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 7: We were talking about the difference it makes when you 587 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 7: go up, when you start practicing or playing against other 588 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 7: people that is not the people that you've been practicing 589 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 7: against this whole time, and we saw that. I mean, 590 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 7: I didn't realize how bad they actually were until until yesterday. 591 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 7: As far as these backup. 592 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: Guys one on ones. 593 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 7: Was like I was just like, oh my god, uh 594 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 7: uh oh my god, oh oh that hurt me. So 595 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 7: that was just an a completely eye opening for me 596 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 7: to see that because I have I hadn't realized the 597 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 7: lack of ability that was there up until they had 598 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 7: to go against the Rams yesterday. In that point, But 599 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 7: another thing that I was gonna say that that's on 600 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 7: the positive, and we already kind of mentioned it was 601 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 7: the running game Sekiel, Elliott, Rinco Doll. I mean they're 602 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 7: starting to show up and that's very, very exciting. And 603 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 7: when you see the started o line, the holes and 604 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 7: the gaps that they're creating for them, and then their 605 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 7: ability to break and run free has been really really impressive. 606 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I can I follow up the question there. 607 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 5: Do you feel whenever you say the backup offensive line 608 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 5: had a weekday, are you looking more so at the 609 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 5: tackles or are you looking at the offensive line as 610 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 5: a whole, Because I feel like TJ. 611 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 6: Bass and Cooper Bebe they still had some good moments yesterday. 612 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 7: Good moment, but in the sense that it's similar to 613 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 7: what we've been watching already. That's where the other players 614 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 7: stood out most that you think they're they're okay, and 615 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 7: then they were absolutely terrible. BB. I think there's still 616 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 7: room to grow there. 617 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 6: For sure. 618 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 7: A lot he looked okay. It wasn't impressive, it wasn't like, 619 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 7: oh my god, let's cry about this draft pick. But TJ. Bass, 620 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 7: on the other hand, he's a guy that even since 621 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,719 Speaker 7: last year, a lot of people have always talked very 622 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 7: highly about him, and he's a guy that I think 623 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 7: I still like And what he's done. He's had his 624 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 7: good moments, but again not to the point where I'm 625 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 7: like extremely impressed. 626 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there was. There was a little bit 627 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: of both in which because I was when I was 628 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: watching BB, I was like, okay, that's a good rip 629 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 3: because uh and thank you guys for letting me be 630 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 3: a part of training camp live again. And and I 631 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 3: was down with the with the offensive line in the 632 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: backups and stuff, and I thought there was sometimes the tackles. 633 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 3: I think Matt will Let's go had a rough day yesterday. 634 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: I think that Steele at times had a rough day yesterday. 635 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 3: Awesome Richards. I know the one video of him, you know, 636 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: with first going over the top of him was played 637 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: and that was a bad rep. What bothered me about 638 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: the backups yesterday and but the ones, like you mentioned, 639 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: there was a good reps with BB. I thought Ball 640 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: held his own yesterday at guard which you know what 641 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: bothered me yesterday about the group is I've seen him 642 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 3: block against the Cowboys front in the one on once 643 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: and played with really good technique, you know, hands inside, 644 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: sit down, you know, kick side punch. Yesterday it was 645 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: like going back to survival, Like, Okay, I got you 646 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: get beat badly on the first rep, and now you're 647 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: going to try and short set of guy and then 648 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: you lunch and then he swims around you and now 649 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 3: you're off bouts and it's snowballs on it. There was 650 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: times where you're like, man, they don't even look like 651 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: they've practiced, you know, work because but that's the thing 652 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 3: that bothers you the most is when you've seen him 653 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 3: have some success. It's the same thing like we was 654 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 3: talking about with Mazzie Smith. And I don't mean to 655 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 3: bring him into this, but I do. When you see 656 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: positivity and then you're like, what just happened? What And 657 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 3: it's like all these players and I think this is 658 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 3: what that practice did yesterday. It was in a way 659 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: eye opening that how could they how could they look 660 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 3: so good going against guys and then they get in 661 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: this and then it turns into like chaos, you know 662 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: with it. But I uh, that was something that was 663 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 3: again eye opening to me. 664 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 5: I will say for me, whenever the team drills were 665 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 5: going on early in practice, the Cowboys, they were relying 666 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 5: a lot on their run game, Like they. 667 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 6: Came out with a lot they throw. 668 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 3: That left side was good. Yeah, the number one watching. 669 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 5: It was super awesome and that left side was awesome. 670 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 5: Richards and Tyler Smith and so Rico Dowdell Ezekiel Elliott. 671 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 5: They both had big runs on the left side of 672 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 5: that offensive line. It gotta give credits. Yeah, huge holes. 673 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 5: And I have to give credit to bro Kauffman as well. 674 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 5: He was going back and forth with Kobe Turner. 675 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 6: Looks so good. 676 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 5: Kobe Turner's awesome. I mean, he's a great defensive tackle 677 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 5: for them. I think they got to steal there. I 678 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 5: think they ended up with him in the second or 679 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 5: third round a year a year ago, and he's gonna 680 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 5: be their guy that kind of not Aaron Donald replacement. 681 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 5: You can't replace that guy, but he's gonna be the 682 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 5: guy that's in the interior that they're going to rely 683 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 5: upon a little bit more. But him, Brandon Fisk they 684 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 5: were rotating in and brock Kaufman was still able to 685 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 5: have his battles with them. He took a punch and 686 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 5: he'd punch right back, you know, and almost figured almost 687 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 5: literally too, because they were getting into it a little 688 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 5: bit with some words. But I really loved what I 689 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 5: saw in the running game because that's the biggest question 690 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 5: on this offense. Arguably you could say it's the only 691 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 5: question on this offense, depending on how you feel it 692 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 5: left tackle and center. But they answered a lot of 693 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 5: questions yesterday as far as Okay, Rico daubt o make 694 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 5: a big play, Okay Ezekiel Elliott can make a cut. 695 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 5: So I think both of those things were really big 696 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 5: to come away with. As far as the offensive side 697 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 5: of the ball. 698 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: You know when you when you mentioned the running game, 699 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 3: dude and a dooga was in there until he had 700 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 3: the until he had the spasms in his back, and 701 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 3: then he was out of the line up there. 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See add dot com 766 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 9: slash five G for you for details. 767 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 3: Back to the Break. 768 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 7: Oh I'm so sorry, guys, I was looking at an email. 769 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 7: But AT and T is the official sponsor of the 770 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 7: Dallas Cowboys, and AT and T keeps me connected here 771 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 7: so I can reply to emails from work. 772 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 3: Lere we go? 773 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, take that. 774 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 3: Welcome back, It is email, right. 775 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the final segment of the Break. Here 776 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: from Oxnard, California, we have one, two, three more episodes. 777 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 2: Your camp. So this thing is round and out. It's 778 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 2: only three more because we get we're next twoes Day 779 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 2: and Thursday and then with a following Tuesday, and then 780 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 2: we'll be heading home on Thursday. 781 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 3: So uh it is. 782 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: It's moving along here. We're actually past the halfway point 783 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 2: of our time here in Oxtar. 784 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 3: Nobody is so happy than you. It seems like, say again, 785 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 3: nobody's more happier than you about this, are you? 786 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 2: I want my life back. 787 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 6: Feels like college's that's that's what I tell people. And 788 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 6: it's back home. 789 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, we all eat together, we sleep in dorms, 790 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 5: we we hang out and do work until like eleven 791 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 5: eleven thirty. Yes, almost at schoolwork, but I was like 792 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 5: studying that doesn't sound right. But yeah, it feels like 793 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 5: college in a sense. 794 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 3: It's it's I love this. Yeah that's great. 795 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 2: I mean, don't love me wrong. The weather's awesome. We 796 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 2: get a lot done. But like I enjoy going home 797 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 2: at nineteen, my family and you know, all the things 798 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 2: that comes to being at home. I just I'm ready 799 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: to go. 800 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 6: I missed my pup, miss my pup. 801 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 2: But that's okay. We're working through this thing. Got about 802 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 2: a weekend. So let's get some defense observations. What'd you 803 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 2: guys see from the Cowboys defense against the Rams office yesterday? 804 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, I jumped the gun, but here we go. Eric 805 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 5: Kendricks Man, he looked fantastic yesterday. And if you're looking for, 806 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 5: you know that on field presence, that on field leadership presence. 807 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 5: He not only brought it from a schematic and knowledge standpoint, 808 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 5: but from a play standpoint yesterday too. 809 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 6: And he was everywhere the ball was. 810 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 5: And that's exactly what you want from from from your 811 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 5: main linebacker going into the season. I think whenever you 812 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 5: look at Kendricks, he needs to have that role where 813 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 5: he is on top of the ball on any given play, 814 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 5: especially in the run game. And that's where we saw him. 815 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 5: Whether it was Cadron Williams or Blake Korham getting handoffs 816 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 5: from Matthew Stafford or Stetson benn In or Jimmy Garoppolo, 817 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 5: it was Eric Kendricks that was right there to be ready. 818 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 6: And he just understands it. 819 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 5: And that's the knowledge, that's the experience that he has 820 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 5: in this league and the acknowledge and experience that he 821 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 5: has has in this defensive system and I think that's 822 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,919 Speaker 5: going to radiate not only throughout the linebacking chorus time 823 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 5: goes on, but the entire team. You have a safety 824 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 5: group that is really good at playing the run and 825 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 5: guys like Donovan Wilson and Milie Cooker in my eyes 826 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 5: one day, Thomas as well, and so if you have 827 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 5: a guy in front of them like Eric Kendricks that 828 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 5: can play the run to his knowledge, to his experience, 829 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 5: that makes their job so much easier on the back end. 830 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be We're gonna look up at 831 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 5: week eleven, Week twelve, We're gonna be like, man, we 832 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 5: really underestimated that Eric Kendricks pickup back when it happened, 833 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 5: just because no one cared at that point. But I 834 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 5: think that's probably been one of the better pickups that 835 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 5: the Cowboys have made in free agency over the last 836 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 5: few years. 837 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 6: So I'll say it a whole lot, but it is 838 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 6: it's saying a lot this time. 839 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 5: You know. 840 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 2: It's interesting about that is I think a lot of people, 841 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 2: the fans will get to see this once they start 842 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 2: playing games. But you can now see, you can see 843 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 2: the difference of how much a veteran, really good linebacker 844 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 2: makes in the middle of your defense, just being able 845 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 2: to diagnose things, being able to get into the right spot, 846 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 2: like all the things that you saw last year in 847 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 2: the run game that just kind of like how is that? 848 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 2: Like how did that guy have that much room to 849 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 2: be able to run? It matters when you have that 850 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 2: linebacker there. And I was talking to Patrick Walker yesterday 851 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 2: we were off air and and we were talking about 852 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 2: He was like, you know, we haven't seen this since 853 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 2: Sean Lee. We haven't seen that kind of linebacker play. 854 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 2: And so I really I'm excited about what Eric Kendrick's 855 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 2: gonna bring in this defense. 856 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 7: I'm excited too. He's looking so good. And another guy 857 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 7: that's looking really, really good, and I mentioned him last show. 858 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 7: I don't want to mention him again, but hey, his 859 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 7: kid keeps putting in the lark and showing up is 860 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 7: rookie Kaylyn Kaylen Killing Kaylyn Kayling Kaylen Carson. He's so 861 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 7: freaking good. And it's impressive because when you see a 862 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 7: rookie doing the things that he's doing, you can only 863 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 7: imagine what the future holds for him and how quick 864 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 7: he is. How what's more impressive to me is his 865 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 7: awareness of everything where the ball is and where everything 866 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 7: that he's doing on the field has been extremely impressive. 867 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 7: I'm super excited. And he's a guy that just I 868 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 7: knew nothing about and then all of a sudden, now 869 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 7: I want to keep knowing more because he's that good. 870 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 7: So he's been very, very solid. 871 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that it's a really good observation for him. 872 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 3: And with Nasehon Wright had a little trouble yesterday the 873 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 3: ball went to the corner on a fade and you're 874 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,399 Speaker 3: like going, ah, got to make that play. I think 875 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 3: with Carson there's a side of me that's kind of 876 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 3: in that mode of just put him out there, you know, 877 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 3: just put him out there. And you know, if you know, 878 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 3: I understand what Naseean Wright is, just let me see 879 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 3: what Carson is taking every rep opposite Bland and playing 880 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 3: in the nickel with Jordan Lewis, So let me let 881 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 3: me see that. Let me if he you know, he's 882 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 3: going to get the opportunity to cover a lot of 883 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 3: guys out here, and he has and he showed up 884 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 3: yesterday in a way too, as you mentioned, like you know, 885 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 3: they try and swing the ball to him on the 886 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 3: outside or towards him, steps up makes the tackle. You know, 887 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 3: next thing, you know, he gets the interception. You know 888 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 3: those interceptions, Yeah, and those he just needs to keep playing. 889 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 3: Just keep playing him and then when they get guiding back, 890 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 3: just keep playing him and see what you have there. 891 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 3: I I will say this though, I really like what 892 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 3: I saw again from Jordan Lewis, and and I covering 893 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 3: Cooper Cup is no fun. Yeah, hey, you want to 894 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 3: you want to deal with one of the best wide 895 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 3: one of the best wide receivers in the game, and 896 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 3: it comes to playing multiple spots and having to deal 897 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 3: with all that. Jordan Lewis did a nice job of 898 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 3: chasing yesterday and and and being in position, uh to 899 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 3: make some plays there. A couple of times Cup caught 900 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 3: the ball. He's going to do that to a lot 901 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 3: of people. But you didn't see Jordan Lewis completely out 902 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 3: of position dealing with that. And that's a that's a 903 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 3: real positive. He's he's had some really good practices out 904 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 3: here and so I and I think you also have 905 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 3: to give And people will say this too. I mentioned 906 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,280 Speaker 3: Mazzie Smith. The one on one stuff with Mazzie Smith 907 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 3: was good yesterday, Yes, it was, you know, he and 908 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 3: that's the thing that I think is the most frustrating 909 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 3: to me is you see stuff like that and you're like, 910 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 3: come on, you could do this, you could do this, 911 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 3: you could do this, and and so hopefully they will 912 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 3: show him the film from last night. He can build 913 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 3: on that a little bit and we see a little 914 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 3: bit more quickness and stuff off the ball. I think 915 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 3: like there's times where he kind of just he gets 916 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 3: he maybe gets a little tired, he gets a little 917 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 3: war down, doesn't play with the same stance, doesn't look good, 918 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,240 Speaker 3: doesn't play as quick as he needs to be. Rogers 919 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 3: is kind of like the other He's doing a good 920 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 3: job of playing fast and trying to get up the field. 921 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 3: But with Mazie, like I say, you see it, you 922 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 3: see it out there, and that's what kind of can 923 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 3: be a little frustrating at times that you know he 924 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 3: could play like that, just needs to be more consistent 925 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 3: doing it. 926 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 5: To both of your points on Kayln Carson, you mentioned 927 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 5: you want to see him if somebody goes down, and 928 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 5: I'm right there with you, I think I want. 929 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 3: To see him with the ones. Yeah, yeah, if they're 930 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 3: not going to practice digs, but they're just kind of 931 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 3: every I would flip the reps, I would say, Okay, 932 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 3: Nashon Wright, you're taking Carson's reps, and Carson you're now 933 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 3: taking Nasehon Wright's reps. 934 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 6: And I'll take it a stuff further into the season. 935 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 5: If there's an opportunity for a different corner to come 936 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 5: onto the field, whether that's Digg's Bland or Jordan Lewis 937 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 5: needing to come out, whether it be for injury or 938 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 5: just rotational work. If Caitlin Carson's not that first guy 939 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 5: on the field, whether it's inside or outside, I think 940 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 5: that's a mistake. He's see before on this roster, and 941 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 5: I think they will come to that conclusion because I 942 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 5: mean you call his name every single day and it's 943 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 5: you're right, Ambar. 944 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 6: I mean he does something every day that you look 945 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 6: at and you're. 946 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 5: Like, Okay, that's a guy, and he's see before on 947 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 5: this roster, and I think if he's the first guy 948 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 5: that rotates in, then that's that's gonna be an overwhelming 949 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 5: positive to keep that defense flowing in case they need 950 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 5: somebody to step up. 951 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 3: Can't throw it overshown too. They tried to throw, They 952 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 3: tried to run the wheel with Williams. The really talented 953 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 3: running back that they had with the Rams. They tried 954 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 3: to throw him on a wheel and Overshown from the 955 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 3: inside was able to carry into the point where Stafford 956 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,959 Speaker 3: was going to throw it, and he pulled it back 957 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 3: because he saw thirteen in the picture and then had 958 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 3: to go to another spot. So there's some good plays 959 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 3: out here from Overshown. You always we talk about him. 960 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 3: He's just such a he's such a complete player, and 961 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 3: he's just trying to kind of work his way back 962 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 3: in after this injury. 963 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 2: Positive sign for the Cowboys that young guys are showing up. 964 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 2: A lot of young they are, and because that's what 965 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 2: they're really gonna they're gonna need the next couple of years. 966 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 7: They took a bed on relying on the younger talent, 967 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 7: and we'll see. 968 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 2: We'll shout out to Will McClay and his staff. They 969 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 2: know they do a good job of bringing in great 970 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 2: young talent. All right, Uh, real quick, before we get 971 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 2: in the show, I got to say hello to my wife. 972 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 2: She's listening, and she was like, does that mean does 973 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,399 Speaker 2: that mean that you missed your wife? 974 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 3: I was like, absolutely, I miss my wife. 975 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 2: They nice to start back up, so I'll be home 976 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 2: soon so until then, until then, we'll keep holding it 977 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:40,959 Speaker 2: down out here for Brian. 978 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 3: Brought to sambor Garcia and Nick Cares. 979 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 2: I'm Derek Hilt and this has been the Break live 980 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 2: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 981 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 982 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 983 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 11: Ye