WEBVTT - #386 Packers Unscripted: One to go

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Mike Spofford. He is my trusted colleague West Hodkuits.

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<v Speaker 1>We're coming to you here from our studios at lambeau

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<v Speaker 1>Field and West. We are one day closer to the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the two thousand eighteen football season for the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay Packers Sunday noon Central time kick off at

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<v Speaker 1>lambeau Field against NFC North rival Detroit. And if there's

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<v Speaker 1>one aspect from the Packers victory against the Jets that

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps we didn't explore enough when we were recapping that game.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked a lot during the course of the season

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<v Speaker 1>about the moments that Marquess Valdes Scantling has had, those

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<v Speaker 1>impact moments in games for a rookie receiver equity me

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<v Speaker 1>as st Brown has had some as well. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if there was a game where both of those

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<v Speaker 1>rookies in the same game had, you know, not just

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<v Speaker 1>a statistical but also a visible on field impact in

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on. It's potentially a really good sign

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<v Speaker 1>here for the Packers if these two rookies can finish

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<v Speaker 1>the season that way. Obviously, going forward into year two, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and It's huge for them right now to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get that kind of production because, as you said, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw Marcosveldo Scantlin kind of get his shot earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this season, then Equonemius st Brown kind of got his opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>But you really haven't seen them work in tandem in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of just really solid production, and it made for

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<v Speaker 1>an historic week. You wrote a great story on packers

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com looking over all the different records and things

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<v Speaker 1>that guys are chasing in different types of status marks.

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<v Speaker 1>But that game against the Jets, unbeknownst to me until afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>was that the first time in franchise history you had

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<v Speaker 1>five different receivers catch at least sixty yards worth of

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<v Speaker 1>passes and Equinemias st Brown I it's I feel terrible

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<v Speaker 1>for him from a physical perspective that he ended up

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<v Speaker 1>sustaining the concussion unfortunate, but from a professional standpoint, five

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<v Speaker 1>catches for ninety four yards, he was on the verge

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<v Speaker 1>of having a really big football game when he had

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<v Speaker 1>to exit if he was able to play that out

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<v Speaker 1>the last quarter and a half. And then from Velde

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<v Speaker 1>Scantling's perspective, I touched on this an inbox for Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>In that there's been some stuff made out of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mid season lulls and those sort of things. The facts

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<v Speaker 1>remain what they are, Mike. This guy has over five

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<v Speaker 1>yards receiving, he's averaging over fifteen yards per catch, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's a rookie. I mean, you look at the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>and your story also outlined to compare him to Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk and some of these other young receivers in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>Veldis Scantlings up there with all of them. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>easy to come in and be an impact player, to

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<v Speaker 1>be putting up those kind of yards as a rookie

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<v Speaker 1>receiver in the NFL. The statistics bear that out. But

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<v Speaker 1>Valdez Scantling has found a way to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>make those impact plays right here in year one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's interesting when you look back at that Jets game.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the five catches for ninety four yards for st. Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>That was five catches on five targets that he had

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<v Speaker 1>had the ball thrown to him five times, made the

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<v Speaker 1>play every time. Felda Scantling his receiving yards was at

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight seventy seventy five yards receiving but also had

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of key defensive past interference penalties that he drew,

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<v Speaker 1>where if that doesn't happen, he's potentially got a one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yard game. Uh when you factor that in and

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned it with regards to MVS, he's is it

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<v Speaker 1>trying to remember now? If it's fifth or sixth in

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<v Speaker 1>the six Yeah, sixth in the league amongst rookie wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers in terms of yardage right now, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>actually just go by receivers, he'd be fifth because one

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<v Speaker 1>of those five guys in front of him is Sae

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<v Speaker 1>Kwon Barkley, the running back for the New York Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>who's piled up a bunch of receiving yards. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is the other thing that's interesting. West five hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight yards right now for MVS. Not only is

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<v Speaker 1>that the most yards receiving by a rookie receiver with

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers, he surpassed Davante Adams total in the mid

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<v Speaker 1>four hundreds from but I went back and looked through

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<v Speaker 1>the entire Rodgers and Farv era only two rookie receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>both of them in Brett Farve's final two years in

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay, surpassed six hundred yards receiving as rookies Greg

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<v Speaker 1>Jennings in two thousand six. James Jones with the record

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of this context six hundred and seventy six

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and seven. So yes, there were there

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<v Speaker 1>was a stretch in the middle or kind of towards

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<v Speaker 1>the back half of the season where eq st Brown

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<v Speaker 1>kind of came on and MVS kind of fell back

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the statistical impact. But over the over

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<v Speaker 1>the whole, when you look at the whole thing, what

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<v Speaker 1>MVS has done this year is nothing to sneeze it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you look at these all these measurables

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<v Speaker 1>and numbers and forty times coming out of the combine

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<v Speaker 1>and and that's all well and good, but you have

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<v Speaker 1>to put to use. And I think the thing as

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<v Speaker 1>impressive as that is to be able to have production,

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<v Speaker 1>have yards, have catches, even have a few touchdowns. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that both of them are above fifteen yards

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<v Speaker 1>per catch that's indicating that they're making big plays in

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<v Speaker 1>your right, I mean, route running, all the small things

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<v Speaker 1>are important. I mean, you know, you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do that to function in this offense. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, Mike. The reason why Brian Judicins use

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<v Speaker 1>these draft picks on these guys, the reason they brought

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<v Speaker 1>them in on Day three to take a flyer. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you would call them on some later round draft

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<v Speaker 1>picks is because of the home run potential there, because

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<v Speaker 1>of what they do that potentially, with some coaching, can

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<v Speaker 1>be rounded out and make a complete receiver. These guys

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<v Speaker 1>have things you can't coach. And st Brown specifically to

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<v Speaker 1>touch on him, a six round draft pick, maybe came

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<v Speaker 1>out a year early, well did come out of yearly,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe year too early. Out of order, Dame, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what what he could have potentially did with the

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<v Speaker 1>success that they've had this season, but he has looked.

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<v Speaker 1>The part in what impresses me is you can use

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<v Speaker 1>him as a slot, you can use him on the boundary,

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<v Speaker 1>and he finds ways to still make plays in his

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<v Speaker 1>catch radius. Michael, how many times have you and I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it throughout the course of this season. A finger

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<v Speaker 1>uh tip toe type catches displays that are instinctive that

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot coach, and that that for a sixth round

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<v Speaker 1>draft pick. That's what's impressed me. Size, speed, everything you

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<v Speaker 1>look for, you get them coached up here in the

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<v Speaker 1>next two or three years, and Aaron Rodgers has some

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate weapons to work with for the foreseeable future. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of years, the Packers have needed

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<v Speaker 1>to restock for the future at the skill positions around

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers. We saw two years ago in the draft

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<v Speaker 1>they took a fourth round, fifth round in seventh round,

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<v Speaker 1>pick three guys on the third day at running back. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>for Davante May's, the seventh round pick, some injuries going

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<v Speaker 1>into his second year, things didn't work out. But the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth rounder and the fifth rounder, Jamal Williams and Aaron Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked plenty about them. It turned out kind of

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<v Speaker 1>using this a similar strategy in this last draft. You

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<v Speaker 1>use a fourth round, fifth round, in sixth round pick

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<v Speaker 1>on More and MVS and e Q, And now with

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<v Speaker 1>Jamon More, a lot of fans are asking, well, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the deal with him? He was the first one they

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<v Speaker 1>picked out of the three. You know what's going on there? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so the other guys moved ahead of him on the

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<v Speaker 1>depth chart. You know, there are a lot of fans

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<v Speaker 1>who already just right off Jamon More and say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is obviously not gonna make it. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to do that right away. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>the fumble last week on the kickoff return unfortunate. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll remember this about Jamon Moore. He had a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of really bad drop passes in the preseason this year

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<v Speaker 1>and he really had to buckle down. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>came back the very next preseason game. He dealt with

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<v Speaker 1>that adversity, he made some big plays for the Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>and he showed that he can play in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's got another pretty significant moment of adversity he

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<v Speaker 1>has to deal with. These guys don't get this far

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<v Speaker 1>West without being able to handle that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, some will handle it better than others. But

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<v Speaker 1>that being said, anybody who's writing off Jamon Moore right now,

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<v Speaker 1>just because MVS and e Q have moved ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>him on the depth chart this rookie season, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>potentially fatal mistake. I'm glad you set this up for me, Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>because and we didn't plan this. Hung the curve ball

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<v Speaker 1>over the plate here and now I'm ready to take

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<v Speaker 1>it to opposite field. Not that you threw a bad pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you set me up. Well, here, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>take you back to two thousand seventeen. Do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>that year very well? Okay? The Green Bay Packers opened

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<v Speaker 1>the season against the Seattle Seahawks Mike Spofford. The Packers

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<v Speaker 1>had four running backs on the roster for that game.

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<v Speaker 1>Three man roster, Jamal Williams, Davante Mays, Aaron Ripkowski, and

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Jones. Which one of those three was in Which

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<v Speaker 1>one of those four was inactive for that game? It

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<v Speaker 1>was Aaron Jones was inactives his rookie season, first game

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<v Speaker 1>of his rookie season and he was inactive. He was

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of the depth chart. The fifth round

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<v Speaker 1>pick was sitting behind the seventh round pick in Week one,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were questions when you draft that many running backs,

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<v Speaker 1>there's questions about, Okay, how are you going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to make all this work? Well, here's the reality.

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<v Speaker 1>The players have to figure it out. The coaches have

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<v Speaker 1>to figure it out too. You didn't know what Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Jones could do until injuries happened, opportunity happened, and he

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<v Speaker 1>ends up having a big performance. That's the way this

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<v Speaker 1>game works. Nothing is absolute as much as we love

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Madden and you know you you log

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<v Speaker 1>onto your you know you get you get your franchise

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<v Speaker 1>mode up. I know you're a big fan of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You get your franchise mode up. You pick your team

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<v Speaker 1>and you get your roster right, and everybody has an

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<v Speaker 1>overall ranking. You think they got that. In the NFL, No,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't exist, And what one team might think of

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<v Speaker 1>one player might be different than what another team thinks

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<v Speaker 1>about them. So for getting back to original point with

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<v Speaker 1>Jamon Moore, We've seen a time and time again. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's young guys that come in, some guys that clicks.

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<v Speaker 1>There's your Greg jen Things, there's your James Jones that

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<v Speaker 1>just jump off the board and here they are, they're superstars.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's also Jordy Nelson's. There's also these other guys

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<v Speaker 1>that it takes him a few years to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what they are and what they're going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>this league. Antonio Freeman had eight catches for a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and six yards as a rookie. That was one stat

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<v Speaker 1>I saw when I was looking back through the rookie

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<v Speaker 1>receivers in the five Rogers era. It's easy to forget

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff, and what did Donald Driver? Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Driver was the seventh round pick, but what did he have?

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<v Speaker 1>It was like three catches his first two three years,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it? This? It's the way the game works, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know UNTI take at opportunities. The big thing

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<v Speaker 1>for Jamon More this offseason mini camps O t a

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<v Speaker 1>s Training camp is making that next step and showing

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<v Speaker 1>the packers you know, this is a fifth round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>this is why you took me, and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>potential that I have at this position. Yeah. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>make another point along these lines too. I mentioned obviously

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<v Speaker 1>James Jones six hundred and seventy six yards and two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven the most receiving yards by a rookie

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<v Speaker 1>in the far Rogers era. But then even after Jones'

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<v Speaker 1>career got going for a couple of years, he went

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<v Speaker 1>through about with the drops. You know, he wasn't as

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<v Speaker 1>steady with his hands and everything. But then you get

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<v Speaker 1>into two thousand twelve when he was at fourteen touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>led the league or something like that. He became one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most sure handed guys on the entire roster.

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<v Speaker 1>When in the Super Bowl season of two thousand and ten,

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<v Speaker 1>there were some big drop passes that he was taking

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of criticism for. So these guys, they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go through their ups and downs, and yes, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>for some guys that doesn't work out. Other guys will,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, eventually take off and maybe never have a

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<v Speaker 1>dip or a lull in their career. But um, I've

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<v Speaker 1>just learned in my time in this league never be

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<v Speaker 1>too quick to judge. Well. The other thing is too

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure if you asked James Jones now, he much

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<v Speaker 1>rather would have liked to have had those drops issues

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand seven than he did in two thousand ten.

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<v Speaker 1>A contract year, right, I mean, it's it's the way

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<v Speaker 1>the game is played. Absolutely, It's it's all about timing

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<v Speaker 1>and it's about a contract progression. I think that getting

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<v Speaker 1>back to the overlying point that we're trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation, you drafted three receivers, they're all on the roster,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all still in play. You got Jake Kumro two

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<v Speaker 1>into that. I mean, there is some some bright spots

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<v Speaker 1>there for the Packers as they moved to the future

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<v Speaker 1>with this receiving. Yeah, the future of this is going

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<v Speaker 1>note on the receivers, the one that everybody is talking

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<v Speaker 1>about here heading into this final game. Davante Adams, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you're gonna say all those are well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see if the Iowa State products. We we joke about

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<v Speaker 1>Alan Bazard because there are a handful of Iowa State

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<v Speaker 1>alums in the building who were very excited when the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers signed for He's the cyclone receiver. He's the first

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<v Speaker 1>since Wallace right, Seneca Wallace, I think on this roster

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<v Speaker 1>just yes, from from Iowa State. I believe that's correct. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's always some enthusiasm in the building when an

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<v Speaker 1>Iowa State player arrives. But Davante Adams, he has a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eleven receptions this this season. The franchise record

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<v Speaker 1>for one year is a hundred and twelve sterling sharp

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<v Speaker 1>in so two catches. To get that, he also needs

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and thirty four yards two beat Jordy Nelson's

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<v Speaker 1>single season record from of one thousand, five hundred and nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Nelson the only receiver in the history of the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>to post a fifteen hundred yards season. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>see this playing out now? Davantae Adams miss practice on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did talk to reporters and sounded pretty optimistic

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<v Speaker 1>that he was going to play. He just got kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an awkward tackles early in the Jets game. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>he ended up getting eleven catches. He said it was

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<v Speaker 1>the second catch of the game. Um, yeah, yeah, he had.

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<v Speaker 1>He had eleven catches. That he went from a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>to a hundred and eleven but he said on the

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<v Speaker 1>second catch, the defender tackled him a little awkwardly, landed

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<v Speaker 1>on his knee and it got a little stiff and

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<v Speaker 1>sore after the game. So he's being a little cautious

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<v Speaker 1>so far in practice this week sounds like he's gonna play.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he wants to play and take a shot

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<v Speaker 1>at those records. What do you think? How do you

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<v Speaker 1>see this plan out? Yeah, it's a tough one to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out as far as projecting. I mean, I have

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<v Speaker 1>about I don't know, somewhere between three and four thousand

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<v Speaker 1>different things in my job description, but it happens to

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<v Speaker 1>be that physician is not one of them right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know what what Davant Adams is going through.

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<v Speaker 1>Knee injuries are, so they're tricky because of the nature

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<v Speaker 1>of the position. Not to diminish anything on the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line they got to get back in their back pedal

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<v Speaker 1>or or the linebackers. It's it's it's tough, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>all about explosiveness now. I think the biggest thing for

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<v Speaker 1>Davante Adams at him and Pat mackenzie. The training staff

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna have to figure out is is there any

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<v Speaker 1>danger long term if they feel like there isn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're going to see him out there, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're gonna him make a run at this thing. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's as we stand here on Thursday before the padded practice.

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<v Speaker 1>But what impresses me the most about Adams is the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that, as you said, he's a hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four yards away, he's two catches away from history. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking at his locker on Wednesday and sort of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, mentioning how some of these things happen when

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<v Speaker 1>you least expect it. Now, he's not saying that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go into the season with high with high goals

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<v Speaker 1>for himself. We both talked to him this offseason. He

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<v Speaker 1>set the bar incredibly high. He threw that tweet out

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<v Speaker 1>there in the off season about twenty touchdowns, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>which which generated a lot of attention. But but it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it was in the spirit of hey, why

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<v Speaker 1>not h and and I think when you see now,

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<v Speaker 1>as he said, the reason he said those words was

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<v Speaker 1>he never went out this year seeing, Okay, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>beat Geordie's record. I'm gonna aim for a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty catches he wanted to challenge himself to be better,

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<v Speaker 1>be better than the last season, be better than the

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<v Speaker 1>last time he played the Lions. If he does that

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<v Speaker 1>again nine catches for hundred forty yards, he'll have write

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<v Speaker 1>his way into the history books. But the biggest thing

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<v Speaker 1>for Davante Adams is he said, is he would trade

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<v Speaker 1>it all in for a winning record, to be to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the playoffs. And you know, for a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that just had the Brinks truck back up for him,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, is considered one of the top receivers

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<v Speaker 1>in league, being paid like one of the top receivers

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<v Speaker 1>the league, and to perform like one of the top

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<v Speaker 1>receivers to league. There's no hype with this guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>is what he is, he plays how he plays, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's only twenty six years old. Mike, you and I

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<v Speaker 1>have covered this league for a long time. Where was

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<v Speaker 1>Jordy Nelson at six? Where was Greg Jennings at six?

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<v Speaker 1>Jennings had some good seasons, but I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>anyone's been at his advanced Right now is where Adams is.

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<v Speaker 1>And as Aaron Rodgers alluded to the kids only getting better. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and that's what Adams himself. You can almost sense

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<v Speaker 1>when he talks to reporters he's he's very measured, very humble,

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<v Speaker 1>yet always confident, but you can almost sense how excited

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<v Speaker 1>he is for his own future because he knows his

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback believes in him, but that his quarterback also thinks

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<v Speaker 1>there's bigger and better things to come aside from these

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<v Speaker 1>potential franchise records he's going for now, that'll be uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be fun to think about and talk about here

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<v Speaker 1>going forward. And honestly, Michael, the fact that he is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna end up with at least a hundred and eleven catches,

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<v Speaker 1>at least yards, at least twelve touchdowns, this guy is

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<v Speaker 1>still only thinking about, Okay, how can I top that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no sustainability in his mindset. It's about what can

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<v Speaker 1>I do to get better? And honestly, that's what made

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<v Speaker 1>him the type of receiver he was at Fresno State,

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<v Speaker 1>having two of the most impressive college seasons I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see for FBS football. It's what made him

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<v Speaker 1>a second round draft pick and it's what's making him

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<v Speaker 1>one of the top receivers in this league. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just the beginning to I mean, if he

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<v Speaker 1>can stay healthy there, you know, the sky is the

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<v Speaker 1>limit for that gay. Yeah. Well, we've got one more

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<v Speaker 1>show to go this week. We will get two keys

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<v Speaker 1>to victory for the Packers over the Lions on tomorrow's show,

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<v Speaker 1>but for now, we're going to call it a wrap

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