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Speaker 1: Did they fail you?

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Speaker 2: That is our job, and I tell you that's why

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Speaker 2: I'm here. So let's get us what we need so

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Speaker 2: firefighters can do their jobs.

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Speaker 1: Did they fail you?

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Speaker 2: Yes, When a firefighter comes up to a hydrant, we

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Speaker 1: We don't control the water supply.

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Speaker 2: Our firefighters are there to protect lives and property and

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Speaker 2: to make sure that we're properly trained and equipped.

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Speaker 1: Does the buck stop with you? I mean you're governor

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Speaker 1: of California. In buying it will be the mayor of California.

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Speaker 1: We're all in this together. We're all better off. We're

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Speaker 1: all better off. We're all better off, and we're working

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Speaker 1: together to take care of people.

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Speaker 3: So at first clip happened on Friday. It's La Fire

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Speaker 3: Chief Kristin Crowley. They had to drag the answer out

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Speaker 3: of her, but she finally did offer up. Yes, They

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Speaker 3: the city council and the mayor failed us, and then

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Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom masked this morning or last night, does the

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Speaker 3: buck stop with you? Homa Hamana Hamana HALMONA bad.

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Speaker 4: Answer politically, indeed, to discuss the politics and the realities

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Speaker 4: of the fire and how they intertwine. Please welcome to

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Speaker 4: the show the editor in chief of the California Globe,

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Speaker 4: Katie Grimes, who's been writing about California politics for Ages

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Speaker 4: and Ages.

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Speaker 1: Katie, how are you?

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Speaker 5: I am well, thanks for having me, Jack and Joe.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's always a pleasure.

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Speaker 4: So I want to use as a springboard your last

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Speaker 4: couple of columns for the Globe. First of all, what

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Speaker 4: you published last week, which touches on a couple of things.

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Speaker 4: I just if you can give the nickel version for

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Speaker 4: people of the insurance crisis in California, how many people

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Speaker 4: weren't insured or had just gotten dropped and why that is?

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Speaker 4: Because I heard an utterly, utterly misleading description of it

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Speaker 4: from professional liar Kristin Welker on Meet the Press Sunday.

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Speaker 4: But go ahead, Katie, what's the real situation insurance wise?

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Speaker 5: Well, the insurance crisis in California is devastating and it's

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Speaker 5: hitting people, you know, North State, South State, everywhere. I

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Speaker 5: don't think we have any numbers at the moment of

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Speaker 5: how many people, say in Pacific Palisades, had their fire

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Speaker 5: insurance canceled, or even homeowners in many cases with insurance companies,

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Speaker 5: you know, fleeing the state along with half of California,

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Speaker 5: it seems, but it's it is absolutely devastating because you know,

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Speaker 5: you think back to the campfire up here in Paradise, California,

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Speaker 5: it was also unbelievably costly for insurers, and then the

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Speaker 4: We're just looking for broad strokes, just a very quick

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Speaker 5: What's wrong with it is politics purely. And this goes

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Speaker 5: back to Proposition one O three, which was put on

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Speaker 5: the ballot to essentially cap the amount of premiums insurance

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Speaker 5: companies could impose on the insured, rather than fixing the

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Speaker 5: problem of why it costs so much to build and

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Speaker 4: It ordered them to only look at historical data as

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Speaker 5: It is entirely unrealistic. And boy, we're going to see

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Speaker 5: what a disaster, a financial disaster, this is going to

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Speaker 5: be following the fires.

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Speaker 4: And then I know you wrote about water as well,

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Speaker 4: in the fact that California has built no water storage

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Speaker 1: It's just terrible governance.

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Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, Not only have we not built any water

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Speaker 5: twenty fourteen, which would it set aside two point seven

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Speaker 5: And in the meantime, the amount of water that flows

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Speaker 5: fifty percent of the state's water to eighty percent of

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, how fair is it to lay blame at

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Speaker 5: Well, I think Avenussen's responses show you exactly how fair

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Speaker 5: it is. He's running as fast as he can from responsibility.

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Speaker 5: And yet this is what he signed up for. When

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Speaker 5: you sign up to be governor of California, you do

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Speaker 5: he's not handling this very well. It is fair to

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Speaker 5: long before he became governor. Leftism in California has gotten

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know your recent column, which is terrific, the

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Speaker 4: anti American Agenda's California's Democrats catching up. You point out

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Speaker 4: priorities and what he has been focused on. Newsom created

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Speaker 4: He's embraced illegal immigrants, even providing health insurance. He's also

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Speaker 3: And you didn't mention the most recent trump proofing California

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, Gatie, Yeah, I devoted an entire article to

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Speaker 5: it does show you he's doing everything but governing. And

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Speaker 5: I assume governing is not always very sexy. It doesn't

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Speaker 5: But that's not what's happened. He is he's adopted this

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Speaker 5: They want water to be in their fire hydrants. We

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Speaker 3: You've been falling politics in California for a long time.

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Speaker 3: I was reading Mark Alprin's newsletter today and he said, hell,

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Speaker 3: hath no fury like a homeless celebrity. A Los Angeles

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Speaker 5: It could be. And Mark Halpern's absolutely right. And I

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Speaker 4: I hope well, and I'm sure gavinus people would say, look,

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Speaker 4: But they can't if the walking is, you know, having

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Speaker 1: No, you can't. You haven't. You've proven it over and

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Speaker 4: And to the rest of the country listening, you're like, well,

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Speaker 4: why doesn't why don't you vote Democrats out office? It's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. It's a huge problem we have in California

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the regular folks really just they can't accumulate enough

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Speaker 4: mass to take it back Katie Grimes is the editor

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Speaker 1: California Globe dot com.

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Speaker 4: You ought a bookmarket check it all the time if

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Speaker 1: California Globe dot com. Katie, great to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, thanks very much so. The Brentwood neighborhood, which you

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Speaker 1: That neighborhood where OJ was framed for a crime. That

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Speaker 3: And that neighborhood is also home to former Senator Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you've heard of her, Lebron James, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Harrison Ford,

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Speaker 4: I actually appreciated sixty minutes last night going heavily at

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Speaker 3: The number of people I've seen on TV saying, literally

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Speaker 1: Where do you start? Oh my god, would that be overwhelming?

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Speaker 4: And as I said before, just to put a cap

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Speaker 4: southern California? Yes, were those incredibly powerful wins freakish and

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Speaker 4: rare one hundred percent. There are aspects of this fire

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, there are aspects of it that are.

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Speaker 4: And if this draws people's attention to the utterly incompetent

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Speaker 1: Karen Bass is an avowed communist.

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Speaker 4: She cut the fire budget, according to her chief, to

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Speaker 4: a damaging level to support drug addicts and illegal immigrants

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Speaker 3: Uh did you see over the weekend where she was

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Speaker 3: at least hinting that people are criticizing her because she's blacked.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a couple of celebrities are out saying that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, hey, put the final nail in the

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Speaker 4: coffin of your fake accusations of racism.

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Speaker 1: Do it now? That was perfect.

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Speaker 3: And the state level, when you start talking about not

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Speaker 3: having enough money for this or that, come on, you

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Speaker 3: don't get to say that.

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Speaker 1: As long as there's a bullet train project. You gotta

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Speaker 1: end that before you can ever say a word.

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Speaker 3: About not having enough money for this or that. Amen,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, we got more on the waist here.

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Speaker 1: We're all better off. We're all better off. We're all

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Speaker 1: better off, and we're working together.

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Speaker 5: Armstrong and Getty