1 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: From the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in Burie, Ohio. This 2 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: is Clearlynn Brown's Daily sp in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, 3 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Ziggura. How would you describe what 4 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: you're hearing in your ears because I just want to 5 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: compare it to what I'm hearing in mind. No x yep, 6 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah that's what it was originally. Yeah. Can I just 7 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: can't hear to my own hear Can you hear me though? No? 8 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: And I'm having a hard time hearing you two. It's there, 9 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: It's there, but it's not as strong as normal. I 10 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: hope the people can can the people hear us? Can 11 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: give it the poison? How do we sound? Oh? Too much? 12 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Too hot? Too hot? Well, what I heard what's happening? 13 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: Programming is really high and they are microphone line and 14 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't know why that's happening. We literally moved all 15 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: this gear five minutes ago. Because I will give them, 16 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: I will give them a lot of credit. They are 17 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: a yeoman's effort from Gibbey and Connor XLR cables long, short, medium, 18 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: you want it, you got it there underneath their Gibbe 19 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: is on his knees and near a general area over there, 20 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: getting stuff done. Stevie has not watched he spounded down yet, 21 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: but I will say, which is painful, but I will 22 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: say that he appears to be and yeah, I'm with 23 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: you on that z. He seems to be an incredibly 24 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: capable Stevie. Yes, I mean he's really he's a nice shot. 25 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: He's a job. I think he's on like the business 26 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: side of Stevie. I think he's like he's getting an a. Yeah, 27 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: it feels like it on the Stevie side of Stevie. 28 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: He sees get degrees. They do. I think if we 29 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: had to choose from a pure joy standpoint for our benefit, 30 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: just us, we would rather have it beat inverted. I 31 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: want Tom Fooler A plus is the Stevie. I don't 32 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: give a care if he helps Kibby. But that's where 33 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: he's that's where he's thriving. Yeah, he's thriving in the game. 34 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: He knows what the head honcho is right, says it 35 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: at his desk, says it there. So that's he's he's 36 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: making sure that he's loyal to give a and I's 37 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: probably a smart play for him right now. And I 38 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: think that is you know, you know, we're in the 39 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: dog days of training camp today, the last day open 40 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: to the fans. Tensions are running high everywhere at the 41 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: Cross Country Mortgage Campus, literally everywhere everywhere. People are sick 42 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: of seeing the same people every day, no matter what 43 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: their line of work is. And I think what Connor 44 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: is doing here is he saying, look if it comes 45 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: to freakases and and you know, people in people's ways 46 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: and untoward comments, I want the big fella. I got 47 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: the big guy. I got the big I got the 48 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: babaos breaking over your heads, no rules you want to 49 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: talk about. That's always the thing you have to be 50 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: curious about in a fight like classically trained and then 51 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: like hard scrabble upbringing. But then also what do you 52 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: got to lose? Right? I mean that's the other that's 53 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: the other factors. You have the factor what do you 54 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: have to lose? And are you willing to lose it? All? 55 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: In the Francis And so that's when you're when you're 56 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: trying to score about or a potential bout and you're 57 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: looking at betting lines of amates. That's what I always 58 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: look at is what do we get to lose? Here? 59 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: I look at what do we have and who do 60 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: I feel like it is willing to get crazier. And 61 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: the first thing I started with in a fight situation 62 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: is if I feel that there is one party in 63 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: the fracas that would need to be vanquished permanently, I 64 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: like that in order to defeat them, I'll usually go 65 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: with that person. Give me that guy, Give me that guy. Yeah, 66 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: I think that's what that is. Um, So there you go. So, yeah, 67 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: we're inside today, we are inside? How did that process go? 68 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: Or do we get bumped? But I thought we were 69 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: it was it? I assumed it was rain, lightning and 70 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: bumping and camp is happening. There's just some modifications to 71 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: camp and the girl I had some other obligations and 72 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: radio row is full today? When this is the last week, 73 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: and tell me when I'm when when this show is 74 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: going to get a priority from the two of you. 75 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: He's worried about b p A all the time. You've 76 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: got engagements other other things taking your attention, all right, 77 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: first of all, and here on an island, I would 78 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: do that engagement just so you know, every day of 79 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: the week, and you were fighting for the good fight, 80 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: you would given the people what they It's kind of 81 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: funny to me because I remember somebody was on vacation 82 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: the first week to train him, and yet here we 83 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: are being grieved grief right here. I'm just trying to 84 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: go take a late night swim and run up the 85 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: stairs as I was born and have the time of 86 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: my life. I'm here for this little That's all I'm 87 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: trying to do. Bacco Nation makes me so happy to see. 88 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: That's all I'm trying to do. I'm trying to be 89 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: like the bold. I'm not trying to go out there 90 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: like not black Obra, but smirching Pearl Jam, even though 91 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: tastes this subjective and at least he's forming his own opinions, 92 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: but still get better. What happened. We're on the way 93 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: back from football practice and Corduroy comes on on one 94 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: of the channels and he goes, he goes, you know, 95 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: I forget exactly what it was, but it's something along 96 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: the lines, if you know. I think. I think Pearl 97 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: Jam is pretty much just okay. And I said, get 98 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: out of the car, get out, walk kindly leave, okay, 99 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: just okay. I think you're just okay, that's right. And 100 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: the thing is is I don't so I don't know, 101 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: like have they become classic rock is pearl gym, classic rocks, classics. 102 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: So that goes from so classic rock is everything like 103 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: all the way back to the late sixties, and then 104 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: does it stop? When? When does it stop? Does it 105 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: go all the way through grunge? Is that all classic rock? Now? 106 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: Is that where we're at a period? Is there anything before? 107 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: Here's what I would say that I get, And I 108 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: think all the hair metal makes sense to be classic rock. 109 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: Here's what I don't know. When we were in the 110 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: nine d s, stuff from the seventies was definitely classic question, 111 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: so that's twenty years. So maybe it's twenty years. Is 112 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: that maybe twenty years is what makes something would take 113 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: you like all the way through like Incubus that's good, 114 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: Limp Biscuits, that's it takes you through, Like yeah, like 115 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: all of that anybody was at anybody was at Stock 116 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: ninety nine, that's a different I think it's classic alt rock. 117 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: We'll see that's usually what it is. If you have yeah, 118 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: like it'd be like, yeah, alt that's probably what it 119 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: would be. Alternative, But I don't know, Maybe that's all 120 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: classic now. We talked about this like one of the 121 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: beautiful things of music now though, is that it's really 122 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: timeless because the kids have no idea when it comes out. 123 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: They're not buying a disc, they're not buying a tape. 124 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: They're just saying, play this to go get it on vinyl. Brother, 125 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: These little kids of mine, they're out there, Oh my god, 126 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: what the hell is the song? So annoying? Pit Bull 127 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: dial it. There's a there's a song that he does 128 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: with Kesha from like ten years ago that they've heard 129 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: for the first time. Les Yeah, they're like, oh, dude, 130 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: have you heard this? This is so great? This is 131 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: so great. I'm like, it sucked a decade ago, it 132 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: sucks now. Do not play it in the vehicle. It 133 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: was overplayed by about a billion percent. Correct, It was 134 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: every ninety minutes and maybe an if they could push 135 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: so they're discovering. I'm like, this is ten years old, 136 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: you bozos. This isn't new. This is not new, not new, 137 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: But you're gonna pearl Jam. I don't know, Like, if 138 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: you want to introduce a kid to pearl Jam, what 139 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: do you play? Like, what would be what you would 140 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: play to make him go, yeah, this is now, I 141 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: got it? Better man? Yeah, probably better man as a kid, 142 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: just because it was the one that made it onto video. 143 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: Jeremy sure Black, if you go way back, I mean 144 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: you got a little bit of that, uh yield was 145 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: great start to finish the whole. I just think that 146 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: particular sound daughter, Yeah, that particular sound is not one 147 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: that would resonate with kids of today. No, there's an 148 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: anst to it, and there's not. That's not a sound 149 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: that they're hearing. It's a good point. I don't know that, 150 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: And that's why I wonder if it's kind of its 151 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: own group grouping. I think it is. It's it's right, 152 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: it's more on the fringe of grunge or was that 153 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: even considered them? Sound Northwest all from Seattle or most 154 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: of them nine inch nails like that was all stuff 155 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: was all was more hardcore probably, yeah, but that was 156 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: all kind of that sure for sure. Yeah, then there's 157 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: some knockoffs you take. The funny thing is we all 158 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: would define classic rock. I think how you define classic 159 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: rock depends on how old you are. Quite frankly, to us, 160 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: classic rock is sixties, seventies, Zeppelin, Floyd all that, the doors, 161 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: even early like Aerosmith should be. But then the animals 162 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: there you go, little house of the Rising Sun. Are 163 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: you kidding me? That's a great song. Great song. Turns 164 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: out it's Jeremy Shaps to go to Karaoke song, which 165 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: I found out from watching thirty seconds of the Best 166 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: two Minutes of Your Life with Joe Thomas with Gibbe yesterday. 167 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: I was just popped up in my feet. I don't 168 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: know where random. Did you see him performing a descent 169 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: of luminaries? Apparently there's a lot of placards, boy, some 170 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: real touring going on here in the facility. Did you 171 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: guys see Shaps sing it? Yes, yes, very quickly. He 172 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: just made him sing it. He just hit the beginning, 173 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: He just hit the There is a house wow in 174 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: New Orleans. I'll be danged there you go. There was 175 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: a time when you if you were on a college 176 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: campus and Jeremy Shap showed up. Then it happened on 177 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: two different places that I covered it that if he 178 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: showed up, you were about to be in trouble. Someone 179 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: was being investigated for something. You're going on probation, suit man. 180 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: If he's showing up, somebody's going on probation, somebody bent 181 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: the rules. Um but yes, yes, so we have that. 182 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: Um so what is it? Is it? So we we 183 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: were thrown out because somebody else needed our space. So 184 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: we were all set. A radio has a lot of 185 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: things going where babies, you know me, we got we 186 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: got some we got tapings going on. There's a lot 187 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: of things. I said, all right, I'll move us over 188 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: to the Browns live tent. Uh. I believe we're doing 189 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: some things in that ten around three o'clock, you know, perfect, 190 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: we'll get out of two fift everybody knows. The rules 191 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: will be great, everything will be great. I'm outside. It 192 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: starts raining, actually quite the downpour at and I get 193 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: a call from Drew Captain Drew, and Drew says, hey, 194 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: f y, I some things are moving around with practice 195 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: today and we're gonna need to go live at two thirty. 196 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: Now that the come Now that being said, we're gonna 197 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: need to go are we? Oh? Are they? Are we 198 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: even actually live? Though? Oh? Are they? It's live if 199 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: you believe it is well, one of the days is 200 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: coming up is live. I don't know if it's today. 201 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm guessing he'll be a joint practice. And I would 202 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: say this joint practices. There may be some special privileges 203 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: granted to this program. We are us. I'm happy this 204 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: is the last day of training camp for everybody else 205 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: and we continue to march on. Do you guys feel 206 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: sometimes like and I missed the first week because I 207 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: was on holiday, do you feel sometimes that um that 208 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: at least that changes that we were able to get 209 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: off that discussion for it's really quickly. You're like, yeah, well, okay, alright, 210 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: not that I shouldn't take vacation. Didn't it feel like 211 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: didn't it feel like like this camp? Like you spent 212 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: a year one three weeks at this camp? It was 213 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: like being in Jacksonville. But I'm also it's funny because 214 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: the crazy part about it is like jackson almost feels like, 215 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: other than the game itself, didn't happen after it was over. 216 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: Going through it was very long, and I feel like 217 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: that camp as well. I feel like I can't believe 218 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: we're done with fans at camp. I'm actually kind of 219 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: stunned by that. Yeah. Yeah, it was both long and quick. Yeah. 220 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: Time man, Yeah, time's crazy times. And I think, and 221 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: I think as you get I don't know if it 222 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: is I think as you get older and time just 223 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: seems more bizarre that your perspective of time, how long 224 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: things have been, how quick things go by is wild. 225 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: Years disappear, and yet months can seem like eternity. There's 226 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: something about this occupation too, that is so seasonal that 227 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: they stack. You know, you and I talked about this before, 228 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: like from that when you do when you do this gig, 229 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: like I always do this with the kids, tell the 230 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: blonde like, hey, look, I'll see in January, like that's 231 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: kind of you're kind of in a bunker until you're 232 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: out of it. And the thing that's you know, kind 233 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: of you know, quite frankly, this is an amazingly fun 234 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: job and all of those things, but there really isn't 235 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: We didn't have an off season. You didn't because you 236 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: go season is now a week longer. You have a 237 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: little bit if you don't make a postseason when you 238 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: get a little bit of time in January, but then 239 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: February you've got combine, Then you got free agency in April, 240 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: then you got draft in May, and then you've got 241 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: mini camp, like where's the window, and so you churn 242 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: and here we go. We're gonna blink and we're gonna 243 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: be in December going five games left. You know, that's 244 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: happen we have a decision from the NFL by then, No, no, no, 245 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: they were in no hurry. You stop with your horrible demands. 246 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, just because it's out there and it's 247 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: just we are talking about the browns out there, I 248 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: just want to ask you one question about it. I 249 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: don't want to get to a deep discussion number one 250 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: that's supposed to be expedited. Okay. The only thing that 251 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: is giving me any modicum of hope is that if 252 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: he was just rubber stamping exactly what the what the 253 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: NFL wanted, why wouldn't be done already? Well, unless you're 254 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: trying to prevent the perception of that, So just waiting 255 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: longer and feel well, then you could say that he 256 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: had a real process that I really looked over all this. 257 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: That would be the cynical way of looking at it. 258 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: The glasses have full way of looking at it. Would 259 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: be how Jim Donovan looked at it yesterday on the 260 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: show after you had left, he joined and and he 261 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: said he felt like they're almost has to be some 262 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: sort of settlement conversations taking place that that that would 263 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: lead him to believe that as well. So that would 264 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: be your I suppose that would be your best case 265 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: now at this point. Um, if we're to be believed 266 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: that the NFL all along has wanted it to be 267 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: an entire year and then an ability to reapply for 268 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: reinstatement or apply for reinstatement if you if you believe 269 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: that that was always their minimum requirement, than any sort 270 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: of seliment settlement would seem to come in it less 271 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: than that. But obviously Seawan is not negotiating now from 272 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: the position of relative power that he was before all 273 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: of this happened. Um, And maybe we all should have 274 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: known how this process is going to play out, and 275 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: maybe that would have been the wiser play. Knowing that 276 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: the NFL had final approval on they were they were 277 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: always going to let it be whatever they wanted it 278 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: to be. You know. It's interesting from totally totally I 279 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: read something that Amy Trask THEO had said about this, 280 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: and it actually in light of as we are because 281 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: it's affecting our player and our situation, bemoaning what's in 282 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: the c b A, and that the NFL p A 283 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: would allow the NFL to have this authority. And the 284 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: point she made was like, look, they made gains all 285 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: over the c b A, and this was a game 286 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: right that there would go to an independent person, and 287 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: that the only people that would be impacted by this 288 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: Right now, there's only one in the entire league, and 289 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: it so happens to be Cleveland Brown and Deshaun Watson. 290 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: But the number of people would be impacted by an 291 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: appeal that they felt necessary to go to the mat 292 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: to appeal a federal old judges ruling is going to 293 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: be so small that it really doesn't apply to of 294 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: the people in the nfl p A correct. I saw 295 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: her tweet that, and I didn't like it. I was like, 296 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: you know what, you're right. I don't like it, but 297 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: you're right. Yeah, And I you know, we've been pretty 298 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: candid about about this entire process, but I think one 299 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: thing that we've been pretty direct on is that I 300 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: always have to feel like, yeah, you gotta remind people 301 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: like we're talking about it because it's us. But this 302 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: very easily could have been the other three teams that 303 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: were in the final four. They would all be in 304 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: the same situation that the Browns are in, both in 305 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: terms of the contract they gave him and in terms 306 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: of the situation there in and if any of the 307 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: other thirteen he would have deemed willing to go down 308 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: this road for him that inquired about Watson, they would 309 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: all be in the same spot too. So this just 310 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: goes back to, you know, my really real belief that 311 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: there was a way to avoid all of this from 312 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: an NFL perspective before he was even traded, and then 313 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: once he was traded, you could have expedited all of 314 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: that that could have taken place in May. There's no 315 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: good reason that as we sit here on now what August, 316 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: that's from fifty days since Cechel Robinson first heard this, 317 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: that we still don't know what's gonna happen, whatever it 318 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: is it is, but it's been handled so poorly at 319 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 1: this point that it's it's become such a By the way, 320 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: shout out to Privas. He said, he's uh, he's in 321 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 1: the facility, just came out to listen to our merriment. 322 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that part wasn't so married. But all the 323 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: beginning was the beginning was a great time. Everything you 324 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: want there, um, we did. We we saw a couple 325 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: of things from an injury standpoint. We terminate the contract 326 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: of defensive tackle Sheldon Day, and that's a bummer to me. 327 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: You look at our room, right, you look at that 328 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: defensive tackle room. Guess who is the all time leader 329 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: in career games played and in sacks. It was Sheldon Day. Now, 330 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: he hasn't been able to be on the field because 331 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: of the back injury, but I know that Chris Kiff 332 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: and I talked to him prior to that game in Jacksonville. 333 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: They were hoping to get him back this week. And 334 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: he loves Sheldon Day. I mean he was with Sheldon 335 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: Day in San Francisco on the team shellon Day actually 336 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: started in the Super Bowl against the Chiefs. So that's 337 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: it's a surprise. I know, we've got to get down 338 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: to eighty five today. Um, I'm surprised. She she Sheldon go. 339 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: Maybe he had a setback with that injury and they 340 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: so they've terminated his contract. And then Elijah and Kanza 341 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: got wave today with at least with an injury settlement. Um, 342 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: and he was at one of the backup tackles in 343 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: our offensive line. We've got so many guys in there now. 344 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: Unfortunately we've lost in the carras although it has not 345 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: officially been placed on injured reserve yet, so maybe there's 346 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: a sliver of hope there. I that's not scores. That's 347 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: it hasn't procedurally happened yet. Uh. And then Dawson Deaton, 348 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: our seventh round pick, also a center um who was 349 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: two time second team All Big Twelve at Texas Tech, 350 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: went down yesterday with an A C L. I imagine 351 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: he'll be placed on her. That'll be one of those 352 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: spots as well to get us down to the five 353 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: we have to be down to today, all right, So 354 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: there's where you where you sit at that point as 355 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: you get down to eighty five. We'll have some more 356 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: takeaways from yesterday's practice. Coach to Fansky coming up in 357 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 1: about ten minutes from now. 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Two six to go to the 372 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: Bath Authority dot com for more for five bucks off. 373 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: And we have as it were, as it were, some 374 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: injury updates well, Thus the sliver of hope is gone. 375 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: Both Nick Harris and Dawson Deeton have been placed on 376 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: injured reserve today with their knee injuries. That puts the 377 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: Browns at the required eighty five. They must have been 378 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: down already due to a guy due too, because he 379 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: made two moves today, so it must have been at 380 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: eighty nine. Two moves today. Oh and Jam Grant and 381 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: we waved Derek Dillon yesterday as well. Um, so Brown's 382 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: at the eight five that they need to be at. Also, 383 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: Cade York has earned Maurice Bassett Award, giving to the 384 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: most outstanding rookie at training camp, voted on by local 385 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: media and I hope that wasn't a heated, voted meeting. 386 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: I hope they were able to stay civil. Stas get 387 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: right through that friendly What do you think? You know? 388 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: What are you eating over there? What's your snack tip today? 389 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: What's the snack? It helps up yourself? If you had 390 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: a red light, you'd know if you're on or not. 391 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: They're just hitting buttons. Yeah, pretty good meeting. Would you 392 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: had some sort of a pork chop? It looks like 393 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: did you get one of those little pork shop I 394 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: didn't do. I didn't go with the pork shot today. Yeah. 395 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: It's a nice little seer on it. Okay, oh nice nice. 396 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: By the way, Gibbe, what do you have to say 397 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: to h enough from the clown? Who gets that gets 398 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: us award of the day? He said, Gibbe, how does 399 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: the radio show of the Browns get thrown out of 400 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: Bronze training camp? The best part of Brown's Daily is 401 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: the show itself. Ye gets us, hashtag gets us. We 402 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: are gonna be the only game in town out there 403 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: on Thursdays? Oh my god, what do you do? Then 404 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: others get winted that they're gonna ask keep our exclusives 405 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: to ourselves. We just paratroop in. That's right. Listen, we 406 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: radios going to Philadelphia media. We're going to share the 407 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: room with the coaches press conference. Listen. We have got 408 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: to maintain secrecy. You gotta think of this like Normandy, 409 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: Like you didn't the Allied invasion. You weren't saying, hey, 410 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: we're coming in the middle of the night. You just 411 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: showed up. That's what we do here, right, Yes, that's 412 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, the Germans did that when they bomb Pearl Harbor, Like, 413 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: come on, come on, it wasn't overt, it wasn't over 414 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: when that happened. Yeah, we're almost to the point with 415 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: that bit though, that there's probably so few people who 416 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: have seen Animal House that they don't get the bit. Well, 417 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: there's two or three that haven't because I will get 418 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: a tweet here. So I just said, I said that 419 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: it's become it's become me too. But it's it's so 420 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: that movie is now so old that it's not even 421 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, there's probably a bunch of people who don't 422 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: ask him, Well, he's outside getting us ready for Kevin's alright, um, 423 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: all right, so there you have it, getting down to 424 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 1: what do you um from an offensive line standpoint, Now 425 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: that you have two injuries in a week, where are 426 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: we Who's next center, who's in the middle backing up? 427 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: Give me a little bit, let me know where we 428 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: are on all this pal So here is where we 429 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: are as it stands right now for the Cleveland Browns. 430 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: Ethan Poe Sick is now your starting center and he 431 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: was a former second round pick of the Seattle Seahawks 432 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: out of l s U. He started forty career games, 433 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: so he's a guy with experience and he will be 434 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: your starting center backing him up. I think there are 435 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 1: going to be a number of people who get an 436 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: opportunity as this camp unfolds, because remember, you're gonna need 437 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: somebody now who is probably you don't have another what 438 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: I would call a pure center on the roster, So 439 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: you are going to look and see, okay, can we 440 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: get one of these guys that we had as one 441 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: of our guards to do it or multiple ones? And 442 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: so here, let me give you some candidates, candidates and 443 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: I think are likely to make this football team who 444 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: can also play center and have done it for the 445 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: Browns at times. Candidate number one would be Blake Cant's 446 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: candidate number two. Michael Dunne, candidate number three, yelleda fro 447 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: Holt's name. It is a great name. As I'm watching 448 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: someone practice right now, it yelled, the fro Halt is 449 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: in fact getting some of the these reps as the 450 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: second team center. And so uh you got deaten with 451 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: the starters, and then yelled to froe Hold as I mentioned, 452 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: done Hanson. Then the other guy is brock Hoffman, who's 453 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: a rookie, an undrafted rookie out of Virginia Tech. My 454 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: guess is probably it's a long shot for him, but 455 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean he's listed on our website as a pure center, 456 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: So is that is that something that helps him? Perhaps? Well? 457 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: And both hands and done. We're thrown into the fire 458 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: in the biggest spots and we're ready to go. So 459 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: you still feel good. I mean, as much as your 460 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: heart breaks for Nick, you still feel good about where 461 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: you are in the middle of your offensive line, no doubt. 462 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: And the guy that, as I mentioned when I went 463 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: through those three, the other one is yelled the fro 464 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: Hold And so he's been getting a lot of the 465 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: work as that second center. Right now, All of these 466 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: guys have gotten some, but fro Hold has been getting 467 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: a little bit more form or fourth round pick of 468 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: the Patriots, been with us for a while, UH in 469 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: our program. They like him. So that's something to keep 470 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: an eye on. And we'll see today, you know, because 471 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: yesterday I went through practice and they had a very 472 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: long team period of twenty one play team period that 473 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: was exclusively Brissette and Watson. Brissette working with the starters, 474 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: Watson working with the second team. UH, and it was 475 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: yeld Defroholt who was that second team center with hands 476 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: and done as the guards on either side of him. Well, 477 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: there you go. So that's a little bit of how 478 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: that that will work out. It's really incredible the amount 479 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: of depth that we have on that offensive line now 480 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: that everybody's and even with the loss of two guys 481 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: in a week, you still feel very good about where 482 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: you are in the middle. You got help back on 483 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: the outside. You know, you got Hudson coming along, and 484 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: so you've got you feel pretty good about where you 485 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: are on the offensive line despite the injury. So there's 486 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: a ton of depth there. But you know, honestly, we 487 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't want anymore. UH. Coach Sefanski approaching the podium. Now 488 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: let's go down to the field where coach Defansko will 489 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: have his availability. Okay, last day of having fans out here, 490 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, the support has been unbelievable, which 491 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: really shouldn't be surprised from our fans, I think every 492 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: single day. Just having so many families out here, so 493 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: many kids out here, I think is been outstanding. You know, 494 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: Northeast Ohio, they love their brownies and we feel it 495 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: when we're out here. So I just want to say 496 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: special thank you to all the fans that came out today, 497 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, whatever it has been. UM, 498 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: definitely appreciate their support. And with that, I'll take any questions. 499 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: What's the extended next uh knee injury in terms of 500 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: what the d MR show. I'm not a doctor, so 501 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: I shouldn't even I'm not entirely sure. Can you talk 502 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: to him some injury and yeah, he's in there now. 503 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: I've spoken to him every day. It's it's a it's hard. 504 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: It's hard when you're hurt, it's no fun, it's terrible. 505 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: Everybody hates it. UM, but he's a positive person. He 506 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 1: will get through this, and uh, we'll help him get 507 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: through it. He used awesome yesterday. I know you love 508 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: getting roster questions, but next two light or office climates, 509 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: he's had something that you guys feel you get him. 510 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think we worked through all those 511 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: things Darrel again, see Dawson go down, really unfortunate how 512 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: it happened. Um feel for him as well. But with 513 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: with all those things, we gott just work through it. 514 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: Schwartz responded to his game, finding you on the practice 515 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: deal bit, what would you like to see happen? Positive 516 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: for him? Two two days of practice. Yeah, he's done 517 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: a great job Tony out here. He's uh, very accountable 518 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: to himself and his teammates, so he's excited to get 519 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: back to work. But I think the big thing for 520 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: any of us when when we you know, drop a pass, 521 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: make make a bad call, whatever it is, you gotta 522 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: move on. You got it. You can't dwell on those 523 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: type of things. I think he's done a nice job 524 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: moving on because, uh, that's part of being a receiver 525 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: is moving past those places. He wasn't able to play 526 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: in the Giants practice. He's a year ago. I mean, 527 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: did this be a great time for the light to 528 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: come on to him? The Eagles, I wouldn't characterize it 529 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: that way, Tony. I just think he needs to get 530 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: to work like all of his other teammates. He needs 531 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: to get out here and get some really good work in. 532 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: Like we've talked about since the beginning. I saw hardly 533 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: going he will know how about the eight times? Yeah, 534 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: the hand's gonna keep him out for a few days 535 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: and war get into team or are you gonna wait 536 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: until you see him individuals. Yeah, we'll see how it goes. 537 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: He responded great yesterday, so we'll see how it goes today. 538 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: I heard. Is that a first? Yeah? I think I 539 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: go back Mary Kay to the spring. He came in 540 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: and kicked really well in the spring. I think he 541 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: works hard at his craft. Uh. And and that's really 542 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: the big part for me with all these rookies. But 543 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, Kate in particulars is working hard every single 544 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: day and kick where he's working on his body or 545 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: he's watching tape and those type of things. And I 546 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: just understand that all these rookies, while they may flash 547 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: here and earn that distinction, uh, they got to continue 548 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: to work. It makes sometimes it takes a while through 549 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: a new cooker doing still confidence in his coach it 550 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: seems like he's working at it with you. You need 551 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: to see regular season games before you can so you 552 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: have ultimate confidence. And well, I think to your point, Tony, 553 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: I think all of our players have to have my trust. 554 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: They have to trust me. I have to trust them. Uh. 555 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: So they earned that on the practice field, they earned 556 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: that in the games. But that's something that that really 557 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: is is continual throughout the season. Spoke with today, just 558 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: from your perspective, where have you seen growth in his game? 559 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: And his size is something that you can't teach, but 560 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 1: what growth have you seen from him? And you know 561 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: what's the next Stamford level for his scheme? Yeah, I 562 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: mean physical growth. I think since his rookie year, I 563 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: think he's put on a lot of good weight, He's 564 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: got stronger. Um has always had a very very good 565 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: understanding of this scheme and what how to get open 566 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: and those type of things. So I'm looking forward to 567 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: him having more opportunities this season. You can always tell 568 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: when quarterbacks like throwing to a guy that that means something. 569 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: The quarterbacks like throwing to Harrison, uh And that goes 570 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: for a lot of guys, but in particular eighty eight 571 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: there they're comfortable thrown to him, he's Nick super No, 572 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: you know if it's t I don't. I don't know, 573 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: Devin really give you a little off stuff join cracks, 574 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: like potentially playing DeShawn Is that a tough decision when 575 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: there's some starters maybe on there and some not or 576 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: it's still too far off? I'd say too, just too 577 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: far off. He's not back yet. No, yeah, I'll deal 578 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: with it as you can imagine, Mary kay deal with 579 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: anything with our players day to day. But he'll be 580 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: back when he's back. At this point, the team, what 581 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: are you happy with and what you are areas still 582 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: need most? I don't know how many coaches are happy 583 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: in training camp. I would just I think we have 584 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: we're through installation, meaning we have put in a lot 585 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: of our core plays. UH. Now's the time where as 586 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: you get into the preseason, you practice first of the Eagles. 587 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: Now's the time where you hope that the scheme UH 588 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: is mastered by the players and then that the skill, 589 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: the fundamentals, the techniques continue to get better. Because I 590 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: know it's cliche, I know it's coach speak, but you 591 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: show up on that first game and typically the teams 592 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: that is playing with better technique has a good chance 593 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: to win, particularly in the trenches. So we're looking for 594 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: our skills to continue to develop. Structure of the joint 595 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: practice to the seas very similar. How much we're talking 596 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: about how much doing Yeah, well, you know, I haven't 597 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: talked to a team about that just yet, Scott. Uh, listen, 598 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: we did it last year. Um, there's ways to practice 599 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: real hard and compete and not waste time. Last year 600 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: it seemed joint practices is where Guigness just took hold 601 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: of that job. Is So is there an opportunity greater 602 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: emphasis on those two days where a guy can catapultic 603 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: way and secure something based on those two games? Yeah, good, 604 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: that's a good question. I think they're There are two 605 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: really solid work days, so there's gonna be lots of volume. 606 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: There an opportunity for guys to you know, take that leap, 607 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: so to speak. Um, so, yeah, I think there's a 608 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: chance of that. It's it's and then it's always you know, 609 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: our our offense has seen our defense for three weeks 610 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: and has seen certain coverages, certain pressures, etcetera. On the 611 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: flip side, our defense has seen a lot of the 612 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: same players over and over and over again. So it 613 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: does give you an opportunity to run you plays versus 614 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: another scheme that maybe doesn't know that it's coming. So 615 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: you get to see the guys maybe be in position 616 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: to succeed a little bit more so when the defense 617 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: and the offense. I've gotten to know each other so well, 618 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: your memory and your relationship with the series. Uh yeah, 619 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: I know Nick, just over the years, Uh was Nick? 620 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: Was you know a wide receiver coach, a quarterback coach? 621 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: Just over the years, um, hanging out at the combine 622 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: those type of things. But I don't have a past 623 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,959 Speaker 1: with Nick getting update on greg or timeline. When Gregor 624 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: neble to get back, I don't have an update. Are 625 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: you good? Okay, thanks guys. Well, there's one big thing 626 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: in there that is, you know, starting to stack a 627 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: little bit and and we will get into that coming 628 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: up next because there's you know, there's a lot of 629 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: questions in there. But but the one concerning Miles as 630 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: you're talking about a couple of practices in a row 631 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: and no end in sight, uh, deserves a little bit 632 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: of a conversation. 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Um, he's excused from the team for personal reasons. 651 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes you take those things at face value, and maybe 652 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: that's the case here. Who knows, Um, but still three 653 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: days without Miles is no worth. He's one of the 654 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: tenderest players in the league. It is no worthy. I 655 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: don't think it's caused for alarm. I think it is 656 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: you know when sometimes when you say personal matters, you 657 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: want to get that personal for the individual. And and 658 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: I expect Myles Garrett will be back as soon as 659 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: he can be, and whatever that is, we'll welcome him back. 660 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: It'll be it'll be great. I hope he's able to 661 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: come back for the work against the Eagles. I think 662 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: that'd be great work against offensive tackles that are not 663 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: wearing you know, brown and orange. I don't know how 664 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 1: much we will see him in the preseason, if at all. 665 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I don't think. I don't I don't need 666 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: to see him. I know it. He's quite capable of 667 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: So it would be nice to be able to see 668 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: him get some work against the Eagles. So hopefully whatever 669 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: it is resolves itself by then in a positive way. 670 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: Four miles and he is comfortable returning to the Browns. 671 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 1: Do you think, um, now that we're in our second 672 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: year of the seventeen game season, do you think that 673 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: that first preseason game is the one, you're most likely 674 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: to see starters or some starters, and that it dissipates 675 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: going forward. I think you will in the third I think, 676 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: what what you're going to see now, you think it'll go, 677 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: It'll come all the way back to the third then 678 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: because you have the extended because you have two weeks off. 679 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: So I think that's where you'll get a little bit. 680 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: I think any time, and so far this has been 681 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: the case any time that there's been a joint practice 682 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 1: leading to a preseason game, you'll see nobody, nothing and Sunday, 683 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: and I kind of think that might be the wave 684 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: of the future, is that you try, and some teams 685 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: have done will do to series of joint practices, and 686 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: I think that that's kind of where it's gonna go. 687 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: You'll get two series of joint practices that you'll play 688 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: nobody in those games, and then maybe in the last 689 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: game you will then have you know, kind of your 690 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: dress rehearsal, because you want to go through your operation 691 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: of coming out of the tunnel, doing you know, all 692 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: the things that you would do in a normal game 693 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: and getting that feel and then getting out of there. 694 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: I just think the preseason in general is one of 695 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: those very very difficult things, you know, in terms of 696 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: how do you what is the best way to go 697 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: about it? And I actually had a great opportunity yesterday 698 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: spent some time with Ozzy K. Newsom, general manager, very 699 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: successful one of the Baltimore Ravens, unfortunately too successful in 700 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: that role, was a great title for the Browns as well, 701 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: and we were talking about just that and he said, 702 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 1: there is no right answer. He goes, you know, look 703 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: at us last year. You know j K. Dobbins. They 704 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 1: wanted to get him one more play at running back, 705 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: ends up taking a pass out into the flat and 706 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: tears his a c L in a game, but wasn't meaningful. 707 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 1: But do guys get hurt early in the seasons that 708 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: you know they were for example, they didn't get any physicality, 709 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: didn't get any contact. Uh you know one thing that 710 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: I was heard, Oh, you know our camp isn't physical enough. 711 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: Our guy. You know, we were bottom half the league 712 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: and missed tackles in week one, so are tackling which 713 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: would be the area you think it would show up 714 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: the most. We had seven in the game. The Lions, 715 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: by the way, who have had an insane camp, they 716 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: had five. So yeah, they're a little bit better. The Eagles, 717 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: who we play this week, had eight. I think it's 718 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: the season just in general, is a difficult thing to 719 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: figure out. It's the most subjective of processes. You have 720 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: to do. It's for your team and for you as 721 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: a personality. If you're the coach, that's what it is. 722 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: McVey doesn't want to see any of these guys, well, 723 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: they won the super Bowl, right, but that that's so 724 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: that works for him. If you're Dan Campbell, this works 725 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: for you. Now he's gonna have to win at some 726 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: point or then guys are gonna start saying, well, wait, 727 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Because you can be that guy. 728 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: You can be you can you can take that approach, 729 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: but you gotta win with it too. Parcels was that way, 730 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: Belichick's that way. But they win. So you'll do it 731 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: because this is oh, this works right, So you have 732 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: It's like in anything in life, like the great advice 733 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: to Stevie, be honest to yourself. That's right, you do 734 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 1: you whatever feels right to you. That's what you do, 735 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: and it works. There's no there's no path for this. 736 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: It's not the NFL used to be. In football in general, was. 737 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: It was a very group think sport. There was one way. 738 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: This is how we're gonna play the run. This is 739 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: how we're gonna play the past. This way, we're gonna 740 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: throw it this way. Well, this is training camp. This 741 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: is what we do. We work everybody's you know, to 742 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: the bone, across the board, put them through hell, hit, hit, hit, 743 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: all of this stuff, all the stuff that we all did, 744 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: even his youth playing football. Heck, it still happens in 745 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: now in youth football. All of those things that were 746 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: just like, well, this is what we did. It's a 747 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: pancake breakfast, it's one the month, that's what we do. 748 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: So that's but now people like, wait, let's rethink this 749 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: a little bit. Is this the smartest way to do it? Right? 750 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: And so everybody has their own process, and that's exactly right. 751 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: And I think as long as you are true to 752 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: your process and you have a good thought out rationale 753 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: for your process that people buy into, that's all that matters. 754 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: Does your team buy into your process? And if the 755 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: answer to that is yes, then there are probably a 756 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: lot of different processes that can lead to the ultimate 757 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: outcome with is you know, winning Super Bowl and and 758 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: by the way other than avoiding injury, or other than 759 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: getting some good reps. I don't think that there's anybody 760 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: who would say what they did in the preseason has 761 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: anything to do with how they're performing in Week fourteen 762 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: or fifteen. Now, there could be people say, well, it 763 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 1: got affected week one. We've tried everything here. We haven't 764 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: won in week one in quite some time. The best 765 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: we've done while i've been here is a tie, if 766 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. Gibbe tied against the Steelers here Denzel's 767 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: first game. Yeah, show, by the way, signed with the 768 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: Denver bronc The Denver Broncos signed with them. Yeah. So look, 769 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: it's about the ultimate outcomes, and people are going to 770 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: sign a lot of different things to what those ultimate 771 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,479 Speaker 1: outcomes are. I think you and I will we thrive 772 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: where idea men, we thrive on enthusiasm. We're also I 773 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: think it's hard to not be risk adverse in a 774 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: meaningless game. Absolutely. I mean, if you are a t 775 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: like let's let's use Pittsburgh for an example. They've got 776 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks that they're trying to sort out. It feels 777 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: like it's it feels like it's trabisky. But I mean 778 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,919 Speaker 1: Pickett had a nice start and despite and they even 779 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: start to camp like they have they really have to 780 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: sort that through and they want to see the snaps 781 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: with that, you know, and this anytime you have that scenario, 782 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: or like if you have rookie quarterbacks or second year quarterbacks, 783 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: you want reps guys who have coming off of injury. 784 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: What does it look like If you're Carolina, it seems 785 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: like Bike's gonna win that job. It seems like he's 786 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: running away with it now. But if if you're Carolina 787 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 1: and you're trying to see him versus Donald Corral, seeing 788 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: where he is underneath it, there's big value for that 789 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: for us the way we are now and is currently constructed, 790 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: and we were like this, we've been this like this 791 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, like kind of are what 792 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 1: we are like? You can't just want to bubble wrap 793 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: and get there and play. I think you're exactly right, 794 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: but don't. Where is the happy medium with getting enough 795 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: reps so that you feel like you're coming out of 796 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: the gates ready to play four full quarters. Here's what 797 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: I would say is and you're gonna say and and 798 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: good job by you, by the way to say the 799 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: four full quarters part of it. But I mean we 800 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: came out of the gates perfectly fine against the Kansas 801 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: City Chiefs, who were considered one of the elites. In fact, 802 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: we were stomping them, and that's why he'll say four 803 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: full quarters. But it was kind of a fluke thing 804 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: that really turned that game in terms of the Scots 805 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,439 Speaker 1: Amber dropping the snap on a punt. That's a that's 806 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: a fluke thing that Chubbed rarely fumbles. He fumbled. Yeah, 807 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 1: they got a broken plate touchdown. That's what they do 808 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 1: with Tyreek Hill and Mahomes and you know, make throws 809 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 1: an interception to end the game. But we were ready 810 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: to play in every respect. We're ready to play. Now, 811 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: you could make the case that our defense, with so 812 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: many new pieces, you know, in the communication that needed 813 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: to happen on the back end, was not necessarily ready 814 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: to play, and we had so many injuries early in 815 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: the year at the cornerback position, So you could say that, 816 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: I think that's a valid thing that you could say, Well, 817 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: maybe if they had played more sure this year, you 818 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 1: don't have those communication issues on the back end. You're 819 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: returning four your top five corners and you've added m 820 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: j Emerson has already made quite a splash, returning your 821 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: top three safeties from a year ago. And you've got 822 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: some guys who are making plays for you as well, 823 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 1: and not just you know, Rich Account coming back, but 824 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:19,280 Speaker 1: also in looking at Brett Hunley cut by the Ravens, 825 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: by the way, for a second, I thought that was 826 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: the other guy, But that's Tyler Huntley who played so 827 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: well for them last year. Brett Hunley was the one 828 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: out of UCL drafted relatively high. Yeah, anyway, was the 829 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: one that angered that started the whole Aaron Rodgers. No, No, 830 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 1: that's Jordan Love. Um. So this is a totally different 831 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: team to your point, in terms of same system, same coaches, 832 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: same guys they are. I think they will be ready 833 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: to play early in the season, and so that is 834 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: not something that I have a great deal of concern about. 835 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: I'm more concerned about being healthy. And we've already had 836 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: We've already lost our starting center, We've already lost how 837 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: this happened in practice, and you can't control those things, 838 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: but we lost our return man. So we lost the 839 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: guy that we expected to be. You know, the quarterbacks 840 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: started line two starters so far out of your top 841 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: we'll call it twenty five right, eleven on OFFENSEI love, 842 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: and on D and three specialists. We've lost two out 843 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: of our five. The other thing that that I you 844 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: know for us that's unique was and I feel better 845 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: about it now. But you know, you've got to get 846 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette ready to play that style of ball, like 847 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: that's him. What is this? This offense is different with 848 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: him than Deshaun. You know, Deshaun was doing most of 849 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: the one reps up until this weekend, and now you've 850 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: got this time and Jacoby is a pro. But now 851 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: he's got to get going, Like now it's his time 852 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: to get going a little bit and and start to 853 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: prepare for what minimum is going to be six and 854 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: what is more likely going to be much much longer 855 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 1: than that. By the way, as you were describing the 856 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 1: game against Kansas City to open the season, if you 857 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: would have told me that that was eight years ago, 858 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: I would have said, yeah, that seems like about eight 859 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: years ago. And that was last year. That was last year. 860 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: Life comes at your fast, coach, really really quickly, very 861 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 1: very quickly. El can serious lawyer Serious injuries called one 862 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: hundred okhio for a free case for you, Alcinous, the 863 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: proud partner of your Cleveland Browns. We will go around 864 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: the league coming up next, get you set for this 865 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: final training camp practice as well. You listen to Clean 866 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: Brown's Daily on ESPN Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily on ESPN 867 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: Cleveland Rupky Waste Recyclic family owned an opera where they 868 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: join them as a customers an employ you become part 869 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: of the family. Visit rumkey dot com to learn more. 870 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: Um giving, we will we want to do the around 871 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,359 Speaker 1: the league and we didn't even discuss this. We had 872 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: so much going on in the break. We'll do around 873 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: the league at T twenty. Is that what you're thinking, Yeah, 874 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: and then we'll get you set for the final training 875 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: Is that where you're at an until he's got other 876 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 1: obligations here? I am maybe? Well, I mean you're here 877 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: for another minutes. What I like to do in these 878 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: scenarios where there's like hardouts for him, is I like 879 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: to blow through the heart out. You know what's funny 880 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,359 Speaker 1: about this is the first of all the last time 881 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 1: that when he there, he was like, it's time for 882 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 1: you to go. What did I say, I'm good, I'm staying, 883 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm finishing CBD. That's right, And what did he say? 884 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: He wants you to go and so now he's playing 885 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: it the other way. Classic gibbon. That's classic gibbing. What 886 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: the first time? What? I'm helping out our good friends 887 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: on the video side of things. They are my friends. 888 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: They are our friends. They're very good people, They're very 889 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 1: good at what they do. I'm trying to give them 890 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: as much assistance as possible. Today we've been bumped to 891 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: three different locations and I don't care about anybody. So 892 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: what's amazing, though, is yet you somehow I think I'm 893 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: in the right on whatever the rationale for your behavior is, 894 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: you're still opposed to me. That's the hard part for 895 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: me to get my head or at it's still an 896 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: anti Nathan It maybe how long have we been working together. 897 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: There may be a multitude of reasons, a plethora, a 898 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,919 Speaker 1: veritable plethora of reasons, but the outcomes yet it's all 899 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 1: the same and anti CBD totally, yes, although I feel 900 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: like it is. Hold on, can I point out some 901 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: of this A first team videos? Here's what's crazy. I 902 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 1: am not. I've asked you to do one a this 903 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: training camp, and I thank you yeah, what, he doesn't 904 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: like it anymore. He doesn't like it solo anymore. But 905 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 1: when was the Ibbs boys, he like he was all 906 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: B p A. But now that Gribbs is moved on 907 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 1: to bigger things from now, he doesn't even care about 908 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,439 Speaker 1: the B p A. So was it really just your 909 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 1: love of Gribbs that fueled you? So basically it was 910 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 1: something that you were so excited Ribs and then us 911 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 1: way up and then now that it's like it's like 912 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: a commander Heatherly called no Joy called no Joy called 913 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: no Joy. So you know, the A your B and 914 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:32,839 Speaker 1: so that's right. Occasionally, how long do you go? It's 915 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: literally anywhere between five minutes and fifteen? I played the 916 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,479 Speaker 1: cuts of the day top sound bites of the day. Nice. 917 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: Nice because it's stuff that we don't get to. What 918 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: about what about I give you a little recap. I 919 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 1: try to do my best Zakura two minute drill beautiful? 920 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: What about I have not hit boys? There's a P 921 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: and B p A just saying there is and an 922 00:49:53,680 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: A anthony like I'm gonna go Poissel. Yeah, like well, 923 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,919 Speaker 1: I like like I like a poison. Really really, that's 924 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,359 Speaker 1: something that's very good Hey, what you were down in Canton? Right, 925 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: you were down there for an event? Um, what did 926 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: you make of the place? Is that the first time 927 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: you've been since what a year ago? Yeah? They come 928 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: a long way. Is they got a lot going on 929 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: down there? It was cool. Uh. And I was in 930 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: a like a in the conference center, which I had 931 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,479 Speaker 1: never been in before. And is that in the main hall. 932 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 1: So if you come in the main doors and you 933 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: go to your right and go through those exhibits to 934 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: your right even more right, and then you get over there, 935 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,439 Speaker 1: and it's that building that sticks out to the right 936 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 1: of the main conference So if you go directly, you're 937 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: right there. You go through like the team shop. Yes, 938 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 1: you gotta go, you gotta go upstairs right up. No, no no, no, no, 939 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 1: if the team shop would be the team shop would 940 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: have been if I So if you come in, you 941 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,280 Speaker 1: go right, you go down and there's like the Sunday 942 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 1: Night Football exhibit. There are some guys who just got 943 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 1: Black Football Hall of Fame is there. So you walk 944 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: through that room and through and then that's where you 945 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: get to, uh, to this area. And it was cool. 946 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: We sat in like a little green room or whatever 947 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: that had this beautiful painting of Marcus Allen, which, oh boy, 948 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: you know it's you know, it's business to end in 949 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: an eye. I don't know, that's custom. That's a custom tape. 950 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: It's a custom tap. It's too good. That's back to 951 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: back custom days there were luminaries are around, they would 952 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: definitely be like you open that jacket up, there's going 953 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: to be something that makes sense on the inside. I 954 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 1: promise you that's not a plane. There's something in the 955 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 1: inside that makes sense. There's no doubt. And a fantastic 956 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 1: shoe game out of him is is typically customary for him, 957 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: As you were saying, I don't even remember. Oh, don't 958 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: look at him again. A plus on the world plus 959 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: be on the Stevie. But that's okay, that's all right. 960 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: Give's love. Um. One of these years we're gonna hijack 961 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: the Stevie experience and we're just gonna get somebody who 962 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: entertains us just as Anti give. Yeah, like the Woes 963 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,399 Speaker 1: the Woes says says right now, he goes GiB would 964 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,760 Speaker 1: make you stay if it was BP A bucket totally 965 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: totally is in Woes bombs me. Oh please, we're so formidable, 966 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 1: so formidable. The I've fired interns on their first You 967 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: know what, I can't wait for? At what age does 968 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 1: Boots he become intern already? It feels like he's on 969 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,399 Speaker 1: the cusp. I don't know why he's not here right now. 970 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: I feel like he's gonna he's gonna intern with Swag. No. 971 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 1: I think he interns with us, and I think that 972 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 1: we initially start him off in a tuxedo and he's 973 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: he can like bring waters around on a tray. He'd 974 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 1: be unreal. He does the interviews, Boots the butler, he does, yeah, interviews. 975 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: He does the tough interviews, like if after a tough 976 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,720 Speaker 1: game somebody fumbled, Hey man, what was up with that fumble? 977 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: Just over here? Trying to exactly that guy? That guy 978 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: right here, and he can bring the dog. But why 979 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 1: is he okay, hold on, why is he posing for 980 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 1: a picture in a suit and tie briar? Of course? 981 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: Of course look at the background. Of course that's a 982 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 1: green briar, and and that was and who is the 983 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 1: stuffed dog? Uh? That's Roger Roger Sterling is the dog 984 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 1: that he wont Sterling? Yeah, of course it is, of course, 985 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't it be Uh? Yeah, Yeah, he had a 986 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: great moment. He had a great moment at dinner. I 987 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 1: almost captured it. This was you know, like in the 988 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: main thing where you gotta have the big, big, big production. Okay, 989 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: so this was him at dinner. Plus look at his 990 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 1: right hand though it was it was in the top 991 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 1: of his pants. You could see it moving like I 992 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 1: almost caught it. Unbelievable, candid. So just what did do 993 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: that night? I don't know. I mean there's you know, 994 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: probably they probably they loved him, they wrecked they saw 995 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: in him, probably many of the greats who have locked 996 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: those hallowed halls at the Green Brier. Yeah, yeah, they 997 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: were pre incited about it. I think they're Ackys in 998 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: a blue blazer. Come some go south while these people 999 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 1: are here. He goes in the bunk or the rest 1000 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: of the family whatever. All three of them, they really shined. 1001 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 1: They shined in those moments. Yeah, because there were some 1002 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: that tried to buck tradition there and like they weren't 1003 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 1: having it. They not have it. Like you tried showing 1004 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 1: up for a dinner there without the tie. There's a 1005 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 1: guy who did, who had a coat but not a tie, 1006 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,800 Speaker 1: and they said, I'm sorry, we can't. We can't see you. 1007 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 1: And he's like, what are you talking about? Means I'm 1008 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 1: in a coat? What are you kidding? No, No, that's 1009 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 1: the rules. Kindly, you can go to the Jerry West Steakhouse, 1010 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,400 Speaker 1: but you can't come here. Well, I feel like the 1011 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: girl with Testy's waters. I'll tell you what I would 1012 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 1: have liked to have done. Like that, they would have known. 1013 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 1: I would have liked to have done an ascot and 1014 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,839 Speaker 1: seen how that would have gone over. Like that would 1015 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:50,439 Speaker 1: have been, okay, test them out. I think the ascot, Yeah, 1016 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: bring it right out. I have no problem wearing suits 1017 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 1: and ties. I know you don't, but you love to 1018 00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: test authority well. And I am not incorrect in this. 1019 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that you are incorrecting on previous flights 1020 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 1: that may or may not have had conversations. Let me 1021 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: ask you a question. When you were in Canton, did 1022 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 1: you see the the Joe Montana, Mitchell and Ness collection 1023 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 1: they had their for sale? Did you have to go 1024 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,319 Speaker 1: through the team shop? I did not because I wasn't. 1025 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: I was going to be pretty strong. I have a 1026 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,959 Speaker 1: lot of that stuff. I'm so I didn't, but I don't. 1027 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: You're not that you needed anymore. You've got a full slate. 1028 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 1: I get it, but they actually have they have a 1029 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: really cool like throwback. My jersey wearing days are behind me. 1030 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I have a numble. 1031 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: It's quite a collection I've got. By the way, what 1032 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,879 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, is the room where this where 1033 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: this event happened in the convention, is where they have 1034 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,240 Speaker 1: a dinner for just inductees and only you can only 1035 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 1: come into the room. Obviously, I'm sure there are servers, 1036 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 1: but you are only allowed in the room if you 1037 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 1: are a member of the Hall of Fame. You've been 1038 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: inducted in the Hall of Fame. Gold jackets only love it. 1039 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 1: I think that's aesome. It's such a cool club. What 1040 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 1: do you make about Dion saying it's it's so we 1041 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,920 Speaker 1: talked about this. You talked about it yesterday. Okay, somebody 1042 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 1: asked a question and I and you know, Ozzi gave 1043 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: a great answer. And you know, there's probably been you know, 1044 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 1: however many you know, thousands and thousands of people play 1045 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and there's like three something that are 1046 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. So it's still a very 1047 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 1: small percentage and he says, look, nobody would be in 1048 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 1: there without their teammates um and gave some nice things. 1049 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 1: Cribs was like, I'm still trying to get in and 1050 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak it into existence, and so that he 1051 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 1: was going to be in. And you know what I 1052 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: said is what Dion is really saying is there needs 1053 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,320 Speaker 1: to be a special designation for if like the space 1054 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: jam scenario happened and we had to send our best 1055 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,800 Speaker 1: eleven on offense, are best eleven on defense to defend 1056 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 1: like humanity. He's on that team, like of course he is. 1057 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: He's one of the starting corners, and I think he 1058 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 1: wants some recognition for Yes, we're all Hall of famers, 1059 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: but I am the best, and tell somebody ends up 1060 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 1: being better than me. G's what he wants. So do 1061 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,359 Speaker 1: you know how this came about? How these numbers got 1062 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 1: kind of crazy the last few years because they had 1063 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 1: the double class. Well in the Centennial, Peter King wrote 1064 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 1: about a football Morning in America this week. So Rick 1065 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 1: got Rick Gosselin, I believe his name. He's a long 1066 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 1: time writer in Dallas. He proposed, a long time Hall 1067 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,440 Speaker 1: of Fame writer. He proposed, look, we've got these guys 1068 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 1: from the first forty years of this league that are 1069 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: not represented. We got to get some of these guys in. 1070 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 1: We need to get fifteen of these guys in their 1071 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 1: posthumous but we gotta get him in, right. So what 1072 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: happened is of that centennial class, only three were those guys. 1073 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: So this was the Jimmy Johnson, Bill Kawer. The Hall 1074 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,959 Speaker 1: are really good, quite frankly, the Hall of really good. 1075 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, I don't know, but hall are really good. 1076 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 1: And so what happened is is that Veterans Committee started 1077 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 1: letting these guys in with this this this his rule 1078 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 1: is not being used the way that he wanted it 1079 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 1: to be used, which was for you know, a forgotten 1080 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 1: era of the NFL greats who paid away, who are 1081 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: not recognized because there's no one to advocate for them. Yeah. Well, 1082 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 1: what's happening is is they're getting it's getting easier to 1083 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 1: get in because of it, you know that. And so 1084 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: I think even this year's class, you look at it 1085 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: and you go, yeah, I don't know, I don't know that. 1086 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: That's like like Bryant Young very good, but necessarily Sam Mills, 1087 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 1: like they're all really good and when you talk about 1088 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: this out loud, you come across like, go to hell, 1089 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 1: those guys were great, but it's the Hall of Fame. 1090 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,439 Speaker 1: And so that's to me, like, I see his point. 1091 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 1: I think he's here's what I think, and he's on 1092 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 1: it a little bit. You need to at least you 1093 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 1: don't need to be one of those top twenty two. 1094 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 1: You don't even need to be on the greatest fifty 1095 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: three man roster of all time to be the Hall 1096 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: of Famer, because that would be so limiting. But you 1097 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 1: need to be in the discussion that at one point 1098 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: in your career it is reasonable to think that you 1099 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 1: would have been okay. So, for example, Patrick Willis would 1100 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 1: be in that discussion. Would we send him out there 1101 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: as our mic lineback or is he our second string 1102 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 1: mike linebacker or third string on the ultimate three that 1103 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 1: you can absolute you make the case that Patrick Willis 1104 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 1: for a while was the best middle linebacker on the 1105 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: planet Earth. So let's just extrapolate that a second. So 1106 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 1: I like, where your head's at for a whatever we 1107 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: want to say, the minimum number is, is it five 1108 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 1: to six years? For a five or six year period, 1109 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 1: you have to be the best at your position or 1110 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 1: in a conversation of being the best at your position 1111 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: for at least a five to six year period to 1112 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 1: be and I think if you do that, then then 1113 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 1: you got it. But then because I think that's how 1114 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna get like troll Davis's run was not five 1115 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 1: or six, wasn't. Well, that's great. Super Bowl bump though, right, 1116 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 1: like if you win a super Bowl then you get 1117 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 1: the bump. But he hurt. Fine, I'm in there. I'm 1118 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 1: in there Sunday with the boys, and I'm going around. 1119 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm going really like he was. He was benched with 1120 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 1: the Rams for Bulger now in retrospect, made a bad 1121 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: decision that then he goes the Giants, ends bad, was bad, 1122 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 1: and then they drafted ELII, right, so he's sent again. 1123 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 1: And then he has a resurrection with Arizona where he's 1124 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 1: good and they all the you know they did he 1125 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 1: quarterback them all the way to the Super Bowl games? Yes, 1126 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 1: And then they brought in Carson Palmer and he's a 1127 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 1: great dude, great dude. He won the m v P, 1128 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 1: he won a super Bowl. It's big heavy stuff, but 1129 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 1: I don't but he's never in the Ultimate Game and 1130 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 1: he's never even in the conversation conversation he was an 1131 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 1: m v P and the greatest show on turf and 1132 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 1: all of that, he still wasn't won an m VP 1133 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 1: two though, Like of course, just be that agree with you, 1134 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 1: like you can have a one off, you know. Here's 1135 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 1: my point is that in this year's class, Sam Mills 1136 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: is never going to be in that game, right, Young's 1137 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 1: never gonna be in that game. But Sell, he's never 1138 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: even gonna be in that game because you got Moonyo's 1139 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 1: and you got the half you know, when you could 1140 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 1: go in. Willie wrote, Orlando Pace forever, they tend all pros. Yeah, 1141 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 1: So that to me should be more of the criteria, 1142 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 1: Like at a point in time, Calvin Johnson fits that 1143 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 1: Bill would Calvin Johnson b could be in the game 1144 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 1: as a starting wide receiver. Absolutely, but that to me 1145 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 1: needs to be more the criteria. And that's why like 1146 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 1: next year, the only two people that really I feel like, 1147 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, should get in. Actually I'll tell you who 1148 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 1: shoulde who should get in, Like if you were doing 1149 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:15,919 Speaker 1: the ultimate five, given people's eligibilities next year, Rivas half half, 1150 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 1: both of those guys can make that case that you'd 1151 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 1: want to like Devin Hester needs to be in Hall 1152 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 1: of Fame because hes a great trainers everyone and he's 1153 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,560 Speaker 1: the greatest at something, and he would be in that game, 1154 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 1: in that game against the crazy Aliens. So you've got 1155 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 1: those three. I still think Patrick Willis deserves to be in. 1156 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: So that's four, and then maybe that's all you have there. 1157 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 1: Andre Johnson is also right there. Andre Johnson for a while, 1158 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 1: would have been considered the receiver that you'd put in 1159 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 1: that game, not Torio Holts got tremendous statistical accumulation, but 1160 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 1: you're never saying, Okay, in the top ten receivers of 1161 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 1: all time, like is Tory hold in that conversation And 1162 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 1: you don't have to be there permanently. That's an ever 1163 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 1: evolving list, but at some point it needs to be 1164 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 1: that you would be in that type thought of and 1165 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 1: that's where it needs to be and not like, really, listen, 1166 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 1: I was a forty and Irons fan. Brian Young was good. 1167 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 1: But if you said to me, okay, who is the 1168 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 1: most dominant Niners lineman of you know, your life, that 1169 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,600 Speaker 1: I could would come to my defensive lineman. He wouldn't 1170 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 1: the first person I would think it was Charles Haley, 1171 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 1: and he split his career with the Niners and the 1172 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys and all you know, won the six Super Bowls. 1173 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 1: Didn't he has the record for that, But Brian was 1174 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 1: really good. I just think you have I think I 1175 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: think that this what happened with with Goslin and then 1176 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 1: these you know, this this some of these veteran guys 1177 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 1: who get in. It does kind of make it seem 1178 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 1: like and like, who are you to have joy away 1179 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 1: from anybody? But I do understand what Dion's saying here. 1180 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 1: I get it like it used to be, like you know, 1181 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 1: there was a feeling of it being very, very difficult. 1182 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 1: So Brian Young was a first team All Pro once, 1183 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 1: he was a second team All Pro three times. He 1184 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 1: only made four Pro Bowls. And we got Patrick Willison's 1185 01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 1: the out of seven seasons or five out of seven 1186 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 1: seasons and was a Pro bowl Er every single year 1187 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 1: is in the league, Petrick Wills. That just doesn't feel 1188 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,000 Speaker 1: like the Hall of Fame to me. It's not. So 1189 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 1: here's what I think Dion is saying, and here's what 1190 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 1: I would advocate for. You've got your Hall of busts, 1191 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 1: but it's just like top gun. This is the elite, 1192 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: the best of the best, that's getting the top gun. 1193 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 1: But there's only so many names that are on the 1194 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 1: plaques for being truly the best of best. And so 1195 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 1: I think what he's saying is, let's have everybody's in 1196 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. You were truly great, right, We're 1197 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 1: really good in some of these cases. But then there's 1198 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 1: like the top wing that is here is the best ever, 1199 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 1: and you can do two or three at each position. 1200 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 1: It can be voted on and it can change every year. 1201 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 1: But they have their own wing. Here are the best 1202 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 1: football players ever at their respective positions. And so you 1203 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 1: would have, you know, and it'd be some fun debates, right, 1204 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 1: you'd have Peyton Manning, you'd have Joe Montana at the 1205 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:55,439 Speaker 1: quarterback position, auto well Rady not there yet or yeah, 1206 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 1: like what what is that? But they think you're onto 1207 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 1: something there because here the truly greatest to ever do it, 1208 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,280 Speaker 1: period the end. Yeah, because when you're walking in that 1209 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 1: Hall of bus and it's awesome and it's humbling to 1210 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 1: walk in there. I walk in there and I'm like, well, 1211 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 1: for example, like there was an official who went in 1212 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,920 Speaker 1: this year, and I'm sure he was great, but he's 1213 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 1: like in the middle of the of the group, and 1214 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the five person group and I'm going, 1215 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure any of these guys are that. Like, 1216 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure any of these guys are in the 1217 01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 1: same place as random Moss, you know, like and he's 1218 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 1: a couple of years previous. Like, but that's why they 1219 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,240 Speaker 1: needs to be a difference one upper wing where you 1220 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,040 Speaker 1: go up and you go, okay, this is and I 1221 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:37,840 Speaker 1: would be a cool thing. Vote on it every year, 1222 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 1: unveil the Ultimate Team and then they are those bus 1223 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 1: are in a special level every single year. Yeah, that 1224 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 1: would be cool to like just see all of those 1225 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 1: like set out like almost like a roster, like the 1226 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 1: first team Hall of Fame offense and the first team 1227 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame defense, like those busts set up on 1228 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 1: a wall like positionally, that would be cool. I think 1229 01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 1: you're on the stone. Yeah, I like it. CREDI size 1230 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:05,040 Speaker 1: that give a idarea. By the way, Nana's hurt, she 1231 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:10,760 Speaker 1: should be hold on a second hold place. Nana has 1232 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 1: said she has spoken. She said, bad gibbe criticizing you 1233 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 1: all the time, especially for my dress code. And in 1234 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 1: fact I think that I got in trouble for we 1235 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 1: were applying to Florida. It was supposed to be casual. 1236 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 1: It was casual, closed Tod shoes, nice pant and they 1237 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,040 Speaker 1: wanted you to wear a coat if you were wearing 1238 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 1: if if you wanted to. So I wore a sport 1239 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 1: coat over like a and then this is this goes 1240 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:36,920 Speaker 1: back for years, but these were things that were like 1241 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 1: designer T shirts, like a designer Jimmy Hendricks T shirt 1242 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 1: under a sport coat, nice pants, closed Tod shoes, the 1243 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,880 Speaker 1: whole deal. In my suit hanging in a hanging bag. 1244 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,440 Speaker 1: I asked if it was okay. I was told yes 1245 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,120 Speaker 1: because I brought the suit in case they said no. 1246 01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 1: And then I still got grief for it, and he's 1247 01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,600 Speaker 1: bringing it up years later, years later, you got grief 1248 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 1: because of because it had the image of Hendricks on it, 1249 01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,919 Speaker 1: or was it? It was I guess the shirt wasn't 1250 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:00,760 Speaker 1: formal enough, but I literally he asked as I watched, 1251 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 1: and he said, I have another shirt right here that 1252 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,720 Speaker 1: I will gladly, but just want to be all on 1253 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 1: the same page as everybody. And they said, now you're 1254 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,440 Speaker 1: a blazer on and everything. It was like kind of 1255 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 1: money and then post taste they came at you say yeah, 1256 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 1: and then a young Scarlett look at Enick je Wow, 1257 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 1: he's running around so much right now. This is a 1258 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 1: this is a mid afternoon saunter for him. The back 1259 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 1: of the shirt has even come untucked it, which is 1260 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 1: shocking because he's he's got a lot going on. Enik 1261 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:37,640 Speaker 1: does a little better here. Yeah. Yeah, he's probably listening 1262 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,320 Speaker 1: to the stream. Wanted to know what we're saying about 1263 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 1: him right now. He's the world. He knows you know 1264 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,920 Speaker 1: what he's thinking. He's thinking like that goes, guys, love me, 1265 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 1: what we do? We do? Give me one to know? 1266 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 1: What do you expect from the Finally, I can't practice. 1267 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 1: It feels like it's going to be a fairly light day. 1268 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 1: I think that they're looking at this is kind of, 1269 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, almost a walk through. I'll be curiously if 1270 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 1: they're in pads or not. I think it'll be kind 1271 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 1: of a lighter day. The had a day off and 1272 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,440 Speaker 1: then you get your focused on. I think this is 1273 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 1: gonna be in some ways almost a preparation day for 1274 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,840 Speaker 1: Oh hi, yes, hello, how are you good? All right? 1275 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 1: Are you too sure? Come on in? Yeah? Hey, how 1276 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,960 Speaker 1: you doing good? That's great? Fantastic, fantastic. Um, we are 1277 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 1: such good representatives of this organization. Do you buy the 1278 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,720 Speaker 1: people love us coming through here? They're so exciting. That 1279 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 1: was like a walk back to come and get photos. 1280 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,320 Speaker 1: Walk through, walk back photo. Oh you I'd like to 1281 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,800 Speaker 1: take a photo? We can? That's allowed? Sure, allowed to 1282 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,480 Speaker 1: take photos? Yep? Sure, sure? Would you like me to 1283 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:39,800 Speaker 1: sign it? Yep? What do you need? Handling business? Light 1284 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 1: practice and then then day off fan obsessed brother and 1285 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 1: then ramp it up on Thursday. That's what I think 1286 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,440 Speaker 1: the Eagles, I think today I'll almost be kind of 1287 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 1: a but I'm not sure about that. I don't know. 1288 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 1: Do you know if they're in pads today, Gibby, so 1289 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 1: there you go, yeah, exactly, shelves today in preparation for Thursday. Yeah, 1290 01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 1: that's what I think it's going to be about. When 1291 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 1: did the NFL go from one? Did was that? To 1292 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,080 Speaker 1: c B as ago where they said, look, we we 1293 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 1: can do shells a lot more than we're doing them. 1294 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 1: It's been a while, it's pretty much been. It really 1295 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:12,960 Speaker 1: feels like it's been since I've been around. This is 1296 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 1: my tense training camp. But I still think that's Yeah, 1297 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of been the cop. Yeah that 1298 01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 1: we don't need all that stuff, and uh, in a 1299 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,639 Speaker 1: way we go all right, so we gotta say goodbye 1300 01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:28,800 Speaker 1: to you. You have obligations. Look at just staring down 1301 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 1: with me. Then whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, man whatever. 1302 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 1: The last time I try to say and I'm like, 1303 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 1: I'd like to fish show, no go get out? What 1304 01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 1: do you hang out? Talk out a microphone? That's right, 1305 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,160 Speaker 1: that's right. You know. Look, you're at a point, honest 1306 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,600 Speaker 1: to goodness, like, this is where we're at. This is 1307 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,000 Speaker 1: this is where all of this is. Get the Eagles 1308 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 1: in here, Yes, get the Eagles in here. Let's see 1309 01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,479 Speaker 1: how this team responds to playing somebody else in a 1310 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 1: in turn of a lot of ones and ones. What's 1311 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,640 Speaker 1: that look like? That's interesting. If this is now a 1312 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 1: full transition into a Jacoby Brisette lead team, that's right 1313 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 1: for the next three weeks. So that's and for the 1314 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 1: foreseeable future, that's the way that's gonna look like. Keep 1315 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,679 Speaker 1: everybody healthy. Yeah, take care of your people, coach says 1316 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,679 Speaker 1: us all the time. Take care of each other out there, 1317 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 1: take care of each other, right, have each other's back 1318 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 1: a little bit. So that's that's where we're at with 1319 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,599 Speaker 1: this thing that I think we addressed, like the center situation, 1320 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 1: about how that's gonna play out. We have so much 1321 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 1: depth there that's gonna be okay. I'm curious to see 1322 01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 1: what they do at return here, you know, And I 1323 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,280 Speaker 1: think they need another receiver. I do. I mean it 1324 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:41,760 Speaker 1: might be in a minority, but I think they need 1325 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: another receiver in here because I think we're dangerously thin 1326 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,760 Speaker 1: at that from a proven standpoint, we are. And I 1327 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,680 Speaker 1: think that one of the reasons you say that is 1328 01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:57,719 Speaker 1: because we've watched Amari Cooproder. He's been phenomenal, Donovan's been good. 1329 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,200 Speaker 1: Behind that, it is largely unknown, and you could an 1330 01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 1: injury to AMRII feels crippling, And so I think you 1331 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 1: want somebody else out there. They can they can cut 1332 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,679 Speaker 1: the mustard, somebody that's done it at a high level 1333 01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:14,599 Speaker 1: here in this building. I was trying to think, I don't. 1334 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 1: It's funny, like my context with NFL players a lot 1335 01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,240 Speaker 1: of times is have do they play on a team 1336 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,720 Speaker 1: that I follow or like, or have I ever had 1337 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 1: them in fantasy? So I've never had a Mari Cooper 1338 01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 1: in fantasy, and I don't really follow those teams. I 1339 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,800 Speaker 1: was just curious, like how many times and has he 1340 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:34,559 Speaker 1: ever been as he had injured seasons. So two thousand 1341 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:40,640 Speaker 1: seventeen eight games or something in two thousand eighteen, it 1342 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,240 Speaker 1: looks like it was a little um, let me see 1343 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 1: games he has led Cowboys or tied for the lead 1344 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,760 Speaker 1: in touchdowns every year that he was remember the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, 1345 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,680 Speaker 1: the whole time he's in Dallas, he plays it. Um 1346 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,920 Speaker 1: he played. Yeah, no really all the way through. I 1347 01:10:55,960 --> 01:11:00,519 Speaker 1: mean he played twelve games in seventeen. Um. Yeah, he's played. 1348 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 1: He shows up in place. That's the deal. So you're 1349 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 1: good there, feel good about that, But I do think 1350 01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,120 Speaker 1: you need to add a little depth to it. Same 1351 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 1: all right, brother good. Likewise, the great name uh still 1352 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 1: to come. You'll hear from Stump Mitchell. I'll talk a 1353 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,120 Speaker 1: little bit about the run game and a glut and 1354 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 1: wealth of talent at that particular position. We will get 1355 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 1: to that. We'll go around the league as well. Plus 1356 01:11:22,640 --> 01:12:17,200 Speaker 1: M j Emerson on the program as you return. Cleveland 1357 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:23,240 Speaker 1: Browns Daily sp and Cleveland Runkey Waste Recycling family owned 1358 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 1: an operator where they joined them as a customers and 1359 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,960 Speaker 1: Employeell become part of the family because at runkey dot 1360 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 1: com to learn more as we embark on our final 1361 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,280 Speaker 1: well we're embarking. It's happening. The final training camp practice 1362 01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,640 Speaker 1: of this season is taking place right now here at 1363 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,600 Speaker 1: the cross Country Mortgage Campus. The running back room just 1364 01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,640 Speaker 1: an embarrassment of riches. The man in charge of it 1365 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,080 Speaker 1: is the legendary Stump Mitchell. Let's have a listen. I 1366 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:48,120 Speaker 1: thought he had some good things. Uh we cannot turn 1367 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 1: the ball over, which is one thing we did, but 1368 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:54,320 Speaker 1: he he has some big plays for us scouting department. 1369 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,400 Speaker 1: You know, he could play. I think we got a 1370 01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:00,920 Speaker 1: good guy, especially the round in which we got. Well. Unfortunately, 1371 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,080 Speaker 1: I don't think anything has been kind of fair for 1372 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,160 Speaker 1: Dmitric because he is that tweinterer. He doesn't get a 1373 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 1: chance to spend enough time at receiver or enough time 1374 01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,320 Speaker 1: at running backs, and I think he's getting slighted. He 1375 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,800 Speaker 1: could play both positions. Uh So we're glad to have 1376 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,479 Speaker 1: a guy like that. Unfortunately, for him, like I said, 1377 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,760 Speaker 1: injuries happening and he's the first guy we moved to 1378 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,640 Speaker 1: to that position. Well right now he's healthy. You know, 1379 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 1: he's he's hungry to play football. Uh So if he 1380 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,519 Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy, he'll be he'll be ready 1381 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,559 Speaker 1: to perform the way he he's performing, hopefully better. I 1382 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,160 Speaker 1: don't think any of the running back coaches Kareem has had, 1383 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,280 Speaker 1: including me being number one, has gotten the most out 1384 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,880 Speaker 1: of Kareem. H. He's a physical, talented guy. But we 1385 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 1: got to get into play within well. I have to 1386 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,559 Speaker 1: get him to play within our system. And then you 1387 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 1: all have not seen the best of Koree by no 1388 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,040 Speaker 1: stretch of imagination, because of the type of player he is. 1389 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he's an aggressive player. He needs to be 1390 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:04,040 Speaker 1: just a little more patient and uh and then hit. 1391 01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,040 Speaker 1: Uh he can be the best in the league. No, 1392 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 1: hell no, we haven't seen the best. To make sure 1393 01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 1: of either, Nick's got to be a little more patient. 1394 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,760 Speaker 1: He's got a tag defenders, He's got to make the 1395 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 1: feel longer. Uh. Those are things that that he's working on. 1396 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 1: And he's catching the ball, uh, starting from the spring 1397 01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,720 Speaker 1: and running around a heck of a lot better than 1398 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,920 Speaker 1: he's dead in the past. So we'll see more from him. Well, 1399 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,759 Speaker 1: it's happy. I'm happy to be back. Uh, no question 1400 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 1: about that. I missed being out there. This is what 1401 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,800 Speaker 1: I was going to do other than play it. Uh, 1402 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,719 Speaker 1: so I'm extremely happy. I think we got a great team. Uh. 1403 01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 1: We didn't accomplish the things that we should have last year. Uh. 1404 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,760 Speaker 1: It's a new team. Now we gotta move forward and 1405 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,760 Speaker 1: we got to accomplish the things that we're capable of 1406 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:51,000 Speaker 1: playing up doing. Uh. It's no question we're very talented. 1407 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:52,960 Speaker 1: Now we just have to make it happen. No, I 1408 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,360 Speaker 1: think he's he's playing the to uh to be the 1409 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 1: best that he can be. He's practice to be the 1410 01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,760 Speaker 1: best that he can be. Uh. You know, and I 1411 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,760 Speaker 1: think our system, our system allows those guys to be 1412 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 1: the best in the league. Uh. We do a great 1413 01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,439 Speaker 1: job of of running the ball. But we also do 1414 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,360 Speaker 1: a great job of our play action fakes and all 1415 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:16,240 Speaker 1: of that stuff. I just think, uh, what Kevin brings 1416 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,280 Speaker 1: as a as a head coach and an offensive coordinator 1417 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,400 Speaker 1: in a VP, I think those guys do a hell 1418 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,120 Speaker 1: of a job. And if you guys ever see coach 1419 01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,639 Speaker 1: Callahan with the office of lying him in Scar Peters, 1420 01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,760 Speaker 1: I don't think as a player or coach, I've ever 1421 01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:34,400 Speaker 1: seen anybody work as hard and I've never seen uh 1422 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,880 Speaker 1: anyone gets as much out of his players that can 1423 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,720 Speaker 1: or can't play. He makes the best better and he 1424 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:45,960 Speaker 1: makes those that are average, uh even better. They have 1425 01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,639 Speaker 1: to do their role. I mean your role to keep 1426 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:52,519 Speaker 1: everybody happy, not just the bats, but the wide receivers, 1427 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,680 Speaker 1: the tight ends. If you're in there on third down, 1428 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,559 Speaker 1: you gotta get a first down. Uh, That's that's what 1429 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,320 Speaker 1: you gotta do. Because I don't think sixty plays, six 1430 01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,800 Speaker 1: or four plays or enough for us. I think with 1431 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 1: the skill guys that we have, we we need to 1432 01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,680 Speaker 1: be around seven eight plays in order for everybody to 1433 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,960 Speaker 1: be happy. So when the ball come in your way, 1434 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 1: you gotta catch it. You gotta make the first downs 1435 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,439 Speaker 1: when you're running it. You got to follow your blockers, 1436 01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,600 Speaker 1: you gotta When we need you to be tough and 1437 01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,519 Speaker 1: beat one or two guys, you gotta do it. Uh yeah, 1438 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,200 Speaker 1: I think I think it's exciting because both of those guys, 1439 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,280 Speaker 1: or I should say all of those guys rather uh 1440 01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,679 Speaker 1: de Ernest and Nick or Jerome and Nick or Kareema 1441 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,519 Speaker 1: Nick and whatever combination. I think all those guys can 1442 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,639 Speaker 1: get the job done. We love tough decisions at every position. 1443 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,240 Speaker 1: Trust me, we we love tough decisions at every position 1444 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 1: because that makes us a better football team, you know, 1445 01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:49,000 Speaker 1: so everything will work out the way you're supposed. I mean, 1446 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,720 Speaker 1: all these guys believe in God and they believe in themselves, 1447 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,880 Speaker 1: and UH take it from there. I like him to 1448 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,519 Speaker 1: be one place or the other, you know, but that's 1449 01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,920 Speaker 1: not the way it is. I'm I'm happy. I'm happy 1450 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,639 Speaker 1: because he's that guy. We don't worry. If somebody goes 1451 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,519 Speaker 1: down in the running back room, we got to meet it. 1452 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,760 Speaker 1: If somebody goes down in the wide receiver room, we 1453 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,760 Speaker 1: have d metric. So, Uh, that was a great pick 1454 01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,559 Speaker 1: for us as a player. Now for him, of course, 1455 01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,760 Speaker 1: it gets frustrating a little bit because he would like 1456 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,800 Speaker 1: to challenge uh either in the running back or the 1457 01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:27,320 Speaker 1: wide receiver room right now. Uh, guys get injured and 1458 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,599 Speaker 1: we can't afford afford him that opportunity. But we're so 1459 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,880 Speaker 1: glad to have him because we know we can put 1460 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,559 Speaker 1: him in the game plan. He also returned kid costs, 1461 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,519 Speaker 1: returned punts, you do it all for us. It's just 1462 01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,800 Speaker 1: an embarrassment of riches in the room with the two 1463 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,599 Speaker 1: guys at the top and then the earnest and drew 1464 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 1: him forward behind him, and then Felton's ability to now 1465 01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,280 Speaker 1: swing over and help the receivers a little bit. There's 1466 01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,040 Speaker 1: just a ton of depth and honestly, the way we're 1467 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 1: gonna play earlier, you're gonna need all of it. I mean, 1468 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,599 Speaker 1: I've referenced it several times. That Broncos game with Keenom 1469 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,800 Speaker 1: that was the earnest with carries on a hundred and 1470 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,680 Speaker 1: forty six. So you're gonna need uh, You're gonna need 1471 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,400 Speaker 1: to a lot heavily on that run game in the 1472 01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,760 Speaker 1: ground and pound, and this room is ready for it. 1473 01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,439 Speaker 1: If you can stay healthy, there's no reason that you 1474 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,160 Speaker 1: can't ride this group for a long time. Well, I 1475 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 1: mean the question becomes who who's playing? Well, that's it. 1476 01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,960 Speaker 1: It's a seventeen game season, you know, so there's gonna 1477 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,479 Speaker 1: be time when you know, like Nick, Nick's probably not 1478 01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 1: gonna play seventeen games, right, so like someone's gonna be 1479 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,760 Speaker 1: danged here there Korean has been dinged the last couple 1480 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,840 Speaker 1: of years. Like, you know, you're gonna need them all 1481 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,920 Speaker 1: at some point. You'drove forward though, being as good as 1482 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,800 Speaker 1: he is is, I mean, it's a real shot in 1483 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,800 Speaker 1: the arm to that room. Not that it needed it, 1484 01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:38,120 Speaker 1: but it adds to it. You have five Backs right now. Yeah, 1485 01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,639 Speaker 1: because everybody forgets about John Kelly, who, by the way, 1486 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:45,160 Speaker 1: looked pretty good on Friday night. Um, he's become a 1487 01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,160 Speaker 1: nice little serviceable back as well. And you still don't 1488 01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,559 Speaker 1: know what exactly's gonna happen with Dimitrich Felton. Don't you 1489 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,400 Speaker 1: think at this point he's got to go receiver room? 1490 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,920 Speaker 1: I would think, But you know, I know one of 1491 01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,360 Speaker 1: the things Stump said yesterday when he talked to the media, 1492 01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,519 Speaker 1: he was like, it has not been fair, but he's 1493 01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,559 Speaker 1: he's kind of a tweeter. Yeah, you know, is he 1494 01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,720 Speaker 1: a running back? Is he a wide receiver? Trying to 1495 01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 1: find his way here? And you know, I would think 1496 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,720 Speaker 1: at this point, with the wide receiver room being what 1497 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,240 Speaker 1: it is, you probably need him on that wide receiver side. Well, 1498 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,280 Speaker 1: if you feel like he'll be in the return mix 1499 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:22,479 Speaker 1: as well, he's got to be because Grant's done, so 1500 01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 1: he's got to be in the return mix there. Um. 1501 01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:29,600 Speaker 1: And with with Jacoby, you're you're gonna be talking. You know, 1502 01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,600 Speaker 1: you might be talking thirty thirty carries a game for 1503 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,680 Speaker 1: the Backs, maybe more by the time all of a 1504 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,519 Speaker 1: sudden done, You'll probably be more deliberate with what you're 1505 01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,040 Speaker 1: doing offensively, um, and then the other thing that's gonna 1506 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,759 Speaker 1: happen is is whenever if slash, when there's a transition 1507 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,240 Speaker 1: to Watson, whether that's however far too into the season, 1508 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,479 Speaker 1: that comes, well, then this offense switches to something else. 1509 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm telling you what, man, this is a lot for 1510 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:56,200 Speaker 1: Stefanski just from a schematic standpoint. You know, he's it's 1511 01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,080 Speaker 1: all his offense, but it's two very different ways to 1512 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,680 Speaker 1: do it, depending on who the quarterback is and if 1513 01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,200 Speaker 1: there is if there is something where Watson is eligible 1514 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,920 Speaker 1: to return somewhere down the road ten games, twelve games 1515 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,960 Speaker 1: in something like that, how do you flip what you've 1516 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:14,240 Speaker 1: been doing into that also predicated on him being great 1517 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,360 Speaker 1: right away, even though he hadn't really played football in 1518 01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,559 Speaker 1: a couple of years. By the time he plays, it's 1519 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,160 Speaker 1: a lot to juggle. There's a lot on the plate 1520 01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,880 Speaker 1: right now for coach to Fansky. Not that he's gonna complain, 1521 01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:28,479 Speaker 1: but it's the one position that has an embarrassment of riches. 1522 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,160 Speaker 1: It is. And that's why I wondered, because you know 1523 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:31,760 Speaker 1: how I feel about the receiver room, and I liked 1524 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,439 Speaker 1: the guys in there. I just think you need another guy, 1525 01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,599 Speaker 1: you know, I think Schwartz is inconsistencies are real, and 1526 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,640 Speaker 1: that's and he was great. He was in here in 1527 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,680 Speaker 1: the spring. You love him, but you know, at some 1528 01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,960 Speaker 1: point the easy ones have to be easy and you 1529 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,439 Speaker 1: need somebody else you can really count on their Amari 1530 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,960 Speaker 1: has been played a lot in his career. You need 1531 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,120 Speaker 1: a full season of him. Donovan looks great, you need 1532 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,439 Speaker 1: Bell to step it up. But to me, there needs 1533 01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,840 Speaker 1: to be another guy in that mix, somewhere, a pro 1534 01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,200 Speaker 1: and whether that's when I look at the running back room, 1535 01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 1: I go, well, is are an opportunity there maybe for 1536 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,120 Speaker 1: a trade because you have a you know, it's kind 1537 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,920 Speaker 1: of too much for that room. Yeah, I mean that's 1538 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:13,080 Speaker 1: especially if it can help you at other positions. Absolutely 1539 01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,640 Speaker 1: absolutely alright. One position that we have no need and 1540 01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,439 Speaker 1: very similar running back is certainly that of cornerback. Nathan 1541 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,680 Speaker 1: goes one on one with m j Emerson coming up next. 1542 01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:24,800 Speaker 1: You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty esp 1543 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:30,960 Speaker 1: in Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily ESPN Cleveland The Land on 1544 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,720 Speaker 1: Demand is now free in the palm of your hands. 1545 01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,880 Speaker 1: During the entire month of August ESP and Cleveland the 1546 01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,040 Speaker 1: Bath Authority given fans free access to the Land on 1547 01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,679 Speaker 1: Demand for all the news you don't want to see 1548 01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:40,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to miss. Rather and see us live 1549 01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,040 Speaker 1: in the new studios, or play all your favorite shows 1550 01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,040 Speaker 1: commercial free and on demand. Get all access to Tony Gross's, 1551 01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,320 Speaker 1: Brown's analysis and more. Visit Land on the Man dot 1552 01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,719 Speaker 1: com or download the app today. The Land on Demand 1553 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,720 Speaker 1: remodeled by the Bath Authority. Now here's Nathan with m 1554 01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,800 Speaker 1: J Emerson. Very happy now to be joined by a 1555 01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 1: man who had a standout debut down in Jacksonville. Brown's 1556 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,559 Speaker 1: quarterback m J Emerson And m J did you have 1557 01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,680 Speaker 1: a premonition going into this one? You know, Hey, I'm 1558 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 1: gonna come out of here with a big splash play. Well, 1559 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,760 Speaker 1: not really, I just came in, you know, just I 1560 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,639 Speaker 1: want to do my job, you know, and just that's 1561 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:13,680 Speaker 1: how we winn to do our jobs. So I just 1562 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:15,800 Speaker 1: so I do my job every play and try to 1563 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,240 Speaker 1: win every play. So let's go back to college. Okay, 1564 01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:21,000 Speaker 1: in college, they target you ont percent of your snaps 1565 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,360 Speaker 1: and coverage the jacks through the ball your way, probably 1566 01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,120 Speaker 1: as much. That was probably like five games worth of 1567 01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,800 Speaker 1: passes in your direction. Was that kind of like, oh 1568 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,559 Speaker 1: my god, I gotta be ready the ball is coming 1569 01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:32,040 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I'm very excited about that, you know. 1570 01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,679 Speaker 1: Man being in this league now, I know I'm a rookie, 1571 01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:36,760 Speaker 1: so they're gonna target me, you know, so I'll get 1572 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,080 Speaker 1: myself established. So that's fun. I get to have fun, 1573 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, and actually just play my game. And a 1574 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,360 Speaker 1: lot was maybe had one interception college, well one game 1575 01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,080 Speaker 1: here in the NFL and preseason, you got that interception. 1576 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:47,800 Speaker 1: What was going through your mind on that play? Walk 1577 01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:49,720 Speaker 1: me through that play from the time from the alignment 1578 01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:51,200 Speaker 1: to the ball being in the air and then the 1579 01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,360 Speaker 1: ball being in your hands. Okay, Um coming up to 1580 01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,559 Speaker 1: the line was second second and five. I want to 1581 01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:01,000 Speaker 1: say second is short? Um, the thirty second left on 1582 01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:02,800 Speaker 1: the clock. I know they probably just want to, you know, 1583 01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,679 Speaker 1: get some yardists not not probably not took a deep shot. 1584 01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:09,240 Speaker 1: So um, really just winning my level is honestly kick 1585 01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:13,840 Speaker 1: Steppan gets playing on top of the route. Yeah, um, 1586 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,840 Speaker 1: just doing my job, honestly, just stand on top of 1587 01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,680 Speaker 1: the route. I watched the quarterback throw the ball, so 1588 01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:20,559 Speaker 1: I was I was playing on breaking it up. But 1589 01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:22,680 Speaker 1: how I was I was on top of it, so 1590 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,840 Speaker 1: I was able to slip when I seen the ball on, 1591 01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:26,680 Speaker 1: so I was able to get my hands on to 1592 01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,080 Speaker 1: make a play. So you grabbed it and then you 1593 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:31,439 Speaker 1: took off. And then he saw a guy from the 1594 01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:33,559 Speaker 1: great state of Mississippi, the running back from old mess 1595 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,200 Speaker 1: Mississippi State. Here's there a little a little stiff firm 1596 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,280 Speaker 1: to him, and then you were gone, yep, hell state. Yeah, 1597 01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:40,920 Speaker 1: I give him a little stiff for him it. Yeah, 1598 01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't getting caught at that point. Did that help 1599 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:44,800 Speaker 1: be in? I know you're receiver in high school and 1600 01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:46,840 Speaker 1: and you looked great, very natural in the open field. 1601 01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,200 Speaker 1: Was that something channeling back you know, playing as a kid. Yeah, yeah, 1602 01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,080 Speaker 1: I felt great because like coming up and part warned 1603 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,840 Speaker 1: like my signature move wasn't still for him, so like 1604 01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,360 Speaker 1: in my home state, everybody know me has a stiff 1605 01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,320 Speaker 1: for him guy. So yeah, I felt good of doing 1606 01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,280 Speaker 1: that get the ball and being able to do that 1607 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,640 Speaker 1: move again. Did Snoop kind of come up to you 1608 01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,680 Speaker 1: after the game? Nah? You know, he stayed for with 1609 01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,760 Speaker 1: exactly exactly once. Last time you score a touchdown high 1610 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,960 Speaker 1: school man, it's been some years, I want to say, 1611 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,160 Speaker 1: probably like five years. So when you're going and you're like, 1612 01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:18,920 Speaker 1: all right, you're in the clear. You know you're gonna 1613 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 1: get your veered away from the one guy that was 1614 01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:21,960 Speaker 1: in pursuit where you like thinking like, am I going 1615 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,040 Speaker 1: to celebrate? Did you even know what to do once 1616 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:25,760 Speaker 1: you got there's been a long time. Yeah, I just 1617 01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,040 Speaker 1: wanted to make shot score it first, you know, and 1618 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,360 Speaker 1: then I haven't scored it so long, so you know, 1619 01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,160 Speaker 1: in college you can't celebrate. High school you can't celebrate, 1620 01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,559 Speaker 1: So I gotta I gotta find a celebration if I 1621 01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,800 Speaker 1: scored the ball more so listen, I think we'll all 1622 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:39,800 Speaker 1: be heavy for scoring the ball. More for the Cleveland brands, 1623 01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:41,600 Speaker 1: I want to go back. You do have one celebration 1624 01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,320 Speaker 1: when I watched your college tape with your a dB 1625 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,760 Speaker 1: coach Jeff Howard that I know, the like seatbelt like 1626 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,200 Speaker 1: strap him in. Okay, where did that come from? That's 1627 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,000 Speaker 1: more of a PU celebration. But seatbell is just like 1628 01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, um, when you get in a car, you 1629 01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:56,559 Speaker 1: gotta strap in. So I'm stopped he locked in? You know, Yeah, definitely, 1630 01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,320 Speaker 1: first all, I love that. I think that's a great 1631 01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,040 Speaker 1: little celebration, and I think we'll hopefully we'll get to 1632 01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,120 Speaker 1: see more of that this year. What was it like 1633 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,880 Speaker 1: though after you scored? This is the thing to me 1634 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:06,920 Speaker 1: that I think stands out makes so cool. You're in 1635 01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:08,840 Speaker 1: a very competitive room. You've got a lot of talented 1636 01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 1: people in there, a lot of people who want to 1637 01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,519 Speaker 1: be playing football right, and you're all very good. They're 1638 01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,639 Speaker 1: only just somebody snaps to go around. And yet when 1639 01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,840 Speaker 1: you scored, you can tell how much how tight this 1640 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:19,639 Speaker 1: room is, how much you guys like each other in support. 1641 01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:21,640 Speaker 1: When Herb got his pick later on, you guys are 1642 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,680 Speaker 1: all going bonkers. What's it like? Why are you surprised 1643 01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:26,720 Speaker 1: by that camaraderie, that brotherhood in there? Like? How does 1644 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,439 Speaker 1: that come? Um? Not really, I'm not surprised. I feel like, no, 1645 01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,640 Speaker 1: that's that's chemistry, and that's how our team should be, 1646 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,560 Speaker 1: you know. So, um, if whoever makes the play, you 1647 01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,360 Speaker 1: know we should be having for your brother. That's kind 1648 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,800 Speaker 1: of how we live by in and coach, would you 1649 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:40,680 Speaker 1: always say when you make a play, go celebrate with 1650 01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,519 Speaker 1: your team. You know, that's that's the beauty of making 1651 01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,759 Speaker 1: a play. So when you make the play, then celebrate. 1652 01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 1: Did you get an alpha dog for this? That's right. 1653 01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,960 Speaker 1: Is that your first one? Yeah? My first one? How 1654 01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,000 Speaker 1: that feel good? But I feel like I should have 1655 01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,720 Speaker 1: plenty more. But it's all right, that's okay. You got 1656 01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,200 Speaker 1: one now and now you can build on it. How 1657 01:25:58,280 --> 01:25:59,880 Speaker 1: is it presented? Is it like in the meeting? Like 1658 01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:01,559 Speaker 1: he sayds up there, he's like alpha dog this week 1659 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,800 Speaker 1: they show your highlight and then everybody goes nuts for you. Exactly. Yeah, 1660 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,000 Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. The dB starting to collect a few 1661 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,240 Speaker 1: of those. Yeah, and now he has like a gold football. 1662 01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:15,799 Speaker 1: So the group, well, the ALFA dog gets to go, well, turnover, 1663 01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,920 Speaker 1: you get a turnover, you get gold football. So we're 1664 01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,640 Speaker 1: trying to keep the gold football in our room. I 1665 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,880 Speaker 1: like that. So what did Coach Howard? Obviously there are 1666 01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,080 Speaker 1: things I'm sure that what we're gonna focus on the good, right, 1667 01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:27,559 Speaker 1: but there are things that you probably want to clean 1668 01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 1: up after that first game. What was kind of that 1669 01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,439 Speaker 1: discussion with Coach Lynch Coach Howard on you know, Okay, 1670 01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,160 Speaker 1: we did some great things. Obviously we have the huge 1671 01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,439 Speaker 1: highlight splash play. But here's where I want to continue 1672 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,599 Speaker 1: to hold my craft and get better just all around, man, everything, 1673 01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,479 Speaker 1: you know, everything we do, I feel like, you know, 1674 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't have it all figure out, obviously not, but 1675 01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,960 Speaker 1: just gonna just being a better player all around. And 1676 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,040 Speaker 1: the first play, really the first player came and him 1677 01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:50,640 Speaker 1: with a dope move. You know, if I would have 1678 01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,360 Speaker 1: killed my buff, I could have made a play there. Um, 1679 01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:55,599 Speaker 1: you were out of them. Were you surprised the ball 1680 01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,439 Speaker 1: game because you were on top of him? I was 1681 01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,439 Speaker 1: on them, but I got to make that play then 1682 01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,080 Speaker 1: it was a play was like third and long and 1683 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,040 Speaker 1: I was when I was on top, I had a buffer. 1684 01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,320 Speaker 1: I was going to convert, but he just threw the 1685 01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,320 Speaker 1: ball up. I could have actually picked that ball too, 1686 01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:11,519 Speaker 1: So just you know, missed opportunities and just you know, 1687 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,120 Speaker 1: making making the best of every opportunity. So really I'm 1688 01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:16,600 Speaker 1: just doing to know now, I'm like, I could have 1689 01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,040 Speaker 1: had two turnover instead of one. I like that, always 1690 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,760 Speaker 1: room for improvement being out here with the fans. And 1691 01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:23,400 Speaker 1: actually I can tell you a little personal story here. 1692 01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:24,840 Speaker 1: It's one of my good friends had his kids out 1693 01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,400 Speaker 1: here one of the early days of camp, and you 1694 01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,320 Speaker 1: came over and we're very nice to him. And so 1695 01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,000 Speaker 1: when you got the pickies, like, I know that guy, 1696 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:31,559 Speaker 1: you know, he's so nice he was so cool to me. 1697 01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:33,880 Speaker 1: What's it been like to interact with these fans here 1698 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,920 Speaker 1: in Cleveland? And I'm sure you saw obviously on social 1699 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,400 Speaker 1: media after your pick. I mean, they love ball and 1700 01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:39,960 Speaker 1: they love players who go out there and make plays 1701 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,000 Speaker 1: like you dead that. So it's great, man, because you know, 1702 01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,559 Speaker 1: without the fans, it's no Cleveland Brown. So you know, 1703 01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:46,280 Speaker 1: we played for the fans. We played for you know, 1704 01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,920 Speaker 1: each other, and you know it's fun just you know, 1705 01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:52,240 Speaker 1: you got a big support system, and the fans like 1706 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown fans, you know, they real supporters and they 1707 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, they love us, so we love them too, 1708 01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,240 Speaker 1: no doubt. Coming up this week joint practice. This will 1709 01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:01,759 Speaker 1: be the first time we do join practice. The Eagles 1710 01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:03,880 Speaker 1: coming to town. They've got some darn good receivers there. 1711 01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,080 Speaker 1: They got you know, a J. Brown, they went out 1712 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:07,839 Speaker 1: in the draft last year, got the young man from Alabama, 1713 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,360 Speaker 1: DeVante Smith. You're looking forward to kind of getting some 1714 01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,519 Speaker 1: work in a practice setting, but against another team and 1715 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,519 Speaker 1: some other guys. Sorry, because we actually get a compete. 1716 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,240 Speaker 1: You know, you know, we could we could be here, 1717 01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,479 Speaker 1: but it's more, you know, it's a family. It's family, 1718 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,160 Speaker 1: so we take care of each other. So now we 1719 01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:24,840 Speaker 1: get to go dogs and guys. You know, it's just 1720 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,080 Speaker 1: let it loose clip. I saw actually on tape of 1721 01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,360 Speaker 1: you doing the strap and was on Jamison Williams Davante 1722 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,519 Speaker 1: Smith's teammates. You remember going against him down there in 1723 01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,559 Speaker 1: the sec. Did you guys go head to head? Yeah, Smithie, 1724 01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,800 Speaker 1: we actually went here to here my friend my sophmore Ye, 1725 01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,439 Speaker 1: So looking forward to get out there against them again. Yeah, 1726 01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:41,920 Speaker 1: I know a little bit about them, so yeah, I'm 1727 01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,600 Speaker 1: excited to play against some great player. It'll be I 1728 01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:46,040 Speaker 1: think it's a lot of fun. Right when you get 1729 01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:47,639 Speaker 1: to come out here. You guys have gone through training camp, 1730 01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,599 Speaker 1: it's kind of winding down now and now it's about 1731 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,519 Speaker 1: the games and we're getting closer. Right, we're less than 1732 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,800 Speaker 1: a month away from the regular season. Kind of how's 1733 01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,320 Speaker 1: your mindset as you kind of transition out of training camp, 1734 01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,479 Speaker 1: the Eagles come to town, and then after that it's 1735 01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,799 Speaker 1: really starting to get normal and get ready for the season. Um, 1736 01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:03,639 Speaker 1: you know, it's my first season, so I don't really 1737 01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,559 Speaker 1: know too much about about the schedule and how things 1738 01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:08,240 Speaker 1: gonna work out. But I just try to take a 1739 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,800 Speaker 1: day by day, you know, get better and just keep 1740 01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,000 Speaker 1: getting better and just keep showing what I you know, 1741 01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,400 Speaker 1: what I can bring help the team out. What's either 1742 01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,479 Speaker 1: the best thing somebody said to you after that game, 1743 01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,560 Speaker 1: or like maybe a surprise person who reached out to 1744 01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:24,200 Speaker 1: you after that game to congratulate you. I already know. 1745 01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:28,000 Speaker 1: I already know because I tried well. I don't really 1746 01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,760 Speaker 1: look at too much too many comes and stuff like that, 1747 01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:31,960 Speaker 1: but it was a lot of people. You know, you 1748 01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:33,519 Speaker 1: guys lame me on my plane. I was just saying 1749 01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:37,599 Speaker 1: thank you. So yeah, how happy is your family happy? Yeah? 1750 01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:39,920 Speaker 1: They're always happy. Even if I played bad, they happy. 1751 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,240 Speaker 1: So I appreciate. The good news is you don't do 1752 01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:43,760 Speaker 1: that very often. Did you get to keep the ball? 1753 01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:45,640 Speaker 1: Do you have the ball? I threw the ball, but 1754 01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,479 Speaker 1: I try to get it back what they couldn't find it, 1755 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,519 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't have You'll just have to get 1756 01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:53,639 Speaker 1: another one. Yeah, another one season, m J. Always a pleasure. 1757 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,720 Speaker 1: Congrats on that big interception to touchdown. And next time 1758 01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,360 Speaker 1: we'll have a celebration and we'll get you out of 1759 01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:01,920 Speaker 1: those balls. Thank you. Like Dr Richard Kimball, you find 1760 01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,640 Speaker 1: that ball, don't you find that ball? Come on it 1761 01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:08,120 Speaker 1: wasn't sold out. No, someone's finding that ball. You gotta 1762 01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,160 Speaker 1: find that. Come on, come on, do the guy. Do 1763 01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,680 Speaker 1: the guy a favor. Let's get MJ's ball. Uh. To 1764 01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:15,960 Speaker 1: give you guys a kind of an idea where we 1765 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:19,760 Speaker 1: are going forward. So practice will finish up today, off day, Tomorrow, 1766 01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:24,000 Speaker 1: Eagles here Thursday and Friday games Sunday. So just an 1767 01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,799 Speaker 1: idea of kind of where we are as this week progresses. 1768 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,000 Speaker 1: I should remind you training campus underway. The Brown Raffle 1769 01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:31,880 Speaker 1: is now open. The Browns Mobile app is where you 1770 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,720 Speaker 1: can find at brown dot com. Purchase your tickets. The 1771 01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,639 Speaker 1: Raffle inns on Sunday, August one. Don't miss your chance 1772 01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,280 Speaker 1: to win big while supporting the Stay in the Game 1773 01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:42,120 Speaker 1: network and shoes and Clothes for Kids. The next levels 1774 01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,479 Speaker 1: coming up next. Thanks for listening, everybody Clean Brown's Daily 1775 01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:48,519 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. 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