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Speaker 1: This is Teddy Teapot with Cabinet. Okay, you guys, welcome

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Speaker 1: to this week's Teddy Teapot. I am super excited because

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be co hosting with my friend Chris, a claner.

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Speaker 1: You guys have seen her on the Daily Pop. She

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Speaker 1: is so fun. She has such a light, amazing personality

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Speaker 1: and super cute kids that we have so much to

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Speaker 1: connect on, especially all the juice. So let's get started. So, Chris,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining me this week. Like how I

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Speaker 1: had to slide into your d M s I was like, hey, anytime, girl,

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Speaker 1: this week's Teddy teapod. Um, what did you have to

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Speaker 1: do to bribe your kids so that you could do

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Speaker 1: this right now? Oh? Well you picked a perfect time.

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Speaker 1: This is now time. So it's not bribing my kids.

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Speaker 1: It's bribing my husband to watch to make sure the

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I'm going to have Oh there's my

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on dinner duty tonight. That's how it goes.

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Speaker 1: I know. My kids came in like probably about three

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Speaker 1: And I'm like what. And it's that the dogs had

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Speaker 1: to see this. Dad is downstair. He could have seen this.

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Speaker 1: He could have been the one to help you with this. Always,

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Speaker 1: always I want mom to do it. I want Mom.

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Speaker 1: It has to be Mom. You're like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: this is a dog eating a bird that is dead.

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Speaker 1: I think dad. And then if there's anything that screams

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Speaker 1: more Dad, it's that that one. And then they want

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Speaker 1: to really get into the details, like do you think

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Speaker 1: don't know what you're like, And I don't have time

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Speaker 1: I have to go talk about other people's problems. Most importantly, Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I totally feel you. It's tough, but yeah, you make

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Speaker 1: we have babies the same age, right, Like, hell yeah,

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Speaker 1: But you gotta hold onto it because the lunch time nap,

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Speaker 1: I can still take one nap a day, which he's

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Speaker 1: this is a dream, yes exactly. I love that we're

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Speaker 1: the first topic that Teddy t pod listeners are wanting

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Speaker 1: us to dig into, which is the Army Hammer of

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Speaker 1: to catch people up that don't know the backstory, I'm

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Speaker 1: last Weekly article, Army hammers no Stranger controversy and backlash,

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Speaker 1: having raised eyebrows for his questionable behavior in comments as

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Speaker 1: far as the early days of his career. D ms

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Speaker 1: which have not been verified, detailed domineering sexual fantasies ranging

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Speaker 1: from rape to mutilation to cannibalism. Hammer called the screenshots

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Speaker 1: in addition to slamming the vicious and spurs online attacks

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Speaker 1: let me let me look at it exactly. Her name

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Speaker 1: is Lela Darvilla, and she helps women and men become

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Speaker 1: their most authentic sexual selves. We to ask her questions

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Speaker 1: in regards. I love that some of those that can

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Speaker 1: As the scheduling sex hot exactly, I'm like, uh, is

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Speaker 1: and then you're like trying to be like, but I'm hot, right,

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Speaker 1: right now because of COVID, but there are clubs where

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Speaker 1: you can go and they're like kind of enginey kind

427
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: of spaces, but you can experience like watching somebody being

428
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: tied up in the shabari method, you know, and you

429
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: can see what the process is beforehand that they go

430
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: through and what signals and communication techniques they have like

431
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: to set up that scene and to make it safe.

432
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: So um yeah, there's plenty in l A actually, and

433
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: same with flogging or anything like that that you you

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Speaker 1: kind of want to experience or you want more knowledge

435
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: on There's a plethora of resources out there online. I

436
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Speaker 1: love it. Do you do you think that if there

437
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: is more of a discussion about this than people would,

438
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,239
Speaker 1: this wouldn't be such a shock to all of us

439
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: right now, Like like right now, I think he's losing jobs.

440
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 1: He is how I don't even know how to express

441
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: this in the in the correct way, but like, well

442
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: he thought losing his career. But I mean, I mean

443
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: to chime in on that answer, just I think also

444
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: it's it's because of the consent thing, right. It goes

445
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: back to the fact that these women are coming out

446
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: and saying that they were uncomfortable, they felt manipulated, they

447
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: fell violent, and I feel traumatized from traumatized. And if

448
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: it was if it was a consensual loving thing that

449
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: he was having with these several women, then they wouldn't

450
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: be coming out saying those things exactly. I totally believe

451
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: that as well. And you know, you combine it to

452
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: Teddy with those other things you said, to the videos

453
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: of him drinking and driving, of him doing other things,

454
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: and to other p gool like getting away from army.

455
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: Why do men or but why don't men are women

456
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: feel the need to send what they're doing to other people?

457
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: M M. Maybe there's willing validation, you know, Um, yeah,

458
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: validation and acknowledgement is like without somebody else's consent, Like,

459
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: why is that ever a good idea? I would say

460
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: it was never a good idea. I mean, to take

461
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: a video of yourself drinking and driving. I mean, I

462
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: don't know what is he doing bragging about? And it's

463
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do we live in that world now, Riley?

464
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: Look at TikTok and Instagram. It's just all out there.

465
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: Everyone's putting it all out there and transienc picture right.

466
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: I think some people at this point, You're right, they're

467
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: so familiar with filming themselves NonStop throughout the day. It's

468
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: just second nature. I mean I think maybe. And just

469
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: on that note of alcoholism and drinking and drugs and stuff,

470
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, you do lose, um a little bit of

471
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: discernment when you're under the influence, which is why in

472
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: BDSM you never participate when you've been drinking or or

473
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: been taking drugs, because very hard to acknowledge your own

474
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: boundaries and that of somebody else's when you're under the

475
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: influence and so I think people are like posting when

476
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: they are under the influence, and so they've lost that

477
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Speaker 1: that sense of discernment of what is yeah, what is

478
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Speaker 1: right and healthy? And then Chris like you were going

479
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: to ask a question before first break and don't think

480
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: I forgot it. I think I forgot it. What was

481
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: my question? Oh, how do you feel sexy whenever you're

482
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: covered in breast milk? And and asked when we do that?

483
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: I was like, hold on, where are we going? Oh? Well, yeah,

484
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: I mean there are seasons for everything, right, I wouldn't

485
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: say that I felt felt like my sexiest self when

486
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: I had you know, all the bodily fluids and all

487
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: of all of that. But um, you know, I think

488
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: and acknowledging that we don't always feel like the full

489
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: moon in terms of our sexuality and know that there's

490
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: waxing and waning with it. When you're breastfeeding. There's just

491
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: there's a biochemical thing that's going on in the body

492
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: as well where you're all your sex hormones are suppressed

493
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: because you're producing prolactin for the milk and to produce

494
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: milk for the baby. So to acknowledge that, to know

495
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,239
Speaker 1: that you know you're not necessarily going to want that

496
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: hot style of sex. That may be the connectction that

497
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: you're after and the intimacy that you're looking for is

498
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: more more of the warm variety, a little bit more sensual,

499
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: and a little bit more just being held and an adored,

500
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: rather than that hot, passionate sex that we we all

501
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: think is the thing to be buying for all the time.

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00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: I do have another question, and I have to ask

503
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: this because I have this conversation with a lot of

504
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: my friends, and you know, I've been with my husband

505
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: for like thirteen years. We have been married that long,

506
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: but we've been together for a very long time. So

507
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: we've obviously had like seasons where it's hard and heavy,

508
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: seasons where it's not as hard and heavy, and it

509
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: kind of like ebbs and flows and what. One of

510
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: the things whenever we ever go through like a little

511
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: period where like we haven't been having sex as much

512
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: as we usually do, it's like getting back on track,

513
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: Like what's the like is there like a like a

514
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: schedules like you should follow to like get you back

515
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: onto the like your regular scheduled programming, Do you know what?

516
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: I think it's much the best tip to get back

517
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: on regular schedule programming whenever you've taken a little break. Yeah,

518
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: I think to acknowledge for yourself, like why sex is

519
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: important in your life, Why why your relationships, why your

520
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: relationship is important, um, And to even have that conversation

521
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: with your partner, and then to prioritize it. I mean,

522
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: we are so busy. There are so many things that

523
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: we we could possibly do in a day that if

524
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: we just left left it up a chance, I think

525
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: it really gets pushed to the bottom of the list

526
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the time. So it's not about scheduling sex.

527
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: It's about carving out time to connect with your partner,

528
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 1: and then through that connection that you harve out you know,

529
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: seeing what a writers, seeing what wants to be played out,

530
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: seeing what the dynamic allows for um. And it may

531
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: it may turn sexy, you never know. But I'm not

532
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: a huge advocate of like scheduling sex and making sure

533
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: that you have penetrating sex and you both get off.

534
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm more about scheduling time just for intimacy and just

535
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: and for that connection time and mean through that that

536
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: connection than a lot of the time I find that

537
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you get all those more fuzzy

538
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: feelings and you get to share, you know, what's going

539
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: on in your inner world, and you feel that connection

540
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: and warms your heart and then it flows over into

541
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: other areas of your body and you're open and you

542
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: know want to you know, want to connect in that way.

543
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: But you know, we get pretty smamp by the practical

544
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: and I like ending on that positive note. Where do people?

545
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: I know that you have a great podcast, can you

546
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: plug give us all the info so that people can

547
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: So there's the Intimate Knowledge podcast I heard radio podcasts

548
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: that's available on iTunes. Um, but you can find me

549
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: and all of my work loving Leila Um, and I

550
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: have a great course actually it's called Living Turned On.

551
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: It's a really great way for moms and people are

552
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: super super busy to kind of get into their bodies

553
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: and to tune into themselves. Um. It's really short. It's

554
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: a short kind of by sized course. UM. Yeah. And

555
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: I have had lots of stuff coming out as well

556
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: on my website. So thank you for joining us. Yeah

557
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: not a preblem lady, Thanks for having me. Bye, thanks

558
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 1: by bye. She was so great. No, I didn't I

559
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: did not even realize that cannibalism is considered a kink.

560
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't either. I didn't know there

561
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: was a really like a real fantasy. I thought that

562
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: was a death. It was like you get arrested, right.

563
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: I thought that was like I want to eat to you,

564
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: like I want to kill you like a We don't

565
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: know my way. I don't think that we're living on

566
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: the edge. As much as I don't think we are.

567
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: I think we need to open our eyes and uh,

568
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: we realized there's a bigger world out there. There's a

569
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: bigger world out there. I mean, I can't. I mean

570
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: not to get too personal, but like even if like

571
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: Edwin's like to chatty during during the business, Yeah enough, buddy,

572
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm good. Just wait next time, you're always gonna be

573
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna take a buttter to your arm, Daddy,

574
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna like it. Your arm looks delicious, like oh,

575
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: some some pepper on that William definitely Ranch dressing downstairs. No, no, no,

576
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: well next we were. If we're not into it now,

577
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: we probably won't ever get into it. I know, I've honestly,

578
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm now in a full sweat even like yeah, yeah,

579
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean some of that stuff sounds exciting that she

580
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: was talking about, but not so much of the candibalism. Cannibalism. No,

581
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: I think I'm good without it. I think I'm good. Um,

582
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: But to each his own, to each his own. Just consent,

583
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: y'all consent. But now we have to take a little

584
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: break and then we're gonna come back and we're gonna

585
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: talk about some trends I didn't even know until the

586
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: other day. Skinny jeans are out. What, well, I'm not.

587
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm not following that. No, fine, all right, we'll be

588
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: right back. Okay, guys, Now we are bringing on Nicky

589
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: and Stacy, who are gonna talking all things mom jeans.

590
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: Skinny jeans are out, I refused to do. We have

591
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: to talk about everything in regards to all the things,

592
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: and you're hilarious TikTok video and some of the comments,

593
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: those comments were some for the books for sure. All right, guys,

594
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: tell us about the video. I need I need to

595
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: know what inspired it. I need to know why I

596
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: need to buy these genes that will well, I actually

597
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: don't think you should because I'm going to remain true

598
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: to my skinny jeans for sure. But Stacy, here's a brainchild,

599
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: And there was something going on with TikTok with side

600
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: parts and skinny jeans. And one day I was at

601
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: Alta in my typical uniform, which is skinny jeans and

602
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: my side part, and lo and behold, she put up

603
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: a post on me saying clearly someone didn't get the menu.

604
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry the memo and then all of a sudden boom.

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00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: I think for some of us, the middle part doesn't

606
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: work that well. I mean, you set it in your video,

607
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: but like I have a widows peak, and so if

608
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: I have a middle part, it's and one. Banks are

609
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: always a mistake. Curtain banks you're after getting it like

610
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: or sure, so like I've never once gotten banks and gone,

611
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: you know what I need to get these again? Yeah,

612
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: I with you. I even go so far to stay

613
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: to my hair dresser when I bring it up to

614
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: in a year say it's a hard note. Yeah, exactly.

615
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: Inevitably I bring it up. Listen. I think that we

616
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: should always just like take into consideration our own face shapes,

617
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: our own like what body shape, and you always dress

618
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: for your body, and like you kind of got to

619
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: ignore trends, trends or fund for if you want to

620
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: try something new, then I think don't spend a lot

621
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: of money on a trend, but I think in general

622
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: women should just always dress for their body shape, and

623
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: a high waisted jeane is the only thing I'm wearing

624
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: since having babies that i'd probably till the end of time.

625
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: High gene is is my life. I mean, granted, I

626
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: haven't worn anything with buttons and months, but I don't

627
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: wear jeans without stretch. And I think a lot of

628
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: the problem with the mom jeans is a lot of

629
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: them are more legit um and I prefer to it's

630
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: just more comfortable. It's actually the older you get just

631
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: to have a little movement in the gene. Right. Yeah,

632
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: I think we're all pretty aware of what we look

633
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: and feel best in. We kind of have to go

634
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: with that. But I can't believe some of the other

635
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: things that are supposedly out as well. All black everything

636
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: is out. Well, then I'm a percent out who said that? Yeah, well,

637
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I see a whole thing fashion trends.

638
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: Everyone ditch. I'm like everyone but Teddy and the others

639
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: on Teddy t Pond. Oh my god, good to know

640
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: unky sneakers out, which I'm fine with. I love a

641
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: funky sneaker. I was so late to the game on though,

642
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: that I just bought him. I'm not throwing him away yet.

643
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: I just got it, a little tag thing on that

644
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: like all the cool kids do, all the off white ones,

645
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: and I got a little star glitter on them. I mean,

646
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: I like them. It just makes me feel again, Well,

647
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: who's wearing heels right now? With a pandemic? Right and

648
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: fit the bill? Thank you what she said? The Neon

649
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: Active where friend ran its sports, I still have it

650
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: all Alo's still producing it. I'm purchasing it like I'm

651
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: not done with it. And what do you guys think

652
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: on that? Well, I love anything pink, So for me,

653
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: I found these really cool vintage hot pink track pants

654
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: when I was walking down Ventura Boulevard one day and

655
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: they were bright and I got them and they're probably supergated,

656
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: but I love them. I I gotta really look good

657
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: in it. I mean, it's got to be something that

658
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: makes me look real good because I know that once

659
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: I put it on, all these eyes are gonna be

660
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: on me. So if I don't look like an eleven,

661
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: I don't want to. You're a thing that is a

662
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: concern to me. Is you guys did this cute video?

663
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: Was funny? You're talking about mom jeans, You're talking about

664
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: curtain bangs, blah blah blah. But the comments that I've

665
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: read are like people got angry. People are like, don't

666
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: uh you look so much younger with that part middle

667
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: part and baggy jeans look good on pol That was

668
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: a compliment, but like just where what you like hair

669
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: and clothes? Exlamation point like why do you have so

670
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: much great fine? If you have fun? Do a zig

671
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: zog a zig zag part. It's like, I mean, yeah,

672
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: have so many opinions in regards to how we dress,

673
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: how we look, what makes us feel the best? Why

674
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: is that? Why do we listen? I think it's struck

675
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: a nerve with a lot of people. Listen. We know

676
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: that we live in a pretty ageist society and world

677
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: where youth is revered, and so I think when people

678
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: are sort of poking them at like whoa you're what

679
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: you're doing is making you seem older? I think it

680
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: just it uh offend it a lot of people and

681
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: it struck a nerve with them. And actually another thought is,

682
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: if you think about it, I think a lot of

683
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: times we actually dressed for women right for other women

684
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: to compliment us, to say something nice. So I think

685
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: if you looked at the majority of the compliments and

686
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: the comments and the negative statements, it was largely female.

687
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: Was almost yeah. So I think that's interesting because you know,

688
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: a lot of times, what we think looks good and

689
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: super stylish, there's no way guys gonna think it looks hot, right,

690
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: it's gonna be our friends like, oh, the sunglasses which

691
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: are so big, looks so cheat. Whereas my says used

692
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: to say to me, you should only wear in aviators.

693
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw your glasses away. It's a woman who

694
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: wear oh teddy. And I have already vented about this earlier.

695
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: People like, what is happening that anytime we think we

696
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: look our best, our husbands are like mad, yeah, when

697
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: we're when we're at our worst, they're compliments central. But

698
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's really about like chasing youth

699
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: they're wanting to be a millennial or any of those

700
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: types of things. I think women want to dress and

701
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: what they what they their best foot forward and whatever

702
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: is gonna make them feel most confident. And I don't

703
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: know that it's necessarily an age thing, Like I'm definitely

704
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: not gonna like wear those thick socks and over my

705
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: sweatpants and like try to do all that because it's

706
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: not who I am in general. But it's not because

707
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm too old to do it. Oh,

708
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: I have things I feel like I'm too old to do. Well,

709
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 1: what about gene shorts. I still works out. I love

710
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: my Gene shorts, and I am pushing fifty, So I

711
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: think there is some real concern when I show but

712
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: my kids football game and I'm in my gene shorts.

713
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: So do we think that that's something that should be

714
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: kind of put away as we tip the scale on

715
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: age we're older than do you guys want to know

716
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: an embarrassing story regarding gene shorts. So when I first yes,

717
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: audition not audition my taste for housewives, I wore these

718
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: old booty Geane shorts because I was like I want

719
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: to get you know, I was like trying to cause

720
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: a stir, and I was like, I'm gonna wear these

721
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: ridiculous platforms and Jane shorts while I'm taking care of

722
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: my kids to like make a splash, like this is

723
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: just for the you know, the original tat right. They

724
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: used it in my first episode. Really so you made

725
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: your statement. Then it worked. Oh like it worked. The

726
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: bottom of my butt crack was almost hanging out, that's

727
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: how short. Like. I was like, this is a situation

728
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: like why did and that from that day and I

729
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'm no longer going to like I'm out.

730
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm out. You warn them sins they don't fit anymore. Okay,

731
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: But like Jene, shorts like to run out on us,

732
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: I guess, but on vacation, like it's going to be

733
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: each or to the pool. I'm not anti gene shorts.

734
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: It just depends on the style. Uh yeah, I don't

735
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: necessarily love like the booty booty short ones like Teddy

736
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: was describing she wore with her platforms. We need to

737
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: see that. We gotta go back and look at that now.

738
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: But I'm not I'm not anti them, especially in l

739
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: A because it's just such a beautiful weather year round

740
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: that I feel like you gotta have variety in your closets.

741
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: So you've got to have some shorts, you know, because

742
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: it gets hot. It also depends how you're wearing on top. Two, Yes,

743
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: you gotta keep it chic. If you were like a

744
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: button up, a nice like loose button up. I think

745
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: that's hot. I don't think it's so much about age

746
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: as much of like we all know our bodies and

747
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: what looks best on our own bodies so we feel

748
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: more comfortable. And so for example, you know back in

749
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: the day, I used to wear really low waisted jeans.

750
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: You probably even know Frankie Beet. They were these amazing

751
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: lo lo lo jeans. Well, there's no version where I

752
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: I wasted all the way hold it in like it's so.

753
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: I think it also has specifually agree And where do

754
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: people watch this video of you so that we can

755
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: all go down the same exact rabbit hole that I

756
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: did where I had to google the best mom Jean wretch.

757
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: Can I start parting my hair back into the center,

758
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: like what's your TikTok names? It's called um like love lose.

759
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: So it started like what we like, what we love,

760
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: and what we're gonna lose. And the lose is always

761
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: like dry January, Dry January, all your Apple subscriptions that

762
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: you're over paying for. It's Oh, it was really more

763
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: entertainment for us as we're sitting here during this pandemic yeah,

764
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: I love it. Guys for um joining us. And next

765
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: when everything opens back up, we gotta get the Ladies Center.

766
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: We'll I'll have some drinks. Sounds good. Thanks for having us. Alrighty,

767
00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: thank you guys. Hi Hi, all right Charres. Uh So

768
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: now that it's just us, what are we going to

769
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: close out talking about? Well, I think we should start

770
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: with Wendy, did you watch I watched the movie. I

771
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: didn't watched the Lifetime movie, not the documentary. Yes, I

772
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: haven't got a chance to see the documentary yet, but

773
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: the Lifetime movie was good. I didn't watch the Lifetime movie.

774
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: I watched the documentary. Right, this is perfect, This is perfect.

775
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: But like, okay, so these are the things that we know. Alright,

776
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: one like power to her for for doing this, but

777
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: like there was something like she was on a Chase

778
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: lounge for the entire time during the documentary with like

779
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: leg compression, like things on, like maybe drinking a glass

780
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: of shapp like it was okay, was like not what

781
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: I was ready for in regards to like where you're

782
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: gonna like share all of your deepest darkness. She is

783
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: definitely not afraid to share. Did she just go there?

784
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: Did she and she shared everything. I mean, there was

785
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: some parts that were a little bit fuzzy to me,

786
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: Like she went into like a treatment center, Like remember

787
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: when she fathed on her show, Um, but then she said,

788
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not in It was kind of bs

789
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: being there because I'm not an addict and so stuff

790
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: like that. So she shared that. So but like I

791
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: kind of wanted more info on the show. I'm leaving

792
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. But she did share a lot

793
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: about her her childhood and like she's had like weight

794
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: issues her whole life. Her parents don't sound so nice.

795
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean her her parents like creating

796
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: like an eating disorder at a young age and all

797
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: the types of things. So that was definitely hard to watch.

798
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: But then there were parts that I watched that like

799
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: showed her when she was working at the radio stations

800
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: and she was saying things like, you know, I had

801
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: to do coke five nights a week because I worked

802
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: the night you know, like all. But she's just so

803
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,240
Speaker 1: matter of fact about it, and you're just like wow, Um,

804
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: But she did this interview with Whitney Houston where you're like,

805
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: only Wendy could have gotten this in her interview. Oh,

806
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: I remember that. Um, she is definitely the one thing

807
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: that take away is just like she's a hustler. She

808
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: believes in herself and she really even though she was

809
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: married to Kevin, it sounds like she just did everything

810
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: by herself for herself, like with no help of anybody.

811
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: And yeah, she took a weird path to get there,

812
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: but man, her hustle is so admirable. Like I just

813
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: walk away and I think, like, I don't know, it's different.

814
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: She's definitely made her her money in her name off

815
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: of like a scandalous way of being the girl that

816
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: like she's revolutionary whenever she started like telling everybody's gossip

817
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: and now it's like everybody does that. You know, everybody

818
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: talks about everybody's gossip. We talk about everyone's gossip. Yeah, exactly.

819
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: And so I mean she definitely started this whole thing

820
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: that she deserves a lot of credit for. Um. But then,

821
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: as with all these people that become super famous, do

822
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: you just leave feeling like, at least with the film,

823
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: I did, it just felt sad. I felt sad at

824
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: the end, and I think that that is the hard thing.

825
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: And I watched this other movie last time, the other

826
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: documentary called fake famous about influencers, and it's not the same.

827
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: But there's something that's tied to fame, that is tied

828
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: to being in the public eye. But no matter how

829
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: authentic and how straightforward, and no matter how you can be,

830
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: it can really suck you up and chew you up

831
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: and honestly break your heart. Well tell me, because you

832
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 1: grew up not with a famous father, but you didn't

833
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: necessarily spend all your time in l a and in

834
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: the front forefront. Do you still were able to have

835
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: a very normal childhood? But then you know, your life

836
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: dramatically probably changed obviously after Real Housewives? And ye, did

837
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: it feel like it changed? I think it didn't. Do

838
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: you feel lonelier or do you feel more fair? It

839
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: really comes in waves. Um. I think that because there

840
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: was when I came out here. I came out here

841
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be an actress, and I had

842
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: all these big dreams and they were crushed like right

843
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: at the beginning. I mean, I I've told this story before,

844
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: but like I went in on an addition and I

845
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: they said, I count the call back, and then before

846
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: the callback they called the manager and they said, like,

847
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: you need to lose weight. If we're going to hire you,

848
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Speaker 1: and I just remember having so much like I'm done

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Speaker 1: with this. I don't ever want to put myself in

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Speaker 1: the public eye again. And then you know, twenty years

851
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: later or whatever it was, Housewives presented itself to me,

852
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: and it there were parts that were really fun and

853
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Speaker 1: great about it. But you know, I'm seeing there all

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Speaker 1: away on their trip right now, and I'm I know

855
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 1: what those trips are, and I know that are good.

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00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: That is, I know we have some fun. But you know,

857
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: when you're on those trips, just like you are NonStop

858
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Speaker 1: seven and it is rude. And me sitting here is

859
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Speaker 1: like last night, I'm cuddled up with my kids watching

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Speaker 1: Cobra Kai, thinking, gosh, I don't have to try to

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00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: spark a ton of drup, you know, like I don't

862
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: have I don't have to come for someone right now.

863
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: Like and I'm not saying that it's made up, but

864
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Speaker 1: like when you live your life in front of the

865
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Speaker 1: public eye and you have to feel your full emotions

866
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: were like in your day to day life, you don't

867
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Speaker 1: necessarily have to do that. Like I can get annoyed

868
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 1: by stuff or annoyed by a friend and go whatever,

869
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Speaker 1: because I don't have a camera watching me. Such a

870
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: good point, like you can, yeah, but whenever, that's what

871
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 1: makes a good reality show. You have to like every

872
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: little thing that maybe just kind of annoys you, and

873
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: that and an everyday person like at me, like my

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00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 1: husband does something that pisses me off, and I probably

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Speaker 1: will just like whatever, stupid under the ruck, I'll deal

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00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: with it tomorrow or I'll just let it go. You

877
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: can't because if you don't confront it with or a

878
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: friend or a spouse, then you're missing a moment that

879
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: could be making compellite television. When you have compelling television,

880
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: you have high ratings, When you have hire ratings, do

881
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: you get high checks? It's a job, you know. It

882
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: all comes back down into a big circle. So I mean,

883
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: it really is. It's an internal struggle because you and

884
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: I you you know you want something. I know I

885
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: want something else. I know that I want I want

886
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: to be able to authentically be who I am and

887
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: not live one foot in one ft out if that

888
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: makes any sense on the life that I actually live.

889
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: But I don't know what it is. And so I

890
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: think that coming through that is something that's There's been

891
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: hard days, but I don't know if it's because the

892
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: Housewives or because of a childhood dream that I've always had. Yeah,

893
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: and like touch it, but not in the way you

894
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: originally wanted to touch it, and you still trying to

895
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: figure out what exactly that dream is now. Trust me, God,

896
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 1: I feel very I connect with you on that because

897
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: you have these things that you think you're gonna do

898
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: and you don't know. But then you grow and you

899
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: and you have experiences on television or whatever ever, as

900
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: Wendy did in different ways, and you realize, like, maybe

901
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: that's not as glamorous as I thought I was going

902
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: to be, or maybe that's not exactly what I thought

903
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to do. Now I'm older, I'm wiser, and

904
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: also have children now, so my priorities are different. You know,

905
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: maybe I don't want to always be in l A

906
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: like all these commons, these conversations are constantly going on

907
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: in your head. Um, sorry, I don't know how I

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00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: turned that correct. It's even a good place to like

909
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: kind of end on. But I think that that is

910
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: a huge I think as kids, I kind of thought

911
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: that you were gonna I was gonna grow up and

912
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: then I would make this decision for my life and

913
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: that was gonna write life exactly that every single year

914
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna want to push for more. That complacency

915
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: was is where I'm my most unhappy. Like that I

916
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: have to continue like pushing, pushing my boundaries, figuring out

917
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: what I want X, trying to fight for things, being rejected.

918
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: All of those things are part of what makes us

919
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: who we are and better at what we do. Exactly right,

920
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: and you're totally right. You think when you're young that

921
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna have one job and you're going to do

922
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: that till you retire, and then you're gonna vacation and

923
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: travel with your husband and what your kids are growing

924
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: and have grand babies like you have this picture, but

925
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel like the hustle number. And then

926
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a hustle baby. Yeah, Now when can

927
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: we be as rich as Wendy Williams? Uh? It's pretty nice?

928
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Speaker 1: Where's I can talk to you? Brout ours? Thank you? Joining? Um?

929
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: I hope that we can come on and do this

930
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: together against I would love to. I love chatting with you.

931
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Speaker 1: Where do our tea potters find you? Um? You can

932
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: find on Instagram cares a co owner, and you can

933
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: watch Daily Pop. It's live every day at eleven am.

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