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Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome home.

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Speaker 3: You guys.

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Speaker 1: This is episode fifty three of Native Land Pod. The

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Speaker 1: last time you saw us it was election night. So

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Speaker 1: this is our first show after the election. And in

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Speaker 1: the spirit of everything that you guys are feeling and

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Speaker 1: that we're feeling, we're going to jump right into the

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Speaker 1: show today. It's been quite quite a few days, guys,

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Speaker 1: so curious what we're going to talk about today, Angela,

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Speaker 1: I will kick it off with you.

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Speaker 4: I want to talk about the stage of grief that

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Speaker 4: we might all be at. I'm sure they're different. And

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Speaker 4: I also want to talk about the incoming appointments from

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Speaker 4: the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: I'm eager to talk about that, Andrew, because I know

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Speaker 1: you have a lot of insight on Miss Susie Wild's

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Speaker 1: the incoming chief of staff.

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Speaker 3: So but what else did you want to talk about us?

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Speaker 5: To be said, So first off, welcome home everybody, and

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Speaker 5: we appreciate y'all joining us again. And speaking of stages

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Speaker 5: of grief, I got my all black and Tiffany just

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Speaker 5: for you button directly to the top.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to talk about, which I think is

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Speaker 1: in line with everything you guys are saying.

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Speaker 3: What do we do now? What is the path forward? Essentially?

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Speaker 3: So with that, let's get into the show.

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Speaker 4: Hi native Lampod family.

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Speaker 6: So I am from the state of Illinois and we

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Speaker 6: went blue. So I felt like we understood the assignment

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Speaker 6: as far as elections go. My question is, how do

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Speaker 6: we grapple with the reality of what just happened? I mean,

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Speaker 6: America chose someone who is racist, a bigot, a felon,

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Speaker 6: and willingly voted to put him back into the highest

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Speaker 6: office of the land. I, for the life of me,

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Speaker 6: cannot understand how that happened. And I can't understand people,

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Speaker 6: even some in my own family, justifying that decision. It

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Speaker 6: makes no sense to me. The Republicans could have put

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Speaker 6: anyone up to be elected, anybody, but they chose him.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: How do we grapple with what just happened? And I

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Speaker 1: think that's what we spent the last week trying to do.

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Speaker 1: So Andrew, how do we grapple?

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Speaker 5: Well, one, it's individual. Each of us have our own

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Speaker 5: ways of getting through this. I got to tell you

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Speaker 5: it was I'll confess my coping was bad. I spent

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Speaker 5: more days in it than I would like to admit,

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Speaker 5: mostly because I didn't want to watch anything serious. I

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Speaker 5: didn't want to read anything serious. I didn't want to

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Speaker 5: believe what the country again had done. And then the

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Speaker 5: last few days I kind of dived directly in trying

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Speaker 5: to understand it and to be curious. I saw aoc

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Speaker 5: post on that Congresswoman Ocasio Cortez out of New York

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Speaker 5: who basically went to Instagram and said, Hey, can y'all

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Speaker 5: help me understand? And she did, And I thought, in

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Speaker 5: a very sincere and genuine way, how is it that

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Speaker 5: you could vote for me or other and other Democrats

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Speaker 5: down ballot, but then select Donald Trump at the top

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Speaker 5: of the ballot. What are the things that you find

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Speaker 5: that we share in common. I bring this up, Tiff

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Speaker 5: and Angela because while this is completely non scientific, and

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Speaker 5: by the way, the graphic that we are showing, for

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Speaker 5: those of you who are watching and for those of

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Speaker 5: you listening, I'll just describe it MSNBC Michel Norris, a

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Speaker 5: new contributor there, sort of abbreviate it. Some of the

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Speaker 5: statements that people were posting back to her Instagram around

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Speaker 5: what do democrats that you voted for, like me and

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Speaker 5: Trump have in common that will cause you to split

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Speaker 5: the ballot. Some of the responses were, it's real, simple Trump,

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Speaker 5: and you care about the working class. Someone else said,

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Speaker 5: but wanted to change, so I went with Trump and

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Speaker 5: blew for the rest of the ballot to put some

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Speaker 5: breaks on them. Voted Trump, but I like you and Bernie.

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Speaker 5: I don't trust either party establishment politicians. And it said also,

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Speaker 5: I feel like Trump and you are both real and

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Speaker 5: I think you know all of it. It strikes us

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Speaker 5: all differently. The way in which Sean Trump shows up

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Speaker 5: great alarm. Some people may not remember what his first

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Speaker 5: term was, like the million people who died in the

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Speaker 5: wake of his mishandling of COVID, his erraticism, his assault

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Speaker 5: on protesters, and turning the military on them so that

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Speaker 5: just didn't dive in because they got a check that

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Speaker 5: had his name on it, even though it came from

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Speaker 5: the US government made available to them by the Democrats

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Speaker 5: and control of the Congress. Whatever it is that allows

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Speaker 5: you to missed over the overwhelming reg you know, sort

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Speaker 5: of disqualifiers for the Office of the Presidency. People were

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Speaker 5: able to miss over it and find their own reasons

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Speaker 5: for why they could stick with him. And I know

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Speaker 5: we'll get into all of that, but I would just

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Speaker 5: say to the viewer, the listener who posed the question,

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Speaker 5: I think this is going to be a much more

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Speaker 5: complicated answer, and we won't be able to answer it

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Speaker 5: today and maybe in the next few weeks or in

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Speaker 5: the coming years, but I don't think we're going to

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Speaker 5: be able to resolve this thing simply on the question

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Speaker 5: of race and gender alone. And if we want to

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Speaker 5: understand it better, we're gonna have to be willing to

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Speaker 5: dig in, ask some tough questions, find ourselves in some

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Speaker 5: uncomfortable places. And I don't mean for the unreachable folks.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about for the people who are similar to us,

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Speaker 5: grew up similar to us, have the likeness in so

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Speaker 5: many ways, but somehow reasoned themselves into a different choice

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Speaker 5: this time. I'm curious at this stage, still a little

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Speaker 5: bit angry, but my advice would be feel what you

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Speaker 5: need to feel. And I can't even imagine for black

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Speaker 5: women who poured out so much of themselves just how

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Speaker 5: badly this cuts. But I just want you to know

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Speaker 5: that it cuts pretty badly for a lot of men,

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Speaker 5: myself included as well.

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Speaker 2: Andrew.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with your point about

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Speaker 1: going beyond race and gender, but we'll get into that later.

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Speaker 1: Because Angel I feel like you and I talked the most,

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Speaker 1: probably since election, and the grief is so heavy.

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Speaker 3: How's your heart? But what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 5: Also?

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Speaker 4: So a few things. One is I was hoping that

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Speaker 4: we could kind of succinctly go through like the stages

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Speaker 4: of grief because they have been so extreme, and I

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Speaker 4: think that there's so many people at home, including just

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Speaker 4: based on that question, who can relate to that. But

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Speaker 4: I have vacillated. I haven't had it clean cut to

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Speaker 4: each stage. I've gone from deep sadness and depression. Like

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Speaker 4: Andrew mentioned, I was waking up in the middle of

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Speaker 4: the night going pop, like is this real? Like thinking

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Speaker 4: it was like a Groundhog's day moment. I thought this

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Speaker 4: was going to play out differently because Joy and Brittany

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Speaker 4: and I prayed the day before the election this time,

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Speaker 4: like what happened, and I still ended up having to

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Speaker 4: through Denio, which was like, Okay, clearly this thing was stolen.

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Speaker 4: Who did he still votes from last time he was

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Speaker 4: looking for votes, So clearly he must have found the votes.

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Speaker 4: Elon could get on people's phones and text him about

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Speaker 4: cotton they need to be picking. Surely he could figure

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Speaker 4: out a way to be negotiating with these various precinct

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Speaker 4: officials in states to figure this out. And then I

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Speaker 4: talked to campaign staff who shall remain nameless, and the

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Speaker 4: rage that I feel for these and the things that

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Speaker 4: the ways in which Andrew we saw this play out

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Speaker 4: in your election. I'm angry now and I'm sad because

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Speaker 4: I will be damned if they rest this at the

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Speaker 4: feet of Kamala de Harris. The stuff that needs to

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Speaker 4: be overturned and changed up and ended is astounding, Like

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Speaker 4: my mind is frankly blown. Like the level of surprise

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Speaker 4: am still vacillating between the various stages of grief. What

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Speaker 4: There are a lot of internal conversations to be had

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Speaker 4: even ready to have because of the deep betrayal I

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Speaker 4: feel by this country and the deep, deep betrayal that

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Speaker 4: I feel for a party that I think regularly takes

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Speaker 4: the conversation that I want to have. It just ain't right.

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Speaker 1: Just quickly, what are the stages of grief? You said,

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Speaker 1: deep sadness, anger.

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Speaker 4: I said deep sadness. I said denial. T well, I

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Speaker 4: expressed denial, but I didn't name denial. And then I

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Speaker 4: talked about rage. At some point, there's acceptance. I ain't

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Speaker 4: accepted nothing yet, you know.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you, guys, I did not after the election.

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Speaker 1: I did not watch the news. I couldn't. So to

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Speaker 1: this day, I have not seen Donald Trump's speech from

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Speaker 1: I just re emerged. I didn't read a paper. I

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Speaker 1: past few days it's really hit me. I'll say the

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Speaker 1: first few days after election, I wept every day, every

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: We had a lot of conversations with people, and I

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Speaker 1: of course talking to other black women and what we

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Speaker 1: sad to your point, Andrew, talking to men. I talked

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Speaker 1: the questions I asked, how do you look at young

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Speaker 1: I think I've just been deeply sad. I've not wanted

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Speaker 1: just to be honest with you, this is hard because

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Speaker 1: we all know some of these people. But I just thought,

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Speaker 1: and normalizing all the plans that he had, or normalizing

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Speaker 1: his cabinet picks, all those things. It just it just

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Speaker 1: the question of if you are someone who wants to

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Speaker 1: make change to your point, Angela about talking to the staff,

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Speaker 1: as a reporter, you as a journalist hosting a show,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather you talk to us about the real, live

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Speaker 1: ass consequences that will have on the American people.

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Speaker 5: We agree, But those are two separate things.

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Speaker 3: But you're saying. But part of what you're saying suggest

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Speaker 3: that this is all normal.

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Speaker 5: Well, don't let me. Don't let me because I can say,

442
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Speaker 5: I can say things.

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Speaker 4: Well say it more clearly, because that's what it sounded

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Speaker 4: like to me.

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Speaker 5: No. No, So ceremony is one thing. These are ceremonies

446
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Speaker 5: that have been cultivated over a period of time that

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Speaker 5: don't inure any approval to this man's agenda. It doesn't,

448
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Speaker 5: It doesn't, It doesn't rubber stamp, sign off on or

449
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Speaker 5: agree with Elon Musk being not just a gatekeeper, watchkeeper,

450
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Speaker 5: but nowhere near the government of the United States.

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Speaker 4: Bin Laden sitting down in the old Office with the President,

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Speaker 4: what they have had were letting down with the president.

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Speaker 4: Can this man is a terrorist?

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Speaker 5: This isn't that that's not the point. All I'm saying

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Speaker 5: is we can go off the is.

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Speaker 4: The point we can.

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Speaker 3: Let me hear what you have to say.

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Speaker 5: You can go off the cliff and never ever ever

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Speaker 5: get power again. You can, you can, We can know

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Speaker 5: that isn't where we are because we haven't begun, he said, Angela, Angela,

461
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Speaker 5: you are smart. However, your wisdom does not supplant that

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Speaker 5: of all of the American people who went out and voted.

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Speaker 5: And unfortunately, I've had to subject myself to the same

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Speaker 5: damn thing. You don't think I'm hurt. I felt awful,

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Speaker 5: I felt humiliating, I'm gonna finish my point, and ashamed

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Speaker 5: that I had to call a guy and who I

467
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Speaker 5: don't respect, who I don't like in anything else, and

468
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Speaker 5: concede a race for governor. No, it didn't feel good.

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Speaker 5: It didn't feel good to Kamala either. She had she

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Speaker 5: had warned the country of what a fascist looked like,

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Speaker 5: and it was him in standing for him. Yet she

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Speaker 5: picked up the phone. She made the call because that's

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Speaker 5: what mature democracies do. Now, two things, we don't want

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Speaker 5: to conflate two different things. Do you think Kamala Harris

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Speaker 5: is rubber Stampton signed off on his policies.

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Speaker 4: I didn't check her, but it is no. I didn't

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Speaker 4: even bring this is why.

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Speaker 5: But you didn't. But I did not. I'm saying I

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Speaker 5: asked ques Angela, but I.

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Speaker 4: Did presidential nineteen sixty three and the whole office meeting

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Speaker 4: not being statutorily required. Again, that finish your finish her point,

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Speaker 4: because I don't want to be I don't want to

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Speaker 4: be labeled as saying something else. I didn't say anything

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Speaker 4: about yours. I say anything about it.

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Speaker 3: Think Andrew's making a different point.

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Speaker 4: So Andrew, it's not okay to say that I essentially,

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Speaker 4: but you can suggest, you can assign, you want.

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Speaker 5: To, can assign, you can assign. You can assign me

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Speaker 5: saying that the president should attend inauguration and host the

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Speaker 5: incoming president at the White House as being a rubber

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Speaker 5: stamp of Elon.

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Speaker 4: Musk said that I did not say anything about.

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Speaker 5: Me that point though. Let me give back to the

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Speaker 5: point if I could. The point is we can still

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Speaker 5: disagree with this man vehemently, and the fight still remains.

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Speaker 5: Him sitting down for an hour long coffee is not

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Speaker 5: what we are really taking issue with. What we are

498
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Speaker 5: really gonna be taking issue with is when he starts

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Speaker 5: lying people up in marth m out of this country,

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Speaker 5: when he comes in my neighborhood, for my children, from

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Speaker 5: my family, for my way of life. Those are the

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Speaker 5: fights and we have to give up. And to bring

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Speaker 5: us back to what the question was, it was how

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Speaker 5: we are going to strategize around our fight back against

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Speaker 5: this man. And I appreciated the brother mentioning the fact

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Speaker 5: that we can't just say we're gonna wait and see

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Speaker 5: what happens. Why because other people and other communities have

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Speaker 5: the privilege of wait and see. But for us, wait

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Speaker 5: and see what happens means immunity, for law enforcement officers

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Speaker 5: who then go out and slaughter our children. It means

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Speaker 5: food and food support programs not getting to the people

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Speaker 5: who need it most, and so on and so on

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Speaker 5: and so on. Those battles, I have no resignation on

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Speaker 5: any of them. We will fight those as they come

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Speaker 5: and before they get here. But we litigated the fact

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Speaker 5: that this man is a fascist. In the election, the

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Speaker 5: voters had the opportunity to consume that and make a

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Speaker 5: decision as to whether or not they cared. And we

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Speaker 5: don't get to supplant our knowledge, our will, our want

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Speaker 5: over a democratic practice like an election. That was my point,

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Speaker 5: and so certain.

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Speaker 4: Norms must have been an issue that wasn't an issue.

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Speaker 4: Certain norms some things when they're when things are not normal,

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Speaker 4: norms go out the window. And I appreciate your perspective.

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Speaker 4: I am not saying, nor have I ever said, that

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Speaker 4: my wisdom, my knowledge, my limited experience takes every single voter,

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Speaker 4: the millions, the millions of people that voted for Donald Trump,

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Speaker 4: or the millions of people that voted for Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to supplant any of that. What I'm

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Speaker 4: saying is there comes a time where we have to

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Speaker 4: question the pageantry and determine if the pageantry is worth

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Speaker 4: our credibility. That is what I'm asking. If we have

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Speaker 4: said this man is a fascist, if we have said

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Speaker 4: democracy is on the line, if we have said the

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Speaker 4: things that we know and have relied upon for government

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Speaker 4: support and programming will be no more, and we throw

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Speaker 4: all of that out the window so that Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: can skin and grin in a meeting with this man

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Speaker 4: who was mugging the camera. He's stilling character.

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Speaker 5: But do you think Joe Biden. Do you think Joe

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Speaker 5: Biden not.

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Speaker 4: Talking about what he wanted to do. I'm talking about

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Speaker 4: what he did. But what he did about what he

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Speaker 4: wanted to do.

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Speaker 5: About what he did was demonstrate not Joe Biden's personal

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Speaker 5: will toward Donald Trump, but the will and the graciousness

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Speaker 5: and the magnanimity of the office of president. And just

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Speaker 5: because one derelict, Donald Trump has no respect for democracies

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Speaker 5: in our norms, doesn't mean that we are then equal

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Speaker 5: by abandoning them right along with them.

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Speaker 4: I think that if he took an old I would

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Speaker 4: like for us to pull up the presidential oath well,

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Speaker 4: because I think that it's actually a violation of the

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Speaker 4: presidential to sit down and meet with this man.

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Speaker 3: I will, That's what I think. That that's an opinion,

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Speaker 3: but I think.

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Speaker 4: It is my opinion that said I think, Angela, I

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Speaker 4: hear you, Number one, cool, no need to shout.

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Speaker 3: I hear you, and.

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Speaker 4: I understand. I'm not I don't feel attacked, and I'm

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Speaker 4: not attacking any of my passion, Okay, I just want

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Speaker 4: to exchange everything, and I am also passionate.

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Speaker 5: Why I have siphoned off on occasion, Angela, you siphoned

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Speaker 5: off on occasion, Tiffany, you will siphon off on an occasion.

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Speaker 5: Because this is a highly charged moment. And I understand

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Speaker 5: that all of us are as have strong opinions about

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Speaker 5: how we feel.

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Speaker 1: I just want us to be respectful to each other's well, Andrew.

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Speaker 1: I hear your point, Angela, I hear your point. I

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Speaker 1: have something I have something to say about both, Andrew,

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about the agentry of it, I do

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Speaker 1: appreciate your perspective in maturity, because that is not something

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Speaker 1: that we saw in Donald Trump, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was giving very much Megan McCain on the View

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Speaker 1: all the time, where he would throw a temper tantrum

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Speaker 1: in front of a microphone, even folk post the election.

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Speaker 3: That is a challenge.

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Speaker 1: Angela asked a question that I think this deserves a

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Speaker 1: deeper answer to, and she was saying, would we invite

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Speaker 1: the Taliban in the Oval office? Well, this just shows

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Speaker 1: how the media and other people normalize what this man did,

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Speaker 1: because he did, in fact invite the Taliban to Camp David.

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Speaker 1: And So I think the concern in the anger and

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Speaker 1: worry and pain, all of those things is rooted in

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Speaker 1: what we experience, what we can easily recall and what

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Speaker 1: we know to be true that is coming, that is

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Speaker 1: awaiting us. Andrew, I hear your point. You're an institutionalist

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Speaker 1: and you have always champion in that on this show.

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Speaker 1: I think what Angela and I are saying is perhaps

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Speaker 1: it is time to disrupt those institutions, Like should we

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Speaker 1: be even the image of him being on that dais

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Speaker 1: on inauguration Day? What might that say to the world?

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Speaker 1: How might that normalize the fascism we're about to be

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Speaker 1: confronted with? So I I gotta say.

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Speaker 4: I agree with Angela that we should at least pose

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Speaker 4: this question. Just because it's been done all this time,

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Speaker 4: why does that mean it should continue to be done.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that it should be at this point.

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Speaker 4: I think this is beyond that there should be a

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Speaker 4: peaceful transition of power. But I think this is going

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Speaker 4: beyond a peaceful transition of power in terms of imagery.

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Speaker 5: But wed but just to statement, it has been done

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Speaker 5: every time except for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I know, but I think that is Angela's point

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Speaker 1: that he is the fascist, Like should we do it? Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: let's let's go would break and we'll pick that up

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Speaker 1: on the other side, we'll go to a break.

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Speaker 5: So and the I agree with you. I think we

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Speaker 5: have to. I don't believe in doing things for doing

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Speaker 5: things sake. I don't want to be I don't want

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Speaker 5: to make that argument. I think it is symbolically important

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Speaker 5: for the knowledge. Let's just start with the fact that

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Speaker 5: the campaign that decided we were going to run on

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Speaker 5: democracy can't then abandon the traditions, customs, rights, responsibilities, all

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Speaker 5: to appertaining to their offices even when they're on their

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Speaker 5: way out. And we have seen difficult transitions in the

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Speaker 5: history of this country before. I guess what those gentlemen

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Speaker 5: and well at for its day. I thought that I

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Speaker 5: thought that George Bush when he stole Florida, I thought

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Speaker 5: it was completely unconstitutional that this man should be taking office.

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Speaker 5: How do you get to take office as president and

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Speaker 5: a five for decision that then says at the end

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Speaker 5: of that decision, this is not for precedents, never to

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Speaker 5: be repeated, never to be referred to as president's setting. Right.

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Speaker 5: But it happened, and the sky did fall in some

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Speaker 5: places that I cared about. All I'm simply saying is

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Speaker 5: we do have to mount a fight. We do have

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Speaker 5: to push back on Donald Trump, But be over a coffee.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be over his It's gonna be over

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Speaker 5: his policies.

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Speaker 4: You guys, I don't know how to express this enough.

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Speaker 4: This is not about him having a coffee with Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden in the oval. This is about the image and

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Speaker 4: the signal it sends.

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Speaker 3: No, she's talking about what's going to happen inauguration.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not. I'm talking about even today because we

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Speaker 4: recorded this on Wednesday, him saying to Donald Trump, welcome back?

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Speaker 3: Is he welcome?

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Speaker 4: Why is he welcome? Why is what he stands for welcome?

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Speaker 4: Why does that have a place in the most sacred

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Speaker 4: place other than the capital that this nation says it built?

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Speaker 4: Like why is that the case?

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Speaker 5: Why?

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Speaker 4: Why is it that when democracy is on the line,

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Speaker 4: this is how we respond. It does not make sense

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Speaker 4: to me. I'm someone that doesn't do well in hypocrisy.

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Speaker 4: I can handle nuance. I don't do well in hypocrisy.

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Speaker 4: Either he's a fascist or he's not. Either he's a

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Speaker 4: terrorist or he's not. Either he's an insurrectionist or he's not.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter that he's bamboo, bamboozled and pulled the

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Speaker 4: wool over the eyes of many. We haven't even gotten

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Speaker 4: to the appointments, none of the appointments he's made, or

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Speaker 4: about the economy, which is why people said they voted

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Speaker 4: for him. So either we normalize it or we decide

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Speaker 4: this is the time not to normalize.

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Speaker 5: Once he can be a fascist and a racist and

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Speaker 5: a sexist and a misogynist and all those things, he

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Speaker 5: can also be the incoming president of the United States

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Speaker 5: who judgment.

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Speaker 4: White House is mar Lago, Like, why, but Andrew, you're

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Speaker 4: saying what I heard you say is Angela, it's a fight.

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Speaker 3: It's not the fight we should be having.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: I want to push back on that point because I

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Speaker 1: have to say I did not.

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Speaker 5: Now, by the way, I just don't think this particular thing.

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Speaker 3: I hear you with the president.

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Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, and and I think the

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Speaker 1: imagery though, Andrew, because when I did not hear Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden say welcome back, welcome back, yeah, which I would

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Speaker 1: have a challenge with that too. But Andrew, I have

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Speaker 1: to push back on this because by Joe Biden saying

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Speaker 1: that welcome back, what image does that? What message does

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Speaker 1: that sin to President Zelensky. What message does that send

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Speaker 1: to MODI of India? What messages does that send to

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Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin and Dmitri Medvedev? What message does that send

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Speaker 1: to Steimer? What messages does that send to Macron? It

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Speaker 1: is saying we are.

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Speaker 5: Legitimizing that democracy that unfortunately, that's not what Michelle Obama

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Speaker 5: and Barack Obama wanted to stand on them goddamn steps

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Speaker 5: after this is the man who made him, let me

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Speaker 5: made him pull.

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Speaker 4: Out something this is about.

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Speaker 3: But but are you're talking.

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Speaker 1: About something Andrewe let me just say this, you're talking

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Speaker 1: about eight years ago we didn't know, Yes, but.

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Speaker 4: He had record.

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Speaker 1: He had not tried to overthrow the government at that point.

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Speaker 1: He had not even come out and said he would

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Speaker 1: try to overthrow the government.

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Speaker 3: At that point, he had done.

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Speaker 1: He had raised he said, he he said, that's not what.

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Speaker 1: Let me just be factually for the listeners. What he

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Speaker 1: said exactly is if he shot somebody on Fifth Avenue,

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Speaker 1: people would still support him. And he was quoting somebody

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Speaker 1: who had written that. Let me just say, Andrew, yes,

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Speaker 1: So now we see that he's right. But what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying is in twoenty sixteen. There he was a racist.

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Speaker 1: He's not the first racist to occupy the White House.

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Speaker 1: He's a enophobe. He's not the first NFL to occupy

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Speaker 1: the exactly.

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Speaker 4: But he does not have a record as as the

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Speaker 4: lead and as the commander in chief, the executive orders

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Speaker 4: and actions he passed, the bills he signed, none of

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Speaker 4: that had happened yet. This was the first office he

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Speaker 4: was ever elected to.

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Speaker 5: Previously warned us in.

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Speaker 4: Twenty sixteen, and Phil jere.

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Speaker 5: Who he was, it still was all this stuff about.

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Speaker 5: She handed her a Tiffany's box. She welcomed her to

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Speaker 5: the White House. She decided record she was hard to

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Speaker 5: put her hair together. She was on the record she

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Speaker 5: was going to tighten her face, but she was going

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Speaker 5: to sit there and endure it for the country.

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Speaker 4: I don't I want to endure another It's not about inauguration.

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Speaker 6: This is not.

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Speaker 5: About this is why I'm saying. This isn't the fight

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Speaker 5: I should I'm saying we should have. This is what

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Speaker 5: people on the substance of what why.

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Speaker 4: His ass should not be welcome into the Oval? That

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Speaker 4: is the whole point made that decision. I don't care.

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Speaker 4: I don't care.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know what I write because I think, yes,

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Speaker 1: and Andrew, what you're saying is, yes, he's going to

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Speaker 1: be in the Oval.

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Speaker 3: We get that.

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Speaker 1: I think what Angela can correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: I think what Angela is saying is yes, if he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be in the Oval, that doesn't mean that we

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Speaker 1: have to roll out the red carpet for him. But

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Speaker 1: but but let me let me just say, Andrew, I

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Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna agree.

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Speaker 3: I think we disagree.

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Speaker 1: I think, out of respect for the viewers to tune

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Speaker 1: into this podcast every week, I would rather offer them

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Speaker 1: some information about why we all feel so passionate about

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Speaker 1: this and why we are all so concerned, and that

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Speaker 1: is his cabinet and what they intend to do. So

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Speaker 1: if y'all are okay with it, I'd like to get

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Speaker 1: into some of these appointees and why this creates such

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Speaker 1: an angst in my spirit, and that I don't think

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Speaker 1: with respect to the rest of the country. I don't

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Speaker 1: think the rest of the country has taken seriously. But

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Speaker 1: they they have fucked around and now we are on

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Speaker 1: the precipice of finding out. So let's Angela. I know

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Speaker 1: you pull some sound from the cabinet. Let's play that

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Speaker 1: and then argue over these crazy people, because that's who

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Speaker 1: were mad at. For the listeners, listening is an intense conversation.

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Speaker 1: We're not mad at each other.

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Speaker 4: We mad.

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Speaker 3: I am mad, and I'm mad.

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Speaker 4: I'm mad. I'm mad. I'm mad at more than just

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Speaker 4: this incoming cabinet. I'm mad at Joe Biden today for

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Speaker 4: sitting down with this man.

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Speaker 3: We are all mad.

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Speaker 1: I'm just letting the viewers know. We're not mad at

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Speaker 1: each other. We are mad at some of the things

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Speaker 1: y'all have said today.

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Speaker 4: That is just it. Hey, I think it's going to do.

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Speaker 1: But we're never It's not a personal argument with each other.

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Speaker 1: We just have different perspectives on how how to do things. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the cabinet, well, I know there is sound, but I Andrew,

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Speaker 1: I know that you have a lot to say about

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Speaker 1: Susie Wiles, who will be the first woman to serve

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Speaker 1: as chief of staff. But we haven't heard from from

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Speaker 1: the cabinet, and as I know, you pulled sound. So

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Speaker 1: do you want to kick us off with some sound?

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Speaker 4: I was getting ready to do that. Sure. So there

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Speaker 4: are a number of appointments that he is going to

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Speaker 4: make that he's planning to make Susie Wiles has already

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Speaker 4: been mentioned by Tiffany step Stephen Miller, who was recently

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Speaker 4: over America First Legal, is going to transition back into

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Speaker 4: the White House. And for those of you who don't

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Speaker 4: know about Stephen Miller, he will be Deputy White House

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Speaker 4: Chief of Staff for policy. You should look at some

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Speaker 4: of the things that he said and did in the

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Speaker 4: last term. Tom Holman, who is going to be the

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Speaker 4: borders are I think we should roll this clip. Is

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Speaker 4: there a way to carry out mass deportation without separating families?

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Speaker 9: Of course, families can be deported together.

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Speaker 8: Why should a child who is an American citizen have

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Speaker 8: to pack up and move to a country that they

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Speaker 8: don't know?

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Speaker 9: Could their parents absolutely enter the country illegally had a

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Speaker 9: child knowing he was in the country illegally, so he

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Speaker 9: created that crisis.

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Speaker 4: Okay, can I.

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Speaker 1: Say really quickly as I before you go on one.

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Speaker 1: I definitely have more to say about Tom Holman. I

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Speaker 1: watched sixty minutes as my Sunday tradition. I just want

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Speaker 1: us to be factually accurate because this moves so quickly,

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Speaker 1: we don't know for certain. It has just been reported

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Speaker 1: that Trump could potentially intend to name Stephen Miller as the.

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Speaker 3: Deputy chief of staff.

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Speaker 1: What we know factually as of the time of this

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Speaker 1: recording is he has publicly or his team has confirmed

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Speaker 1: Susie Wilds's chief of staff and thirteen or twelve additional

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Speaker 1: potential cabinet members. Then the rumors that you're hearing like

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Speaker 1: they have not come out and said that they've come

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Speaker 1: out and named me thirteen. I just want to make

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Speaker 1: sure that we're factually at it's a test balloon.

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Speaker 4: Next we expect Secretarious Day will be Senator Marco Rubio.

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Speaker 4: Let's roll that sound sat.

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Speaker 10: On the cot.

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Speaker 4: I want you guys to get this.

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Speaker 11: I want them to destroy every element of Hamas they

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Speaker 11: can get their hands on. These people are viscious animals

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Speaker 11: who did horrifying crimes, and I hope you guys post that.

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Speaker 5: What about the civilians?

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Speaker 4: Every day?

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Speaker 11: HAMASA stopped hiding behind civilians, putting civilians in the way.

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Speaker 11: Hamas knew that this was going to lead to this.

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Speaker 11: HAMASA stopped building their military installations underneath hospital.

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Speaker 5: So you don't care that fifteen thousand, You don't care

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Speaker 5: about the babies that are every day.

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Speaker 11: I think it's terrible, and I think Hamas is one

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Speaker 11: hundred percent to blame.

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Speaker 5: That's what I think.

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Speaker 11: Make sure you post that please.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say really quickly about Senator Marco Rubo,

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Speaker 1: Republican from Florida. Again, this is somebody I know, you

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Speaker 1: say he expects to name him. There's been significant pushback

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Speaker 1: from Republicans. There are that, and they his campaign have

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Speaker 1: come out and said they have not confirmed anything about

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Speaker 1: Marcro Rubio being Secretary of State. I think is going

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Speaker 1: to happen, but I just want to let folks know

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Speaker 1: that there is internal pushback against this happening, which is

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Speaker 1: why they haven't confirmed it.

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Speaker 4: John Ratcliffe is expected to be named CIA director. Let's

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Speaker 4: roll sound.

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Speaker 8: Do you actually believe that the Justice Department, given that

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Speaker 8: they were on the same team working together to get

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Speaker 8: Hunter the sweetheart deal, or actually investigating him for that.

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Speaker 10: I think we should all be skeptical of that. Katie. Look,

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Speaker 10: this is probably the most politically corrupt case I've ever seen.

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Speaker 10: I mean, what you're looking at here is where the

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Speaker 10: Department of Justice and the FBI investigators involved in this matter.

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Speaker 10: We're cutting off lines of inquiry into witnesses or access

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Speaker 10: to witnesses tipping off witnesses and lawyers about subpoenas. This

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Speaker 10: for Attorney General Merrick Garland, for Christopher Ray, for US

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Speaker 10: Attorney Weiss, I mean they all ought to be absolutely ashamed.

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Speaker 10: This is another huge black eye for the Department of

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Speaker 10: Justice and the FBI, and everyone should be skeptical.

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Speaker 5: When in fact, what no one had ever heard of

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Speaker 5: was a person in the US being prosecuted on the

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Speaker 5: crimes that they prosecuted, uh, mister Biden for never before.

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Speaker 4: Mike Huckabee is expected to be named Ambassador to Israel.

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Speaker 5: Let's roll that basically, I mean, there really is no

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Speaker 5: such thing as I have to be careful to say this,

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Speaker 5: because people.

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Speaker 4: House no such thing as a Palestinians American persons.

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Speaker 6: You don't.

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Speaker 5: It's such a complex either than that, there's really no

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Speaker 5: such thing. That's been a political tool to try to

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Speaker 5: force Land away from instrument.

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Speaker 4: Right Representative Right Representative Mike Waltz is supposed to be

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Speaker 4: named National Security Advisor. Representative Lee Zelden Environmental Protective Agency

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Speaker 4: Protection Agency Administrator A Least Tephonic is supposed to be

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Speaker 4: named US Ambassador to the United Nations. Let's please roll

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Speaker 4: that sound today.

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Speaker 12: This means crushing anti Semitism at home and supplying the

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Speaker 12: State of Israel with what it needs when it needs it,

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Speaker 12: without conditions, to achieve total victory in the face of evil.

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Speaker 4: Pete Hagsaith, who is a Fox News host an Army veteran,

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Speaker 4: is supposed to be named the Defense Secretary. Let's please

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Speaker 4: roll that sound.

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Speaker 13: The military cannot be organized like a Harvard faculty lounge,

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Speaker 13: catering to ever more obscure constituencies. Our key constituency is

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Speaker 13: normal men and women looking to be heroes and not victims.

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Speaker 13: We aren't a collection of a Greeb tribes. Meritocracy is

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Speaker 13: our bedrock. Lethality is our trademark. There is no black, white,

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Speaker 13: or brown in our ranks. We're all green, and we

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Speaker 13: all bleed red. Our strength is not in our diversity,

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Speaker 13: but in our unity and in our love for our nation,

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Speaker 13: our families, and most of all each other.

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Speaker 4: Christy Nauman is expected to be named the Department of

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Speaker 4: Homeland Security Secretary. Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami are supposed

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Speaker 4: to be over a new entity called the Department of

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Speaker 4: Government Efficiency. We just played some sound today. I encourage

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Speaker 4: you all to Google and look up sound for the

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Speaker 4: rest of these folks what they really think and whether

884
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Speaker 4: or now this is what you intended when you voted

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Speaker 4: for the economy. Every single one of these folks who

886
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Speaker 4: he's naming, who he's saying he intends to appoint to

887
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Speaker 4: these positions, have said very little about the economy so far,

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Speaker 4: and so I'm eager to see how your economics shake out.

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Speaker 1: Just want to add to that really quickly, Andrew, Steve

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Speaker 1: Whitcoff is expected to be named or his campaign has

891
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Speaker 1: confirmed they expect to name Steve Witcoff to be Special

892
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Speaker 1: Envoy to the Middle East, Mike Walt's National Security advisor,

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Speaker 1: and Bill McGinley to White House counsel And just echo

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Speaker 1: on your points that none of these people I feel comfortable.

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Speaker 3: With in having any kind of influence over the government.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 5: The I think the important piece, because obviously more and

898
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Speaker 5: more of this is going to develop over the next

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Speaker 5: coming days, is that these folks really do present a

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Speaker 5: total ideological shift from certainly what I believe, but largely

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Speaker 5: what we've experienced from most democratic leaders. I would just

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Speaker 5: note this. Mike Hucklebee, Governor Nome, the last guy, Defense

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Speaker 5: Guy sounds just like they're in the pack. Are described

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Speaker 5: as these sort of Christian Zionists who believe their support

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Speaker 5: for Israel is unmitigated because they believe it to be

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Speaker 5: biblical that that the Jewish people must reinhabit this territory

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Speaker 5: in order for the return of the Messiah. And so

908
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Speaker 5: when they say give them anything, whatever they need to do,

909
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Speaker 5: whatever they got to do to vanquish their foe, they

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Speaker 5: mean exactly that. In fact, I think you've had some

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Speaker 5: of these folks on record is basically not recognizing not Hamas,

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Speaker 5: but not recognizing the people of Gaza as human. I mean,

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Speaker 5: they treat them as subhuman. They don't think that these

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Speaker 5: folks deserve to live, breathe walk on the land as

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Speaker 5: we do. In the other correction, I would make a

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Speaker 5: Huckabee talked about the fact that these Palestinians were there

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Speaker 5: to take the land that rightly belonged before to the Jews,

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Speaker 5: And I just want to correct historically that Palestinians existed

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Speaker 5: on the land prior to the Jewish stay having been established.

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Speaker 5: And obviously this part of the world has been inhabited

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Speaker 5: by every major faith. In fact, I think every major

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Speaker 5: faith that is practiced in the world, has roots and

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Speaker 5: considers segments of the Western Wall, Western Wall and its

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Speaker 5: surrounding areas as their highest holy sites, among their highest

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Speaker 5: holy sites. So there is no one religion that claims

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Speaker 5: ownership of a total ownership of those lands, which is

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Speaker 5: why there's been complex negotiated agreements right to divide them

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Speaker 5: between them.

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Speaker 1: Want to get back into the cabinet for a second,

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Speaker 1: because some of the people that we named. Again, it's

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Speaker 1: hard when you're asking people to care about everything because

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Speaker 1: it ends up having an opposite effect and people don't

933
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Speaker 1: care about anything. But I don't think we can stress

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Speaker 1: enough the danger of having John Ratcliffe run the CIA.

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Speaker 3: Now this is you all.

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Speaker 1: For those of you who paid attention to politics, you'll

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Speaker 1: remember that he was Trump's DNI, the Director of National Intelligence,

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Speaker 1: and he faced numerous accusations about weaponizing intelligence to boost

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Speaker 1: Trump's political prospects. You may also remember that Trump had Kislyak,

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Speaker 1: the equivalent of a sect deaf in Russia. He had

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Speaker 1: him in the Oval Office. He uh gave away sensitive

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Speaker 1: secrets in the Oval Office.

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Speaker 3: So on the global.

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Speaker 1: Scale, this, uh, it should give us all pause, like

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Speaker 1: this is incredibly dangerous. Governor Mike Huckabee, the father of

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Speaker 1: Trump's first Press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, current governor of Arkansas.

947
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Speaker 1: We played his sound, but you could literally google anything

948
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Speaker 1: this guy has said. He's made numerous distasteful remarks. I

949
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Speaker 1: want to talk about the sect deaf pick for a minute,

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Speaker 1: Mister heg says, who, as Angela said, is a Fox

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Speaker 1: News host. He did serve in the Armed Forces. He

952
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Speaker 1: served in the army. He has zero experience running any organizations.

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Speaker 1: You are turning the one thing that gives us comfort

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Speaker 1: in these United States, because we have attracted a lot

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Speaker 1: of enemies, the one thing that gives us some level

956
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Speaker 1: of comfort and safety outside of our morals, because there

957
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Speaker 1: may be moral things that we take issue with, but

958
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Speaker 1: our military budget swallows that of pretty much the rest

959
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Speaker 1: of the globe. He is turning over the military to

960
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Speaker 1: a Fox News host who has never run any type

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Speaker 1: of organization. The same with Susan Wilds. She has worked

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Speaker 1: in local Florida politics, which is how you know her, Andrew,

963
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Speaker 1: but she has very little experience with the federal government.

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Speaker 1: That chief of staff position, you have to maneuver Capitol Hill,

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Speaker 1: the agencies. She's going to be learning on the job.

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Speaker 1: The potential sect f heg Seth has said he doesn't

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Speaker 1: believe women should serve in combat. He lacks any kind

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Speaker 1: of high level strategic experience that most normal presidents would

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Speaker 1: seek out of their cabinet appointees.

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Speaker 5: Christie believe in the military. Yes, was harmful and has

971
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Speaker 5: made us weaker. Yes, his statements.

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Speaker 1: Christy Noam is batshit crazy and actually wrote in her

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Speaker 1: book about shooting a puppy, her fourteen month old puppy.

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Speaker 1: And I say that to say, obviously I love dogs,

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Speaker 1: but I say that to say how hypocritical America is

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Speaker 1: because Americans mostly love dogs, and they celebrated this woman

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Speaker 1: who bragged about shooting her puppy. Instead, I've talked about

978
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Speaker 1: how much pleasure it gave her, how much she hated

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Speaker 1: the dog.

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Speaker 3: So again I don't know. Yeah, so I don't know what.

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Speaker 4: They did say that adversely impacted her ability to be

982
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Speaker 4: chosen as his running mate. But I will say that

983
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Speaker 4: this like this is what when you when they talk

984
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Speaker 4: about DEI, this is a DEI cabinet based on Republican standards. Yeah,

985
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Speaker 4: they didn't earn it. They don't have the capacity. Our

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Speaker 4: friend Alicia Garz would say, they lack the range. They

987
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Speaker 4: don't have the range, and they have no qualifications whatsoever

988
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Speaker 4: to serve in any of these roles, none of them.

989
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Speaker 4: And moreover, with whatever they're trying to do to get

990
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Speaker 4: like to pull the wool over the American people's eyes.

991
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Speaker 4: The folks that will now be granted access to sensitive

992
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Speaker 4: compartment fitted information facilities, the skiff in the White House,

993
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Speaker 4: they get their security clearances, they will be cleared by

994
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Speaker 4: a private firm. They will no longer have to go

995
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Speaker 4: through government clearance background checks to ensure that they should

996
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Speaker 4: be handling classified documents. The documents won't just be in

997
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 4: mar Lago, They'll be in backpacks, on planes and everywhere else.

998
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 4: We need to be talking about, not these resumes, because

999
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 4: there ain't no resumes here. We need to be talking

1000
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 4: about what this means for the American people. We have

1001
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Speaker 4: overwhelmingly heard an exit polls they y'all chose this candidate

1002
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Speaker 4: because of the economy. Tell me economy. Where out of

1003
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Speaker 4: all of these cabinet appointments, even the folks that are

1004
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Speaker 4: going into the White House, allegedly Stephen Miller, where has

1005
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 4: he ever talked about the economy? Where he cares about deportations.

1006
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 4: They want to send a signal. The first signal they

1007
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Speaker 4: want to send is mass deportations. What do y'all think

1008
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 4: that's going to do to your economy?

1009
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Speaker 1: Precisely, and I think we should dig into that. But

1010
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: what I'd like to talk about with you guys is,

1011
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: I guess my question is should we continue doing the show? So,

1012
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, Nativeland Pod launched with you know, a certain intention,

1013
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: and now I wonder what that intention is. So we'll

1014
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Speaker 1: go to a quick break, and on the other side

1015
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Speaker 1: of this, I think we should have a heart to

1016
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: heart about should we continue doing the show and if so,

1017
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: what it looks like. So we'll get into that on

1018
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: the other side of the break.

1019
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: Well come, well, come, well, come, well, come, well come, welcome.

1020
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Speaker 4: It.

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Speaker 5: Before you go into your finger question, I just wanted

1022
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 5: to mention as well that Elon Musk, aside from this

1023
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 5: government efficiency thing, and maybe they'll be maybe there'll be

1024
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Speaker 5: some slight benefit here in the fact that he now

1025
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Speaker 5: is going to expose himself to for you the ability

1026
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Speaker 5: to look more deeply into relationships, congressional oversights, so on

1027
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Speaker 5: and so forth. But I don't think it's a good

1028
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Speaker 5: thing to have made the government period. But I did

1029
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Speaker 5: want to mention another conflict, which I think is pretty significant,

1030
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Speaker 5: and that is right now, what you've already mentioned earlier, Tiffany,

1031
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 5: the number of contracts that he has with the federal

1032
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Speaker 5: government and those that he's in line to have. But

1033
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Speaker 5: he also, as part of the space program and his

1034
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Speaker 5: contracts with the Defense Department, privately owns these missile weapons

1035
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Speaker 5: defense systems. One of them is over Ukraine and it

1036
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Speaker 5: was previously operable, previously helped defend off missiles coming into

1037
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Speaker 5: Ukraine from Russia. And for the last year or so

1038
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Speaker 5: he is sold Russia and Vladimir I mean in a

1039
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Speaker 5: Zilinski that it is not working. He also owns a

1040
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Speaker 5: similar system over Taiwan, and we know that we've got

1041
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Speaker 5: conflict between Taiwan and mainland China. And what if Land

1042
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Speaker 5: Musk just decides, you know what, forget the Defense secretary.

1043
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Speaker 5: I can make US defense policy and global defense policy

1044
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Speaker 5: all on my own, because as a private citizen, I

1045
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Speaker 5: already owned the equipment turn off missile defense systems and

1046
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Speaker 5: turn them on. He was already reported to have kept

1047
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Speaker 5: up relationships with Vladimir Putin directly over these last several

1048
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Speaker 5: years and months, there ought to be alarm bells going

1049
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 5: off for Republicans, Democrats and everybody else who's in power

1050
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 5: and can hold this man accountable. And again, the voters

1051
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 5: have done what they've done, but there are still systems

1052
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Speaker 5: of accountability that have to that have to provide the

1053
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Speaker 5: proper checks and balances.

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Speaker 1: Well, has company SpaceX, I mean, they pretty much dictate

1055
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Speaker 1: NASA's space line schedule. And you've already talked about the

1056
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Speaker 1: satellites that he controls in orbit. Just imagine what that

1057
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Speaker 1: could mean. But I think this is gets into the

1058
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Speaker 1: question though, because you know, I just want to hear

1059
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Speaker 1: what y'all think about the show and continuing the show

1060
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: and what.

1061
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Speaker 3: It looks like.

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Speaker 1: I know, for me it's really really important to inform.

1063
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Speaker 1: I don't care as much about people's opinions, so I

1064
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Speaker 1: think if we continue to do this show, that's something

1065
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Speaker 1: that I would personally be committed to. I think, you know, sadly,

1066
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Speaker 1: what rises to the top a lot of times in

1067
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Speaker 1: the podcast space is mess and nonsense and you know,

1068
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Speaker 1: no dis to anybody but like club shayshe or like

1069
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Speaker 1: people who really don't know what they're talking about politically

1070
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Speaker 1: and so people gravitate to that. So I don't really

1071
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Speaker 1: care how many people listen to this podcast that podcast.

1072
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Speaker 1: I'd rather reach one hundred people who understand and get

1073
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Speaker 1: informed out of it than reach a million people in

1074
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Speaker 1: one viral moment, and people will still go back to

1075
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Speaker 1: the foolishness.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know how to make noise in.

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Speaker 1: A space where people don't really value intellect, And sometimes

1078
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Speaker 1: it feels like that's what I'm trying to do and

1079
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Speaker 1: it's it's frustrating. So for me, I'm having like a

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Speaker 1: career existential crisis in this moment, and that's what I'm

1081
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Speaker 1: considering as we move forward with what the show.

1082
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Speaker 5: Looks like and tif it is it fair to say

1083
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Speaker 5: part of what profers this question is that the environment

1084
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Speaker 5: is going to change radically. Our ability to influence upon

1085
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Speaker 5: the people who are making decisions that impact our everyday

1086
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Speaker 5: lives not only will be diminished in the way by

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Speaker 5: comparison to what it might look like where they're a

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Speaker 5: friendly or administration, but on top of that, the amount

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Speaker 5: of threat personal, bodily, economic, and otherwise that this incoming

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Speaker 5: administration has loud and proud already announced against people who

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Speaker 5: they consider to be enemy within is that who disagree,

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Speaker 5: people who don't like And also, how do we, honestly,

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Speaker 5: with real integrity, make sure that the value that's being

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Speaker 5: added here allows people to then take from it move

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Speaker 5: forward independently and coalition and groups with family and otherwise

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Speaker 5: to make a bad situation better by our having been here. Well,

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Speaker 5: and for me, I threw some of my own in there,

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Speaker 5: and I attributed the change in administration to be maybe

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Speaker 5: one part of the reason for the questioning.

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, but I just want to point out is

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Speaker 1: Cash Btel. Cash Btel, who is rumored to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: hanging out at mar Lago. According to the reporting, he

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Speaker 1: is being considered for a position in Trump's cabinet, and

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Speaker 1: he has said that they will go after members of

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Speaker 1: the media criminally and or civilly. I'm not scared of it,

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Speaker 1: to be honest. I think my question is as a

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Speaker 1: result of this man getting re elected and the reshaping

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Speaker 1: of American government, because it's not just the federal government.

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Speaker 1: It is the gubernatorials, it's the state houses, it's the mayors,

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Speaker 1: it's all across.

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Speaker 3: The Republicans took over.

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Speaker 1: Will people tune in and have a little more intellectual

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Speaker 1: curiosity than they do now, or will people tune out

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Speaker 1: and just say this is all too much and I'd

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Speaker 1: rather watch foolishness and nonsense and traffic and celebrity gossip

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Speaker 3: I mean for.

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Speaker 1: A few days, but after a while it's like I

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Speaker 1: got to get back in the game. And I think

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Speaker 1: a part of this election is because the dumbing down

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Speaker 1: of the American electorate. So a part of me is

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Speaker 1: like all I've ever known to do was was journalism.

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Speaker 1: Anything I did outside of that was in a communication.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people can make the transition from journalism

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Speaker 1: to comms. But when I look at it now, I

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Speaker 1: just I don't know where I fit in in this

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Speaker 1: media landscape anymore, or I really don't. That's an honest question,

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Speaker 1: but it's framed in a lot your conversation around the

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Speaker 1: vision for this show and what it looks like going forward.

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Speaker 5: Well, if I'll just offer that I believe that we

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Speaker 5: don't speak to everybody, certainly don't speak to everybody who

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Speaker 5: we would like to be speaking to. But I do

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Speaker 5: believe we have built a home for people who are

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Speaker 5: interested in government, interested in government's impact on their lives,

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Speaker 5: may not be able to follow or are interested in

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Speaker 5: even following all the nuance and the ins and outs

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Speaker 5: and the days and weeks of what's happening, but when

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Speaker 5: they know more, are exposed to more, or their positions

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Speaker 5: get challenged by maybe something they've heard in this platform,

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Speaker 5: either in the comments section of it, or by something

1141
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 5: that we've said or done or interacted with on the show.

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Speaker 5: That they then leave whatever place that they are at

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Speaker 5: and this conversation starts to build as they are in

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Speaker 5: community with their friends, families, co workers, so on and

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Speaker 5: so forth. So so, just like I think that there

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Speaker 5: are platforms radio shows, I'll the name Shake the Breakfast

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01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 5: Club as one, because you know, our Jay was reminding me.

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01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 5: She was telling me people were like, why did y'all

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Speaker 5: do a political show so political with you know, a

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Speaker 5: platform that is not as political and maybe I'm not

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01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 5: as interested in politics, And I said, I think that

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Speaker 5: in some ways it's the exact merger that has to happen,

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Speaker 5: where you get people who don't give a damn about

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Speaker 5: this thing on a day in, day out, and frankly

1155
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Speaker 5: maybe you on a year in and year out. But

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Speaker 5: part of not giving a damn might mean that nobody

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Speaker 5: has helped you to see how the decisions that are

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Speaker 5: being made right now, the people who are being put

1159
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Speaker 5: in place right now, will have inexplicable impact on your life,

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Speaker 5: your life of your family, the life of their children.

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Speaker 5: So I think we have to be clear that we

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Speaker 5: aren't talking to everybody and to at some level make

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Speaker 5: peace as we continue to grow and become hopefully a

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Speaker 5: real service to people, that folks will plug in, and

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Speaker 5: the ones who plug in then become the ambassadors for

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Speaker 5: the messages that they then have either heard or matured

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Speaker 5: on their own based off of the I think the

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Speaker 5: safe space has been created, so honestly, I got to

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Speaker 5: tell you, I think if there was ever a time

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Speaker 5: to be loud, proud, rowdy, come check me boo. I

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01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 5: heard that somewhere, it is now. Not when we have

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Speaker 5: friends in the administration necessarily, although that's help. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think let's let's strow it to the listeners and

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Speaker 5: let them tell us some of their thoughts on what

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Speaker 5: it looks like. I've never done that before like this,

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Speaker 5: but I do know that there's a big ass void

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Speaker 5: and we can no longer afford for that void to

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Speaker 5: get any bigger, any wider, because back to the earlier

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Speaker 5: question around what's the strategy going to be, this strategy

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Speaker 5: has to now become an in the house conversation because

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Speaker 5: we are losing quite a bit and the trajectory is

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Speaker 5: moving in the wrong direction from within the house. So

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Speaker 5: we got to secure this space, the space that allows

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Speaker 5: us to win elections before I think we, you know,

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Speaker 5: before we really find ourselves up at creek without a pedal,

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Speaker 5: because folks will have completely abandoned the process and given

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Speaker 5: up with no belief that any of this stuff works

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Speaker 5: for them. I mean, Angela, what do you you're ore?

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Speaker 5: You're the motherboard and the genius of the of the

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Speaker 5: of the idea. I know that today looks different than

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Speaker 5: it did the day we learned the nominee, But the

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Speaker 5: day we learned the nominee also looked different than the

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Speaker 5: first several weeks and months of this show, where you know,

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Speaker 5: we were all having fun going in and out of politics,

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Speaker 5: but also culture and also interpersonal and so on and

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Speaker 5: so forth. Where do you see things?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 4: I think, first, I really disagree on the idea that

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Speaker 4: we can't inform and have opinions I think that there

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Speaker 4: are people that tune into this show every week to

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01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 4: hear an educated opinion that is rooted in some type

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Speaker 4: of experience, whether that be you know, working on the

1203
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Speaker 4: hill or as a candidate, or tif you in journalism.

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Speaker 4: So I think that it would be unfortunate for us

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Speaker 4: to simply become c SPAN, right. I think that we

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Speaker 4: should have some color or some culture to continue and

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Speaker 4: what we share with the audience should we continue. I

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Speaker 4: think the idea of not talking to everyone is not

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Speaker 4: a smart strategy. I think that we should be trying

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Speaker 4: to figure out what basic arithmetic is by engaging in

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Speaker 4: the politics of addition and hopefully in multiple multiplication at

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Speaker 4: some point. And I think that we can do that

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Speaker 4: in truth by questioning things that should be questioned, by

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Speaker 4: asking and challenging things that normally folks are not rewarded

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Speaker 4: for challenging. But we are in a unique time period

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Speaker 4: in this country that is very, very dangerous. It's dangerous

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Speaker 4: just to speak up, let alone take action. And so

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Speaker 4: we got to decide if we have the wherewithal the bandwidth,

1219
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Speaker 4: the ability, and the desire to do that on this

1220
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Speaker 4: show or anywhere else. I'm going to engage in the fight.

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Speaker 4: I'm not engage in the fight on multiple fronts. I'd

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Speaker 4: be happy to do it with y'all, but I don't

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Speaker 4: want to do it in a way where it's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: we can't question what is the norm. I'm not interested

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Speaker 4: in doing that. I'm not because I think that is

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Speaker 4: a disservice to the American people and to ourselves. For

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Speaker 4: too long, I think black folks in particular in this

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Speaker 4: country have had to grin and bear it. And I

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Speaker 4: think those times are over. I think those times are

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Speaker 4: over within the Democratic Party itself. I think those times

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Speaker 4: are over within the country itself. And what you're starting

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Speaker 4: to see is the things that we're seeping out and

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Speaker 4: there was a slow drip. Now there's a damn that burst.

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Speaker 4: And so what is the opportunity within that process of

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Speaker 4: the bursting of the dam and truth really filing finally

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Speaker 4: spilling over in a way that you can't ignore anymore.

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Speaker 4: So I'd love to continue the conversation and figure out

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Speaker 4: if there is a path for native land that.

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Speaker 1: I just can I just really quickly make a point

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Speaker 1: of clarification, and that I always have opinions.

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Speaker 3: I I if.

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Speaker 1: Somebody and somebody if somebody heard me say that we

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Speaker 1: should not have opinions.

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Speaker 3: Let me correct the record. I'm not saying that at all.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying I don't care about most people's opinions. I

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Speaker 1: care about being informed, and that's what I try to do.

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Speaker 1: I think you can inform something that is wrapped in

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Speaker 1: an opinion. But I hear a lot of across a

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Speaker 1: lot of podcasts and cable news outlets of people just saying, well,

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Speaker 1: this is what I think about that, and I don't

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Speaker 1: really care if I didn't. If I can't walk away

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Speaker 1: and say, oh I learned something from this person or

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that this person introduced me to something,

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Speaker 1: then it does seem to be a waste of my time.

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Speaker 1: But there are other people out there who just like

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Speaker 1: the traffic and opinion. That's just not what I like

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Speaker 1: to do. So I think, you know, since the show

1258
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Speaker 1: has started, I've tried to root my opinions and information,

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Speaker 1: and I hope that when people listen to me and

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Speaker 1: listen to this podcast, they've walked away and they've learned

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Speaker 1: something from from each of us. My question, though, that

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Speaker 1: I think is rhetorical, is will people tune in for

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Speaker 1: that or are people going to be so exhausted with

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Speaker 1: all of it, because Trump is a nightmare. Will people

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Speaker 1: be so exhausted with all of this that they just say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm tuning out, like I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear. I don't want to get frustrated,

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Speaker 1: you know. I just want to exist in my own

1269
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Speaker 1: little box of reality and I don't want to hear

1270
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Speaker 1: what craziness this man has done.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what.

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Speaker 5: I think the history of us as a people is

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Speaker 5: that we've never had the comfort and convenience of checking in,

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Speaker 5: because that is a comfort, that is a convenience, a

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01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 5: privilege absolutely to say, oh, I ain't concerned about any

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Speaker 5: that until your life, in your children's lives, and the

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Speaker 5: people who you loves, lives quite literally are are at

1278
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Speaker 5: risk by the decisions that are being made on our

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Speaker 5: you know, on quote unquote on our behalf. I should

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Speaker 5: also just say, I know everybody thinks the sky has fallen,

1281
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Speaker 5: and in so many ways it is. But I also

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Speaker 5: want to remind us that over the arc of history

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Speaker 5: of us as a people, I'm so glad about the

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Speaker 5: ancestors who didn't choose to give up I'm so glad

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Speaker 5: that we can go back to the Transatlantic slave trade,

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Speaker 5: we can go back to the Civil War, pre Civil War.

1287
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Speaker 5: We can talk about all the blows we were dealt

1288
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 5: and had to get right back up. We can talk

1289
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Speaker 5: about doctor King being shunned by his own people, told

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Speaker 5: to get out and not be a troublemaker, and still persisted.

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Speaker 5: And not everybody was a part of the movement right

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Speaker 5: because it produced what it was intended to in some

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Speaker 5: parts produced. So I don't think I think I know

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Speaker 5: the answer to whether or not people are going to

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01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 5: check in now. They can get there, they can get

1296
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Speaker 5: their information from any variety Their opinions are any variety

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Speaker 5: of sources. That's all good with me. But what I

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Speaker 5: absolutely know for sure is that we're not quitters. The

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Speaker 5: times do get hard, but I know this for sure.

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Speaker 5: Those tough times don't last, but tough people absolutely do.

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Speaker 5: We had a schalacking in the election after Obama was

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Speaker 5: elected and we didn't think we would reclaim power. The

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Speaker 5: Republicans experienced the same to the whole goddamn autopsy. They

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Speaker 5: thought our party was dead, had to be rebuilt. But

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Speaker 5: in this case, our work is internal. I think we

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Speaker 5: should use every platform stance that we have to inform

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Speaker 5: that while we also fight like hell against this administration

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Speaker 5: on all forms and on all fronts, to the extent

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Speaker 5: that they are a threat to our existence, our lives,

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Speaker 5: our livelihood, and that voters. I believe that voters can

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Speaker 5: go in the voting booth and vote for a thing

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Speaker 5: that they believe they are being sold and still have

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Speaker 5: been bamboozled exactly.

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Speaker 4: And that's where our obligation comes in to make sure

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Speaker 4: they know how dangerous it is.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I want to I think it's a

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Speaker 1: good thing to posed to the viewers.

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Speaker 3: What do you guy?

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Speaker 4: I mean?

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Speaker 1: Because we started, like we said, we started this show different,

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Speaker 1: we achieved you know, I think a lot of success here.

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Speaker 1: We grew an audience, but beyond an audience, I feel

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Speaker 1: like we grew community. So I would like to hear

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Speaker 1: from the community. What do you guys want to see

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Speaker 1: from Native Land going forward? Will you you know where

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Speaker 1: do y'all stand? Do y'all you know, want to tune

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Speaker 1: in every week and hear us talk about these things

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Speaker 1: and what specifically do.

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Speaker 3: You want to like?

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Speaker 1: What would you like our role to be in your

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Speaker 1: diet of information and things that are of all the

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Speaker 1: things that are peeding for your attention, what would you

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Speaker 1: like our role to be?

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Speaker 5: And Tiffany is never going to allow every episode to

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Speaker 5: be about Donald Dan Trump. I can remember that back

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Speaker 5: from the very beginning. You're like, I am not talking

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Speaker 5: about this bad.

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Speaker 1: Well I mean that, But that's also a consideration because

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Speaker 1: trying to cover him is like trying to catch confetti,

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Speaker 1: I always say. And so it's like when you talk

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Speaker 1: about something on the day that you record, it is

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Speaker 1: old by the next day. So how do we cover

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Speaker 1: somebody who is an agent of chaos who does these

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Speaker 1: like big, big, big news dumps overnight, typically on a Friday,

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Speaker 1: so none of the networks can cover We saw this

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Speaker 1: playbook already, So do we talk about more overarching themes.

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Speaker 1: Do we, you know, talk about like we did its

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Speaker 1: own fascism that I think was a mini pod If

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Speaker 1: it is, check it out, I can't remember. Or are

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Speaker 1: we going to be chasing every little story saying this

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Speaker 1: is what happened on Tuesday and we're outraised about it

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Speaker 1: and then it's old by Friday. I think these are

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Speaker 1: all legitimate questions that we have to ask and ask

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Speaker 1: for your grace as our viewers who tune in as

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Speaker 1: we figure it out. Because I've seen y'all's comments before

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Speaker 1: about the show and tape and it's like, down, we

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Speaker 1: don't have, you know, studios in our house. What some

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Speaker 1: of us do, one of us don't. But yeah, we

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Speaker 1: are not a daily show, so we do the best

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Speaker 1: we can with the schedule we have. But yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: curious to hear from that.

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Speaker 5: I don't think we ought to do anything that doesn't

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Speaker 5: create shift. And yeah, I think this road shift reason

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Speaker 5: and we are shifting out. The show is complete by

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Speaker 5: saying God put us each on this earth for a

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Speaker 5: reason to do a work that is particular and specific

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Speaker 5: to us, and that if we do not do it,

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Speaker 5: then that work will not be done. That's not just

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Speaker 5: for the three of us. I think that's for everybody

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Speaker 5: who walks and breeze. All right, we got a work

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Speaker 5: to do.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Well, before we end the show, I do want

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Speaker 1: to just remind everybody to please leave us a review

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Speaker 1: and subscribe to Native Land Pod. Yes, we're available on

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Speaker 1: all platforms and YouTube, and as you all know, new

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Speaker 1: episodes dropped every Thursday. We also have mini pods that

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Speaker 1: drop every Monday, which we need to talk about what

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about on the mini pod. By

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Speaker 1: the way, you can also follow us on social media.

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Speaker 1: We are Tiffany Cross, Angelauri and Andrew Gillum. Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Uh there As of right now, there are seven hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty one days until mid term elections. That was

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Speaker 1: a question that we posted to. I was like, do

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Speaker 1: we really want to say how long til midterm elections?

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Speaker 3: Angela?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think Andrew you said yes, mom in yes, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So Angela, Andrew want to say. I was going to

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Speaker 1: ask y'all what y'all think? But democracy rules where we are?

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Speaker 3: So Angela apparently.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Bless all right, seven hundred and twenty one days until

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Speaker 1: midterm elections.

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Speaker 3: We will see you guys next time on Native land.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for two welcome home.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining the Natives, attention to what the

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Speaker 2: info and all of the latest Rock Gulm Cross connected

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Speaker 2: to the statements that you leave on our socials. Thank

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Speaker 2: you sincerely for the pass reason for your choice is cleared.

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Speaker 5: So grateful it took the execute role.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for serve, defend and protect the truth, even

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Speaker 2: if paste.

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Speaker 5: We welcome home to all of.

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Speaker 2: The natives wait, thank you, Welcome.

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Speaker 5: Y'all welcome.

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