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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, Well stop pie. We'll recap what happened

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Speaker 2: at the garden last night. C Webb was on those

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Speaker 2: great Sacramento teams and I thought they were going to

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Speaker 2: knock off the Lakers. They were up by twenty four

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Speaker 2: on the Lakers at home and lost a playoff game

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Speaker 2: to them.

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Speaker 3: That twenty two thousand and two.

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Speaker 4: Two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a tough series for Sacramento.

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Speaker 2: But they didn't blow it like in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: the way the Knicks did last night, in historical fashion.

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Speaker 2: When you think about it, you're up fourteen, you got

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Speaker 2: under three minutes to go, you're at home, all right,

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Speaker 2: take that Pasers, and then all of a sudden, Indiana

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Speaker 2: comes back and wins it. They tie it and send

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Speaker 2: it into overtime. And here is the call by Kevin Harlan.

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Speaker 6: Indiana with it, Calliverton, take it, He'll go pedal of

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Speaker 6: free for the gum.

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Speaker 2: That's Kevin Harland on the call with Reggie Miller, and

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Speaker 2: then Haliburton, thinking he had won the game, gave the

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Speaker 2: choke sign, and of course it went into overtime and

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Speaker 2: the Pacers ended up winning.

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Speaker 3: But when you look at.

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Speaker 2: The numbers, that's why when somebody says, oh, it's impossible,

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Speaker 2: or that's not going to happen, or that can't happen,

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Speaker 2: they have no chance. Teams leading by at least fourteen

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Speaker 2: points in the final two minutes and forty five seconds

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Speaker 2: of a fourth quarter, we're nine hundred and ninety four

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Speaker 2: and oh, since nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 7: Stead of the day, stall of a day, stead of

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Speaker 7: a day, Stanta a day.

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Speaker 3: This is the stand of the Day. Steat of the Day.

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Speaker 2: the Dan Patrick Show. You have Game two tonight, Timberwolves

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Speaker 2: and the thunder Shay gilgis Alexander received the NBA MVP

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Speaker 2: last night. If you look at the impact of the

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two Dream Team, so that's thirty three years ago,

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Speaker 2: just look at the math. The last eight years in

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Speaker 2: the NBA has seen the dominance of the foreign born player.

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Speaker 2: SGA is from Canada. The last MVP was Russell Westbrook

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Speaker 2: or was that James Harden American born MVP.

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Speaker 5: I think it's hardened than Westbrook, Is that what it was?

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Speaker 5: It was like twenty eighteen, maybe twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Never underestimate the impact that the nineteen ninety four Dream

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Speaker 2: Team had because we look at it from the perspective of, oh,

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Speaker 2: you had Mike, Larry and Magic and we dominated well,

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Speaker 2: the rest of the world looked at it as gosh,

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Speaker 2: we got a long way to go to catch up

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Speaker 2: with it. Let's start developing our talent here. We may

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Speaker 2: be a soccer nation, but let's be a basketball nation

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Speaker 2: as well. We want to be like Mike or Kobe

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Speaker 2: or Magic or Larry. And look at the foreign born

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Speaker 2: players and the dominance that you have. You could say

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Speaker 2: the United States.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Mark, we can't forget the influence of Vince Carter

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Speaker 8: in Canada. Yeah, Like it feels like Shay Goos Alexander

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Speaker 8: was a direct effect of what Vince Carter did in

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Speaker 2: Yes, And there are a lot of great Canadian basketball

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Speaker 2: players that we've seen influx with the NBA and you

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Also, NFL tried, Boy did they try to get rid

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Speaker 2: of the touch push. They were two votes away. Now

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Speaker 3: I do. I thought that the commissioner.

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Speaker 2: Had the requisite number of votes that this was going

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Speaker 2: Packers want to get rid of the touch push. Okay,

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Speaker 2: then they didn't have the number of votes. Then all

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Speaker 2: think they thought. And then Jason Kelsey went in and

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Speaker 2: here he is the former Eagles center, and he talked

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Speaker 2: in on. He said, it's that safe. Now they're trying

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Speaker 2: don't want something this predictable. I have no problem with

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Speaker 2: and you know, blame the NFL for this. They're the

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Speaker 2: ones that change the rule for some reason. There's no

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Speaker 2: reason to remove the rule for pushing the ball carrier,

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Speaker 2: and they did that back in two thousand and four.

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Speaker 2: So you slowly open up the door for the Eagles

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Speaker 2: to do this, and they mastered it. So I'm going

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Speaker 2: to punish a team because we were the ones on watch,

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Speaker 2: We were the lifeguards, and we allowed this to happen.

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Speaker 2: The NFL created this, they blame themselves. You open the door,

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Speaker 2: and the Eagles mastered this. I don't think you can

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Speaker 2: punish one team this way. It's like Bill Belichick and

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Speaker 2: the Patriots read the rule book differently than anybody else.

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Speaker 2: I can't punish them for being smarter, better, more prepared.

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Speaker 2: Oh they're doing it. They're cheating. Well, not everything they

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Speaker 2: did they cheated, they were just smarter.

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Speaker 3: Specifically, which ones do you agree with?

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Speaker 3: Just out of curiosity?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know where I stand on to flategate, it's silly.

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Speaker 2: Tom shouldn't have lied the fact that Aaron Rodgers said

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Speaker 2: first of all, you can't have a guy named that

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Speaker 2: over inflator? That would have been a dead giveaway. But

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Speaker 2: the NFL has only themselves to blame for this. For

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Speaker 2: a piece of taffy. There's okay. The Eagles were still

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Speaker 2: going to be successful. If you don't have this, they're

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Speaker 2: still going to be successful. Every other team can run this,

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Speaker 2: every other team has this opportunity. Why is it only

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Speaker 2: the Eagles have mastered this? That would be my question

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Speaker 2: to the other teams. Now, is it going away? Yes,

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Speaker 2: they wanted to go away. I understand that it looks predictable. Also,

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Speaker 2: and I mentioned this to Mike Florio from Pro Football

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Speaker 2: mastered this, no one cares. This is about the Eagles

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Speaker 2: have mastered it. Therefore, it's an unfair advantage. If Caroline

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Speaker 2: we going to care about the safety? No, no one

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Speaker 2: will care. This has to do with it's the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: But the NFL doesn't want to make it seem like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're singling out the Eagles while you single out the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Pole question for hour two is going to be what

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Speaker 5: Oh man, let's see we got up there right now,

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Speaker 5: a very specific poll question, the choke symbol last night

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Speaker 3: Right now? That is staying at about fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 5: Let's say it keeps going back and forth just by

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Speaker 3: What's a good thing they won? That's all. It's a

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Speaker 3: lot of serious left, yes, a lot of serious left.

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Speaker 10: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Right. That feels tough.

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Speaker 2: So you got Timberwolves and the thunder tonight game two,

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Speaker 2: Panthers Hurricanes game two as well, the passing of jimmersaying

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Speaker 2: the Colts owner. And I said that the one thing

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Speaker 2: that will always resonate with me with Jim, aside for

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Speaker 2: his love for music and collecting guitars, is that he

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Speaker 2: was the only owner to put his name to let's

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Speaker 2: get rid of Daniel Snyder with Washington Command, the only

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Speaker 2: guy who did that. And he didn't care what the

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Speaker 8: Yes, Marvin, around the NFL and NFL circles, was Jim

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Speaker 8: Erse considered to be a good owner. I know he's

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Speaker 2: I think he was a player friendly owner. Tony Dungee

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Speaker 2: would talk glowingly about Jim that Jim, let you do

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Speaker 2: your job. And I think anybody who was employed wants

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Speaker 2: you don't want a heavy hand on you. You don't want

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Speaker 2: Jim loved being an owner. Jim battled a lot, He

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Speaker 2: But I believe by all accounts he was considered a

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Speaker 2: very good player owner. I did receive a letter today,

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Speaker 2: Tom you did, yeah, Dear Dan Patrick show. I turned

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Speaker 2: off the show again the other day because I'm tired

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Speaker 2: of Dan and Fritzy going at it. Here's what I hear.

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Speaker 2: Todd says something Dan doesn't like. Todd defends himself, Dan

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Speaker 2: gives him more grief and keeps the harassment going. Todd

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Speaker 2: can't just stop and so on and so on. It's tedious,

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Speaker 2: demeaning and tiresome. Do it off the air, Sincerely, Bruce

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Speaker 2: in Moses Lake, Washington.

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Speaker 3: How about I promise to not do that.

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Speaker 2: If you promise not to say stupid things, then I

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Speaker 2: promise not to call you out on that.

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Speaker 11: That is a big ask, right there.

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Speaker 3: That's a big ask on both parts.

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Speaker 5: I don't know who's asking is larger, you for Todd

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Speaker 5: not saying stupid things, or you not finding the things

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Speaker 5: he's saying stupid.

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Speaker 12: Okay, And sometimes I think I'm saying something remotely intelligent

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Speaker 12: and the rest of the room thinks it's stupid and

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Speaker 12: looks I don't know in the moment until it's voted

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Speaker 12: upon by the gang here, like you just said something.

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Speaker 2: Did you realize though, on the party buns coming up

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Speaker 2: back from the epic loss at the Jemmy's, that ninety

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Speaker 2: minutes of stand up singing, telling jokes to no one

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Speaker 2: in particular might have been too much?

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Speaker 3: Briefly briefly came.

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Speaker 11: Up, but out.

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Speaker 12: I was quiet at first, and then I got like

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Speaker 12: this sudden boost of energer. I was losing my mind

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Speaker 2: It was, But nobody else got up and did stand

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Speaker 11: I told it to no one situation. We've got through this.

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Speaker 3: To start the wrong about that. You're not wrong, I

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Speaker 2: There's a visceral reaction to our conversations. And as I

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Speaker 11: That's fair, that's all twenty three years, you're gonna get

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Speaker 3: Some of that happened. Yeah, I'm sure your wife would

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Speaker 3: See, we don't need that in appropriate.

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Speaker 11: I didn't say anything in detail.

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Speaker 2: How about we take a break Fritzy we could do

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Speaker 3: Let's do it okay once again?

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Speaker 2: Now, am I setting you up for failure? I just

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Speaker 11: I am. Can I just kind of go up script?

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Speaker 3: You can do whatever you want. Yes, you're the Minister

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Speaker 3: Have that for you?

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Speaker 2: Before we speak to Tom Pelcerro, NFL Network insider Fritzi

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Speaker 2: was going to recreate the call and Kevin Harlan last

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Speaker 14: So here we go, seven seconds remaining in regulation, one

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Speaker 5: Wait, I was gonna play Kevin Harlan and then simple mistake.

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Speaker 14: So here we go, seven seconds remaining in Regulation one

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Speaker 14: twenty five one twenty three, New York. The Knicks led

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Speaker 14: Tyras is being mobbed by his Pacer teammates as he

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Speaker 7: We're going overtime. We'll pay some bills. This is the

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Speaker 7: Tom Pelacero, NFL Network insider. You didn't know you were

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Speaker 1: You know the the verbal cadence, the speed, the number

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Speaker 1: grew up watching Kevin Harlan uh calling Timberwolves games when

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Speaker 1: Was it actually a reason that he decided to, you know,

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Speaker 15: Twenty two.

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Speaker 1: That's that's over two thirds of the teams in the

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Speaker 1: You know they weren't able to pass it. You know

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Speaker 1: Ultimately they came up too short.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't think the commissioner tables this and

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Speaker 2: you come off as, you know, poor losers.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you know.

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Speaker 2: We we get beat by them. Now we don't want

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Speaker 2: Carolina can run this successfully? I mean Let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: does anybody object to them doing this if they were

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Speaker 1: If they're a five and twelve team, it's not the

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Speaker 1: NBC Nightly News with wester Holt to talk about the

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Speaker 1: that just won the Super Bowl. It's just it's a

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Speaker 1: If you watch a tapel, forget the seventies and eighties,

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Speaker 1: you watch a game from the nineties, early two thousands,

441
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Speaker 1: it's completely different because of you know, the hits on

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Speaker 1: defensives receivers that you're not allowed to do now, where

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Speaker 1: you're allowed to hit the quarterback, all the things that

444
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Speaker 1: went into taking the crown of the helmet out of

445
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Speaker 1: the game, you know, trying to emphasize the spearing rules.

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Speaker 1: They're all health and safety related changes. This is and

447
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Speaker 1: I've covered the league over twenty years. This is the

448
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Speaker 1: first time that I can remember that you had the

449
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Speaker 1: Competition Committee strongly in favor of a health and safety

450
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Speaker 1: related ban on a play that you had the medical committees,

451
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Speaker 1: that you had the medical people with the NFL all

452
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Speaker 1: saying this needs to be outlawed, and it did not pass.

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Speaker 1: But this was also the first time that a rule

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Speaker 1: is brought forth with health and safety related reasons to

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Speaker 1: do it where there was no injury data. So that's

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Speaker 1: the complicated part here is usually these health and safety rules,

457
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Speaker 1: it's like a rubber stamp because it's, hey, we want

458
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Speaker 1: to make the game safer, we want to avoid lawsuits,

459
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Speaker 1: we want to avoid liability, all those things, But you

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Speaker 1: usually have injury data to back it up. In this case,

461
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Speaker 1: what you're arguing is, hey, no injuries have occurred. It's

462
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Speaker 1: been run what one hundred and twenty times last year,

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Speaker 1: so it's been run maybe three hundred times in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: But the biomechanics, the posture, the amount of mass and

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Speaker 1: force this could lead to something dangerous that ultimately was

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Speaker 1: not a compelling enough reason to get the two extra votes.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll see the NFL is a big data gathering operation,

468
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Speaker 1: you know, whether it's from an injury perspective, from a

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Speaker 1: how many times is this run a success rate? All

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Speaker 1: those things are going to go into whether or not

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Speaker 1: this potentially comes up again in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it will.

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Speaker 2: But I also I don't have a problem if the

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Speaker 2: league says we don't have health data to get rid

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Speaker 2: of this play. But unlike the kickoff, we want to

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Speaker 2: be proactive, not reactive to this. We want to get

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Speaker 2: out in front of this. It's just like, you know,

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Speaker 2: their player safety. I'm all for that, but I also think,

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Speaker 2: just like with an on side kick, there's inherent danger.

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Speaker 2: When you play football, you sign up for this, and

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Speaker 2: that's what I don't understand with the on side kick.

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Speaker 2: I get, okay, but it's football. Now you're kind of

483
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Speaker 2: trying to bring it back. Now we want to have

484
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Speaker 2: a few more kickoffs coming back, like it's either one

485
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Speaker 2: or it's either this or nothing. Like I don't think

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Speaker 2: you can kind of go, you know, not many guys

487
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Speaker 2: got hurt on kickoffs last year that we thought, hey,

488
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Speaker 2: how about we do this or the onside kick? How

489
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Speaker 2: about you kick from the thirty four not the thirty five,

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Speaker 2: Like what are we doing.

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Speaker 1: Well with the broader The onside kick is a function

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Speaker 1: of the kickoff rule because of the alignment on the

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Speaker 1: dynamic kickoff. You can't run an onside kick from that formation,

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Speaker 1: So yes, you eliminate all the element of surprise, which

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Speaker 1: is that's the baseline issue here. This is you know, realistically,

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Speaker 1: there were fifty on side kicks last year. Three got recovered.

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Speaker 1: That's six percent. The historic rates are like twelve percent.

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Speaker 1: So you're not thinking this is suddenly going to lead

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Speaker 1: to you know, twenty more recoveries. You're just hoping you

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Speaker 1: get a couple more. You see what happens here, But

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Speaker 1: without the element of surprise, it makes things really, really difficult.

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Speaker 1: There's not a clear answer, you know, to go back

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Speaker 1: to the broader kickoff issue that was about you're trying

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Speaker 1: to reduce the space and speed. It's physics, is what

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Speaker 1: it is. You're going, Okay, last year they wanted the

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Speaker 1: return rate to be really low to make sure that

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Speaker 1: the injury rate went down. Now, okay, it seems like

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Speaker 1: this is a positive change. Now let's change the touchback rule.

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Speaker 1: Let's try to generate more returns and see if that

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Speaker 1: continues to go forward. The NFL generally does these things

511
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Speaker 1: very incrementally to make sure that it's not like the

512
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Speaker 1: pass interference review, disaster back in twenty nineteen where they

513
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Speaker 1: passed a rule before they wrote it and then nobody

514
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Speaker 1: could enforce it, and finally this went out forget it.

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Speaker 15: We're just not gonna overturn anything.

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Speaker 1: That's what they want to avoid on site kick though,

517
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Speaker 1: There's just there's not a clear answer here unless you

518
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Speaker 1: really seriously consider the thing that Philadelphia has been proposing

519
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Speaker 1: for the last probably five six years, which is a

520
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Speaker 1: fourth and whatever fourth and twenty let's call it alternative,

521
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Speaker 1: where it's one play, it's make it, take it. That

522
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Speaker 1: would be a fundamental change of the game to some

523
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Speaker 1: people who think it's gimmicky. But ultimately, Dan, that might

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Speaker 1: be somewhere along the line where we end up.

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Speaker 2: Son Pedlserro NFL Network Insider. You can see him on

526
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 2: the Insiders on NFL Network. That's weeknights at seven eastern.

527
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Speaker 2: Everybody's all excited about the Olympics. Everybody's ready to go.

528
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Speaker 2: They want their medals. I'm just curious the owner's reaction. Now,

529
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Speaker 2: they had to pass this, but they also have to

530
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Speaker 2: allow their players to be able to play or try out.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing, how does this work if I'm an owner

532
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Speaker 2: and Patrick Mahomes goes man, I'd love to have a

533
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Speaker 2: gold medal. Well, I'd love to have another Super Bowl Patrick,

534
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Speaker 2: So I don't want to risk you getting hurt. How

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Speaker 2: does this work and not hurt feelings?

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Speaker 1: Well, I would say this, there's enthusiasm at every level

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Speaker 1: of this, from the stakeholders, from the league office who

538
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Speaker 1: see this as part of their global expansion plans, to the.

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Speaker 15: Teams that like the idea of again making.

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Speaker 1: More money because if you can continue to increase international revenue,

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Speaker 1: that's all gonna help the value your franchises. The players,

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Speaker 1: you know, for the most part, not everybody. There are

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Speaker 1: some guys who have said.

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Speaker 15: I'm not gonna get involved with that.

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Speaker 1: I don't make money to play flag football, but a

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Speaker 1: lot of players are going to want to do it here.

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Speaker 1: But I would say the NFLPA also has expressed, you know,

548
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: enthusiasm for this, but they still got to work out

549
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: and some of these rules. There's questions about injury protections

550
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Speaker 1: and insurance. And you know, even though this is going

551
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Speaker 1: to happen in the early portion of the twenty twenty

552
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: eight games and so it's gonna end before training camps,

553
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Speaker 1: there's still gonna be some players who go, wait, I'm

554
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Speaker 1: using my whole off time, my whole spring and summer

555
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: to get ready for this, and then I'm just gonna

556
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Speaker 1: pop down two days later and go into training camp.

557
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Speaker 1: So there's some questions there. You know, unions defend wages, benefits,

558
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: working conditions and all those things are subject to further

559
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Speaker 1: evaluation here. So those are gonna be ongoing conversations. They're

560
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Speaker 1: gonna actually have to come to an agreement. There's like

561
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Speaker 1: a round, Okay, we like this idea, we all want

562
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Speaker 1: to make more money. Let's work on this together. But

563
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Speaker 1: the details still have to be worked out in terms of,

564
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Speaker 1: you know, how the process works over the next few years.

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Speaker 1: And I asked this question to a bunch of the

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Speaker 1: people who've been involved in these conversations. You know, just

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Speaker 1: like every other Olympic sport, there's like different qualifying things,

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Speaker 1: and there are national teams, and you know, you have

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Speaker 1: this vision of Okay, the you know you might have

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Speaker 1: Let's say, you know, forget team USA for a second,

571
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Speaker 1: because that's the team that's gonna have the most options.

572
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Speaker 1: But let's say your Korea and you've got hey, we

573
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Speaker 1: can get Kyler Murray, we get Kyle Hamilton, We're not

574
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Speaker 1: gonna have him til twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 15: Well, you're gonna have.

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Speaker 1: To qualify before that, and if the current Korean national

577
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Speaker 1: team isn't any good, those guys are gonna get left out.

578
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Speaker 1: So that stuff, from my understanding, really starts next year

579
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Speaker 1: and then heats up in twenty twenty seven. So this

580
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Speaker 1: is going to be kind of an ongoing evolution in

581
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Speaker 1: terms of what does this look like. Every national body

582
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Speaker 1: is going to approach this differently. I would certainly anticipate

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Speaker 1: USA football fully embraces this and wants all the NFL players,

584
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Speaker 1: even though you've got you know, the current team USA

585
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Speaker 1: quarterback saying, you know, I think I'm better than Pack Homes.

586
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Speaker 1: I said that justin Jefferson come on the Insiders the

587
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: other night and I brought that up. I'm like, you

588
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: got this guy, I'm like, is there any doubt in

589
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Speaker 1: your mind that NFL players could be better than the

590
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Speaker 1: current FLAG players?

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Speaker 15: He's like, well, man, they you know, they know the game.

592
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 15: But now Patrick Mahomes like, good luck.

593
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Speaker 1: Dude's like, there's no way, there's no way you're getting

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Speaker 1: that spot from him.

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Tom, Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: As always, Thanks for having that's Tom Pelsero. He's part

597
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Speaker 2: of the NFL Network Insiders weeknights at seven Eastern. Although

598
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: I will say this quarterback, who is you know, talking

599
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: a big game? You play that port, that that style

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Speaker 2: of football, flag football differently, I'm not saying he's better

601
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Speaker 2: than Patrick Mahomes. He might be better at flag football

602
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Speaker 2: than Patrick Mahomes. As crazy as that's going to sound,

603
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: it's definitely a different game. If you watched him play,

604
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: you watch this guy play it is It's now to

605
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: me Jaden Daniels would be the guy that that would

606
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Speaker 2: be my quarterback. Like I want you to be running

607
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: running away from people. Athletic, you know, Mahomes is athletic.

608
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: You're not.

609
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: You're not running away from anybody. But we got a

610
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: long way to go before we get there. A couple

611
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Speaker 2: of phone calls in Maren in California. Good morning, Maren,

612
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?

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Speaker 9: Hi?

614
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Speaker 3: I'm calling about my dad.

615
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Speaker 1: It's his birthday today.

616
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Speaker 3: Okay.

617
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Speaker 1: He's a longtime listener and just loves the show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, could you tell me a little more about your dad?

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Speaker 9: Ian?

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Speaker 1: He was loved, he says every day he listens on

621
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Speaker 1: the way to practice. He listens sucker on my way

622
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Speaker 1: to basketball.

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Speaker 3: And what's his name? Ian Ian? All right, well, Maren,

624
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Speaker 3: thanks thank you for calling up uh Ian.

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Speaker 1: Happy.

626
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Speaker 3: Listen every day.

627
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Speaker 2: Let's see Jay and Delaware. Hi Jay, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 16: Hey, Dereg, good morning and condolencens You guys definitely deserved

629
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Speaker 16: that the other night. You know what you really need

630
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Speaker 16: on this meet Thursday, A really big stake. And I

631
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Speaker 16: also called about Jason Kelsey. I thought it was pretty

632
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Speaker 16: convenient that all of a sudden, he's coming out to

633
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Speaker 16: protect the play. When he first retired on his podcast,

634
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Speaker 16: he straight up said to his brother that he hated

635
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Speaker 16: that play and he was glad he never had to

636
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Speaker 16: run it again.

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Speaker 3: I think that's fair to bring that back up.

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Speaker 2: Jay, You're right because the center, to me is the

639
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: one who pays the price out of all the players

640
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Speaker 2: with the toush push.

641
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: It's the center. But Jason Kelsey going.

642
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Speaker 2: Door to door at the owner's meetings saying it's a

643
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Speaker 2: safe play. Okay, Bob and Montana, Hi Bob, welcome back,

644
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Speaker 2: O Hey, thanks DP.

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00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm gonna go off script a little bit.

646
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Speaker 16: I'm actually working in Spokane right now.

647
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Speaker 3: If you need me to go out to Moses Lake

648
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Speaker 3: and pay Bruce a visit and re educate about how

649
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: great the show is.

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Speaker 16: You just let me know.

651
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: No, you know, hey, we have people who react like

652
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: this that they either tell Fritzy don't take that gruff

653
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Speaker 2: from Dan, or they agree with me that Fritzy needs

654
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Speaker 2: to listen to me more. But thank you, Bob. I

655
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Speaker 2: don't need you to be mindfcer here. Bob, by the way,

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Speaker 2: has to pay up on a bet. He said we

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Speaker 2: were winning. We were winning the Sports Emmy and if not,

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Speaker 2: he'd take a pie to the face and send us

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Speaker 2: a bottle of bourbon. So Bob, send another bottle of

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Speaker 2: bourbon and send us a video of you taking a

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Speaker 2: pie to the face.

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Speaker 3: Zach and Iowa. Hi, Zach, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 3: Good morning Dan. It's Zach from Iowa.

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Speaker 9: Actually joined by first time car Maverick Patrick, eight pounds,

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Speaker 9: nine ounces, one week old. Today.

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Speaker 3: We just wanted to.

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Speaker 9: Call in and say hello. Actually a merch idea. I

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Speaker 9: think a baby onesie with the first time caller across

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Speaker 9: the chest.

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Speaker 3: That the an idea for it.

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Speaker 5: I like that. We talked about a onesie a while ago.

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Speaker 5: It was done onesies here and there. Yeah, maybe we'll

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Speaker 5: revisit that, Zach. And congratulations on Maverick there, good luck

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Speaker 5: get your sleep. You got to be strategic with a

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Speaker 5: newborn because those naps when they have two naps and

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Speaker 5: then all of a sudden they go down to one nap,

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Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, maybe that nap doesn't

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Speaker 5: go as long as you think. And you're trying to

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Speaker 5: get stuff done and you're going really quiet around the house.

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Speaker 5: Dog barks. Yeah, yeah, that's why I forget about the

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Speaker 5: stuff you got to do. Sleep when they sleep, Yes,

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Speaker 5: you know, everything else can wait. It doesn't matter. You

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Speaker 5: sleep when they sleep. Man, take those z's. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 5: we'll take a break.

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Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up, and are we going to

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Speaker 2: do our pick six?

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Speaker 3: We're going to do our Yeah, more or less bet

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Speaker 3: coming up here. I think all right, we'll take a break.

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Speaker 3: We're back after this.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Todd's Got Rhyme time coming up. Do you want to

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Speaker 2: do this now or would you rather wait till the

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Speaker 2: top of the hour.

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Speaker 11: Whatever you like, I have it ready to go, but

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Speaker 11: I know we have other things to attend to. It

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Speaker 11: can wait till the top.

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Speaker 3: TI, Okay, how about I do this?

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Speaker 5: We do our pick six from DraftKings, all right, and

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Speaker 5: then if we have time on the back end of it,

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Speaker 5: we'll do rhyme time.

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Speaker 3: If not, we'll do it at the top.

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Speaker 11: Lovely idea by you.

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Speaker 2: So ready to win some real cash during the basketball playoffs,

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Speaker 2: check out Pick six from DraftKings. Download DraftKings Pick six app.

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Speaker 2: Now use code Patrick, so code Patrick. New customers. You

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Speaker 2: play five dollars, you get fifty and pick six credits,

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Speaker 2: better payouns, bigger wins only with pick six from DraftKings,

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Speaker 2: the crown is yours. Paulie's not here today, Dylan is

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Speaker 2: sitting in Pauli's chair, at least for the moment here

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Speaker 2: with pick six. Hey, guys, thank you TOI playing hurt

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Speaker 2: nearly chopped off your thumb last night.

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Speaker 17: Lost a little bit of it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, not the whole thing, But you won't get it back,

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Speaker 5: will you.

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Speaker 17: No, it's actually I donated it to the man cave somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this isn't going to be like that scene in

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Speaker 2: Naked Gun when Ricardo montalban is at the baseball game

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Speaker 2: and he takes a bite of his hot dog and

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Speaker 2: there's a there's a finger in.

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Speaker 17: It, It'll be like that, but smaller.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're not gonna with the lobster roll I got.

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Speaker 17: Actually, you guys are in luck. I was fortunately done

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Speaker 17: prepping all of the stuff, so I was just cutting

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Speaker 17: an onion at the very end.

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Speaker 18: What has onion in it? And today everything? No, don't

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Speaker 18: worry those onions were you know that I do not

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Speaker 18: like onions. I've got some onion free options for you.

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Speaker 18: Like the smell of onions. I just don't like onions.

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Speaker 17: Onions satang and all of yes, pretty undefeated smell.

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Speaker 2: I'd say garlic when you walk in, you walk in

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Speaker 2: and somebody's got garlic going.

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Speaker 3: You got me?

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Speaker 11: What's your blood type?

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Speaker 12: If we consume some of your blood blacks because it

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Speaker 12: can cause coagulation issues if it doesn't match like our

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Speaker 12: own blood.

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Speaker 17: Tip, I think you have bigger issues with my blood

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Speaker 17: than the type.

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Speaker 3: Dylan Moore or last nine and a half fingers right now?

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Speaker 11: Quick poll question?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, DraftKings got out.

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Speaker 2: Here, we go more or less we get to we

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Speaker 2: have to pick. So there's six of us we need

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Speaker 2: to have. It's called a pick six. Todd, give me

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Speaker 2: a more or less. With the basketball game coming up tonight.

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Speaker 12: I have the new MVPSGA having less than thirty one

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Speaker 12: and a half points.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know.

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Speaker 12: Don't you think he may try too hard after getting

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Speaker 12: the Now he's going to start missing some huts because

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Speaker 12: he's trying to score too much.

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Speaker 2: Now, he got like just over seventy percent of the

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Speaker 2: first place votes over Joker, and then Joker probably got

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Speaker 2: ninety percent of the second place votes.

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Speaker 3: There Seaton more or less.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Jalen Williams less than twenty and a

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Speaker 5: half points. He in the first round against the Grizzlies,

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Speaker 5: he put up some points, but then semifinals against the Nuggets,

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Speaker 5: he really sort of came back down to earth a

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Speaker 5: little bit in terms of getting up to twenty and

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Speaker 5: a half points. I don't know that he's gonna get

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Speaker 5: there this next game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of those players where you go, who

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Speaker 2: does Jalen Williams play for? And somebody's gonna go Charlotte. No,

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Speaker 2: he plays for a team that's favored to win the

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Speaker 2: NBA Championship, Marvin more or less.

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Speaker 8: I got Julius Rando at more than nineteen and a

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Speaker 8: half points. I think with Anthony Edwards's injury, I think

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Speaker 8: the Timber is gonna call upon him to be more aggressive.

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Speaker 8: So I got him at more than nineteen and a

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Speaker 8: half points.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he's been great. He has.

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Speaker 2: Not very exciting, but he's great. But he's been good

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Speaker 2: on what three different teams?

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Speaker 16: Are?

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Speaker 2: Four different teams? He was Who's Lakers, Nicks, Minnesota?

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Speaker 11: So he's been a Pelicans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so four he's a good He's in the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Good mar Let's see, uh, Dylan, how about

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Speaker 2: you because you're gonna be placing this bed for us?

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Speaker 17: I am as we speak, Dan, Okay, so I'm trying

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Speaker 17: to keep track of Okay, so far, so good. I

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Speaker 17: got Rudy Gobert, your guy less than eight and a

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Speaker 17: half rebounds less Rudy and the go bearts. That's probably

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Speaker 17: what I'm gonna eat my words on.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the guy who was guarding Joker

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Speaker 2: last series, at least in the final game, Alex Caruso

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Speaker 2: more than one and a half steals.

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Speaker 15: Oh like that.

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Speaker 2: I think he gets that in the first half, the

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Speaker 2: first half. Yes, that's crazy, that's a that's a that's

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Speaker 2: that's pick six.

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Speaker 3: That we've done it. DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: You can win some real cash during the basketball playoff

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Speaker 2: Pick six from DraftKings. Download the pick six app and

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Speaker 2: use the code Patrick. So code Patrick. New customers get

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Speaker 2: five pay five dollars, get fifty in pick Sikes credits,

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Speaker 2: better payouts, bigger wins only with uh Pick six from

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Speaker 2: DraftKings to crown Is Shores.

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Speaker 3: All right, Todd, time to play rhyme time, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, camri Accord, camri accord, Toyota.

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Speaker 11: And these words have to rhyme. Toyota be tough to rhyme.

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Speaker 11: Camera accord. Actually, I think I screwed that one up.

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Speaker 12: Camra Accord is the left clue. The right clue is Dallas.

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00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 12: Camra accord is that we're going after a great start

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Speaker 12: camra accord left side, right side is Dallas midsized.

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Speaker 3: Uh, what what is a camera?

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Speaker 11: What is ad?

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Speaker 3: What are those cars?

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Speaker 11: The cars?

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Speaker 3: And they said dollars, cars, cars stars.

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Speaker 12: I messed that up, So I confuse you on that one. Okay,

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Speaker 12: how about Smuckers Clarkson Smuckers clarks Jelly Kelly Clarkson.

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Speaker 3: Who's Kelly Clarkson?

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Speaker 12: Religious speech Crabtree religious speech sermon, Sherman, There you go.

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Speaker 11: I love it. How about eleven Yankee catcher? Eleven Yankee catcher?

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Speaker 3: Munsonson's the second half?

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Speaker 11: What would be eleven? That's how we played Againsado.

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Speaker 3: Georgie.

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Speaker 11: How about rear shove, rear shove push?

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Speaker 3: Very good.

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Speaker 11: Kyle Carlyle, Kyle Carlyle.

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Speaker 3: Something Rick.

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Speaker 15: Springfield.

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Speaker 5: By the way, while we're at the debating this one,

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Speaker 5: or thinking about, if someone asked, now if Dylan has

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Speaker 5: the smallest hands on.

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Speaker 3: The show, that's a good question. That's a fair question.

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Speaker 2: Even missing part of his thumb, his hands are still

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Speaker 2: bigger than Marvin's.

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Speaker 3: Right there, Bill gets it. That felt go ahead, Tod, It.

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Speaker 12: Was actually brand PACER's head, and the answer was Kyle Carlyle.

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Speaker 11: So I just screwed up again. I did the answer.

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Speaker 5: Okay, It's so odd that rhyming not being one of

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Speaker 5: Todd's strengths.

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Speaker 3: He comes up with a segment called rhyme time, but

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Speaker 3: he can't rhyme head was Kyle? All right?

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, let's take a break, let's regroup.

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Speaker 2: Final hour on the way