Speaker 1: I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When
Speaker 1: I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.
Speaker 1: And when I find my.
Speaker 2: Ball in a fried egg, Friday Egg, the dreaded Friday Egg,
Speaker 2: Frida Egg, Frida Egg, bride Egg.
Speaker 1: Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the course.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the
Speaker 1: Friday Egg Podcast. I'm your host and Andy Johnson, and
Speaker 1: I'm joined by the Three Man Weave. We've got DJ
Speaker 1: Paiehowski from Scratch and Tron Carter from No Laying Up.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, guys.
Speaker 3: Thank you Andrew. It's good to be weaving. Good to
Speaker 3: be weaving. Always be weaving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tront has been been a little a little while
Speaker 1: since you've been on the pod. Kind of curious it
Speaker 1: was a big weekend for you and Bryson. I would
Speaker 1: love to hear your thoughts on H one one transpired.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: First of all, I feel like my absence from the
Speaker 2: pod trans uh coincided with our trip to Fishers when
Speaker 2: I proved myself to be an elite amateur and beat
Speaker 2: you on the golf course and you just you just
Speaker 2: can't handle it. Yeah, The John Deere Fifth Major.
Speaker 4: By the way, Tron beating you at Fishers. We don't
Speaker 4: have to talk about you guys' golf games because no.
Speaker 3: One gives a ship.
Speaker 4: But Tron beating you at Fishers is like Bryson missing
Speaker 4: like eight straight cuts.
Speaker 3: And then coming out and knocking off a win. Very similar, Bryson.
Speaker 3: We're both elite amateurs, that's true.
Speaker 1: I I wouldn't say I am an elite amateur. I'm
Speaker 1: a middling amateur.
Speaker 3: Let's be honest.
Speaker 2: You say you're an e leade amateur pretty often.
Speaker 1: So anyways, really good moving on Bryson.
Speaker 2: So, first of all, fifth Major. Good week, of course
Speaker 2: was great. I felt the greens were a little bit
Speaker 2: slow on the weekend, but we're not going to nitpick
Speaker 2: what was weather like.
Speaker 1: They have a lot of rain early in the week
Speaker 1: times of rain camera.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Actually you guys got crushed in Chicago, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: But anyway, I mean it was it was a good week.
Speaker 2: Charles Hell third came out firing. Honestly, Bryson wasn't even
Speaker 2: on my radar screen to start Sunday, like I thought
Speaker 2: he was just gonna So Randy's been just pumping Bryson.
Speaker 3: Probably twelve weeks.
Speaker 2: Now, Hey, guys like Bryson, he's coming, He's coming, He's coming,
Speaker 2: and like all of us are like, you're you're insane, dude.
Speaker 3: What's the what's the bet? Every time he missed the cut?
Speaker 2: Every time Bryson misses the cut, Randy has to watch
Speaker 2: one or two episodes of The Wire, which he's like
Speaker 2: always refused to watch. So he's been watching a lot
Speaker 2: of the episodes of The Wire. He's through like two seasons,
Speaker 2: like the Sabatkas and everything. So finally, like, you know,
Speaker 2: Bryson just comes through. I took a nap on Sunday
Speaker 2: afternoon and I just figured, like and then I kind
Speaker 2: of checked my phone and like Rogers was running away
Speaker 2: with it, and I was like, I man, like even
Speaker 2: Patrick Rodgers can't miss putts and choke this away. Sure enough,
Speaker 2: Bryson just comes through and comes out dukes of hazard
Speaker 2: and uh he shot thirty on the back nine. And
Speaker 2: my Mike Bryson thing isn't so much. I don't think
Speaker 2: the guy's a fraud. Like he's obviously a great player.
Speaker 2: He's been uh you know, naa champion, USAM champion. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure he can play outside the Midwest. He hasn't
Speaker 2: proven that yet. I mean, he's won at Aaron Hills,
Speaker 2: he won at Olympia Fields, he's won in Cleveland. Those
Speaker 2: are pretty much just three big wins. But he's just
Speaker 2: he can't stop talking about how smart he is and.
Speaker 3: How how.
Speaker 2: You know, how unique his mindset is and everything. Just
Speaker 2: go play, man, I've said this on pods before. Just
Speaker 2: go play, Like, quit trying to actively piss everybody off,
Speaker 2: and like he doesn't have a whole lot of friends
Speaker 2: in our allies out there.
Speaker 4: So here's the counterpoint to that, I think is first
Speaker 4: of all, I'm all in on Bryson, not in the
Speaker 4: not in the traditional way, I don't think.
Speaker 3: And I think when a lot.
Speaker 4: Of people say like, oh, I love that guy, I
Speaker 4: think what they mean is like, man, I'd love to
Speaker 4: sit down and like have a beer with that guy.
Speaker 4: And That's not what I'm saying at all. Like we
Speaker 4: seem like very different people. I don't know that we
Speaker 4: would like I don't know that we would necessarily get along,
Speaker 4: but I absolutely love just the circus that comes with it,
Speaker 4: and as far as like entertainment goes, like watching him
Speaker 4: make a backline charge rivaled like Bubba or Poulter or
Speaker 4: any of those guys, Patrick Reid, any of those guys.
Speaker 3: Being in the mix.
Speaker 4: And just from a pure like golf fan entertainment standpoint,
Speaker 4: it like almost.
Speaker 3: Doesn't get any better, like it's building.
Speaker 4: Like imagine if you know, if he gets in contention,
Speaker 4: like actually when he was in contention with the Masters,
Speaker 4: like it was awesome, like and who cares like what
Speaker 4: he's doing or or any of that stuff, Like I'm an.
Speaker 3: Agreement that golf needs a build.
Speaker 2: You brought up all these your word, I don't know
Speaker 2: you brought up Poulter, read Bagdad, Jerry, I mean all
Speaker 2: these guys.
Speaker 3: Well, and so here's here's the other thing is.
Speaker 4: To a degree, all the like science stuff, all that's
Speaker 4: like is not his fault. And I think it's a
Speaker 4: bit of him getting sucked into the narratives you guys
Speaker 4: are always so happy to talk about because I think
Speaker 4: what happens is like I mean, you see it, and
Speaker 4: it's fair questioning, but because that's like what people know
Speaker 4: about him, and that's what they want to hear. But
Speaker 4: like he wins, and the first question is about like
Speaker 4: you love science. Nobody tell us about science isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3: He does. He does.
Speaker 2: He's just he goes so over the top and so
Speaker 2: beyond the pill on some of his answers where it's like, man,
Speaker 2: just say just say you know what.
Speaker 3: I'm working on some things right now, but I know.
Speaker 5: But That's what I love, though, is if he did that,
Speaker 5: everyone would be like, man, what a dick?
Speaker 3: Like he's so standoffish. I love just leaning into it
Speaker 3: and just completely yea leaning well.
Speaker 1: A lot of traditional media complain about Dustin Johnson and
Speaker 1: his lack of responses and interviews, and Bryson is just
Speaker 1: the complete opposite. He gives you too much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like he does it in a
Speaker 2: way that instead of being informative, he is very don
Speaker 2: king self. He's like a mix between Don King and
Speaker 2: like Albert.
Speaker 1: Einstein, don King and Albert.
Speaker 3: It's like Bryce and d Chambeau. In the Art of
Speaker 3: Self Promotion, it's a book I would read.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying so trying.
Speaker 2: I think the art history teacher wrote a book called
Speaker 2: Booker T. Washington in the Art of Self Promotion, So
Speaker 2: volume two I could do Volume.
Speaker 4: Two first of all, talk about like, here's the one
Speaker 4: thing that does get glossed over a little bit. I
Speaker 4: think is like his game is so good, Like it's
Speaker 4: so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he mashes the ball, he destroys the ball, and
Speaker 1: like he's just struggled too much with this putter. But
Speaker 1: he seems to be fine to something. He's gonna win
Speaker 1: a major championship like I I like would say that
Speaker 1: of young players outside of John Rahm, like Bryson D.
Speaker 1: Chambeau is going to win a major, Like I put
Speaker 1: him up there with almost anybody else that's major free
Speaker 1: under twenty three four years old.
Speaker 3: The thing that also, not a lot of people knows
Speaker 3: that all his irons are the same length.
Speaker 5: Or or are Yeah, you want to fill this up,
Speaker 5: there's some It was on golf RX there somebody tweeted that,
Speaker 5: you're like, man, this is like not a whole lot
Speaker 5: of people know this, but most tour players they're irons
Speaker 5: are the same line.
Speaker 3: Just a scorching take.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's darker place, the.
Speaker 3: Com trails of golf conspiracy.
Speaker 2: Somebody somebody said jet fuel can't melt skill shafts.
Speaker 1: Here's a question, and what's it darker place? Golf Club
Speaker 1: at List's message wars or golf wrx's message wars.
Speaker 2: Golf WRX because that stuff like doesn't matter. So like
Speaker 2: golf club atlists like that stuff's going to be around
Speaker 2: in fifty years, Like those courses, nobody's gonna be talking
Speaker 2: about the title or the tailor made a nine in
Speaker 2: like six months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to think, like which I'm trying to
Speaker 3: think which group. I'm trying to think of the right
Speaker 3: way to say this. One of the groups has has
Speaker 3: more to lose, and I'm not sure like which one
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just it's like obsolescence.
Speaker 1: Yah, all right, Well the.
Speaker 3: Game just a game. I cannot I cannot even try
Speaker 3: to pretend like I keep up with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't get into it.
Speaker 2: All right, Andy, I got a question for you. So,
Speaker 2: one of the most interesting things I talked about, or
Speaker 2: I gleaned from Bryson's post round interviews and everything, was
Speaker 2: the fact that he was chasing a little bit more distance,
Speaker 2: like he was chasing another ten fifteen yards of distance.
Speaker 2: It seemed like he said he got that, he got that,
Speaker 2: got that figured out, like kind of got past that
Speaker 2: and then got everything sorted over the last three or
Speaker 2: four weeks.
Speaker 3: If he's so long, Like, why is he chasing more distance?
Speaker 3: Is he like the cat? He just can't?
Speaker 1: I think, well, I think that's what everybody does it
Speaker 1: to a certain extent. I mean, you get to tour
Speaker 1: and then you think you need to be better, you
Speaker 1: need you watch what's happening with DJ and you know
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, he hits it so far, I need
Speaker 1: to hit it like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, but Bryce's freedom long. I mean he was
Speaker 2: long at the US hand as long as the masters.
Speaker 3: Like, hey, I don't know where where does he fit?
Speaker 3: Like I don't know this, but like where does he
Speaker 3: fit among tour players?
Speaker 1: You know, I think, just like all part above average.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't have the stats right in front
Speaker 1: of me.
Speaker 2: Like eight percentile, right like seventy fifth, eightieth percentile.
Speaker 1: But you know you yeah, I think he's got the best.
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure where he is. But you get
Speaker 1: to tour and you see these low scores and he
Speaker 1: probably looked at it and said, I need to get
Speaker 1: more wedges in my hand.
Speaker 3: You know, he was looking at the data.
Speaker 6: He was you know, although he didn't have enough data
Speaker 6: because he wasn't making enough cuts.
Speaker 1: He was light on data compared to his competitors. That's
Speaker 1: why he needed to get.
Speaker 3: Plenty disadvantage these bigger sample sizes.
Speaker 1: You know. Another big winner was Rapha Cabrera Bayo finally one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all in them, my guy. That was awesome.
Speaker 4: I don't know a ton about him other than you know,
Speaker 4: I mean I've watched him play over here, just all
Speaker 4: the WGCs and majors and you know when he went
Speaker 4: deep at the match play and all that stuff, but
Speaker 4: like he was kind of sneaky falling into that, Like
Speaker 4: that was the most interesting stat as soon as he won,
Speaker 4: was just knowing like that the stat was going to
Speaker 4: be everywhere, like yeah, when was the last time that
Speaker 4: he because I couldn't picture it and it was whatever
Speaker 4: five and a half years.
Speaker 3: Are you saying he's like a poor man's Lee Westwood?
Speaker 3: He had he had three economy of Spain is kind
Speaker 3: of low. That's the other reason he's kind of the
Speaker 3: poor man. I think he's all the players Lee westw
Speaker 3: It is yeah, deep global.
Speaker 2: God keep diminishing Westwood Man.
Speaker 3: Versus Cabrera BeO.
Speaker 1: This week, any takers, No, you've got your.
Speaker 2: How about Westwood versus.
Speaker 3: Leishman is already locked? But that can we talk.
Speaker 2: About all right, I don't mean to skip ahead here
Speaker 2: because I think we need to talk about the Utah
Speaker 2: Championship on the Web Tour, but can we talk about
Speaker 2: Porter and where he pulled his odds from on his
Speaker 2: British Open preview column.
Speaker 1: I didn't see him.
Speaker 2: So he pulled it and he had who he had?
Speaker 2: He had somebody had the seventy five to one odds.
Speaker 3: The dictator Roberto Castro, Oh Castra.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had Roberto Castro as a sleeper at seventy
Speaker 2: five to one odds. On my sportsbook, Roberto Castro was
Speaker 2: five fifty to one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how it's money there.
Speaker 1: Castro is an interesting character because he made the Tour
Speaker 1: Championship last year and two years ago two years before
Speaker 1: he two years ago he made the Tour Championship and
Speaker 1: lost his car. You know it's again, Yeah, it's almost
Speaker 1: impossible to do like. I don't know if anybody else
Speaker 1: has ever done it legitimately.
Speaker 3: I'm not exaggerating here.
Speaker 4: I think if you could have any player on the podcast,
Speaker 4: he would be probably on my top five.
Speaker 3: I love Castro.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything bad about the man. It's just
Speaker 1: unbelievable that it's gonna it might happen again.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like it's kind of like a reverse
Speaker 2: or it's kind of like a Camillo community in a
Speaker 2: full season and doing it multiple times.
Speaker 3: Crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, It's nuts. I mean he uh so, anyways,
Speaker 1: that trying. We'll move on to the Open Championship now
Speaker 1: that we got there.
Speaker 2: Well all right last last year though, I just want
Speaker 2: to I want to set the records right on price
Speaker 2: and done this before. Bryson's got game, people, I'm not
Speaker 2: disputing that he's got game.
Speaker 3: He just.
Speaker 2: It's like he wants to be different. I'm cool with
Speaker 2: being different.
Speaker 3: Do you you do?
Speaker 2: You just don't tell me about it every and every time.
Speaker 3: Every time you're asked about it.
Speaker 2: No, No, he does any anytime, anytime, even when he's not.
Speaker 2: It's not like he's like speak softly, carry a big stick,
Speaker 2: carry carry a one a single length big stick.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, my our stack guy, just send me a
Speaker 1: message Tony reality, Bryson is thirty eighth and driving distance
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 3: It's like seventy percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's averaging three hundred off the team. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I don't know why that guy would need
Speaker 1: to chase the yards, but it could have been in
Speaker 1: the data.
Speaker 4: So all right, well, just here's here's what I'm gonna
Speaker 4: say every time from now and this is all I
Speaker 4: will ask.
Speaker 3: You're entitled to your opinion. Here, I'll defend to the death,
Speaker 3: you're right to express the free country.
Speaker 4: Every time you see something that like drives you insane
Speaker 4: about him, just trace it back and say, like, why
Speaker 4: is he saying this? Is he saying this unprompted? Or
Speaker 4: is he saying this because he was asked about it
Speaker 4: again and again?
Speaker 2: But he has no discretion about it.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just I think he's like lacks discretion.
Speaker 4: I think he is like I don't know, I think
Speaker 4: he's a I think he is just trying to embrace
Speaker 4: his unique miss and just trying to be him.
Speaker 3: Oh, he's certainly trying to raise what I'm into.
Speaker 1: I'm out on what his sponsors do to him. But
Speaker 1: the guy is just a total weirdo. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: is this different? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I was lost.
Speaker 2: Like it was like even when people weren't interviewing about
Speaker 2: stuff and they would ask him about Oh, like why
Speaker 2: do you single like irons like, well, I signed my
Speaker 2: name left handed back.
Speaker 3: He's toned that stuff down. I think, I think I
Speaker 3: think he a lot of it is just like.
Speaker 4: Being a twenty two year old like millionaire that everyone
Speaker 4: is like fascinated with and like there's got to be
Speaker 4: something that like none of us have done that except
Speaker 4: as ground the internet celebrity is the only one that
Speaker 4: has gone through this, and it's it's hard to like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's gonna be hard to like rate it
Speaker 4: in when people are like company your ego all the time.
Speaker 4: So who's like a big personality that like totally owns
Speaker 4: it that you like, Who's who's the model in golf
Speaker 4: just in general?
Speaker 2: Both Grayson Murray.
Speaker 3: I'm kidding. I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean I don't. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know if there is a blueprint
Speaker 3: because it's I don't know. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 3: would have a hard question.
Speaker 2: No that that's a very valid question and a good question.
Speaker 2: But I just think there's Yeah, I mean you could
Speaker 2: look at Ricky and say Phil would be my only Yeah,
Speaker 2: but like Ricky's a good like he does things his
Speaker 2: own way. I don't know if he's got that sort
Speaker 2: of quirky personality, but he does things his own way
Speaker 2: and he can you know, he's done it in a
Speaker 2: way that hasn't offended the ship out of his peers.
Speaker 4: I think Phil is the model for this. I think
Speaker 4: phils like old distinguished Bryson. If you think about the
Speaker 4: ship that he says and the stuff that Bryson says,
Speaker 4: they're not that different.
Speaker 2: Phil saying that ship in like ninety six.
Speaker 4: And he alienated everybody, and everyone's like, God, that guy's
Speaker 4: like a little much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I get the sense of like Phil has
Speaker 2: a ton of self self awareness too, and yeah, any
Speaker 2: and he always has, whereas I don't get the sense
Speaker 2: that Bryson has even remotely the.
Speaker 3: Same level of self awareness. Maybe maybe it comes with time,
Speaker 3: fair Fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what's interesting is that you're in on
Speaker 1: the Rerictator, Randy's out on the Rictator, You're out on Bryson,
Speaker 1: and Randy's in on Bryson.
Speaker 3: Randy being in on Bryson makes me even more than bring.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm surprised Andy's not not just beating the Bryce
Speaker 2: and drum.
Speaker 3: No, but he's got I've got tapes, he's texting me today.
Speaker 3: He's all in on Bryson. He's just laying in the weeds, right,
Speaker 3: there's contrarian.
Speaker 2: Andy's like, oh my contrarian brother, a contrarian revolutionary.
Speaker 1: I just I'm realistic. He's really good at golf. I'm
Speaker 1: not in on Bryson. Like I'm like DJ said, I'm
Speaker 1: never going to go have a beer with Bryson. That's
Speaker 1: something I'm not interested in doing. But I and I'm
Speaker 1: I don't really enjoy watching him play golf either. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's sluggish way the way the way.
Speaker 2: That was My one thing about Rogers was was, man,
Speaker 2: I feel like he should have gotten like a too,
Speaker 2: like two strokes tracted from his score for having to
Speaker 2: play with Bryson and Zach Johnson on Saturday.
Speaker 3: That was absolutely brutal. Interesting, No, and then and then
Speaker 3: I fired off a take.
Speaker 2: They were like like Bryson took like ninety seconds to
Speaker 2: line up Pott. I think he minded up six different times,
Speaker 2: got the line exactly right, some salt, And then and
Speaker 2: then I was like, man, like, can we just like
Speaker 2: preemptively put these guys in the clock? The fire off
Speaker 2: this take no less than like eight seconds later they
Speaker 2: walk up to the next team and they're waiting on
Speaker 2: the next team.
Speaker 3: And what would h We're a real quick flashpole for
Speaker 3: the group here. What would make players play faster?
Speaker 4: Get them getting doctor stroke or other players getting gaining.
Speaker 3: A stroke, other players gaining stroke would make them play
Speaker 3: faster like the rest of the field, or just the
Speaker 3: guys in their group. No, just the guys in their group.
Speaker 1: No, I can't be to the guys in another in
Speaker 1: their group because then you got to get guys behind them. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a perfect system, to be honest. No,
Speaker 3: it's it's the belt man, you put the belt on it.
Speaker 3: Sorry proposed this. Speaking of the belt, let's talk about
Speaker 3: the Open Championship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tron, you played Royal Birkdale a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited and all I can think is just
Speaker 2: like flighted two irons off tas. It's the it's kind
Speaker 2: of a non the script start, but man, like you
Speaker 2: get out to six, seven to really the rest of
Speaker 2: the course, there's some just nasty part threes, but it's
Speaker 2: there's some serious course management involved too. It's a it's
Speaker 2: a disciplinarian's course.
Speaker 1: I hear, like I hear Driver might not be a
Speaker 1: popular club this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it all depends on I haven't looked
Speaker 2: at the weather. I heard kind of offhand that it
Speaker 2: was supposed to be shitty later in the week. But
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's all It's tough for me
Speaker 2: to judge because the wind was blowing the opposite direction
Speaker 2: when we played it. But I think it's all dependent
Speaker 2: upon the wind and you know the direction it's coming from.
Speaker 2: But I mean, even the holes that were downwind, you
Speaker 2: were like the par fives for us were down the
Speaker 2: two part fives in the back and like it was,
Speaker 2: it was totally it was goading you win to being
Speaker 2: aggressive and going for it and then you just get
Speaker 2: like you hit it a little bit offline and you're
Speaker 2: lost ball. I mean, it was you gotta That's why
Speaker 2: it feels really.
Speaker 3: Speaky to me. I like, I like speed.
Speaker 2: I think DJ and I just took out second mortgages
Speaker 2: today to put on the strap three to one.
Speaker 1: Is that does it favor right to left, left to
Speaker 1: right at all?
Speaker 2: I didn't feel like it, And again I think it
Speaker 2: comes down to the wind. But one hole that sticks
Speaker 2: out to me where it was like four or five.
Speaker 2: I think it was five, five or six. It's like
Speaker 2: a part four and there's this it's pretty non as script.
Speaker 2: There's a lake on the right, and then there's a
Speaker 2: ton of bunkers up by the green. But somebody like DJ,
Speaker 2: if they're feeling frisky, they could pull it out driver
Speaker 2: carry one three thirty five and get lucky up by
Speaker 2: the green and put it on the green and have
Speaker 2: a two advantage over the field versus. But if that
Speaker 2: goes sideways, you're you're looking at six easily. So I
Speaker 2: feel like it's it's such you know, it's all about discipline.
Speaker 2: And the other big takeaway for me was there's a
Speaker 2: lot of on the greens. A lot of the greens
Speaker 2: are elevated, and there's these little like rivets in the
Speaker 2: side of the greens that these little runoffs that you
Speaker 2: really can't even see from the fairway, but they make
Speaker 2: the green a lot smaller than it than it looks
Speaker 2: to the looks to the eye before you play it.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I don't think I've been this
Speaker 2: excited for a major championship for a while.
Speaker 3: This is gonna be sweet.
Speaker 2: I think that this is on like the level of
Speaker 2: like as far as interest in watching, it's on the
Speaker 2: level of like a shinnacock for me.
Speaker 1: Interesting, I praise, I praise.
Speaker 2: Indeed, it's just a really good test of golf.
Speaker 3: I don't think it favors anybody.
Speaker 1: You look at you, you look at the past champions.
Speaker 1: From there, You've got Johnny Miller, Peter Thompson won twice,
Speaker 1: Arnold Palmer, Lee Trevino, Tom Watson, I mean, pedigree Ian
Speaker 1: even Baker Fitch won when he was really good.
Speaker 3: I mean he was really really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, was playing the best golf anybody in the world.
Speaker 3: Where did this fall in like his line of majors Harrington?
Speaker 1: I think the second second or second?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he uh is he?
Speaker 1: I mean he'll be in the Hall of Fame. All
Speaker 1: the other guys are Hall of famers.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about Peter Thompson just being so That
Speaker 2: was the big takeaway from going to England, was like
Speaker 2: Peter Thompson being so sorry to sidetrack us here, but
Speaker 2: like everywhere we showed up, it's like Peter Thompson had won. Therefore,
Speaker 2: now that's kind of you know, I was kind of
Speaker 2: like the ignorant dude. I was like, man like I
Speaker 2: I know about Peter Tom.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Probably two of the most underrated players in the history
Speaker 4: of golf are Peter Thompson and Tiger Woods.
Speaker 2: I feel like, you just this is just an excuse
Speaker 2: for DJ to bring up the Tiger Woods is underrated.
Speaker 3: It's just you know, just staying consistent with is Padrick underrated?
Speaker 1: I think I think he kind of is. Thompson won
Speaker 1: five Open Championships.
Speaker 3: I know, that's.
Speaker 2: Insane Tom Watson, and I feel like the Brits downgraded
Speaker 2: him because.
Speaker 3: He was an Australian. He's a prisoner, he's a criminal inmate,
Speaker 3: he was a Florida State seminal.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, Thompson. I mean, it's just somebody you don't
Speaker 1: hear a ton about. I mean Tom Watson is like
Speaker 1: beloved in in the British Isles. Yeah, but Thompson wasn't
Speaker 1: as beloved.
Speaker 3: No. Uh, Tom Watson play, He hasn't played. Has he
Speaker 3: played the opening in a couple of years? Andrews last one?
Speaker 1: Yeah he's done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because he had the Farewell Dark and.
Speaker 1: So he those two both won five Open Championships, which.
Speaker 2: Is where did all right, where did Peter Thompson win?
Speaker 1: He won two two at Birkedale. He won his first
Speaker 1: in his last at Birkedale, and then, uh, let's see
Speaker 1: where else do you win? I'd have to dive into these.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to dive into all these. We're we're
Speaker 1: done talking about Peter Thompson. That his chances here, that's
Speaker 1: that's another story for another day. Let's uh, let's talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about Rory coming in two of this
Speaker 1: cuts mm hmm, right, yeah, three out of his last
Speaker 1: four hasn't done it, hasn't really been relevant in a
Speaker 1: major since his win at Kiowa.
Speaker 3: You love that.
Speaker 1: Lee West has been more relevant in major championships since
Speaker 1: after the twenty fourteen PGA Championship than Rory.
Speaker 3: The twenty fourteen PGA If you only.
Speaker 4: Count Fridays and Saturdays where the golf course was in
Speaker 4: the Eastern time zone, Lee West has been way more relevant.
Speaker 1: Hey, he's got a runner up.
Speaker 2: All right, here's the other all right, going back to
Speaker 2: Peter Thompson, here's the other thing. The guy won three
Speaker 2: Open championships in a row, Birkdale, Saint Andrews, Liverpool, didn't
Speaker 2: win in fifty seven, came in, came runner up at
Speaker 2: Saint Andrews. So they quit Saint Andrews two or three
Speaker 2: years and then won the next year at lifting at
Speaker 2: Saint ANNs. So he won three out of four years.
Speaker 2: In the one year that he didn't win, he was
Speaker 2: runner up. That's freaking strong strong.
Speaker 1: It's a historic pace speed. Underrated, Nobody's just nobody is
Speaker 1: saying he's not underrated.
Speaker 3: Let's move on from the Peter Thompson take. I'm going
Speaker 3: to war for Peter Thomas.
Speaker 1: You got anything on make a rib anybody?
Speaker 3: Ah?
Speaker 2: I mean I watched most of the Scottish Open last
Speaker 2: week and he just he looked like a kid trying
Speaker 2: to find his mom. He was he was lost with
Speaker 2: them all.
Speaker 3: He was his mom.
Speaker 2: He couldn't like I mean I was, and he he
Speaker 2: chalked it up to a simple fix of ball position
Speaker 2: and his stance.
Speaker 3: But he looked fine off the tee.
Speaker 2: He just couldn't anything below an eight iron. He just
Speaker 2: wasn't even remotely in the circle of trust with I.
Speaker 4: Didn't get to watch much of the Scottish Open, but
Speaker 4: it just seems like for the last two years.
Speaker 3: Just I know I've harped on this before, but it
Speaker 3: just always feels like it comes back to just missing
Speaker 3: like momentum putts being able to grind. Yeah, and he
Speaker 3: just yeah. They like it.
Speaker 2: They were like, yeah, man, like it's a big round
Speaker 2: for like, I feel like everybody keeps saying every time
Speaker 2: you watch Rory on the big round for r they
Speaker 2: said that the Irish openly said, go.
Speaker 3: Back to like when he was paired of speed in
Speaker 3: the last group of Augusta and he just got vaporized,
Speaker 3: blown out to sea, blown out to race, blown out
Speaker 3: to Rays Creek, a tributary.
Speaker 1: It's the other thing I just noticed with Rory is like,
Speaker 1: if you watch the way Speif misses a lot of times,
Speaker 1: Speith will miss short on the side of the green
Speaker 1: that he's got a lot of space. Just seems like
Speaker 1: Rory regularly short sized himself and it's just in the
Speaker 1: worst places. He misses long a lot, misses long and left.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: I think I'm probably gonna bring up the same thing.
Speaker 3: Here are you on the you in the anti JP
Speaker 3: chorus of that's right.
Speaker 2: There's this giant undercurrent of people, I mean, players, caddies,
Speaker 2: casual fans, knowledgeable fans, analysts, everybody's like there's this ground
Speaker 2: swell of anti JP sentiment out there t where they
Speaker 2: feel like he's constantly miss clubbed, He's constantly I.
Speaker 3: Don't I don't have a read on him.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm out there on the conversation like I
Speaker 2: don't know, but I feel like you you may have
Speaker 2: a better read on it.
Speaker 1: Sounds like many are saying that this is the problem.
Speaker 3: Many many people are saying this has potential to be
Speaker 3: fake news.
Speaker 1: Though also yeah, I mean, until you're there, I think
Speaker 1: it's the player's job to hit the shots.
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 4: I mean, does it like, does that mean JP was
Speaker 4: really killing it when Rory was the best player in
Speaker 4: the world and he was flagging everything and like, yeah,
Speaker 4: making every like I don't know, if I don't.
Speaker 3: Know, well, I think the other thing with Rory too
Speaker 3: is he's at what point, I mean, how many times
Speaker 3: has he changed the equipment now the last three or
Speaker 3: four years?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean I don't know when he switched
Speaker 2: from three.
Speaker 3: At least yeah, four titleists to Nike to Callaway Taylor made.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like at some point, like that's that's
Speaker 2: going to catch up with you, just just like an
Speaker 2: injury would, or just like it's just one more variable
Speaker 2: to consider.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand the whole putter thing, like he
Speaker 1: put it so well with the Scottie Cameron at the
Speaker 1: end of last year, Like he wins the Tour Championship,
Speaker 1: you know, he wins the FedEx Cup using that.
Speaker 2: It feels like it was five years ago. So that
Speaker 2: that's my thing with the whole equipment thing. And I
Speaker 2: know I can't you know, I'm not like the best A.
Speaker 2: I don't give a shit about equipment.
Speaker 1: I think I think we need to get a golf
Speaker 1: w RX forum guy on here and so much just.
Speaker 3: Start a thread about Tron's equipment takes and B like yeah, B.
Speaker 2: Like Callaway pays us in no lingo. So like I'm
Speaker 2: not you know, like I'm not the most well intentioned
Speaker 2: guy with equipment. And so for me, if DY felt like,
Speaker 2: all right, I like these irons i'm playing, I like
Speaker 2: the ball i'm playing, I love this driver i'm playing,
Speaker 2: that's great, but like the putter is kind of separate
Speaker 2: from all that, right, Like if if you really like,
Speaker 2: I mean, I heard anecdotes of he picked up that
Speaker 2: Scottie Cameron putter again and was putting with it. And
Speaker 2: he was like, man like, it's like back, like being
Speaker 2: with an old friend, you know.
Speaker 3: And and he was he was putting really really well
Speaker 3: with it. And and now he's using you know, he's he's.
Speaker 2: Switching back and forth between a mallet and it just
Speaker 2: seems like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean having four putters out there Saturday a
Speaker 4: couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Again, and it's, man, if you're trying to you know,
Speaker 2: if you've if you're really about playing the best stuff,
Speaker 2: and you can get paid for it too, But if
Speaker 2: you want to play the best stuff, then then play
Speaker 2: the best stuff and don't worry about this equipment contract
Speaker 2: stipulates that I have to have that potter in the back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's my that's my take.
Speaker 4: I think where I was going to go with it
Speaker 4: originally a tum andy here if he wants to talk
Speaker 4: about it, is I think there's a growing One of
Speaker 4: my favorite conspiracy theories is maybe Rory's not strategic enough
Speaker 4: of a player. And if you look at his US
Speaker 4: open history and you look at like some of the
Speaker 4: tracks where he's played well, some of the tracks where
Speaker 4: he hasn't played well, what you know, what does that
Speaker 4: say about the way that he plays and like, you know,
Speaker 4: you Andy, you kind of you kind of alluded to it,
Speaker 4: like at the US Open this year, I know, after Thursday,
Speaker 4: when you know, all these big names just got completely
Speaker 4: ejected on the first day for kind of trying to
Speaker 4: play bomb and gouge and it was it was kind
Speaker 4: of him, Jason Day, a lot of those guys, And
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm just I'm curious if you think
Speaker 4: there's any weight there or or.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's interesting to think about, but
Speaker 1: you always think about what if golf. Yeah, with technology
Speaker 1: the way it is, it's not possible to play at
Speaker 1: like the most strategic golf courses because their strategy has
Speaker 1: been rendered useless.
Speaker 4: Right, But it's almost like when you have everything going,
Speaker 4: when when you're just like flushing everything and Tiger, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean when you're when you're just unconscious playing video.
Speaker 3: Games with them.
Speaker 2: What's like, It's like Tiger at Litham when he was
Speaker 2: hitting two iron off every tea and it didn't matter
Speaker 2: if he was thirty yards behind everybody, because he was.
Speaker 4: When you're like playing, when you have that much control
Speaker 4: over what you're doing, like it's fine to play one
Speaker 4: way and as soon as you don't have total control
Speaker 4: over everything you're doing. It just seems like if you
Speaker 4: take the same lines, like, it's so much easier to
Speaker 4: get just ejected and missing all the wrong spots and
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think a good study is just if
Speaker 1: if you could go watch a round of golf, you know,
Speaker 1: when you can get to see Rory play with Speed,
Speaker 1: because to me, I think they're the complete on the
Speaker 1: polar opposite levels in terms of like Speith is the
Speaker 1: guy that you watch play and you say, how the
Speaker 1: hell did he just shoot sixty seven? He was all
Speaker 1: over the place, so he didn't do anything like he
Speaker 1: scraped it around.
Speaker 3: Which that quote literally came from Rory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they played together togainst it and then
Speaker 1: Rory's the guy that you watch and you're like, how
Speaker 1: the hell did he shoot sixty nine? He should have
Speaker 1: shot sixty five. Yeah, And it's interesting because if you
Speaker 1: watch where Speed misses, it's a lot different than where
Speaker 1: Rory misses.
Speaker 2: It's a lot more cerebral, right, I mean it's there,
Speaker 2: it's always well intentioned, it's always.
Speaker 1: He misses on. He doesn't short sight himself a lot,
Speaker 1: so it's a lot easier to get up and down.
Speaker 2: But so so my question for you is is that
Speaker 2: where greller comes into where because it's tough to it's
Speaker 2: tough to constantly be thinking of your misses and not.
Speaker 3: Start playing defensively.
Speaker 2: Versus I think like that's that's kind of that fine
Speaker 2: line between Hey, I want to miss in the right spots,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, I want to go with flags.
Speaker 1: I want to you know, So this is could be
Speaker 1: where the putting all comes into it, is that Rory's
Speaker 1: been struggling with his putter, so he feels like he
Speaker 1: has to hit it close to make Birdie's speeding notorious
Speaker 1: for rolling in twenty footers and fifteen footers, he doesn't
Speaker 1: feel the pressure to have to fire at flags and
Speaker 1: make Birdie. That could I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's true, but that could be part of it.
Speaker 2: Is the other thing, too, is speed, because I agree
Speaker 2: that's the that's the ultimate kind of case studies in
Speaker 2: different spheres of the game, kind of speed versus Rory
Speaker 2: into a less extent like on the Euros or Thomas
Speaker 2: Peters versus like a Matthew Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 3: But like I think it's also.
Speaker 2: By the time it's all said and done, Rory and
Speaker 2: Speed could SPIE's putter's cooled off some you know, some
Speaker 2: would say this year or in the last eighteen months,
Speaker 2: like is that something where Speed the way that he
Speaker 2: makes putts and the way that he kind of stacks
Speaker 2: him up in certain rounds, Like Rory may make the
Speaker 2: same number of those putts, but he's just he's he's
Speaker 2: either a streak year with it and he's not doing
Speaker 2: it in the same scenarios and he's doing it just
Speaker 2: kind of all stacking him up like late in a
Speaker 2: Sunday round like or you know, early on a Friday.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just there's a whole psychology I think
Speaker 1: when when you don't put well and when you know,
Speaker 1: like Rory knows he hasn't been putting well, like, it
Speaker 1: wears on the rest of.
Speaker 2: Your game through the Yeah, you start pressing, you need.
Speaker 1: To hit drivers further, so you need to set up
Speaker 1: you know, wedges that you can hit closer, and eventually
Speaker 1: you're going to make the mistake versus Speed. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's won twice this year, Speed and he's been in
Speaker 1: contention and a lot of times why he hasn't won
Speaker 1: more is because the putters putts just haven't fallen. But
Speaker 1: his process and understanding, hey, like I don't need to
Speaker 1: fire at every flag, yields him being in the hunt
Speaker 1: a lot. And I think, like anything, you can't make
Speaker 1: a lot of birdies without a lot of birdie opportunities.
Speaker 1: You can't win a lot of events without being in
Speaker 1: contention a lot.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the other thing. Do you do you think
Speaker 2: do you think Rory is held back by the fact
Speaker 2: that his driver's his strongest attribute, where you know, like
Speaker 2: he that's what he feels like his advantages, and if
Speaker 2: that's not firing on all cylinders, then there's not a
Speaker 2: whole lot of foundation there versus speed. That's like, you know,
Speaker 2: if everything, if the putter is his strongest attribute, that's
Speaker 2: his foundation, and right, there's not a whole lot else
Speaker 2: built upon it.
Speaker 3: With a bad putter, you can still shoot sixty nine.
Speaker 3: You're not bad driver.
Speaker 2: You're not as relying upon one putter or one one
Speaker 2: club because he can his putter can go cold and
Speaker 2: his ball strike and still good enough. Whereas if if
Speaker 2: Rory's you can only hit your driver so many times around, right,
Speaker 2: and then you got to just you know, club in
Speaker 2: from there and it's it's it's a different story.
Speaker 3: First thing. I mean you still see Rory beating up
Speaker 3: the par fives and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It says not a good air. If you want to
Speaker 1: win a lot of golf tournaments, it's not good to
Speaker 1: be struggling with your short irons and putter.
Speaker 2: But coming back to Birkdale, I think this is why
Speaker 2: this is like the ultimate. I would bet on Speak
Speaker 2: ten times out of ten if it was just Speed
Speaker 2: heads up versus Rory at Birkdale, because I think it
Speaker 2: takes the driver out of Rory's hands on.
Speaker 3: A lot of holes and on the holes that he's
Speaker 3: going to hit it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he may be thirty thirty yards ahead of Speed,
Speaker 2: but Spee's you know, half half wedge game is so
Speaker 2: good that I don't think it really it's that pick
Speaker 2: of an advantage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a short course. It's only seventy one yards,
Speaker 1: so it's if it's firm and fast like most of
Speaker 1: them play. It's not you don't have to necessarily be
Speaker 1: a bomber to sixteen here.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of there's a lot of blind t shots,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of you know, just really quirky shots
Speaker 2: that you got to hit to where you know you
Speaker 2: can't just bomb and golllege this course, you're gonna get ejected.
Speaker 1: So so of the guy of the established guys that
Speaker 1: have won major championships, who's your guys pick trying? It
Speaker 1: sounds like your team speed.
Speaker 3: Uh, for guys that have won before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Speed, and then I got I got Harrington in
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty to one.
Speaker 3: I think last weekend before. That'd be so fun. I
Speaker 3: love him. How about the follow up? See Padrick? All
Speaker 3: right here, let me let me just you.
Speaker 4: Know, let me just circle back to an earlier part
Speaker 4: of the conversation here. Padrack is also a guy that
Speaker 4: is long winded, that is tinkering constantly doing all kinds
Speaker 4: of weird.
Speaker 1: Though it's not like that's isn't it just because of
Speaker 1: his accent.
Speaker 3: No, he's not as being reverse racist straight out, He's
Speaker 3: not arrogant. It's not about Padrick.
Speaker 1: He's just he's just like, yeah, all Rightail, I love
Speaker 1: Padre and I love I mean, I was gonna say
Speaker 1: Speed too, but that's because I pick him to win
Speaker 1: every tournament.
Speaker 3: But he's due. I feel like he's been the last Yeah,
Speaker 3: oh dude, he's like he's hungry. Yeah, exactly. You Sabody
Speaker 3: won with a Travelers. Like as soon as he gets
Speaker 3: it going, I mean, it's gonna be He's gonna people's
Speaker 3: doors off.
Speaker 4: It also feels like, I mean, I know this is
Speaker 4: just the nature of golf being played every week in
Speaker 4: multiple places, but it feels like Dustin is like the.
Speaker 3: Most underrated player in the world right now.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's really flying under the radars.
Speaker 2: Yeah he doesn't, like he was getting four to one
Speaker 2: five to one odds and.
Speaker 3: Tournaments, yeah, four months, three four months, and like the
Speaker 3: only this is so funny, but how it happens with Gop.
Speaker 4: But like the only reason that he is like kind
Speaker 4: of quiet right now is just because he's like taking
Speaker 4: time off to hang out with his kid.
Speaker 2: And like, I don't know, he he allegedly got pushed
Speaker 2: down the stair or he allegedly fell on the stair, right.
Speaker 3: He I don't know. I mean I think he's gonna
Speaker 3: be up there.
Speaker 4: I think like him hitting you know, two three four
Speaker 4: irons all over that place and just putting himself in
Speaker 4: good shape, like.
Speaker 2: Because I think that's that's one of the underrated things
Speaker 2: about Dustin is how disciplined he can be.
Speaker 3: His game point hits.
Speaker 2: He hits a lot of two irons and three woods
Speaker 2: off tease where people just you him as some bomb
Speaker 2: and gallager.
Speaker 1: And it's not I'm going, I'm going Sergio. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like you.
Speaker 2: You think he's still hungry.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean the the Open is the tournament that
Speaker 1: you expected him to win forever, like he always it's
Speaker 1: he hits it so good, he's never out of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know he's he's got the piano office back.
Speaker 2: So the other thing that that worries, the thing that
Speaker 2: wears me a little bit about Sergio is the greens.
Speaker 2: It is supposed to be pretty windy later in the week,
Speaker 2: the greens might be a little slower.
Speaker 3: And just putting in the wind is hard.
Speaker 1: So I think the wind actually diminishes putting skill because
Speaker 1: it's really hard to make long putts when it's windy.
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's really hard. It's really hard to get
Speaker 2: lag putts close to Yeah, you.
Speaker 3: End up having to make a lot of eight footers.
Speaker 1: That's what Sergio is great at, right, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who you know going into the guys
Speaker 1: that haven't won. You know, we've had seven straight first
Speaker 1: time major winners. Lee Westwood was a great.
Speaker 3: Literally, yeah, he just looks rock solid over those three footers.
Speaker 1: This might be Lee's last chance, last real good chance.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be in the Masters next year.
Speaker 1: He's got to be in the top fifty in the world.
Speaker 2: And I could getting on his horse and winning like
Speaker 2: one of those roll Lex couple events and.
Speaker 3: Dubai or.
Speaker 2: Something next year.
Speaker 3: You know he's gonna ball out at the ned Bank
Speaker 3: Challenge next year. Guys like I feel like that. I
Speaker 3: feel like a parent.
Speaker 2: That's like divorced. And then we're getting into the Leashman
Speaker 2: next and like Andy's gonna.
Speaker 3: Shoot on leish I never have.
Speaker 1: I just I just have pointed out.
Speaker 2: I just think it's poor timing. Leishman just had a kid,
Speaker 2: you know, but he's I don't know. I just I
Speaker 2: think of two irons off tees and I think of
Speaker 2: that driving iron that speed has.
Speaker 1: To Yeah, you know, what about your brother Jason Day?
Speaker 2: Then Jason Day stinks his ball flight's too high, he
Speaker 2: can't grind.
Speaker 3: He stinks what about Ricky?
Speaker 1: What about Ricky?
Speaker 3: What about the Rictator totally.
Speaker 1: I love Ricky.
Speaker 3: I like that he didn't win last week.
Speaker 2: That helps in Scotland. I think that helps immensely. You
Speaker 2: don't want to drain the reserves. Man, we didn't talk
Speaker 2: about Andy's boy. Uh Romulus, I mean blew everybody away.
Speaker 3: Two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: He he showed that his game might be better across
Speaker 1: the pond, I mean the whole.
Speaker 3: Across the I know.
Speaker 1: It's uh.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm surprised you haven't done a deep dive
Speaker 2: on like his amateur career. Him playing in the amateur
Speaker 2: and he won the better events.
Speaker 1: I think he won the Spanish and twice.
Speaker 2: No, but i'll talk about the ones in the British Isles.
Speaker 1: I don't think he played the Eisenhower Trophy one year.
Speaker 1: I don't think he play the.
Speaker 2: Amateur and like the I don't know if he played
Speaker 2: the English amateur or the Irish amateur.
Speaker 1: I did a deep dive on John Brown's amateur career
Speaker 1: a while ago.
Speaker 2: But I don't So you've left some little, little a
Speaker 2: trail of breadcrumbs that's not quite picked up yet.
Speaker 1: You can, I mean you can go on the site
Speaker 1: and read it. But I don't think he did anything
Speaker 1: crazy in on the British isles, he did most of
Speaker 1: his damage.
Speaker 2: And started started chasing splittail.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean mostly got to the States. He like
Speaker 1: the life in the States.
Speaker 3: But I mean.
Speaker 1: He's another guy you can't the way he hits the ball.
Speaker 2: The odds are crazy. He's like, it's like DJ.
Speaker 3: Him.
Speaker 2: There's like four guys that are that are.
Speaker 3: Basically co favorites, and he's one of the co favorites,
Speaker 3: probably those two Speak and Rory, right, yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: even think Rory. I think Rory's like behind those guys.
Speaker 3: Rory's always a betting favorite, though.
Speaker 1: You know who I kind of like this week who
Speaker 1: hasn't won a major yet is Hideki.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can say that he's gonna win a British
Speaker 3: at some point.
Speaker 4: The bat like the whole wind kind of neutralizing the
Speaker 4: putting a little bit seems to play in his.
Speaker 3: In his favor. I think Dey's gonna win at CARNOUSTI
Speaker 3: mm hmm. I like that Carnosie next year. I think
Speaker 3: what about Bryson this week? I don't even I didn't
Speaker 3: even know Riyson on a passport, and.
Speaker 1: Bryson's game is kind of good for a British Opening.
Speaker 1: It's a good.
Speaker 3: It's going a short story because you don't have a
Speaker 3: data on the course. I feel like there's no shot link,
Speaker 3: there's no shot link. He can't he can't feed Watson.
Speaker 1: I feel like Fleetwood is getting just so much hype
Speaker 1: and it's well deserved by his play, but it's gotten
Speaker 1: the kind of outrageous levels where people everybody's like listed
Speaker 1: him as a favorite.
Speaker 2: Well, so you know what kind of pisses me off
Speaker 2: is that's people not doing their homework. Because Fleetwood, when
Speaker 2: we talked to him without the players, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're from Southport, England, Like, you know, you must be
Speaker 2: really really excited for the Open this year. And he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm pumped to go home. But like, I've never really
Speaker 2: put Hillside in formby a lot, but I've never played
Speaker 2: Birkedale all that much. Like I don't like he's it's
Speaker 2: kind of an unfamiliar course, just like it is to
Speaker 2: most of these young guys.
Speaker 3: So what do you all?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Two guys, two guys that I like a lot, and
Speaker 3: this is going to shock you shock the world, all right?
Speaker 2: Ustazan first of all fifty to one through some money
Speaker 2: on him just because I feel like I don't know
Speaker 2: that guy's almost got what three majors?
Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to say this.
Speaker 4: I feel bad saying this because I love Louie, love Louis,
Speaker 4: But Louie's deep in the Westwood game.
Speaker 3: He's he's turning into South African Westwood pretty quick.
Speaker 2: But I don't think he cares though, he doesn't care
Speaker 2: that much. So and he's already won.
Speaker 3: One, so what do he is? Just like the switch
Speaker 3: is gonna flip this week?
Speaker 2: And like no, he just doesn't. It's it's just another tournament.
Speaker 3: I don't know what.
Speaker 1: And then the what about Paul Casey?
Speaker 4: I mean so good, I could bet on Paul Casey,
Speaker 4: but he's another one that like again, like I love
Speaker 4: Casey and he does everything well, but like what was
Speaker 4: the last thing that he wants?
Speaker 1: He hasn't won him forever forever, I think anywhere, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been years.
Speaker 2: Well and just to climb back to where he was
Speaker 2: to even getting his PGA Tour card back, that was
Speaker 2: that was a lot of energy right there. So the
Speaker 2: guy I was going to say earlier was was was Couture.
Speaker 2: Fardy picked him this week.
Speaker 3: Oh I would love that too.
Speaker 2: He's seventy five on Fardy said he was just glowing
Speaker 2: about his ball flight, which I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: just like a kind of like a women's like women's
Speaker 2: seven would just yeah.
Speaker 3: It's a low. He's going to swoop in and win
Speaker 3: the Rico British Women's British Open. Yeah yeah yeah, weed
Speaker 3: Bis yeah sure no yeah, shorter course too, yeah.
Speaker 2: So I just I don't know, I feel like Coucher
Speaker 2: plays well on.
Speaker 3: On. Uh.
Speaker 2: I actually I don't even know where Couture plays well.
Speaker 2: I just he could backdoor this thing, that's all.
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: What about that? Brian Harmon, Yeah, I know you're I
Speaker 1: think the tank, I.
Speaker 3: Think the tanks a little bit well right now. I
Speaker 3: expect you to play well this past week.
Speaker 1: So recent reason, uh, outside of Rory, recent Open Championship
Speaker 1: winners have been really old guys. I mean you got Stenson,
Speaker 1: Phil Coach, So that's something to keep in mind. I
Speaker 1: mean I think that links golf lends itself to more
Speaker 1: experience and it's not I.
Speaker 2: Think, especially this course versus say Ah, I don't know,
Speaker 2: like I mean maybe I think Carnoustie kind of comes
Speaker 2: down to a little bit more chance and look and
Speaker 2: driving the ball well, but like this one's more, hey,
Speaker 2: just like take your medicine and get the ball out
Speaker 2: there to seventy to eighty and then go from there.
Speaker 2: And then Cooch too, Like I was blown away at
Speaker 2: how many I think in every interview this week he
Speaker 2: referenced being like trying to prepare for the Open Championship more.
Speaker 3: And if you look at his.
Speaker 2: Record in the Open Championship from say twenty ten to now,
Speaker 2: he never did anything until like two years ago. Then
Speaker 2: he got like like T nine or something last year
Speaker 2: and he's like, man, like, what can I do to
Speaker 2: prepare for this even better?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come over.
Speaker 2: And play the Scottish Open, Like I feel like this
Speaker 2: is the tournament other than maybe Augusta, that he really
Speaker 2: wants to win for whatever reason.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to war for Kosher. I put some
Speaker 3: money on him this week. What about Phil fits a
Speaker 3: lot of the things we're talking about here.
Speaker 2: Tell you who I think fills in his own head
Speaker 2: the older the.
Speaker 1: Older guys that I kind of think could be the
Speaker 1: ones that come through Rose and Scott, because.
Speaker 3: I always forget about those two guys.
Speaker 1: They're flying under the radar.
Speaker 3: They always are. They're so good.
Speaker 1: It's like, I haven't heard much about Scott. I saw
Speaker 1: somewhere he's got more top tens and and opens than
Speaker 1: anybody in the last like eight years or something like that.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about Scott just from a purely driving
Speaker 2: the ball keeping employment. He's playing really really well right
Speaker 2: now too. But just I don't know, it just comes
Speaker 2: back to the putter. You just I have a tough time.
Speaker 2: I know there's gonna be win. I have a tough
Speaker 2: time picking guys that don't putt well. But maybe that's
Speaker 2: just my biases creeping in.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, so Adam Scott overrated, underrated. It's a good
Speaker 3: segue career wise. Woh, my computer battery is getting down there.
Speaker 1: All right, I'd say Scott.
Speaker 3: Man, you might be all right.
Speaker 1: I think underrated because he was so good for so
Speaker 1: like the consistency has me say underrated.
Speaker 3: That's a good point.
Speaker 1: I value consistency.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 2: But he might be a globalist Switzerland Bahamas doesn't really
Speaker 2: doesn't really have a home country anymore.
Speaker 3: Citizens of the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he plays the world schedule, global elite.
Speaker 1: We got we got a ton of stuff on Twitter.
Speaker 3: Here, pluck your computer, DJ, let's start bucking our heads.
Speaker 1: Overrated, underrated from car for the course, playing the Irish
Speaker 1: and or Scottish Open to prep for the Open.
Speaker 3: And that's such a good question, DJ, go for it. Well,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, Uh, I'm trying to.
Speaker 4: Think about just the like the guys who've done it
Speaker 4: recently and the guys who have won. I'm gonna say
Speaker 4: it's slightly overrated. I think it's a little overrated. I think, like,
Speaker 4: I think it's just kind of like a fun thing.
Speaker 3: I think guys like I think, I think people go
Speaker 3: through these trends and honestly, I think it's more like
Speaker 3: right driven.
Speaker 4: Than it is like player driven. I think, like who
Speaker 4: chooses to like highlight these things? But like, yeah, and
Speaker 4: I think that like a couple of years ago, if
Speaker 4: you remember, like it was all about oh he loves
Speaker 4: playing the week before major Ricky loves playing three weeks before.
Speaker 2: Like guys that have played the week before at the
Speaker 2: Scottish opin guys that have skipped the week before and
Speaker 2: guys that have played.
Speaker 3: The John Deere. I think it's yeah, the last nine. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm going to say it's a little I'm gonna say
Speaker 3: it's overrated. I love it. I'm all in.
Speaker 4: I love watching those guys. I didn't really watch it
Speaker 4: this year, but I'd love watching the guys go over
Speaker 4: and play. And I love having two weeks where you
Speaker 4: kind of get a early and watch golf your coffee
Speaker 4: in the morning.
Speaker 2: But shout out to NBC too. Yeah, they in Golf Channel.
Speaker 2: They killed it the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: But I'll say I'll stay a little overrated.
Speaker 2: I will say I think it's probably overrated as far
Speaker 2: as prep goes, maybe playing both. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's underrated. I think more
Speaker 2: guys should do it just for the game and for
Speaker 2: just kind of I feel like the guys that appreciate
Speaker 2: playing golf do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like a fun time to go do it.
Speaker 1: It's like a bad spot on the schedule.
Speaker 3: Also, I mean, don't don't talk about the John Dear
Speaker 3: like that. Bro. No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's it's something where I feel like the
Speaker 2: euro Tours on the right track with this Rolex series.
Speaker 3: I think they should.
Speaker 2: If I can go off on a little segue here,
Speaker 2: I think the the governing bo or the tour should
Speaker 2: do something to where like personally, I think it's bs
Speaker 2: that there's not more.
Speaker 3: Guys playing in Australia every year.
Speaker 2: I know it's tough to get to but there's guys
Speaker 2: going over and playing in the HSBC and the Dunlop
Speaker 2: Phoenix and they're gonna have that PGA Tour event.
Speaker 3: In Korea this year.
Speaker 2: Where if you're going all the way over to Australia
Speaker 2: to play or to you know, all the way over
Speaker 2: to Hong Kong or to Shanghai to play for a
Speaker 2: week or two, that's what a five or six hour flight,
Speaker 2: maybe an eight hour flight from Australia, but you can
Speaker 2: kind of skip up to Singapore.
Speaker 3: And then from there.
Speaker 2: Like I think the schedule should be more segmented to
Speaker 2: allow for these guys to visit different parts of the
Speaker 2: world and do it for three weeks at a time
Speaker 2: and make it worth it. And the fact that there's
Speaker 2: only two events in Australia now versus three kind of
Speaker 2: makes me mad. And I think it's the same thing
Speaker 2: like the Irish Open almost died what six five six
Speaker 2: years ago, like there was you know, the economy was
Speaker 2: was fluttering and all that. But I think the euro
Speaker 2: Tours on the right track with this Rolex thing. I
Speaker 2: just think they need to tighten it up a little bit.
Speaker 2: I get that Turkey event out of there.
Speaker 1: I think the European Tour needs to become like the
Speaker 1: World Tour.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh it's it's definitely a misnomer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it needs to and it needs to get Asia
Speaker 1: and Australia and on it.
Speaker 2: You know, like there should be a WGC in Australia
Speaker 2: every year.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I completely agree with that. It's probably one
Speaker 1: of the best golfing countries in the world. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's tons of great golf courses and.
Speaker 2: In its primetime golf, Like if you if you have
Speaker 2: a tournament there, you can put golf on from like
Speaker 2: nine to one am in the States and on a
Speaker 2: and shit, have it on a Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday
Speaker 2: or something like that and it's like midweek prime time.
Speaker 2: You market at the right way. That's crazy ratings.
Speaker 1: All right, We're getting back to the questions who gets
Speaker 1: more to ur wins in their career, Wes Bryan or
Speaker 1: Bryson d Schambeau from Mike Yost.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean I'm going to stay consistent here and say, Bryson,
Speaker 4: I think if you just look at like, I mean,
Speaker 4: I know this isn't indicative of everything, but just look
Speaker 4: at you know, I know you're like this too, any
Speaker 4: but you always look at like how guys have played
Speaker 4: at every level, and usually that's the best indicator of
Speaker 4: kind of like just how they've always played against their peers.
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, Wes obviously is massively overachieving
Speaker 4: now in relation to what he did in college and
Speaker 4: what he did his mamet and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Where probably just all around games. Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: I think Bryson is head and shoulders above Wes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. The thing I think is Wes is
Speaker 1: going to play at about ten courses a year really well,
Speaker 1: like Harbortown, John by Sony yeah, Greenbriar, you're but Bryson.
Speaker 1: You probably wouldn't have picked Bryson to win it. John
Speaker 1: Deere as like his place to win.
Speaker 3: He can win.
Speaker 1: He can win at any course. So just because of that,
Speaker 1: Bryson gonna get more winds.
Speaker 2: I think I think Bryson's also going to go through
Speaker 2: more peaks and valleys too, Like I think he'll go
Speaker 2: through longer spells of you know, kind of really bad
Speaker 2: results as well, whereas Wes Bryan has kind of the
Speaker 2: His strength is the putting and that'll carry him through
Speaker 2: a little bit too.
Speaker 1: All right, Overrated Underrated from Oakley Harrington's baseball swing during.
Speaker 3: Got Underrated Man under It. Yeah, I'm all in. I mean,
Speaker 3: I love just I'm in on all that stuff.
Speaker 4: I'm in on when he was doing like he used
Speaker 4: to do, like a happy Gilmour is like a legit
Speaker 4: part of his you know, warm up. He was out
Speaker 4: there with like the straight jacket looking thing he's out
Speaker 4: there with, like with everything, I'm in on all of it.
Speaker 3: I am too.
Speaker 2: I think the one I think Padreg is probably the
Speaker 2: most conflicting character for me, just in terms of I
Speaker 2: really didn't I don't know if I didn't appreciate him
Speaker 2: when he was winning all his majors or just didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what to think.
Speaker 2: And then I've always been like since he came out
Speaker 2: of the wilderness, Sergio and all the all the anecdotes
Speaker 2: I hear about Sergio and podrig where like Sergio just
Speaker 2: basically shitting over Padre and like almost making him cry.
Speaker 2: I was like it just that stuff made me sad
Speaker 2: to where I'm like, man, it questions my allegiance to
Speaker 2: Sergio because how could you be mean to Padrig Harrington
Speaker 2: seems a future Ryder Cup captain, future, you know, so
Speaker 2: I mean, shit, how about Padre maybe making a run
Speaker 2: for for Ryder Cup.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, we're a long we're not talking about we
Speaker 1: should be talking about huh. Yeah. I heard rumors that
Speaker 1: you might be placing a fact fa in the President's Cup.
Speaker 3: Those are just rumors for now.
Speaker 1: So if you were a young budding professional, would you
Speaker 1: start out on the web or the euro Tour? This
Speaker 1: is from Eric Nelson.
Speaker 2: I think it all depends on resources, right, It's not
Speaker 2: it's not cheap the planet on the euro Tour probably
Speaker 2: cheaper now than it was three or four years ago
Speaker 2: with the with the exchange rate. But but yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean that's you know, if you're Peter you Line. I'm
Speaker 2: a huge Peter you Lin fan. But you can fly
Speaker 2: around on the jet to all these nice places that
Speaker 2: then hell yeah, but you grind Brooks did it.
Speaker 3: I don't know what Brooks's background necessarily was, is like financially,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure you know, you get.
Speaker 2: Sponsored money, and he was, well, I think it all
Speaker 2: just depends on your background.
Speaker 1: This is your you're you're a future star, yeah say
Speaker 1: you're uh, but.
Speaker 3: Future you know, but past success doesn't always I mean
Speaker 3: you you line is a good example of that, actually,
Speaker 3: where like you know, who has come out of college
Speaker 3: recently with more promise or more heat than you Line did,
Speaker 3: And I mean it's taken him quite a while to
Speaker 3: kind of make good on a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 4: Actually, that's like, that's one of my favorite pods that
Speaker 4: Solid did. One of my favorite no laying up pods
Speaker 4: was with Peter Elin and just talking about how like,
Speaker 4: you know, it almost seemed like he it seems like
Speaker 4: a lot of times, like the experience of playing the
Speaker 4: European Tour, or.
Speaker 3: Playing the Challenge Tour, or doing any of these things.
Speaker 4: Like kind of gets wasted on these guys a lot
Speaker 4: of the time, and you Line seemed like the total
Speaker 4: opposite to where like he almost seemed like he cared
Speaker 4: too much about like taking in the culture and kind
Speaker 4: of like I think.
Speaker 2: That's my one thing with Kopka to where I don't
Speaker 2: think Kepka would have won the US Open if he
Speaker 2: in all things being equal, if.
Speaker 3: He came up through the web dot Com Tour and.
Speaker 2: Played, say, the Utah Championship instead of playing the Scottish
Speaker 2: Open last week, or playing uh, you know, like uh
Speaker 2: the Boise Albertson's Open instead of instead of playing the
Speaker 2: Madeira Islands Open, and learn how to play a firm
Speaker 2: and fast course.
Speaker 3: Like I don't think that.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Web Tour stuff necessarily prepares you
Speaker 2: for being a world class diverse player, like playing over
Speaker 2: there does you know where?
Speaker 3: Like to me, when when when Kepka won at I'm
Speaker 3: not a I'm not a huge Kopka fan, but when Kepka.
Speaker 2: Won at Aaron Hills, the defining moment for me was
Speaker 2: when was that short part for.
Speaker 3: You laid up? Yeah, when he laid up made Birdie
Speaker 3: but like.
Speaker 2: Stuffed that wedge in there, that's nine iron or whatever
Speaker 2: you hit in there and and did it. I don't know,
Speaker 2: like didn't didn't try to overpower it, but knew knew
Speaker 2: what his capabilities were, knew what the percentage plays were
Speaker 2: and still executed it. Like to me, most of the
Speaker 2: guys playing on the web Tour would have just bombed
Speaker 2: a driver down there and then tried to try to
Speaker 2: get up and down from seventy yards. So and that's
Speaker 2: not and that's not a slide on the Web tour.
Speaker 2: Like I know, the Web Tour, they'd like to play
Speaker 2: better courses.
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of it's just tough, you know.
Speaker 2: There's just not a whole lot of places that want
Speaker 2: to host and give away their their course for two
Speaker 2: weeks in the middle of prime season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'd rather play the European Tour, but
Speaker 1: it's also a lot harder to make feasible financially a.
Speaker 2: Family or you know, if you have any sort of connection,
Speaker 2: if you have a serious long term girlfriend and she's
Speaker 2: not you know, caddying forty or what like, that's that's
Speaker 2: it's just it's it's kind of I think it's just
Speaker 2: totally different realities, you know. And if you have the
Speaker 2: wherewithal to do that, then then then go do it.
Speaker 2: No brainer in my opinion.
Speaker 1: So CAV wants to know what's worst. Sketchers or blade collars.
Speaker 4: Man, Uh, it's been a while since I've owned a
Speaker 4: pair of Sketchers, I think a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about Skechers going after grand.
Speaker 3: H I think I could make I think I I
Speaker 3: think I could make the blade color work for me
Speaker 3: better than the Sketchers.
Speaker 1: I would say, what about Sketchers going after a grand delay?
Speaker 3: That was aggressive, brazen, brazing.
Speaker 2: I uh so, here's my thing with Sketchers, And we're
Speaker 2: putting Brooke Henderson aside here because she doesn't count because
Speaker 2: I feel like she's like in Sketchers Captivity, They're like
Speaker 2: they're holding her against her will. Nobody's ever won a
Speaker 2: major wearing Sketchers, So if they want to play.
Speaker 3: The whole, nobody, you know, could Rusk.
Speaker 2: Grandas never worn a or he's never won a tour event.
Speaker 2: All right, cool, cool, nobody's ever won a major in Sketchers,
Speaker 2: which which brings me to my next guy, Andy Overrated, underrated.
Speaker 2: This was a question, Yeah, but everything changes, it's constantly shifting.
Speaker 1: As I as I said about Adam Scott, I value consistency. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going underrated.
Speaker 2: You're such a Midwesterner.
Speaker 3: Uh, I'll say, very very very very very slightly underrated.
Speaker 3: I think I think he's pretty accurately rated. He's not
Speaker 3: even from the Midwest. What the hell are you guys
Speaker 3: talking about?
Speaker 2: Just just in general, like you're just overlate, you're just
Speaker 2: so American and you're underly critical.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Here, here's a good question, Ben McNamara, which Spaniard has
Speaker 1: the best chance to to open?
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I'm gonna say rom just based
Speaker 3: on current form. Man, I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 3: That might be even money. Is Pablo in the field?
Speaker 1: Cut? I was gonna go with.
Speaker 2: Or Gonzale for non news Castano. I think I think
Speaker 2: he's probably playing in the fous all this week.
Speaker 1: Pablo is in the field. I also I'm a sleeper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I almost put him as a sleeper. He hasn't been
Speaker 1: playing well lately though. He missed the cut this week,
Speaker 1: and I think that was the week before.
Speaker 2: That seems to be the ticket though, if you've missed
Speaker 2: the cut recently, probably gonna win the next week, all right,
Speaker 2: alex noran underrated overrated shout out sally.
Speaker 1: Are we talking about like where he's rated in the
Speaker 1: in the world rankings?
Speaker 3: No, just in general, just in people's minds.
Speaker 1: Oh man, he just he gets so much hype lately.
Speaker 1: I think he's almost overrated. But I I am firmly
Speaker 1: in the belief of like he's won so much lately
Speaker 1: that he's underrated.
Speaker 2: All right, that was a bad question. Can we talk
Speaker 2: about the qualifying just just the field in general.
Speaker 3: For there's a lot of so I watch a lot
Speaker 3: of golf, I follow a lot of golf a lot.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of names in this field that I
Speaker 3: have not heard of before. It is like there's some
Speaker 3: swaths of this field that are pretty uh pretty Richard
Speaker 3: Slash Adam Bland I would say.
Speaker 1: You're talking about like Mike Lorenzo Vera.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, question.
Speaker 2: I don't know a lot about Mike's career. How did
Speaker 2: Maverick mcneally get in? I like Maverick McNeely, But but
Speaker 2: I mean there's a tie. There's a tie, dude not
Speaker 2: named curd aban rat or tongue traje I to eat.
Speaker 3: It's there.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming Castro running because he made the FedEx Cup
Speaker 2: like play finals.
Speaker 3: Probably Yeah, yeah, Mike Lorenzo Vera, Well, I think that
Speaker 3: the biggest point that comes down to you know, we
Speaker 3: had was Texans earlier today about it about how you know.
Speaker 4: Xander doesn't get in, Yeah, it doesn't get in for
Speaker 4: a fifth place finish at the US Open, but ends
Speaker 4: up getting in you know, for winning the Green Brier
Speaker 4: based on like which is a worse field and and
Speaker 4: all these things and not even that.
Speaker 2: But like the guy he would have come in, he
Speaker 2: would have come in second or third at the Green
Speaker 2: still would have gotten in.
Speaker 3: The guy who finishes eighth at the Greenbrier whatever it
Speaker 3: shook out to be that week.
Speaker 4: And and I know Streb was a beneficiary of this
Speaker 4: as well, but uh, that's that's a little shaky.
Speaker 1: Hey. So McNeely got in because of the mccorn Meca metal,
Speaker 1: which is given top ranked top ranked am. So that's
Speaker 1: pretty legit.
Speaker 3: You know, I would get that.
Speaker 1: He's he played pretty well at John Finally.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no, no, Like I'm fine with him getting in.
Speaker 2: I was just curious as to he didn't win the
Speaker 2: US Say, like, I'm just thinking consistently titles and all that, But.
Speaker 3: How did g Wan Kim get in?
Speaker 1: I don't care to look up that.
Speaker 2: All right, So here's something that that kind of pisses
Speaker 2: me off. The US Open has that qualifier over in
Speaker 2: the British Isles to get into the US Open, Like
Speaker 2: it's like a sectional qualifier over there. The British Open
Speaker 2: has nothing like that.
Speaker 3: On this side of the pond, they don't. They don't
Speaker 3: have one here. I don't think they have one here.
Speaker 1: Most positive, it's all done through the tour events, so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: But there's a bunch more Yeah, but I guess and
Speaker 3: they've got they've.
Speaker 2: Got a lot more spots with the qualifying series. But still,
Speaker 2: and I like the qualifying series. I think that's sweet.
Speaker 2: I think the fact that a guy can get in.
Speaker 3: But I just.
Speaker 2: I do think there needs to be more emphasis placed
Speaker 2: on the US Open. If you play well at the
Speaker 2: US Open, you get into Open.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 3: There's names in this field man.
Speaker 1: Top ten in the US Open to get you into
Speaker 1: the British Open, like Trey mullen.
Speaker 2: Versus like top four, like top four at the you know,
Speaker 2: because I think this too is a very developmental experience,
Speaker 2: Like if somebody gets into this tournament, that's that's invaluable
Speaker 2: for their career development as far as especially a guy
Speaker 2: like a Mullen Axer probably hasn't played a whole lot
Speaker 2: over in Europe, played well, we played college in the States.
Speaker 2: You know, he's not he's not all that familiar with it,
Speaker 2: Like this will challenge his game and help his game.
Speaker 1: This is an interesting tidbit that a a major champion
Speaker 1: told me that the US Open. He said that the Open, clever,
Speaker 1: the Open Championship is the easiest major to win of
Speaker 1: all the majors because of the draw and yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that the chance for the weather eliminating half the field.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, So the Open is the easiest major to
Speaker 1: win of any major.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think if you look at like I
Speaker 3: was thinking about this earlier, I mean, the Masters has
Speaker 3: the worst field obviously of all the majors. Well, it's
Speaker 3: not the worst field, it's the least it's small.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this is kind of like like this strength
Speaker 4: of field here is like almost feels the same, except
Speaker 4: it's just kind of like one and a half times
Speaker 4: bigger and so like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: And then the PGA Championship overcompensates for having the theory,
Speaker 2: but they have the top hundred five, one hundred and
Speaker 2: ten players in the world there, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean it's still I mean, it's still harder to
Speaker 2: win than any other Like, I don't know. To me,
Speaker 2: I think it's more impressive to win the British Open
Speaker 2: than it is to win a players championship, even though
Speaker 2: the players might have I don't know, statistically twice as
Speaker 2: good of a field, just because it's just such a
Speaker 2: distinctly different I do.
Speaker 3: I think that the point of form of golf. I
Speaker 3: think the point about the draw is a good one.
Speaker 4: That like it is impressive that, like, I mean, the
Speaker 4: year Darren Clark won was like, I mean, it was
Speaker 4: like a you know, statistical anomaly basically that year.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just like there were so many
Speaker 3: dudes that just had literally like no chance. That was
Speaker 3: a black swamp that was shout out there. That's that
Speaker 3: dude's name, Larry David No not to leave or whatever,
Speaker 3: the black swan dude the book deep. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: know whatever. We're going, all right, That's that's it. We
Speaker 3: got more of it.
Speaker 2: You got like what, I don't know, one or two more.
Speaker 1: Just we'll go quick ones, all right, let's get losing,
Speaker 1: all right. A couple of people ask me. People are
Speaker 1: asking many are asking about Poulter's resurgence and the possibility
Speaker 1: of a Patrick Reid Poulter final match and a Rider
Speaker 1: pup who wins.
Speaker 3: M hm, where is it this next?
Speaker 1: Rider?
Speaker 2: France yeah, I think Patrick Reid might have a seizure
Speaker 2: in France. So read and ram Or paired together this week.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, which could be there? Could be?
Speaker 1: Right. There was another question about how many structible Captain
Speaker 1: America Pat Reid missed the top ten by.
Speaker 2: I don't think like the guy. He's incapable of hitting
Speaker 2: a left to right Paul. And there's certain holes that
Speaker 2: burked out where you have to hit have to hit
Speaker 2: it left to right.
Speaker 1: So I wish there was betting that you could short
Speaker 1: people like you could you know, short stacks like I
Speaker 1: wish you could bet on the world golf rankings.
Speaker 2: It sounds like you just need to pull more resources
Speaker 2: bet everybody else. Besides, as you're shorting.
Speaker 1: That's a good point.
Speaker 2: This sounds like a like like a business opportunity. That's
Speaker 2: what I'm hearing it does.
Speaker 1: Let's see what else have we got here?
Speaker 3: I did think so.
Speaker 2: Kurt Byron probably said this three times this weekend. He's
Speaker 2: like man Ian Poulter is playing better because he feels
Speaker 2: like the deck is stacked against him again, like he's
Speaker 2: got something he's got to chip on his shoulder again.
Speaker 3: He's not comfortable anymore.
Speaker 2: He's playing for something that you know, that's I feel
Speaker 2: like Patrick Reid's kind of that same way. Yeah, we're like,
Speaker 2: it's like, I feel like we need to just revoke
Speaker 2: Patrick Reid's tour card. And she's like, hey man, you
Speaker 2: got to earn yourbody back on like he'd probably just
Speaker 2: start killing it.
Speaker 3: You've be your badging gun.
Speaker 1: Too much good press. He should never have gone on Farida.
Speaker 1: So uh, here's here's a good press. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: a good point. I had an interesting one here. I
Speaker 1: lost it though. Oh here, I just love this this
Speaker 1: comment from Tucker. Tucker blanket, ship, blank and ship, yeah,
Speaker 1: blank and ship when Nick rib this is another cut Friday.
Speaker 1: What's the percentage chance of Johnny bringing back the tight
Speaker 1: shirt theory on this one year anniversary?
Speaker 2: Probably sixty and then and then and then adding a
Speaker 2: little blade collared.
Speaker 3: Dig in that well, it depends what the weathers did.
Speaker 3: It could be a tight sweater.
Speaker 2: I did see Rory, so Rory's scripting called for a sweater. No, sorry,
Speaker 2: that was JT's scripting.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say last thing. Let's talk about JT's
Speaker 3: I'm reserving judgment until I see it. Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: that's responsible. It's responsible. Take it's just I don't know
Speaker 3: like that. That that was strictly meant for golf divers
Speaker 3: to be like, oh my god, you're not gonna believe
Speaker 3: what JT Squaring. Yeah, I'm with you. Let's let's pull
Speaker 3: does a good job.
Speaker 1: Man. People are forgetting Ryan Moore. H yeah, Ryan Moore
Speaker 1: was this guy five years ago?
Speaker 3: Shut up, shout out j Riggedon love. I love Ryan Moore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's ahead of a curve.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Ryan Moore oprated? Underrating, underrated, way underrated.
Speaker 1: Right underrated. He hasn't played very well this year though.
Speaker 3: He's been hurt. Andy, do you have the the Illinois
Speaker 3: Amateur coming on tomorrow?
Speaker 1: Tomorrow tomorrow?
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you're listening to that. Why are you not?
Speaker 3: Why are you not in bed right now? Man?
Speaker 1: I got I got I'm in a late I got
Speaker 1: a late tea time. I'm at like one for in the.
Speaker 3: TV window featured pair you know, who's your feature pairing?
Speaker 1: Who are you with? I'm with I'm playing with this
Speaker 1: kid that plays at Miami of Ohio supposed to be
Speaker 1: a good player.
Speaker 2: Wow, get a shout out, big Randy, solidly.
Speaker 1: Almost one last year before Nick Hardy. Uh blew everybody
Speaker 1: up to see in the final two.
Speaker 3: Rounds you playing with Ben Curtis now unfortunately he can't stay.
Speaker 3: I can't stay.
Speaker 1: Sorry.
Speaker 2: Uh all right, last take Nick Hardy? Overrated, underrated? Career wise?
Speaker 2: Are you going with Nick Hardy.
Speaker 3: Or do you j J put them on the spot.
Speaker 3: There was a line of nations listening to podcast.
Speaker 2: He's starting to just sment right now. Yea, I.
Speaker 1: Myers had a better amateur career, but I like Hardy
Speaker 1: because he's got a gas gas pedal. He he shot
Speaker 1: twenty eight under in our stadium last year over four rounds,
Speaker 1: which is just insanity anywhere. It wasn't a hardcourt.
Speaker 3: What did you shoot?
Speaker 1: I shot? I shot plus four for my two rounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I was gonna keep it within forty shots
Speaker 1: if I made the catch, finish the raise.
Speaker 3: But you played that.
Speaker 1: No, it was that Saint Charles, the easy, easy track.
Speaker 2: But I say, oh, he's gonna diminish, it's gonna pump
Speaker 2: him up the n I's gonna tear him down.
Speaker 1: It was slow, it was soft.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It was set up for how many do you win by?
Speaker 1: He won by ten. He beat TK he beat t
Speaker 1: K Kelly by ten who.
Speaker 2: Just want to narcos sewer event shout out t K
Speaker 2: up at thunder Bay, Ontario last weekend, playing the playing
Speaker 2: the Mackenzie Tour.
Speaker 1: He missed. Uh t K. T K is a two
Speaker 1: times state champ, too state am champ.
Speaker 2: Many people are saying that TK is coming on the
Speaker 2: Trap Drap podcast this week.
Speaker 3: Wow, I surprised you guys haven't lost the password to
Speaker 3: get it there. But your password has expired to try
Speaker 3: to upload a new podcast. Hate news teacher, So I'm
Speaker 3: going hardy.
Speaker 1: He's he's also he's made a cut of us open.
Speaker 3: All right, one more?
Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry sorry, one more Maverick McNeely or Patrick Rogers
Speaker 2: for the rest of their careers from from here on out.
Speaker 3: From this moment, man, I'm gonna take Patrick Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Can I take Tiger.
Speaker 3: Only? Only if I can take no time?
Speaker 1: As I was just gonna say, I'll take Big Mav.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about Big Mav getting bored after about thirty
Speaker 1: or four years.
Speaker 2: I'm worried about Big Mav getting ejected after about nine
Speaker 2: months and then being like, oh, this wasn't the plan anyway.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go be a businessman, which
Speaker 3: is fine, but.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about big MAV coming on in the mid
Speaker 1: am circuit and just vaporizing everybody.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that'd be great.
Speaker 2: We already got shout shout out slender Man Stu Stu
Speaker 2: haggs STU.
Speaker 1: Sorry do that? You know we don't need another one.
Speaker 3: He's like, he's like the new and improved version of STU. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so have the travel size Stu.
Speaker 1: Is that it?
Speaker 3: We done? That's it, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 1: All right? So trying you got speed DJ? You have DJ.
Speaker 3: Hmm, I'm gonna take speed too.
Speaker 2: No, all right, I'm going off speed.
Speaker 3: I got Ricky, Okay, I got take speed.
Speaker 1: I got Sergio.
Speaker 3: We don't have to take different guys. That's okay, nah,
Speaker 3: I was was the plane along?
Speaker 1: All right? Well we'll catch up sometime. Enjoy the early
Speaker 1: morning golf. You guys gonna what's your telecast schedule? When
Speaker 1: are you getting up?
Speaker 3: I'll pretty it up about three. I think it's usually
Speaker 3: my You guys don't do that. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 3: Mike A Sonati's what's Naught's opens at six or five? Yeah, Christinnati's.
Speaker 3: Get some key lime donuts, make some coffee.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually i'll probably I'll catch beat bits and
Speaker 2: pieces on Thursday, trying to get everything done and then
Speaker 2: just absolutely binge my face off on Friday.
Speaker 1: I was in LA last year for it.
Speaker 3: It's tough, awful. You got to tell it one way
Speaker 3: or the other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you either have to stay awake. All I started
Speaker 1: I did, ended up like half assing and missing like
Speaker 1: four hours right in the middle. I'm waking up and
Speaker 1: watching the Rats. Yeah all right, enjoy all right, man,
Speaker 1: see dude, yeah yeah,