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Speaker 1: Episode ten of Is this a Great Game or what

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer Tim Kirkston. I'm Jeff Kirkshin, and

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Speaker 1: this is our Memorial Day episode. As we know as Americans,

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Speaker 1: Memorial Day, we get the day off in order to

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Speaker 1: remember those who made the ultimate sacrifice serving our great country.

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Speaker 2: Right and twelve major league players died serving our country,

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Speaker 2: and today we're also going to celebrate those who served.

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Speaker 2: Thousands of major League players who served and survive. We

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Speaker 2: will talk about the heroes in for our military and

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Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: And it's really special because our guest today is the

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Speaker 1: granddaughter of Yogi Bearra ten World Series wins, a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer, one of the greatest catchers of all time.

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Speaker 1: But as we learned from Lindsay, his military career was

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Speaker 1: more important than anything he ever did on the field.

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Speaker 1: And trust me, Lindsay is so incredibly talented. She's a journalist,

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Speaker 1: she's immersed in her grandfather's life and legacy. We're so

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Speaker 1: excited for her to join the show, which is why

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing my Yogi shirt today. And if you can

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Speaker 1: notice here, the g is number eight, which of course

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Speaker 1: was Yogi's number greatest.

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Speaker 2: Eight of all time, Cal Ripken, Yogi Berra, Joe Morgan,

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Speaker 2: Carly Stremsky, make up your own mind, really good group

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Speaker 2: at eight. We'll have to go Ozzy to Oral another time.

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Speaker 2: But so that is in store.

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Speaker 1: We've got more on Memorial Day and military service in

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. But before we get there, let's get

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Speaker 1: our takeaways from the week in Major League.

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Speaker 2: Well, first off, Jeff, we need to explain we're shooting this.

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Speaker 2: This is true. We are shooting this from West Virginia

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Speaker 2: at our cabin. I never get Memorial Day off because

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Speaker 2: it's an enormously important baseball celebration, but I took the

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Speaker 2: time to be with the family. We came to our

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Speaker 2: cabin in West Virginia. West Virginia, of course, has a

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Speaker 2: very rich history in baseball. Bill Masarowski, who I believe

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Speaker 2: is the greatest defensive second basement of all time. Trust me, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: when I tell you this, Hall of Famer Bill Mazerowski.

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Speaker 2: Nobody made the double play better than he did. And

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Speaker 2: what he did, he stood right on second base and

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Speaker 2: he told the runner, go ahead, try to get me.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to go through these thick stocky legs.

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Speaker 2: No one made the turn better than Bill Mazerowski. And

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Speaker 2: of course our dear friend John Cruok is also from

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Speaker 2: West Virginia. Crooky has made me laugh a million times.

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Speaker 2: And with all of Kruoky his stories begin with Tim,

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Speaker 2: did I ever tell you the time about that I?

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Speaker 2: And then it always turns into this ridiculous stace you

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Speaker 2: never know where he said. Once he said, Tim, did

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Speaker 2: I ever till about the time I shot a deer

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Speaker 2: in the hot tub? And you know, with Krooky, you

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Speaker 2: have to ask Kruky, were you in the hot tub?

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Speaker 2: Was the deer in the hot tub? Were both of

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Speaker 2: you in the hot tub? So he said, no, I

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Speaker 2: was a senior in high school in West Virginia. I

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Speaker 2: got my shot leaned up against my jacuzzie and then

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Speaker 2: he looks at me and he pauses, like I'm now

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Speaker 2: gonna say, yeah, Crooky, that's where I keep my shot.

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Speaker 2: Everybody ass who doesn't have one? And he said, he

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Speaker 2: sat down. That's John crux story growing up at West Virginia. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so if you're listening wherever you listen, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. If you hear birds chirping or any sort

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Speaker 1: of sounds kind of out of my control because I'm

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Speaker 1: the one who hits all this together. It's because we're

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Speaker 1: filming this outside, because we have three of my dad's

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Speaker 1: YouTube as well, you can see the beautiful setting behind us.

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Speaker 1: So you're right, we talked to West Virginia. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: takeaways from the week in baseball. All right, Well, the Yankees, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: are really really good. We knew they'd be better offensively,

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Speaker 1: but they're pitching has been like historically good for the Yankees.

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Speaker 2: For a twelve day, twelve game period, their starters era

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Speaker 2: He had more extra base hits in May than any

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Speaker 2: in May in nineteen thirty seven. The other team that

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Speaker 2: City Royals. The Royals lost one hundred and six games

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Speaker 2: last year, but they are really playing well. They've upgraded

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Speaker 2: In fact, they scored seven or more runs in six

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Speaker 2: of course, leading the way through all of that. Katel

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Speaker 2: Marte of the Diamondbacks is a real good player, and

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Speaker 2: every time I see him he gets even better. He

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Speaker 2: just finished a twenty one game hitting streak, and he's

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Speaker 2: that's why the Diamondbacks are still in on this. And

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Speaker 2: of course your boy, Ranger Suarez, your wife Emily's favorite player,

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Speaker 2: The only two pictures in Major League history who've been

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Speaker 2: RA are Jan Marshall and Weight Wilhelm Weit. Wilhelm was

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Speaker 2: This is awful. I had to do a story on

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Speaker 2: knuckleball pictures. So this is thirty years ago, long before

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Speaker 2: cell phones. I call Hoit Wilhelm on the phone. He says,

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Speaker 2: I called like every fifteen minutes until ten thirty at night,

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Speaker 2: I called you every five minutes from seven o'clock on.

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Speaker 2: I called the front desk and said, what happened here?

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Speaker 2: And the front desk said, oh, we have two wit

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Speaker 2: It's a unique name. That's unfortunately my wit Willhelm story.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, one of the chances. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get into our game changer of the week. This is

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Speaker 2: Right, The Cleveland Guardians are really good, way better than

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Speaker 2: we thought they'd be. And Steven Vote, their first year manager,

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Speaker 2: having never managed anywhere in his life and a coach

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Speaker 2: He is obsessively observant. According to Elliott Johnson, one of

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Speaker 2: his former teammates, I talked to a dozen of his

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Speaker 2: not just because he's so observant, because he's the greatest

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Speaker 2: I've ever seen. And Max Muntsey, a former teammate of

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Speaker 2: much he thinks of Stephen Vote.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's really interesting, and I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 1: just kinda do you think it would be easier to

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Speaker 2: Impossible to follow Tito Francona because there is no following him.

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Speaker 2: general manager for the Guardians, told me, within five minutes

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Speaker 2: of the first interview that we did with Stephen Vote,

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Speaker 2: we knew that he had a chance to be a

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Speaker 1: Let's get into the quirk gins right now. And I

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Speaker 2: We have a couple here, right. Freddie Freeman hit another

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Speaker 2: Grand Slam. That's six Grand slams that he's hit since

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one season. Now, the kicker is he

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Speaker 2: When I finally hit one, I'm gonna get a beer shower,

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Speaker 2: six in the last three years. That's what Freddy Freeman

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Speaker 2: and they're the only six Grand slams he ever hit

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven season, and it's like Frank Robinson with

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Speaker 2: the Oriols, one of the great Orioles ever hit two

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Speaker 2: all right. So Ronald Acunya Junior, the reigning MVP in

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Speaker 2: RBI game. And this guy drove in over one hundred

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Speaker 2: five one hundred RBIs one year, fifty five games into

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Speaker 2: And Akunya Junior is going to finish this season with

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Speaker 2: crushing blow for the Braves who've had offensive troubles, and

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Speaker 2: I think this changes the look of the National League.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jeff, I check every day the four strikeout

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Speaker 2: games that go on in the big leagues, like an

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Speaker 2: individual four game. I don't know why I do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by So mike y Stremsky, really good young player.

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Speaker 2: He had his sixth four strikeout game of his career

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Speaker 2: the other day. So I checked. Did Carl Yastremsky ever

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Speaker 2: have a four strikeout game? His famous grandfather who played

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Speaker 2: Just showing you what pitching our guys are seeing today.

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Speaker 2: It's the most difficult pitching environment in the history. So

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Speaker 2: also Ellie de la Cruz, who's a spectacular shortstop for

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Speaker 2: in Credible. He has now got seven four strikeout games

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Speaker 2: He's got seven four strikeout games already, and John Carlos

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Speaker 2: Stanton this year. I can't believe I missed this. Two

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, John Carlos Stanton struck out four times in

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Speaker 2: the game for the twenty eighth time in his career.

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Speaker 2: That is a major League record. He passed two weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: the same Elliot Johnson who I quoted about Stephen Vote

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Speaker 2: told me the other day, Tim, you never ever ever

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Speaker 2: run on the catcher. It's never the catcher's fault. He

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Speaker 2: You know. The Orioles just got swept the other day.

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Speaker 2: Well, Raphael Devers one of the best hitters in the

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Speaker 2: All right, George Brett is one of the great hitters

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Speaker 1: I have, Joe, And I'm not trying to poke fun

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Speaker 2: Nine point nine percent of the games I've gone to

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Speaker 1: Phillies Lou Garrig Day taking on the Cardinals, and Lou

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Speaker 1: Garrig Day is raising awareness for als which my dad's uncle,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and we will celebrate that and do the best

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And if you have anybody who needs resources, please

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Speaker 1: there's a there's a rarity score, right, so you could

430
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Speaker 1: just pick players that match the descriptions or what meat

431
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Speaker 1: in the grid, right, But the more rare the better.

432
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Speaker 2: And we talked to Mike.

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Speaker 1: Sure, if you haven't gone back to the Seamhead edition

434
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Speaker 1: or haven't heard it yet, go listen to that one

435
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Speaker 1: because it's great.

436
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Speaker 2: Can we start, Yes, And let's be clear now, just

437
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Speaker 2: so no one thinks I'm cheating. I was given five

438
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Speaker 2: minutes to think this through, Okay, So I have had

439
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Speaker 2: five minutes to figure out some answers. I hope I've

440
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Speaker 2: got them right, but let's go. Yeah.

441
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Speaker 1: I gave it to him right before we started the podcast,

442
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Speaker 1: and then we hit record at the very beginning of

443
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Speaker 1: the show. So it's been you know, thirty odd minutes.

444
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: But he hasn't been thinking about it because we've been

445
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Speaker 1: doing the show. Okay, give me a Guardians and Seattle

446
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Speaker 1: Mariners player, and keeping in mind that in immaculate grid

447
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Speaker 1: it could be Guardians or Indio Indians.

448
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, all right, well, Omarvis SkELL has to be Well,

449
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: he's the most obvious, but I don't care because Omarvis

450
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Speaker 2: Skel after Ozzie Smith is the greatest defensive shortstop I've

451
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Speaker 2: ever seen. And I've told you this story, Jeff. I

452
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: actually played catch with Ozzie Smith, I mean with omarvs

453
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Speaker 2: SkELL once and he in playing catch with him, he

454
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Speaker 2: does this sleight of hand thing where doesn't even appear

455
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Speaker 2: that the ball goes into his glove, then it's in

456
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Speaker 2: his hand and he's thrown back to you. After I

457
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Speaker 2: finally slow him down and say, Omar what are you doing?

458
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: He's deflecting the ball off the heel of his glove.

459
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Speaker 2: He's catching it right here and throwing it back to me.

460
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Speaker 2: So Omar vs SkELL is my Indian Mariner? How about

461
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Speaker 2: Indian or Guardian Pittsburgh Pirate. Okay, that is Carlos Santana,

462
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Speaker 2: who's also also an Indian or a Guardian Mariner, So

463
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Speaker 2: he could have been the answer to the first one. Also,

464
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Speaker 2: he could have been. Carlos Santana is our answer for

465
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Speaker 2: because he you know, he's been with a lot of

466
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Speaker 2: teams thirty eight years old.

467
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Speaker 1: Isn't he also on your all musical team? Yes, he's

468
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Speaker 1: All's the catcher right, yeah, he's right, okay, And on

469
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Speaker 1: this row Guardian's Astros or Indians Astres.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Buddy Bell is my choice there. He only played,

471
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: I believe, one year with the Astros. Craig Bigio told

472
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Speaker 2: me once. Creig Bigio told me that he learned about

473
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Speaker 2: what it takes to play in a major league game

474
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Speaker 2: by playing with Buddy Bell for one year. And he said,

475
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Speaker 2: in between games of a doubleheader, Buddy Bell, who's like

476
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Speaker 2: in the last two years of his career, has a

477
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Speaker 2: Cortizone shot. In between games he's hitting, he's sitting in

478
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Speaker 2: the trainer's room with a needle in his knee so

479
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Speaker 2: he can go out and play the second game of

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Speaker 2: the doubleheader. And he was nearly forty years old.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're moving on to the next row. Threw

482
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Speaker 1: a no hitter for the Seattle Mariners.

483
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Speaker 2: Uh, all right, that well, Randy Johnson is the obvious one,

484
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Speaker 2: but we're gonna go a little more obscure and go

485
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Speaker 2: Chris Bosio, who's no hitter was saved by the aforementioned

486
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Speaker 2: Omar Vscale, who bare handed the final ball and made

487
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Speaker 2: a perfect throat at first. As Omar told me, I

488
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Speaker 2: would have never gotten him if I didn't bare hand it.

489
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Speaker 2: Omar had the greatest bare handed plays I've ever seen.

490
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Speaker 2: Threw a no hitter for the Pirates, all right, for

491
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Speaker 2: the Pirates, let's see. Oh, all right, doc Ellis threw

492
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Speaker 2: the famous no hitter for the Pirates. I believe it

493
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Speaker 2: was in nineteen seventy two. And doc Ellis claims that

494
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Speaker 2: he was on LSD when he threw the no hitter,

495
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Speaker 2: which I wouldn't even know what LSD is because I

496
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Speaker 2: get buzzed on two Miller lites. So yes, he pitched

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Speaker 2: a no hitter for the Pirates. All right, let me

498
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Speaker 2: put it in hold on.

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Speaker 1: Sorry it didn't come up initially, but that's because I

500
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Speaker 1: forgot to add.

501
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Speaker 2: A K to Doc Ellis. Was Doc all right?

502
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Speaker 1: Next up last, but not least on the no hitter.

503
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Speaker 1: No hitter for the Astros, well, I.

504
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Speaker 2: Think they've had seventeen no hitters, most of them by

505
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Speaker 2: Nolan Ryan. But that's too easy. So Don Wilson, Don

506
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Speaker 2: Wilson had two no hitters, and Don Wilson pitched in

507
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Speaker 2: the sixties. Don Wilson threw really, really hard. So these

508
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: people say, oh, no one threw hard back then. Trust me,

509
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Speaker 2: Don Wilson was bringing it okay.

510
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to put in Don Wilson. And while

511
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Speaker 1: I do that, I want you to give me a

512
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Speaker 1: minimum of one game playing outfield for the Mariners.

513
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Speaker 2: Boy, one game. There are a million of those guys.

514
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: So one of my favorite early Mariners was a guy

515
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: named Dan Meyer, and I remember writing this note in

516
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: like nineteen eighty two. He was afraid of heights, so

517
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Speaker 2: when he stayed in the team hotel, he had to

518
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Speaker 2: insist that he didn't have a room higher than three

519
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: levels up because he was afraid of heights. And as

520
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 2: you know, Jeff, I'm scared to death of heights. I'm

521
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Speaker 2: not even comfortable being this tall, which isn't that tall

522
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Speaker 2: by the way, Yes, exactly, All right, let me put

523
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Speaker 2: this one in.

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Speaker 1: Dan Meyer M b yeer so he played from twenty

525
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Speaker 1: four to twenty ten, because there's two Meyers so or

526
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Speaker 1: was it seventy.

527
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Speaker 2: Four to seventy four to eighty five? I don't want

528
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Speaker 2: to get this wrong.

529
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Speaker 1: Er point two percent on that pull well, and once again,

530
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Speaker 1: only only give you five minutes to do this. And

531
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Speaker 1: hand to God, I saw it. I made it happen.

532
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Speaker 1: I forced him to do this because I've been asking

533
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Speaker 1: him to do immaculate grid with me pirates playing the

534
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Speaker 1: outfield minimum one game.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, I'm not going obscure here. We have

536
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Speaker 2: to mention Ralph Kiner here because we're also storytellers here,

537
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: Jeff and Ralph Kiner is one of the great home

538
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Speaker 2: run hitters of all time, Hall of Famer, one of

539
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: the greatest guys I've ever met. And of course he

540
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: was a tremendous broadcaster for the Mets for all those years,

541
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Speaker 2: and the king of the malaprop He would occasionally he

542
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: would get something wrong. So he once called Dan Billardello,

543
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 2: backup catcher for several teams. Dan Billardello, he called him

544
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: Don Bordello on the air. You know, you said little bars,

545
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: he said, it wasn't that obscure. It's point seven percent.

546
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Speaker 2: So at least Ralph Kiner, Yeah, he hit fifty homers

547
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Speaker 2: multiple times.

548
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Speaker 1: And last but not at least, Houston Astros outfielder minimum

549
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Speaker 1: one game.

550
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Speaker 2: All right, I did give this five minutes a thought.

551
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Speaker 2: John Petorick John Patchorc played in the Major Leagues for

552
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Speaker 2: the Astros, and he played one game. He is the

553
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Speaker 2: older brother of Tom Patchorc, who had a much longer career.

554
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: John Petchorac played for the Astros. Get this, Jeff. He

555
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: went three for three in the only game he ever

556
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Speaker 2: played in. Then he hurt his back and never played

557
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Speaker 2: in the Major leagues ever again. So he retired with

558
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Speaker 2: a one thousand batting average. Three for three.

559
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Speaker 1: John Patchorick, let's see immaculate grid success.

560
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Speaker 2: Raredy score one oh four. What does that mean? It's

561
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: pretty good? That's what that means. Oh that's my final score.

562
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Speaker 2: That's your final score. What is good? That is pretty good?

563
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Speaker 2: That's really good. You're amaciart. I'm not doing this anymore.

564
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: That five minutes was torturous for me, and I don't

565
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Speaker 2: have time to do that, right.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's move forward now in the show

567
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Speaker 1: because we've got a lot more to get to. Of course,

568
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Speaker 1: thank you for doing immaculate grid Dad. I know you

569
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Speaker 1: were a little uncomfortable to do that. You do wordle

570
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: every day, so I didn't think it would be that

571
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Speaker 1: big of a deal. But let's get back to what

572
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Speaker 1: makes this show special. This week, it's our Memorial Day episode,

573
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Speaker 1: and as we mentioned at the beginning of the show,

574
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Speaker 1: we understand that that is all about honoring those who

575
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Speaker 1: made the ultimate sacrifice for our country, lost their lives

576
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Speaker 1: to make us free here in the United States. But

577
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Speaker 1: there's also so many players that have served in military,

578
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Speaker 1: either during.

579
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Speaker 2: Their baseball careers, after or before. Yeah, and not just

580
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: players Jeff great, great players. Thousands of Major league players

581
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Speaker 2: served our country like Warren spawn is the all time

582
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Speaker 2: winning his left handed pitcher ever with three hundred and

583
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Speaker 2: sixty three wins. He was on the bridge at Remagen

584
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Speaker 2: when Allied forces crossed the Rhine for the first time

585
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Speaker 2: in nineteen forty five. That is how involved he was

586
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Speaker 2: in the entire invasion of Europe. Of course, Ted Williams

587
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: is one of the great marine pilots ever, and one

588
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: of my greatest thrills ever is not just talking to

589
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Speaker 2: him about hitting, talking to him about his war career

590
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: and what it was like to fly an airplane for

591
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Speaker 2: his country. I can't even begin to tell you how

592
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Speaker 2: passionate he was. He was a true war hero. And

593
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Speaker 2: Jerry Coleman, another veteran who served, told me the greatest

594
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Speaker 2: fighter pilot I've ever seen was Ted Williams. That's how

595
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: good he was, all right. Hank Greenberg was a great

596
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame first baseman for the Tigers. He was

597
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Speaker 2: drafted on May the seventh of nineteen forty one. He

598
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Speaker 2: was making fifty five thousand dollars a year, went into

599
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Speaker 2: the army making twenty one dollars per month. He was.

600
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Speaker 2: He was discharged on December the fifth, and of course

601
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Speaker 2: Pearl Harbor happened on December the seventh, and he re

602
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Speaker 2: enlisted right after that, because that's what those people, that's

603
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Speaker 2: what those players of that time did. And Bob Feller,

604
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Speaker 2: of course, was a great war hero and one of

605
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Speaker 2: the greatest pictures we've ever seen. So for my first book,

606
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Speaker 2: I called Bob Feller on the phone, and I asked

607
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Speaker 2: him because I was writing a book about a chapter

608
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Speaker 2: about baseball and World War Two, and this was the

609
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: question I asked. I said, Bob, why did you enlist

610
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Speaker 2: and go fight for our country? And he started screaming

611
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Speaker 2: at me. He said, we were losing that war, we

612
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Speaker 2: were getting our asses kicked in the Pacific, and any

613
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Speaker 2: red blooded American with a gut in his body would

614
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Speaker 2: have done exactly what I did. I helped turn that

615
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Speaker 2: war around. We took back the Pacific. And those are

616
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Speaker 2: the proudest moments of my entire life, is serving my country.

617
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Speaker 2: I almost started to cry. He was screaming. He wasn't

618
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Speaker 2: screaming at me. He was screaming at the world that

619
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Speaker 2: this was something that had to be done. And at

620
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Speaker 2: the time he was the highest paid and the best

621
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Speaker 2: picture in the American League. And he threw it away

622
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Speaker 2: and said, I'm enlistening and served our country beautifully. Bob Feller.

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Speaker 1: Lindsey Bearra tells an amazing story about her grandfather, Yogi Bearra,

624
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Speaker 1: and Bob Feller having a run in together something that

625
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Speaker 1: and this is rare. I'm going to be honest with

626
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Speaker 1: you when we do interviews. I know you had never

627
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Speaker 1: heard before.

628
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: I did not know them. Your reaction and you and

629
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Speaker 2: I both got chills.

630
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Speaker 1: So that's coming up before we get to Lindsay though, Dad,

631
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Speaker 1: I think we do this every week, a lineup of players. Right,

632
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Speaker 1: We've done everything from Hall of Fame brothers, right, brothers

633
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Speaker 1: that have been in the Hall of Fame. I think

634
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: that's really important to get to. But also we did

635
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Speaker 1: Fruit and Vegetable Team, the All Fruit and Vegetable Team.

636
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Speaker 2: I would say this is a little bit more serious

637
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Speaker 2: it is.

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00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: This is going to be and Dad, let me know

639
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: ahead of time. This is the All Military Major League Team.

640
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Speaker 2: Jeff. Again, there are thousands and thousands of part players

641
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Speaker 2: so and to just pick these guys is unfair to

642
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: everyone else. But I just want to give you the

643
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: magnitude of the players that serve for our country. So

644
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Speaker 2: Yogi Bearra is the catcher who we met, of course,

645
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: Hank Greenberg at first base, Jackie Robinson at second base,

646
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, Luke Appling at shortstop, doctor Bobby Brown,

647
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: my dear friend who went on to become a doctor.

648
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 2: Yogi Bera's roommate with the Yankees. They tell the greatest

649
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: stories ever. In fact, Yogi is apparently reading a comic

650
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: book while doctor Brown is reading his medical books in

651
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: the same room. And after they turn out the lights,

652
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 2: Yogi looks at doctor Bobby Brown and says, how did

653
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: yours turn out? Like he was reading a comic? He's

654
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: reading about tuberculosis, right right, all right? The outfield has

655
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 2: so many guys, they're too many to choose. But these

656
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 2: are just four outfield five outfielders who served, of course,

657
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Joe DiMaggio, Stan Musial, Ty Cobb,

658
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 2: and we mentioned the pictures Warren Spond and Bob Feller.

659
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: Those guys are like ten twelve of the greatest players

660
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: of all time, and they all served our country, and

661
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: that's why we're remembering them a Memorial Day.

662
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: I hope you all enjoyed time with your family this

663
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: past weekend. I know we have, and but most importantly,

664
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Speaker 1: we enjoyed our conversation with Lindsay Barra that we're excited

665
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: to share with you about her grandfather, a Hall of

666
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Fame catcher but also an incredible member of the military

667
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: who speaked so highly of that time in his life.

668
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: More important than any of his baseball service. Lindsay Barra

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Speaker 1: joins the show. Coming up next, and we are joined

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Speaker 1: by Lindsay Bearra, the granddaughter of the great Yogi Bearra,

671
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: one of the greatest catchers.

672
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: Of all time. He won more rings ten than any

673
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: player in Major League history, and I believe he's the

674
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: most beloved figure in the history of baseball. Lindsay, welcome

675
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 2: to the show.

676
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: Hey guys, thanks so much for having me.

677
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: Pleasure Right off the bat, Lindsay, how cool was it

678
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: for you to grow up with not only a grandfather

679
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: who played Major League Baseball, but a Hall of Famer and,

680
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: as my dad mentioned, one of the greatest to ever play.

681
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it's much cooler now looking back in retrospect,

682
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: because when I was a kid, I had no idea.

683
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 3: It was like I was probably like, I don't know, ten, eleven,

684
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: twelve years old before I even realized he was a

685
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: famous person. You know. As a kid, I thought grandpa's

686
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: job was to manage that the Yankees or coach, you know,

687
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: whateverver he happened to be doing at that particular time.

688
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 3: And I didn't really think of that job as any

689
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: different than my friend's grandfathers, who were accountants or school

690
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: bus drivers or you know, whatever the heck they did.

691
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: So by the time I was old enough to understand

692
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 3: that Grandpa Yogi was also this really famous Yogi Bera guy,

693
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: it was kind of hard to rationalize the two in

694
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: my mind, and even now as a very grown up person.

695
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 3: The Grandpa Yogi's on one side, and that's the guy who,

696
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: like you know, watched all the Seinfeld reruns and burned.

697
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 4: The hot dogs and all our barbecues.

698
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: And then the Yogi Bera guy is the one with

699
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: the you know, ten World Series rings and eighteen All

700
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: Star games and all that other stuff.

701
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: Right, So, Lizzie, what was it like for you? Wherever

702
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: you went as you got a little bit older, someone

703
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: on a daily basis said, I love your grandfather, is

704
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: my favorite player, is my favorite person. Ever? What was

705
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: that like for you?

706
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: I don't think people really said that to me as much.

707
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 3: He was alive, like, they accosted him for autographs and

708
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: conversations and hugs and all of those kind of things.

709
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: But I didn't really start to hear the I loved

710
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: your grandfather so much until he had passed away and

711
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: people really started to say.

712
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 4: What he had meant to.

713
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 3: Them, and it blows my mind and will continue to

714
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 3: blow my mind when someone who never met my grandfather,

715
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: may not have even had a chance to ever see

716
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 3: him play in person, comes up to me and says,

717
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: I loved your grandfather so much, And they mean that

718
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: word love in the same sense of the word as

719
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: I mean it when I say I love my grandfather.

720
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 3: It blows my mind that he was able to touch

721
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: and inspire so many people in that way.

722
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Speaker 4: And I mean, I don't think I'll ever get used

723
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 4: to that.

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Speaker 1: I had a very brief encounter with your grandfather at

725
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: the Baseball Hall of Fame and it was the celebration

726
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: in the hall. It was Tony Gwenn and cow Ripken's year,

727
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: so it was a big, big induction year. And when

728
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: your grandfather walked into the room, I mean, think about it,

729
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: how many players were there at that point, everybody, all

730
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: of the Hall of famers, and the room kind of

731
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: fell silent for a moment. All of these players, even

732
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: these other Hall of famers, were thinking.

733
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Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, Yogi just walked into the room.

734
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: That is so neat and on top of his extreme

735
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: success as a baseball player, you know this is our

736
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: Memorial Day episode. And we know Memorial Days is in

737
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: turn to remember those who had sacrificed their lives and

738
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: lost their lives in service of our country. But your

739
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: grandfather served our country as well, and that was a big,

740
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: big part of who he was as a person.

741
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

742
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: I think it was a tremendous part of who he

743
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 4: was as a person.

744
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 3: And I also think it played a role in who

745
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: he became as a baseball player. But I'll go there

746
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: in a minute. But yeah, So he was a first

747
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: generation Italian immigrant. He grew up on the hill in

748
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: Saint Louis, and he loved his country. His parents were

749
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: incredibly proud to be Americans. And so nineteen forty three,

750
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: he's playing for the Norfolk Tars in the Piedmont League,

751
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: already a PROBA fall contract in his hand, and he

752
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 3: turns eighteen on May twelfth, nineteen forty three, and he

753
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: literally walks from the Norfolk Tars ballpark over to the

754
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 3: Naval base and says, I enlist because he felt it

755
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: was his duty to serve his country. And you know,

756
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: only my grandpa Yogi could be bored in basic training.

757
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 3: And they asked for volunteers for what they were calling

758
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 3: a secret mission, and he goes, Oh, that doesn't sound boring.

759
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 4: Let's do the secret mission. He raises his.

760
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: Hand, and that turned out to be training for the

761
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 3: rocket boats, which was the amphibious assault of Omaha Beach

762
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: for the D Day invasion.

763
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 4: So he ended up on.

764
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Speaker 3: An LCSs Landing Craft Support small, which was a little

765
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: boat that came off of a bigger boat.

766
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Speaker 4: Which was the USS Bayfield.

767
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: And he sat on that little boat for ten days,

768
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: a couple hundred yards off of Omaha Beach, firing a

769
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Speaker 3: machine gun fire to cover our troops going ashore during

770
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: the D Day.

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Speaker 4: Invision, lindsay, did.

772
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Speaker 2: He ever articulate this with you? Did he ever tell you,

773
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: let me tell you about the rocket boat or Normandy

774
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: or did that never come up?

775
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 3: It wasn't that it didn't come up, because I heard

776
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: people ask him all the time, and I certainly asked.

777
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 3: He just like a lot of men of that generation,

778
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 3: didn't want to go there. And he would tell you

779
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: that it was like the Fourth of July with all

780
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: the rockets going off in order to get you to

781
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 3: move on to the next thing.

782
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 4: We all know it was not like the fourth of July.

783
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: The only times I ever saw or heard or saw

784
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: him really open up about it.

785
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: Was after we first started.

786
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 3: So my dad took him to go see and my

787
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: uncles took him to see Saving Private Ryan, and he had.

788
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 4: A little bit of a moment in the movie theater.

789
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: And then I watched the first episode of Band of

790
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 3: Brothers with my dad and my grandpa, and he got

791
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: real quiet, and it didn't really articulate a lot of it,

792
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 3: but you know, just kind of went kind of inside himself.

793
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: And then he was much older and we had an event,

794
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: a D Day event at the Yogubart Museum and Learning Center.

795
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 3: Tommy Lasorda was there with him, and they were sitting

796
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: in the front row watching this new PBS footage that

797
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 3: they had found of the D Day invasion, and I

798
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: was a few rows behind him, and I thought that

799
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: he had actually fallen asleep, and I went down to

800
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 3: tap him on the shoulder to make sure, like just

801
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: to wake him up, but he was not asleep. He

802
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: was just kind of like he was going like this

803
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: and people can't see me, but he was going. He

804
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: was making this like whistling noise, kind of with his

805
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: eyes closed. And this footage that they had of the PBS.

806
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: In the PBS documentary, you could hear the whistle of

807
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 3: the big German eighty eight gun up in the hills,

808
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 3: and that was the whistle, and that was the noise

809
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 3: that Grandpa was making. I'm gonna cry remembering this. And

810
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: he had just gone back there in his head and

811
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: which has had his eyes closed, it was making that whistle.

812
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: So you know, he didn't talk about it a lot,

813
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 3: but it certainly was in him for sure. And you know,

814
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: I say a lot.

815
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 4: Grandpa went on to, you know, come.

816
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: Home and play for the Yankees and marry my grandmother

817
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: and lived this amazing American life.

818
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 4: And I'm sorry, I get emotional talking about it.

819
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: Still, sorry time because I just think about him anyway.

820
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 3: I don't think for a second that he ever took

821
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 3: a moment of his life for granted. Because he saw

822
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: so many men die in front of him. It was

823
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: his job to pull the bodies of our fallen servicemen

824
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: out of the water after the beach had been secured.

825
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: I don't think that's a experience that leaves you. And

826
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: I think every day that he was able to play

827
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 3: a kid's game for a living.

828
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: I mean, he just.

829
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 3: Absolutely knew how blessed and lucky he was and would

830
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 3: tell anyone who would listen about that fact. And then

831
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: he becomes known as one of the greatest clutch hitters

832
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: in the history of baseball. And I know that when

833
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: he got up with you know, two outs in the

834
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: bottom of the ninth and runners in scoring position, that

835
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: was not pressure when you go through a life for

836
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: death situation, and you know what real pressure is. All

837
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: the bottom of the ninth with runners on was for

838
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: Grandpa was opportunity, opportunity to take advantage of the fact

839
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 3: that he was still here when other people were not.

840
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: Oh, Lindsey, I'm wow. I'm in tears myself here. So

841
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: there must have been a time you're talking to somebody

842
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: about baseball and that person looks at you and goes, well,

843
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: let me tell you about your dad, your grandfather, the

844
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: war hero that must have come up that from nowhere

845
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 2: you hear a story about what he did to serve

846
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: our country.

847
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 4: It's funny.

848
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: I actually hear more often that people don't know he

849
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: served really the country. I've had a few run ins

850
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 3: with folks who tell me stories about when Grandpa after

851
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: the war, he was at the submarine base in New London, Connecticut,

852
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: and he was playing for the base team under an

853
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 3: assumed name because he wasn't allowed to play a pro

854
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: and it was like Joe Castano or some weird BA

855
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 3: go off the base and play. So like I hear

856
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: people tell me those stories, which I find, you know, hilarious,

857
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: but it's funny. More often than not, people remember him

858
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 3: as a baseball player. They remember him more for the

859
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: funny things he said off the field. I do very

860
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 3: much believe that his personality and the yogisms overshadowed what

861
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: a tremendous baseball player he was. But there's not a

862
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: lot of folks who knew that he was in the service,

863
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 3: and especially not at Omaha Beach on D Day. And

864
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: you know, I just I was the executive producer of

865
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 3: It Ain't Over, which is a documentary about my grandfather

866
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: that folks can watch on Netflix and Amazon and Apple TV.

867
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: We're ninety eight percent on rott Tomatoes, so everyone should

868
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 3: watch it.

869
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: It's fabulous. I've seen it keep going.

870
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: So many of those folks who saw the movie came

871
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 3: up afterwards or sent me notes on Twitter or Instagram.

872
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 4: Whatever.

873
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 3: I didn't know your grandfather was in the Service.

874
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 4: I didn't know he was in D Day, so.

875
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: You know, maybe it was something that folks knew back

876
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 3: in the fifties or something, and then it just kind

877
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: of forgot. But actually, Grandpa, there was a little bit

878
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: when Grandpa was first in the big leagues when Bob

879
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: Feller wouldn't talk to him, and he didn't understand what

880
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 3: the problem was because Grandpa, you know, he just he

881
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: talked to everybody, and he asked somebody, why.

882
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 4: Didn't why doesn't Bob Feller like me? Or why doesn't

883
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 4: he talk to me?

884
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: And he goes, oh, he doesn't have respect for people

885
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: who didn't serve their country. And Grandpa was like, yo, hello,

886
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: I was there. And then Bob Feller eventually apologized to him,

887
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: and then they take great friends. So a lot of

888
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 3: even his you know, his counterparts in Major League Baseball

889
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: didn't know he was in the service. Grandpa was never

890
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 3: one to toot his own horn, you know, and you know,

891
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: or to talk about himself at all, be it you know,

892
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: World War two or baseball or whatever. You had to

893
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: really ask him pointed questions to get him to go

894
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: into detail about anything. So I guess, you know, that's

895
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: what happened with Bob Feller.

896
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: Too, right, Lindsay, with the ten rings and the three

897
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: MVPs and the unbelievable performance on the baseball field, is

898
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 2: it clear to you still if he had to choose

899
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: one or the other, helping to serve his country or

900
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: be a great baseball player, there might not even be

901
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 2: a choice there.

902
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 3: No, I think the duty would always have come first.

903
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 3: That he was so proud to be an American and

904
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: knew that it was his job to serve his country.

905
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 3: And I think that baseball, you know, he never considered

906
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 3: baseball work, you know, so I feel like he would

907
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: have put the service ahead of the baseball. But he

908
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: also knew how lucky he was to be able to

909
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: play baseball, and he loved it with every fiber of

910
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 3: his being for you know, as long as he was.

911
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 4: On planet Earth.

912
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: Right. He started with the Yankees in nineteen forty six,

913
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: and he was We had him at Yankee Stadium in

914
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen. I mean, that's an incredible run with Major

915
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 3: League Baseball.

916
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: With a storied, amazing organization. Now, Lindsay, my grandfather, who

917
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: you can actually see in this photo.

918
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: It's a chalk photo.

919
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: Done by my mom's mom, of my dad's dad, and myself,

920
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: and you know, he served, and I feel you hit

921
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: on it perfectly. Men of that generation, it just wasn't like,

922
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: let me tell you what happened back in nineteen forty three.

923
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: That just wasn't it. It was just a part of them.

924
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: It was a part of what the country was doing.

925
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: And to hear how that meant more to him than

926
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: his story baseball career, because he got to serve the

927
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: country that he loved so much.

928
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: It's just so fitting and so beautiful for a day

929
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: like today.

930
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 3: You know, I also think that it was so the

931
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 3: norm back then.

932
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 4: I mean, there was a draft.

933
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: Grandpa enlisted before he was drafted, but most men of

934
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: a certain age were drafted into World War Two, and

935
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 3: that it was such a common experience with the folks

936
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: of that generation. So even though you had your own story,

937
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: it was so like everybody else's story that maybe you

938
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: didn't feel like you needed to tell it right. And

939
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 3: then there was the other aspect of you came home

940
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 3: when all these other guys didn't, and you know, you're

941
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: telling stories around people who lost family members and loved ones,

942
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: and there was probably a big part of my Grandpa

943
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 3: that didn't want to like gloat for having survived, right right.

944
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 2: Right, Well, this anniversary of D Day, another big anniversary,

945
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: mean extra even more, say for you, Yeah, we.

946
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 4: Have sixtieth anniversary coming up. It's amazing.

947
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: We are planning like a day of programming at the

948
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: Yogi Ber Museum and Learning Center to commemorate it. You know,

949
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 3: I feel like it means a lot to me every

950
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 3: year since Grandpa has passed, and since we're losing more

951
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 3: and more of those veterans. I think we have a

952
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: gentleman coming to the museum and he's one hundred years old,

953
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 3: and there's just not going to be many more of

954
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 3: those folks around for much longer. So yeah, I just

955
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 3: I don't want that to be forgotten.

956
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 4: I love that you guys are talking about it.

957
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 3: I love that at the museum we tell Grandpa's story

958
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: as a way of keeping D Day and everybody's memory,

959
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 3: and I think it's really important that we remember, you know,

960
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 3: the price we pay to live freely in this country.

961
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: A right, lindsay last one for me. If you were

962
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: to meet I'm sure it's happened. A young player today

963
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 2: recognizes your last name and says, tell me about Yogi Bearra.

964
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 2: What would be the first thing that you would tell

965
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: a young baseball player about your grandfather?

966
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: My god, I would probably get like diarrhea of the mountain,

967
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 3: right because I love to tell that, you know, before

968
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 3: he was a ballplayer, he was on Omaha Beach. I

969
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 3: mean that's important. But like my favorite stat to well,

970
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 3: there's two favorite stats that I like to share with them.

971
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 3: One guy with the young guys, nineteen fifty six hundred

972
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 3: and fiftyifty six plate appearances, five hundred and ninety seven

973
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: at the bats, he hit three twenty two, one hundred

974
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 3: and twenty four RBIs, twenty eight home runs and struck

975
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 3: out twelve times in six hundred and fifty six plate appearances.

976
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: So like, I physical challenge anybody to come even remotely

977
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 3: close to doing that in a full season.

978
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: And then the other is that they can't do that

979
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 2: in a full week, Lizzy, these days we win, yes,

980
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 2: we went yeah, one series.

981
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 3: And then the other is that he caught both ends

982
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: of double headers one hundred and seventeen.

983
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 4: Times in his career, So eighteen innings, one hundred and

984
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 4: seventeen times.

985
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 3: And I physical challenge any big league catcher to do

986
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 3: that just once and tell me how it feels to

987
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: walk down the stairs the next day. And then also

988
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 3: remember that you didn't do it in August in a

989
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 3: wool suit.

990
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 2: Right. Well, my last thing got Yogi was he he

991
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: looked at me once and told me I drove. I

992
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: pulled it out of him. He said, I drove in

993
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: twenty three runs and doubleheader in the minor leagues twenty

994
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: three runs. I said, what, Yogi, how can that happen?

995
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 2: He goes, I only hit one homer, he said, But

996
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: I can't imitate your grandfather. But every time it came up,

997
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: the bases were loaded, and then he like cleared the

998
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: bases like six times in one game, in one double hitter.

999
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 3: When my grandparents met, they met at Biggie's on the

1000
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 3: Hill in Saint Louis, which was Stan Musial's restaurant. And

1001
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 3: my grandmother wouldn't go out with him at first because

1002
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 3: she thought he was married all these other reasons. But

1003
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: the fact that he had driven in those twenty three runs.

1004
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: Someone told her that, and she thought that he might

1005
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 3: have a chance as a ballplayer.

1006
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 4: Take her seriously, Oh.

1007
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 2: That is a great story, Lindsey.

1008
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: Can't we can't thank you enough for joining us honoring

1009
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: your grandfather's memory. Tell us a little bit about the

1010
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: mission of the Yogi Barra Museum and Learning Center and

1011
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 1: what one can get if they make it out there

1012
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: and you know, tell people about it.

1013
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 3: So it's a great place. It's on the campus of

1014
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 3: Montclair State University in Little Falls, New Jersey. It's you

1015
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 3: can take the train right out from the city, or

1016
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: it's an easy uber from Manhattan. You get to see

1017
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 3: a lot of like you know, glittery things, MVP plas,

1018
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 3: we have all twenty seven Yankees World Series rings. There's

1019
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 3: a lot of cool memorabilia. But the learning center part

1020
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 3: was really what was most important to my grandfather. He

1021
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 3: quit school in the eighth grade, and he was always

1022
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: very self conscious of that fact. But when he made

1023
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 3: the big leagues, by the time he had enough or

1024
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 3: once he had enough money to do so, he established

1025
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: a scholarship fund at Columbia University that still exists today,

1026
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 3: and he wanted the learning center part to kind of,

1027
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 3: you know, trump the museum. Part of the museum we

1028
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 3: have we do educational programs for kids, character education program,

1029
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 3: stem education, teaching science and math through baseball. We have

1030
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 3: we had an exhibit on the Negro leagues that is

1031
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 3: now kind of memorialized in a capsule that teaches the

1032
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: history of racism in the country through the history of

1033
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 3: racism and sports. We have a spoken word capsule, the

1034
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 3: yogisms women in sports, a capsule right now, we just

1035
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: opened a COVID exhibit baseball and COVID.

1036
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 4: But the idea is really to just pass.

1037
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 3: On Grandpa's values of inclusion and excellence and leadership and

1038
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 3: treating people with respect to the next generation of both

1039
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 3: baseball fans and non baseball fans, because we have a

1040
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 3: lot of kids who come in who are not baseball fans,

1041
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: but they learned something and can just have something to

1042
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 3: look up to and emulate in the way that my

1043
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 3: grandfather lived his life.

1044
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 4: So that's what we do there.

1045
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: Lindsay, it's so fitting that his war career was more

1046
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: important than his baseball career, and at the museum of

1047
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: his life and career, the education part of it is

1048
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: more important to him than the actual museum.

1049
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: It's so fitting, right, Lindsay, thank you so much for

1050
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 2: joining us. You made us laugh and you made us

1051
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: cry today. That's really really special.

1052
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much. You guys should come

1053
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 3: visit the museum too. Jeff, come any time up from Philly.

1054
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Lindsey Barra for joining our

1055
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: Memorial Day episode. And if you've got some time to

1056
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: spend with your friends and family, we did too, and

1057
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 1: we recorded this podcast with the help.

1058
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: Of these amazing family. We've got my mom, Kathy, say

1059
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: hi to the people. Hi, there you go.

1060
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: We've got my wife Emily, and our daughter McKinley. Here

1061
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: you go, good, our dog Ranger, and then Dad, who

1062
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: do you have over that?

1063
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: We've got our daughter Kelly and her husband Mark and Carson,

1064
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 2: our grandson.

1065
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: He's a dog, our granddaughter Emma, the granddaughter. Yeah, and

1066
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: this is this is our family. And so from our

1067
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: family to yours, a happy Memorial Day weekend and thank

1068
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: you for always being part of our family.