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Speaker 1: The season with Peter Schreeger as a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with My Heart Radio. What's Up, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the season with Peter Schreeger.

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Speaker 1: I am Peter Schreeger. I host Good Morning Football in

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Speaker 1: the NFL network. I'm also on Fox NFL Kickoff on

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Speaker 1: Saturdays this week. We usually Sundays, and I occasionally am

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Speaker 1: on a sideline during a game getting snow slashed, ice

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Speaker 1: thrown at the back of me um by a fired

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Speaker 1: up crowd in western Buffalo. I'm joined today by my producer,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Wong Kaufman, who is doing the show remotely, so

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Speaker 1: it's the first time we haven't been like together in

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Speaker 1: the room. Aaron, what's up, Bud? Not too much. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm up here in Maine for the holidays, and um,

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Speaker 1: you had you had your ex aparience in the snow

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Speaker 1: with Buffalo, and I spent the weekend shoveling the driveway,

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Speaker 1: so I think I'm tough. I live in New York City.

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Speaker 1: It's cold here. We walked the streets were like all right,

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Speaker 1: we got the wind in our face. That Buffalo cold

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Speaker 1: hit a different way, and I'm sure that main cold

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Speaker 1: hit a different way. Let me give you a quick

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Speaker 1: recap of the weekend. Everyone saw the game. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you this stuff you might not have seen, and some

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Speaker 1: of the other stuff that I collected during the weekend

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Speaker 1: while I was up in Buffalo. Start off with a

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Speaker 1: long conversation with Mike McDaniel, the head coach of the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, and the week leading up I was assigned

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Speaker 1: to the Dolphins uh sidelines, so I had an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to sit with Mike. And I'll tell you what he

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Speaker 1: is as unique a figure in the NFL as you're

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Speaker 1: gonna find. He is so refreshing. He is such a personality.

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Speaker 1: But he's also empathetic, which I think is a weird

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Speaker 1: word to use when we talk about NFL head coaches.

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Speaker 1: Most of our conversation was about Towah and it was

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Speaker 1: off the record, but sort of on the record. Use

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Speaker 1: it in the game broadcast if you want, but I

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Speaker 1: is perfect. Really, what he was saying about to ah

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Speaker 1: Um was that, you know, think about putting yourself in

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Speaker 1: two is shoes, twenty four year old kid. You're not

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Speaker 1: a robot. You're a human being. You go from being

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Speaker 1: the most celebrated college football player to the serious injury,

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Speaker 1: and then for the first two years of your career

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Speaker 1: being essentially told by everyone and their mother that you're

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Speaker 1: playing really well, and then you're the m v P

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Speaker 1: and then you're the leading vote getter for the Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 1: and then after two bad games, you're a bust again.

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Speaker 1: And he said that he saw too on the sideline

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Speaker 1: when he's watching the TV copy of their loss to

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, which was the primetime game, and Mike was

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Speaker 1: watching the game back. It was like, I don't like

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Speaker 1: that look into his face. I don't like that look

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Speaker 1: with Tah is not just pumping him up and lifting

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Speaker 1: I'm frustrated as a coach because I see this, this

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Speaker 1: and this, But how's to a feeling I I don't

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Speaker 1: it's top down and you're seeing some stuff and in

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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson's you know, being handled not by the coaches

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Speaker 1: and a lot of it is, you know, what do

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Speaker 1: him do too much with toua. I think the McDaniel

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Speaker 1: to a relationship was really interesting. But Aaron, that was

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Speaker 1: just the football stuff. I went for wings twice on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Should I be embarrassed? No, that's great. I saw I

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Speaker 1: saw a post about you went to Gabriel's Gate, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But there was actually more to the story and landed.

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Speaker 1: I had a meeting with the NFL network guys. The

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Speaker 1: meeting ended and Brandon Bean, who's the GM of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, was in downtown Buffalo, which is about twenty

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, a drink before dinner sounds fine.

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Speaker 1: twenty wins. We ordered pizza. I indulged, I enjoyed myself.

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Speaker 1: The wings were fine. I'm not gonna say the Botto

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Speaker 1: Where are we going? He goes, Let's find one of

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Speaker 1: the Wings places. Turns out this Gabriel's Gate is an

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Speaker 1: And I'm in my head like I don't need two

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Speaker 1: the Wings were amazing. Everything's great. And the players that

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Speaker 1: They weren't indulging in the Wings like I was I

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Speaker 1: Gabriel's Gate and the response is warm, it's great, and

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Speaker 1: and next year and we're taking the season with Peter

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Speaker 1: Scheger on the road, we will do it from bar Bill.

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Speaker 1: We will have ourselves some wings. We will satisfy those.

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Speaker 1: But as of right now, number one in my rankings

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Speaker 1: more than my night. There's more, Like can I just

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Speaker 1: He let me a pair of wool socks. It was

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Speaker 1: Very good. I enjoyed Sidelines, but the owner of great Dude,

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Speaker 1: my promo. But they're like no food allowed or the

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Speaker 1: to say no to a good time Dominoes, full pie

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Speaker 1: my French onion soup, the blue cheese, the Saturday night

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Speaker 1: two Am Domino's pizza, And here we are doing the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's too much information, but that was my trip

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Speaker 1: to Buffalo. I loved it. That's amazing. I always get

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Speaker 1: in New York City. There's great pizza. I feel really

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Speaker 1: but there is nothing. As someone who's been to college,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing quite like the two Am Domino's pizza. Like

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Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Papa John's. I don't care

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Speaker 1: if it's Dominoes. I don't care if it's a little Sea,

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Speaker 1: don't care. Dude, all indulge. I haven't had Pizza Hut

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Speaker 1: over the Pizza Hut, still doing it. Don't know. I'd

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Speaker 1: they have like a salad bar in the Pizza Hut.

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Speaker 1: cup filled with coke. Yeah, pizza Hut. If you're listening,

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Speaker 1: in China, pizza huts are like fancy sit down restaurants. Really, yeah,

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Speaker 1: vote is waited deffinitely than your second place vote data

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Speaker 1: in your third day vote, and then they put those

420
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Speaker 1: tabulations together and that's how the m v P is voted.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you, if you're a voter and you

422
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Speaker 1: have to rank, you're top four right now, knowing that

423
00:20:30,626 --> 00:20:33,466
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts might miss a couple of weeks, who who

424
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Speaker 1: do you put in your belt? And then I'll do mine? Okay,

425
00:20:35,586 --> 00:20:38,626
Speaker 1: I think unfortunately, I think Mahomes is first. I think

426
00:20:38,706 --> 00:20:42,226
Speaker 1: it hurts the second. Um. You know, I don't want

427
00:20:42,226 --> 00:20:43,626
Speaker 1: to be too much of a Homer, but I'm gonna

428
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Speaker 1: have Alan third. You're not Josh Allen's amazing. Yeah, I

429
00:20:46,666 --> 00:20:52,306
Speaker 1: just know it's it's tough to say that. Um. Fourth, Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Russell Wilson just so that he can

431
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Speaker 1: finally get a vote. No, not seriously, but Russell Wilson

432
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Speaker 1: not getting a vote for them if he was like

433
00:21:00,466 --> 00:21:03,506
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard, Like, yes, we understand, stop

434
00:21:03,506 --> 00:21:06,986
Speaker 1: mentioning it every time. Um, I'll fill it in. Your fourth,

435
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Speaker 1: I would say, without your the listen for you probably

436
00:21:09,066 --> 00:21:13,826
Speaker 1: go either justin Jefferson or Burrow? Right would Burrow? Yeah, Yeah,

437
00:21:14,066 --> 00:21:16,746
Speaker 1: mine would go like this, I really want to put

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Speaker 1: firm Hurts. I think it sucks that he got hurt,

439
00:21:19,266 --> 00:21:24,426
Speaker 1: but like I understand it, I'd go one Mahomes two,

440
00:21:24,466 --> 00:21:26,666
Speaker 1: I'd go, Okay, how about this, the winner of the

441
00:21:26,706 --> 00:21:30,226
Speaker 1: Monday night game between Cincinnati and Buffalo in week seventeen

442
00:21:30,306 --> 00:21:32,786
Speaker 1: is my number two? Vote get her? So that's Alan

443
00:21:32,906 --> 00:21:34,386
Speaker 1: or Burrow two, three the other other and then I

444
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Speaker 1: guess Hurts is four. So those are my four guys

445
00:21:36,946 --> 00:21:38,546
Speaker 1: that are in there, all quarterbacks. I know it sounds

446
00:21:38,546 --> 00:21:40,106
Speaker 1: like it's a quarterback award, but those are the four

447
00:21:40,146 --> 00:21:42,666
Speaker 1: I would go with. Uh And I'm curious with the

448
00:21:42,706 --> 00:21:45,666
Speaker 1: listeners think as of right now going into week sixteen,

449
00:21:46,106 --> 00:21:51,826
Speaker 1: Mahomes Hurts with an asterik Alan and of course Joe Burrow,

450
00:21:51,866 --> 00:21:54,266
Speaker 1: who is suddenly red hot and is getting himself in

451
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Speaker 1: the conversation. Alright, fourth down? Who do you want to

452
00:21:57,586 --> 00:22:01,346
Speaker 1: shout out this week? Two years old turned twenty two

453
00:22:01,466 --> 00:22:06,026
Speaker 1: five days ago and might have had the best single

454
00:22:06,106 --> 00:22:08,786
Speaker 1: game performance by a New York Giant in a big

455
00:22:08,826 --> 00:22:11,786
Speaker 1: game in the last five years. Cavon Thibodeaux is my

456
00:22:11,866 --> 00:22:14,306
Speaker 1: shout out. I got to know this guy just a

457
00:22:14,306 --> 00:22:16,746
Speaker 1: little bit in the pre draft process. But what I

458
00:22:16,786 --> 00:22:18,946
Speaker 1: really got to know was what other people were saying

459
00:22:18,946 --> 00:22:21,706
Speaker 1: about him and the Giants, And we had Joe Shane

460
00:22:21,786 --> 00:22:24,906
Speaker 1: on earlier in the season on this podcast. The Giants

461
00:22:24,946 --> 00:22:26,866
Speaker 1: really liked what they saw. They were like, he's authentic.

462
00:22:27,786 --> 00:22:29,746
Speaker 1: He says things, but he backs him up and he

463
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Speaker 1: actually means them, and he's a good kid, and he's

464
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Speaker 1: a smart kid. And I think he had the quote

465
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Speaker 1: of the year and he's like prime Time, I don't

466
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Speaker 1: look for prime time, prime Time finds me. Whatever he

467
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Speaker 1: said after that game. Thibodeau was amazing on Sunday night.

468
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Speaker 1: Amazing in a game where we're like, oh, Daniel Jones

469
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Speaker 1: and Sakwan Barkley have to step up. They did, but

470
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Speaker 1: it was Thibodeaux who stole the show. And for the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants to have a defensive player play like

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Speaker 1: that in a Sunday night game in the NFC East,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't be more jazz for this market, for that team,

474
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Speaker 1: for that franchise, and for that kid just twenty two

475
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Speaker 1: years old. I thought he was the best rookie on

476
00:23:03,266 --> 00:23:05,986
Speaker 1: the field this weekend, and he makes the game saving

477
00:23:06,026 --> 00:23:08,986
Speaker 1: tackle on third on second and goal but also makes

478
00:23:09,026 --> 00:23:11,346
Speaker 1: the game saving you know, strip touchdown, all whole thing.

479
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Speaker 1: Thibodeau is a freak. We've been waiting for him. He's

480
00:23:13,746 --> 00:23:16,546
Speaker 1: been showing flashes and it's been boiling up to this point.

481
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Speaker 1: They've got three games left. They need him to play

482
00:23:19,186 --> 00:23:21,826
Speaker 1: that way for those final three weeks. And I'll tell

483
00:23:21,826 --> 00:23:25,466
Speaker 1: you what New York New York football between Garrett Wilson

484
00:23:25,826 --> 00:23:30,706
Speaker 1: and Sauce Gardner and Bam Knight, the rookies that these

485
00:23:30,786 --> 00:23:32,706
Speaker 1: that this market has right now, and now you add

486
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Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeau to that, just an unbelievable performance. Who do

487
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Speaker 1: you give your who do you give your fourth down to?

488
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Speaker 1: Before we go to that? I just want to I

489
00:23:40,266 --> 00:23:43,066
Speaker 1: was looking at some cavan stuff too, And according to

490
00:23:43,146 --> 00:23:46,506
Speaker 1: New York Post, before the game, usually for the Giants,

491
00:23:46,866 --> 00:23:49,746
Speaker 1: Xavier McKinney pulls everyone together and they just like have

492
00:23:49,826 --> 00:23:53,946
Speaker 1: a game little huddle because he was injured. Thibodeau did it,

493
00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:58,906
Speaker 1: and yeah, Kwan was like, it's amazing the leadership. This

494
00:23:58,946 --> 00:24:04,026
Speaker 1: guy is showing like sixteen game fifteen games in his career. Um,

495
00:24:04,226 --> 00:24:06,266
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'd love to seeing that. And he was

496
00:24:06,306 --> 00:24:09,186
Speaker 1: amazing to watch. The Giants were struggling on offense, and

497
00:24:09,226 --> 00:24:14,266
Speaker 1: he kickstarted him. And despite being a defensive player, Um,

498
00:24:14,306 --> 00:24:16,546
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go from my fourth down, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go with Jerick McKinnon, who you know, I remember watching

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Speaker 1: him in Minnesota. He was always split in time with

501
00:24:22,946 --> 00:24:26,906
Speaker 1: met Aciota, and Aciota would get all the touchdown Yeah.

502
00:24:27,026 --> 00:24:30,026
Speaker 1: And then then he goes Remember his free agent signing,

503
00:24:30,626 --> 00:24:33,946
Speaker 1: it was such a big broke it. Yeah, Shanahan was

504
00:24:34,026 --> 00:24:37,426
Speaker 1: so excited. It was Jets or Niners, and he chose

505
00:24:37,466 --> 00:24:39,346
Speaker 1: the Niners over the Jets. And it was like a

506
00:24:39,346 --> 00:24:41,946
Speaker 1: bidding war at the end. Yeah. And and there was

507
00:24:42,066 --> 00:24:44,786
Speaker 1: so much like optimism for what he could do in

508
00:24:44,786 --> 00:24:46,946
Speaker 1: the Shanahan system. And he gets injured, and then he

509
00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:49,066
Speaker 1: comes back and he gets injured, and and it just

510
00:24:49,106 --> 00:24:53,346
Speaker 1: seemed like his career was kind of petering out. He

511
00:24:53,546 --> 00:24:56,426
Speaker 1: signs with the Chiefs, and you know, this year cech

512
00:24:56,546 --> 00:24:59,146
Speaker 1: started for them, and he was catching all these touchdown passes.

513
00:24:59,186 --> 00:25:00,786
Speaker 1: He was like a red zone weapon for them, and

514
00:25:00,786 --> 00:25:03,666
Speaker 1: then he faded out. Pacheco comes in and then this game,

515
00:25:03,706 --> 00:25:06,506
Speaker 1: Pacheco fumbles in the second. He's like out of the

516
00:25:06,626 --> 00:25:11,186
Speaker 1: game for a long time, and McKinnon just like he's

517
00:25:11,266 --> 00:25:14,146
Speaker 1: he. He He had the game winning touchdown and over time

518
00:25:14,546 --> 00:25:19,186
Speaker 1: he had seventy receiving yards. He had another reception receiving touchdown,

519
00:25:19,266 --> 00:25:21,986
Speaker 1: he got the two point conversion like he and he

520
00:25:22,026 --> 00:25:26,426
Speaker 1: was big against the Broncos too, with two touchdowns. He's amazing.

521
00:25:26,466 --> 00:25:28,186
Speaker 1: So it's so good to say. I'll tell you this.

522
00:25:29,146 --> 00:25:31,546
Speaker 1: Last year in the NFC Championship game, they were riding

523
00:25:31,626 --> 00:25:33,866
Speaker 1: McKinnon against the Bengals and they were sitting pretty and

524
00:25:33,906 --> 00:25:35,546
Speaker 1: then he didn't touch the ball in the second half

525
00:25:35,586 --> 00:25:38,026
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. They went away from that and Mahomes

526
00:25:38,026 --> 00:25:40,906
Speaker 1: struggled and and defensive coordinator lowed and Rumot had all

527
00:25:40,946 --> 00:25:44,466
Speaker 1: these tricks up their sleeve to confirm McKinnon almost was

528
00:25:44,506 --> 00:25:47,026
Speaker 1: that guy last year for the Chiefs. That foresee him

529
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Speaker 1: come back and then do it this year. I couldn't.

530
00:25:48,986 --> 00:25:50,626
Speaker 1: I couldn't refer a guy more. I give you a

531
00:25:50,666 --> 00:25:52,826
Speaker 1: personal story. I was in Vegas with my friends one time,

532
00:25:52,826 --> 00:25:55,626
Speaker 1: no joke, and Jet McKinnon and Matt Brita, who are

533
00:25:55,626 --> 00:25:58,266
Speaker 1: college teammates, were there together and I didn't recognize him,

534
00:25:58,266 --> 00:26:01,186
Speaker 1: had anything, And McKinnon's like, Yo, Shriggs, what's up? And

535
00:26:01,226 --> 00:26:02,786
Speaker 1: like we were in the club together, and I was like,

536
00:26:02,826 --> 00:26:04,346
Speaker 1: coolest moment. I'm like, I went to the club with

537
00:26:04,426 --> 00:26:06,026
Speaker 1: Jett McKinnon. He was the man. I think he was

538
00:26:06,066 --> 00:26:08,146
Speaker 1: drinking water that night, so I have new respect for him.

539
00:26:08,186 --> 00:26:10,466
Speaker 1: Pretty good guy. Um. But yeah, let's see how it

540
00:26:10,506 --> 00:26:13,946
Speaker 1: goes down the stretch and I love that pick. That's great.

541
00:26:13,986 --> 00:26:16,106
Speaker 1: Are you ready to bring our new guests in? Yeah,

542
00:26:16,146 --> 00:26:18,746
Speaker 1: I'm excited and should I should I set it up

543
00:26:18,746 --> 00:26:21,746
Speaker 1: a little bit. This guest has I think I want

544
00:26:21,746 --> 00:26:23,346
Speaker 1: to tell him this and I'll say it as much

545
00:26:23,386 --> 00:26:25,426
Speaker 1: when we bring him on. But like, there's been a

546
00:26:25,466 --> 00:26:29,826
Speaker 1: couple innovations in an NFL TV that's been really cool.

547
00:26:29,826 --> 00:26:31,746
Speaker 1: I think that the first down marker being yellow was

548
00:26:31,786 --> 00:26:34,506
Speaker 1: a cool one. The scoreboard being on the game. I

549
00:26:34,546 --> 00:26:36,626
Speaker 1: thought when they brought in Mike Pereira for the first time,

550
00:26:36,706 --> 00:26:39,666
Speaker 1: that was cool. And then there was this guy's addition

551
00:26:40,346 --> 00:26:43,906
Speaker 1: to the NBC studio show. Our guest is the man

552
00:26:43,986 --> 00:26:47,066
Speaker 1: in the khakis. We're bringing on Steve Cornaki after this

553
00:26:50,986 --> 00:26:53,866
Speaker 1: and now it's time for our guest. I'm so excited

554
00:26:53,906 --> 00:26:56,146
Speaker 1: to have him on the podcast. As I mentioned going

555
00:26:56,186 --> 00:26:59,746
Speaker 1: into the commercial break, there have been some great innovations

556
00:26:59,746 --> 00:27:02,266
Speaker 1: in Sports TV in recent years. I love the first

557
00:27:02,306 --> 00:27:04,226
Speaker 1: down marker. I love the fact that we can now

558
00:27:04,266 --> 00:27:07,626
Speaker 1: see the scoreboard. I think the addition on Mike Pereira,

559
00:27:07,746 --> 00:27:09,626
Speaker 1: I like Mike Dupp. I think when you have the

560
00:27:09,626 --> 00:27:12,666
Speaker 1: players audio on the field, that's cool. But there may

561
00:27:12,706 --> 00:27:14,986
Speaker 1: be no more enjoyable thing that I see on a

562
00:27:15,026 --> 00:27:18,946
Speaker 1: Sunday night at around seven thirty o'clock seven thirty eight

563
00:27:18,946 --> 00:27:21,946
Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern and December and January when I see this

564
00:27:22,026 --> 00:27:24,306
Speaker 1: gentleman in khaki pants show up on my television with

565
00:27:24,386 --> 00:27:27,306
Speaker 1: a giant screen and he's breaking down the playoffs scenarios

566
00:27:27,586 --> 00:27:30,146
Speaker 1: with no further ado. One of my favorite guys to

567
00:27:30,226 --> 00:27:35,026
Speaker 1: see on television during playoff time, Mr Steve KORNACKI, Steve,

568
00:27:35,106 --> 00:27:38,226
Speaker 1: what's up man? What a what a welcome? She's the

569
00:27:38,426 --> 00:27:41,506
Speaker 1: compared me to the first town marker. I love you know.

570
00:27:41,626 --> 00:27:44,306
Speaker 1: It's it's cool because I've been watching you for years

571
00:27:44,426 --> 00:27:49,266
Speaker 1: on on MSNBC NBC, and I know politics, uh was

572
00:27:49,266 --> 00:27:50,906
Speaker 1: where you got your start. But I got to imagine

573
00:27:50,906 --> 00:27:54,706
Speaker 1: a lot of football fans they look at you as

574
00:27:54,706 --> 00:27:57,266
Speaker 1: the playoff guy and not as the election. You know,

575
00:27:57,386 --> 00:28:01,066
Speaker 1: let's go into the Gerryman during situation here in Nebraska. Um,

576
00:28:01,146 --> 00:28:04,506
Speaker 1: how have football fans kind of come to you in

577
00:28:04,546 --> 00:28:06,626
Speaker 1: the last couple of years since you have been in

578
00:28:06,626 --> 00:28:09,586
Speaker 1: the playoffs on NBC on that big screen TV. Yeah, no,

579
00:28:09,626 --> 00:28:11,386
Speaker 1: I mean it's been it's been just a really fun

580
00:28:11,426 --> 00:28:13,506
Speaker 1: experience for me, A great experience. Kind of. I think

581
00:28:13,546 --> 00:28:17,786
Speaker 1: it came out of the election. Um, you know, I

582
00:28:17,826 --> 00:28:21,226
Speaker 1: got a call from NBC Sports. Obviously the election ended

583
00:28:21,426 --> 00:28:23,546
Speaker 1: right as the playoff race was kind of heating up.

584
00:28:23,586 --> 00:28:25,066
Speaker 1: You know, it's that time of year when you get

585
00:28:25,066 --> 00:28:27,786
Speaker 1: close to Thanksgiving or so, and really just kind of

586
00:28:27,826 --> 00:28:30,506
Speaker 1: kind of thought it was a natural fit the you know,

587
00:28:30,626 --> 00:28:32,426
Speaker 1: believe it or not, just when you look at the election,

588
00:28:32,946 --> 00:28:35,826
Speaker 1: you know, presidential election. You know, I spent months leading

589
00:28:35,906 --> 00:28:38,546
Speaker 1: up to election night doing the road the two hundred

590
00:28:38,586 --> 00:28:41,266
Speaker 1: seventy electoral votes. You know, if this candidate wins this state,

591
00:28:41,306 --> 00:28:43,986
Speaker 1: if this candidate wins that state, what are the different scenarios,

592
00:28:44,226 --> 00:28:46,866
Speaker 1: what's the probability of all that? And it really there's

593
00:28:46,906 --> 00:28:48,866
Speaker 1: a lot of overlap there with the with the NFL

594
00:28:48,946 --> 00:28:51,026
Speaker 1: playoff chase. You know, hey, look, if the Jags win

595
00:28:51,106 --> 00:28:53,026
Speaker 1: this game, if the Titans lose that game, what's it

596
00:28:53,026 --> 00:28:54,626
Speaker 1: gonna do to the odds. What's it gonna do to

597
00:28:54,666 --> 00:28:57,226
Speaker 1: the uh, you know, to the big picture. So you know,

598
00:28:57,226 --> 00:28:59,066
Speaker 1: we really thought there was kind of an overlap. There

599
00:28:59,386 --> 00:29:02,026
Speaker 1: got a chance to start doing it in this is

600
00:29:02,066 --> 00:29:04,546
Speaker 1: the third year, and yeah, it's one of those It's

601
00:29:04,586 --> 00:29:07,826
Speaker 1: just look, I'm a fan myself. You I love the UH.

602
00:29:07,866 --> 00:29:09,786
Speaker 1: I love the playoff chase I always have. So you

603
00:29:09,786 --> 00:29:11,506
Speaker 1: get to actually kind of cover it is. It's just

604
00:29:11,546 --> 00:29:13,826
Speaker 1: a really cool experience. I think you're great at it

605
00:29:13,866 --> 00:29:16,906
Speaker 1: and you give it um this almost analytical, data driven

606
00:29:17,426 --> 00:29:19,786
Speaker 1: angle to it with without the editorial that you put

607
00:29:19,826 --> 00:29:21,506
Speaker 1: in there. You don't usually kind of weighing on your

608
00:29:21,506 --> 00:29:23,266
Speaker 1: thoughts on what you think is gonna happen. You're like,

609
00:29:23,266 --> 00:29:25,946
Speaker 1: just hear the numbers and hear how it goes, um.

610
00:29:25,986 --> 00:29:29,026
Speaker 1: But you weren't always just data driven, you know, five

611
00:29:29,066 --> 00:29:31,466
Speaker 1: thirty eight like that kind of stuff. You you you've

612
00:29:31,466 --> 00:29:34,306
Speaker 1: had a really rich journalism career and I go through

613
00:29:34,346 --> 00:29:37,186
Speaker 1: it with with different publications. When did you start leaning

614
00:29:37,186 --> 00:29:39,386
Speaker 1: into the numbers and when did you become that guy

615
00:29:39,466 --> 00:29:41,506
Speaker 1: on the political side, and then how did you translate

616
00:29:41,506 --> 00:29:43,866
Speaker 1: that over to the sports side. Yeah, it's funny. I

617
00:29:43,906 --> 00:29:47,346
Speaker 1: mean I started I covered New Jersey politics. I think

618
00:29:47,346 --> 00:29:49,986
Speaker 1: you're from Jersey originally, so you can probably you can

619
00:29:50,026 --> 00:29:52,506
Speaker 1: appreciate what a rich what a rich could go back

620
00:29:52,546 --> 00:29:56,506
Speaker 1: to Christine Whitman. Let's go oh Man, Okay, yeah, Whitman.

621
00:29:56,586 --> 00:29:59,026
Speaker 1: I got there is McGreevey was coming in, Bob Torres.

622
00:29:59,026 --> 00:30:03,026
Speaker 1: So we're gonna go a separate podcast. But uh, Jersey

623
00:30:03,106 --> 00:30:05,746
Speaker 1: was a great place to learn in the cover politics.

624
00:30:05,746 --> 00:30:07,906
Speaker 1: And I tell people still to this day, the best

625
00:30:07,946 --> 00:30:11,306
Speaker 1: stories I have, you know are like just covering the beat.

626
00:30:11,346 --> 00:30:14,266
Speaker 1: What were you doing? No, I lived in I started

627
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Speaker 1: in Woodbridge because it was centrally located, ended up in Hoboken.

628
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Speaker 1: And the fun part of doing it then for me

629
00:30:21,306 --> 00:30:23,826
Speaker 1: was I didn't just cover the state House. I covered

630
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Speaker 1: you know, Jersey has these these big strong regional county

631
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Speaker 1: political organizations, Hudson County, Bergen County, yes, the Irish, Yeah,

632
00:30:36,306 --> 00:30:38,466
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's where that's where the stories came from.

633
00:30:38,546 --> 00:30:41,026
Speaker 1: So uh, I got to cover that. Spent a lot

634
00:30:41,026 --> 00:30:42,906
Speaker 1: of time in Hackensack, you know, I spent a lot

635
00:30:42,946 --> 00:30:45,586
Speaker 1: of time in New York and Jersey City, and and

636
00:30:45,586 --> 00:30:47,226
Speaker 1: that's where I got the best stories from. But I

637
00:30:47,226 --> 00:30:48,746
Speaker 1: loved I did three years of doing that. Then I

638
00:30:48,786 --> 00:30:51,466
Speaker 1: covered Congress you know for a little while, and and

639
00:30:51,506 --> 00:30:54,266
Speaker 1: came back up this way and I actually it's it's I.

640
00:30:54,426 --> 00:30:57,826
Speaker 1: I did some sports stuff. Um. I was writing for

641
00:30:57,826 --> 00:30:59,826
Speaker 1: the New York Observative. This goes back about ten years ago.

642
00:30:59,866 --> 00:31:02,906
Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal had launched a sports section, um,

643
00:31:03,026 --> 00:31:04,706
Speaker 1: and they had a thing called the Count and they

644
00:31:04,706 --> 00:31:08,026
Speaker 1: were trying to kind of combine number sports and so

645
00:31:08,066 --> 00:31:09,986
Speaker 1: I was a contributor to that for a little while.

646
00:31:10,066 --> 00:31:12,026
Speaker 1: So that's how I kind of got got started a

647
00:31:12,066 --> 00:31:15,586
Speaker 1: little bit with that crossover of you know, politics and sports. Uh.

648
00:31:15,626 --> 00:31:17,866
Speaker 1: Then ended up you know, doing the TV stuff and

649
00:31:17,906 --> 00:31:20,426
Speaker 1: election nights and here we are. Yeah, and when you

650
00:31:20,466 --> 00:31:23,106
Speaker 1: prepare for that election night and you're doing the numbers

651
00:31:23,106 --> 00:31:27,426
Speaker 1: at the board, obviously John King's on CNN, You're on MSNBC. Uh,

652
00:31:27,706 --> 00:31:29,266
Speaker 1: who the Brett Bear. I don't know who's doing it

653
00:31:29,266 --> 00:31:31,346
Speaker 1: for Fox News. But it's like this has now become

654
00:31:32,106 --> 00:31:34,626
Speaker 1: a job, like just like NFL Insiders, a job just

655
00:31:34,746 --> 00:31:36,666
Speaker 1: like you know, this is the cooking segment on the show.

656
00:31:36,706 --> 00:31:39,346
Speaker 1: Like you are the guy at that full screen and

657
00:31:39,386 --> 00:31:41,906
Speaker 1: you have to manage not only the numbers but also

658
00:31:41,986 --> 00:31:43,986
Speaker 1: be the technical guy. To know where to go and

659
00:31:44,026 --> 00:31:47,466
Speaker 1: where to swipe. How much work are you putting in

660
00:31:47,466 --> 00:31:49,866
Speaker 1: into just the technical part of knowing how all those

661
00:31:49,906 --> 00:31:52,146
Speaker 1: things work and then also trying to balance that with

662
00:31:52,186 --> 00:31:54,786
Speaker 1: the actual data and information you want to provide. The

663
00:31:54,826 --> 00:31:57,546
Speaker 1: prep is is I I think the almost is a

664
00:31:57,586 --> 00:31:59,386
Speaker 1: full time job in a lot of ways, and it's

665
00:31:59,506 --> 00:32:02,466
Speaker 1: learning the counties, it's learning the geography, it's learning the

666
00:32:02,506 --> 00:32:04,426
Speaker 1: history of each county to be able to say something

667
00:32:04,466 --> 00:32:07,106
Speaker 1: meaningful on the fly if a count it comes into

668
00:32:07,466 --> 00:32:10,146
Speaker 1: into play. Um. The other thing that's become a huge

669
00:32:10,186 --> 00:32:11,666
Speaker 1: part of this in the last couple of years is,

670
00:32:12,026 --> 00:32:15,506
Speaker 1: you know, voting is more complicated than ever. People vote

671
00:32:15,506 --> 00:32:18,386
Speaker 1: by mail, People vote two weeks early at an early

672
00:32:18,466 --> 00:32:21,186
Speaker 1: voting site. People vote on election day at a at

673
00:32:21,226 --> 00:32:25,466
Speaker 1: a polling place, and those depending on what which way

674
00:32:25,546 --> 00:32:27,826
Speaker 1: people vote is are very different. You know that the

675
00:32:27,826 --> 00:32:30,666
Speaker 1: people who vote an election day it's pretty strongly Republican.

676
00:32:30,786 --> 00:32:33,986
Speaker 1: The people who vote by mail it's overwhelmingly democratic. And

677
00:32:34,026 --> 00:32:36,186
Speaker 1: so one of the things that I do is I

678
00:32:36,226 --> 00:32:40,986
Speaker 1: spend months calling county level election officials across the country

679
00:32:41,346 --> 00:32:44,746
Speaker 1: and asking them, what is your sequence on election? What

680
00:32:44,906 --> 00:32:49,826
Speaker 1: is the sequence that specific because it's meaningful because if

681
00:32:49,826 --> 00:32:51,626
Speaker 1: we're standing there, you know this, George, we just had

682
00:32:51,626 --> 00:32:53,506
Speaker 1: a Georgia Senate run off, and if we get a

683
00:32:53,546 --> 00:32:56,626
Speaker 1: big batch of votes from a big county fifteen minutes,

684
00:32:56,746 --> 00:32:59,026
Speaker 1: you know, after polls closed, you need to know what

685
00:32:59,066 --> 00:33:01,346
Speaker 1: you're looking at, you know, if you're if if it's

686
00:33:01,386 --> 00:33:04,746
Speaker 1: mail ballots, it could mean one thing. If it's early votes,

687
00:33:04,826 --> 00:33:07,226
Speaker 1: it could mean something else. If it's same day votes,

688
00:33:07,226 --> 00:33:09,146
Speaker 1: it could mean a third thing. And to be able

689
00:33:09,186 --> 00:33:10,906
Speaker 1: to interpret it, you need to know what it is.

690
00:33:11,266 --> 00:33:13,626
Speaker 1: And it's very as the votes come into our system,

691
00:33:13,626 --> 00:33:15,906
Speaker 1: it can be very unclear. So a lot of this

692
00:33:15,986 --> 00:33:19,146
Speaker 1: is just calling up county election officials asking them to

693
00:33:19,186 --> 00:33:21,466
Speaker 1: take you through what their plan is. Um. A lot

694
00:33:21,466 --> 00:33:23,226
Speaker 1: of them are really good about it, you know about

695
00:33:23,306 --> 00:33:25,826
Speaker 1: talking about it. And one thing I've learned too is

696
00:33:25,866 --> 00:33:29,626
Speaker 1: that old Mike Tyson line. Everyone's got up to a

697
00:33:29,666 --> 00:33:31,466
Speaker 1: lot of times. A lot of times they got a

698
00:33:31,506 --> 00:33:33,106
Speaker 1: good plan for what they're gonna do, but it doesn't

699
00:33:33,106 --> 00:33:34,626
Speaker 1: work out, and you've got to be so good on

700
00:33:34,666 --> 00:33:38,546
Speaker 1: the fly. And I respected so much. TV though, is

701
00:33:38,586 --> 00:33:41,026
Speaker 1: a visual medium and it's not just the information. You

702
00:33:41,026 --> 00:33:42,866
Speaker 1: also have a look and you have a style and

703
00:33:42,946 --> 00:33:46,786
Speaker 1: a swagger and there's cornaki is a thing. And I remember,

704
00:33:47,186 --> 00:33:49,346
Speaker 1: you know, after the election, they showed your tie. Maybe

705
00:33:49,346 --> 00:33:51,186
Speaker 1: you put it on Instagram or something, and it was

706
00:33:51,186 --> 00:33:54,026
Speaker 1: put together by Staples because you have been ripping it

707
00:33:54,066 --> 00:33:56,586
Speaker 1: off so many times, like Christ like Chris Farley, like

708
00:33:56,586 --> 00:33:58,786
Speaker 1: in a van down the river. You're just You're in it, man,

709
00:33:58,946 --> 00:34:01,386
Speaker 1: You're totally in it. Your look I think I feel

710
00:34:01,386 --> 00:34:03,106
Speaker 1: like that's just authentically you, which I love that they

711
00:34:03,106 --> 00:34:04,866
Speaker 1: didn't try to try to change that when when you

712
00:34:04,906 --> 00:34:06,866
Speaker 1: got on air. The problem with a tie was I

713
00:34:06,906 --> 00:34:08,946
Speaker 1: don't know, I still don't learn how to tie a time, right,

714
00:34:08,986 --> 00:34:12,146
Speaker 1: So that was the only Yeah, this was twice was pandemic.

715
00:34:12,146 --> 00:34:14,866
Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of folks around, so I know

716
00:34:14,986 --> 00:34:16,826
Speaker 1: people who know how to tie ties. That's how I've

717
00:34:16,866 --> 00:34:19,306
Speaker 1: kind of got behind this world. And uh, you know,

718
00:34:19,306 --> 00:34:21,546
Speaker 1: I I usually have a few kind of just on

719
00:34:21,666 --> 00:34:24,066
Speaker 1: the shelf, and I could put one on and finish

720
00:34:24,106 --> 00:34:26,066
Speaker 1: the knot. But it was the only one that was tied,

721
00:34:26,066 --> 00:34:27,426
Speaker 1: and there was no one else around to do it,

722
00:34:27,546 --> 00:34:28,986
Speaker 1: so I, you know, the thing was coming apart of

723
00:34:29,066 --> 00:34:32,306
Speaker 1: the seems literally stapled it together to get through the

724
00:34:32,346 --> 00:34:34,506
Speaker 1: election week. Now I got a second one, but once

725
00:34:34,506 --> 00:34:36,706
Speaker 1: again I had to have somebody else do the through

726
00:34:36,746 --> 00:34:38,706
Speaker 1: the dirty work for me. Did it blow you away? Though?

727
00:34:38,746 --> 00:34:41,586
Speaker 1: Like Halloween people went to Steve cornecky like, and it's

728
00:34:41,626 --> 00:34:43,866
Speaker 1: like the look of like the khakis and the tie, Like,

729
00:34:44,026 --> 00:34:45,626
Speaker 1: did you ever think in a million years that you'd

730
00:34:45,666 --> 00:34:48,626
Speaker 1: be this, you know, not only an important influential figure

731
00:34:48,626 --> 00:34:50,346
Speaker 1: in journals and be like a cultural icon in a

732
00:34:50,346 --> 00:34:53,746
Speaker 1: lot of ways. It's not. No, I still don't know

733
00:34:53,786 --> 00:34:55,906
Speaker 1: what to make of it. It's you know, baffling. I mean,

734
00:34:56,026 --> 00:34:58,026
Speaker 1: and I didn't even the whole khaki thing, I mean,

735
00:34:58,146 --> 00:34:59,986
Speaker 1: honest to God, like I I didn't set out to

736
00:35:00,026 --> 00:35:02,426
Speaker 1: make that, you know, a thing. Again, I think it

737
00:35:02,506 --> 00:35:04,706
Speaker 1: was kind of like a pandemic thing. I was. There

738
00:35:04,746 --> 00:35:07,626
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of adult supervision here Rock, and I

739
00:35:07,706 --> 00:35:09,986
Speaker 1: was just I had him on during the day and

740
00:35:09,986 --> 00:35:11,626
Speaker 1: then I look at my clock and it's like five

741
00:35:12,426 --> 00:35:14,146
Speaker 1: time to go to the studio for election night. So

742
00:35:14,186 --> 00:35:16,306
Speaker 1: I just tucked my shirt and put the tie on

743
00:35:16,466 --> 00:35:18,866
Speaker 1: and and go out there. And then the next day,

744
00:35:19,106 --> 00:35:21,666
Speaker 1: I think sometime that week, my producers asking me, He's like,

745
00:35:22,026 --> 00:35:23,546
Speaker 1: what kind of pants are those? And I'm like why

746
00:35:23,866 --> 00:35:26,866
Speaker 1: why are you asking me? People were interested? I don't

747
00:35:27,426 --> 00:35:30,546
Speaker 1: lasting honestly, So the last thing I ever ever would

748
00:35:30,546 --> 00:35:32,946
Speaker 1: have expected. I love it. Um all right, let's go

749
00:35:32,986 --> 00:35:35,066
Speaker 1: to the football side of it. So every Sunday night

750
00:35:35,426 --> 00:35:37,626
Speaker 1: you get there. What time are you rolling in to

751
00:35:38,186 --> 00:35:40,866
Speaker 1: the Stanford studios to get to that that fall that

752
00:35:40,906 --> 00:35:43,026
Speaker 1: big screen what do you call that? The full screen monitor?

753
00:35:42,906 --> 00:35:46,626
Speaker 1: What time? Yeah, it's the same technology we use here,

754
00:35:46,746 --> 00:35:49,186
Speaker 1: you know, big board. Um, there's a little different. There's

755
00:35:49,186 --> 00:35:51,426
Speaker 1: a little they got they got a wooden frame around.

756
00:35:51,466 --> 00:35:54,746
Speaker 1: There's a little classier, I think, But uh no, it's cool.

757
00:35:54,746 --> 00:35:56,146
Speaker 1: I get there, you know, a little bit before to

758
00:35:56,226 --> 00:35:58,826
Speaker 1: one o'clock games. Um, and you get to just watch,

759
00:35:58,906 --> 00:36:00,746
Speaker 1: you know, they got him all on the screen, you know,

760
00:36:00,786 --> 00:36:03,146
Speaker 1: in front of the room. Um. And it's one of

761
00:36:03,146 --> 00:36:04,666
Speaker 1: those last couple of years. And I'm just kind of

762
00:36:05,106 --> 00:36:07,506
Speaker 1: pinching myself because I'm sitting and I'm like, I'm I'm

763
00:36:07,506 --> 00:36:11,426
Speaker 1: watching the games, but really I'm like I'm watching again,

764
00:36:12,106 --> 00:36:14,906
Speaker 1: which is just you know or you know now Jason

765
00:36:14,946 --> 00:36:18,186
Speaker 1: Garrett or you know, uh and seeing their their real

766
00:36:18,226 --> 00:36:22,066
Speaker 1: time reactions, you know, two different things. Um. Is it's

767
00:36:22,066 --> 00:36:23,906
Speaker 1: really cool. It's just it's a it's a you know,

768
00:36:24,066 --> 00:36:26,266
Speaker 1: you're watching the Hall of Fame a reacting real time

769
00:36:26,306 --> 00:36:28,506
Speaker 1: to these games. And if you've ever sat there just

770
00:36:28,506 --> 00:36:30,826
Speaker 1: watching at home, wondering what they're thinking, now you're actually

771
00:36:30,826 --> 00:36:33,306
Speaker 1: seeing it. So that's that's been a really cool experience.

772
00:36:33,346 --> 00:36:35,946
Speaker 1: You have out like pad and paper, you've got a

773
00:36:35,946 --> 00:36:39,626
Speaker 1: statistician with you because in real time, those things change.

774
00:36:39,666 --> 00:36:41,586
Speaker 1: And then hey, by the way, we're going live in

775
00:36:41,626 --> 00:36:44,146
Speaker 1: about twenty minutes, Steve, what's the latest of four o'clock games?

776
00:36:44,186 --> 00:36:46,066
Speaker 1: Just ended? Like how is that all worked during the day?

777
00:36:46,066 --> 00:36:48,226
Speaker 1: Because I think you're so good in such real time

778
00:36:48,226 --> 00:36:50,226
Speaker 1: and it's almost like the n c A tournament reveal

779
00:36:50,266 --> 00:36:53,226
Speaker 1: when you're like, here're the latest playoff standings and here's

780
00:36:53,266 --> 00:36:55,546
Speaker 1: what your team needs to happen to get in. Yeah,

781
00:36:55,626 --> 00:36:58,506
Speaker 1: it's so we've we've got a great partnership with PFF,

782
00:36:58,626 --> 00:37:01,146
Speaker 1: you know, as a data provider, so they've been they're

783
00:37:01,146 --> 00:37:03,146
Speaker 1: in touch with us, you know throughout the day. You know,

784
00:37:03,306 --> 00:37:05,466
Speaker 1: got a producer, John for Along, who I work with,

785
00:37:06,066 --> 00:37:08,266
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, you know you kind of know going

786
00:37:08,306 --> 00:37:12,306
Speaker 1: into the day what the big possible playoff implications stories

787
00:37:12,426 --> 00:37:15,426
Speaker 1: could be. But then you know some of them fizzle out,

788
00:37:15,666 --> 00:37:17,186
Speaker 1: you know, based on you know, how the games go,

789
00:37:17,226 --> 00:37:18,946
Speaker 1: and then some of them really kind of come into

790
00:37:18,986 --> 00:37:22,306
Speaker 1: focus during the day, and then we get a big update,

791
00:37:22,426 --> 00:37:24,546
Speaker 1: you know, I think you know, usually it's about five o'clock,

792
00:37:24,546 --> 00:37:27,146
Speaker 1: I say, after the one o'clock games are done, we

793
00:37:27,226 --> 00:37:30,066
Speaker 1: get a big update about where things stand now and

794
00:37:30,146 --> 00:37:32,746
Speaker 1: kind of what the contingencies are for the four o'clock games.

795
00:37:32,746 --> 00:37:34,666
Speaker 1: Because you know, the way Football Night America works, we

796
00:37:34,706 --> 00:37:36,986
Speaker 1: go on seven. Usually there's still a couple of games

797
00:37:36,986 --> 00:37:39,626
Speaker 1: still playing out right, so we know there's like this

798
00:37:39,666 --> 00:37:41,986
Speaker 1: Sunday was a great example is past Sunday. You know

799
00:37:42,026 --> 00:37:44,546
Speaker 1: that a f C wild Card picture. So much hangs

800
00:37:44,546 --> 00:37:48,626
Speaker 1: on that Patriots Titans, right, and I mean, at one

801
00:37:48,626 --> 00:37:50,386
Speaker 1: point we're standing there in the middle of the seven

802
00:37:50,386 --> 00:37:53,306
Speaker 1: o'clock hour and they're both going overtime. What are we

803
00:37:53,346 --> 00:37:55,266
Speaker 1: gonna do for this hit? And then suddenly they both

804
00:37:55,426 --> 00:37:59,026
Speaker 1: end in regulation one in the most crazy and and personally,

805
00:37:59,066 --> 00:38:01,866
Speaker 1: as a Massachusetts native, pain By I've ever seen, but

806
00:38:01,906 --> 00:38:04,586
Speaker 1: it just changes and shakes up the numbers in a

807
00:38:04,666 --> 00:38:08,106
Speaker 1: huge way. Um, Okay, we're week sixteen right now. You

808
00:38:08,146 --> 00:38:09,706
Speaker 1: did the show on Sunday. We just had a Monday

809
00:38:09,786 --> 00:38:13,146
Speaker 1: night football game. Would you mind, you know, indulging us

810
00:38:13,146 --> 00:38:14,786
Speaker 1: a little bit. Can we go and we go through

811
00:38:14,826 --> 00:38:16,306
Speaker 1: some of these teams and just kind of help with

812
00:38:16,306 --> 00:38:18,226
Speaker 1: the listeners. All right, let's start with one of our

813
00:38:18,266 --> 00:38:21,346
Speaker 1: favorite teams um on this podcast, one that we talked

814
00:38:21,386 --> 00:38:23,986
Speaker 1: about all the time and we've had so much commentary

815
00:38:23,986 --> 00:38:26,746
Speaker 1: on at the Detroit Lions. They have now won what

816
00:38:26,826 --> 00:38:29,306
Speaker 1: looks to be seven of eight games. No team has

817
00:38:29,346 --> 00:38:31,506
Speaker 1: gone to the playoffs, are starting one in six since

818
00:38:31,666 --> 00:38:34,706
Speaker 1: nineteen nine. And yet here they are on the doorstep.

819
00:38:35,026 --> 00:38:37,026
Speaker 1: They're not currently in there in what we call in

820
00:38:37,066 --> 00:38:40,106
Speaker 1: the world of football quote in the hunt, but they're

821
00:38:40,226 --> 00:38:43,266
Speaker 1: right there. They've got three games left. Go through the

822
00:38:43,346 --> 00:38:47,706
Speaker 1: Lions scenario, what they need and what the percentages are. Yeah,

823
00:38:47,786 --> 00:38:53,826
Speaker 1: we got him at so still not even not even wow, Okay, no,

824
00:38:54,026 --> 00:38:57,026
Speaker 1: but it's not I mean, it's nobody. Basically, if you go,

825
00:38:57,746 --> 00:39:00,346
Speaker 1: it's a fight essentially for the last two wild card

826
00:39:00,386 --> 00:39:03,346
Speaker 1: spots in the Cowboys and then you got the two

827
00:39:03,346 --> 00:39:07,506
Speaker 1: more right Cowboys more or less, you know, you let's

828
00:39:07,506 --> 00:39:10,386
Speaker 1: stipulate that the Cowboys, you know, are are there at five,

829
00:39:10,666 --> 00:39:12,706
Speaker 1: so six right now would be the Giants the Giants

830
00:39:12,746 --> 00:39:15,866
Speaker 1: are in great shape, you know, just statistically. So then

831
00:39:15,946 --> 00:39:18,786
Speaker 1: you go down to Washington and Washington is also under

832
00:39:18,866 --> 00:39:21,306
Speaker 1: there in the seventh spot right now, but they're under fift.

833
00:39:22,186 --> 00:39:24,226
Speaker 1: Then you go to the Seahawks there in the eighth spot,

834
00:39:24,466 --> 00:39:26,626
Speaker 1: same record as Detroit, but they beat them head to head,

835
00:39:26,626 --> 00:39:28,466
Speaker 1: so they have the eight spot because of that. But

836
00:39:28,506 --> 00:39:30,986
Speaker 1: the Seahawks percentage of getting into the playoffs is actually

837
00:39:30,986 --> 00:39:32,426
Speaker 1: I think we have met twenty nine. I think there

838
00:39:32,426 --> 00:39:35,066
Speaker 1: are ten points less than Detroit because the trend is

839
00:39:35,106 --> 00:39:38,706
Speaker 1: so unfavorable. The schedule is so unfavorable for Seattle. You know,

840
00:39:38,706 --> 00:39:40,866
Speaker 1: they gotta go to play at Kansas City this week,

841
00:39:40,946 --> 00:39:44,106
Speaker 1: So you look at it from Detroit standpoint, essentially a

842
00:39:44,906 --> 00:39:47,386
Speaker 1: right now at seven and seven, I think the schedule

843
00:39:47,506 --> 00:39:51,466
Speaker 1: is you know, look Carolina Chicago at green Bay. Um,

844
00:39:51,506 --> 00:39:53,106
Speaker 1: it would have helped him. I think last night off

845
00:39:53,106 --> 00:39:55,586
Speaker 1: green Bay had lost, because then green Bay would definitely

846
00:39:55,626 --> 00:39:58,266
Speaker 1: have nothing to play for in that last game. It's possible,

847
00:39:58,746 --> 00:40:00,946
Speaker 1: not that likely, but it's possible green Bay is gonna

848
00:40:00,946 --> 00:40:03,026
Speaker 1: have something on the line in that last game. But

849
00:40:03,106 --> 00:40:06,266
Speaker 1: those are three very winnable games for Detroit on paper.

850
00:40:06,306 --> 00:40:07,626
Speaker 1: So kind of the way I look at it is

851
00:40:08,026 --> 00:40:10,066
Speaker 1: the Giants have the best chance of getting one of

852
00:40:10,066 --> 00:40:12,546
Speaker 1: those last two spots. And I think the Giants have

853
00:40:12,586 --> 00:40:15,146
Speaker 1: a gift here in the schedule because they get Philly

854
00:40:15,146 --> 00:40:20,706
Speaker 1: in the last week and Philly is probably not gonna happening. Yeah,

855
00:40:20,906 --> 00:40:23,186
Speaker 1: and if if Philly wants to rest starters, and it

856
00:40:23,226 --> 00:40:26,186
Speaker 1: looks especially likely with the jail and hurt situation, and

857
00:40:26,186 --> 00:40:28,946
Speaker 1: then you get the Colts before that the Giants, if

858
00:40:29,266 --> 00:40:32,026
Speaker 1: if you really then say, okay, Giants more likely than

859
00:40:32,026 --> 00:40:33,746
Speaker 1: that are going to hang on. Let's say that's six.

860
00:40:34,066 --> 00:40:38,426
Speaker 1: It's about Washington, Washington, Seattle, and and Detroit. And if

861
00:40:38,426 --> 00:40:41,586
Speaker 1: Detroit just wins the last three, all they need to

862
00:40:41,626 --> 00:40:45,906
Speaker 1: have happened is both Washington and Seattle lose one, and

863
00:40:46,586 --> 00:40:49,706
Speaker 1: you can it's in the past. It could be this weekend.

864
00:40:50,026 --> 00:40:52,106
Speaker 1: To actually be this weekend when you look at it

865
00:40:52,146 --> 00:40:55,186
Speaker 1: like it could happen because Detroit plays Carolina this weekend,

866
00:40:55,226 --> 00:40:58,466
Speaker 1: totally winnable, right. Seattle goes to Kansas City, huge upset

867
00:40:58,466 --> 00:41:00,506
Speaker 1: if Seattle actually wins that game. So Seattle could be

868
00:41:00,546 --> 00:41:02,706
Speaker 1: seven and eight coming out of this weekend. Detroit could

869
00:41:02,706 --> 00:41:04,386
Speaker 1: be eight and seven coming out of this weekend, and

870
00:41:04,466 --> 00:41:08,306
Speaker 1: Washington goes and plays. The Niners could obviously lose that.

871
00:41:08,306 --> 00:41:10,666
Speaker 1: They could be seven seven and one, so right away

872
00:41:10,666 --> 00:41:14,066
Speaker 1: this weekend, Detroit could pass both of them, and then

873
00:41:14,106 --> 00:41:16,226
Speaker 1: all they'd have to do is win out. All right?

874
00:41:16,346 --> 00:41:18,346
Speaker 1: Love that? All right, We've got a huge game, and

875
00:41:18,386 --> 00:41:20,466
Speaker 1: we're recording this on a Tuesday, the podcast to go

876
00:41:20,586 --> 00:41:24,026
Speaker 1: live on Tuesday night. Huge game Thursday. I laughed, because

877
00:41:24,266 --> 00:41:26,186
Speaker 1: you and I are in sports, are in sports media.

878
00:41:26,226 --> 00:41:28,506
Speaker 1: You're in a different sort of media as well when

879
00:41:28,546 --> 00:41:32,106
Speaker 1: you talk to politics. But when Jeff Bezos pays three

880
00:41:32,146 --> 00:41:34,746
Speaker 1: billion dollars to the NFL to get a Thursday night

881
00:41:34,746 --> 00:41:38,146
Speaker 1: package and they tell you you've got Jets Jaguars in

882
00:41:38,226 --> 00:41:41,506
Speaker 1: week sixteen, I can only imagine he and his lieutenants

883
00:41:41,506 --> 00:41:43,626
Speaker 1: are like, well, that's an interesting decision, NFL, thank you

884
00:41:43,746 --> 00:41:46,066
Speaker 1: very much for that. And then here we are Jets

885
00:41:46,106 --> 00:41:50,226
Speaker 1: Jaguars Thursday Night with potentially a playoff spot on the line.

886
00:41:50,266 --> 00:41:52,146
Speaker 1: Can you go through the Jets and Jaguars a little bit?

887
00:41:52,386 --> 00:41:54,586
Speaker 1: This might be spoiling the weekend listeners because they will

888
00:41:54,586 --> 00:41:57,226
Speaker 1: already know the outcome, but going into the game, how

889
00:41:57,226 --> 00:42:00,226
Speaker 1: important is this one? And really, Jacksonville, their story is amazing.

890
00:42:00,506 --> 00:42:03,306
Speaker 1: The craziest thing about Jacksonville right now is they're sitting

891
00:42:03,346 --> 00:42:07,546
Speaker 1: at six and eight and they control essentially they control

892
00:42:07,666 --> 00:42:10,346
Speaker 1: the a f C South. If the Jags go three

893
00:42:10,346 --> 00:42:12,426
Speaker 1: and oh, that's going to include a win the last

894
00:42:12,466 --> 00:42:17,546
Speaker 1: week of the year against Tennessee. And they so right

895
00:42:17,706 --> 00:42:20,266
Speaker 1: and and I mean Tennessee also at seven and seven,

896
00:42:20,306 --> 00:42:22,706
Speaker 1: controls the division. If they went out, that would include

897
00:42:22,706 --> 00:42:24,986
Speaker 1: a win over the Jags. Jacks couldn't catch them, but

898
00:42:25,026 --> 00:42:28,226
Speaker 1: I mean Jacksonville. It's huge for Jacksonville because I think

899
00:42:28,306 --> 00:42:31,626
Speaker 1: essentially they need to get into that last week within

900
00:42:31,786 --> 00:42:34,506
Speaker 1: one game of Tennessee. If they're within one game at

901
00:42:34,546 --> 00:42:37,706
Speaker 1: Tennessee going into that last week, then all they gotta

902
00:42:37,746 --> 00:42:40,386
Speaker 1: do is beat Tennessee. They tie him in the standings,

903
00:42:40,586 --> 00:42:42,386
Speaker 1: they have the head to head be two and oh,

904
00:42:42,466 --> 00:42:44,746
Speaker 1: head to head, they'd get the division. And yeah, Tennessee

905
00:42:44,826 --> 00:42:48,226
Speaker 1: is playing Houston this week, so you know, if Tennessee

906
00:42:48,226 --> 00:42:49,906
Speaker 1: wins that, and I look the way Tennessee has been

907
00:42:51,786 --> 00:42:54,066
Speaker 1: right been playing, that's no you know, we I think

908
00:42:54,186 --> 00:42:57,906
Speaker 1: our model has a seventent likelihood Tennessee wins the game.

909
00:42:58,626 --> 00:43:01,826
Speaker 1: Say Tennessee wins the game, huge opportunity for the Jags

910
00:43:01,866 --> 00:43:04,946
Speaker 1: here because you know, the underdogs against the Jets. But

911
00:43:04,986 --> 00:43:08,266
Speaker 1: if they win the game, then they Houston the next week,

912
00:43:08,626 --> 00:43:10,186
Speaker 1: you know, so they it would put them in a

913
00:43:10,266 --> 00:43:12,626
Speaker 1: situation where they could win this one where I think

914
00:43:12,666 --> 00:43:16,026
Speaker 1: it really makes it likely that that last I believe

915
00:43:16,066 --> 00:43:18,586
Speaker 1: in momentum, Like, the Titans have lost four straight and

916
00:43:18,626 --> 00:43:20,146
Speaker 1: I know the numbers might say, well, here are the

917
00:43:20,186 --> 00:43:22,706
Speaker 1: odds all that I don't know, Malik Willis might be going.

918
00:43:22,986 --> 00:43:25,146
Speaker 1: And they've lost four in a row and they've fired

919
00:43:25,146 --> 00:43:29,626
Speaker 1: their general manager and they've had issues all season long.

920
00:43:29,706 --> 00:43:31,586
Speaker 1: Like to me, that's that's the stuff that the numbers

921
00:43:31,586 --> 00:43:34,346
Speaker 1: maybe don't account for. And to me, it's like Jacksonville's

922
00:43:34,386 --> 00:43:36,946
Speaker 1: just rolling, you know, and Jackson's was rolling that the one.

923
00:43:37,146 --> 00:43:39,546
Speaker 1: The one thing I say though, is as think about

924
00:43:39,706 --> 00:43:42,946
Speaker 1: Sunday night, you know, Washington came in six one and one,

925
00:43:43,466 --> 00:43:45,746
Speaker 1: New York came in winless in the last four and

926
00:43:45,746 --> 00:43:47,506
Speaker 1: then the Giants going, I know, they got a little

927
00:43:47,666 --> 00:43:51,066
Speaker 1: help their potentially Washington's coming off by the arrested, and

928
00:43:51,106 --> 00:43:53,666
Speaker 1: they still couldn't find it. But yeah, and then for

929
00:43:53,666 --> 00:43:55,266
Speaker 1: the Jets to it's look, the Jets, I think we

930
00:43:55,306 --> 00:43:58,946
Speaker 1: haven't met about twenty because going into the weekend they

931
00:43:58,946 --> 00:44:02,546
Speaker 1: were in it. Yeah man, yeah, huge, huge missed opportunity

932
00:44:02,586 --> 00:44:05,546
Speaker 1: for the Jets, huge missed opportunity for the Pats. Pats

933
00:44:05,546 --> 00:44:07,906
Speaker 1: would have been over fifty well over to make the

934
00:44:07,906 --> 00:44:10,666
Speaker 1: playoffs if they hadn't blown that game. The one thing

935
00:44:10,746 --> 00:44:12,906
Speaker 1: the Jets have going for them, at least potentially, is

936
00:44:12,946 --> 00:44:15,666
Speaker 1: they get Miami last week of the year. So it

937
00:44:15,746 --> 00:44:18,266
Speaker 1: might not be playing for anything, yeah, or it could be.

938
00:44:18,386 --> 00:44:20,386
Speaker 1: It could potentially be a playoff spot on the line.

939
00:44:20,626 --> 00:44:22,746
Speaker 1: You know, if the Jets can be so I sar Jets,

940
00:44:22,746 --> 00:44:25,226
Speaker 1: you know, if they can win this one there. I

941
00:44:25,226 --> 00:44:27,026
Speaker 1: think they're trying to put themselves in the position there

942
00:44:27,026 --> 00:44:29,786
Speaker 1: where that Miami game matters last week and there's a

943
00:44:29,866 --> 00:44:31,546
Speaker 1: chance to potentially they need some help, but it's a

944
00:44:31,626 --> 00:44:34,226
Speaker 1: chance to potentially leap frog Miami and get in. Okay,

945
00:44:34,226 --> 00:44:36,906
Speaker 1: So these are the realistic options. But some of my

946
00:44:36,986 --> 00:44:40,306
Speaker 1: favorite stuff is when you get the well, if this

947
00:44:40,466 --> 00:44:43,106
Speaker 1: happens and that happens, and you get the Russell Crow

948
00:44:43,186 --> 00:44:45,546
Speaker 1: beautiful mind graphic up and then you got the guy

949
00:44:45,586 --> 00:44:47,986
Speaker 1: from always Sunny in Philadelphia connecting all the dots, then

950
00:44:47,986 --> 00:44:51,746
Speaker 1: you've got the true detective image, and it's this long

951
00:44:51,786 --> 00:44:54,346
Speaker 1: shot can make it. To give us your greatest long

952
00:44:54,426 --> 00:44:57,426
Speaker 1: shot scenario for a team that no one expects to

953
00:44:57,426 --> 00:45:00,226
Speaker 1: actually make it that still could here it is the

954
00:45:00,386 --> 00:45:04,786
Speaker 1: most remote playoff possibility. The odds of this happening are

955
00:45:04,946 --> 00:45:08,666
Speaker 1: zero point to percent. Okay, so this is this is

956
00:45:08,746 --> 00:45:12,226
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. They are not out of it yet.

957
00:45:12,266 --> 00:45:14,626
Speaker 1: They are out of the wilder. It's not. The wild

958
00:45:14,666 --> 00:45:16,706
Speaker 1: card is out of the question for them, but the

959
00:45:16,746 --> 00:45:18,586
Speaker 1: a f C South isn't. And here's what the Colts

960
00:45:18,586 --> 00:45:21,946
Speaker 1: would need to have happened to win the FFC South

961
00:45:21,986 --> 00:45:24,666
Speaker 1: and get in. They would need to win out obviously,

962
00:45:24,946 --> 00:45:27,586
Speaker 1: and that would put them at seven nine and one.

963
00:45:27,826 --> 00:45:30,826
Speaker 1: Then they would need Tennessee to lose all three of

964
00:45:30,866 --> 00:45:35,106
Speaker 1: their remaining games, that's Houston, Dallas, Jacksonville. If that happens,

965
00:45:35,306 --> 00:45:38,546
Speaker 1: Tennessee is seven and ten, Indianapolis is ahead of them.

966
00:45:38,586 --> 00:45:41,706
Speaker 1: Then they would also need Jacksonville to lose to both

967
00:45:41,746 --> 00:45:46,906
Speaker 1: the Jets and to Houston and then Tennessee the last week,

968
00:45:46,986 --> 00:45:49,426
Speaker 1: and the Jags would land at seven and ten and

969
00:45:49,466 --> 00:45:53,106
Speaker 1: then at seven nine and one the court. So they

970
00:45:53,186 --> 00:45:56,146
Speaker 1: just gave up the biggest head in NFL history. This

971
00:45:56,186 --> 00:45:59,586
Speaker 1: would be the biggest playoff come back history to get in.

972
00:45:59,746 --> 00:46:02,626
Speaker 1: That's amazing. They have the biggest playoff, they have the

973
00:46:02,626 --> 00:46:05,586
Speaker 1: biggest regular season collapse, and the greatest playoff come back.

974
00:46:05,626 --> 00:46:07,266
Speaker 1: That would be a fantastic sticking. All right, let me

975
00:46:07,306 --> 00:46:10,106
Speaker 1: wrap this with just a couple of rapid fire questions.

976
00:46:10,226 --> 00:46:13,226
Speaker 1: You have this incredible journalism career. I always start off

977
00:46:13,266 --> 00:46:16,186
Speaker 1: with advice. What would be your one piece of advice

978
00:46:16,186 --> 00:46:18,466
Speaker 1: that I gets an elevator, Gal gets an elevator and

979
00:46:18,506 --> 00:46:20,866
Speaker 1: looks at you and says, Wow, you're doing what I've

980
00:46:20,866 --> 00:46:22,706
Speaker 1: always wanted to do. What would be your advice to

981
00:46:22,746 --> 00:46:25,466
Speaker 1: a young journalist trying to break into either politics or

982
00:46:25,466 --> 00:46:27,386
Speaker 1: even sports media at this point? Yeah, I think, if

983
00:46:27,706 --> 00:46:29,666
Speaker 1: it's early in your career or whatever, just don't be

984
00:46:29,706 --> 00:46:31,666
Speaker 1: afraid to to take a chance and don't be afraid

985
00:46:31,706 --> 00:46:34,186
Speaker 1: to kind of go off the beaten established path. Because

986
00:46:34,186 --> 00:46:36,266
Speaker 1: I was telling you the start of this, the experience

987
00:46:36,306 --> 00:46:38,146
Speaker 1: I had in Jersey was just such a great one

988
00:46:38,186 --> 00:46:40,106
Speaker 1: for so many different reasons for me. And it wasn't

989
00:46:40,346 --> 00:46:42,906
Speaker 1: you know if I was grad when I was graduating college,

990
00:46:42,906 --> 00:46:44,946
Speaker 1: you know, if I wanted to start in political journalism,

991
00:46:45,066 --> 00:46:46,626
Speaker 1: or I mean that the move would have been go

992
00:46:46,746 --> 00:46:48,506
Speaker 1: down to d C. There's a you know, a million

993
00:46:48,546 --> 00:46:50,946
Speaker 1: ways to try to get in down there. And I

994
00:46:51,026 --> 00:46:54,946
Speaker 1: found kind of a unique job covering state politics in

995
00:46:55,026 --> 00:46:57,866
Speaker 1: New Jersey and I learned a lot about journalism. I

996
00:46:57,906 --> 00:47:00,026
Speaker 1: learned a lot about politics. It's a cliche. I learned

997
00:47:00,066 --> 00:47:02,026
Speaker 1: a lot about life. Like I said, I just had

998
00:47:02,066 --> 00:47:05,026
Speaker 1: so many great experiences there. UM learned to just I

999
00:47:05,066 --> 00:47:06,586
Speaker 1: love the state, I love the people, and that I

1000
00:47:06,626 --> 00:47:08,466
Speaker 1: love the culture, and it's just a it's a huge,

1001
00:47:08,546 --> 00:47:10,146
Speaker 1: huge part of my life. I still talk about it

1002
00:47:10,226 --> 00:47:12,066
Speaker 1: a lot and get me going on Jersey. I'll go

1003
00:47:12,146 --> 00:47:14,546
Speaker 1: all day so um, and you know, it all ended

1004
00:47:14,586 --> 00:47:16,786
Speaker 1: up working out two from a career perspective, So you know,

1005
00:47:16,866 --> 00:47:18,306
Speaker 1: don't be afraid, I think to kind of take a

1006
00:47:18,386 --> 00:47:20,626
Speaker 1: chance and go off the beaten path, because that's where

1007
00:47:20,626 --> 00:47:22,146
Speaker 1: some of the some of the fun in life might be.

1008
00:47:22,306 --> 00:47:24,306
Speaker 1: I love that. I always talk on this podcast about

1009
00:47:24,306 --> 00:47:27,826
Speaker 1: the broadcasters I grew up looking to at someday emulate,

1010
00:47:27,906 --> 00:47:31,186
Speaker 1: but also the sports writers and how important Peter King

1011
00:47:31,346 --> 00:47:34,146
Speaker 1: or a Bill Simmons or Gary Smith was to me.

1012
00:47:34,466 --> 00:47:37,186
Speaker 1: Who was the political writer or pundit on television that

1013
00:47:37,226 --> 00:47:39,186
Speaker 1: when you were in high school, college and right out

1014
00:47:39,226 --> 00:47:41,586
Speaker 1: of school you were looking to and saying, Okay, that's

1015
00:47:41,586 --> 00:47:44,306
Speaker 1: someone that I really aspire to someday even emult Yeah,

1016
00:47:44,346 --> 00:47:46,746
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, it was election nights. I mean a

1017
00:47:46,866 --> 00:47:49,466
Speaker 1: huge memorable election night for me and for you know,

1018
00:47:49,586 --> 00:47:51,866
Speaker 1: tens of millions of people was the two thousand election.

1019
00:47:52,466 --> 00:47:54,386
Speaker 1: And you know, I really think that's one that kind

1020
00:47:54,386 --> 00:47:56,546
Speaker 1: of was a pivot point where you know, we had

1021
00:47:56,546 --> 00:47:59,026
Speaker 1: a lot of blowout elections before two thousand, were a

1022
00:47:59,106 --> 00:48:01,146
Speaker 1: job like mine wouldn't have made much sense because by

1023
00:48:01,146 --> 00:48:03,066
Speaker 1: eight oh five pm we'd know who to winn oorl.

1024
00:48:03,226 --> 00:48:05,466
Speaker 1: But we we live in an air now of close

1025
00:48:05,506 --> 00:48:07,786
Speaker 1: elections and election that go on sometimes for days, and

1026
00:48:07,786 --> 00:48:09,666
Speaker 1: that was really kind of the first one. And the

1027
00:48:09,706 --> 00:48:13,066
Speaker 1: guy I I just I watched, you know, all night

1028
00:48:13,106 --> 00:48:15,306
Speaker 1: and for for the next forty days was Tim Russer.

1029
00:48:15,866 --> 00:48:18,866
Speaker 1: And I just think Tim Russer had a great ability

1030
00:48:18,906 --> 00:48:22,066
Speaker 1: to communicate what was going He had a lot less technology.

1031
00:48:22,106 --> 00:48:24,586
Speaker 1: I mean the famous thing with Tim Russer and election, Yeah,

1032
00:48:24,666 --> 00:48:26,946
Speaker 1: the grease board because at the Smithsonian or it's at

1033
00:48:26,946 --> 00:48:29,586
Speaker 1: one of those big museums. Um, but just taking you

1034
00:48:29,706 --> 00:48:32,386
Speaker 1: through what was going on, what the paths were. I

1035
00:48:32,386 --> 00:48:34,386
Speaker 1: think he had a great way of communicating. I think

1036
00:48:34,386 --> 00:48:36,186
Speaker 1: he had a great kind of way about himself on

1037
00:48:36,226 --> 00:48:38,386
Speaker 1: the air. I think he's somebody people just you know,

1038
00:48:38,586 --> 00:48:40,306
Speaker 1: I know this is working at NBC. I know this

1039
00:48:40,386 --> 00:48:42,866
Speaker 1: is true. Off the air. I've met so many people.

1040
00:48:42,866 --> 00:48:44,546
Speaker 1: I didn't know him personally, but I've met so many

1041
00:48:44,546 --> 00:48:46,266
Speaker 1: people who did, and they just they talked about what

1042
00:48:46,266 --> 00:48:48,106
Speaker 1: a great person he was off the air. But I

1043
00:48:48,106 --> 00:48:50,186
Speaker 1: think that came through on the air, you know, And

1044
00:48:50,346 --> 00:48:53,106
Speaker 1: and I think it's just you know, um, the audience

1045
00:48:53,186 --> 00:48:54,946
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of spend time with him, and I

1046
00:48:54,986 --> 00:48:56,506
Speaker 1: know I kind of felt that way as a viewer,

1047
00:48:56,586 --> 00:48:58,986
Speaker 1: So I think it was Russer definitely. It's special and

1048
00:48:59,026 --> 00:49:02,306
Speaker 1: I'll never forget, you know, when we learned that his passing,

1049
00:49:02,346 --> 00:49:04,586
Speaker 1: like the response that me just as a viewer had

1050
00:49:04,706 --> 00:49:07,746
Speaker 1: just completely just like I cannonball to the gut like

1051
00:49:08,026 --> 00:49:10,986
Speaker 1: that that's a huge loss. And you know, he felt

1052
00:49:11,026 --> 00:49:12,746
Speaker 1: like a guy you'd have a beer with, because I

1053
00:49:12,746 --> 00:49:15,426
Speaker 1: think authentically he was a guy you'd have a beer with.

1054
00:49:15,466 --> 00:49:17,106
Speaker 1: He was a Buffalo Bills fan and like that was

1055
00:49:17,146 --> 00:49:19,546
Speaker 1: just who and like that's really endearing. I think you

1056
00:49:19,546 --> 00:49:21,586
Speaker 1: have a lot of those same qualities where you see

1057
00:49:21,626 --> 00:49:24,586
Speaker 1: you on television, and this is you know, I think

1058
00:49:24,626 --> 00:49:26,986
Speaker 1: the greatest compliment to a broadcaster to another one is

1059
00:49:27,226 --> 00:49:29,786
Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like you're authentically yourself and you

1060
00:49:29,826 --> 00:49:31,626
Speaker 1: are who you are, and I love that you lean

1061
00:49:31,666 --> 00:49:34,866
Speaker 1: into that and you get as excited and as fired

1062
00:49:34,906 --> 00:49:36,986
Speaker 1: up by the election results as you do about the

1063
00:49:37,106 --> 00:49:39,026
Speaker 1: NFL playoffs scenarios. And I think it's a viewer we

1064
00:49:39,026 --> 00:49:41,906
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. No, thanks, it is. I hope that

1065
00:49:41,946 --> 00:49:43,666
Speaker 1: comes through because I'm a fan. You know. It's like

1066
00:49:43,706 --> 00:49:45,746
Speaker 1: I I do. I care about the election results. I

1067
00:49:45,826 --> 00:49:47,946
Speaker 1: care about you know, getting it right. I care about

1068
00:49:47,986 --> 00:49:49,786
Speaker 1: the NFL playoff Chase, Like you know, I'm a I'm

1069
00:49:49,826 --> 00:49:51,906
Speaker 1: a fan myself. Like I said, I'm a Yeah, I

1070
00:49:51,946 --> 00:49:53,906
Speaker 1: grew up a Patch fan. I try to keep that

1071
00:49:53,986 --> 00:49:56,666
Speaker 1: quiet around New York, but you know, I I got

1072
00:49:56,706 --> 00:49:58,466
Speaker 1: an interest in this too, So I hope that comes

1073
00:49:58,466 --> 00:50:00,986
Speaker 1: through all right. And the last two are a little sillier,

1074
00:50:01,026 --> 00:50:04,666
Speaker 1: but I think you'll enjoy our early episode here, one

1075
00:50:04,706 --> 00:50:08,906
Speaker 1: of the one of the most um i'd say recognizable,

1076
00:50:08,946 --> 00:50:12,226
Speaker 1: but also daily viewers and passionate yours to my morning

1077
00:50:12,226 --> 00:50:15,066
Speaker 1: show NFL network, Good Morning Football is the actor Paul Rudd,

1078
00:50:15,426 --> 00:50:17,706
Speaker 1: and Paul Rudd is a huge Chiefs fan and he

1079
00:50:17,746 --> 00:50:20,346
Speaker 1: will text me throughout Good Morning Football. Why are you

1080
00:50:20,386 --> 00:50:22,226
Speaker 1: not talking about my homes right now? Why are you busy?

1081
00:50:22,226 --> 00:50:24,426
Speaker 1: With Josh Allen? And he loves the show. We had

1082
00:50:24,506 --> 00:50:27,146
Speaker 1: him on our podcast and he talked about when he

1083
00:50:27,146 --> 00:50:30,066
Speaker 1: got the news that he was voted as People's sexiest

1084
00:50:30,146 --> 00:50:34,706
Speaker 1: man um he wasn't alone in one. I believe Steve

1085
00:50:34,746 --> 00:50:38,306
Speaker 1: Cornaki was voted as one of People's sexiest men alive.

1086
00:50:38,586 --> 00:50:40,426
Speaker 1: Where were you when you got that news? What was

1087
00:50:40,466 --> 00:50:43,026
Speaker 1: your reaction and how do you how do you handle

1088
00:50:43,066 --> 00:50:44,586
Speaker 1: such news like that? I feel like my ego would

1089
00:50:44,586 --> 00:50:47,346
Speaker 1: be out of control. I tell people that's where the

1090
00:50:47,346 --> 00:50:52,666
Speaker 1: real voter fraud was in. I have no idea where that.

1091
00:50:53,746 --> 00:50:55,986
Speaker 1: All I could say is that you know, our tastes

1092
00:50:56,026 --> 00:50:58,706
Speaker 1: are in are in decline in this culture. If something

1093
00:50:58,946 --> 00:51:01,346
Speaker 1: that is happening, was there a photo shoot, like did

1094
00:51:01,346 --> 00:51:03,186
Speaker 1: they show up and they're like all right, CORNACKI put

1095
00:51:03,226 --> 00:51:05,466
Speaker 1: on the Khakis No no, no, no no. I found

1096
00:51:05,466 --> 00:51:07,346
Speaker 1: out about it and it was I was, I was,

1097
00:51:07,906 --> 00:51:09,866
Speaker 1: I was on the list that was nowhere near to

1098
00:51:09,986 --> 00:51:12,026
Speaker 1: the top and and believe me, it's it's not been

1099
00:51:12,026 --> 00:51:15,706
Speaker 1: worth the grief I've gotten from my friends. Uh, and

1100
00:51:15,786 --> 00:51:17,826
Speaker 1: my last one is this we talked about meeting. I

1101
00:51:17,906 --> 00:51:20,946
Speaker 1: just you know, name dropped Paul Rudd. So casually, trust me,

1102
00:51:20,986 --> 00:51:24,466
Speaker 1: I do what every conversation I can. Um, who's the

1103
00:51:24,506 --> 00:51:27,346
Speaker 1: person that is someone that you never thought would ever

1104
00:51:27,386 --> 00:51:29,226
Speaker 1: be a viewer of yours or a fan of yours

1105
00:51:29,226 --> 00:51:31,266
Speaker 1: that has stopped you that you're like, it was pretty

1106
00:51:31,266 --> 00:51:35,186
Speaker 1: crazy that person X knows my work, loves my work,

1107
00:51:35,306 --> 00:51:37,866
Speaker 1: or even had the wherewith thought of saying, hey, I

1108
00:51:37,906 --> 00:51:41,786
Speaker 1: know who you are. That's a good question. Um, my

1109
00:51:41,866 --> 00:51:46,986
Speaker 1: all time favorite movie is Hoosiers. And uh, the director

1110
00:51:47,146 --> 00:51:50,106
Speaker 1: of Hoosiers turns out was a viewer and I, you know,

1111
00:51:50,106 --> 00:51:52,066
Speaker 1: I found out. I'm trying to remember exactly how it

1112
00:51:52,146 --> 00:51:55,746
Speaker 1: was that I found out, but UM got in touch

1113
00:51:56,066 --> 00:51:59,146
Speaker 1: with him because he, you know, knew my work. Did

1114
00:51:59,146 --> 00:52:02,106
Speaker 1: you go to Hickory High? Have you been? We im

1115
00:52:02,146 --> 00:52:05,666
Speaker 1: into the gym? Yeah, he lives, you know, he's they went,

1116
00:52:05,706 --> 00:52:09,626
Speaker 1: They're all I you eyes, It's well, that's that's where

1117
00:52:09,666 --> 00:52:11,826
Speaker 1: the game, the championship game was shot. Think the field us,

1118
00:52:11,826 --> 00:52:14,666
Speaker 1: which is Butler's. But there is a gym probably about

1119
00:52:14,666 --> 00:52:18,306
Speaker 1: an hour east of Indianapolis, and it's the gym that

1120
00:52:18,386 --> 00:52:21,426
Speaker 1: was Hickory High's home and they've converted into they play

1121
00:52:21,506 --> 00:52:24,306
Speaker 1: games there, but they also it's almost like a museum too.

1122
00:52:24,706 --> 00:52:27,666
Speaker 1: You know the movie Hoosiers to Indiana High School Basketball.

1123
00:52:28,106 --> 00:52:30,546
Speaker 1: So I've been there. I saw like an exhibition game there,

1124
00:52:30,626 --> 00:52:32,706
Speaker 1: which is a really cool experience. And I got to

1125
00:52:32,706 --> 00:52:36,706
Speaker 1: go to an Indiana University game with David Anspaul, the director,

1126
00:52:37,546 --> 00:52:40,946
Speaker 1: with the writer and you know, they they went to IOU.

1127
00:52:41,146 --> 00:52:43,786
Speaker 1: You know, they grew up in the culture of Indiana basketball.

1128
00:52:43,826 --> 00:52:45,706
Speaker 1: And I just heard so many great stories from them

1129
00:52:45,706 --> 00:52:48,306
Speaker 1: and it was a just a just a great I

1130
00:52:48,306 --> 00:52:50,506
Speaker 1: spent the whole weekend asking him a million questions about

1131
00:52:50,546 --> 00:52:52,866
Speaker 1: you know, the movie about Bobby Knight, about you know,

1132
00:52:52,906 --> 00:52:55,906
Speaker 1: it's a great, great experience, Jimmy child. Did they put

1133
00:52:55,946 --> 00:52:57,946
Speaker 1: their khaki pants on one leg at a time, just

1134
00:52:57,986 --> 00:53:01,386
Speaker 1: like you do? It's not bad, right, measure measured the

1135
00:53:01,466 --> 00:53:04,826
Speaker 1: rims that. Yeah, Um, I really appreciate you coming on.

1136
00:53:04,866 --> 00:53:06,746
Speaker 1: You will be on Sunday night, I imagine will be

1137
00:53:06,906 --> 00:53:09,586
Speaker 1: uh glued to the television set to see what the

1138
00:53:09,626 --> 00:53:13,346
Speaker 1: latest playoff breakdown is yeah, actually not this Sunday because

1139
00:53:13,346 --> 00:53:14,946
Speaker 1: we're it's Christmas night and there's only gonna be a

1140
00:53:14,986 --> 00:53:16,786
Speaker 1: couple of games the okay, so it's it's gonna be

1141
00:53:16,826 --> 00:53:18,866
Speaker 1: a kind of bare bones. But the last two weeks, well,

1142
00:53:18,986 --> 00:53:20,706
Speaker 1: New Year's Day will pick it up again, and then

1143
00:53:21,306 --> 00:53:23,626
Speaker 1: last week and all that fun chaos of the final

1144
00:53:23,666 --> 00:53:26,586
Speaker 1: Sunday of the year. As someone who is a complete

1145
00:53:26,586 --> 00:53:28,786
Speaker 1: mess on the touch screen every morning on our show

1146
00:53:28,786 --> 00:53:30,226
Speaker 1: where I don't know how to work this button and

1147
00:53:30,266 --> 00:53:32,506
Speaker 1: they're telling me to zoom in and I completely you know,

1148
00:53:32,746 --> 00:53:35,626
Speaker 1: just I'm faltering everywhere. I am amazed at your grace

1149
00:53:35,946 --> 00:53:39,306
Speaker 1: and your you know, dexterity on the board, but also

1150
00:53:39,386 --> 00:53:41,426
Speaker 1: the information. And it's Steve Cornaki. This is a thrill

1151
00:53:41,466 --> 00:53:42,906
Speaker 1: for me, and I think our viewers are going and

1152
00:53:42,906 --> 00:53:44,866
Speaker 1: listeners are gonna love it. Thanks so much for joining

1153
00:53:44,866 --> 00:53:47,026
Speaker 1: the season with Peter Schreeger. Hey, happy to do it.

1154
00:53:47,066 --> 00:53:50,066
Speaker 1: Good lucky the rest of the season. Awesome guys, Steve Cornaki.

1155
00:53:50,786 --> 00:53:55,346
Speaker 1: Football Night in America Sunday nights, you see them an amazing,

1156
00:53:55,386 --> 00:53:58,506
Speaker 1: amazing mind when it comes to data but also footballs

1157
00:53:58,506 --> 00:54:01,026
Speaker 1: and scenarios and and now in this case the playoffs

1158
00:54:01,026 --> 00:54:07,986
Speaker 1: scenario and awesome dude. Also thanks Steve. All Right, Steve

1159
00:54:08,026 --> 00:54:10,586
Speaker 1: Cornaki was awesome and in there he said, the Giants

1160
00:54:10,626 --> 00:54:14,066
Speaker 1: are in really good position to make the playoffs, so

1161
00:54:14,106 --> 00:54:16,266
Speaker 1: that they just have to take care of business with

1162
00:54:16,306 --> 00:54:19,506
Speaker 1: the Colts in two weeks or the Eagles team that

1163
00:54:19,626 --> 00:54:21,946
Speaker 1: is going to be benching their starters in the final week,

1164
00:54:22,026 --> 00:54:23,626
Speaker 1: and the Giants could be looking at a sixth seed,

1165
00:54:23,626 --> 00:54:26,626
Speaker 1: which would be wild considering how dark and dreary the

1166
00:54:26,706 --> 00:54:28,906
Speaker 1: last few years have been and how dark and dreary

1167
00:54:28,986 --> 00:54:31,386
Speaker 1: the start of December has been. I gotta tell you,

1168
00:54:31,466 --> 00:54:35,506
Speaker 1: I stayed up way too late Sunday wired, just like

1169
00:54:35,706 --> 00:54:41,186
Speaker 1: just like completely electrified by the Giants Commanders game A

1170
00:54:41,346 --> 00:54:43,626
Speaker 1: because of the calls, be because what it means to

1171
00:54:43,666 --> 00:54:46,106
Speaker 1: New York City and see, because of all the Giants

1172
00:54:46,106 --> 00:54:48,226
Speaker 1: fans that I have in my life, and I'm on

1173
00:54:48,266 --> 00:54:52,906
Speaker 1: Twitter and I see some great, great Giant fan content

1174
00:54:52,906 --> 00:54:54,786
Speaker 1: out there, and on a week to week basis, there

1175
00:54:54,786 --> 00:54:57,146
Speaker 1: may be no better stuff than what I see from

1176
00:54:57,146 --> 00:55:00,666
Speaker 1: my next guest. His name is Eli Rax, but Eli

1177
00:55:00,826 --> 00:55:04,666
Speaker 1: Rax also goes by Vibes because he is constantly positive

1178
00:55:04,746 --> 00:55:06,386
Speaker 1: and vibing with the Giants. He's not one of the

1179
00:55:06,426 --> 00:55:09,386
Speaker 1: he's what was me? Guys? And he was feeling himself

1180
00:55:09,466 --> 00:55:11,266
Speaker 1: on Sunday night on Twitter. I asked him on the

1181
00:55:11,266 --> 00:55:14,346
Speaker 1: show Eli Rax, what is up? Man? What was going on?

1182
00:55:14,466 --> 00:55:16,986
Speaker 1: Piece of blessing? Brother? Sure, thank you for having me on. Man,

1183
00:55:17,026 --> 00:55:19,066
Speaker 1: this is this is a great opportunity. Thank you so much.

1184
00:55:20,266 --> 00:55:22,986
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. You do your own content online.

1185
00:55:23,106 --> 00:55:26,226
Speaker 1: It's New York Provival. You guys do great stuff. But

1186
00:55:26,306 --> 00:55:28,026
Speaker 1: I gotta get right into it. What's it feel like

1187
00:55:28,066 --> 00:55:29,946
Speaker 1: to be a Giants fan after finally getting a big

1188
00:55:29,986 --> 00:55:32,306
Speaker 1: win first time in maybe a decade. Let me tell

1189
00:55:32,346 --> 00:55:33,946
Speaker 1: you this, man, and I just want to paint this

1190
00:55:33,986 --> 00:55:37,906
Speaker 1: picture first for the Giants community. I mean, all Giants

1191
00:55:37,946 --> 00:55:39,826
Speaker 1: fans know that day, right, It's like your first case.

1192
00:55:39,826 --> 00:55:42,506
Speaker 1: You can't forget it, right. That's the last time the

1193
00:55:42,546 --> 00:55:46,826
Speaker 1: Giants had made the playoffs. So winning this Sunday is

1194
00:55:46,866 --> 00:55:50,946
Speaker 1: exactly what we needed for this Giants community, for this city. Guys,

1195
00:55:51,026 --> 00:55:54,026
Speaker 1: we finally are making the playoffs at any eight percent

1196
00:55:54,106 --> 00:55:57,986
Speaker 1: chance to ninety of making an eight percent, So man,

1197
00:55:58,066 --> 00:56:00,266
Speaker 1: we'll take a right. I'll take those os to Vegas

1198
00:56:00,306 --> 00:56:03,026
Speaker 1: any given Sunday. But the Giants have a chance to

1199
00:56:03,226 --> 00:56:05,866
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Guys. This is it. This is what

1200
00:56:05,946 --> 00:56:08,986
Speaker 1: we waited four six long years. Guys. This should be

1201
00:56:09,106 --> 00:56:11,946
Speaker 1: in your man cave of shrine of coach day Ball

1202
00:56:12,226 --> 00:56:15,786
Speaker 1: and freaking Joe Shane that a New York city is

1203
00:56:15,866 --> 00:56:19,706
Speaker 1: buzzing Giants. We are here, we arrived. This is amazing, Shrikes.

1204
00:56:19,786 --> 00:56:23,506
Speaker 1: How do you feel? This is amazing? I feel great.

1205
00:56:23,586 --> 00:56:25,386
Speaker 1: And you know i've kind of I grew up a

1206
00:56:25,386 --> 00:56:27,226
Speaker 1: Giants fan, but I put that hat away and I

1207
00:56:27,346 --> 00:56:29,426
Speaker 1: you know I have I'm objective, I'm on NFL network,

1208
00:56:29,426 --> 00:56:31,466
Speaker 1: I'm on Fox, I'm on the sidelines doing all these things.

1209
00:56:31,986 --> 00:56:33,266
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you I got like a little

1210
00:56:33,266 --> 00:56:36,066
Speaker 1: grin in my face watching Cavon Thibodeau just just dominate

1211
00:56:36,146 --> 00:56:38,146
Speaker 1: that game. Giants haven't had a guy like this on

1212
00:56:38,266 --> 00:56:40,346
Speaker 1: defense since Oh I don't know. I mean you tell

1213
00:56:40,386 --> 00:56:42,506
Speaker 1: me Astray and o C and Tuck and those guys.

1214
00:56:42,546 --> 00:56:45,186
Speaker 1: I got. This guy was unbelievable on Sunday as a

1215
00:56:45,186 --> 00:56:48,306
Speaker 1: Giants fan, A what was your action when they drafted

1216
00:56:48,346 --> 00:56:51,266
Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeaux and then be Sunday night seeing him step

1217
00:56:51,346 --> 00:56:52,786
Speaker 1: up like he did. Listen, when I tell you I

1218
00:56:52,826 --> 00:56:54,986
Speaker 1: was a huge fan of Cavon Tibodeaux, you know, coming

1219
00:56:54,986 --> 00:56:57,026
Speaker 1: out the draft seeing him in college. They were saying

1220
00:56:57,026 --> 00:56:58,786
Speaker 1: he had a slow motor, but I didn't see that.

1221
00:56:58,826 --> 00:57:00,866
Speaker 1: When I broke down this film, I saw that the

1222
00:57:00,906 --> 00:57:02,986
Speaker 1: guy didn't really didn't give up on the place as

1223
00:57:03,026 --> 00:57:05,906
Speaker 1: some analysts thought. And just to see him come out

1224
00:57:06,146 --> 00:57:08,346
Speaker 1: and be that guy to have that high motor. You

1225
00:57:08,346 --> 00:57:09,986
Speaker 1: could tell he was looking at gas or some of

1226
00:57:09,986 --> 00:57:13,226
Speaker 1: this stuff, but he was still out there attacking that defense. Man.

1227
00:57:13,466 --> 00:57:15,826
Speaker 1: It was a huge coming out party for Cavon Timbo though.

1228
00:57:15,866 --> 00:57:18,706
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of that guy. Man. But he's exactly

1229
00:57:18,786 --> 00:57:22,226
Speaker 1: what I expected watching that film, that this guy is

1230
00:57:22,226 --> 00:57:25,226
Speaker 1: gonna be a monster. He's gonna continue to distructive league,

1231
00:57:25,226 --> 00:57:27,586
Speaker 1: and man, I'm just glad he's on the Giants man,

1232
00:57:27,626 --> 00:57:31,226
Speaker 1: for sure. What's your reaction to Commanders fans saying that

1233
00:57:31,266 --> 00:57:34,826
Speaker 1: the refs won that game, not the Giants. Listen, there's

1234
00:57:34,826 --> 00:57:36,706
Speaker 1: a lot of calls that didn't go to Giants way

1235
00:57:36,746 --> 00:57:39,466
Speaker 1: this season as well. Right, we didn't really cry about it,

1236
00:57:39,506 --> 00:57:41,866
Speaker 1: but just to see you guys on my timeline, even

1237
00:57:41,946 --> 00:57:45,226
Speaker 1: even Kevin Durant, man, really, come on, come on, Durant.

1238
00:57:45,866 --> 00:57:48,306
Speaker 1: You have a number one. You're in Brooklyn, Okay, so

1239
00:57:48,386 --> 00:57:50,386
Speaker 1: in your contract is not really getting there. But he's

1240
00:57:50,386 --> 00:57:52,826
Speaker 1: supposed to root for the Nel team regardless because you

1241
00:57:52,826 --> 00:57:55,746
Speaker 1: were in Brooklyn. So I don't want to see none

1242
00:57:55,786 --> 00:57:58,306
Speaker 1: of that in my timeline. Get over it. Go fight

1243
00:57:58,346 --> 00:58:01,066
Speaker 1: the Colts and I mean the Lions, et cetera for

1244
00:58:01,186 --> 00:58:03,746
Speaker 1: your spot. All right, this is it. We got our spot.

1245
00:58:03,906 --> 00:58:09,986
Speaker 1: Stop crying. Let's go for that. Yeah, all right, I

1246
00:58:10,026 --> 00:58:12,626
Speaker 1: love this. I just take us through like the Giant

1247
00:58:12,666 --> 00:58:14,746
Speaker 1: fan community over the last five years. I know this

1248
00:58:14,786 --> 00:58:16,826
Speaker 1: sounds like a weird question because everyone just assumes that

1249
00:58:16,906 --> 00:58:19,226
Speaker 1: like w f A N is where people go for

1250
00:58:19,266 --> 00:58:23,786
Speaker 1: their content or MSG or or even NFL Network or ESPN,

1251
00:58:23,826 --> 00:58:26,386
Speaker 1: But like there's such a I wouldn't say it's like

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Speaker 1: a sub world, but there is. Like, if you're a

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Speaker 1: diehard Giants fan, you know your stuff. You know, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know Big Blue what's it Big Blue Interactive. You've

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Speaker 1: got like the sites that really follow it day to

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Speaker 1: day and the Reddit threads and all that stuff. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of cool that you guys have all become almost

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Speaker 1: more influential and more go to than the TV networks

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Speaker 1: in the radio stations. You know, it's pretty awesome, man.

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Speaker 1: I mean for the last six years, I mean we

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Speaker 1: have over platforms since this Talking Giants entertain the Talking

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Speaker 1: Sports New York Revival as well, So you know what

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Speaker 1: we do was this. You know, it's just great man,

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Speaker 1: to have a pulse on the Giant community and to

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Speaker 1: actually get to this point of winning football is this

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Speaker 1: makes the content a whole lot easier to put out.

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Speaker 1: But to give the Giants to spin, you know, within

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Speaker 1: that six years, to say hey we will get there,

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Speaker 1: we will surpass and you know, stop losing eventually, and

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Speaker 1: to finally get to this point within the Giants community,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you it's awesome. But they used to.

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Speaker 1: There was there was some some people banging their heads

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Speaker 1: against the wall. There was some fight, and there was

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of Giants fans wearing paper

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Speaker 1: bags over their heads. So to get to this day,

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00:59:26,786 --> 00:59:30,586
Speaker 1: take that paper bag off, man. Enjoy these moments. Win, lose,

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Speaker 1: a draw, but right now we're winning. But enjoy this moment,

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Speaker 1: Giants fans. It's been a very very long time. Take

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Speaker 1: it all in and um, the fact that we have

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Speaker 1: a chance to fight to get to the Pinnacle like

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I mean, all it takes is one game, right,

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Speaker 1: so you gotta enjoy this moment. Man, this is awesome.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna wrap it here with you. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on. Why don't you let us know

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00:59:50,346 --> 00:59:52,266
Speaker 1: where we can find your stuff and who you do

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Speaker 1: the show with. And uh, if you're not a Giants

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Speaker 1: fan and you want to see complete New York caisteria

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00:59:57,106 --> 00:59:59,106
Speaker 1: when it comes to sports fans, this is where to go.

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Speaker 1: I love checking in with these guys every single week.

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Speaker 1: So guys, you can follow me at I am Eli

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Speaker 1: Rax on Twitter and i G. But guys, most important me,

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Speaker 1: I'm from the New York Revival gang with my guy

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Speaker 1: Mr Glass half Full and Mr l hef a Pilgrim.

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Speaker 1: If you don't know his videos about now, then I

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Speaker 1: don't know what you got tapped into. All right, this

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Speaker 1: is where the Giants is at. We bring that here, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So tapping man New York Revival at New York Revival

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Speaker 1: on Twitter and at New York Revival Underscore on i G.

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Speaker 1: Come check us out, man, I'm telling you you'll have

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Speaker 1: a great time for sure. For sure, New York Revival, Eli,

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Keep on with those good vibes. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining the podcast. I've had a good luck to

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Speaker 1: your giants. I appreciate you. Shk same here, Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. Piece of blessings. All right, there we go,

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Speaker 1: fun episode, Um Buffalo awesome Steve Karnaki, great Eli Rax

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Speaker 1: also known as vibes. You just feel just like optimism

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Speaker 1: around the giants for the first time since I've been

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Speaker 1: an adult, I think, And that's what feels like a

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Speaker 1: New York City right now. Life is good. The NFL

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Speaker 1: is in a great place. We've got an amazing weekend ahead,

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Speaker 1: Like Saturday is the big day I'm going to We're

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Speaker 1: doing our Fox NFL kickoff pregame show on Saturday, not

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Speaker 1: on Sunday because there's only a few games on Christmas.

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Speaker 1: They're mostly on Christmas Eve. But even the Christmas Day games,

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Speaker 1: which I was like, oh those games stink. I don't

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Speaker 1: care about Broncos Rams, Like I don't know Packers Dolphins

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Speaker 1: is a game like that's two teams fighting for their

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Speaker 1: playoff lives. I'll be watching it, um, but I do

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Speaker 1: wanna real quickly wish everybody a very very Christmas, have

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Speaker 1: a great holiday. If you celebrate Hanukah Kwanza, have an

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Speaker 1: awesome holiday season, and I beg of you. Please be safe.

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Speaker 1: So many silly things happened during this time of year.

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Speaker 1: Be smart with your drinking, be smart with the driving,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. UM, just appreciate everyone listening in Aaron

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Speaker 1: to you, my buddy, UM, have a great holiday season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: on behalf of Aaron, Jan Kaufman, on behalf of the

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Speaker 1: I Heart team, on behalf of our two guys in

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Speaker 1: studio here Mike and Jason just kicking ass. We're doing it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Jack Rudd, our music maestro with the amazing beats, and

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Speaker 1: on behalf of the NFL and the NFL Digital team.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to this podcast. CORNACKI well, guy,

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Speaker 1: I love them. Until next week. The Season with Peter Scheger,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to everybody. H The Season with Peter

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