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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two thirty five,

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Speaker 1: Episode one of Dirday. Like, yeah, it's a production of

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Speaker 1: two thirty five. Oh yeah, I think this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a good one. Two thirty four Summer calling it

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Speaker 1: the best, the best yet. But we need to see

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Speaker 1: what we have in store for you in season two

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Speaker 1: thirty five. Um, we didn't lose momentum at the end

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Speaker 1: of last week, even though we may have sounded dead

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Speaker 1: and the later trends episodes, we were in the lab

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Speaker 1: and we're back, all right, And you are sub tweeting

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Speaker 1: me with that because I was. I was definitely listless yourself.

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Speaker 1: You're like, this is the time of the week one

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Speaker 1: I can't bring myself to give a shit about And yeah,

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Speaker 1: the trends are fucking just bummers, And hey, the trends

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Speaker 1: is different. This this is a podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's consciousness. It is Monday, May second, Um,

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Speaker 1: so happy May to everyone. Of course, we can't, we can't,

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Speaker 1: we can we can't just gloss over what that day

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Speaker 1: is exactly. Uh huh oh it's World Tuna Day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, shout out sandwich lovers, may Tuna be

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Speaker 1: with you. Oh, yes, to be with you, I think

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Speaker 1: is where they got the idea for this being Tuna Day.

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Speaker 1: If I have my um my prequels correct. Anyways, my

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Speaker 1: name's Jack O'Brien, A K. Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host Mr

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Speaker 1: Miles grab Bad Massive with Jacob uh Bad Massive. It's easy.

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Speaker 1: That was me trying to be Eric Carrman um or

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Speaker 1: also just Eric but also Eric Carman, the singer. I

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Speaker 1: that is from Fraggle Rock Stan account at charm Offs

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Speaker 1: and s I V sorry they tell you to sing

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Speaker 1: it like Eric Cartman. No, but the artist is Eric Carman,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, let me do Eric Carman as

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Speaker 1: Eric Cartman. So I just took some I just just yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're that's poetic license, is what that is. Um. We

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Speaker 1: were informed Eric Carmen is uh g q P, which

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Speaker 1: has q leaning. UM. So good to know that's that's

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Speaker 1: Eric Carman. That's the same person who sings uh hungry

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Speaker 1: eyes right that we talked about last week. Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: Um all by myself laps. Anyways, um miles, we are

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined by the resident Fellow at Atlantic

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Speaker 1: Council's Digital Forensics Forensic Research Lab. Get ready for whole

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Speaker 1: to mania. Brother, it's the brilliant and talented Jared har

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Speaker 1: what's up. Welcome, Hey, thanks for having me. Hey man,

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Speaker 1: you know he did for having me. As he ripped

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Speaker 1: his shirt open, his yellow tank top open, um ripped

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Speaker 1: new man. I feel okay. So if people have been

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Speaker 1: listening for a minute, Jared has been on in the

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Speaker 1: early episodes, and we talked a lot about his work

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Speaker 1: when he was at right Wing Watch, bringing us the

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Speaker 1: tastiest bits of nonsense from that side of the spectrum.

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Speaker 1: But uh, you know, you're you're, you're you're evolving a

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Speaker 1: but you're doing some other things behind the scenes now,

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Speaker 1: doing more researchers. Yeah, yeah, I'm doing more research now.

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Speaker 1: It's uh a little bit quieter on the like public

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Speaker 1: facing front, but you know, still trying to you know,

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Speaker 1: push back against this stuff, but you know, right on

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Speaker 1: the loads, I guess you're not. You're not going to

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Speaker 1: see pack as much these days and getting screamed at,

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Speaker 1: uh well not since COVID because I don't want to

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Speaker 1: get like spittle in my face, right right, right, seriously,

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Speaker 1: I will be back there. Um, I kind of can't

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Speaker 1: help myself, but go to this stuff, right, I have

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Speaker 1: that like sick twistic what's it called mac mechanistic? Is

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Speaker 1: that the word machistic? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I've got I've

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Speaker 1: it's it's, it's it's really I'm always intrigued by, you know,

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Speaker 1: the people like you or um like Amanda Moore who

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll give you the spark notes and just

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Speaker 1: let me deal with these fear does and do you

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Speaker 1: stay like do you are you at a point now

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Speaker 1: it's going to be electing literal seals into Congress who

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Speaker 1: and call people pedophiles. You're so triggered, dude, You're so triggered.

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Speaker 1: You're like, what do I have to watch Benjamin Button?

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Speaker 1: Because I think that's maybe the second Benjamin Button reference

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Speaker 1: Raptors becoming smarter in Jurassic Park. Got it? Oh? Shoot,

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Speaker 1: which I have learned not to do because their fans

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Speaker 1: Great season to the Raptors and great season. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: hats off to them. Yeah, no, truly, they have some

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Speaker 1: amazing young talent. All right, well, Jared, we're going to

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Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better the moment. First,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things

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Speaker 1: we're talking about today. I'm not going to say that

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Speaker 1: But there there are just some things that I'm always like,

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Speaker 1: I wonder what Jared would would think about this, UM

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Speaker 1: so for instance, Madison Cawthorne's career path of late I'm

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Speaker 1: curious to hear your take on UM. It seems to

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Speaker 1: be the best confirmation we have that the uh like

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Speaker 1: Congress are are real and uh and they don't want

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about Satan back in a big way, talk

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Speaker 1: about things happening uh in in cycles. Satan so hot

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Speaker 1: once again. Satan is getting so hot again. Love shout

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Speaker 1: out to our dark lord. You know your I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about general, the general state of consequences for

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Speaker 1: what's Roger Stone up to? UM? And he's he's up

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Speaker 1: all that. Plenty more, But first year we do like

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Speaker 1: to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: got engaged all that stuff, so recent search history. What

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Speaker 1: you look cool and comfortable. Um, where are you leaning, Jared?

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Speaker 1: What do you lean in towards trousies? Genos? Uh? You know,

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Speaker 1: I I think I'm leaning towards trousers. I don't know, Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: was a crime to look nice and just leaving your

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Speaker 1: boys behind, man, a real choice. You're letting them know

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Speaker 1: What where are you getting married? Somewhere warm? Getting married

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Speaker 1: so just pray it doesn't rain, I guess, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah it should be nice man. I'm really looking forward

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Speaker 1: there for his birthday, all right, because it's not my

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Speaker 1: lack of planning. It's see what I did as a kid.

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Speaker 1: Give him one coupon for this gift that's about to

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Speaker 1: arrive in three I owe you. Yeah, most of my

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Speaker 1: kids belongs to are io U s. I've just you know,

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00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: give them. Um. All right, let's take a quick break

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Speaker 1: and we'll come back and talk. Madison Cawthorne and we're back,

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Speaker 1: And was it about a month ago that Madison Cawthorne

430
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Speaker 1: like mentioned that the thing about how you know you

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00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: get to you get to d C and all your

432
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: favorite politicians from growing up like invite you to sex

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00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: parties where people are doing key bumps and you really

434
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: have the wool pulled out from over your eye, like yeah,

435
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty wild and like saying confirming what I

436
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: think a lot of people suspect about the wealthy and

437
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: the powerful. Um. And then there was a a photo

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00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: let's just tell this picture this story and pictures. There's

439
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: a photo of him like going into a meeting with

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00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:36,479
Speaker 1: Republican leadership and emerging like after having done what appears

441
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: to be some pretty serious crying. Um. And then just

442
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: a bunch of these photos from his past of him

443
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: like you know, I don't know, like just homophobic like

444
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: things that you're homophobic bully would use to like taunt you. Basically,

445
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: he's got his hand on a guy's crotch. Yeah, that's

446
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: he wore lady clothing on a cruise ship doing some

447
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: fucking activity. It is like what the fuck? Yeah, but

448
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: I mean so this clearly like we can use logic

449
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: and you know what, just the way things are moving

450
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: around this story to all agree that like what he

451
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: originally said is absolutely true. There the Republican leadership is

452
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: absolutely having um wild presumably uh cooked up sex parties

453
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: and they don't want people to know to the and

454
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: then and now they're making impact. It's hard to know, right,

455
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: I mean, like Jared, I'm gonna ask you why you

456
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: think that's all happening? But he has had so many

457
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: things happened. Just he brought a loaded gun on a

458
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: fucking he's trying to get on a plane with a

459
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: loaded gun, and that happens. They were like the first

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00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: time insider insider possible insider trading where Tom till is

461
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: a federal Republican is also like oh this is bad now.

462
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: Now that feels like the sort of thing that you

463
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: just get away with as a Republican unless they don't

464
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: want you to, unless you break the Omerta about coke

465
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: at Orgies. Yeah, Dared, I mean like, I mean, how

466
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: do you see because clearly there's there's a lot of backlash,

467
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: but what what how do you like, what's the motive here?

468
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: Do you think? I mean it strikes me as retaliation.

469
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: It's either some Republican I don't know, donor one of

470
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: the politicians, leadership activist something someone got very mad at

471
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: Madison Cawthorne or it's like the most brilliant, like democratic

472
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: uh operative rat fucking campaign I've seen in a long time. Um,

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00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: and generally my takeaway is, uh that Madison Cawthorne is

474
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: being publish you know, punished for being a himbo and

475
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: for making Republicans sound cooler than they have, like saying

476
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: saying a niceria thing about Republicans than anybody said in decades, right,

477
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: cooked up sex parties. That sounds wild, dude, Like, right, Yeah,

478
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: It's just there's some counter some interesting reason that they're

479
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: such hateful, homophobic, racist monsters, and it's that, uh, they're

480
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: truly monsters behind closed doors who just doing drugs and

481
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: like hate themselves. They're like in the mirror being like

482
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: you fucking pig. Uh. And then that's that's what fuels

483
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: fuels all their just horrifying policy. Yeah. But I mean

484
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: as as much as I've enjoyed as much as anyone, right,

485
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: like looking at the photos and you know, making jokes

486
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, Mass and Cawthorne queer legend. Yeah,

487
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: Mass and Cawthorne looking great. Um, it's it's it's also

488
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: really gross because like that's whoever is retaliating against him.

489
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: That's the direction it went, Like the insider trading thing.

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00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: It seems to be like the most serious thing that

491
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: has has kind of been pushed back against your gun

492
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: twice on a plane, like like there's some serious stuff

493
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: and like I had my mind made up about medicine.

494
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: Cawthorne as soon as that, I think it was like

495
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: a Jezebel piece dropped about his trip to the Eagles Nest,

496
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: which is like Hitler's hideout and being like, damn, this

497
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: is sick. I was like, okay, cool, I know who

498
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: this guy is. Um, but that that's the direction it

499
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: went where it's like ah ha ha, look at this

500
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: this guy, this pretty boy or what I just it's

501
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: so gross. Yeah, it's like it's right, it's like who

502
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: is this meant? Because I part of me can see

503
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: that the dynamics of it that he's he's in a

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00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: primary race and if clearly the Republicans would prefer someone

505
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: else there, that is like that their line of attack

506
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: is do we just appeal to the basis homophobia and

507
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: like bring all this stuff out to be like, hey,

508
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: what do you guys sing of this guy? Because I'm

509
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: not sure for anyone who's not a Republican, you look

510
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: at Madison Cawthorne and you're already your mind has been

511
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: made up, you know, like it's you're like, no, no no, no,

512
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: this this person doesn't need to be in Congress, but

513
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: all of this added ship You're like, nah, it's it

514
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: feels like maneuvering maybe like on the right, just because

515
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: that's their perspective, is that like, oh, maybe he's you know,

516
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: like we can't trust him because he dresses in women's

517
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: clothes or something, even though that was clearly him on

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00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 1: a cruise. Like, there's really not much to any of it,

519
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: and you're to the homophobic attacks, it's like nothing but

520
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: like that seems to be the angle that they have

521
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: chosen too to attack from, and probably is the most

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00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: effective in his home uh state, in his home district,

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00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: right Yeah, And it's um, it's kind of like this

524
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: is what like Republican smear campaigns used to look like

525
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: all the time, where it's like instead of being like, oh,

526
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: this person is corrupt or this person doesn't have good credentials,

527
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: they'd be like this person is gay, and that like

528
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: that was enough to trigger a reaction from the base

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00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: that was strong enough that they could run with it. Um.

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00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: And it's like it's it's almost like like obviously that

531
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: stuff didn't ever like really go away. It just sort

532
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: of like obtuscated itself. But to see it back so

533
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 1: just kind of like raw in its raw form like this,

534
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: it's a little bit like staring into a time machine.

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00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: Granted the time machine doesn't go very far back, um,

536
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: but still it's um. Yeah, I don't know. I I

537
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: think it can be really tempting to think that like

538
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 1: America has moved on past that kind of thing, but

539
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty good proof that we're not

540
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: there yet. Yeah. Yeah, the nineties and odds did a

541
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: lot for us to be like, no, I think we're

542
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: I think we're past that, right, And then no, with

543
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: the how how aggressive all of the homophobia and like racism, transphobia,

544
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: et cetera. Is, now you're like, on, no, man, people

545
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: are just like it's just it's unfashionable to talk about

546
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: this then and now it feels it's just the air

547
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: of just saying just taking the ask fully off. Now. Yeah,

548
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: and and this might just be like nasty primary politics

549
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: in his state, right, this could be unrelated to his

550
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: cocaine and sex parties comments. We don't. I guess we

551
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: don't really know, and we won't know until we figure

552
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: out where this is coming from exactly. Yeah, but lack

553
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: of fundraising momentum. But I know, at least in my mind,

554
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, I heard his comment of Oh, they're having

555
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: sex parties and doing key bumps, and I was like,

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00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: m that sounds kind of true. And then the photo

557
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: came out and I was like, yeah, that's that's definitely true.

558
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: And then the second photo came out and I was like,

559
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: they all do it, don't they? H It's everyone? Um yeah, yeah,

560
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: telling me these sex parties are bipartisan. The the amount

561
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: of and the strength and like kind of consistency of

562
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: the attack is the thing that makes me think, well,

563
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: what what separates him from every other politician who's pissed

564
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: people off? And it's that he got specific about the

565
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: thing we all we all suspected was going on. Um,

566
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: so yeah, I don't know. That's why I did want

567
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: to kind of He does seem to be one extreme

568
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: right wing character who is seeing consequences for his actions,

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00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: and I think it's because he broke the rule of

570
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: talking about the sex parties. But I wanted to just

571
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: sort of take stock and get your thoughts on just

572
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: the general state of sequences for the extreme right, because

573
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, on the one hand, uh, we have Trump

574
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: and Marge Green facing serious inquiry into what they did

575
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: in the lead up to January six. Uh. You know,

576
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: Roger Stone is doing the equivalent of swabbing decks in

577
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: Alaska or whatever that threat was from top Gun. Alex

578
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: Jones is getting sued for everything he owns um And

579
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: at the same time, it feels like and yet, like

580
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: does any of this really change anything, like to you know,

581
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: with Trump still is probably going to get elected, like

582
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: uh if if he's allowed to have his Twitter back

583
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: and like Elon Musk uh gets to buy Twitter, and

584
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: that would make it very likely that Trump got elected.

585
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: And the online extremism is spreading into uh in really

586
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: scary ways. So I'm just like curious, like, is there

587
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: real consequence? Are we seeing them face real consequences? Yes?

588
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: So generally, um, you know, for talking like legal consequences

589
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: or something that is always a really slow process, Like

590
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: Alex Jones, for example, it looks like a lot of

591
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: these lawsuits against him for defamation from the parents of

592
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: Sandy Hook victims and some other folks. It seems like

593
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: a lot of them are starting to get towards the end,

594
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: uh you know, having some judgments against him. I know,

595
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: at least in one case, the only question is how

596
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: much money he owes. Uh so it and those cases

597
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: took forever. The legal process is slow. He did everything

598
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: to drag his feet through it, um so. I mean,

599
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: he'll have some financial consequences for it. But it's I

600
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: think sometimes we can like hyper focus on the individual

601
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: a bit too much and kind of miss the bigger picture,

602
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: which is that whether it is Trump, whether it is

603
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green, Alex Jones, they're all part of this

604
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: kind of broader social movement of sorts that's happening in

605
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: the US that is just this like weird, uh you know, exclusionary,

606
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: sinister type of thing. But because it does have the

607
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: diet the like makeup of a social movement, it ends

608
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: up being kind of fluid. So if Trump is out

609
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: of the spotlight, someone else rushes into it. If Alex

610
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: Jones gets kicked off social media. Here's ten more mini

611
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: Alex Jones is to you know, fill the feats um.

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00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: And also I think, you know, once you hit a

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00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: certain point of elite in society, it's like it's almost

614
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: like laws don't apply anymore, you know. And and that's

615
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's, if anything, like people facing the

616
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: harshest consequences are the people that like smashed through the

617
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: doors of the capital, just like the average Joe's that

618
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: don't have money to hire big gun lawyers and stuff.

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00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: Like some of those folks are going to jail. And

620
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean, probably rightfully so. But it's like that these

621
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: days seems to be the most like evident type of

622
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: consequence being faced by anybody. It's like the the roots

623
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: that got sucked into this bullshit and acted on it,

624
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: Like they're the ones who are paying, you know, a

625
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: more immediate price for this than anybody who filled their

626
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: brain with that bullshit to begin with. The laws applying

627
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: to these wealthy people feels like a more and more

628
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: like a fairy tale that The New York Times tells

629
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: its readers about, like well, Mueller is gonna get Trump

630
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: or like, you know, now Elon Musk is gonna lose

631
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: too much money on his Tesla stock and you know

632
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, now the Tesla stocks up, But like

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00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: it's it feels like we are in denial. And because

634
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: there are there is no functional way to actually rein

635
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 1: in this world where the hyper rich can get away

636
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: with just doing immense damage to to our society, then

637
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: like that we have to resort to wishful thinking. What's

638
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: a useful charade? Though? Two? To keep people from then

639
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 1: saying because if if the news said it started reporting

640
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: because you know, the laws don't apply to rich people, right,

641
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: that's what they report. The next thing is like, okay,

642
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: so what do we need to do, So do we

643
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: need to go outside of the legal system to get

644
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: our justice? You know, like that's like the thinking that

645
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: you have to do, like, well, if the justice system

646
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: doesn't work, then what is going to And I think

647
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: by kind of like gesturing to it, being like, well,

648
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: this is happening and on the horizon, it sort of

649
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: keeps that anger down for people who are trying to

650
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: see justice but are constantly looking at a system that

651
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: doesn't offer it to the people that are actually deserving

652
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: of it. And like to the point about even January

653
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: six like our we because I think we inherently, no,

654
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: we can't get the Trumps and the Eastman's of the

655
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: world that it's better to see fucking twenty proud boys

656
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: locked up, better to see fucking ten oathkeepers locked up,

657
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: because that is I think we're even for people who

658
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: are focused on this and like where we're the consequences,

659
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: we're even doing this ship too. It's like, well, at

660
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: least these fucking people who barely had anything to do

661
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: with it. Somebody's going to jail because the real, the

662
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: real justice is just completely unavailable. Yeah. Yeah, And I'm

663
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,959
Speaker 1: not shedding any tears for any Proud Boys behind bars

664
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: or anything that no, no, no, that's a group right,

665
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: but but yeah, well yeah, I get what you're saying, though.

666
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: It's it's uh wow, I mean it's the same fucking thing, right,

667
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: It's like the people at the top don't have to

668
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: play by the rules that everybody else, you know, catching

669
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: ship for now right, Yeah. Um Rogers stud just is

670
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: uh you know, he is consulting. I think has been

671
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: hired full time maybe by a like fringe um party

672
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: called the Ontario Party, which has never won anything. Last

673
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: the leader, I think just scored two point four percent

674
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: of the boat in the last election that he did. Um,

675
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: so he's basically just like doing birth He's like a

676
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 1: singer who's doing birthday parties at this point, just like yeah,

677
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take your money. Sure, Um, but it

678
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: is kind of there. There's something nice about it being

679
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: up up in Canada, and I think he was initially like, well,

680
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: the trucker convoy is a thing, so let me let

681
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: me get involved there. But um yeah, And I think

682
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: with Roger Stone that's like sometimes I mean, of course

683
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 1: there's like ways to get politically active, and that's usually

684
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: what I tell people, which is like they're more of

685
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: us than there are of them, and there's no reason

686
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: these people should like have the influence they do, so

687
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 1: we just need to go on and elbow them out

688
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: and tell them that they they suck or whatever. But uh,

689
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, for the for the person that's just like

690
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: kind of watching this play out on the stage, I

691
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: think like the Roger Stone situation is like a really

692
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: great outcome, which is just that he's like a laughing

693
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: stock even more than he was before and now he's

694
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: um yeah, I guess going up to Canada, right, out

695
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: of some ship to do here, I guess, yeah, exactly.

696
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: But I mean he's laughing stocked his way all the

697
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: way to being like one of the most influential like

698
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: figures in the last forty years of politics. Just I

699
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: think before repeatedly a laughing stock. But he's like, it's

700
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: useful to he didn't get he wasn't in the full

701
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: public consciousness until a couple of years ago. And now

702
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: when I think when people look at it, it's yeah,

703
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: things are I guess changing. For him to get into dance,

704
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's the dance moves. Have you ever

705
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: seen him dance? Oh? Yeah, I mean now now we're talking,

706
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: so before we start recording, I was talking about Miles.

707
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: I can't believe you haven't seen Ben Shapiro try to swim.

708
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: But now I'm discovering that I have Roger Stone try

709
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: to dance. It sounds like we're both we both need

710
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: to take this break, this upcoming break, to watch those

711
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: videos and we'll be right back with ever you want

712
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: to watch him dancing a wild Thing by Tone Loke

713
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: desperately and we're back. Uh and uh, you know we're

714
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: not gonna We're not gonna spend the rest of the

715
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: show talking about the two videos we just watched. H

716
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: Roger Stone very dick forward way of dancing. Yeah, he

717
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: is entering the dance floor dick first thrust crump in Yeah,

718
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: and then Ben Shapiro. It's um, you know his the

719
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: top part of his body looks like it has seen

720
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: somebody swim before, right, But that's the thing, He's only

721
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: seen swimming from the surface. Yeah, But the bottom half

722
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: of his body is just going like full Fred flint

723
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: Stone like, yeah, it's fighting the upper half of his

724
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: body the whole time. Anyway, it looks like one of

725
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: those like broken like those toys used to buy that

726
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: could like you could put in a pool and swims,

727
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: but like the legs stopped working. That's kind of like

728
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: how he looks swimming away. Anyways, Let's talk Satan, Yes, baby,

729
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: Satan come home daddy. Um. Yes, I mean again an

730
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: ever present in American panic culture. So it's really not

731
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: surprising when again my dark Lord's name is invoked to

732
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: create a frenzy. Um. But as we look at how

733
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: the far right, you know, it's not just fully embracing,

734
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, like it's all about evangelical Christian extremism, Satan

735
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: is now you know, it's just an even more a

736
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: potent way to rally people because now you can introduce

737
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: it not just to get Christian people involved, but now

738
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: because Republican politics is basically Christianity. You say this is Satan,

739
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: and I were like, what the funk? We're ready? Um. So,

740
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: first I want to touch on major ly Tainted Green,

741
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: who she kicked off a war with Catholics last week

742
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: because of her comments around their beliefs okay of helping

743
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: the less fortunate. So she she's on she went on

744
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: this like fringe Catholic like website to do an interview,

745
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: this like taped interview, which is like so extreme, Like

746
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: I think like the Archdiocese of like Detroit was like,

747
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: please don't use the word Catholic to even describe like

748
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: what you're doing. This is like so absurd. Um. But

749
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: this is a quote that you said when she's talking

750
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: about what's happening with the Catholic Church says, what it

751
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: is is it's Satan's controlling the church. What they're doing

752
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: by saying, oh, we have to love these people and

753
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 1: take care of these migrants and love another and we're

754
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: doing it, and we're doing is loving one another. Yeah,

755
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: we're supposed to love one another, but their definition of

756
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: what love one another means destroying our laws, it means

757
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: completely perverting what our constitution says, it means taking unreal

758
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: advantage of the American taxpayer, and it means pushing a

759
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: globalist policy on the American people. So that's what she's saying.

760
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: Um again, Catholics being controlled by Satan since they are

761
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: following the teachings of their savior. But I think really

762
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: an attempt to try to completely divorce Christians from any

763
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: morality that they have in order, as she's even saying,

764
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: to replace Bible with Constitution, but have that same level

765
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: of dedication to it because if because essentially the problem

766
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: she's framing is, yes, you're good, if you're being you're

767
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: a good you're a good Christian by following the lessons

768
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: of Christ and helping those less fortunate than you, until

769
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: it butts up against what our agenda is as Republicans.

770
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: And that's sort of like what this whole the whole

771
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: point of talking like this is to now say that

772
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: those who are, oh, look at you fucking people really

773
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: follow when Jesus's teaching a knocked that ship off because

774
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: that means you have empathy, and we can't have that

775
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: ship if we're gonna go fucking pedal to the metal

776
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: into fascism. Right. I want to hear the version of

777
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: this argument, but like with corporate welfare, it would never

778
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: come out of her mouth. Right. But it's it's it's

779
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: always about you know, you can't help little people in society,

780
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: but we definitely you know, you need to follow follow

781
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: God in the real way and uh, you know, get

782
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: some tax cuts or some bullshit. You know, the christ

783
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: Institution is what we're gonna probably call the constitution. I'm

784
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: not joking. Who knows, that's like probably what do we

785
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: like a couple of months away from seeing that buzzword

786
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: come out? It's yeah, And like this clever use of

787
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: satan is trying to frame of following being christ Like

788
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: is actually more kin to being satanic um. And I

789
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: think that's a very interesting way that they're trying to like,

790
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, because everything because people talk. I know, people

791
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: who are Christian who are worth the ship, you know

792
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: what I mean? Who are who are actually empathetic people

793
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: who are in service to their communities, like and they

794
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: would never They're they're not hateful people at all. They're

795
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: religious and they they they take that ship seriously. But

796
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: I think that's a big problem too when you see,

797
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: especially with like Christian Catholic right that by her saying this,

798
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: it showed all of the fractures that are happening. Like

799
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: first of all, then you have conservative Catholics who have

800
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: more of a disposition to acknowledge like the persecution Catholics

801
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: have face to be like, you know, what the funk

802
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: is this? Like this is like what are we doing here?

803
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: We're on the same peep, We're on the same page

804
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: on most shit, but like, don't start swinging the focus

805
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: over here because of whatever talking point you're trying to

806
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: make um and then which led her to basically say, well,

807
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna I was a Catholic, but all the

808
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 1: pedophiles and you know, granted that is a very real

809
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: debate and an actual an issue that is the Catholic

810
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: Church is having to have a reckoning with maybe not

811
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: to the extent that most people would like it to,

812
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: but she's able to use these just these real life

813
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: things very disingenuously to keep starting the pot and now

814
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: like it's caused all this in fighting. So well done,

815
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: major Yeah. And then Roger Stone, what was he up to? So, Jared,

816
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: you gotta tell me about have you heard of Elijah Streams?

817
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: This like streaming channel that Roger Stone went on, Elijah Streams. Yeah,

818
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: so this is I I caught it on Right Wing Watch. Um.

819
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: But Roger Stone, right, so he's he's he's back again

820
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: with some satanic panic shit. But this man goes on

821
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: some streaming channel called Elijah Streams. Uh, and he wanted

822
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: to talk about his latest discovery in the world of

823
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: Jesus science, because Roger Stone is a noted theological physicist. Uh.

824
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: He has come with evidence of a literal Satanic portal

825
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: that is opened above the White House. And he has

826
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: a fucking receipts. Yea, there you can say it. It's

827
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: very very clear. It doesn't move day night. It's harder

828
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: to see during the day, but you you see it.

829
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: It doesn't move because it's a photo. And I'm absolutely

830
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: convinced about the inherent there. It is again about the

831
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: inherent evil of what's going on in the White House.

832
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 1: What's going on, And I think it's imperative that people

833
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: know about this that people have good faith that Christians

834
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: know about this, and we begin a national essentially a

835
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: prayer assault to close the portal. We were born for

836
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: this moment. Okay, I just want to point out that

837
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: was very fantasy. That was a very serious conversation between

838
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: very serious people. And notably there's one like just like

839
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: nerd host guy, there's Roger Stone, and then down here

840
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: it looks like if ned Stark was trying to cosplay

841
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: as Chris Angel MindFreak is like the third panelist on

842
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: this great conversations. But I think, like you said, Jack,

843
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: you're not a photographer, and you said that a lens. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I also like this idea that there's a satanic portal

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Speaker 1: above the White House and the person to break that

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Speaker 1: news is Roger Stone, as if like nobody bothered to

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Speaker 1: look up and just go, oh, ship, what's that? Did

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Speaker 1: you hear that thing? You see that like glowing orb

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Speaker 1: right up there? Yeah, it's just coming out of most

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Speaker 1: visible uh, the most visible building in America? Yeah? Have

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Speaker 1: you noticed? It's like there's the sound of like children

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Speaker 1: screaming coming out of that is that you? Did you

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Speaker 1: notice that big gigantic fireball that opened up against one

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Speaker 1: of the most protected pieces of airspace on the planet.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys is there day and night? Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: glad we watched Elijah streams and now we know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like the one thing about it again as his dreams.

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Speaker 1: This is but even for Roger Stone man, this guy

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Speaker 1: went from you know, he's got his Nixon backchat and

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Speaker 1: now he's telling people that, you know, the picture I

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Speaker 1: took of the White House with like the camera that

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Speaker 1: I cleaned right after eating a personal pan pizza from

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Speaker 1: fucking Pizza Hut with my greasy hands. Uh, that is

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Speaker 1: my evidence of Satan coming. It's this reminds me at

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Speaker 1: Roger Stone like briefly went on the Q and On

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Speaker 1: circuit and he would go on Q and on podcast

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Speaker 1: and all the Q and On people would be like, so,

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Speaker 1: h Roger Stone, you're your friends with Trump? You think

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Speaker 1: ques real? And he just go, well, jeez, I sure

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Speaker 1: hope it is. And then they'd be like fuck yeah, baby,

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Speaker 1: and then just like, don't eat a bunch of money

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Speaker 1: to his legal bills. Feels like that he just has

873
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Speaker 1: to go somewhere and says he agrees with them, and

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Speaker 1: then the little donation floodgates open. He's like, welcome, welcome

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Speaker 1: to Elijah Streams. Roger Stone. Do you think there's a

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Speaker 1: satanic poor above d c Oh yeah, I actually have

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Speaker 1: a picture of it, right, yeah, yeah, here it is here.

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Speaker 1: See there's that. I agree. I I'm facing massive legal bills. Hey, Roger,

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Speaker 1: can you zoom in on that? No? No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it's actually impossible. Say it makes it impossible for those

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Speaker 1: zoom in on that right afterward, And this is part

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Speaker 1: of it's part of the Roger Stone agrees with you

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Speaker 1: for five thousand dollars tour. And if you want to

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Speaker 1: see the portal, you can get your new Patriot phone

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Speaker 1: the promo code Roger Stone. Thank you. Don't trust the iPhone. Um.

886
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Speaker 1: The religious extremism is one way that I think we

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Speaker 1: haven't yet seen social media fully go as dark as

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Speaker 1: it will go. Like I think, um, we're only starting

889
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: to see that we've seen in other countries where they're like,

890
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: you know, mass killings along religious lines. Um, but you know,

891
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: you see it in some places and it's like coursing

892
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: throughout all of this right wing madness. But I do

893
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Speaker 1: feel like things like this make me realize we might

894
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: have just scratched the surface. Of how bad this could get. Um, well, yeah,

895
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: they're and it's they're they're finding a way. They said, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's another group of people have energy and believe in

897
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: nonsense that we can get really really energized. And not

898
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Speaker 1: to say that if you're religiously a nonsense, but like

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Speaker 1: that these people have. They're willing to hear a lot

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Speaker 1: of weird stuff from evangelical preachers, like whether that's you know,

901
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: prosperity doctrine or some other nonsense like that, and then

902
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: meld that with your everything you're feeling about America becoming

903
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: more brown, is youll that your rights are actually beginning

904
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Speaker 1: to dwindle away. And the only way we can do

905
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: that is us, is the good Christians of America, you know,

906
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Speaker 1: defend this and charging it with all this language of

907
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: like constantly framing it as like you verse Satan, even

908
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Speaker 1: in these terrible versions where it's like the most obvious

909
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Speaker 1: just it's clearly bullshit, But they don't care because it

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Speaker 1: allows the conversation to center around what is happening in

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Speaker 1: d C is satanic? What is happening with whatever Joe

912
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Speaker 1: Biden or someone who's a Democrat wants is satanic and

913
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: it's really about reinforcing that association constantly, and on top

914
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Speaker 1: of that, like Marjorie Taylor Green and others doing it.

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Speaker 1: If you are you believe you're acting in a christ

916
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Speaker 1: like manner, but it's running counter to what the aims

917
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Speaker 1: of the party is, then it is in fact satanic. Yes,

918
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Speaker 1: well it's it's the same thing. It's why Republicans are

919
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: calling everybody pedophiles. Now it's you. It's I mean, it's

920
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: an old school like fascist propaganda tack to you make

921
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: your enemy un human, demonic, the most fucked up thing

922
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: you can make them, and then suddenly a whole lot

923
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: of things are on the table to defeat them. You

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00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: know that might not otherwise be if you acknowledge that

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Speaker 1: they're human beings. Yeah, um, all right, well, Jared, it's

926
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Speaker 1: been such a pleasure having you on Daily's. I guess

927
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Speaker 1: once again, where can people find you? Follow you all

928
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: that good stuff. You can follow me on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Jared L. Holt, check out d f R lab is

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Speaker 1: what it's called. Uh, We've got a lot of great

931
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Speaker 1: work for my colleagues and stuff. I feel like, at

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Speaker 1: least in the US. The Russia's invasion of Ukraine has

933
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Speaker 1: kind of like fallen out with a new cycle, but

934
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 1: there's still like all kinds of like misinformation and bullshit.

935
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: And a lot of my colleagues are are putting out

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Speaker 1: some great stuff, So check out d f R Lab

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Speaker 1: so that you don't accidentally fall for that stuff. Cool. Um,

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Speaker 1: And is there a tweet or some of the work

939
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: of social media you've been enjoying. Yeah, I've been really

940
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 1: fascinated by this Ryan Zinka Zinky tweet. I like right

941
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Speaker 1: Zink Ryan Zinky, former Secretary of the Interior. His bio

942
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: says this picture he posted, Oh what would this be

943
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: like earlier this week? Uh? Where he's The caption is

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Speaker 1: a hundred and forty dollars to fill the truck today

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Speaker 1: in pulsing vote and then there's an elephant emoji, so

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Speaker 1: vote Republican. But if you look at the picture, he

947
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Speaker 1: has filled his truck with almost thirty one gallons of

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Speaker 1: the Supreme plus grade X on gas, which just like uh.

949
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Speaker 1: In one of my buddies remarked, like, do you drive

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Speaker 1: a gold plated yacht to work, like, like, you know,

951
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Speaker 1: wearing you know, you know, dress clothes and every I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, I just I'm feeling the pain

953
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Speaker 1: at the pump as much as anybody else. Every time

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Speaker 1: I feel up my gas tank, I just sort of

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Speaker 1: exhale really deeply and have sort of a guttural moan

956
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 1: these days. But but I'm not really feeling so bad

957
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: for this guy, I gotta say. But it's just not

958
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: There's all kinds of posts like this, like Republicans posing

959
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: next to the gas pump is like, I don't know

960
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: what it is about my brain, but I just think

961
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: it's so funny. I feel like it wasn't I feel

962
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: when Zinki was there wasn't one of his controversies that

963
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: he was like using a ton of money to design

964
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Speaker 1: his office. Yeah? Yeah, feel like that was where they're like, bro,

965
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: you spent like two hundred thousand dollars on a table

966
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Speaker 1: when you were in office, Like, yeah, it didn't he

967
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Speaker 1: see Is he the guy that spent like a ship

968
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: ton of money on a soundproof booth? Yeah he did that.

969
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: He uh loved the mattresses from Trump Hotel and the

970
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Speaker 1: pillows know that's Prue it, that's thought pruit Oh really

971
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: yeah he's bad. And Scott Pruett is back. He's running

972
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Speaker 1: in hoping we don't fucking we forgot the summer of

973
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Speaker 1: scott When he's like, I have dry cleaning secret service.

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Speaker 1: Put on the fucking sirens zinky was wow, Man, I

975
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Speaker 1: don't I don't remember any of these motherfucker's from um yeah,

976
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: the Trump administration. It's it's I mean, they were all

977
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: fucking drifting. So it's just you know, choose your pick.

978
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: Was it the guy who loved the fucking like what

979
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: was it, uh, like the chocolates from some fucking place

980
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: that he demanded people get. Or the guy who wasted

981
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: money on a desk for his office who knows they're

982
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: all the same? Um and birds of a feather. Yeah,

983
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: this is also a good picture because he's, uh, he's

984
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: rocking the He's he's taking the approach to like being

985
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: one with the people by trading in his chinos and

986
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: trousers for really like um like blue jeans with a

987
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: big belt buckle. But his shirts still tucked in like

988
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: a business a business shirt tucked in. But hey, I

989
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: grew up in the South. This is like this is

990
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Speaker 1: formal where Yeah, but but I feel like this this

991
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Speaker 1: is photo these are his photo op jans. Yeah, definitely definitely,

992
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Speaker 1: where can people find you what the tweet You've been

993
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: enjoying unnecessary travel? That's right, he was taking jets and

994
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: helicopter rides and I'm just yeah, moving around, I'm tapping

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Speaker 1: into teens like guys mode or I'm like, what were

996
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Speaker 1: all the outrageous of this person? You can find me

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01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: at Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram. You know

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Speaker 1: about fiance, but do you know about Mad Boosties the

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Speaker 1: don't come check it out because we're celebrating the NBA.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I hear. I see your tweets. People like

1002
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Speaker 1: when you're talking about talking about the Mavericks, that's all.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about everything, Okay, just when we have one

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Speaker 1: show a week to do it in. But guess what

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Speaker 1: we're talking about all that? Um, let's see some tweets

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Speaker 1: that I like. First, one is from Stephanie Cook at

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Speaker 1: Hello Cookie tweeted, shout out to the woman last night

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Speaker 1: who asked me what I did and when I told

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Speaker 1: her I wrote graphic novels for children, looked appalled and

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Speaker 1: asked what kind of market there was for writing erotica

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Speaker 1: for kids? Uh. Then another one at Chris Striss tweeted,

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Speaker 1: my bitterly divorced grandparents who do not speak to each

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Speaker 1: other are now sharing the same nursing home and don't

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Speaker 1: know it yet. It's giving high jinks, it's giving sitcom,

1015
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Speaker 1: it's giving farce, it's giving laugh track. Um, and then

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Speaker 1: one last one at helped me Skeletor tweeted the quote

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Speaker 1: billionaires could end poverty. The response my brother in Christ,

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Speaker 1: what do you think causes poverty? There you go. Let's

1019
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: see some tweets I've been enjoying ing um Adam serious

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Speaker 1: brow tweeting tweeted a guy comes at me with a chainsaw,

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Speaker 1: but I hold up a block of ice and rotate

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Speaker 1: it until he's carved a cool sculpture. And another tweet

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Speaker 1: I've been enjoying uh Zarena car tweeted, I used to

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Speaker 1: draw the funk out of that sun in the corner

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Speaker 1: of the paper when I was a kid. Um, just

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Speaker 1: you have to draw so little of it. It's really

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Speaker 1: it's true circle. Um. You can find me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at daily Zeitgeist. Were at the Daily Zeitcheist on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page and a website Daily

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Speaker 1: zekeeist dot com, where we post our episodes and our

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Speaker 1: footnotes were we link off to the information that we

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Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode, as well as a song

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Speaker 1: we think people might enjoy? This is from a gym

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Speaker 1: Middle Eastern kind of like smooth jazz but like funky tracks.

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Speaker 1: It's just like I love music from like the seventies

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's it's got. Look, it's a perfect

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Speaker 1: way to start your week off, start off with something

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Speaker 1: you know you might not have otherwise listened to. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: great track from Hamid al sh Alright, well go check

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Speaker 1: this morning, but we're back this afternoon to tell you

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