1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: Good morning. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 3: stories we're following today. 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin with the fallout from the government shutdown. 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: The Trump administration is planning to use it to fire 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: federal workers this week. Bloomberg's Amy Morris is in Washington 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: with the latest. 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 4: White House Budget Director Russell Vote is planning to swiftly 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 4: dismiss federal workers, assigned that Republicans are leaning into hardball 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 4: tactics to pressure Democrats to cave to end the shutdown, 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 4: sources tell Bloomberg. Vote told House lawmakers some federal agencies 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 4: will start terminating workers this week. Vice President JD. Vance 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 4: at the White House. 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 5: If this thing drags on for another few days, or 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 5: god forbid, another few weeks, we are going to have 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 5: to lay people off. We're going to have to save 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 5: money in some places so the essential services don't get 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 5: turned off in other places. 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 4: Van says the administration isn't targeting agies based on politics. 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 4: In Washington, Amy Morris Bloomberg Radio. 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: All right, Amy, thank you. Meanwhile, the Trump administration has 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: also halted eighteen billion dollars in federal funding for infrastructure 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: projects in New York City. Budget Director Vote cited concerns 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: over diversity and equity policies, but President Trump had warned 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: he would use the shutdown to target quote Democrat Things. 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: Nathan that could include projects in the energy space. Vote 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: also said he will cancel eight billion dollars earmarked for 29 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 3: renewable energy projects in more than a dozen states that 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: voted for Kamala Harris in the twenty twenty four presidential election, 31 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 3: including hydrogen projects in California and the Pacific Northwest. 32 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: And with the government shutdown, Karen the Bureau of Labor 33 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: Statistics won't be releasing key economic data that the FED 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: keeps a close si on that includes tomorrow's September jobs report. 35 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: Chicago Fed President Austin Golesby, speaking to American public media, 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: says a lack of official government data makes it harder 37 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: for central bankers to interpret at the economy. 38 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 6: I consider the Bureau of Labor Statistics job data to 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 6: be the absolutely best data source on jobs and statistics 40 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 6: in the entire world. If we aren't going to have those, 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 6: it's problematic. 42 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 2: Chicago Fed President Austin goles We also reiterated concerns about 43 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: a recent pickup in services inflation. 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: Well, Nathan, the Supreme Court is refusing to allow President 45 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: Trump to immediately fire Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook. It 46 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: means Cook can remain in her position until at least January, 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: when judges are due to hear arguments in her case. 48 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Michael McKee says the delay marks a long postponent 49 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: by the court. 50 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 7: One reason maybe that they are taking up the case 51 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 7: of the FTC commissioner that the President is trying to fire, 52 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 7: whom the Court allowed to be fired. But they're going 53 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 7: to hear arguments in that case in December. And because 54 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 7: some of these previous cases have involved the Federal Reserve 55 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 7: and the Court has suggested their maybe some slack given 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 7: to the Fed that isn't given to these other agencies. 57 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 3: And Bloomer's Michael McKee no said the Supreme Court decision 58 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: means Cook will continue to vote on interest rate decisions. 59 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt says President Trump was 60 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: well within his legal authority to fire Cook. 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: Certain to Tech News Now, Karen open Ai has completed 62 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: a share sale that makes it the most valuable startup 63 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: in the world, surpassing Elon Musk's space X. Sources tell 64 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: Bloomberg that current and former employees of open Ai sold 65 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: roughly six point six billion dollars worth of shares to 66 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: a group of investors at a record five hundred billion 67 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: dollar valuation. Peter Elstrom is Bloomberg's executive editor for Global Tech. 68 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 8: That is a big accomplishment for a startup that has, 69 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 8: you know, still still is losing lots of money, still 70 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 8: has to prove that it has a business model behind this. 71 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 8: But it's a big step up, especially because the valuation 72 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 8: is going up to five hundred billion dollars from three 73 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 8: hundred billion dollars just earlier this year when Soft Bank 74 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 8: led around financing in the company. 75 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Peter Elstrom reports open Ai is locked in an 76 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: increasingly bitter fight for top AI engineers, and the share 77 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: sale is seen as one way to offer an incentive 78 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: for them who stay well. 79 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: To geopolitics now Nathan, President Trump says he will be 80 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: meeting with Chinese President she in a month and that 81 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 3: soybeans will be a major topic of discussion. Bloomberg Steven 82 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,119 Speaker 3: Engels says the President's using social media to accuse China 83 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: of hurting American soybean farmers. 84 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 9: Trump is becoming increasingly concerned by the unrest, if you will, 85 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 9: by US farmers, because keep in mind, you know, traditionally 86 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 9: in the past decade or so, anywhere between twenty eight 87 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 9: to upwards of sixty percent of US soybean crops, which 88 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 9: is underway, by the way, the harvest is underway right now, 89 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 9: go to China. 90 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: Bloomer Stephen Engle as that the President announced he plans 91 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: to use a small portion of tariff revenue to help farmers. 92 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: In the Middle East, Karen Arab and Muslim leaders are 93 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: pushing Kamas to accept the twenty point he's planned for Gaza, 94 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: the President Trump announced this week. One senior official told 95 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: Bloomberg it's important to focus on what he called wins 96 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: in the plan, including an end to the displacement of Gazans. 97 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: The source also says the aim of a full Israeli 98 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: withdrawal is a significant achievement. Katar's Foreign ministry says Hamas 99 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: is preparing its response to the plan. 100 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: We go to developments now in the war in Ukraine, Nathan. 101 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: Multiple reports say the US will provide Ukraine with intelligence 102 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: for a long range missile strikes on Russia's energy infrastructure, 103 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: and that the Trump administration is considering sending Kiev. 104 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 4: More powerful weapons. 105 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski spoke this morning about the request 106 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: for a long range Tomahawk missiles from the US. 107 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 10: We're thankful to President Trump. 108 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 4: This Dalak. 109 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 11: Last time we had very good meeting, very productive Dalak, 110 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 11: and we spoke about a long French missiles pass on. 111 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: His Ukraine's President Vladimir Zelanski was speaking in Copenhagen to 112 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 3: take part in the European Political Community Summit. 113 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: On Wall Street, Karen stocks climbed to a record on 114 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: the first day of fourth quarter trading. The Dow, SNP 115 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: and Nasdaq all hit record highs. As equities rally, so 116 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: does gold. Goldman Sachs strategists are saying this morning there's 117 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: room for bully and to rally even more. The firm 118 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: says interest from private investors presents large upside risk. Thereforecast 119 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: of forty three hundred dollars an ounce by the end 120 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six. This morning, Kobec's gold is trading 121 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: at thirty eight ninety nine thirty oh. 122 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 3: We have a note in big tech this morning as well. Nathan. 123 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: Apple pausing a planned overhaul of its Vision pro headset 124 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: to focus on developing smart glasses that can rival metas products. 125 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 3: It's working on at least two types of smart glasses, 126 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 3: including one that will pair with an iPhone and another 127 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 3: with a display that could challenge Meta's ray band display. 128 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: Apple's glasses will rely heavily on voice interaction and artificial intelligence. 129 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: The City Group is now the main home of President 130 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: Trump's money after years of getting shunned by major banks. 131 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: Bloomberg News has learned the relationship began after CEO Jane 132 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: Fraser congratulated the president on his second term win. The 133 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: President's wealth has surged in recent years, driving up potential 134 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: revenue for his bankers. Financial firms are previously unwilling to 135 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: take on the President's wealth after past failures to repay 136 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: loans tied to troubled business dealings. 137 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: Time now for look at some of the other stories 138 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: making news in New York and around the world, and 139 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: from that we're joined by Bloomberg's Monica Rix. 140 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 12: Monica, Good morning, Hey, Good morning, Karen. The United Nations 141 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 12: says it's now closely monitoring a global flotilla that was 142 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 12: intercepted by the Israeli Navy yesterday as it was sailing 143 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 12: to deliver some much needed aid to Palestinians in Gaza. You, 144 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 12: and spokesperson Stefan Jujarek. 145 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: We're obviously following the flotilla very closely. We just we 146 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: do not want anyone to get hurt, and we want 147 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: people's rights to be respected. 148 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 12: That flotilla included nearly fifty boats and five hundred activists, 149 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 12: including Greta Tumberg and Nelson Mandela's grandson. Meantime, Israel's Defense 150 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 12: minister has ordered all remaining Palestinians to leave Gaza City immediately, 151 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 12: saying anyone who stays will be considered a militant supporter 152 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 12: and face the full force of Israel's latest offensive. The 153 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 12: call coming as Hamas ways a potential peace deal from 154 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 12: President Trump to end the war and return remaining hostages. 155 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 12: Officials expect the death toll to keep rising in the 156 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 12: Philippines as rescuers there use backcoes and sniffer dogs to 157 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 12: sift through rubble of collapse buildings for survivors of a 158 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 12: powerful earthquake. At least seventy two people have died so far, 159 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 12: and destruction and rain is hampering rescue efforts. Two Delta 160 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 12: planes clipped each other overnight at New York's LaGuardia Airport. 161 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: You guys sit cliffs correct, Yeah, we did their. 162 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 12: Right wing CLI our notes that sound courtesy of Live 163 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 12: air Traffic Control dot Net. One of the planes had 164 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 12: just landed, the other was preparing for departure, and one 165 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 12: of the plane's wings hit the other's nose. One person 166 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 12: was hurt, a flight attendant who apparently suffered a knee injury. 167 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 12: TSA's warning your travel plans could be impacted by the 168 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 12: government shutdown with more delays and cancelations amid staffing shortages. 169 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 12: This traveler is worried about service in Ohio. 170 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 4: You can only ask people to do so much genuinely. 171 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 6: Even if a service is very important, people are only 172 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 6: going to do things out of the goodness of their heart. 173 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 12: For so long, passport processing remains mostly unaffected. And renowned 174 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 12: conservationists Jane Goodaald has died. She was known for her 175 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 12: groundbreaking chimpanzee field research and globe spanning environmental advocacy. She 176 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 12: was ninety one Global News twenty four hours a day 177 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 12: and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News. Now, I'm 178 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 12: Monica Rix and this is Bloomberg Karen Nathan. 179 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: All right, Monica, thank you, Thanks Monica. Time now for 180 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 3: our Bloomberg Sports update, and for that we bring in 181 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: John stash Hour. 182 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 11: Thanks Karen, to be going to day. In baseball, there 183 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 11: are three decisive game threes in the Wildcard playoffs, the 184 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 11: Tigers and Guardians in Cleveland, where the state alive, winning 185 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 11: six to one, Padres and Cubs at Wrigleyfield, San Diego 186 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 11: won Game two, three nothing, Red Sox and the Yankees 187 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 11: in New York. The Yanks state alive, winning four to three. 188 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 11: One series did end. The Dodgers beat the Reds eight 189 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 11: to four. The Dodgers will now play the Phillies. Brian 190 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 11: Snicker will not return as manager of the Atlanta Braves, 191 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 11: a job he had the past decade. He'll remain as 192 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 11: an advisor. That's your Bloomberg Sports update. 193 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: Stay with us. More from Bloomberg day Break coming up 194 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: after this. 195 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 196 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 197 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business opp This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 198 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. Now, more than twenty four 199 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: hours into the federal government's shut down, the White House 200 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: says the first layoffs could begin in the next one 201 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: to two days. It may be assigned the Republicans ready 202 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: to play hardball to get Democrats to cave, but Vice 203 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: President jd Vance says they'll have little choice if this 204 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: goes on much longer. 205 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 5: We are going to have to lay some people off 206 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 5: if the shutdown continues. 207 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 4: We don't like that, we. 208 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 5: Don't necessarily want to do it, but we're going to 209 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 5: do what we have to to keep the American people's 210 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 5: essential services continuing to run. 211 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: And that was Vice President jd Vance at the White House. 212 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: For more, we're joined by Bloomberg News editor Alexander Pearson. 213 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: Alex I mean they do have a choice technically, don't they. 214 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: I mean, in the past, there have been temporary furloughs 215 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: of federal workers, So what is the strategy here? Good morning, Good. 216 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 10: Morning, Nathan. Yeah, that's right. Previously, during government shutdowns like this, 217 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 10: federal workers would be furloughed, they wouldn't get any payment, 218 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 10: and then when the government reopened, they would basically all 219 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 10: be taken back and would get back pay, and what 220 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 10: the administration's doing here is sort of escalating the shutdown 221 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 10: fight by threatening to fire a lot of these non 222 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 10: essential workers. And that's been very much signal in the 223 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 10: last few days, and that's where they will head if 224 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 10: the Democrats don't crack and try to you know, don't 225 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 10: agree to pass they stop measure to reopen the government. 226 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 10: So it's definitely an escalation by the White House in 227 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 10: terms of this shutdown fight. 228 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: Well, they're saying that the layoffs are going to happen 229 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: in the next day or two. Are we seeing signs 230 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: in federal agencies that that is already starting to happen, 231 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: that those preparations are taking place. 232 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 10: So yeah, the Office of Management and Budget sent a 233 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 10: memo late last week asking for the agencies to draw 234 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 10: up plans for who you know would be fired under 235 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 10: this contingency. There's no indication yet that they've actually started 236 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 10: to implement any of those plans, and there's still not 237 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 10: been any reporting and certainly no announcement of which agencies 238 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 10: would be affected, what the scopes of the cuts would be. 239 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 10: At the moment, it's still very much the White House 240 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 10: signaling that they're going to go ahead without giving details 241 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 10: of what they actually plan to do. 242 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: And in the meantime, we've already seen the White House 243 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: Budget Director talk about cutting billions of dollars in New 244 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: York City infrastructure spending as well as green energy projects 245 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: and other states led by Democrats. Is this all part 246 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: of the pressure campaign as well? 247 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 10: That's certainly how it's being read, you know, in amongst 248 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 10: those journalists and also by the Democrats. It's interesting to 249 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 10: note that these sort of attacks on in terms of 250 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 10: suspending infrastructure funds in New York and also counseling hydrogen 251 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 10: projects on the West Coast, they're very much targeting, you know, 252 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 10: Democrat leading states, states that voted for Kamala Harris in 253 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 10: twenty twenty four, and so naturally the reaction by the 254 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 10: Democrats in those states has been to call it out 255 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 10: as political payback as a way of pressuring the Democrats 256 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 10: to fold in this shutdown fight. Although it's interesting to 257 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 10: note that the White House itself has not made that link. 258 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 10: They are claiming that, you know, that these funds are 259 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 10: not necessarily being used correctly and that they're probring you know, 260 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 10: whether there is compliance there, but it's certainly being read 261 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 10: as a way of putting Democrats under pressure. 262 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: So in our last thirty seconds, Alex, are we seeing 263 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: that any signs that that pressure is being ought to 264 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: bear on Democrats, that they could be wavering in their 265 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: determination to push these healthcare cuts. 266 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 10: Among leadership. No, they've at least publicly remained very steadfast 267 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 10: in the opposition to agree to any kind of deal 268 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 10: to reopen the government without that concession, without their demands 269 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 10: being met. But there are some moderate Democrats who in 270 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 10: the Senate who have been talking with moderate Republicans about 271 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 10: maybe some sort of deal that they could get through 272 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 10: to from the government for a very short amount of 273 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 10: time while they negotiate on Democrat demands. But it's not 274 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 10: really clear at this point of whether they're going to 275 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 10: get anywhere with that. 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