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Welcome to the Favorites the podcast 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: from the Volume Podcast Network. I am Chad Moment, Chief 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: Content Officer of the Action Network. Big Fantasy Conversation today 25 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: in a few minutes, Action Networks all everything. You see 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: him on our NBA show Heat Check. You follow him 27 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: for his NBA heaters. You know him from hosting our 28 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: fantasy show Fantasy Flex from our NFL show on the 29 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: Action Network with Stucky, also Fantasy Flex the podcast. That's 30 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: what I'm referring to. He has consistently been one of 31 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: the best player right ers on Fantasy Pros, the industry 32 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: standard for ranking the experts top five two years ago. 33 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: His name is Chris Raybon. He's gonna come on in 34 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: a second after I bring on my bff, my companion, 35 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: my capadre professional better. Nothing like talking a little NFL 36 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: some fantasy in late June, you know, just getting getting 37 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: fired up, buddy, like we literally every time we do 38 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: these little snippets were talking of thought. I mean, you're 39 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: both just like, ah God, I can't until September. So 40 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: This will hopefully hold over some of our die hards 41 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: who are just itching for some fantasy talk, because just 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: like them, I love fantasy football like everyone else. It's 43 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: a form of gambling. I'm in on it. If you 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: can find an edge and fantasy football you can make 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: good money doing it. I'm sure Chris has made some 46 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: nice dollars doing these best Ball torments and things like that. Well, listen, 47 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm not going to disagree with you. Like, there's definitely 48 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: something about talking NFL. It's almost like when you get 49 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: together with you the friends you've had for thirty years, 50 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: and like there's a a sort of, uh a second 51 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: hand nature to the conversation, like everyone knows each other's habits. 52 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: They're nods there, ticks and like can immediately jump in. 53 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: That's what I feel like when I talk about the NFL. 54 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: It just feels good, you know what I mean? It 55 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: just feels good, Raybon, Yo. Doesn't it make you feel good? 56 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: It does? You know. I'm still I'm still searching for 57 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: that friend I've had for thirty years. That it's probably 58 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: gonna take another another decade or so for me. But 59 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: point taking, point taking, don't give me your bullshit about 60 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, man, that I have been five, I 61 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: don't have any friends since I was five? Well I do. Damn, 62 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: that's on you. Then that's on you. I'm sorry because 63 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: some of my closest friends in the world are people 64 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 1: that I've been friends with since I was like five 65 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: years old. And the fact at you know, I'm so 66 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: much older than you and can now say in my 67 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: professional life, I have people I have been friends with 68 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: for almost thirty years. You'll get to that point soon. 69 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: I will. Maybe not that song, but I will. You 70 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: and I have already been friends for five years. I know. 71 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm just when I'm in my mid seventies, you can 72 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: be spoon feeding me a DP rankings. Uh, let's talk 73 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: about that today. Let's talk about average draft position, uh, raybon. 74 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: For anybody who's like a hardcore better and is suddenly 75 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: tangentially in fantasy, explain what a DP is. Average draft position. 76 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: That's essentially the market for fantasy football. So it's just 77 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: where on average each player is being drafted. Um. Usually 78 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: you talk about it, uh in terms of position. So 79 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: like Tom Brady, if he was the ninth quarterback off 80 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: the board, you'd call him QB nine, but you can 81 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: also talk about ADP in terms of their overall draft position. Um. 82 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: And then there's a bunch of different sources. Fantasy Pros 83 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,559 Speaker 1: has one where, um, they kind of aggregate a bunch 84 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: of different industry sites that people draft on for there. 85 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: So that's the one we'll be using today. But um, yeah, 86 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: that's an average draft position, just where players going on average. Alright, 87 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: so today you're gonna run through eighteen different players. I 88 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: think we're gonna have opinions on these, uh, which are 89 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: basically your top three players, um that are sort of 90 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: talkers in position, and then you're sort of bottom three 91 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: players for lack of a better term, in each position, 92 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: regardless of their current a DP. Well, no, no, it's 93 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: with it. It's it's it's not regardless of it's it's 94 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: relative to their ADP relatives. Like I'm out on Patrick Mahomes. 95 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: He's not a bottom three player in fantasy. I just 96 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: think he's on a little too high. So it's just 97 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: it's just overvalued guys and undervalued guys relative to UM, 98 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: they're very early. Uh you know, wait, June a DP, 99 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: that's basically what I said. Nah, you said, he said, 100 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: regardless of a DP that's a totally different thing. Donald, 101 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: I I alright, fine, maybe I said it anyways, overvalued, 102 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 1: undervalued based on a DP right, sound yeah, sounds really good. 103 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: I want to talk about quarterbacks first, do it? Go? Okay, damn. 104 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: My first one up is Tom Brady in terms of 105 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are undervalued. He's going is the QB nine 106 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 1: right now. And if you look at his two years 107 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay, he finishes the QB seven and his 108 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: first year and then he finishes the QB two last year, 109 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: and you know part of the year, you know he 110 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: was missing Antonio Brown. Uh. He's throwing the guys like 111 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: Cyril Grayson and and and Brashad Perriman for game winning touchdowns. 112 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: You just don't want to bet against this guy. And 113 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: I think when you're talking about the pics that are 114 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: going where Brady is going, um, you know you can 115 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: get him, you know, outside of the top seventy eight 116 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: overall usually like he could be a league winner. He does. 117 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: He has another QB two finished, he could be a 118 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: league winner. So you're not really risking that much um 119 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: taking a quarterback. It's his spot, but the upside is 120 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: still very, very high. And I think people are just 121 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit scared because you know, how 122 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: long could he keep doing this? But I mean, if 123 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: anyone's gonna go out on top without an actually drop off, 124 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: it's Tom Brady. And he's given us no real reason 125 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: to show that he's gonna slow down in any substantial 126 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: way yet, So I think at QB nine, I think 127 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: you take him there. Now. If he was going at 128 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: like QB two, QB three two be four, then you say, okay, 129 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: well now it's kind of balanced out, no real value there. 130 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: But QB nine for a guy that could you know, 131 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: be a top two quarterback or even the QB one 132 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: overall if things break right, I think that's the steal. 133 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: I can't argue with you on Tom Brady. Um, But 134 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: there's almost never anything to say about tom Brady because 135 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: the bottom line is you don't better guess tom Brady. 136 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: It's like a standard trope at this point. Your next one, though, 137 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: Simon Hunter is going to have some significant opinions on 138 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: let's go is Jalen Hurts from Simon's Eagles. He's going 139 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: is a QB eight. Uh. He's all yoked up, which 140 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: means absolutely nothing, But that's what everyone seems to be 141 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: talking about with him. His upper body has finally caught 142 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: up to his his lower body in terms of lifting, 143 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: So I guess that's cool. But the reason I like 144 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is because he was the QB seven and 145 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: points per game last year. Um Now he adds a 146 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: J Brown to the mix, and that could also potentially 147 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: increase not just his efficiency which should go up from 148 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: having a J Brown in place of like Jalen Reagor essentially, 149 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: but Devonte Smiths also entering year two, and just the 150 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: combination of both of those things, the efficiency should increase. 151 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: But they also may throw a little bit more now. 152 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: I know they had the most success when they kind 153 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: of went run heavy down the stretch last year. But 154 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: with all that, with all that run heaviness, with Jalen 155 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: Reagor taking up snaps, they he still finishes the QB 156 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: seven points per game, So I see nowhere to really 157 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: go butt up, And you know, I don't. I'm not 158 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: worried about his job security or anything like that, So 159 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a It's a nice gamble on Jalen Hurts, 160 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: who could easily is another guy he could finish with 161 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: the QB one overall, he could put up a top 162 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: two or three finish um And I don't really see 163 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: much downside there, just because of his rushing ability. If 164 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: he's not throwing a lot, if you know, he's still 165 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: gonna be running the football. So I think Jalen Hurts 166 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: is a high floor, high ceiling court back at this point. Yeah, 167 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: I think Christ has nailed it. Where when I look 168 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: at Jalen Hurts, I believe he's the league winner. Every 169 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: year there's a quarterback that you gotta grab at the 170 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 1: end of these first round like these first batchel of 171 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks to top ten, top twelve quarterbacks like Tom Brady 172 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: love what you just talked about, how he killed it 173 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: last year. Brady is a nice guy where you can 174 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: grab him, and you can grab a Trevor Lawrence later 175 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: on you grab you pair him with some young quarterback. 176 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: Hurts is kind of guy you can grab and that's it, right, 177 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: Like you're kind of banking on him being the guy 178 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: that's gonna win you the league. And I look at Hurts, 179 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: this is it, Like this is the perfect setup what 180 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: he just talked about. It's the year two and him 181 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: in this offense, he's got a J Brown now got her. 182 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: It's a great tight end. There's a lot of offensive 183 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: weapons on this team and what we would call a 184 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: weaker division. So to me, I I Chris nailed it. 185 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: It's like I had him probably top five is my 186 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: quarterbacks into the year. And again you don't want to 187 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: take too much from the spring football, but the fact 188 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: that he's been putting the work and he's got the 189 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: body now right all we had to season. He's got 190 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: the mind. And I talked last year the biggest issue 191 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: Hurts is the second read. The kid could not make 192 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: the second read. And when praises when players are breakdown, 193 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: Hurt's actually did pretty good finding guys downfield, but when 194 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: it's all common he's in the pocket, he wouldn't look 195 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: for the second read. As soon as that first read 196 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: was going, he pulled down and run and that cost 197 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: him major place. So no excuses for him this year. 198 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: To me, it's like, I love his upside too much. 199 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: If this kid can throw forty touchdowns and run for 200 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: ten or fifteen touchdowns easily a league winner. So I'm 201 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: right there with Chris. I love the upside of Hurts 202 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, and the thing you know, you talk 203 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: about that second read. And I was just talking to 204 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: somebody about this too, is you know, you know, you 205 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: know what you're getting with DeVante Smith already, Like he 206 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: could be a number one receiver, you know, if if 207 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: they didn't have a J. Brown like he I think 208 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: he's that good. He showed a year, you had a 209 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: pretty good rookie year. Guys usually take their year to leave. 210 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: But like you have a J. Brown, you have Smith, 211 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: and you have got her, So like you have three 212 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: guys now that can create pretty decent separation. So it's like, yeah, 213 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,599 Speaker 1: hurt is always gonna miss some means. He's not a 214 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: perfect quarterback. That's why, you know, that's why he is 215 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: what he is. That's why he was drafted outside the 216 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: first round. But just having guys that are gonna be open, 217 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, so that he doesn't he maybe has that 218 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: extra half second, you know, if he gets to that 219 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: second read, if it's if the processing still not as 220 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: as great as you know, Tom Brady or some of 221 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: the other great quarterbacks in this league, he's still gonna 222 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: have guys that are open at three different positions on 223 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: a lot of um passing players. So I think that's 224 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: that's really important. That's why to A J. Brown? Um, 225 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: you know acquisition I think is so meaningful. Well, look, 226 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: it's really interesting because the Eagles have said we're all 227 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: in on Jalen Hursts this year, right, this is the 228 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: year to prove it. If it doesn't work out, we're 229 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: gonna go in another direction. But we've given him the weapons. 230 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: We got a J. Brown, We've surrounded him with talent, 231 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: Like it makes total sense based on what he did 232 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: last year, the opportunity he's going to get and the 233 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: weapons he's got to value him based too, to undervalue 234 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: him based on his a DP right now, whereas the 235 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: next quarterback on your list, you gotta take a leap 236 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: of fucking faith. Yeah, yeah, and it's it's Daniel Jones. 237 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: And the reason and this is this is a two 238 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: quarterback weak kind of play, because there's no other reason 239 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: to be even looking at a guy that's going is 240 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback right now. But I think it's interesting because 241 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: he was, you know, just inside the top twenty last 242 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: year in terms of points per game at the position, 243 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: and that was with a terrible offensive line, which three 244 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: of the starters from the old line last year are 245 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: not even signed by any NFL team yet. Like, that's 246 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: how bad this roster was. Top four receivers missed a 247 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: combined twenty four games. You know, Quan wasn't right the 248 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: whole year. He's gonna have you only had one good 249 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: tackle now he should have to, uh if you know, 250 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: if the draft pick pans out evanil so they're just 251 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: and then you have dabl who you know it was 252 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: there oversaw Josh Allen kind of growing from a guy 253 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: who we didn't know at one point into a very 254 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: good quarterback. And I don't think Jones has the same 255 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: kind of talent, but I just think everything about Daniel 256 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: Jones situation is better than it was last year, where 257 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: he was the QB eight teen in points per game. 258 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: So like this guy could sneak into like you know, 259 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: maybe like a QBL in the best case scenario, but 260 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: even if not at QB nine, if you're in a 261 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: two quarterback league, I think he's definitely giving you startable 262 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: value um, just based on the fact that he can 263 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: run and literally everything is better around him that it 264 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: was a year ago. It's always interesting how gms come 265 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: in and evaluate talent, right because clearly now this is 266 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: the second round of of management that has a belief 267 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: in Daniel Jones at least for this year, or maybe 268 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: they surveyed they didn't have many options based on what 269 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: was available in the market. But also what you just said, 270 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: terrible offensive line that the Giants just gave him no help, 271 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: a lot of injuries, say Quon so who knows Danny 272 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: Dimes could be throwing dimes right? And Jason Garrett too 273 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: forgot to even mention. I mean, the list was so 274 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: long of things that weren't right, and I'm not like 275 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm listen. I'm not trying to sit here and say 276 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is a good or even above average quarterback 277 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: or anything like that or like this like it was, 278 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: because I hate when people say, like, oh, well, this 279 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: guy didn't play well because he didn't have anything around 280 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's been the argument for Sam Donald and 281 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: all these guys. I'm just saying, for fancy purposes, he 282 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: was like just below average last year in terms of 283 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: points per game at QB eighteen, and now everything around 284 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: him is better. So you know, you put those two 285 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: things together and you could get a better a half 286 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: decent fantasy year, and he's free. So that that's what 287 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm not saying he's good or like the 288 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: like they're right for having a for having faith in him, 289 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: because I still haven't seen enough to make me think 290 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: he's like a franchise quarterback. But and I think he's 291 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: still a net negative if you're talking about, you know, 292 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks worth to the spread. But I just think for 293 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: fantasy he's free and he could give you you could 294 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: outperform his ADP by like ten best case scenario even fifteen, 295 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: fifteen slots. All right, your list of qbs sinking, for 296 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, your overvalued quarterbacks, Yeah, over 297 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: the top of the list, Yeah right, Patrick Mahomes QB two. 298 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: I just think that's too high for Patrick Mahomes without 299 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: Tyreek King. And we let's put some numbers behind this. 300 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: Over the last four incredible years from Patrick Mahomes, he's 301 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: averaging a full yard per attempt less throwing to everyone 302 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: not named Tyreek Ko and then his touchdown percentage goes 303 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: from eight point three percent to Hill to six point 304 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: four to everyone else. And that may not sound like 305 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: a lot. So if you put it in terms of touchdowns, 306 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: that's over thirteen touchdowns per six past attempt difference. If 307 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: you just put you use his touchdown rate for everyone 308 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: else as opposed to Tyreek Hill. So like if you're 309 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback highly, first of all, it's usually a 310 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: mistake period because usually people start one quarterback and it's 311 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: just a supplying demand issue. There's always gonna be quarterbacks 312 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: that you that are gonna be startable further down the list. 313 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: We just talked about Tom Brady, we just talked about 314 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, and even if you go a little further down, 315 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: there's still guys you're gonna be able to kind of 316 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: stream and mix and match. So if you're drafting a 317 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: quarterback highly, you have to be sure. And first of all, 318 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes wasn't even the quarterback to last year, you know, 319 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: and I was with Tyreek No defenses started to figure 320 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: something's out. So now you're taking away this generational talent 321 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: who que year we had a big impact on Patrick 322 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: Mahomes's numbers, and you're again expecting him to finish quarterback 323 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: too and higher and higher than last year. It just 324 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: I just think that's that's just overvaluing a guy, and 325 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: it's because he has that name, Patrick Mahomes. It's really 326 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: hard for people when they get to a certain point 327 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: in the draft and there's maybe like, you know, guys 328 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: who you would call like running back two's and wide 329 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: receiver two's, and then they see Patrick Mahomes and it's 330 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: it's hard for people to pass on that name versus 331 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: like a guy you know, kind of a middling wide 332 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: receiver two or running back too. But first of all, 333 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: it's the quarterback position. But second of all, it just 334 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense that he would have a season a 335 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: QB two season without Tyree Kill. You know, it's if 336 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: he was going to be a QB nine, then I say, okay, hey, 337 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: this guy, this is what he does. He finishes you know, 338 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: top five, top six, so better than them. But at 339 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: QB two it's the opposite. He's overvalued, and so I think, 340 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: you know, I think you're gonna want to fade him 341 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: applying the D because he can't. The only thing he 342 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: could do to beat his ADP is finishes the top quarterback. Like, 343 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: is that really likely in his first year without Tyreek Ki? No? Yeah, 344 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: I would say most of them do draft him, though 345 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: they're not You're not draft him to the second quarter. 346 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: They're drafting him just to hope top five because he's 347 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: just consistent. That's what they're banking on. I'm with you. 348 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: The Tyreek thing kind of throws a wrench into that. 349 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: It's like, again, I'm with people. He's a dominant, incredible quarterback, 350 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: but he was always consistent when he had Tyreek Hill. 351 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm with you. It's a little high, a 352 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: little little little too high for my homes. But I 353 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: guess that's just the fantasy community feels comfortable and they 354 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: feel more safe with taking him there. But your next 355 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: quarterback in those list is really interesting, your quarterback ten 356 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: um where do you have him dropping too? So Aaron 357 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: Rodgers is is who Sam is talking about, what you're 358 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: talking about, And yeah, listen, the thing about Aaron Rodgers is, 359 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: first of all, let me so, I think I think 360 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: he's like eleven twelve fourteen quarterback this year without Davonte Adams. 361 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: I don't think that means the Packers will be bad. 362 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: But you just have to look at the numbers with 363 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: it without Adams. You know, over the last two years, 364 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: nine point five yards per tent with Adams, seven point 365 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: eight with everybody else. So that's a massive difference. That's 366 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: even more than my homes and Hill and then the 367 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: touchdown percentage goes from nine point five percent to seven 368 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: point nine. So that's per six hundred attempts, that's just 369 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: about ten touchdowns difference. And let's remember Aaron Rodgers, you know, 370 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: in the like the weight tens, you know, right before 371 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: you got la Floor and Hackett who packets also gone 372 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: to denver Um, But before you had them, Aaron Rodgers 373 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: was kind of in that nine to fourteen range in 374 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: terms of production. And that was with you know, at 375 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: least one good receiver. It was Devant was there, and 376 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: I think Jordy might have even been there for a 377 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: year at the beginning of that or something. But like 378 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, at one point, I was notorious and I 379 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: was wrong about it, but I was notorious for saying, hey, 380 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: he might be done, like he might be falling off, 381 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: because he had like three straight years really was five, 382 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: but like three straight fantasy years of middle wing production. 383 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: Now his top receiver is Alan Lazard or is it 384 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins or is it you know, Christian Watson, Randall Cobb. 385 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: Like it can be overstated how poor this Receiason Corps 386 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: is now, Like it's not good. These guys don't get separation. 387 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: I just like, I don't think they're gonna throw as much. 388 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: I think the touchdowns go way down, uh, and I 389 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: think the efficiency goes way down. Now. Aaron Rodgers, he 390 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: knows how to win football game, so he's gonna do 391 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: what he has to do, and he's probably gonna put 392 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 1: up decent numbers and they'll probably win win games. But 393 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: in fantasy, I don't want to. I don't want to 394 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: draft Aaron Rodgers is as an even a top ten quarterback. Like, 395 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: I just don't want to do it. Chris nailed it. 396 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 1: They're saying that they're they're in a transition here, right. 397 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: We've read we we've read the reports, We've seen them 398 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: talk about it. They want to become a dominant defensive 399 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: team with a dominant run game, and a quarterback doesn't 400 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: turn the ball over. Rogers will sign up for that. 401 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: Rodgers knows he's getting older, so he wants less hits here, 402 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: doesn't turn the ball all over. We'll see what this 403 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: year is gonna bring. But I'm I'm right there with Chris. 404 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: There's so much more upside guys to take than Agan. 405 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: Rogers coming off again back to back m vps. It's like, 406 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: that's that's really hard to keep doing what he's doing 407 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: and now you're you know, not making them put a 408 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: high high on his back. But how many times we've 409 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: seen him get built out by Adam So it's gonna 410 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: be different for sure with the Screen Bay team. Now 411 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: your next one is really intriguing. From your QB thirteen, 412 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: I'm interest here so we know again we're better talk 413 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: about Shawn Watson. There's a lot going on there. But 414 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: for you and your rankings, do you think you're too 415 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: high on him already just because of built in the 416 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: rumors of the drama that he's gonna be suspended for 417 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: six games maybe a whole season. Yeah, well, so two thirteen, 418 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: that's the ADP, That's what it's ADP. I have them lower. Okay, 419 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: that's yeah, So that the numbers that that we're talking 420 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: here with all a d p um, I have them lower. 421 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: And that's because there's gonna be so much on certainty 422 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: had it into here and well two week thirteen, most 423 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: people put a twelve team in league. So I get 424 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: the QB thirteen. It's like, okay, he's the first quote 425 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: unquote backup off the board. But here's the thing, Like, 426 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: if you're playing in a one QB league, you don't 427 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: want to be using more than one spot on a quarterback. 428 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: So you either have a guy that you trust that 429 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna play week in and week out, or you're 430 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: gonna be streaming and dropping, you know, only holding one 431 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: quarterback on the roster at the time. So I don't 432 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: like kind of wait and see stash him, see what happens. 433 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: That's a waste of a roster spot. Then you can't 434 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: stash him when I r because he's not injured. We 435 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: don't have any idea how much he's gonna play. A 436 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: suspension could come down at any time, even during the season. Um, 437 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: you know, if if we don't get clarity before so 438 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: like in less we get some like confirmation that okay, 439 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to play for a full season, 440 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: and because of whatever, maybe the legal proceedings will take 441 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: too long and it's just not gonna happen, then will 442 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: get suspended until you know, the NFL usually waits until 443 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: after that that kind of wraps up. That's the only 444 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: way that I think you go You go higher on watching. 445 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 1: But right now it's like drafting. It was a QB thirteen, 446 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: It's it's no man's land. It's like you're wasting a 447 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: roster spot. There's no guarantees how many games he plays, 448 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: and at this point it looks like he's gonna get 449 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: at least the six games suspension. I mean, if I 450 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: was just kind of had to set a line. So 451 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's just to me, it's just a waste 452 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: of a roster spot right now. Um, you know, I 453 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: think if and it's QB thirteen, it's like if it's 454 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: a twelve team league starting one quarterback again, it's like 455 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: you're gonna have guys, you know, Brady QB nine hurts 456 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: QB eight, Like there's gonna be other guys that you 457 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: could just get a little bit earlier that are guaranteed 458 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: to be in the lineup weekend week out. So yeah, 459 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: I just don't see the point with with Deshaun at 460 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: this moment. And like if people and and if I'm 461 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: wrong and he plays the whole year, it's it's like 462 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, well, well no, we should be able 463 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: to know that. It's like it's not something where you know, 464 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: at this point, it's just a risk. It's just it's 465 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: just a risk. Not a smart draft, Christalan, that not 466 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: a good uh In your running backs that are undervalued, 467 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: I feel like the first one on the list that 468 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking at right now is right on the border 469 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: of that undervalued. If his a DP was one spot higher, 470 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: he'd probably be in the perfect spot. I don't know, 471 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. He's the RB five consensus at Fantasy Pros. 472 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: I think he has to be no lower than two 473 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: because first of all, what is where where is the 474 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: discount coming from? Is it coming from the fact that 475 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: he has only played you know, was it eight games 476 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years or no, I think 477 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: it was more than that. But you know, he's missed 478 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: a ton of games over these past two years. Um, 479 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: and there's a discount going on because of that. But 480 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: I think people are discounting of too much, considering that 481 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: every running back is the injury risk, Like every single 482 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: running back is the injury risk. So then you say, okay, 483 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: well take out the injuries for a second, and just 484 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: because every running back is an injury risk, and just 485 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: look at the production. He put up twenty or more 486 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: half PPR points in four of the five games he 487 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: finished last years. Then you know, the ones that he 488 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: didn't get hurt and weave early. Uh. And then in 489 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: each of the two years before that, he was not 490 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: only the top overall running back in Fantasy, but he 491 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: was by at least four points per game over the 492 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: next closest running back. And he was doing the same 493 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: thing last year. He just happened to get hurt and 494 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: leave two games early. That's it. That's the only things 495 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: that have changed. And now we're bumping him down to five. 496 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: To me, I just don't get it, especially where you know, 497 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry is also coming off an injury, but 498 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey has shown he can outscore him already. You know, 499 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook gets hurt a lot too. You know, he's 500 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: not the Queen, he's not like the the becket of 501 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: of health, and he's going above McCaffrey. Now, like I, 502 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: you know, these guys that are going above him, it 503 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: just doesn't really make sense. And it's just that people 504 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: are scared off because it's been two straight years of injuries. 505 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: But like I, like, there's time, there's a time to 506 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: be worried about injuries. Like Sae Kwon bark Wey, I 507 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: was yelling for people not to touch him. Last year, 508 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: everyone just thought he would go back to normal. But 509 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: this is different. This is there's no reason to expect 510 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey to get any more hurt than any other year. 511 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: And if healthy, he's probably the top running back, even 512 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: over Taylor because Tarylor, I mean, Tarlor put up such 513 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: an outlier year, whereas like McCaffrey's already done it twice, 514 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know if you could call it an 515 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: outlier where he just completely destroyed every other player in 516 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: Fantasy in terms of points per games. So yeah, I 517 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: think five is too low. I think four would be 518 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: too low. Rbift playoff Lenny Leonard for Nett. This guy 519 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: landed in a supreme spot, and a lot of guys 520 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: landing supreme spots. What he's done is not fucking out. 521 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And so every one was kind of out 522 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: on him after, you know, the Jaguar failures with Jacksonville, 523 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: but playing with Tom Brady really helps. And just look 524 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: at first of all, look at the numbers. He's going 525 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: as the RB fifteen on average. He was the RB 526 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: seven last year in both total production and points per game. 527 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: Then he got twelve million guaranteed on a three year deal, 528 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: really a two year deal, but still twelve million guaranteed 529 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: is a lot for a running back. They replaced Ronald 530 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: Jones with a rookie who it's the scouting report is 531 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: he struggles in past protection. So there's a chance for 532 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: next season an even larger workload this year than he 533 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: did last year, where again he was the RB seven. 534 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: He was a top ten running back, a top eight 535 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: running back last season. So yeah, I don't I don't 536 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: get the RB fifteen. I know he's aged twenty seven. Now, 537 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: that's usually when running backs start to start to decline, 538 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: maybe a year later, but I think he still has 539 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: at least this one more good year. And there's nothing 540 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: to suggest that he was slowing down, and there's no 541 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: injury to speak up, like, there's really nothing. I don't. 542 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: I don't understand why people are so low on him. Uh. 543 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: Another one that people are undervaluing, according to you, our 544 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: two James Connor. Yeah, I mean we know they had 545 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: to choose between Connor and Edmonds, or they felt they did. 546 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: They let Edmonds Walukee goes to Miami, so now James 547 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: Connors here, and I know they just signed Darryl Williams 548 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: and but like these guys like no like you know, 549 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: somebody will have to be the backup. But Connor in 550 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: five games without Edmonds last year, one point six touches 551 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: per game, ninety six point six scrimmage yards per game, 552 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: one point four touchdowns per game. Oh and if you 553 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: watched him play, he looked like one of the best 554 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: running backs in the league pretty much weekend and week out, 555 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: but especially in those games where he was the feature 556 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 1: of back, like this guy, he was giving him more 557 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: juice than Kyler. You know, most of that year, he 558 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: was giving him more juice than DeAndre Hopkins. Like he 559 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: was the best player on that offense for stretches for 560 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: much of the year. He was a complete beast and 561 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: they paid him. And all we've seen from him when 562 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: there's no like guy to like form a true committee with, 563 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: and there's not gonna be and there you know, there's 564 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: no one on that roster that would be right now, 565 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: he's been a twenty plus touch guy and we saw 566 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: him doing in Pittsburgh too, So it's not even like 567 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: he's done it in two different places where where he's 568 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: had the starter's role and performed at a very high level. So, 569 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: and again, yes, he's been injury prone at times. Every 570 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: running back is, so I don't see any reason to 571 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: discount him for that. I know he's had a couple 572 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: of injury play gears in Pittsburgh, but um, yeah, this 573 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: guy's balls. So let's run through and we get this 574 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: kind of quick just because these are the guys you're 575 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: down on the running backs that are dropping. Let's start 576 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: with Antoni Gibson right now, a DP running back twelve. 577 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: What's your view on him? Yeah, I think he should 578 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: just be maybe four or five six spots lower, kind 579 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: of around where he finished last year. He was RB 580 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: eighteen in points per game and half PPR last year, 581 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: and that was with j. D. Mckissic playing only eleven games. 582 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of issue with Gibson is 583 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: that he's really not ever gonna be like that true 584 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: three down back, not only because of mckissic's presence, but 585 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: also because he really wore down last year as the 586 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: season went on, and you could see a kind of 587 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: clear correlation between you know, as the workload increased, the 588 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: yards per carrying the yards after contact uh started to drop. 589 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: You know, So you know, his first year in the league. 590 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: He had two hundred six touches and he averaged five 591 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: point one yards per touch. Then that went up to 592 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: three hundred touches, and he lost, you know, close to 593 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: a full yard per touch. He dropped to four point four. So, um, 594 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: I just think he's going a little too How they 595 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: also drafted the rookie Robinson Um and he could he 596 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: could actually steal a few like short yardage carries and 597 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: things like that. So um, I just I just don't 598 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: think he's a RB one in fantasy. I think he's 599 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: he's RB two and he's being drafted like a low 600 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: RB one. So as many people know and keeper leagues, 601 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: you always want to draft the injury players from last year. 602 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: So one of the bigger draft and stash players from 603 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: last year j K. Dobbins. I see his a DPS 604 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: number twenty, You think that's too high? That's interesting. I 605 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: would love to hear what's your view on him right now? Yeah, 606 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 1: so listen to another great player j K. Dobbins. I mean, 607 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: from what we've seen at of anyway, very talented player, 608 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 1: good runner, you know, works in their system. But when 609 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: you're talking about fantasy and you're talking about and R 610 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: B two. I got a guy that you're gonna count 611 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 1: on the start, weekend, week out. I got it. You're 612 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: gonna draft in the first, you know, five rounds. You 613 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 1: want him to be more of a short thing, and 614 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: you want him to you don't want him to be 615 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: kind of overreliant on any one thing. And I just 616 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: think Dobbins is gonna be very reliant on touchdowns and 617 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: game script and things like that, because he only average 618 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: one point two receptions per game. Um, you know in 619 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: his lone year that we've seen him, and we know 620 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: Baltimore they're not really throwing to the back. That's just 621 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 1: not how their offense goes. Greg Roman is still there. 622 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't expect that to change. Um. You also got 623 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: a factor in that they they always kind of have 624 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: been a committee team. You know, Gus Edwards is still 625 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: gonna mix in and and not just like mix in, 626 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna get a substantial workload as well. And then 627 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: you also just have the fact that Dobbins isn't healthy year. 628 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: You know, he he you know, messed up his knee 629 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: last year and he's still working his way back and 630 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: we still have no guarantees that he's healthy as of 631 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: right now, um so, I just think all those factors combined, 632 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: he has a lot of bus potential, you know. Taking 633 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: him in the top twenty running backs, um, I just think, 634 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, the lack of receiving usage combined with the 635 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: fact that with the health, combined with the committee, um 636 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, there's just a lot of question marks to 637 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: be taking him in the spot where you could just 638 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: get a you don't necessarily have to take a different 639 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: running back. But I think it's a great spot. You know, 640 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: those four, fifth, six, those middle rounds draft wide receivers, 641 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: get us get a top six, top seven tight end 642 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: before they dry up, because you just don't need to 643 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: be taking these these frozen pond running backs where yeah, 644 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: one or two of them get hit, but you're looking 645 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: at a lot, a lot more of a higher bus 646 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: rate at that position given the players that are going 647 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,959 Speaker 1: they're compared to receivers and tight ends. And also right now, 648 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: right now, it's crazy to me that is a DPS 649 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 1: twenty three. But Damien Harris is being the drafted running 650 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: back right now? What's your view on him going to 651 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,959 Speaker 1: this kind of similar to Dobbins. The averaged one point 652 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: two receptions per game, and he scored fifteen touchdowns last 653 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: year attempts, which is amazing. But like, think about it 654 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: this way, would you draft La Garrett like Pete La 655 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt in New England, you know, in in the 656 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: top twenty as RB two, I don't think you would 657 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: because he doesn't catch the ball. 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I want to flip 708 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: the script because we've been going rising and sinking undervalued overvalued. 709 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: I want us to end on something positive. So Simon, 710 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: you're gonna ask Raybon about undervalued receivers, Raybon I want 711 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: to start with the overvalued, and I'm surprised at why 712 00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: receiver thirteen Jalen Waddle is overvalued given the optimistic nature 713 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: of his new circumstances. So it's optimistic in the sense 714 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: that wide receivers year two is the new year three, 715 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: like it used to be wide receivers breakout in year three. 716 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: Now it's usually a year two when you see a 717 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: big jump. Now, Wildo also had a very good rookie year, 718 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: So I don't know how much more of a jump 719 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: he can necessarily make, but I don't necessarily viewed the 720 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: circumstances as kind of better for him to produce in fantasy. 721 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 1: Last year he had a hundred forty targets, a hundred 722 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: and four catches. Now Tyreko is there. Tyreek Hill just 723 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: had an interview where he explained why he wanted out 724 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: of Kansas City, and it was because he wasn't being 725 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 1: used enough, right Like, so you know, Miami, they're gonna 726 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna kind of use him as much as possible. 727 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: And on top of that, he's just a guy who 728 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: you know, you look at targets per route run, you know, 729 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: that's how you kind of project out wide receivers and 730 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 1: when you're you know, putting a guy in a new spot, 731 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: and last year, like Waddle was far and away, you know, 732 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: the only kind of plus guy in terms of targets 733 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: per route run for the Dolphins like he was. He 734 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: was getting open, he was getting a separation, the ball 735 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: was going his way. Now you've got a receiver that 736 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: is better than him in that spot, and you're still 737 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: expecting him to finish as a top fifteen fantasy receiver. 738 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: He was wide receiver twenty in points per game last year, 739 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: and that was with a hundred forty targets and a 740 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: hundred and four catches. He was wide receiver twenty. Now 741 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: you're expecting him to jump seven spots after you added 742 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: one of the best receivers in the league and one 743 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: of the most highly targeted receivers in the league. It 744 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: just doesn't really make It just doesn't really make sense 745 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: from a numbers perspective. Even though the player is very good, 746 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: and the player could even improve from last year in 747 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 1: terms of just his skills, the numbers aren't necessarily gonna 748 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 1: back are gonna match that in terms of his fantasy 749 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: production With Hill, there what I love that you do 750 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: very well specifically, and this is what betters do well 751 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: and what successful fantasy players do well. They completely flip 752 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: conventional wisdom and the way the crowd is going on 753 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: its head. Jalen Waddle, everything you just said is such 754 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: brilliant analysis breaking down the numbers versus what I framed 755 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: as positive circumstances, which actually aren't that positive at all, 756 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: especially compared to what the numbers were last year. Another 757 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: guy who blew up last year everyone talked about is 758 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: being key to the Las Vegas Raiders getting to the playoffs. 759 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: Wide receiver twenty nine and a DP Hunter Renfroll. Yeah, 760 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: and this is a similar situation to Waddle, where Hunter Renfrow, 761 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, he's got two guys that are going to 762 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: be schemed more than him in his offense now, Davante 763 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: Adams and Darren Waller and Hunter Renfro last year, you 764 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: look at his numbers within without Waller, you know there's 765 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 1: and he's a very good receiver. He gets a lot 766 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: of separation. You know, we've seen the like triple and 767 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,919 Speaker 1: quadruple moves that he sets the defenders up with. So 768 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: he's another great receiver, but he his you know his 769 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: catches per game dropped by one point two with Waller 770 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 1: in the lineup that and then and now you're adding 771 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: Davantae Adams to that. You know, you're taking a one 772 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: point to catch drop and then you're adding atoms, which 773 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: could be another you know, one point to catch drop. 774 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: And Renfro is not a guy who's getting a high 775 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: yards per per catch or anything like that. So he's 776 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: a guy the loss of volume hurts him a lot 777 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: because for his career, he averages eleven yards per catch um. 778 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: You know, nine touchdowns last year is probably an outlier, 779 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: especially for a guy his size. You know, it's kind 780 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,919 Speaker 1: of a slot guy. So I just think that it's 781 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 1: really gonna be tough for him to produce top thirty numbers. 782 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: With those two guys. He might be a top thirty 783 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: sever in the league in terms of his route running ability, 784 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: all that good stuff, but in fantasy, it's hard to 785 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: to expect that kind of season from him. With the 786 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Javonte alone would it would probably have knocked 787 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: that down. But you're also bringing Waller back, who missed 788 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, significant time last year. If both of those 789 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 1: guys are healthy, is this is gonna be really tough. 790 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: And and also you want guys when you're drafting wide receivers, 791 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: especially around this spot, you want guys who have that 792 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: upside to be their team's number one, but no lower 793 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: than their team's number two. And Hunter Renfros already he's 794 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: already the team's number three. So it's just it's just 795 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: a situation where I think, you know, the floor is 796 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: probably decent, but I think he could go with a 797 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: hire in terms of the upside. You're overvalued at wide receivers. 798 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,439 Speaker 1: Thirty five a guy whose stock has been falling i'd 799 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: say the last year, uh, in his time with the 800 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah, and this is another one 801 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: of those numbers plays, because it's really hard to kind 802 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: of figure out how do I discount a six game suspension, right, 803 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's something that it's like, okay, wide 804 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: receiver thirty five, that that sounds right. You know, he's 805 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: usually in the top ten. We would drop him to 806 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: twenty five spots. It's really hard for people that aren't 807 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: like modeling this or really looking at the numbers to 808 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 1: to get like an accurate way of discounting the six games. 809 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: First of all, the six games is a little more significant. 810 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 1: It's not six, you know, divided into seventeen. It's six 811 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: divided into sixteen. Because no one plays fantasy on the 812 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: last day. So it's not like you're you're spreading some 813 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 1: of that suspension out over the full season. It's even less. 814 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: But okay, last year Hopkins was the wide receiver seventeen, 815 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: and you know, so he's already dropping in terms of 816 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: points per game. He's already dropping from his his heyday. 817 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: Now you've added Marquis Brown, zach Ertz will be there. Um, 818 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, Rondale Moore is entering year two, so you 819 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 1: still got competition for targets. So you look at wide 820 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: receiver seventeen, I scored a hundred ninety three points. He's 821 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,720 Speaker 1: gonna miss thirty seven point five percent of the season, guaranteed, 822 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: couldn't miss more because wide receivers tend to miss, you know, 823 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: one or two games with injury. Hopkins actually miss more 824 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: than that last year. But let's just go off that 825 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: six point five, you know, which is six into sixteen. Uh, 826 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: it's which is ten into sixteen, the amount of games 827 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: we expect him to play. You take that from the 828 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: wide receiver seventeen points last year, which is a hundred 829 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 1: nine and and you take sixty two point five percent 830 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: of that and you get a hundred and twenty points 831 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: that would equal the wide receiver forty five. So that's 832 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,919 Speaker 1: just some back, some rough back of the envelope math 833 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: to tell you that he's still going about ten spots 834 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 1: too high. He's been discounted, but not enough. So for 835 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: your wide receivers, you got on the rise. I really 836 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: like these. You know, we'll start off with the highest one, 837 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: a DP wide receiver ten from Mike Evans. Can't get 838 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: no respect, Mike Evans. You think that's too low or 839 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: too high? Yeah, I think that's too low. But like, 840 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: and it's because Mike Evans is like the highest floor 841 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: receiver pretty much in fantasy. I mean, like I think this, 842 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: I think he should be going like seven. It's like 843 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: I would take him above like Ceedee Lamb is going seventh. 844 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: I would take him above Ceedee Lamb a thousand yards 845 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: or more every season. And he's had eight seasons already, 846 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: So that's pretty like no Gronk right now with Brady, Yeah, 847 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: we don't and in No A B. You know, so 848 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: there's still you know, there's there's room to grow. But 849 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: he's done this every year, regardless of the quarterback, regardless 850 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: of the circumstances. He's had a thousand plus yards every season, 851 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: which also means he stays healthy. That's another big thing. 852 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 1: Like you know, he he's a big guy, he's built, 853 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: you know, very he's thick. He can stay healthy. He's 854 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: proving it so far. So that's you know, that's an 855 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: added bonus. But not only has he put up you know, 856 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: a thousand yards and all eight of his pro seasons 857 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: he's had at least thirteen touchdown receptions in each of 858 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 1: his two years with Tom Brady. So it's like you 859 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: have a high floor and a high ceiling. And like 860 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 1: you said, if Gront doesn't come back, maybe even if 861 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: he does, because you still you're going from you know, 862 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 1: Brown to Russell Gauge, Chris Godwin probably misses time at 863 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. There's room to grow in 864 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: terms of the target share for a very talented guy. 865 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: So I love the floor ceiling combo. For my guess, 866 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: I see another guy you're high on going right now 867 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 1: at averag draft position. While receiver thirty nine Robert Woods 868 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: our guy back off you know, pretty major injury, but 869 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: he's had plenty of time to rehab. I love where 870 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: you're coming from this angle. He's getting drafted way too late. 871 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 1: Why was she with thirty nine? Can't get to respect 872 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,839 Speaker 1: Robert Woods? Yeah, and listen, I get you know, it's 873 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: still early. Um, I expect him to start creeping up. 874 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: But I've been kind of keeping tabs on him because 875 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm very interested, you know, because I think he will 876 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: be a value if he's still if he's going out 877 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: of spot like this, as long as he's healthy. And 878 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 1: I've been you know, watching some videos out of camp, 879 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: and I mean he's cutting hard, he's catching some passes. Um, 880 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: he looks good like he doesn't like And this is 881 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: let me kind of contrast this with a guy like 882 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, another guy coming off injury. He hasn't played 883 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 1: in a while, Mike Tom Michael Thomas still hasn't practicing, 884 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,439 Speaker 1: Like we have no idea what like when he's gonna 885 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: be back, if he's gonna be good to go for 886 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,959 Speaker 1: for training camp and feeds not you know, Chris God 887 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: with another guy like he's not you know, he's not 888 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: back like Robert Woods is out here and he's moving around, 889 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: he's looking good. And again, what did I say about 890 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: the you know, wide receiver. When you get out of 891 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: the top you know five or so and into that 892 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, thirty forty range, you're looking for guys who 893 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 1: can be like a number one. And Robert Woods, if 894 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: he's healthy, it's a very high likelihood that he's the 895 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: Titans number one receiver over trailing Burks, who's had some 896 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: struggles in camp, who's a rookie. UM. I think Woods 897 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 1: comes in here and and and is the number one. 898 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: And he's had between eleven point four and thirteen point 899 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: nine half PPR points per game over the last five seasons. 900 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 1: That puts him between wide receiver nine and wide receiver 901 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: twenty five. UM. And that's you know, and that's and 902 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,399 Speaker 1: that's with you know, last year for example, twelve point 903 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: five half PPR points per game that was with Cooper 904 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: Up going off. That wasn't as the number one option there. 905 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: So I know Tennessee throws a lot less, but he's 906 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 1: gonna get the same opportunity as a J. Brown in 907 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: terms of you know, the routes being on the field 908 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: and you know, potentially the targets if he's if he's healthy, 909 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: which it looks like he is. So yeah, I think 910 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: he's going to be a steel at a wide receiver 911 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: threte now and the last one here wide receiver forty six, 912 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk going very late and you you like him 913 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: way about that position doing it. Yeah, So this it's 914 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: just a bet on the fact that like it's it's 915 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: just a smart gamble. I guess you could say at 916 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 1: that point in the draft, wide receiver forty six, y're 917 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: essentially getting him as a low end number four receiver 918 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: for another guy who could be and I would says 919 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: he's the most likely guy if you Jackson's number one receiver, sigmon, 920 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: and you talked earlier, like you know, you kind of 921 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: implied Trevor Lawrence might take a step forward, right, you know, 922 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: and I think he can only go up from from 923 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 1: what he did last year. You know he has talent um, 924 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: So Christian Kirk. In the seven games without DeAndre Hopkins 925 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 1: last year, you average five point six catches sixty five 926 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: yards per game. You know, that was his time as 927 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: he showed he could be a true number one receiver 928 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 1: or at least put up those kind of numbers. You know, 929 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 1: even getting more defensive attention. And then you look at 930 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: the targets per route run and his you know, his 931 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: number last year nineteen point four percent. That was higher 932 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: than Marvin Jones who was at eighteen point two uh 933 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: and Za Jones who was at seventeen points too with 934 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 1: the Raiders. So you know, when you're projecting this out 935 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: just based on the numbers alone, you know, Christian Kirk, 936 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 1: you would project him to get the most targets on 937 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: the team. And then you look at the contract they 938 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: gave him, uh, and you look what he did when 939 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: he was that top guy, and you say, Okay, like 940 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: this guy, you know, maybe he doesn't put up top 941 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: twenty numbers, but I think he definitely could sneak into 942 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: the top thirty. Is the Jaguars, you know, number one receiver, 943 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: de facto number one receiver. So um, I think wide 944 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 1: receiver four he six is way too low. Dude. We 945 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 1: have covered it. We have gone through undervalued, overvalued, a 946 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,240 Speaker 1: DP for quarterbacks, for running backs, receivers, We had surprises, 947 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: we had controversy, everything you could want in a list. 948 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: Chris Raybon of The Action Network are due everything analysts, 949 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 1: but really one of the best gambling and fantasy analysts 950 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: in the country, according to every metric, whether you attract 951 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: him in the app, whether you follows see his rankings 952 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: on Fantasy Pros. Listen to him and Sean Kroner every 953 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: week on Fantasy Flex, the fantasy podcast from the Action Network. 954 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: Well done, Raybon. I will definitely be your friend thirty 955 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 1: years from now. Love it for that, I love it. 956 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for having you guys. Always a pleasure for Chris Raybon, 957 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: for Simon Hunter, for Matt Mitchell. I am Chad Milman. 958 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: This has been the favorites from the volume of podcast network. 959 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: Download us from Apple, podcast Spotify, subscribe, rate, review, leave 960 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: us five stars, say whatever you want. Feedback is a 961 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: gift until next time, and love you