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Speaker 1: Good anything, everybody, and welcome to the Giants Mini Camp

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Speaker 1: Review Special presented by Bob Discount Furniture and the official

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Speaker 1: Furniture Store. A match just partner of the New York

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Speaker 1: Football Giants. John Schmolt, Paul Tatino. We've snuck in or

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Speaker 1: broken in, Paul, to the Giants practice facilita here needs

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Speaker 1: to other for New Jersey. It's like us in a

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Speaker 1: couple of security guards and whatever, like night time nocturnal

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Speaker 1: animals are running around the practice field.

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Speaker 2: You mean you didn't get taste, No, I did not.

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Speaker 1: And for you, the players have been released from spring work.

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Speaker 1: The coaches have more or less been released from spring work.

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Speaker 1: So the next month over here in the Meadowlands will

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Speaker 1: be extremely extremely quiet, as the teams now get about

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Speaker 1: five weeks off until they report for training camp on

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Speaker 1: July twenty seconds. So, Paul, it's been a busy spring here.

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Speaker 1: We've had a draft that we've talked about at length.

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Speaker 1: We've had ten OTA's really nine because the last one

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Speaker 1: got canceled for a bowling outing. And then you add

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Speaker 1: a couple of maybe one and a half mini camp

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Speaker 1: practices and we've seen a lot of football, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's before we start talking about what we've seen.

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Speaker 1: The first thing I think it's important to stress is

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Speaker 1: that we did not see any real football over the

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Speaker 1: course of the last month and a half. The rules

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Speaker 1: for these practices and for mini camps and OTAs it's identical,

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Speaker 1: is that there are no pads and there is no contact.

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Speaker 1: So it's impossible to take a ton out of this,

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Speaker 1: especially when it comes to play up front. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about some of that, but you can't really see anything

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Speaker 1: when the guys in the trenches are not wearing pads

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Speaker 1: and they cannot hit each other. This is more of

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Speaker 1: a passing camp, so you definitely get more watching the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: wide receivers and the guys on the second and third

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Speaker 1: levels of that defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 4: John.

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Speaker 2: You know, when we talk about what coaches want from players,

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Speaker 2: they want alignment and assignment and they want execution. Well,

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Speaker 2: the first two issues are the alignment and the assignment.

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Speaker 2: That's what you can really tell from these early spring presses.

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Speaker 2: Because execution in most positions of the NFL, in any

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Speaker 2: level of football, involves contact. So what execution can you tell? Well,

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Speaker 2: does the quarterback throw the ball? Well, does the receiver

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Speaker 2: catch the ball well or does he drop it? Does

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Speaker 2: he get all tongue tied with his feet and have

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Speaker 2: trouble running routes. There are certain parts of the execution

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Speaker 2: you can tell, but for most of the guys on

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Speaker 2: the field, that third box isn't incomplete grade. It's the

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Speaker 2: assignment and the alignment that really matter.

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Speaker 1: And you can tell whether or not the rookies are

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Speaker 1: out of sword, if they're swimming, if they look like

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Speaker 1: they're a deer in the headlights. So those are the

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Speaker 1: type of high level things you can see as you

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Speaker 1: go along here. So it's time for our Spring Standouts,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Sloman's. So, Paul, I'm gonna start

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Speaker 1: with something that's not even on the field. We can

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Speaker 1: kind of go back and forth here and pick out

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Speaker 1: a few different things that we want to talk about,

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Speaker 1: because I really don't care what I saw from Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson on the field. The guys been in the league forever.

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Speaker 1: He's won Super Bowls, and he looked in practice exactly

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Speaker 1: like he looks watching him for the last decade and

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Speaker 1: a half. He throws a great deep ball, he can

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Speaker 1: move around well, but I have never seen and I've

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Speaker 1: been here since two thousand and seven working for the team.

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Speaker 1: You've been around, you know, about fifty years longer than that.

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Speaker 1: So I have never seen a group of players you

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Speaker 1: to formally be impressed with the locker room presence and

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Speaker 1: leadership of another player the way this team has been

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Speaker 1: impressed with Russell Wilson. I was here for the vast

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Speaker 1: majority of Eli Manning's career. As much as the players

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Speaker 1: loved Eli, you'd never heard the effusive praise for Eli

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Speaker 1: because he was never a vocal guy. He was a

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Speaker 1: lead by example type of guy, right true. But the

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Speaker 1: way these guys have all talked about Russell Wilson, and again,

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Speaker 1: the results on the field is what's going to matter.

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Speaker 1: How well he plays in games overall is what's going

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Speaker 1: to end up mattering. But you can tell he's already

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Speaker 1: made an impact on this locker room. And I think

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Speaker 1: what's impressed me the most is what all the individual

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Speaker 1: the way, has all been remarkably consistent.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you would think.

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Speaker 1: They're reading out of the same book and parroting talking

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Speaker 1: at a podium. That's what it sounds like, but that's

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Speaker 1: not what's happening. He's just that similar and consistent from

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Speaker 1: All these guys have just been effusive with how much

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Speaker 1: of a clear communicator he is, how much he encourages everybody,

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Speaker 1: brings them together, how he's very clear in what he

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Speaker 1: he wants in the field. That specific to the receivers yea.

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Speaker 1: And again it's just been so consistent and universal from

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Speaker 2: John He's an equal opportunity leader. There are those guys

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Speaker 2: who play quarterback who will lead the skill position players.

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Speaker 2: There are those guys who play quarterback who will lead

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Speaker 2: the huddle well and lead the offense well. Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: has decided he's taken upon himself from the moment he

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Speaker 2: got to the Giants facility that he was going to

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Speaker 2: be a leader of the entire team, and he was

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Speaker 2: going to do it vocally. It wasn't going to be

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Speaker 2: just by example. It wasn't going to be just with

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Speaker 2: his work ethic or just with his attention to detail.

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Speaker 2: He was going to talk every position and every player

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Speaker 2: on this roster up as much as he possibly could.

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Speaker 3: Look.

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Speaker 2: You and I have been to all of these spring practices, etc.

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Speaker 3: Etc. The media has had some limited access.

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Speaker 2: But we've been to them all and the one thing

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Speaker 2: that you notice time and time again is that he

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Speaker 2: makes no differentiation between positions or units. He will be

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Speaker 2: walking out to the field with a defensive back one day,

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Speaker 2: the next day, he's walking back into the locker room

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Speaker 2: with a defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, he doesn't care veteran, no high

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Speaker 1: draft picked undrafted free agent, like you'll pull Dalen Cambry

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Speaker 1: aside the same way he'll pull aside Jalen Hyatt. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's just what he does.

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Speaker 2: He is an equal opportunity leader. That's the only way

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Speaker 2: I can describe it. And you'll watch him out there.

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Speaker 2: Practice will be over right now. The CBA, everybody knows

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Speaker 2: the CBA, the labor union agreement between the players and

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Speaker 2: the league requires a whole tunnel restrictions in terms of

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Speaker 2: what you can and cannot time My field time in

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Speaker 2: the meeting room at But here's what is allowed to happen.

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Speaker 2: When the coaches stop practice because their time is up

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Speaker 3: With the players anymore. That's per league rules.

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Speaker 2: They'll come inside and you will see several small clusters

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Speaker 2: for another twenty minutes and they'll be working on their

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Speaker 2: on a tight end. They've done this on numerous occasions

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Speaker 2: throughout the spring, and quite often Russell Wilson will stay

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Speaker 3: And he'll be talking up with those guys.

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson made a decision when he signed with the

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Speaker 2: Giants he was going to be all in and it's offense.

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Speaker 1: He is all in, all right, I know he still

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Speaker 1: we'll go back and forth, but you brought something up,

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Speaker 1: so I want to build on that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I've been very impressed with a couple of the Giants

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Speaker 1: young players that you hope will become superstars at some point.

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Speaker 1: We already saw some of that from the league neighbors.

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Speaker 1: As a rookie, y Hope continues to build on that. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: which is something that's kind of bothered him chronically since

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Speaker 1: But what I've seen from him that it's made me

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Speaker 1: happy is that once he's done with his rehab working

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Speaker 1: on the side with the trainers, he stands behind the play,

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Speaker 1: whether it's eleven on eleven in team or he's usually

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Speaker 1: not out there for the seven on seven, and that's

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Speaker 1: too early when they get to eleven to eleven on team.

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Speaker 1: For folks that don't understand how practice works, you basically have,

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Speaker 1: you know, the offensive defense going against each other on

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Speaker 1: the field, and on one sideline, the offense is lined

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Speaker 1: up watching guys usually separated by position groups. You're ready

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Speaker 1: what we see ninety five percent of the guys that

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Speaker 1: you would have done that, no problem. What he's gonna

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Speaker 1: They're standing behind the offense running the play.

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Speaker 3: He goes in the huddle.

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Speaker 1: First, well, I'm gonna get there with the coaches, and

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Speaker 1: then he will stand with them, talk to him between plays,

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Speaker 1: especially when it was Russell Wilson, because he's been with

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Speaker 1: the ones all of the spring, he'll put his helmet on,

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Speaker 1: by the way, he also did some walk through stuff

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Speaker 1: be good to go for camp. But I just thought

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Speaker 1: the fact that, knowing he's not getting the physical reps,

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Speaker 1: that he was trying to maximize the mental work he

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Speaker 1: was doing during these practices. Look, is it gonna mean

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Speaker 1: a whole lot when he goes out and plays and

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Speaker 1: the fall isn't going to have an impact on his play.

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Speaker 1: Probably not, but it's something he didn't have to do.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that he wants out of his way

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Speaker 1: he's doing that because he cares enough to hear Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson call plays, talk to him in between plays, and

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Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks between plays to understand what you're trying

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Speaker 1: to do on certain plays. So he's in rhythm with

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Speaker 1: these guys. And that to me has been pretty cool

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Speaker 1: to say, because I don't think he would have done

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Speaker 1: that as a rookie. To be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so either.

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Speaker 2: But I can't be sure.

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Speaker 1: No, I could have be sure because he was healthy

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Speaker 1: during most of camp, so there's no way to know.

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Speaker 1: But I think it is a sign of maturity to

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Speaker 1: me that he's going above and beyond, and again, no

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Speaker 1: banged up.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you two additional facets that may also be

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Speaker 3: coming into play here. John. I'm not saying for sure,

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Speaker 3: because I don't know either to you, right, but I'll

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Speaker 2: John I'll say this, I agree with that statement, But

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Speaker 1: Now, it hasn't been all good, though I didn't say

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Speaker 1: twelve thirty on Friday, so go check that out. Paul

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Speaker 1: and I will be on. We'll give our Giant players

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Speaker 1: that they're least least afford to lose this year, which

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Speaker 1: and then you hope you never have to talk about

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Speaker 1: that happening again the rest of the year. But we

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Speaker 1: will take a bunch of your calls the same way

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take your calls tonight at eight and eight

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Speaker 1: eighth eight one zero one nine eight eight eight oh

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Speaker 1: eight one zero one nine. Get on the hopper, give

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Speaker 1: us a call on a very busy show today talking

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Speaker 1: Giants football. I know you know met fans out there,

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Speaker 1: they're probably not very happy. They've lost six straight. You

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Speaker 1: want to get your minds off the Mets. You want

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Speaker 1: to talk some Giants football, Yankee fans, I know you

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Speaker 1: want today. You shouldn't be that happy either. You can

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Speaker 1: gave off the six cave losing Street Knicks fans. You

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Speaker 1: have a coach. You're seeing the Pacers annihilating the thunder

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Speaker 1: here in game six seven.

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Speaker 2: That the Rangers traded Chris Crider a few days ago,

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Speaker 2: who was the heart and soul of the team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it hasn't been great in New York sports

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Speaker 1: over the past couple of weeks. So no talk some

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Speaker 1: Giants football with Let's get in the line eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight ITA eight one zero one nine. But let's get

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Speaker 1: to our first interview of the show, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by our friends that visit Barbados and official travel Destiny,

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Speaker 1: partner of the New York Giants. I had a chance

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Speaker 1: to talk to Giants rookie quarterback Jackson Dart. Here's my

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Speaker 1: chat with him and Jackson we just said, jamis year.

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Speaker 1: It's airing it right before we air yours. And you

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Speaker 1: know he's been in the league like eight nine years,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, dude, this is the most complicated offense

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Speaker 1: I've ever had to learn it. It has been a real challenge.

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Speaker 1: So what has it been like for you as as

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Speaker 1: a rookie trying to figure it all out?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, my first two days I was swimming

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Speaker 7: a little bit just with all the information and whatnot.

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Speaker 7: But at the same time as all I know, so

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Speaker 7: getting to learn it day in and day out. I

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Speaker 7: have great guys in the room, great coaching staff who's

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Speaker 7: you know, on a development plan with me day in

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Speaker 7: and day out, and I'm just blessed to be here.

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Speaker 1: Now that you're here, what are some of the things

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Speaker 1: that you did do in college that you think have

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Speaker 1: helped you transfer and be ready for the pros? Some

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Speaker 1: of the concepts that are similar.

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Speaker 3: And things like that.

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Speaker 7: I think conceptionally I've pretty much ran, you know, all

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Speaker 7: the same concepts, and I think that's kind of universal

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Speaker 7: throughout football. Obviously, the lingo and how you know, maybe

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Speaker 7: some reads will change up here to there are a

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Speaker 7: little bit different. What makes it much more complicated is

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Speaker 7: obviously the players that you're playing against and the scheme

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Speaker 7: that you're playing against. So having to go against these

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Speaker 7: our guys day in and day out has been has

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Speaker 7: been some really good work. But I think that, you know,

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Speaker 7: for me, something that's gonna carry over is just my

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Speaker 7: aggressiveness ability to push.

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Speaker 8: The ball down the field at the same time I

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Speaker 8: take care of the ball. I mean, you can look

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Speaker 8: at my numbers year after year. You know I don't

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Speaker 8: turn them.

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Speaker 7: Over the ball a lot, and you know I keep

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Speaker 7: it on our on our side. So really excited to implement,

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Speaker 7: you know, this offense more and more into you know,

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Speaker 7: some of my play style and whatnot. But yeah, I'm

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Speaker 7: really excited for the season.

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Speaker 1: Now it makes it more complicated for you. But are

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Speaker 1: you excited about the optionality This offense gives a quarterback

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Speaker 1: where you're able to, based on what the defense shows,

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Speaker 1: you make adjustments, do different things. You and wide receivers

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Speaker 1: can have site adjustments things like that, where you can

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Speaker 1: take advantage of what's available to you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 7: I feel like, you know, this is what separates this

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Speaker 7: scheme is you can go out there against any defense

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Speaker 7: and you're gonna have answers.

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Speaker 8: And I love that part of it because it lets

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Speaker 8: the quarterback play.

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Speaker 5: Fast and free.

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Speaker 7: And you know, you've seen the success level on such

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Speaker 7: a high level from coach Stable and all of his success,

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Speaker 7: and then at the same time from coach Kafka win

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Speaker 7: in a Super Bowl, you know, in Kansas City. So

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Speaker 7: I'm really excited for this year. I'm really excited for

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Speaker 7: the future and you know, this offense and where we

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Speaker 7: can go with it.

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Speaker 1: Drinking from a fire holes is an expression that a

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Speaker 1: lot of people use. When you first get in and

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Speaker 1: you started doing you said, you're starting to get a

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Speaker 1: better feel for it. Yeah, is it hard to kind

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Speaker 1: of put yourself in a figure out what stage you

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Speaker 1: are at, how much more work there is to do?

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Speaker 1: What are some of the goals that you have set

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Speaker 1: for yourself. When you hit training camp, the pads come on,

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Speaker 1: you start doing more of the next step you want

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Speaker 1: to take in your development in terms of becoming an

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Speaker 1: NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that during this time that I've been

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Speaker 7: here so far, you know, obviously, you have a new

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Speaker 7: install pretty much every day, so you're constantly learning, You're

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Speaker 7: constantly getting.

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Speaker 8: New reps at new reps at different things. So I'm really.

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Speaker 7: Excited for when camp starts just to have the chance

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Speaker 7: to know that I've already ran.

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Speaker 8: A lot of these plays, right, and i can go

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Speaker 8: out there.

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Speaker 7: I can play faster, I can think more freely, and

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Speaker 7: I can just go out there and play, you know,

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Speaker 7: just ball. I can just play the way that I

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Speaker 7: play instead of at times maybe overthinking the things, but

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Speaker 7: not just because of the complexity. But I can't wait,

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Speaker 7: and I'm excited for this, you know, this period that

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Speaker 7: we're in right now, and then even do this break

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Speaker 7: to continue to develop.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. Final question, Russell Wilson came in year one. He

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Speaker 1: took a guy's starting job. He ended up being the

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. What has he told you and give an

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Speaker 1: advice he's giving you about quickly adjusting to the NFL

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Speaker 1: and you know, who knows when you're going to get

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Speaker 1: your opportunity. That's not important, but just advice of figuring

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Speaker 1: things out quickly and learn the NFL offense and how

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Speaker 1: to be effective quickly in the National Football League.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, obviously have to be very talented, you have to

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Speaker 7: have the intangibles to do it. But at the same time,

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Speaker 7: I think that you got to have the work ethic,

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Speaker 7: you got.

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Speaker 8: To have the ability to lead others.

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Speaker 7: And I think that that's something that Russ does so

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Speaker 7: well to answer and him being able to rally the

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Speaker 7: guys around him, and this is leadership presence. You know,

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Speaker 7: that's been huge for me to see. And you know,

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Speaker 7: I feel like I can just take something away from

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Speaker 7: him every single day, which has been such a blessing.

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Speaker 7: But at the same time, you're right, you gotta develop

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Speaker 7: fast and you gotta be ready to play because you

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Speaker 7: never know when your chance is gonna come.

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Speaker 8: And definitely not gonna let that slip.

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Speaker 1: Jackson, good stuff, the best of luck, good scene, you man,

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Speaker 1: thank you. And of course Jackson dor and the rookies

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Speaker 1: arrive a week before the rest of the Giants do

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Speaker 1: the fifteenth for trading camp, so they'll be here on

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Speaker 1: the fifteenth. I actually had to talk to a chance today.

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Speaker 1: I talked to and I'll give fans a little preview

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Speaker 1: for it. Had a chance to talk to his head

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Speaker 1: coaching'll miss link Kiffin this afternoon. Oh we've done to you, yes,

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Speaker 1: and he would that'll be getting aired again. I mentioned

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Speaker 1: Johnson podcast, Giants app, Giants dot Com, gihants YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: That's it'll come your way that week when they get

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Speaker 1: back right before camp on the fifteenth, so check that out.

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned that Dared if you guys we had

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Speaker 1: a media day earlier this week. It was Monday. I

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Speaker 1: counted him. I did fifty interviews with different players in

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Speaker 1: the roster. So those are all be airing on the

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Speaker 1: Giants YouTube channel over the next month or so. So

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Speaker 1: if you guys are into it, you want to get

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Speaker 1: some of the minutia with these players and look, I

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Speaker 1: get to some deep stuff. If you're into that, go

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Speaker 1: check it out Johnson'll podcast Young's YouTube channel. It's there.

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Speaker 1: But look, you heard it. And the thing about Jackson Paul,

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Speaker 1: there's no lacking of confidence either. No, he believes in himself.

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Speaker 1: There is. There is definitely a quarterback swagger there with

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Speaker 1: him that I think feeds into his competitiveness as well,

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Speaker 1: where he kind of approaches the game almost like a

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Speaker 1: defensive player, and though he was playing quarterback, and there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt that leaks out of him when you're having

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Speaker 1: these conversations with him.

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Speaker 2: I think a couple of things come into play here,

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Speaker 2: John when you talk about how does that manifest itself.

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Speaker 3: Remember he started out at.

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Speaker 2: USC before he transferred to Old Miss, so he understands

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Speaker 2: the spotlight of being in a huge media market.

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Speaker 1: I remember he got he was playing as a freshman there. Yes,

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Speaker 1: like he was going he I think week seven or

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Speaker 1: eight he became the star. That's because he had an

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Speaker 1: injury earlier that year. I talked to him about this.

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Speaker 1: But then the next year they bringing the new head coach,

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. He brings him Caleb.

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Speaker 2: Williams, right, and that was his choice. He saw what

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Speaker 2: was up and he's like, I'm going, oh, I don't

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Speaker 2: think anyone.

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Speaker 3: You don't blame them.

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Speaker 1: No, you know some people like the Ding quarterbacks for

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Speaker 1: transferring that situation. You have to transfer for your quarter

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Speaker 1: you do.

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Speaker 2: You have no choice otherwise you're never gonna develop, You're

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Speaker 2: not gonna get a chance. So let's let's acknowledge the

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Speaker 2: impact of his time at USC as part of the

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Speaker 2: maturing process for him. Then he goes to Old miss

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Speaker 2: and not only does he have incredibly talented people there

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Speaker 2: and Kiffen Judge, Charlie Weiss's son, we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: How the players around them, Trey Harris Quin, Shawn Jenkins

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Speaker 1: was there.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, but the guy, the guidance, the mentors that

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Speaker 2: he had, look make no mistake about it. And I

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Speaker 2: know we talk about how Nil these days has really

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Speaker 2: given a lot of the college players a pseudo professional

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Speaker 2: experience because they're getting money, they're getting the accolades, they're

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Speaker 2: getting all the responsibilities that a lot of guys only

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Speaker 2: get when they finally make it to the NFL. So

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Speaker 2: it's kind of morphed that situation a bit, but it's

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Speaker 2: quite clear from the time at USC in the spotlight

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Speaker 2: there to the time at Old Miss where he had

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Speaker 2: a pro cocoon of mentors. Why shouldn't he be confident,

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Speaker 2: Why shouldn't he be assertive. He's had some of the

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Speaker 2: best people that you could have to groom him along

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Speaker 2: and to bring him up the ladder. I just think

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Speaker 2: he gained the maturity and the self confidence and the

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Speaker 2: self respect from being in those situations with those people.

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Speaker 2: And I think that all played into one of the

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Speaker 2: reasons that Joe Shane liked them so much.

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Speaker 1: Hey, look and remember, and I always say this, I'd

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Speaker 1: much rather have to pull a quarterback back a little

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Speaker 1: bit than to push him to be more aggressive, no

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Speaker 1: doubt ten out of ten a million times, no doubt

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Speaker 1: his you know, and I think we saw this when Daniels.

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Speaker 1: Sorry even look, when he came out in his first year,

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Speaker 1: he was slinging the ball over the place to the

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Speaker 1: point where they were holding the football, fumbles, interceptions and

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Speaker 1: had to get fixed. And then I think eventually it

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Speaker 1: went too far the other way where he was maybe

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Speaker 1: a little bit too conservative and it was hard to

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Speaker 1: push him past that because he was concerned about turning

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Speaker 1: the ball over. And I don't think that's ever gonna

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Speaker 1: be a problem with Jackson Dork. He has that. I

659
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Speaker 1: think gunslinger mentality is just a big part of who

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Speaker 1: he is as a player. I don't think that's going

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Speaker 1: to change. We've seen it in the spring, Paul, and

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Speaker 1: that's how he played all miss. He will throw the

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Speaker 1: ball to a covered receiver. He will trust his receiver

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Speaker 1: to make a play.

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Speaker 3: He did it in practice yesterday and got it picked off.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Correct, And that wasn't the only time, and happen to

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Speaker 1: the other over the course of the spring, I know.

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Speaker 1: But as he figures out where to place the ball,

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Speaker 1: what's open in the NFL and what's not open in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. This is all learning process. And he was

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Speaker 1: asked out at his press conference that he had on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon, he says, look, I'm going to push the

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Speaker 1: envelope in practice, because I want to learn what I

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Speaker 1: can do and what I can in the NFL. And

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Speaker 1: if that means some interceptions in practice, all right, and

677
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Speaker 1: that's the right attitude to have. Rather make the mistakes

678
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Speaker 1: in practice and figuring out what you can get away

679
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Speaker 1: with and what you can't then when you start playing

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Speaker 1: in games.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I'm really interested to see John when

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Speaker 3: he gets into the practice sessions against the Jets, because

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Speaker 3: that'll be the first time he sees somebody else in

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Speaker 3: another helmet.

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Speaker 1: And those are the only scrimmages it looks like the

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Speaker 1: Giants will have in the summer.

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Speaker 2: Occur to Brian Dable, Oh we have those dates. By

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Speaker 2: the way, it's August twelfth and thirteenth.

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Speaker 1: I believe, yes, because they play the Jets on the sixteenth.

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Speaker 1: So if you give it a couple of days off

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Speaker 1: before that fifteenth, fourteenth, yeah, it makes it thirteenth and

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Speaker 1: twelfth makes sense.

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Speaker 2: That's that's gonna be first. One is gonna be at

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Speaker 2: Florin point might be thirteenth and fourteenth. Actually, I don't

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Speaker 2: have to look that up.

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Speaker 3: That's you know what.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say something wrong here. I did

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Speaker 2: actually put it up on my Twitter.

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Speaker 3: So let me just go.

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Speaker 1: It'll be in the week before the Jets game. And

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Speaker 1: to your point, it's going to be a home and

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Speaker 1: home with the first one at Florida.

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Speaker 2: It is the twelfth and thirteenth, twelfth and thirteenth first

704
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Speaker 2: ones at Flora Park.

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Speaker 3: Second one is in East Rutherford.

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Speaker 2: That'll be the first time he actually gets to throw

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Speaker 2: against a different helmet since he's come to this.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, a pretty talented secondary that the Jets.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I can't wait to see them though scrimmages.

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Speaker 2: But in any event, here's my point. The one thing

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Speaker 2: that he said that he's already noticed and it wasn't

712
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Speaker 2: so much about.

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Speaker 3: You know, everybody says the playbook is really going to

714
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Speaker 3: be difficult. Well, obviously, with.

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Speaker 2: His training and with what he went through at Old Miss,

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Speaker 2: the playbook is not too difficult.

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Speaker 3: He can handle it. He's not swimming, as coaches like

718
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Speaker 3: to say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's gonna take time. It will take because

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Speaker 1: even veterans, like I said, Jameis, like you heard in

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Speaker 1: that interview, Jameis Winston is having you know, this is

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Speaker 1: challenge of learning.

723
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Speaker 2: This offen Table's playbook isoriously complicated.

724
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Speaker 1: A lot of verbs, a lot a lot of not

725
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Speaker 1: not a lot of words to convey a lot of information.

726
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Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of memorization, which is hard

727
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Speaker 1: for all the players and all the positions, not just quarterbacks.

728
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Speaker 2: But at least Dark is not driving off the road

729
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: right now. Correct, Okay, he's holding his own here.

730
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Speaker 3: Here's the one thing.

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Speaker 2: That he said that really stuck with me, and it's

732
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Speaker 2: because you don't hear a lot of young quarterbacks talk

733
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Speaker 2: about this. Even though we see it and we talk about.

734
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Speaker 3: It, a lot of young qbs won't admit to it.

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Speaker 2: He told us yesterday flat out, the speed of the

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Speaker 2: dbs when they close. You look, you see it, You

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Speaker 2: let the pass go. You think you've made a really

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Speaker 2: good pass. You think it's going to be completed, and

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Speaker 2: then what happens You find out that the dB came

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Speaker 2: in and got his hands on it and made a play.

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Speaker 3: He's like, uh, that's that's different. That's different.

742
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Speaker 2: He's already noticed that and he's willing to admit it,

743
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Speaker 2: which is what I like about him.

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Speaker 1: All Right, get on the lines, folks. Eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight one zero one nine eight eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: one zero one to nine, talk some Giants football with

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Speaker 1: you right here on the fan. We've been talking about

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Speaker 1: everything that happened in Mini camp at OTAs and in

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Speaker 1: the spring for the Giants. All eyes have been on

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Speaker 1: the defensive front, which is going to be not just

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Speaker 1: the best unit on the Giants, but one of the

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Speaker 1: best units in the division. That's how strong it is

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00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: between the Giants defensive tackles and edge players together. One

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Speaker 1: of the veterans in that group. They're big free agent

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't say free agent, they're big tre An addition

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Speaker 1: from the twenty twenty four offseason then they sign him

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Speaker 1: to a contract extension was Brian Burns. I had a

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Speaker 1: chance to chat with him. Brian, what's up?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good man?

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Speaker 5: How are you doing good?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 1: So tell me about this edge room. It's loaded.

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Speaker 5: I mean, what is it to say? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Plenty?

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Speaker 9: I mean, but yeah, now we really we're really talented

782
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 9: in this room. We I'm planning on this year is

783
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Speaker 9: having waves and waves of rushers, Like not only is

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Speaker 9: it just me and Kat, but now we have a duel.

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Speaker 9: We have Chauncey, We have a guy that goes under

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Speaker 9: radar a lot. His name is tomar Fox. And these

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Speaker 9: are really guys that can really get out the quarterback.

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Speaker 9: So I'm really excited.

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Speaker 1: So can we cut you down to like seventy percent

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Speaker 1: of the snaps now? Like you don't have to play

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Speaker 1: ninety percent anymore?

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Speaker 5: Honestly?

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Speaker 1: Would that help you?

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Speaker 2: Let me?

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Speaker 9: Seriously, honestly, as much as I would not like to

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Speaker 9: come out of the game. It would honestly, it would help,

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Speaker 9: you know, just to be able to be a bit fresher,

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Speaker 9: you know, and to keep my winning I could be

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Speaker 9: even like I just said, fresher or you know, more

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Speaker 9: energy for the fourth quarter, you know, when it really matters.

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Speaker 9: So I think it really helped for sure.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel that more in the fourth quarter at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game, or do you feel that

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Speaker 1: more when you're playing your eighth or ninth snap in

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Speaker 1: a row. When does that hit you when you feel

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Speaker 1: like you're playing a lot of plays.

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Speaker 5: So they're really different type of fatigues.

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Speaker 9: That eighth or ninth is more temporary as far as

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Speaker 9: like your legs are fatigued in that moment of breath

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Speaker 9: maybe yeah, because yeah, but the fourth quarter fatigue is

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Speaker 9: more so the accumulation of all the snaps you've played

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Speaker 9: throughout the first.

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Speaker 1: Three maybe not as much burst off something like.

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Speaker 5: Your body's actually the muscles are actually tired.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the eighth and ninth player is more

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00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 9: of a mental thing than your actual body.

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Speaker 1: Got it, Okay, So there's something too what the Eagles

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Speaker 1: have always done. Then we're running guys out there for

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Speaker 1: sixty seventy percent of the snaps, and when they're rolling

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, your offensive line is winded, they're

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Speaker 1: still getting you. There's something to that for sure.

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Speaker 3: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: All right, tell me about U dual Carter. He's been

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Speaker 1: in your room a little bit. Everyone says he's so serious.

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Speaker 1: You guys can't keep the smile. Are you trying?

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Speaker 9: He's cracked a couple of smiles. He just had to

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Speaker 9: open up a little bit. But at first, yeah, he

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00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 9: was super serious. Other than that, he's a smart kid.

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Speaker 9: He's picking the playbook pretty well. He asked questions like

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Speaker 9: I can really see his IQ shine a little bit

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Speaker 9: while we're in in the classroom in the meeting room.

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Speaker 5: But what is it about?

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Speaker 9: Is like Q that jumps out at you. It's just

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Speaker 9: it's more so the willingness to learn, you know. He

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Speaker 9: asked me questions. He asks close questions. He kind of

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Speaker 9: challenges either one of us as far as like whatever

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Speaker 9: the scheme is, so he kind of challenges you to

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Speaker 9: explain it, and he picks up on it quick like

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Speaker 9: a lot of like me coming in as ricky and

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00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 9: having to deal with the stuff that's on his plate

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00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 9: would have been difficult and he's handling it well.

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Speaker 1: So how about him physically? Athletically? Does he match everything

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00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: you would think you would get out of a third overall?

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Speaker 5: Pick what got game? What got skills?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 5: He got skills? Uh.

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Speaker 9: We have seen him flash a bit, you know, in

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Speaker 9: practice and whatnot. The true testaments when we get the

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Speaker 9: training can put the pass on, let's really see what's up.

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Speaker 9: But I have no doubt.

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Speaker 1: That he's going to be what we expect for him

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00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: to develop that power quotion, and like I said, we

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Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to see that yet because we're

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00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: not doing power rushers. There's no pads or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: So we might have it, just wait for it to explode.

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Speaker 1: I think we saw when he was in college to

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Speaker 1: have that power to complement the speed. So you have

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Speaker 1: those two weapons as counters to each other right when

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Speaker 1: you're going to get some of these offensive tackles.

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Speaker 9: It's very important and I'll definitely be a true testament

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Speaker 9: that just due to the fact that we were similar

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Speaker 9: coming out as far as like our speed and uh,

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Speaker 9: I wish I would have took heed to that power

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Speaker 9: a lot earlier in my career. So I'm definitely gonna

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Speaker 9: try to instill and tell him about it. But yeah,

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00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 9: definitely they have that combo and that balance is very important.

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Speaker 1: We don't talk about it because we keep the schemes

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Speaker 1: on the wraps here, but some of the stuff that

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Speaker 1: we've seen you guys do with the three yo on

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Speaker 1: the field together UKT and Abdul Carter, it's kind of fun.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting to say the least. Just

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00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 9: not gonna say anything too specific, but just be ready.

873
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: Would you like to move off of the edge in

874
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: some of those spots or do you like just being

875
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: on that edge spot of rushers in the edge, or

876
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: would you like the opportunity are let me get one

877
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: on one with a guard here, let me loop, let

878
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: me let me get the center on a te twist

879
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: or something like that.

880
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, And now I love those those opportunities.

881
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 9: And I like the fact that we have so much

882
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 9: versatility in our room that we now can everybody can

883
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 9: do it, you know, so and you'll never know where

884
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 9: it's coming from or who's doing what. So that's very

885
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 9: like important and it's really gonna be to our advantage.

886
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: Have you won a game lined up as a three tech?

887
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

888
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: I have. Are you comfortable doing that. Do you like

889
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: doing that?

890
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 5: I don't want to be on the line.

891
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 9: I'd rather be a little bit behind, just get a

892
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 9: little head start up, getting a little face.

893
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm cool with that.

894
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: Very good. What do you think this defense looks like? Now,

895
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: we talked about the front already, you had jvaon and

896
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: pauls it. In the back end, you have Bobby still

897
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: in his group in linebacker. What does this defense look

898
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: like when all said and done, you guys are ready

899
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: to go first first weekend of September.

900
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 9: It's gonna be exciting. Like I said, I think we

901
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 9: have studs in every position, so to speak. We have

902
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 9: a great duo in the back end with our safety

903
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 9: young rising star in Nuban and established star in Holland.

904
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 9: Our corners are very man corners, very dicky and uh

905
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 9: We got the field generals as far as Mike and Bobby,

906
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 9: and then our d line is where it's time the feast.

907
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 9: And like I said before, like we got me at

908
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 9: Duel KT and we have a dex it's kind of

909
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 9: hard to beat. We also have another young Rooky Da

910
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 9: I'm excited to see once he gets out there. So

911
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 9: we got a lot of we got a lot of pieces. Man,

912
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 9: it's a good problem to have. I would say, yeah, I.

913
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: Think the deck's part of it, right, I mean, just

914
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: to have that guy that you have to put four arms,

915
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: four hands on in the middle, like you have no

916
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: choice you have to do. Although I see it's gonna

917
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: march your guard center into the quarterback's lap, it almost

918
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: does that allow you to scheme things up to really

919
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: control who's getting one on ones and who's getting the

920
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: advantage with your defense, knowing that teams have to put

921
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: two guys on decks.

922
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 5: It does.

923
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 9: And that's what I mean when I when I say

924
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 9: like you got to pick your poison in the sense

925
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 9: because you dex is a non negotiable four.

926
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 5: Hands on him regardless.

927
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 9: Yes you can chip the edges, that's perfectly fine as well,

928
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 9: but somebody's gonna have a one on one. And with

929
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 9: the talent that we have on this D line and

930
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 9: in this room, it's just feel I see us winning

931
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 9: multiple ways, you know what I'm saying, Because you could

932
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 9: chip both sides, but nobody has a double team on

933
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 9: that three take, so multiple ways.

934
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: Last guy you mentioned, Chauncey, I think he's really flowing

935
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: under the radar. He's been all over this place in

936
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: the spring where he's lining up and where he's making

937
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: plays for that matter. And he's he's as huge, he's

938
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: a big dude inside outside. How do you think he

939
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: can be utilizing this defense really get the most out

940
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: of him.

941
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 9: It goes to us being so versatile. Like you just said,

942
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 9: he play inside and outside. He played all across the line, honestly,

943
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 9: but he could play across the line, pass rush and

944
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 9: stop run blocking. It doesn't really matter. So with the

945
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 9: person that we have, we can do so many different things.

946
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 9: But he's definitely going to be a key piece to

947
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 9: this defense. I promise you that burns good stuff. Then

948
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 9: thank you, appreciate you.

949
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 3: Appreciate man.

950
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 9: One more person that did not before we turn this

951
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 9: thing over, just because he's actually gonna add he's gonna

952
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 9: be a big piece of this as well. Roy, he's huge,

953
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 9: a huge as a huge guy. We didn't talk about,

954
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 9: but Roy established it. He's gonna help us a lot,

955
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 9: help us out of that.

956
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,479
Speaker 1: I like it. See Thoris, my man, Thank you, Brian.

957
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: That's Roy Robertson Harris by the way, who was a

958
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: friging addition that kind of went under the radar from

959
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: Jacksonville over the summer and I just I was at

960
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: seven minutes. I had to go on to the next player,

961
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, no, hold on, we got to tell

962
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: the way Roy Robinson Harris and you talked to dra

963
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: Patterson about him, the Giants defensive line coach. He's been

964
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive line coaches in the NFL

965
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: for thirty years. He coached John Randall when he was

966
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: with the Vikings to give the old heads some reference.

967
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: He's a huge fan and this guy's like six six,

968
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: he's two ninety. He's a gigantic human being and loves

969
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: his long arm. So he's going to be a factor,

970
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the starter next to decks in those

971
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: you know format front packages.

972
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: Physically, he's a very imposing figure when you run into one.

973
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: You want him one of the first guys off the bus.

974
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, you absolutely do.

975
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: And now again, you know, throughout his career it's been

976
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: rather quiet. I don't think a lot of people outside

977
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: of Chicago where Jacksonville really know very well. And of

978
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: course last year he finished up with Seattle before the

979
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: Giants brought him in. This is a guy who has

980
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 2: never put up gaudy numbers. Now, he's been in the

981
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: NFL for.

982
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: Eight years, and I think his highest SAX season paula

983
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: three and a half, three and a half.

984
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: Three and a half, three half, so with Jacksonville one year.

985
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, not big numbers. But look, I was talking to

986
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: Dre on the side and he's like, look, even though

987
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: he's been in the league for eight years, that doesn't

988
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: mean anyone's ever properly taught him how to use his length.

989
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to do that and he's going to be very,

990
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: very good for us this year.

991
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: See, that's one thing that a lot of people outside

992
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: the building will never truly understand, is that sometimes a

993
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: player just needs to get with the right position coach.

994
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: Now, look we'll see too. We don't know what that's

995
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: gonna happen yet. I don't know either.

996
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 3: We don't know either.

997
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 2: But look, Dexter Lawrence was not all NFL until Drey Patterson.

998
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 3: Got That's correct, and that does happen. Okay, it does

999
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: happen in this league. Sometimes the position coach is the

1000
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: key to unlocking the guy's potential.

1001
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: That interview O'Brien earns by the way it was brought

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1003
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1005
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1009
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: number one of the books, but we still got a

1010
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: lot more coming your way, folks. We're gonna hear from

1011
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: our stableton, who does an excellent job covering the Giants

1012
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: for the record, who'll join us at the top of

1013
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: the hour. Here at eleven o'clock, we're gonna hear from Giants'

1014
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: third year wide receiver Jalen Hyatt. That's gonna come up

1015
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: in the second hour as well. He's had a really

1016
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: good spring. Was fun talking to him about his transformation

1017
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: as a player. And again, get on the line. We'll

1018
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: try to get your calls in at eighty eight, eight

1019
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: oh eight, one zero one nine. A lot coming your way.

1020
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: Quick update, by the way, the Pacers are maintaining that

1021
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: big lead. They're up by twenty seven on the Oklahoma

1022
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: City Thunder with six point twenty five to go in

1023
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, tyres Hali, but we're not gonna see

1024
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: him again. He's had a nice game with that calf,

1025
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 1: so we're gonna get a game seven in the NBA Finals.

1026
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: There's a lot of fun over the weekend. That'll be good.

1027
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: Can't wait to see it. Quick break, we'll come back

1028
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: our number two. Arts Stableton from the Record joins us

1029
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: to talk some Giants football. Stick with us, we'll be

1030
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: right back. Go back on the Giants Midcamp Review Special

1031
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: presented by Bob's Discount Furniture, Official furniture store Mattress partner

1032
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: of the New York Giants, Smelt Tatino with you. We'll

1033
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: take your calls at eight A A eight oh eight

1034
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: one zero one nine, recap the everything that happened with

1035
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: the Giants in the spring and looking at to what

1036
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: we're going to see a training camp. We've heard from

1037
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart, Brian Burns. Later on in the show, we'll

1038
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: have Jayalen Hyatt join us as well. But before we

1039
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: get to that, it's time to bring in Giants b

1040
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: reporter Art Stables in. That's brought to you by Sloman's art.

1041
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: It's good to talk to you, my friend. We're not

1042
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: going to see you for about a month now. Was

1043
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: we all kind of get our R and R N

1044
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: before training camp begins and the players report on July

1045
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: twenty second? They could, of course enjoy all of your

1046
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: coverage at North Jersey at USA today of course writing

1047
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: for the record art. Good to talk to my man.

1048
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: How are you got smoke at the Tino?

1049
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 4: What's up?

1050
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: Guys?

1051
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 4: How you doing? And you know, fortunately for you guys,

1052
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 4: you won't have to see me for a month.

1053
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: Are We always like hanging out and chopping it up

1054
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: with you, man. So I'm gonna start very simple and

1055
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: ask you one question. What's your biggest takeaway from what

1056
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: you saw from the Giants in the spring.

1057
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 4: You know that's a loaded question, John, No, I.

1058
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: Only do a loaded questions art. That's it. I just

1059
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: try to get people into trouble. That's what I'm used

1060
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: to it.

1061
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 4: I hear you, I hear you, dude. I think, to me,

1062
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 4: the biggest takeaway I mean I had to. I mean

1063
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 4: I thought I wrote a story for tomorrow. I thought

1064
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: the two most impressive players of the spring were Russell Wilson,

1065
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 4: and Abdul Carter. So I'll go Russell Wilson first, because

1066
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 4: I will admit that I expected to see a washed

1067
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 4: up quarterback after hearing all the things from Pittsburgh, seeing

1068
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 4: what transpired from Afar in Denver, and I thought that

1069
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 4: we would be leaving the spring putting the clock on

1070
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 4: Jackson Dark to start at quarterback for the Giants. And

1071
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 4: while that clock is still ticking, I don't believe that

1072
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 4: clock is ticking as fast as I or really anyone thought.

1073
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 4: So I'll say, to me, the biggest storyline with the

1074
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 4: Giants right now is Russell Wilson and how he has

1075
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: kind of taken command of the position and of an

1076
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 4: offense and kind of you know, look, he still holds

1077
00:47:55,080 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 4: that steam. I think that regard from players and what

1078
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 4: he's done on the field so far this spring, he

1079
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: hasn't lost it, and I think that's the most important thing.

1080
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: We don't know what's gonna happen week one in Washington,

1081
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: we don't know what's going to happen after that. But

1082
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 4: to me, right now, the biggest story for the Giants,

1083
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 4: and I know some fans will look at it and say,

1084
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 4: come on, let's get to the rookie. I think it's

1085
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson. I really do. I think Russell Wilson has

1086
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 4: looked a lot better than I thought he would. And

1087
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 4: you know I have if I'm the Giants, I'm looking

1088
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 4: at it going, you know what, if this guy has

1089
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 4: more in the tank then people thought. I think that

1090
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 4: maybe you're gonna get some competent play from quarterback early on,

1091
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 4: and I think that could make a big difference in

1092
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 4: this offense.

1093
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: And you know are in a lot of ways, the

1094
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: locker room's going to tell you who to play and

1095
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: who they believe in. And Paul and I opened up

1096
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: the first hour with us and opened up the program

1097
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: with this. The team universally, whether it's defensive players, offensive players, receivers, quarterbacks, whatever,

1098
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: is like they're reading out of a press secretary's handbook.

1099
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: When they talk about Russell Wilson, they all say the

1100
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: same exact things about him. And I heard the same

1101
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: things you did. Paul did to when he was on

1102
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: the outs with Sean Payton and Denver. But I'm going

1103
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: to go back to the twenty twenty four Shrine Bowl

1104
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: where Davis Webb was one of the offensive coordinators and

1105
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: at that point he had been the quarterbacks coach for

1106
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson in Denver, and I went up to him

1107
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: afterwards and I said, you know, Davis, and this is

1108
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: after we heard all the noise about everything that was

1109
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: going on there and all that stuff, and you know,

1110
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: Sean Payter just got you know, all that stuff. I'm like,

1111
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: you know, how was he to deal with? And he

1112
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: was absolutely effusive in his praise for Russell Wilson and

1113
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: how great it was to deal with him. And that's

1114
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: all we've heard from the players here too. So to

1115
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: your point, the players believe in this guy. They think

1116
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: because of the panache, the history, the leadership, they think

1117
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: this is the guy and the right guy to lead

1118
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: this team right now. And I've never heard so many

1119
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 1: players say the exact same positive things about one guy,

1120
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: like reading out of like a press junket.

1121
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 4: And that's the thing, you know, And and look, we

1122
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 4: we've all heard that before, right of players. It's very

1123
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 4: easy for a player to get here. I mean, I

1124
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 4: think back, you know when Jonathan Stewart came in here.

1125
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 4: You know a lot of people talked about Jonathan Stewart.

1126
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 4: And you know, we know Dave Gettleman's famous, and we

1127
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 4: had to bring in a mentor for Saquon and that

1128
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 4: whole thing adult, right, Jonathan Stewart couldn't play, you know

1129
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 4: what I mean. So it was very quickly realized in

1130
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 4: that locker room that Jonathan Stewart was just eating up

1131
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 4: a roster spot. I mean, and that's no disrespect to Stuart.

1132
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 4: I mean, basically, he was he was done. His his

1133
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 4: career was at the end, and I don't think he

1134
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 4: ever played again, and he ended up going to Carolina,

1135
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 4: you know, retired and as a legend in that franchise.

1136
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 4: But the point with Russell is that I haven't seen

1137
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 4: anything this spring. And again it's only a passing camp

1138
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 4: and when we understand that, but I haven't seen anything

1139
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 4: to think that his arm is shot. Certainly not with

1140
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 4: the moon balls that he's throwing. He seems to be

1141
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: moving around in the pocket pretty well. He's got command

1142
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 4: of this offense, and you know, it just seems like

1143
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 4: he has a purpose here. And you know, I thought

1144
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 4: Tommy DeVito made a very good point yesterday. You know, look,

1145
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 4: DeVito has seen what has happened at quarterback here the

1146
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 4: last two years he's been in that room. He's been

1147
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 4: on the inside. And I know fans don't look at

1148
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 4: Tommy right now and say, oh, Tommy's not the future,

1149
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 4: Tommy's not this. But what Tommy DeVito is is an

1150
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 4: honest voice in that room. And what he said about

1151
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson yesterday I thought was very interesting. He said

1152
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 4: he's never been around a quarterback who's as intentional in

1153
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 4: his conversations and his communications with every player offense defense,

1154
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 4: doesn't matter who's talking to Russell Wilson. He makes you

1155
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 4: think that he is an intent in what he's saying

1156
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 4: to you and what he's trying to communicate. And I

1157
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 4: think that's a big, big factor here for quarterback because

1158
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 4: they have not had that Eli Manning.

1159
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know all right.

1160
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: Wilson goes by the theory that a high tide raises

1161
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: all boats, and that's why I think he addresses everybody

1162
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 2: on that roster as many times as he possibly can

1163
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: on a regular basis. But I want to stay in

1164
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: the quarterback room with you because I certainly did not

1165
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 2: expect Jameis Winston to have an impact on that locker

1166
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: room like he already has in being here for just

1167
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: a short time. We always knew him as Doctor Jekyll

1168
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 2: and mister Hyde.

1169
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: On the field. He knows he's the number two here.

1170
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 2: He knows he's not supposed to play as well as Russell.

1171
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: Wilson does what he does, and maybe he even gets

1172
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 2: skipped over by Jackson Dart at some.

1173
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: Point if they make a move later on in the season.

1174
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: So Wilson is under no fantasy that he is going

1175
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 2: to challenge for the number one job. Now, maybe that

1176
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: makes him more comfortable in his own skin, but what

1177
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 2: we have seen and heard from him is that he

1178
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: has also been a very valuable and tangible on this team.

1179
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 2: I will tell you that surprised me. But even he

1180
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: told us everybody had a perception of me for years.

1181
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 2: I know what I am. My teammates and coaches know

1182
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: what I am, and I've proven it wrong.

1183
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I believe him, you.

1184
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 4: Know, And that was I had asked him in the

1185
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 4: press conference that you guys were at the other day.

1186
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 4: You know, just the idea, you know, I wanted to

1187
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 4: know because it's funny every person you talk to in

1188
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 4: the Giants, the first thing you say about Jamis is

1189
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 4: his personality, and everyone wants to talk about his personality.

1190
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 4: And then they get to who he is as a

1191
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 4: teammate and then you watch him play. I mean, the

1192
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 4: guy threw for over four indred yards last year in

1193
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 4: the game for the Browns, you know, against the Denver defense,

1194
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 4: which was very good, and he also threw three interceptions,

1195
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 4: two were returned for touchdowns. So that was Jamis in

1196
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 4: a nutshell. But I asked Jamis in that press conference,

1197
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 4: you know, are you bothered that that people want to

1198
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 4: talk about you the character first? And he took that

1199
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 4: a step further and he said he wanted to talk

1200
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 4: about his character, but I meant as his personality. You know,

1201
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 4: everyone sees him as a jokester and a funny guy

1202
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 4: and a meme seemingly every time he opens his mouth.

1203
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 4: But I think there's still that number one overall pick.

1204
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 4: And Brian Dable mentioned that the other day, and it

1205
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 4: really didn't hit me until he mentioned it. He said,

1206
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 4: there's one number one overall pick in that locker room,

1207
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 4: and that's Jameis Winston. And people forget it's been a

1208
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 4: long time, but Jamis was a number one overall pick.

1209
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 4: So I gotta imagine that just being on the field,

1210
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 4: even if he's not in line to be that starter.

1211
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 4: He was probably penciled in to be the starter for

1212
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 4: about four days after he signed, until Russell decided to

1213
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 4: sign afterwards. But I do think that that Winston does

1214
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 4: bring something else to the table, you know, maybe perseverance.

1215
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 4: Maybe it's you know, hanging there early on and you know,

1216
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 4: kind of reinvent yourself, you know. So for if you're

1217
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 4: a Jackson Darton, even a Tommy DeVito, and you you

1218
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 4: see Jamis Winston, you know, Jamis isn't here slamming the

1219
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 4: table saying, you know, in week three if things aren't

1220
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 4: going well, that he should be the starter on this team, right,

1221
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 4: And you know, I think they need a guy like

1222
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 4: that too to be in this room to kind of

1223
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 4: understand what his role is. And look, he signed here

1224
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 4: for two years, guys, So all this talk about, oh well,

1225
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 4: if Jackson Dart's ready trade Jamis all this stuff. When

1226
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 4: Joe Shane signed Jamis Winston, it was very similar to

1227
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 4: when they signed Tyrod Taylor. They saw a two year

1228
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 4: commitment and that's for basically four million dollars a year.

1229
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 4: I mean that's less than what they signed Drew Locke

1230
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 4: for last year to be the backup. So they see

1231
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 4: Jamis as a guy who's here more than just the

1232
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five season. Now, could that change, maybe, But

1233
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 4: I think Jamis has slotted in here to be a

1234
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 4: part of this team, not just this season, but next year.

1235
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 4: And you can't say that about Russell Wilson. So it's

1236
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 4: a very interesting dynamic for that quarterback room, and we're

1237
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 4: going to continue to talk about it.

1238
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: And I know it's unfair for us to continue to

1239
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 2: harp on quarterbacks in this conversation, and I apologize to

1240
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: those folks out there who want to hear more about

1241
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: some of the other spots, but Art, you're uniquely qualified

1242
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 2: to talk about what Tommy DeVito has done for that

1243
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: room as well. The Giants brought him back. I know

1244
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: he was under restriction rules because he was only in

1245
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 2: the league, you know, for a couple of years.

1246
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 3: But they didn't have to. They could have cut.

1247
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: Him and set him free and said, look, we've signed

1248
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: the two veterans, we're going to try to get a

1249
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: kid in the draft.

1250
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: We don't need you. But no, they thought enough about Tommy.

1251
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 2: They thought enough about his character, They thought enough about

1252
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 2: his personality, his leadership skills, his ability to handle the

1253
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 2: situation that they did allow him to come back, and

1254
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 2: we've all heard it. He's the guy who knows stables

1255
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 2: playbook better than the other guys. He's helping teach those

1256
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: guys you.

1257
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: Could all get. The first week and a half a camp,

1258
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: he was the best quarterback. He's had a.

1259
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: Really good spring Art and again, you know him a

1260
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: long time. I think you're uniquely qualified to talk a

1261
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,479
Speaker 2: little bit about the value that he actually does bring,

1262
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: even though nobody probably considers him much of an asset.

1263
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean I thought he was the

1264
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 4: most valuable quarterback that they could possibly have between now

1265
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 4: and September because of the reasons you said. You know,

1266
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 4: Jackson Dart's best friend in that locker room, in that

1267
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 4: quarterback room, is not going to be Russell Wilson. It's

1268
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 4: not going to be Jameis Winston. It should be Tommy

1269
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 4: DeVito because if he's smart, Jackson Dart is going to

1270
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 4: sidle up to the young quarterback who two years ago

1271
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 4: had to learn this offense and learn it quickly, and

1272
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 4: perhaps a similar situation that Jackson Dart will have to

1273
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 4: learn it. You know, let's not forget the Vito went

1274
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 4: without getting first team snaps that entire year when he

1275
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 4: was an undrafted rookie until all of a sudden, Daniel

1276
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 4: Jones and Tyrod Taylor both got hurt and then DeVito

1277
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 4: had to play a game as the starter the following week.

1278
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, then he finally got those

1279
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 4: first team reps in practice. So I do think there's

1280
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 4: value in that. I think listening to Davido yesterday, you

1281
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 4: can see he and he and Dart are kind of

1282
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 4: the younger guys. You know, Russell and Jamis both have families,

1283
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 4: you know, so they're when they're away from the facility,

1284
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 4: even though they're spending time together, they're doing different things.

1285
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 4: You know, Tommy and Jackson are single guys in this area,

1286
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 4: and you know, we all know Tommy is extremely popular

1287
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 4: in this area. So for them to be together, Jackson

1288
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 4: and Tommy, and I do think it says something about

1289
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 4: Tommy too. And I think, you know, this means something

1290
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 4: to him to stay here. You know, look, he's a competitor.

1291
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 4: He could not have been thrilled that it was a

1292
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 4: statement made that. You know. Look when they drafted Jackson Dart,

1293
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 4: you know, they basically said, you know, we don't we

1294
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 4: don't believe in you as this future starter here. I mean,

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Speaker 4: but it doesn't necessarily mean that we don't believe in

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Speaker 4: you to be a player here in this franchise, that

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Speaker 4: you don't have value. But everybody's got to do what

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Speaker 4: they got to do. I still think that Tommy DeVito

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Speaker 4: to be a player and a teammate, you know, that

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Speaker 4: has value in that locker room. And and what I

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Speaker 4: know of the Giants. I mean, if Tommy DeVito doesn't

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Speaker 4: play another snap in the regular season, and he doesn't

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Speaker 4: go to another team, and he somehow just you know,

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00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 4: is one of those guys who sits home and waits

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Speaker 4: for the call on Tuesdays to go do workouts and

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Speaker 4: you know, at other teams to try to get on

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Speaker 4: a roster. He's going to always have value in North Jersey.

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Speaker 4: And he's made an impact with the Giants, So I

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Speaker 4: think it has value for him to be here, to

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Speaker 4: be a good teammate, to put your expectations and your

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Speaker 4: ego aside and say, you know, what, what do I

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Speaker 4: got to do to be a part of this team.

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Speaker 4: Because guys, we've seen it, We've all been around this

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Speaker 4: a long time. You just don't know. I mean, Russell

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Speaker 4: Wilson last year got hurt in training camp. You just

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Speaker 4: don't know what happens. And I'm not talking about a

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Speaker 4: serious injury, but you know, guys pulled calfs. And look

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Speaker 4: what happened to Jalen Hiatt the other day. All of

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Speaker 4: a sudden, we're all talking about Jalen Hyatt is having

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Speaker 4: the best spring of any wide receiver in the building,

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Speaker 4: and then he comes down tweaks something, and you know

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Speaker 4: it doesn't practice the next two days. And I don't

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Speaker 4: think it's a serious injury, but those things happen. And

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Speaker 4: I think Tommy DeVito has value here, even though some

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Speaker 4: fans don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 1: He's been taking Jackson Dart out to a bunch of

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Speaker 1: Italian restaurants that apparently has gone Long Art. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure if you know this. Paul Detino, the man next

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Speaker 1: to me is a huge Love Island fan, and he

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Speaker 1: wants to get invited to their Love Island watch parties.

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Speaker 1: Can you call Tommy and see if you can set

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Speaker 1: that up. I don't even know where it is on

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Speaker 1: the map. It's a It's not a real place, Paul,

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Speaker 1: It's a TV show. I know okay, do you I'm okay,

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Speaker 1: are you really? I couldn't tell that it was really.

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Speaker 3: Good, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: I think Paul fought Love Island is what they called

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Speaker 4: Julian Love when he was here.

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Speaker 1: Line, you mentioned Abdul Carter. Your first answer, Art, what

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Speaker 1: do you think of what you've seen from the rookie class?

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately we haven't seen a ton of Cam Scataboo and

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Speaker 1: Darius Alexander. What have you thought about the rest of

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Speaker 1: the guys, especially the two at the top?

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Speaker 4: You know, I I kind of tweeted this today and

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01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 4: I wrote it as part of the story tomorrow about

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Speaker 4: you know, like I said, the rising and you know, impressions.

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Speaker 4: Who had the best spring of the giants? I mean,

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Speaker 4: I thought Abdul Carter was a good player. I mean

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Speaker 4: obviously the guys you know, we all know John, I

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Speaker 4: remember you and I talked about him at the Combine

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Speaker 4: when you guys did shows live from Indy and it

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01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 4: was you know, well if they ever have a chance.

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Speaker 4: But you know, maybe that's why Tennessee was talking trade

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Speaker 4: at the time, because everyone expected Aduel Carter to be

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Speaker 4: number one. I mean, it wasn't talking about Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 4: It was the talk was about Abdul Carter was going

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Speaker 4: number one. Look, he's better than I thought he was

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Speaker 4: going to be at this point. And you know, I

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01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 4: hate doing that because we sometimes we get carried away

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Speaker 4: and you know, we talk about how good of a

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Speaker 4: guy is in shorts, but you just watch him from

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Speaker 4: the moment he stepped on the field at rookie mini camp.

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Speaker 4: He moves differently. You know, he reminds me of the

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Speaker 4: way Von Miller moves, you know what I mean like,

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Speaker 4: and I don't mean to say he's the next Von Miller.

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Speaker 4: You know, we had fun yesterday talking to Charlie Bullen,

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Speaker 4: the outside linebackers coach. He talked about you know, Abdul

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Speaker 4: and you know, he said January eighteenth, it was his

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Speaker 4: son's birthday back in January, and he got the call

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Speaker 4: from Team Brass saying, hey, start doing your homework on

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Speaker 4: Abdul Carter. He said. Normally they don't start looking at

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Speaker 4: prospects until the coaches do. Don't until late February, which

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Speaker 4: is you know, at the Combine. You know there maybe

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Speaker 4: they'll be at the Senior Bowl, but they're usually at

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Speaker 4: the Combine and they start digging in and he said

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01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 4: he got that call. He remembers it. I'll always remember it.

1377
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 4: January eighteenth, it was his Sun's birthday. They went to

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Speaker 4: New York Aquarium and then on that Monday he started

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01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 4: digging in on Abdul Carter and he said he's special.

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Speaker 4: And the thing about Abdul that I can't wait to

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Speaker 4: see is they talk about finishing. And it's kind of

1382
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 4: interesting that Keavon Thibodeau talked about it on Tuesday, about

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01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 4: his inability to finish plays, and he knew that that's

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Speaker 4: where he needs to improve. Not that he can't finish plays,

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Speaker 4: but he looks back at last year and he sees

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01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 4: a lot of plays where he didn't get a sack,

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Speaker 4: where he got a half a sack, and he knows

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Speaker 4: that if he finishes the play, he goes from having

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Speaker 4: four to five sacks to maybe twelve thirteen sacks, And

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Speaker 4: as an outside linebacker in the NFL, that is a

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Speaker 4: huge difference in terms of perception. So I'm excited to

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Speaker 4: watch Abdul Carter. I think he's got and Paul, you

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01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 4: go further back than Schmelk and eye, but I can't

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01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 4: remember later that he had much more. But I can't

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Speaker 4: remember a player with the kind of edge that Abdul

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Speaker 4: Carter seems to have. Like he seems to Yes, he

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01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 4: has his funning, he's got his Darth Vader stuff, which

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Speaker 4: you guys know I love, But the reality is he's

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01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 4: got that edge that it's almost like, you know, he

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01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 4: doesn't care about the Eagles, who he used to root for.

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01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 4: He doesn't care about the Cowboys, he doesn't care about

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Speaker 4: Kansas City walking in here, uh for the home opener,

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Speaker 4: Like he just seems like he's that no nonsense like

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01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 4: almost like has a Brandon Jacob's kind of attitude where

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01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 4: it's just like, all right, you want to you want

1406
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 4: to come here and try to come come take us out?

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01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 4: All right, well I'm going to show you on the field.

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01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 4: And I think the Giants kind of needed that, you know.

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01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 4: And I'm certainly not calling Dexter Lawrence and saying he's

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01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 4: not tough, because he's a tough guy. But I could

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01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 4: think of one play, one time that this defense has

1412
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 4: gotten into like a scrap or a fight on the field,

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01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 4: and I don't mean with their teammates. And that was

1414
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 4: in Buffalo two years ago. That was when Kavon and

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01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 4: Dexter and Leonard Williams took issue with the play that

1416
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 4: was at the bottom of a pile. Other than that,

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01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 4: these guys come off as like really happy guys, like

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01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 4: look at dex dex is sexy Dexy. I mean he's not.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna chew nails and spit

1420
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 4: it out. He's not lt you know, Fire and Brimstone.

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01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 4: He's not. You know Carl Banks, you know who Bill

1422
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 4: Parcells called killer. Okay, they don't have killers on this defense.

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Speaker 4: I think they do now. I think Abduel Carter is

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01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 4: a killer mentality that he's gonna step on this field

1425
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 4: and it's going to be all right. You guys want

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01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 4: to play, let's play, and I like that. I'm excited

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Speaker 4: to see that from Abdul Carter.

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Speaker 3: You gotta have some.

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Speaker 2: Crazy wild dogs art, just like number fifty six said,

1430
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 2: you got to have some of those guys real fast

1431
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: because we're up against it. What I do want to

1432
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 2: mention the revamp second secondary. We know they spend big

1433
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 2: money on a debo, they spend big money on Holland

1434
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 2: we know what Nuban is. We saw him last year

1435
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 2: as a rookie and he was dynamite, but we're still

1436
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 2: not sure what Tay Banks is because he was up

1437
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 2: and down in this first two seasons.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. I talked to Jason mccordy, who you guys

1439
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 4: obviously knows CBS used to be on GMFB, you know,

1440
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 4: doing a lot of ESPN stuff now, and I asked

1441
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 4: mccordy about the Giants secondary, what would you do? And

1442
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 4: he said, you know, he thinks Tay Banks will settle

1443
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 4: in not being the number one, you know, the guy

1444
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 4: who has to travel, the guy who's looking at that.

1445
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 4: I wouldn't forget about Cortell Flot We've seen Flock at

1446
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 4: some first team reps the last couple of weeks. I

1447
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 4: wonder if it's a little bit of a mental game

1448
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 4: with Ty Banks that the coaches are trying to see

1449
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 4: what they can pull out of Tay to compete with

1450
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 4: Flot there for and not give that job right to

1451
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 4: Tay Banks. But you talk to some of the teammates

1452
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 4: and you know they like what Tay brings to the table.

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01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 4: I think the interchangeability of what can they do in

1454
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 4: the secondary to disguise their coverage and how can these

1455
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 4: safeties play together. Drew Phillips is obviously a player that

1456
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 4: in the nickel needs to be able to step his

1457
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 4: game up. I mean the analytics guys from last year

1458
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 4: love them, PFF loves them. I think Drew played well

1459
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 4: at times but got banged up too. So yeah, I

1460
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 4: mean Tay Banks. The Tay Banks Cordell Flot competition is

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Speaker 4: going to be something, even if it's not a competition,

1462
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Speaker 4: because we saw it at the end of the spring

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Speaker 4: here that Flot was getting first team reps, Banks got

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01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 4: some second team. I think sometimes we read too much

1465
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 4: into that, but coming into training camp, you can bet

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Speaker 4: that that is one competition that is going to be

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Speaker 4: If it's manufactured by reporters or not, that remains to

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Speaker 4: be seen. But I do think that Banks and Flat

1469
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 4: in that spot is going to be very interesting.

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Speaker 1: Art North Jersey dot Com the Record, anywhere thing else

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Speaker 1: New York Giants, Schmunck Tatina with you for another half

1505
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: hour or so, get on the line, give us a

1506
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: call eight eight eight eight one zero one to nine

1507
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: and Paul Ewan. Art talked about the Giants secondary a

1508
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: little bit at the end of that interview in our

1509
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: previous second segment, and we appreciate Art Stableton joining us

1510
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: from the record, and we haven't talked about that much

1511
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: over the course of this two hours. And I think

1512
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: Art hit one part of it that I want to

1513
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: double down on having the two interchangeable safeties in Nubud

1514
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: and Holland and another veteran the debo. The whole point

1515
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: of Shane Bowen's defense is the ability to disguise right

1516
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: and do stuff pre stap and post snap, to oppose,

1517
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: to confuse opposing teams and that you know, Benba don't

1518
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 1: break type of style of defense. You need that that

1519
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: forces takeaways that make things more difficult on third downs.

1520
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 1: The problem was last year with so many young guys

1521
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: that were playing in their first and second year. They're

1522
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: just trying to figure ou how to run the defense normal.

1523
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: You can't give all that extra stuff to the Skies.

1524
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: Now they're gonna be able to do that. That's going

1525
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: to help number two. And talking again, I mentioned it before,

1526
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: did around fifty interviews earlier this week. They'll be airing

1527
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 1: on the Johnsonville podcast over the course of the next month.

1528
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: Go check it out. Almost all the defensive players I

1529
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: talked to made the point that they felt like Shane

1530
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: Bowen has added more pages to the book and the

1531
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: added talent on defense is allowing him to do a

1532
01:10:55,880 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: lot more things, whether it is unique and creative defensive

1533
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: front alignments. Yeah, but also mixing in some more press

1534
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: man on the back end with Paul Sadadebo, Tay Banks,

1535
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: Drew Phillips. He has more guys he can trust back there.

1536
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 1: With those additions. Those guys know how to play pressman.

1537
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: They're built to play pressman. So I think, and again

1538
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 1: we'll see what the results are. This is it's very

1539
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: easy to be sunny about things in the spring. Okay,

1540
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 1: we get that, but I think there's a chance for

1541
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: this defense to be pretty pretty good seeing what's happening

1542
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: up front and what's happening on the back end.

1543
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 2: You know, John, there were many times last year when

1544
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:40,799
Speaker 2: people outside the building were questioning Shane Bowen's defense because

1545
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 2: they got gashed Bible run.

1546
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: John Maris did it after the season, no doubt, no doubt,

1547
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: whoa I was going earlier than well, yeah, I'm just saying,

1548
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: gash Bible run and then gave up too many big plays, right,

1549
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: and they couldn't get off the field when they needed

1550
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: to and by the way, big plays in the run

1551
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: game too.

1552
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 3: Well.

1553
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, So so John Marris is after the season that

1554
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: you know, that's gotta stop, right.

1555
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 3: So what happens. They go out and they sign Robertson Harris,

1556
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 3: they signed Ledbetter, They signed Golston along the front, They

1557
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 3: go and they draft Abdul Carter. They go and they

1558
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 3: spend big money on Holland and on a debo. They

1559
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 3: were incredibly aggressive in going out and getting guys who

1560
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 3: were not just gonna be depth chart guys, but guys

1561
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 3: who are going to start.

1562
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 2: And have a big impact on this defense. From the

1563
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 2: very second that they signed the free agents along the

1564
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: defensive line, the three guys I mentioned just before. It

1565
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 2: was obvious to me, and remember I always talk about

1566
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: the spider web, how all the strands are connected. It

1567
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 2: was very obvious to me that by increasing not only

1568
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: the talent level but the versatility of the defensive line,

1569
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 2: you could now expand the playbook with your front seven

1570
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 2: and in turn expand the kinds of things you can

1571
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 2: do with your secondary. It was elementary. The Giants have

1572
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 2: decided to add more ingredients to the soup because they

1573
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: wanted to have more flavor.

1574
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: Now, to get to the pass rush and do all

1575
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: those creative things in the secondary, you have to stop

1576
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: the run first. And that's the one thing, no doubt,

1577
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: we have zero idea about right now. They barely ran

1578
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: the ball in spring. There's no pads on we have.

1579
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 1: We can't tell you that the run defense again is

1580
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: going to be better, except for the fact they have

1581
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: better players and that should help them in that regard.

1582
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: But we have no idea. If the run defense is

1583
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: gonna be better, and if the run defense isn't better,

1584
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 1: and by the way, if the offense isn't better, to

1585
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: give the defense some leads where you can do those

1586
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: types of things. Rest that too, those advantages They're not

1587
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: gonna disappear, but their impact is going to be muted

1588
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. So that's very important as we talk

1589
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: about this whole thing. To your point in terms of

1590
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: it being all of spider Web, and.

1591
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: In terms of the run defense, I do believe the

1592
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 2: plan is because the Giants.

1593
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 3: Have added some town and some experience up front.

1594
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 2: Bobby o'karake is a run and hit linebacker. He needs

1595
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: some freedom to attack either the trenches, to attack the

1596
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: gaps or for that matter, to roam between the tackles

1597
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 2: or to get outside. He needs space to run and roam.

1598
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 2: What did we see last year with him? He was

1599
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 2: constantly getting blocked by the laundry guys were getting to

1600
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 2: the second level from the offensive side of the ball

1601
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: and getting hats on him and knocking him backwards or

1602
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 2: out of the play. If the Giants defensive line can

1603
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 2: hold their own with the line of scrimmage, they absorb

1604
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 2: a lot of those blocks. And now Bobby is free

1605
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 2: to do what he does and what we saw him

1606
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 2: do two years ago was pretty darn good.

1607
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: And talking to Eggs John of Grogu, the Giants linebacker coach,

1608
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: he said even right before that, okay, ok injury last year.

1609
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: While Bobby and Bobby has said this openly, he was

1610
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: not the way he played at the start of the

1611
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 1: year last year.

1612
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 3: Snumbers were down right.

1613
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes it was getting blocked sometimes. He

1614
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: was also not in the gap quick enough and not

1615
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: the right gap quick enough. He really thought he was

1616
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: hitting his stride right before he got hurt. And I

1617
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: talked to Bobby and him and both eggs have said

1618
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: that he feels much more comfortable to defense. They think

1619
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: it's going to be better this year because that's going

1620
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: to be a big part of this right because the

1621
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: defense that does have the talent and the ability to

1622
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: be great. But can all those factors that I talked about,

1623
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 1: stopping the run, getting leon offense field position, being helped

1624
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: by the offense, staying on the field a little bit longer.

1625
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: Can they do all that to let the defense take

1626
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: advantage of the special talent that they've added. Is something

1627
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: wolf to wait and see, because we don't have the

1628
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: answer to that yet.

1629
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 2: No, that is one of the biggest unanswered questions that

1630
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 2: truly we were unable to pick up any clues about.

1631
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 2: That's what you get with no contact practices. You're going

1632
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 2: to have some things you just can't check a box on.

1633
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: Well, let's go through our biggest questions leaving the spring

1634
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: brought to you by Sloman's. So we talked about that, Paul,

1635
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: What else are you thinking about heading into training camp here?

1636
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how they split the running back

1637
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: duty's up. Because they've used all the guys with the ones, twos,

1638
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 1: and threes, it's really been a pure even rotation between

1639
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: the guys. I like the fact they're throwing it to

1640
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 1: them a lot more, especially down the field. Sure, that's

1641
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: been fun to see. I want to see how they

1642
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: split that running back room up. I think that's gonna

1643
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: be fun.

1644
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,560
Speaker 2: I think, to be honest, John, the talent level on

1645
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 2: the team is so much better all around.

1646
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 3: It's more balanced. Yeah, and it's deeper.

1647
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: Tight end, by the way, is the same deal? How

1648
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 1: they use all these tight ends? Same same question?

1649
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,520
Speaker 3: What about after the top four wide receivers?

1650
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the I think Smith Marshet's five because of

1651
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: the Special Team's ability to the who's the next games?

1652
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 2: But Ford Wheaton's got to be on this team because

1653
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 2: of his Special Team's ability.

1654
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: What if Zach Pascal or little Jordan Humphrey and their

1655
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: special teams ability.

1656
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 3: Nots them off. So now what do you do.

1657
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:49,600
Speaker 1: That's a great competition.

1658
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 3: Okay, but that's see, and this is.

1659
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: Better competition than we've had here at the back end

1660
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: of via petition groups in a long time.

1661
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 2: It really is that very conversation that we can have

1662
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 2: me means the Giants are.

1663
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 3: A much better team.

1664
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 1: I think, Paul, guys, the Giants cut in August this

1665
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: year are going to get picked up by other teams.

1666
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 1: That has not been the case for some time.

1667
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 3: There will be some very tough decisions. Let's put it out.

1668
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 2: I agree, And look, how about we just go to

1669
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 2: the most simplistic one of all. Do we know as

1670
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,719
Speaker 2: we sit here tonight, who the best five offensive linemen

1671
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 2: are going to be?

1672
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: You might have an idea, we don't think, Yeah, yeah,

1673
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 1: you do?

1674
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 4: You know?

1675
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 5: The five?

1676
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? And obviously that's always a question heading into camp

1677
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: because we haven't seen guys in pads yet. Can Evan

1678
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: Neal step up and steal the guard spot away?

1679
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, there seems to be some

1680
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,440
Speaker 3: optimism that he is right in the thick of the competition,

1681
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 3: but we don't know how that's gonna solve itself.

1682
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: And I do think there is some comfort in having

1683
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: that same group of five that started last year and

1684
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: played particularly well. Like you talked to Jermain I Luminoi's like, yeah,

1685
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: we were still getting better, like there was still wins

1686
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 1: fars to continue to improve with that first, you know,

1687
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 1: six game before Andrew Thomas got hurt. So you're right,

1688
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: that's the question. Who's gonna be your starting five offensive line?

1689
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: And if I have to bet right now, I would

1690
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 1: think it's the same five to start last year. But look,

1691
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: I think Evan the only these guys have have a

1692
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,719
Speaker 1: chance to slide in and win one of those spots.

1693
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: Well off to wait and.

1694
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 2: See, especially when you consider Greg Van Rohten has been

1695
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 2: in this league for a long time.

1696
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, mostly as a backup. Now.

1697
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 2: We played well for the Giants last year. In fact,

1698
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 2: he was the only guy on the offense who played

1699
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 2: every snap. But at the same time, the sands and

1700
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 2: the hour glass have fallen.

1701
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 3: On him too. Can I guarantee you that he's a

1702
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 3: starting guard on this team opening day? I can't do

1703
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:35,759
Speaker 3: that yet.

1704
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: As a guarantee. No, I would not guarantee that.

1705
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 2: So you know there are questions all over wide receiver,

1706
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 2: tight end, running back, offensive line.

1707
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 3: The good news is most.

1708
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: Of the questions I think are on offense, though I

1709
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 1: think defense we have a pretty good field for a lot.

1710
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Now, there'll be some tough decisions

1711
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: in the back end of the defensive line. There will

1712
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 1: be where you have to make some real tough call.

1713
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 5: There will be.

1714
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 3: But the beauty of it is, John, we're not asking

1715
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 3: about who's gonna fill that giant hole in the starting lineup.

1716
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: Correct, I mean, I think starting cornerback right, who's the

1717
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: starter across from you know, Paul citd demo, Brian Dable was.

1718
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,879
Speaker 1: They tried to really get him down on who's the start.

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01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 2: To get him to say something he wouldn't.

1720
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: Well, that's what Brian David was pressed. He's very good

1721
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: at what he does, so I don't think, you know,

1722
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: he basically said it's gonna be a competition between banks

1723
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: and flopped for that spot. Frankly, Flott has done nothing

1724
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 1: to lose that competition. He's in a nice spring.

1725
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 4: See.

1726
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 2: I do think, as Art Stapleton alluded to during his call,

1727
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a real competition. I think it's

1728
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 2: a perception that they're putting in Tay Banks's mind because

1729
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 2: they want him to believe he has to be pushed.

1730
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 2: Maybe I believe what more than I believe it's a

1731
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 2: real competition for attack.

1732
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: His flot's been very good.

1733
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 3: As you know. I've been a flat guy since the

1734
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 3: first day he walked on the campus, and I like.

1735
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 1: The fact that they're basically only having him play outside now.

1736
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,759
Speaker 1: The flip flopping in the slot is his best position,

1737
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: and always let's see if he can stay healthy. That's

1738
01:19:58,040 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: the other problem with him. He has not been able

1739
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: to stay healthy when he's playing a lot of snaps.

1740
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,759
Speaker 2: As much as I am a flat guy, I'm also

1741
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 2: with Tay Banks guy first, and I do believe that

1742
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 2: this is more of a perception and a thing to Tay, like, hey,

1743
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 2: you've been up and down for two years, don't get

1744
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 2: too cushy. And by the way, hey you don't get

1745
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: a guaranteed starting job. I think they're kind of prodding it,

1746
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 2: but I don't think the competition is quite as real

1747
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:23,959
Speaker 2: as being perceived.

1748
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: I wish I could say some really nice things, or

1749
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 1: even some bad things about Tay Banks the when he

1750
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: did in the spring. Here's the problem. They rarely threw

1751
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: at him, right. I was talking to Tay about that

1752
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: in one of those interviews that I mentioned, and he's like,

1753
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm texting Russell Wilson time to throw at me more

1754
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:39,600
Speaker 1: so I can make plays on the ball. They just

1755
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: really didn't throw in his direction a ton.

1756
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 2: We had that conversation, and one of the things that

1757
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 2: I that I've always talked about, especially in the spring

1758
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 2: passing camp type drills, is that you know, the things

1759
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 2: that stick out are usually the negative things. As long

1760
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 2: as you avoid those, you're gonna be okay.

1761
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 1: Usually if you don't mention a quarterback's name, that's a go.

1762
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 3: It's kind of like her offensive line.

1763
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: If you're not talking about them, that usually needs They're

1764
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 2: just doing their business, all right.

1765
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1774
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Speaker 1: you for being with us. We have about twelve minutes

1775
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,799
Speaker 1: to go. Here it's time to hear from another Giants player.

1776
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: This time is Jalen Hiatt. Brought to you by quick Check,

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Speaker 1: Official sub of the New York Football Giants. Had a

1778
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: chance to talk to Jalen or in the week. Here's

1779
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:45,600
Speaker 1: our conversation. Dale, what's going on?

1780
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 10: Man doing good? Man doing good?

1781
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 5: Blessed to be here.

1782
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 1: So it's been a lot of fun watching you in

1783
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: the spring. Has it been as much fun working in

1784
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 1: the spring has been watching.

1785
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 11: It's been fun, you know, getting back on the field

1786
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 11: you know again, you know, being with new guys, you know,

1787
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 11: with Russ and uh, you know, other guys that we

1788
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 11: brought in from preigency or the draft, and you know,

1789
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 11: just being there with him and uh to see what

1790
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 11: type of team we can be, you know, this year

1791
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 11: and uh, you know, developing that relationship.

1792
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 1: It seems like you've really developed a good relationship with

1793
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. What Is it about the way he's approached you?

1794
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 1: This first press conference he mentioned you he's single jet

1795
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: as somebody who's looking forward to working to What has

1796
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: it been like doing that relationship with him?

1797
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's been good. Uh.

1798
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 11: You know, Russellill, he's a he's a true, true pro

1799
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 11: And how he goes about his business, how he goes

1800
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 11: about his day and for me, just you know, being

1801
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,440
Speaker 11: around that, you know, trying to see you know, his consistency.

1802
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 10: Uh see how he works every day and uh, just

1803
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 10: a train.

1804
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 11: Uh, you know, change myself and change how I think

1805
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 11: and you know my mentality, you know when I step

1806
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 11: on that field.

1807
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: One thing all the receivers have said is that he

1808
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: lets you know and he's very clear about what he

1809
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 1: wants from you guys, what he wants you to do

1810
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 1: with how he wants you to do it. What does

1811
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: that mean in practice when you're right there on the field.

1812
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean it's all it's all time, and it's

1813
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 11: all time and you know, you know, being in the

1814
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 11: right spot, uh, you know when he wants you there.

1815
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 11: Trusting you know, it's all about trust, you know, you know,

1816
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 11: can you trust your receivers?

1817
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 10: Can you trust your quarterback? And you know, for a

1818
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 10: quarterback perspectives, you know, can the receiver it be in

1819
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 10: the spot that I want him at? And for a receiver,

1820
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 10: you know, perspective is if I'm getting open, can I

1821
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 10: get the ball?

1822
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 1: You know?

1823
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 11: And once those two sides are working, you know, that's

1824
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 11: when the relationship you know, continues to build.

1825
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 10: So that's what I'm working on.

1826
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: What were your big goals just heading into this offseason,

1827
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: trying to get back and be.

1828
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 5: A better player?

1829
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1830
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 11: Uh, for me, it's just consistency, being disciplined, making the

1831
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 11: players that come to me, you know, and once you

1832
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 11: do that, more opportunities, you know, they come.

1833
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 10: So that's that's really my mindset.

1834
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: I'm sure you heard what your teammate Darius said. He said,

1835
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: I think Jay will put on fifteen to twenty pounds

1836
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: of muscle in the off season. I'm like, that's it's

1837
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: a lot. Do you want to share how much you

1838
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: did add if at all?

1839
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1840
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 10: I mean I played at.

1841
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 11: Like one seventy one seventy one last year about now,

1842
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 11: so really, yeah, I'm telling you that's what That's what

1843
01:23:59,320 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 11: darkness does to you.

1844
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 10: It changes.

1845
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 1: Yep, you haven't lost any speed though.

1846
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 10: Oh now, speed stay there.

1847
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 11: But for me, it's just uh, you know, learning to

1848
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 11: run out this way, learning to uh, you know, play faster,

1849
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 11: play bigger, play stronger through contact. And you know, I

1850
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 11: felt like I was one of the things that I

1851
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 11: need to work on from last season.

1852
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 10: Just felt like, uh, just felt weak. So just had

1853
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 10: to get stronger.

1854
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 1: I think that's fantastic. You mentioned trying to play through contact.

1855
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 1: Now in the spring, there's not as much as that, right,

1856
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 1: there's no pads. It's not really as much contact. You're

1857
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing how this will translate once the

1858
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: pads do come on. You know, they giant to bring

1859
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: a pulse in the debo. That guy's a freaking monster.

1860
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: He's like too ten Like, no, for sure using that

1861
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: in the summer.

1862
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 10: Yeah, for sure.

1863
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 11: You know, like you said, you know right now it's

1864
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 11: all about you know, developing relationships and you know, learning

1865
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 11: your teammates.

1866
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 10: And you know this really in the end of the

1867
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 10: real thing.

1868
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 11: Yet, you know, when training camp comes back and you

1869
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 11: know about five weeks, you know that's when things start,

1870
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 11: you know, really really start kicking in and uh preseason

1871
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 11: and obviously you know the season, so you know, I'm

1872
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 11: really that's what I'm looking forward to I've been looking

1873
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 11: forward to the season since the last game of last year, so, uh,

1874
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 11: it's been a long time, but it's coming now.

1875
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: I'm not tracking this every play, but I'm out here

1876
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: watching every practice, and my sense is that they're moving

1877
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: at all the receivers around a little bit more. Right,

1878
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm seeing you. I saw you inside a little bit more.

1879
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 1: What has that been like moving to a lot of

1880
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: the different spots, So just.

1881
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 11: You know, I had a good conversations with Dave's and

1882
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 11: Joe Shane about, uh, you know, have the last year,

1883
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 11: you know, what we can do to you know, have

1884
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 11: a better you know year three, you know for me

1885
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 11: going to my year three, And that was one of

1886
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 11: things that you know, I know I pointed out was,

1887
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 11: you know, I want to move around. Don't want to

1888
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:40,759
Speaker 11: just stay on the outside. You know, I play slide

1889
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 11: at Tennessee, and uh, you know, I just want to

1890
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 11: feel that slide again and at the same time still

1891
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 11: play outside. You know, just moved me around so you

1892
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 11: know you can get get in the game, feel the game.

1893
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 11: Uh So that's really that's really what my mentality is,

1894
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 11: and just being there, being being in the right spots,

1895
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 11: that you know, rest wants me in or whoever the

1896
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 11: quarterback is, and just trying to develop that trust, you

1897
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 11: know with the quarterbacks.

1898
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 10: And also to my.

1899
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 3: Coaches, why do you like playing in the slot?

1900
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: Uh?

1901
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 10: You know, for me, it's just that's that's I'm just

1902
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 10: used to it.

1903
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 9: Uh.

1904
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 11: You know, I played slot for three years at ten

1905
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 11: Tennessee and you know, obviously played it in high school.

1906
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 10: Uh. You know, my first year playing outside was you know,

1907
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:17,600
Speaker 10: time I got to league. So just took me a

1908
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 10: little minute.

1909
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 11: To the jest because you know, sliding outside receivers two

1910
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 11: different things. But uh, you know, for me, it's just uh,

1911
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 11: you know, I'm comfortable with both sides, you know, being

1912
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 11: outside of inside. It's just I just love moving around

1913
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 11: because you know, you get to see the matchup, you

1914
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 11: get to see what's on, you get to see if

1915
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 11: his man to see it's his own. You know, you

1916
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 11: go against safeties, and not only that, you can feel,

1917
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 11: you can feel the game, feel the speed.

1918
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 10: So you know, that's that's that's probably why.

1919
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, Paul, that's what he did at Tennessee,

1920
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 1: as he mentioned, now he used a slot guy there,

1921
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 1: so he's getting back into his comfort zone. He's off

1922
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage a little bit. It's all tougher

1923
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: for teams to jam him at the line out one

1924
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,799
Speaker 1: ninety four. That might not be as a big problem anymore,

1925
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:56,759
Speaker 1: but it'll give a little bit more of a runway.

1926
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 1: You get some mismatches in there to use his speed.

1927
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: And I know there was some talk that you know,

1928
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: he was very unhappy than the last year. Sure seems

1929
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 1: like they had some birthday productive conversations with the coach

1930
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: and the GM after the year for how they could

1931
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: use him better to be a better player of the

1932
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 1: following year, which is what you want.

1933
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 2: I've always seen and talked to him during the off season, and.

1934
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,719
Speaker 3: He is a workahole. He's always trying to get better,

1935
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 3: great attitude.

1936
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 2: I yeah, I don't know where those those things came from,

1937
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: but I will say this, if he can get things

1938
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 2: to click, and they decided now that maybe playing some

1939
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 2: inside could be really exciting for him.

1940
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 3: Think of this now, two by two set, all right,

1941
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 3: Robinson and Hyatt as your two slot guys on either side,

1942
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 3: neighbors and Slayton on the outside.

1943
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 5: Good not bad.

1944
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 1: And that's coming from Paul Latino, who never wants to

1945
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: see four wide receivers on the field at the same time.

1946
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta you gotta get heard of a double

1947
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 2: tight end every once in a while, don't you, John,

1948
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:51,759
Speaker 2: You do, but it should be exciting.

1949
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 1: And look, people forget that when Jalen Hyatt came out

1950
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 1: of the head to see the reason he dropped to

1951
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 1: the third round in that draft was because look that

1952
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: Henna see josh Hipel's system. It's very rudimentary. They don't

1953
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:04,759
Speaker 1: do a whole lot. You're off the line of screams.

1954
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 1: You don't get jammed, you don't face press, you don't

1955
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 1: run a full route trade. Now he's taken to the

1956
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 1: route stuff pretty well. He's gotten better at that and

1957
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 1: I think that's come along fast. But you know, dealing

1958
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: with the physicality and stuff, and it's gonna take some

1959
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: time with Jalen. Hopefully if he gets enough snaps, then

1960
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. It's a good room, it's a

1961
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: deep room. This gonna be a breakout yere for it.

1962
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 3: If it clicks for him. It takes the Giants passing

1963
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 3: game to.

1964
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,480
Speaker 2: Another level because it also opens things up for other receivers.

1965
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: You got the speed of Hyatt and Slayton. It's gonna

1966
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 1: be tough for the double team nighbors right, without a doubt,

1967
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,600
Speaker 1: so it'll be a lot of fun. That's all the

1968
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: time we have today. Thanks for being with us in

1969
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:41,360
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1970
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,040
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1971
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: York Football Giants Great show. We thank all of our guests,

1972
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:50,759
Speaker 1: including our Stapleton four fall to Tino. I am John Schmelt.

1973
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 1: Giants are back in training camp again. They were put

1974
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:54,520
Speaker 1: on July twenty.

1975
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 2: Seconds thanks to Zoo and our Zuoman.

1976
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 1: Back in the shop and we'll talk to you a

1977
01:28:58,520 --> 01:28:59,759
Speaker 1: little bit and have a good one, folks,