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Speaker 2: That's terrible. Yeah, And you.

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Speaker 1: Know, the dad should have been angry at the kid,

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Speaker 1: it all over the airwaves. But now you've come around

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Speaker 2: Kill the fatted calf.

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Speaker 3: Let's throw a.

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Speaker 1: Party because finally you've sort of seen the light. Would

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Speaker 3: So? Yeah, it's been, it's been. It's been very life

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Speaker 3: changing to see this change perspective. I haven't changed that

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Speaker 2: However, you do not like all that came with it, right,

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Speaker 3: See, here's the thing. I think the twelve team actually

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Speaker 3: It's still because all the pushback I heard from you

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Speaker 3: If we go to sixteen, if we go to fourteen,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so twelve's okay if you do the reworked seeding

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Speaker 3: Did, even that I don't have. I think it's common

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Speaker 1: So the one thing, all right, So what you and

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Speaker 1: Didn't hurt the regular season. We went one go around,

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Speaker 2: Right, So you've heard the talk.

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Speaker 1: We're in such a weird place right now because you

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Speaker 2: But then you get.

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Speaker 1: And everybody has a motivation behind the words that come

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Speaker 2: So don't I want to see where you are on this.

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Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent with you. Keep Congress far away

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen that, Like, I have not seen college

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Speaker 2: And so I cannot believe I found myself saying that.

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Speaker 2: And I think more and more.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the only thing that really blanketly returns things

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's almost in Congress, whatever it would be.

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Speaker 3: That's right. I would so, And it's not blaming anybody

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Speaker 3: But you are so right, no one is looking out

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Speaker 3: different is the tradition, the history, the passion which is there,

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Speaker 3: And three weeks into it, we've already seen just you know,

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Speaker 3: But I get all the arguments against Congress because it's

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Speaker 3: But who's to say that Carson Beck can't make four

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Speaker 3: it really the only solution is to have the payers

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Speaker 3: because then you've got to have a union, You've got

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Speaker 1: You get to look, you know me, We're kind of

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Speaker 3: even I mean I have a daughter who works at

436
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Speaker 3: Chick fil A. She puts in more than twenty hours

437
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Speaker 3: a week there at Like, why do they still have

438
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Speaker 3: that restriction on him? That to me is going to

439
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,439
Speaker 3: be a big challenge because one of the things that

440
00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,359
Speaker 3: gave Bill Belichick an edge in the NFL was not

441
00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,520
Speaker 3: the players. That he had a lot of schemes which

442
00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,520
Speaker 3: require that much more time and preparation in the in

443
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Speaker 3: the film room, on the practice field, and he's not

444
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,160
Speaker 3: gonna have that luxury. So that's one of those acclamations

445
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,639
Speaker 3: that he's gonna have to adjust to really quickly. And

446
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,720
Speaker 3: he's got Steve Belichick, his son coming who was at

447
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 3: Washington last year, so we'll be able to help some

448
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 3: of that. But if you asked me to put this

449
00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,159
Speaker 3: has one of those wider variants like picks that I

450
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,600
Speaker 3: could see a four win season, which would be a disaster.

451
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Speaker 3: And then you talk about the emails that public outing

452
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 3: was receiving before. Can you imagine if that happens. But

453
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Speaker 3: I also like, there's a piece to me that's still

454
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,920
Speaker 3: in the back of my mind is like, the dude

455
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,640
Speaker 3: is an incredible coach, like and he might have an

456
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,120
Speaker 3: edge against some of these offensive coordinators who haven't seen

457
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Speaker 3: some of the stuff that he's gonna throw out him.

458
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Speaker 1: All Right, A lot of things that I get asked

459
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 1: about you are really it's a disappointing answer. So so

460
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 1: a lot of people think that the online world is

461
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,200
Speaker 1: the real world. And I'm not saying the online version

462
00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,120
Speaker 1: of you is fake. Contrary to popular beliefs. It's very

463
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 1: sad sometimes.

464
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 2: But it's very real. Here's here's the disappointing part.

465
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 1: When we go on the road. None of the haters

466
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 1: show up. When we go on the road. When I'll

467
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 1: walk up and down a sideline with you, it's just hey, Danny, Hey,

468
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 1: can I get a picture with my kid now? Unbeknownst

469
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Speaker 1: to you, Like, that's the same dude trashing you on

470
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Speaker 1: Tuesday afternoon.

471
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Speaker 3: Oh for sure.

472
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Speaker 1: So walk people through basically day in your life when

473
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Speaker 1: you're out in public. Truly, how rare it is that

474
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Speaker 1: you have a nasty encounter.

475
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Speaker 3: Oh, it's extremely rd It never happened. I don't know

476
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Speaker 3: if I've ever had somebody come up to me some

477
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 3: of them, Actually, somebody will, but they'll be a smile

478
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,199
Speaker 3: on their face, like they're not going to be truly

479
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 3: as angry as they are when they're in front of

480
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 3: their keyboard and they're just slamming you, telling you they

481
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 3: wish your kids I cancer, Like you know, because I've

482
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 3: hades happening, and you've had some of those death threats

483
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 3: and stuff that happened, but usually and that's I used

484
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 3: to try to go back and forth and win over people,

485
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 3: and then I was like, I just don't have time

486
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 3: to do it because there were so many of them

487
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 3: that were coming through. But I do think that's the

488
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Speaker 3: one thing I love is getting a reaction out of

489
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Speaker 3: somebody and seeing the emotional response from them, because I

490
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 3: feel the passion of college football fans, right, I mean,

491
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 3: like the SEC that is the one thing. I've never

492
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Speaker 3: questioned that they have the most passionate fan base in

493
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Speaker 3: college football. It's not even close.

494
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Speaker 1: That was the thing two years ago Florida State, the

495
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Speaker 1: Jordan Travis injury the end of the year. I mean,

496
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 1: everyone went really really tribal on that.

497
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Speaker 2: No punt intended.

498
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 1: Everyone went really tribal, and it was it was either

499
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Speaker 1: you're on the side of committee got it right, committee

500
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 1: got it wrong. But both sides looked at the other

501
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: and said unequivocally like you are brainwashed, You are in

502
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Speaker 1: complete loser if you.

503
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Speaker 2: Disagree with me on this.

504
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Speaker 1: And I looked at that and it sounded like it

505
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Speaker 1: was fence riding because I was of the opinion two

506
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Speaker 1: weeks before you can't leave Florida State out.

507
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Speaker 2: I don't care if he's hurt.

508
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Speaker 1: You can't be arbitrarily deciding as a committee you know

509
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Speaker 1: the value of a player. Okay, well, then I'll never

510
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Speaker 1: forget where I was sitting. I was sitting in our

511
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: studio and I'm scrolling Twitter and there's a headline chair

512
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Speaker 1: of the playoff committee says most deserving is not even

513
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Speaker 1: in our lexicon. So he changes the protocol on the

514
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: fly for the playoff. So I listen to that and say,

515
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Speaker 1: that makes no sense to me.

516
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Speaker 2: I hate that.

517
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Speaker 1: However, if that's the protocol, that's the protocol. I'm now

518
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Speaker 1: going to change my mind based off what that guy said.

519
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Speaker 1: They got it right. Bama should be in because I

520
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 1: think they're the better team at the end.

521
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Speaker 2: Of the year.

522
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Speaker 1: You could not have that take, like I could not

523
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Speaker 1: articulate that quickly enough before. A lot of the Florida

524
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Speaker 1: State people said you're a sell out, like you're bought

525
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: and paid for by a network. I have no clue

526
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Speaker 1: which network, but like, you're bought paid for by a network.

527
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Speaker 1: And then the other side was like, if you took

528
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Speaker 1: the Florida State side, it was you gotta be kidding me.

529
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Speaker 2: You think they could even compete without Jordan Travis.

530
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Speaker 1: I love the whole part of it, is my point,

531
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Speaker 1: because it was the passion. It wasn't nobody said who cares.

532
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Speaker 2: I actually was.

533
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Speaker 3: Pretty pleasantly surprised from a lot of Miami fans, Florida fans,

534
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 3: Bama fans who have never liked me, you know, like

535
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: I've always been a little bit harder on Bama that

536
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 3: were actually like, oh, this is awful. You guys are

537
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Speaker 3: getting screwed. And I would say the responses that I

538
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: got were almost eighty twenty towards the Florida State got screwed.

539
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 3: And I even now, like even today when we're having

540
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: this discussion, you've seen people reference that example of how

541
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 3: the committee got it wrong, you know, and who knows,

542
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 3: you never know. I still think Florida State could have

543
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,479
Speaker 3: beaten Michigan in the Rose Bowl because of their defense

544
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 3: even without Jordan Travis. I think their defense was that confidant.

545
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 3: But I remember I was very confident that Florida State

546
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 3: would get in until I was watching the ACC championship

547
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 3: game and here, and I'm not blaming Jesse and Joe

548
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 3: Testitor that we're calling that game, but the offense was

549
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 3: so bad and it was unfolding, and it was just

550
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: a gross game that was a bad TV product. That's

551
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Speaker 3: the moment I was like, uh oh. I was like,

552
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 3: uh oh, this may not go our way. And I

553
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 3: still still was like holding out that sliver of hope.

554
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: When the committee actually made their announcement and you heard

555
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: all the different arguments that were taking place, but on

556
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 3: their I mean, I went from don't worry as long

557
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: as we win the acc we're in to uh oh,

558
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 3: this is really gonna happen, and sure enough it did.

559
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: You're in a no win.

560
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Speaker 3: To me, you're I wish it was Miami. I wish

561
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 3: it was I wish it was another team, because I

562
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: promise you that was a principal based opinion that I had.

563
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: It wasn't a Florida State up based opinion. It was

564
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Speaker 3: this is wrong that we are because I football is

565
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 3: the greatest team sport that we know, and at the time,

566
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 3: you really had all the great examples of backup stepping up,

567
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Speaker 3: whether it was Ohio State with a third string quarterback

568
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 3: in card L Jones exactly recentness, but even historically going

569
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: back even further, of how players that we never saw

570
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: all of a sudden elevating their play, but more importantly,

571
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 3: the players around them elevating their play, whether it was

572
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 3: a defensive, dominant performance or you know, running back steps up,

573
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 3: everybody else steps up. That was what was disinheartened to me.

574
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Speaker 3: And to see people that I really respected as analysts,

575
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 3: and not that I lost respect from them, but just

576
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 3: shocked that they would have the opinion that we think

577
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: they're not as good because they weren't going to be

578
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: as good, but they could be different and still have success. Yeah,

579
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 3: and people just changing and saying no, we can't have

580
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: that team. And I do think I think the biggest

581
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: fear was you could see that product on the stage

582
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 3: and the Rose Bowl, but like, to me, that shouldn't matter,

583
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 3: or if it's ugly or how the game looks, and

584
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 3: even god forbid, if it's a blowout, they should have

585
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,719
Speaker 3: at least gotten the chance to get that opportunity.

586
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 2: That's the whole that goes back to my point.

587
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Speaker 1: So I'm listening to I can't remember who it was,

588
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: but when they came out and they said a week

589
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: ahead of time, oh, most deserving, that's not even in

590
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Speaker 1: our lexicon.

591
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Speaker 2: That's the point where someone like me goes are you like?

592
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: Are you in? Of course, it's the lexicon.

593
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Speaker 1: But once they say that, and they've sort of reset

594
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Speaker 1: the protocol on the fly, I'm going by their protocol.

595
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Speaker 1: So when I say, hey, man, I think Bama's better

596
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: than Florida State, you're right.

597
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: They shouldn't be in the equation. They put it in

598
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: the equation. But I think go back to that play

599
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Speaker 2: by play situation.

600
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Speaker 1: You're in a no win situation, right if you're Jesse,

601
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: if you're Joe, you're in a no win situation. First off,

602
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: you got one who's a former quarterback of the University

603
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: of Florida who, like you just said, even if he's

604
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: calling it on principle, he's making comments on principle, he

605
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: will never convince Florida State fans understandably, so that you

606
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: know they're doing anything other than trying to sabotage your right.

607
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 3: And I love both those guys, like I'm friends with

608
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: both of them, works with them at ESPN, And I

609
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 3: don't think there was anything nefarious. I don't think it

610
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: was because Jesse is a Gator. I think they were voicing.

611
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 3: If I was calling the game, I would have been like, man,

612
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 3: the Committee's going to see this. This is not going

613
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: to win the press and been having the exact same

614
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: opinions that they did.

615
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: Is there a team to beat in college football this year?

616
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: I think this is the most wide open college football

617
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 3: we've seen that I can remember. There's always been at

618
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 3: least one or two teams that you were like, Okay,

619
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 3: they've got their returning quarterback, they've got a championship pedigree,

620
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 3: they've got a dominant defense, they've got a championship winning quarterbacks.

621
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Speaker 2: And that's cohesion.

622
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's all those things where it's always been there,

623
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: And I guess you could kind of make the case

624
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: that it's Penn State, but James Franklin hasn't taken that

625
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: step Back's they haven't done. Drew Aller hasn't taken that

626
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: step forward. It's a quarterback. So I love it. I

627
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 3: think this season is setting up to be one of

628
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: the more entertaining seasons that we could see. And the

629
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: thing that's really interesting is it's such a potential based preseason.

630
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 3: There's so many teams and so many quarterbacks, specifically, because

631
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: there's so many new starters that it's there's gonna be

632
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: some of them that reach that potential and they maximize it,

633
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 3: and they're gonna be a team that is there at

634
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 3: the end. There's also going to be some that don't

635
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: like if I could go down the list of guys

636
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: that were hyped up in the preseason and either weren't

637
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: even starting by week six or four, you know, or

638
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: just had disastrous years and all of a sudden, the

639
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: teams seven and fives we haven't seen it. And we're

640
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: also in a pretty unique situation where I know we've

641
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: got a couple, but there are a lot of players

642
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: that we like. We've had the luxury not luxury, I

643
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: haven't love the era, but covid we've had twenty three

644
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: and twenty four year old quarterbacks that had played multiple

645
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: years when I know it wasn't at that school, but

646
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: you at least kind of knew, all right, this is

647
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: gonna work to some extent, they're gonna be really good?

648
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: Are they gonna be great? Will Howard it's a great

649
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 3: example that got knew he was going to be pretty

650
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 3: good surrounded with that talent, and he played great this

651
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 3: past season, but you didn't feel like it was gonna

652
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: come off the rails. Now. Julian Saleen saying or Lincoln

653
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 3: knol like kind holds they who knows, Yeah, like they

654
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: may or may not be good. So like if they

655
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: that's what at all these schools, there's a bunch of

656
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: them that are like that. So I think that again

657
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: talking about North Carolina variants, the variants of what we

658
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: could see this season, as far as who is the

659
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: last team standing or even the last twelve team standing,

660
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: is pretty wild.

661
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: The contenders always had so many bullets in the chamber.

662
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: Your Georgia's, your Bama's, your Ohio States. From seven or

663
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: eight years ago, they got eight or nine offensive linemen

664
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: that could play pretty much anywhere. So many of even

665
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: the contenders. Oregon is a perfect example. They got three

666
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: of their starters on the O line coming from the portal.

667
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: If that doesn't work out, they're seasons tanked. If Ohio

668
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: State's quarterback situation, if it's just B minus C plus,

669
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: your season's tanked. You could say the same thing about

670
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: Georgia at tailback or D line. Can say the same

671
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: thing about BAMTT quarterback in several other positions.

672
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: How many can people have.

673
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: Not retrained their mind to adjust to the modern era

674
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: of college football, and how many of your real contenders.

675
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: Teams with a nine and a half or ten and

676
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: a half over under win total could have a seven

677
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: and five season, because that never used to be the case.

678
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: The floor for those teams was nine wins, and it's

679
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: not that way anymore.

680
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 3: And I do think, and probably even more, every conference

681
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: has a lot more depth. I do think that there

682
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: is more parody. I know we use that word a lot,

683
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 3: but I do think we've like we're seeing for Ohio State,

684
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: the question marks, for Oregon, the question marks. I think

685
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: I always got a pretty good addition at quarterback in

686
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: Mark Ronowski.

687
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: I know you left the FCSQB seen I do.

688
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: I mean, look at what Ward did for Miami, But

689
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 3: I do think like I do think in Nebraska's kind

690
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 3: of positioned to be a lot better, like the teams

691
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: under that, like Michigan could be a lot better, and

692
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: they should be better. Be a restaurant. More could be there.

693
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 3: But even in the SEC below Obama and that upper tier,

694
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: like in the SEC. It's interesting because I was kind

695
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: of looking at this, I think there's there's four at

696
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: the top, there's kind of four at the bottom, and

697
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: then there's this middle eight that are all I think

698
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: they're all pretty good, and without that dominance at the

699
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: top where they're good and they're in the tier by themselves,

700
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: it's a car crush.

701
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: It really is going to be bad.

702
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: And I do think the debate is going to be

703
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: even more heated this year because I don't think we're

704
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: going to see as many undefeated teams or one loss

705
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: or potentially even two loss teams as we saw last year,

706
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: where it was kind of clear cutting that was that division.

707
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a lot of speculation and

708
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: debate and conversation about teams that are nine and three,

709
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: ten and two, and with all the talk about strength

710
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 3: of schedule, it's car crack crcrash, a great way to see.

711
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,479
Speaker 1: You just stacked up the sec We were down there

712
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: in Atlanta last week. We're just like doing radio hits

713
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: and everything. It struck me how many fan bases think

714
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: last year was this appetizer to the main course this year.

715
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: Florida is that they unequivocally think they'll be better. South

716
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: Carolina thinks nine wins last year, we got Lenora's back,

717
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: will take the next step. Bama absolutely thinks they'll be

718
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: back in contention Georgia won the SEC last year, but

719
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: they kind of felt like they were down a little bit.

720
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: Texas next step is championship Ole Miss. We never should

721
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: have missed the playoff last year. We'll absolutely make it

722
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: this year. Auburn's got a rebound under Freeze. LSU's gotta

723
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: be better under Brian Kelly. With year two of that

724
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: defensive staff. There aren't enough wins to go around, so

725
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: someone's about to catch us seven and five down there.

726
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: It's probably not even a terrible team, despite what you

727
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: may say in November, they're probably not a terrible team.

728
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't think people's expectation is like recalibrated to understand

729
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: seven to five doesn't mean hot seat, or maybe it

730
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: doesn't automatically mean hot seat.

731
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: But if you're if you're if you're Kirby Smart.

732
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: That doesn't matter. You'll never be on the hot seat.

733
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: If you're Hugh Freeze, for all we know you made

734
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: all the right moves, you will not be given the

735
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: length of rope to even have time to figure it

736
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: out if you don't get it done this year.

737
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: Like when I think of the recalibration, I'm not saying

738
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: that fan bases should change their expectations.

739
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: I am what could be? I think I think they should.

740
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: They should. Oklahoma is a good example. Yeah, like Oklahoma,

741
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: Brent Ventnables hot seat, it's there there. You know, the

742
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: material comes in and they're sort of a trendy pick

743
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: and he's calling the defensive plays and they were they

744
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: were used to running through the Big twelve, right, I

745
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: mean is Texas had their moments, but a team that

746
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: was perennially ten to eleven wins.

747
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: Like they were always it was a starting point, right.

748
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: But now you go into the SEC, and I know

749
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: that was a big mantra from the SEC fans. It

750
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: was all, you guys are going to be a five

751
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: hundred team once to come here. But now that they're

752
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: in Antexas in it plus all those teams, I think

753
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: you are one hundred percent right that the expectation has

754
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: got to change. But what what salvagees a nine to

755
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: three season is a playoff spot sure, And I think

756
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: that's why you're seeing so much of the SEC code

757
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: is saying we need to we need to look at

758
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: let's go to the five plus eleven, let's have the

759
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: you know, it drives me nuts. The whole we would

760
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: want the best teams in there, and then it comes back, well,

761
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: how do you determine the best? But I do think

762
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 3: that is something why the SEC loves that model, is

763
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: that is the best model for them to potentially stack

764
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: the field.

765
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, that's why was that.

766
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: I saw a graphic and I have to be very

767
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: careful because I'm getting older and I can get got

768
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: way more easily than I could even ten years ago.

769
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: The DESPN FPI have the top eleven schedules in the country,

770
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: the toughest schedules. Was that an SEC list or was

771
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: that a national list that just so happened to have

772
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: the tough toughest eleven schedules in the country?

773
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: All SEC first, that real, Okay, I'm not going to

774
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: question the good, solidly earned reputation of the FBI.

775
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: Oh, that's not gonna be me. The answer to your

776
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: question is.

777
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: Yes, that's absolutely that one because that to me, that

778
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: that's why we're here at Big ten media Days. That's

779
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: why they are terrified of the five plus ee because

780
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: I do think that is something that the SEC is

781
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: going to be talking about all season long as strength

782
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: of schedule, which I do. I agree not all schedules

783
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: are created equal. How do you how do you quantify that?

784
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: This is where the bad faith arguments are on both sides, because,

785
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: like I look at the SEC, I think it's the

786
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: deepest league. I think on average, an SEC schedule probably

787
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: is tougher to navigate. But then they can't just say

788
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: it like that, Like they've got to issue nine pages

789
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: of propaganda packets and then look, I credit Eli Drinkwitz.

790
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: Last week you stepped on the podium and that dude

791
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: flat out said, yeah, is.

792
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: This thing on.

793
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't really care what everyone else here thinks. I'm

794
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: kind of going to do something rare. I'm going to

795
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: go out on a limb and say what I think

796
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: is best for college football. The thing about it is,

797
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: when they had their spring meetings, it sounded like there

798
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: was a lot of synergy in the AQ model, and

799
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: then they come out of destin. Once someone explained to

800
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: those coaches, here's what five plus eleven really means. You

801
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: could lose a quarter of your games and you're probably

802
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: still going to be safely in. Magically, all the coaches

803
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: and ads pushed Greg SANKI, No, we want the five

804
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: plus eleven.

805
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 2: It's absolutely in the best interest of the SEC.

806
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: At least drink said, but is it in the best

807
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: interest of college football? And then I think he had

808
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: a trank dard in his neck and he fell asleep.

809
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: How in this blows my mind that you've got the

810
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: Big twelve in the ACC who are buying into this model, Yeah,

811
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 3: which is a detriment. I think it is a detriment

812
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: to the ACC in the Big twelve, and they're it's like,

813
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: I don't I feel like they've been They've drank some

814
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 3: kool aid that Greg Zanki has sent to them to

815
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 3: have them promoting a model that is clearly going to

816
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: benefit the SEC. And you mentioned like where that ship

817
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: took place, because I was kind of on board, not

818
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 3: with the sixteen team, with the four to four, two

819
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 3: to one point or whatever, but the fourteen team. Yeah,

820
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: I was kind of on board with that because my

821
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: philosophy was the ACC and the Big twelve are going

822
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: to get screwed anyway you look at it, which I'm

823
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 3: kind of okay with. They're they're not as good as

824
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: the Big ten or of the SEC. They don't have

825
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 3: the same resources, don't have the same ability to buy

826
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: the players. So if you're gonna get screwed. At least

827
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: know how you're gonna get screwed going into it. Can

828
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 3: you have that chance with one of the one of

829
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: the at large bids to potentially get that third team,

830
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 3: so at least you know, because if you go to

831
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: five plus eleven, I think the Big twelve, I think

832
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: Bretty Ormark is gonna regret his comments because I think

833
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: they're going to be almost every single annually getting only

834
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: one team in.

835
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: Unless he knows something we don't know about their future.

836
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: There's no way it goes anyway other than what you

837
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: just said.

838
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 3: Right.

839
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: It's so weird that they've dug their heels in on that.

840
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 3: It blows my mind because I don't think it benefits

841
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 3: their leagues, and yet they've completely signed off in it

842
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 3: and even promoting it as opposed to one of them

843
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: getting because they don't want to admit what I just admitted,

844
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 3: that they're not the same as the Big ten of

845
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: the SEC, or that they're inferior they don't deserve as

846
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 3: many teams. But it's just not the reality, and I

847
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 3: think they're afraid to admit that, which I get. I mean,

848
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: we talked about earlier about to put your league the

849
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: best way you can. But I think that is the

850
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,479
Speaker 3: worst scenario, the worst possible outcome for the AECM Big Twelve.

851
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: Okay, we got to eat dinner in a second. So

852
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: I want to wrap on this. If you were to

853
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: pick one team slash coach you're the most intrigued to

854
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: watch this year, Go wherever you want with it, because

855
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,479
Speaker 1: I got one in my head.

856
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: So who is it for you?

857
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 3: One team, one coach this season.

858
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: Ideally that coach is the coach of that team.

859
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll go. I'll go one coach and one player.

860
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: I want to see James Franklin and Drew Aller because

861
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: it does feel like if it doesn't happen, now, is

862
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: it ever gonna happen? It's a window, right, And not

863
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 3: only is it a window because of what they've got

864
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: coming back, going and getting Jim Knowles, getting both running

865
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: backs back to it like it feels like because that's

866
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: what Michigan had. Remember they had a couple of players

867
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: before gone the draft, Ohio State players four gone in

868
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Speaker 3: the NFL Draft, Kitron Allen Singleton. They decided to come back.

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Speaker 3: I do think that sets up so you've got that

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Speaker 3: aspect to it, but you've also got the other top

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Speaker 3: tier in the Big Ten, other top teams with all

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Speaker 3: these question marks. Ohio State both new offensive defensive coordinators.

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Speaker 3: You've got a new quarterback. You've got them. They've lost

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Speaker 3: so many pieces, Oregon lost so many pieces. They don't

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Speaker 3: have the luxury of having a twenty five year old

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Speaker 3: quarterback again. They're breaking in somebody, dude, Michigan feels vulnerable.

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Speaker 3: They have got a huge a lot of question marks

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Speaker 3: around them. So their toughest competitors all have question marks.

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Speaker 3: Penn State has all the advantage. If they can't do

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Speaker 3: it this season, it really does make you wonder if

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Speaker 3: it'll ever happen.

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Speaker 1: So they went to what the semi final last year? Right,

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Speaker 1: here's what's so wild about that. Everything a James Franklin

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Speaker 1: hater would have said going into last year, they can still.

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Speaker 3: Say, yeah, they can be the top five.

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Speaker 1: They can still say you haven't beaten the top team.

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Speaker 1: You got a shot at Ohio State, you lost. You

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Speaker 1: got a shot in the conference title game Oregon you lost.

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Speaker 1: You got Boise and SMU served up to you. Once

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Speaker 1: you win against like a comparable opponent, you lost. So

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Speaker 1: it's all still there. And when I say window. It's

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Speaker 1: a very very unique, like college football type window. You're

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Speaker 1: not in a window you better keep your job or

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Speaker 1: anything like that.

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Speaker 2: It's not a job security kind of pressure.

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Speaker 1: It's there's like one or two things we haven't accomplished,

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Speaker 1: and this is the year to do it. I go

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Speaker 1: completely radically opposite side of the coin Texas Tech this year.

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Speaker 3: It's such a situation.

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Speaker 1: They're in the most entertaining conference in college football. I

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Speaker 1: call it America's Conference because it's so unpredictable, it's so competitive,

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Speaker 1: it's more competitively balanced than any league got there. The

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Speaker 1: money has been balanced up until.

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Speaker 2: Five minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: And Texas Tech said, well, you want to talk about

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Speaker 1: a window, there's a window that if we just have

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Speaker 1: a billionaire hanging out over here, Cody Yep, Okay, let's go.

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Speaker 2: And so they went.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that I've ever seen a coach

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Speaker 1: because you've never had the ability in college athletics to

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Speaker 1: do what they just did. And Arizona State brings virtually

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Speaker 1: everybody back, Kenny brings his entire coaching staff back, and

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech goes one hundred and eighty degrees opposite.

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Speaker 2: Clean it up, out, burn it down.

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Speaker 1: Let's not start from scratch, but let's bring a huge

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Speaker 1: amount of starting players in here, let's revamp the coaching staff,

918
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Speaker 1: and because we spent so much money on it, let's

919
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Speaker 1: just expect it.

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Speaker 2: Out of the gate to be ready to go. And

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Speaker 2: if it works that way, that's great.

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Speaker 1: History says that's not the way team sports always work out.

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Speaker 1: And so there's this weird dynamic with them too, like

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Speaker 1: if they do anything less than win the Big Twelve

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Speaker 1: this year, those people view it as a failure, right,

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Speaker 1: And it's just it's such a unique dynamic.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that we've seen that anywhere else.

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Speaker 3: I think that the portal experiment, we've seen two teams, unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: one of them is Florida State, the other one is

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Speaker 3: worked out great the season they got left out of

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Speaker 3: the playoff, and then what we see last year saw

933
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Speaker 3: two wins, one of the worst seasons in Florida State history.

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Speaker 3: The other one's Colorado. Remember Dion majored in the portal

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Speaker 3: and he it was a disaster of the first year,

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Speaker 3: and then last year they had one of their best seasons. So,

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Speaker 3: and I'm with you, I do think it tends to

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Speaker 3: take time. But unfortunately Joe mcguider doesn't have that luxury

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Speaker 3: because they are spending that money. Shahanj Rajar our colleague

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Speaker 3: this whole deep dive on him, And I was doing

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Speaker 3: was like, you know, what do you think the expectations

945
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Speaker 3: are and he said they're expecting ten wins yep, And

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Speaker 3: like anything less is a failure. And if I was

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Speaker 3: this money, yeah, you're right, we should do that. But

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Speaker 3: you make a great point about in a team sport,

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Speaker 3: moving in the right same direction, establishing a culture that

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