1
00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,760
Speaker 1: Welcome to this bye week Tuesday edition of the From

2
00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,160
Speaker 1: the Podium podcast. I'm Gabe Kolera. The Browns are off

3
00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,200
Speaker 1: for the rest of the week and they will return

4
00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,360
Speaker 1: in week ten and head to East Rutherford, New Jersey

5
00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,880
Speaker 1: to take on the New York Jets. On today's episode,

6
00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,040
Speaker 1: you'll hear from head coach Kevin Stefanski, offensive guard Joel Buttonio,

7
00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,400
Speaker 1: and defensive end Alex Wright. We'll start with head coach

8
00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,400
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, who gave an injury update following Week eight's

9
00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:30,440
Speaker 1: loss to the Patriots.

10
00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:36,200
Speaker 2: Okay, injury front Tyson Campbell's in concussion protocol, Rayshawn Jenkins

11
00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,520
Speaker 2: is dealing with a groin injury. He's really day to day.

12
00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,919
Speaker 2: Quinn Shawn Judkins is day to day with the shoulder,

13
00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,960
Speaker 2: and then Carson Schwessinger has an ankle injury. You know,

14
00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,800
Speaker 2: we'll see how he looks coming into out of the buy,

15
00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,880
Speaker 2: but I'd say that's really like a week to week

16
00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:58,040
Speaker 2: type injury. You know, obviously, like we talked about yesterday evening,

17
00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,000
Speaker 2: frustrated on a a bunch of different levels, not to

18
00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,080
Speaker 2: play our best, not to coach our best in that game,

19
00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,760
Speaker 2: and then you know, just that frustration will lead to

20
00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,880
Speaker 2: us looking at how to get better, and that's where

21
00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,760
Speaker 2: this buy will be huge for this football team. You know,

22
00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,440
Speaker 2: we still got more than half of the season left,

23
00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,000
Speaker 2: but we got to make some definitely have to look

24
00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,280
Speaker 2: at it, and as as a coaching staff, look at

25
00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,560
Speaker 2: it and find ways to set our players up for success.

26
00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,920
Speaker 2: And that's what our sole focus will be this week.

27
00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,039
Speaker 2: With that, I'll take any questions.

28
00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,160
Speaker 3: Hey, Kevin, With Carson, there's a report there's a high

29
00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,640
Speaker 3: ankle and if so, is IR a possibility for him?

30
00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to get in the specifics of it, Scott,

31
00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,479
Speaker 2: but I don't believe this will be IR okay.

32
00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,480
Speaker 3: And then is do you expect Cedric Tillman to come

33
00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:49,400
Speaker 3: back following the buy?

34
00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,080
Speaker 4: I do?

35
00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,600
Speaker 3: And last thing on that just receiver corps. How much

36
00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,200
Speaker 3: do you miss the size out there? In just a

37
00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:57,720
Speaker 3: bunch of different ways.

38
00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Listen, we would like the guys we got. Obviously

39
00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,440
Speaker 2: we have some guys are smaller, fast, that type of thing,

40
00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,920
Speaker 2: but we like the guys we got. But it would

41
00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:06,800
Speaker 2: be good to have said back.

42
00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kevin, when you talk about what you can do,

43
00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,080
Speaker 5: and yesterday you mentioned that you're going to stick with

44
00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,760
Speaker 5: with Dylan going forward. When you talk about looking at

45
00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,120
Speaker 5: every single thing, I mean is play calling? I mean like,

46
00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,200
Speaker 5: is that something that you'll look at when when you

47
00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,000
Speaker 5: think about letting Tommy have a shot at it, or

48
00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,640
Speaker 5: you know, what are some of the things that you

49
00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,160
Speaker 5: actually can do to change things over the spot?

50
00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I need to spend time on all

51
00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,320
Speaker 2: those things, Mary Kay, and I think it's by position.

52
00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,400
Speaker 2: We have to be better and we have to put

53
00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,880
Speaker 2: our players in better spots, if you will, and that

54
00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,600
Speaker 2: includes every position. So we'll look at all of it

55
00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,880
Speaker 2: this week and make a decision coming out.

56
00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,639
Speaker 6: Of the buy Kevin, you land Tommy. Throughout this of

57
00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,359
Speaker 6: kept saying we have to put our players in better positions.

58
00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,440
Speaker 6: So since you've been trying to do that since the

59
00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,800
Speaker 6: first game, can what more can be done?

60
00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,640
Speaker 2: Well? I think the big picture there, Jeff, is to

61
00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,720
Speaker 2: have success as an offense, you have to be efficient

62
00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,160
Speaker 2: in what you're doing and you have to be explosive

63
00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,800
Speaker 2: and what you're doing. In order to do that, we

64
00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,480
Speaker 2: have to put guys in certain spots, put them in

65
00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,320
Speaker 2: whatever position it may be at wide receiver, tight end,

66
00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,040
Speaker 2: running back, if you will, and find ways to maximize

67
00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,720
Speaker 2: their skill set. So when you're not having the success

68
00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,200
Speaker 2: that we need to be having and we're working towards

69
00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,200
Speaker 2: obviously we're not doing enough. So you're constantly looking at

70
00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,760
Speaker 2: different players, different ways, the routes that they can run, run,

71
00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,600
Speaker 2: concepts that they can run, So you have to continue

72
00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,320
Speaker 2: to search for those things so that you can be

73
00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,160
Speaker 2: efficient and then ultimately explosive.

74
00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,840
Speaker 7: Thank you, Yeah, Kevin, you guys seem to be somewhat

75
00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,760
Speaker 7: excited in the draft to get Dylan Gabriel in the

76
00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,600
Speaker 7: third round, and obviously he's not shown maybe some of

77
00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,320
Speaker 7: those things that you guys saw coming out of college,

78
00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:06,160
Speaker 7: just you know what's been missing in these four starts

79
00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,760
Speaker 7: as far as bringing out some of those traits that

80
00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,400
Speaker 7: really got you guys as an organization excited about him.

81
00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like you, as you know, Darryl,

82
00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,600
Speaker 2: this is playing good on offense is about eleven guys

83
00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,080
Speaker 2: on the field and us as coaches doing our job. Obviously,

84
00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,839
Speaker 2: young players will will learn in each outing that they're

85
00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,240
Speaker 2: out there. I think Dylan will continue to learn, will

86
00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:34,000
Speaker 2: continue to get better. But it's really an entire offensive

87
00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,280
Speaker 2: type of thing where we all need to be better.

88
00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,000
Speaker 7: And it seems like we're going to talk to Andrew

89
00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,480
Speaker 7: this week, but just for you, you know, going back

90
00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,600
Speaker 7: to last season and it's obviously been a difficult stretch

91
00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,760
Speaker 7: here for the organization. Just you know, how has this

92
00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,279
Speaker 7: been for you to kind of, you know, get through

93
00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,200
Speaker 7: these growing pains as you guys try and find your

94
00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:56,880
Speaker 7: footing again.

95
00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's football. There's ups and downs to a game.

96
00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,200
Speaker 2: There's ups downs to a season. We'll take a breath here, players.

97
00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,240
Speaker 2: Certainly we'll get refreshed and we'll be ready for the

98
00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,240
Speaker 2: final nine of the regular season.

99
00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,720
Speaker 8: Hey, Kevin, No, I know we've talked a lot over

100
00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,640
Speaker 8: the last several weeks about the passing game. Are you

101
00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:21,440
Speaker 8: noticing defenses starting to really really start to over over

102
00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,280
Speaker 8: overload the box? You know almost dare you to try

103
00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,239
Speaker 8: to throw deep or doing things defensively you know, because

104
00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,480
Speaker 8: of what it because of what you guys haven't been

105
00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,640
Speaker 8: able to do in that aspect of the game.

106
00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:39,200
Speaker 2: I think every game is different, Chris. Every defense has

107
00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,600
Speaker 2: has a different plan week to week. You know, sometimes

108
00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,000
Speaker 2: it can be disguised, sometimes it can be like you're

109
00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,200
Speaker 2: mentioning a seven or eight man box, but it really

110
00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,520
Speaker 2: we've seen all different types of defenses throughout the season.

111
00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,760
Speaker 9: Hey, Kevin, a few of the guys we're talking about,

112
00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,360
Speaker 9: you know, with the run kind of along those lines.

113
00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:03,279
Speaker 9: The lack of product action on early downs hurting you guys.

114
00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,000
Speaker 9: I mean, how much does that impact the play calling,

115
00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,600
Speaker 9: especially when you're facing so many third and longs even

116
00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:11,599
Speaker 9: earlier in the game.

117
00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a key to being successful on offense, Ashley,

118
00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,640
Speaker 2: is having success on early downs, whether you run or

119
00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,960
Speaker 2: pass it to either stay out of third down or

120
00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,000
Speaker 2: stay into third and manageable distances. And I think too

121
00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,920
Speaker 2: often in that game we didn't do a good enough

122
00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,080
Speaker 2: job on first down, and that led to not staying

123
00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,919
Speaker 2: on the field. The time of possession was such that

124
00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,880
Speaker 2: we weren't able to, you know, remain on the field

125
00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,320
Speaker 2: get to plays that we wanted to get to. And

126
00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,600
Speaker 2: you're really you end up running out of time there

127
00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,920
Speaker 2: if you're not doing your job on first and second down.

128
00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,920
Speaker 9: And I know you got asked about Jerry yesterday, but

129
00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,719
Speaker 9: just the fact that he didn't get a target until

130
00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,400
Speaker 9: early in the fourth quarter, like, like, what needs to

131
00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,560
Speaker 9: happen to get him involved earlier? And are you guys

132
00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,120
Speaker 9: worried at all about you know, streation with him, just

133
00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,480
Speaker 9: with how the year has gone.

134
00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm frustrated with that loss. I'm frustrated

135
00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,479
Speaker 2: that we don't get the ball to Jerry, our best

136
00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,520
Speaker 2: wide receiver, earlier in that game and throughout that game. Now,

137
00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,360
Speaker 2: are there always reasons for those type of things, Sure,

138
00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,760
Speaker 2: but it's not lost on me that Jerry is our

139
00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,040
Speaker 2: best player at that position and we have to get

140
00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,240
Speaker 2: him in the ball. And that goes back to the

141
00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,400
Speaker 2: earlier comment we talked about just making sure we have

142
00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,200
Speaker 2: our guys in the right positions, you know, whether it's

143
00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,520
Speaker 2: you know, the where they're playing, in the formation, the

144
00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,640
Speaker 2: routes we're asking, the run, et cetera, et cetera.

145
00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, Kevin, you're obviously in the bye we middle of

146
00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,680
Speaker 10: the road kind of crossroads. How do you evaluate your

147
00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,840
Speaker 10: playing a lot of young guys, but where the organization,

148
00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:51,960
Speaker 10: where the team is versus this topsy turvy AFC North,

149
00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,480
Speaker 10: you know, two games out of first place at the

150
00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,800
Speaker 10: midway point, So how do you balance that, you know,

151
00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,360
Speaker 10: with nine games to play all in all or continue,

152
00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,880
Speaker 10: you know, and just what's been.

153
00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:08,400
Speaker 2: Going on now we're all in Fred, I mean, you

154
00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,960
Speaker 2: know you are what your record says you are, so

155
00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,040
Speaker 2: we got to own it. That's where we are. But

156
00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,560
Speaker 2: we're excited about the challenge in front of us. We

157
00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,320
Speaker 2: get again. Guys will take a breath this week. But

158
00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,560
Speaker 2: then you got nine games coming up, five of them

159
00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:22,160
Speaker 2: at our place.

160
00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,800
Speaker 11: Kevin, you mentioned some of that frustration, and you guys

161
00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,680
Speaker 11: share in the frustration. Is there a balance to kind

162
00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,400
Speaker 11: of handling the frustration and not letting it go overboard,

163
00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,720
Speaker 11: but also maybe letting it fuel you trying to change

164
00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,680
Speaker 11: some things. Is there a balance and what does that

165
00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:40,080
Speaker 11: look like?

166
00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,839
Speaker 2: I think it's really so specific to all of us.

167
00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,600
Speaker 2: We know we have a job to do. The fun

168
00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,200
Speaker 2: in this business is winning. So there's the frustration that

169
00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,960
Speaker 2: comes with losing a game is very real. But how

170
00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,280
Speaker 2: you channel that and how you, like you said, use

171
00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,960
Speaker 2: it as fuel moving forward, I think is really important.

172
00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,079
Speaker 11: And then when you're doing that managing, you know how

173
00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,160
Speaker 11: guys are performing too. I think about a guy like

174
00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,480
Speaker 11: Alex Wright who says seems to have a strong year.

175
00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,440
Speaker 11: Do you kind of lean on the production of some

176
00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,079
Speaker 11: of those guys as you're trying to move forward and

177
00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,440
Speaker 11: use them as examples? Is that something that you can.

178
00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,760
Speaker 2: Do, Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, we're gonna moving forward.

179
00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,360
Speaker 2: We need our best players to play great like and

180
00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,320
Speaker 2: there's some really good moments of that throughout this season.

181
00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,120
Speaker 2: And again, we just have to as from the coaching

182
00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,040
Speaker 2: staff on down, we got to make sure that we're

183
00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,320
Speaker 2: doing our job, playing our role, putting our guys where

184
00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,360
Speaker 2: they need to be. And then, like you said, guys

185
00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,480
Speaker 2: are gonna make plays, and I think Alex is a

186
00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:42,200
Speaker 2: great example of that.

187
00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kevin, I have a couple of questions real quick,

188
00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,079
Speaker 5: if you don't mind. The first one a clip circulated

189
00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:55,000
Speaker 5: showing Miles on the sideline just whipping his helmet, you know,

190
00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,640
Speaker 5: into the ground during the game. Just wondering, you know,

191
00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,040
Speaker 5: what what you think of of an outburst like that.

192
00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,559
Speaker 5: What do you think that he was so angry about

193
00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,160
Speaker 5: in that moment. I mean, I think it may have

194
00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,920
Speaker 5: been that he got taken out of the game and

195
00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,280
Speaker 5: wanted to play, is what I think he said afterwards.

196
00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,600
Speaker 5: But I don't know what was specifically about that moment.

197
00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,800
Speaker 5: But what do you think about that sort of show

198
00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,760
Speaker 5: a frustration by him on the sideline?

199
00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, similar to what I was just saying, Mary Kay

200
00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:25,680
Speaker 2: with Cam, We're all frustrated. Obviously in those moments, we

201
00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,280
Speaker 2: want to make sure it doesn't get the best of us.

202
00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,240
Speaker 2: But with that frustration comes to resolve. And I think

203
00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,320
Speaker 2: I know Miles and I know him as a leader.

204
00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,319
Speaker 2: I know the leaders in this football team will show

205
00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:38,800
Speaker 2: that metal will show that resolve.

206
00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,640
Speaker 5: And then the other question that I had was about

207
00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:48,240
Speaker 5: Shador not playing yesterday, and I think I'm pretty sure

208
00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,720
Speaker 5: he mentioned in the locker room that it wasn't his decision,

209
00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,760
Speaker 5: and so you know, I mean if he had said

210
00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,800
Speaker 5: to you guys, hey, I want to play, I can play,

211
00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,320
Speaker 5: I mean, would that have factored into this at all

212
00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,560
Speaker 5: or what was the thinking behind that?

213
00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:05,120
Speaker 10: And how'd that go?

214
00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he obviously came in on Saturday with his back injury.

215
00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,520
Speaker 2: We were hopeful that he'd be able to move around

216
00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,120
Speaker 2: well enough to suit up on Saturday or excuse me,

217
00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,880
Speaker 2: on Sunday, but put him through a pregame warm up

218
00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,560
Speaker 2: and obviously it just didn't feel like he was ready

219
00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,280
Speaker 2: to play. Mary Kay. But he's getting better every day

220
00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,240
Speaker 2: and I'm hopeful that he'll continue to improve.

221
00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,280
Speaker 5: And if I can ask a super quick follow up

222
00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,080
Speaker 5: on that, why wouldn't you just to see if it

223
00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,080
Speaker 5: does anything to the offense, give him an opportunity to

224
00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:35,880
Speaker 5: go in there and play.

225
00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously my focus is where we are right now.

226
00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,439
Speaker 2: Mary kay, That's not my focus.

227
00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, Kevin, I apologize for asking a question I normally

228
00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:43,360
Speaker 7: asked Andrew.

229
00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,360
Speaker 2: But you're here.

230
00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,680
Speaker 7: So with the trade deadline that's coming up here, do

231
00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,240
Speaker 7: you see the team focusing maybe on move similar to

232
00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,880
Speaker 7: the Greg Newsom Tyson Campbell trade where you're more so

233
00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,199
Speaker 7: looking for getting players that can help you now as

234
00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,840
Speaker 7: opposed to picks. And then also too, what is your

235
00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,120
Speaker 7: role in those conversations when it comes to, you know,

236
00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,680
Speaker 7: looking for help that you need with the roster.

237
00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd have to ask Andrew. I'm just kidding. Yeah, listen,

238
00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,559
Speaker 2: Ab is doing his job. We talk every day about

239
00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,839
Speaker 2: opportunities that may or may not come up. I really

240
00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,760
Speaker 2: like the group we have, but I'm sure you know,

241
00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,240
Speaker 2: I know we're working hard and looking at all those avenues,

242
00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,560
Speaker 2: but I like the guys we got.

243
00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,520
Speaker 3: Kevin, how did Shuder hurt the back?

244
00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:31,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

245
00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,760
Speaker 2: Not sure, I mean nothing specific, just came in with stiff.

246
00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,440
Speaker 3: And then Miles. Have you ever seen a performance like

247
00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,760
Speaker 3: that and how unfortunate that it comes in a loss like.

248
00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,080
Speaker 2: That, well, you know that's the frustrating well among the

249
00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,199
Speaker 2: many frustrating things, is you want to celebrate a performance

250
00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,120
Speaker 2: like that. And you know I told him that that's

251
00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,120
Speaker 2: he should be very proud, and I know he we

252
00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,600
Speaker 2: win as a team, we lose as a team, and

253
00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,560
Speaker 2: it's hard to to think about that right now, but

254
00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,480
Speaker 2: that's pretty special to be able to do that.

255
00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,320
Speaker 1: Up next, here's offensive guards Old Antonio hi Joel.

256
00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:07,640
Speaker 5: My question is, Miles after the game yesterday, talked about

257
00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,959
Speaker 5: the fact that during the bye week, at some point

258
00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,560
Speaker 5: during the by he's going to try to talk to

259
00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,640
Speaker 5: coaches and players and involve himself a little bit in

260
00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,760
Speaker 5: other aspects of the team to see if there's anything

261
00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,400
Speaker 5: that he can do to try to find the fix

262
00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,200
Speaker 5: for what ails you guys. So my question to you

263
00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,160
Speaker 5: is is that something As a longtime team leader, will

264
00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,840
Speaker 5: you get involved or offer suggestions, you know, sit down

265
00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,719
Speaker 5: with Kevin or talk to the coaches yourself or how

266
00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:37,880
Speaker 5: what is your approach to that.

267
00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,600
Speaker 12: Yeah, we've you know, have ongoing discussions. We have leadership

268
00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,680
Speaker 12: meetings every week where we try and have our input

269
00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,880
Speaker 12: from some of our leaders on our team, and I

270
00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,800
Speaker 12: think we're going to do a breakdown. Today was obviously

271
00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,559
Speaker 12: the game review, but I think tomorrow we're going to

272
00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,840
Speaker 12: do a breakdown of where we're at this season, what

273
00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,080
Speaker 12: we need to work on as players, what the coaches

274
00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,280
Speaker 12: want to work on as coaches, and and you know,

275
00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,959
Speaker 12: we have the analogy today that it's a seventeen round

276
00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,800
Speaker 12: fight for us and we're you know, only at the

277
00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,559
Speaker 12: halfway point, so you know, finding any way that we

278
00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,720
Speaker 12: can we can fix things, or if we have ideas,

279
00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,480
Speaker 12: and I think Miles has played football at a high

280
00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,199
Speaker 12: level for long enough to have his opinion, and I'm

281
00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,240
Speaker 12: sure the coaches will and players, we'll listen to what

282
00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:20,640
Speaker 12: he says.

283
00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,040
Speaker 5: And do you feel like you need to see something,

284
00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,440
Speaker 5: some kind of a change, some kind of assurance that

285
00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,920
Speaker 5: I don't know that you guys are going to run

286
00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,440
Speaker 5: the ball more, or do you need to see a

287
00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,840
Speaker 5: change to make you feel hopeful that this can get

288
00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,080
Speaker 5: turned around going forward?

289
00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

290
00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,640
Speaker 12: For us, on offense, we just got to execute, you

291
00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,200
Speaker 12: know what is asked of us. You know, there's so

292
00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,360
Speaker 12: many plays where it's one guy each play, where it's like,

293
00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,040
Speaker 12: well this was called really well, you know, we had

294
00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,680
Speaker 12: a guy opening alignment gets beat on the play, or

295
00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,440
Speaker 12: we have a great run and we need someone to block,

296
00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,000
Speaker 12: you know, the backside linebacker, and we just don't get

297
00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,480
Speaker 12: to that guy. Like, there's so many little things in

298
00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,840
Speaker 12: the execution game where I think, I think if we

299
00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,520
Speaker 12: look at that and we try and improve on those aspects,

300
00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,320
Speaker 12: then we'll see you know, I know they're gonna do

301
00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,040
Speaker 12: a breakdown of the team and the roster and where

302
00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,000
Speaker 12: we're at. And and we got it. We got when

303
00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,560
Speaker 12: we call runs, we have to execute, we have to

304
00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,960
Speaker 12: get yards. We have to do that to to make

305
00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,360
Speaker 12: sure we you know, as a team, we still believe

306
00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,320
Speaker 12: in the run, and our defense is playing great and

307
00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,720
Speaker 12: and you know, we obviously haven't lived up to our

308
00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,000
Speaker 12: side of the uh the bargain.

309
00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,120
Speaker 3: Hey, Joel, So I guess off of that you talked

310
00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,920
Speaker 3: about the run game. Why do you think it wasn't

311
00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,440
Speaker 3: what you wanted yesterday?

312
00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,840
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, that first drive we had that nice

313
00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,720
Speaker 12: little uh you know, jet sweep to Malachi. He got

314
00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,480
Speaker 12: thirty five yards on that, you know, set up a

315
00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,720
Speaker 12: play action kind of off that and scored, and then

316
00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,320
Speaker 12: they were they were kind of running base defense to

317
00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,280
Speaker 12: whatever personnel we put out there on first down, and

318
00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,840
Speaker 12: so I think that limited our our run game calls

319
00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,119
Speaker 12: if we if we you know, bring eleven out there

320
00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,560
Speaker 12: where we can spread them out and try and pass

321
00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,760
Speaker 12: them out of the base based defense. So I think

322
00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,520
Speaker 12: it was those and then and then when we actually

323
00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,320
Speaker 12: look at the tape, like I kind of talked about Mary, Okay,

324
00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,000
Speaker 12: it's it's, you know, one guy on a play where

325
00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,240
Speaker 12: it's like we have a double team and then last

326
00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,320
Speaker 12: minute when the guy leaves, it kind of gets split

327
00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,320
Speaker 12: or you know, one guy gets you know, you know,

328
00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,000
Speaker 12: missed assignment on that play and when you only get

329
00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,800
Speaker 12: twelve or thirteen called runs, you have to find a

330
00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,120
Speaker 12: way to execute. So we're confident so we can keep

331
00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,040
Speaker 12: the ball, so we can you know, establish those those runs.

332
00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,960
Speaker 3: Do you think there's you know, when Kevin talks about

333
00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,400
Speaker 3: evaluating everything and we're talking about the run game, could

334
00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,320
Speaker 3: we see more outside runs coming out of the by

335
00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,680
Speaker 3: because it it and I you know, you know better

336
00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,080
Speaker 3: and I do, but it doesn't feel like there's as

337
00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,160
Speaker 3: many of those as straight kind of inside the tackle handleffs.

338
00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,560
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's it's definitely going to be part

339
00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,200
Speaker 12: of the evaluation, Like we have to look at everything

340
00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,520
Speaker 12: and if if they see like, hey, it's it's favorable.

341
00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,080
Speaker 12: We got to open this up a little bit more.

342
00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,680
Speaker 12: You know, we know what Quinchewn likes to do in

343
00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,040
Speaker 12: the run game, but we also have Samp and Jerome

344
00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,880
Speaker 12: that can do things on the edge for us, and

345
00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,320
Speaker 12: just just find a way to get more called and

346
00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:05,679
Speaker 12: be more successful with it.

347
00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,440
Speaker 8: Hey, Joe, cut off of that just. I mean, we've

348
00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,720
Speaker 8: talked all year about the tackle situation and the revolving

349
00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,879
Speaker 8: door and everything, and you're starting to get some continuity

350
00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,719
Speaker 8: with Cam over there. Jack was back in the lineup

351
00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,480
Speaker 8: a lot of this. But for you guys in the middle,

352
00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,120
Speaker 8: how much have you guys sort of found yourself having

353
00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,520
Speaker 8: to almost try to overcompensate at times during the course

354
00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,840
Speaker 8: of the season to help, you know, a leavi some

355
00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,639
Speaker 8: of the pressure off of whoever might be a you know,

356
00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,400
Speaker 8: out there on the edge in those situations.

357
00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's kind of getting to feel for how your

358
00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,200
Speaker 12: tackle plays and understanding, you know, some of the tackles

359
00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,640
Speaker 12: like to run the guys around the edge a little

360
00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,560
Speaker 12: bit more. Some of the guys set them a little

361
00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,480
Speaker 12: bit more straight up, where there's there's more of a

362
00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,879
Speaker 12: two way go passing off games and twist is something

363
00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,679
Speaker 12: you you know, gain with experience with the guy and

364
00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,000
Speaker 12: just kind of kind of feel that out. I wouldn't

365
00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,520
Speaker 12: say over compensating. There's been times in games where it's like, hey,

366
00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,160
Speaker 12: we got a great pass rusher out there, like let's

367
00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,720
Speaker 12: keep our eyes out there a little bit more instead

368
00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,200
Speaker 12: of firming the pocket up on the inside. So it's

369
00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,119
Speaker 12: really a game to game thing. But I'm getting more

370
00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,080
Speaker 12: and more comfortable cam as a game goes on. We

371
00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,040
Speaker 12: have a lot of confidence in those guys to you know,

372
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,879
Speaker 12: hopefully we can keep this five together and try and

373
00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,240
Speaker 12: build something in the second half.

374
00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,720
Speaker 8: Also with with Dylan, obviously you know he's only had

375
00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,040
Speaker 8: four starts under his belt. Just what ways can you

376
00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,480
Speaker 8: as a veteran sort of help him along, you know,

377
00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,760
Speaker 8: and you know not let everything sort of snowball, you know,

378
00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,439
Speaker 8: you know, every the weight of it all kind of

379
00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,280
Speaker 8: snowball on it.

380
00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,320
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think this week just giving him some you know,

381
00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,680
Speaker 12: getting the time away from the building, in time off

382
00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,880
Speaker 12: to reset your mind, to have an understanding of, hey,

383
00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,920
Speaker 12: this is a long season, like it's been four games

384
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,119
Speaker 12: into your career into this season, and then as a

385
00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,000
Speaker 12: group just performing for him, Like, so you know, everything

386
00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,639
Speaker 12: we can get as good as possible for him to

387
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,639
Speaker 12: have the ability to come in and execute and make

388
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:03,760
Speaker 12: the place he's capable of.

389
00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, Joel, Yesterday, Kevin said that he is sticking with

390
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,639
Speaker 5: Dylan Gabriel coming out of the buy, and then I

391
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,199
Speaker 5: asked him today, you know, why wouldn't you maybe just

392
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 5: try shaudor just to see if that might affect any

393
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:24,439
Speaker 5: kind of change. So the question is, what, you know,

394
00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 5: why might you think if you agree with that, why

395
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 5: might another quarterback change might not be the fix here?

396
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,520
Speaker 12: Yeah, we we have confidence Dylan to keep improving. You know,

397
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 12: he's had four games, he had some tough matchups, and

398
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 12: we want the offense to continue to grow, like it's

399
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 12: not a one person issue at times, you know, So

400
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,720
Speaker 12: we want to give our quarterbacks a chance. And I

401
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 12: think this bye week give him a chance to reset,

402
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,639
Speaker 12: is going to be good for his growth, like I

403
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 12: kind of mentioned, and for a young guy in this league,

404
00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 12: like four games is so minischool on on a you know,

405
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 12: big platform, So we have to give him a chance

406
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 12: to adjust and to see what he likes. Like, you know,

407
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 12: I think going back rewatching these games and being like

408
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 12: what plays were we successful with on offense? Like what

409
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,639
Speaker 12: does he like? How does he like to move in

410
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 12: the pocket? You know, where does he like to set up?

411
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,640
Speaker 12: All those things are still questions that we have to

412
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 12: answer and then as an offense, we want to perform

413
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 12: better to give him a chance to truly be evaluated.

414
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 3: A one more for you, Joe, you talked about having

415
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 3: limited number of runs. Do you feel pressure is a

416
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 3: line or is a run unit that if it doesn't

417
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 3: hit early, you're not going to get that chance to

418
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 3: let it hit late.

419
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

420
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 12: I mean as a group, we are, you know, trying

421
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 12: to be as good as possible in every run, you.

422
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 4: Know, and it's just game flow slash.

423
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 12: You know, where we're at as an offense where we

424
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 12: want to be successful early so we have confidence to

425
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,160
Speaker 12: be able to call those plays later on.

426
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,400
Speaker 3: And I did one more. What did you think about

427
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 3: Miles individual performance yesterday? It has kind of gotten not overlooked,

428
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 3: but it's kind of overshadowed by the loss.

429
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was special.

430
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 12: You know, I think we all know anybody who's paid

431
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 12: attention to fl he's the best, you know, defensive player

432
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 12: in the league, best pass rusher, and you know, sometimes

433
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 12: sacks don't always tell the story, and to get a

434
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 12: game where he gets gets.

435
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 4: Five sacks is impressive as heck.

436
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 12: You know, we all know who've been here, how hard

437
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 12: he is to block, and and you know the things

438
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 12: he could do on a football field, So it was impressive.

439
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 12: I wish we would have, you know, played better for

440
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 12: him yesterday so it could be a little bit more celebrated,

441
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 12: but it was an incredible performance.

442
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 5: No, I do have one more, Joel, just real quick,

443
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 5: what can what can you do as one of the

444
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 5: team leaders to help another team leader, your number one

445
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 5: wide receiver, Uh, not get frustrated during this time when

446
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 5: it's just not going his way right now?

447
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's okay to be frustrated if you

448
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 12: aren't frustrated at this point, you know, as as a

449
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 12: member of the team, like I don't. I think that's

450
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 12: you know, bigger at red Flag. So for him to

451
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 12: be frustrate, it's fine. I think it's it's finding a

452
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 12: way to use that frustration as whatever type of motivation

453
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 12: we need. And I know he's had his conversations with coach,

454
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 12: the fans, get in the offense and just getting everybody

455
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 12: on the same page. We know we saw, you know,

456
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 12: glimpses last year of what Jerry you can do as

457
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 12: a receiver, and so we know that's still in there

458
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 12: and we know we have to give them opportunities to

459
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 12: make those plays. But the frustration, we just need to

460
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 12: turn that into urgency and turn that into you know,

461
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 12: motivation to get it right.

462
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: Finally, defensive end to Alex.

463
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 9: Right, Hey, Alex, just wanted to start by asking what

464
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 9: did you think of Miles's performance yesterday? And to get

465
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 9: five sacks and break that record.

466
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 4: I want to say, it's unreal.

467
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 13: One on one, Miles is definitely in his own category

468
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 13: as far as pass rushers that's ever you know, came

469
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 13: into the football league and just find to do it

470
00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 13: at a certain age, getting into, uh said the records

471
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 13: at the age of years now and just seeing how

472
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 13: he carries hisself and you know, how he works on

473
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 13: his body and stuff like that, it just proves that,

474
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 13: you know, he could be in the league for as

475
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 13: many more years as he wants to be, So there's

476
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 13: no drop off with him. And the thing is with

477
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 13: even though he has five, is like he was never satisfied,

478
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 13: Like I want to get six.

479
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 4: I want to get as many as left before the

480
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 4: clock hit.

481
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 13: So just for him to stay hunger and State have

482
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 13: that drive and kind of like it's kind of like

483
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 13: contagious throughout like the d line room, Like you know,

484
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 13: you see you see him on the other side. You know,

485
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 13: you see how fast he gets to the quarterback. You

486
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 13: see how hungry he gets to the quarterback. So it

487
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 13: kind of feeds off to the others of you know

488
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 13: what I'm saying, Like we could get to the quarterback also,

489
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 13: like it ain't just got to be him.

490
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 4: We could take the load off him a little bit,

491
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 4: you know.

492
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 13: But just just seeing him achieved that and just being

493
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 13: on the side of him physically, and like you know,

494
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 13: just congratulating him, like it's a lot just just to

495
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 13: witness it.

496
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 9: Does it make the kind of performance he had? Grant

497
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 9: and Dunzell talked a little bit about this yesterday after

498
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 9: the game. But does it make it more frustrating that,

499
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 9: you know, he has this historic performance and you guys

500
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 9: aren't able to finish with a win, then.

501
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 13: I mean it's really frustrating. I mean that's just as

502
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 13: truthful as you can put it. I mean that's like,

503
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 13: you know, somebody in basketball dropping a career high and

504
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 13: fifty points and stuff like that, and it's like, you

505
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 13: do all this work, and you do that work, you

506
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 13: get to the cortback there's mean times and then just

507
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 13: for you know, to not leave with a win. It's

508
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 13: not only it's frustrating, but it's like.

509
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 4: Like, damn, like what else can I do? You know

510
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

511
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 13: So it's just like you try your best, You try

512
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 13: your best, you try your best, but the best thing

513
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 13: you can do is just you know, try to stay

514
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 13: positive about it.

515
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 4: You know, don't let it get you down and stuff

516
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 4: like that.

517
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 13: But the more the more you put in the work

518
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 13: and stuff like that, it's like, all right, you know

519
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 13: it'll be it's gonna it's gonna come into fruis one day.

520
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 13: He could get five secs when we get back, and

521
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 13: you know, it comes and it feel a whole lot

522
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 13: better with a win.

523
00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 4: You know.

524
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 13: It's just that, it's just that, like, you know, just

525
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 13: that thing you gotta stay positive in your mind. It's like, yeah,

526
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 13: you put in the work, you put in the work,

527
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 13: but I mean, it's it's it's frustrating, for sure. I

528
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 13: agree with him.

529
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, So are you going through the same thing. Are

530
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: you at a good game yesterday, You're really active making

531
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 3: plays in the backfield. Are you kind of experiencing that

532
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 3: same thing that you just talked about.

533
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 4: It's starting to get there. I mean I used to

534
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 4: hate it as much.

535
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 13: And that's something that Miles used to tell me, just

536
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 13: like with chips and stuff like that, double teams and no.

537
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 13: I used to get frustrated and he would say, and

538
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 13: it kind of uh. And I spoke on this uh

539
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 13: with my family and stuff like that, and it kind

540
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,479
Speaker 13: of it kind of dawned on me a little bit.

541
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 13: And he will say, if they chipping you and doing

542
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 13: all this extra stuff just to occupy you, and just

543
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 13: like they're doing me, it means they respect you instead

544
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 13: of you know, because we use it as a term

545
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 13: if you if you rather have one on me, you

546
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 13: don't respect me. But if you bringing chippers and stuff

547
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 13: like that, that means obviously I'm doing something to wreak havoc

548
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 13: on the game. So just for him to you know,

549
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 13: tell me that, it's kind of like okay. Once he

550
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 13: told me that, I kind of looked at it in

551
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 13: like a different from a different perspective of like, okay, okay,

552
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 13: when you say like that, all right, it kind of

553
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 13: makes me feel good because it's like I'm doing my job, Alex.

554
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 11: Kind of off of that and handling the frustration, but

555
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 11: also you know, trying to be as productive as possible.

556
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 11: Have you found a balance a process of navigating that

557
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 11: of trying to you know, be highly productive and impact

558
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 11: as an individual, but also manage the frustrations knowing it's

559
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 11: a team sport and there is probably only so much

560
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 11: that you can do as one player.

561
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 4: I mean, the main thing you have to do is

562
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 4: control what you can control.

563
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 13: That's just been the big thing, especially for myself, especially

564
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 13: all the adversity I've went through, just not trying to

565
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 13: be Superman, not trying to make somebody else's play, not

566
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 13: trying to control what the back end does. You know,

567
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 13: one thing that we just do as a D line

568
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 13: is we just you know, we focus on the D

569
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 13: line and we could put energy into the defense of

570
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 13: you know, of us being a standard top defense and

571
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 13: stuff like that, but individually, I would just say, yeah,

572
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 13: it's it could be frustrating, but the main thing you

573
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 13: gotta do is just really like stay positive and even

574
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 13: though it's hard to stay that sometimes it's much given

575
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 13: the fact that you know, I care a lot. I

576
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 13: don't like to lose. I'm pretty sure nobody likes to lose.

577
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 13: But just the fact that, you know, you gotta look

578
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 13: at the bigger picture. We're going into the Bibe week

579
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 13: and we have none more games left, Like there's a

580
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 13: lot of time.

581
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 4: And not only just.

582
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 13: Just saying that, you have to believe it and not

583
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 13: just saying it just for it to sound good and

584
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 13: stuff like that. No, like you got to internally believe

585
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 13: in your heart, like, you know, like we got to

586
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 13: turn this around if we got any chance of making

587
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 13: the playoffs or winning the division. We have to do

588
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 13: something to turn this team around. But the first thing

589
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 13: I do is look with yourself. So that's why I

590
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 13: just say, yeah, I could be productive more. I should have,

591
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 13: you know, rushed a little bit better than I did yesterday,

592
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 13: and stuff like that, where you know, I have a

593
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 13: high stand on myself where it's like, Okay, if I

594
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 13: didn't go up the field, maybe he didn't you know,

595
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 13: leak out through the begap or something like.

596
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 4: Just stuff like that, you know, just self critique.

597
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 13: I'm a self critique myself harder than anybody else, Harder

598
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 13: than the coaches would and stuff like that. So I

599
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 13: would just say, man like I would just just just

600
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 13: just control what I could control. Don't don't stress because

601
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 13: it's the NFL. What you don't want to happen is

602
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 13: going to happen some way somehow. The game is just

603
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 13: the games is flows, ups and downs. So it's what

604
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 13: you can determine, like you could, you could determine the

605
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 13: fact that how you want the game to go about.

606
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 5: So yeah, Alex, I actually have two questions, if you

607
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 5: don't mind. The first one is after the game yesterday,

608
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 5: Miles was talking about how he's going to take it

609
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 5: upon himself to work through the buy and to talk

610
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 5: to coaches and players and try to come up with

611
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 5: ideas on things that that you guys can do as

612
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 5: a football team in all phases to improve. And I

613
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 5: understand and that you know, he's got that kind of

614
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 5: status where he can do that sort of thing a

615
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 5: little bit, but as a defensive player with you guys

616
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 5: for the most part this whole entire season, uh, you know,

617
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 5: just upholding your end of the bargain, Will you guys

618
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 5: need to see some kind of tangible proof or evidence

619
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 5: when you get back from this buy that something has

620
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 5: changed or something's going to be different on the offense,

621
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 5: so that you guys can go out there with hope

622
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 5: and you know, keep your heads in the game and

623
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 5: know that things are going to be better.

624
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 13: I mean, you just got to put in the work

625
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 13: and not only put in the work. Just like I said,

626
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 13: believing is winning, just like the last question, like you

627
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 13: just got to see it happen, you know, whether that's

628
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 13: we all My thing is we all one team. We

629
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 13: all flow of energy off of each other. If the

630
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 13: offense makes a play, we're happy for them. If they down,

631
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 13: then you know, then we pick them up. If we're down,

632
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 13: then you know, we pick them up. That's just the

633
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 13: things of a winning football team. Like like Kevin would say,

634
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 13: that's like complimentary football. Like real complimentary football is you know,

635
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 13: picking your brother up when he's down. It's something doesn't

636
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 13: go right, I got your back and stuff like that.

637
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 13: So the thing is like just coming back from the buy.

638
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 13: Like I can't speak for you know, Miles or anything,

639
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 13: or I can't speak for you know, the coaches and

640
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 13: stuff like that. I just know, like the more physical

641
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 13: work that's being put in and the more that people

642
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 13: show up to actually, you know, work and stuff like that.

643
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 13: I feel like we would be a good football team.

644
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 13: We just can't slack, you know. And the thing is,

645
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 13: you know, we can't. We're not in a position to

646
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 13: slack around no more. We're not in a position to

647
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 13: you know, take shortcuts or you know, just just be like, Okay,

648
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 13: well we will.

649
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: Get it right this time. We can't. We we're not

650
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: in a position to do it anymore.

651
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 13: If we're gonna win, we gotta do things the right way,

652
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 13: and that's holding each other accountable like we've been doing.

653
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 4: And even if it's to a certain extent, you.

654
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 13: Know, like I will always tell people, you know, I'd

655
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 13: rather my teammate hold me accountable than my coach will,

656
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 13: because it hits way more different than a coach doing it.

657
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 13: A coach is, you know, just somebody that's coaching you,

658
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 13: that's getting you better and stuff like that. But from

659
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 13: to hear from, like if Grant would tell me I

660
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 13: need you to set the edge on that, it's like, wow,

661
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 13: I need Grant need me because he has a certain

662
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 13: gap on the outside of me or the inside me.

663
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 13: Like so for me, it kind of kind of is

664
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 13: like I could I could use the same thing in

665
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 13: practice with the offense, like whether it's the line, whether

666
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 13: it's the receivers and stuff like that, just like they

667
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 13: could use the same thing with me. We are all

668
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 13: valuable pieces to the puzzle of this football team. So

669
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 13: the thing is, I'd rather just be in the mindset

670
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 13: of just pushing each other to a certain potential that

671
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 13: I don't think has been a lot yet, Like, yeah,

672
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 13: we scratching it. You you have phases where it's like

673
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 13: in turning camp where you scratch the surface or were

674
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 13: not there yet this at the third But now now

675
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 13: is the time where everybody has to be pushed to

676
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 13: a certain potential. Whether it could get uncomfortable, whether it

677
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 13: could get you know, it's cruciating, whether some people may

678
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 13: not just like it. But that's just the effect of

679
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 13: that just makes the there were revenge somewhat sweeter in

680
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 13: the end. Like, so my thing is just just coming

681
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 13: back on a buy, everybody just pushing each other just

682
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 13: to be the best we could be and just just

683
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 13: pushing each other, pushing each other to their limits.

684
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 5: So and my second question was, I don't know that

685
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 5: you were asked specifically yet about Miles, you know, slamming

686
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 5: his helmet down at the end of the game and

687
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 5: kind of whipping the helmet down. I don't I don't

688
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 5: think you're asked about that. But my question about that is,

689
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if you were in the vicinity or

690
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 5: if you saw it and then he kind of went

691
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 5: and sat by himself on the end of the bench.

692
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 5: Do you worry about his mindset when you see some

693
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 5: kind of a situation when he does something like that,

694
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 5: or what does that show you or tell you?

695
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 13: That just shows somebody who's passionate about the football, game

696
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 13: of football, somebody who's who wants to be a winner,

697
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 13: somebody who wants to lead, and somebody who wants to

698
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 13: I mean, and people would go on social media look

699
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 13: at it as if oh he's he's lashing out, he's

700
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 13: having attention chances on oh just that, you.

701
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 4: Know, just outside noise.

702
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 13: Like at the end of the day, man like this

703
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 13: is somebody who wants to win nothing less like I

704
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 13: won't stop to I get a win, because that's all

705
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 13: that's all we get in the game.

706
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 4: For that's that's the thing. A lot of teams, a

707
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: lot of people, we come from winning.

708
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 13: So for us, you know, to lose and you know,

709
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 13: not find a way to win and then you know,

710
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 13: be up and down. It's frustrating because that's not what

711
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 13: we that's not what we play the game for. We

712
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 13: play the game just to have the like the names

713
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 13: on our backs, and we play the gamest like it's

714
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 13: a it's a child's game, just to have fun and

715
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 13: stuff like that. But it's also a competitive sport. Some

716
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 13: people may not be as competitive as as others. Some

717
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 13: people may not care some people. And when I say

718
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 13: some people, I don't mean people like are the same,

719
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 13: just speaking in general, you know, just like but you know,

720
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 13: just being a competitive person. I know for a fact,

721
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 13: I don't like to lose. I hate losing more than

722
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 13: I love winning. So I I don't look at his

723
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 13: mindset it's anything different. I look at somebody who will

724
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 13: won't stop at anything by any means necessary. We'll get

725
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 13: the job done. So I don't. I don't have no

726
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 13: problem about mouse.

727
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 8: Hey, I just want to go back to an answer

728
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 8: you just gave to Mary Kay about you talked about

729
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 8: slacking and you know, kind of short changing, you know,

730
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 8: short changing what they have to do. Are you talking

731
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 8: in general or do you feel like there's been people

732
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 8: on this team who have been slacking a little bit.

733
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 13: No, I'm a general speaker, man, I'm a general speaker.

734
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 4: I don't.

735
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 13: I don't take shots at anybody. I don't do the

736
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 13: the you know, stuff like that. We keep stuff in

737
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 13: the house.

738
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 4: I don't. I speak in general when I say we're slacking.

739
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 13: Some stuff you see out there on the in the

740
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 13: games where we can't get stuff done and stuff like that,

741
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 13: where it's been a consistent issue.

742
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 4: That's something that we try to work on. But other

743
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 4: than that, I don't. We don't do that, Okay. I

744
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: just wanted to clarify that. And then Carson.

745
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 8: I know we've bat shoot a lot about Carson, a

746
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 8: lot of people about cursing over the course of his

747
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 8: rookie year. You know, just the injury he suffered. Just

748
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 8: you know, how big of a blow is that for

749
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 8: you know, just because of the way he was playing

750
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 8: and what he was providing for this defense.

751
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 13: I mean, he was providing a light Like like I said,

752
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 13: he he was a rookie who played like an established

753
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 13: all pro vet. Like when you've seen Carson on the field,

754
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 13: he was just just here.

755
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 4: He was there. He was always running the ball.

756
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 13: He had his keys right, he knew what to do,

757
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 13: he knew how to put certain people in the right

758
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 13: positions with his calls and stuff like that. It was

759
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 13: everything was quick, quick, quick with him.

760
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 4: Like.

761
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 13: But the thing is with him, like you know, he's

762
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 13: he's the type person that's gonna fight back from that

763
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 13: injury and get the right. I'm not gonna speak too

764
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 13: much on it because I don't know too much about it.

765
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 13: I haven't talked I haven't talked to him today actually,

766
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 13: but just just in terms of him, I know he's

767
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 13: a warrior. I know he's gonna he's gonna do the

768
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 13: right thing stuff like that. But other than that, it's

769
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 13: kind of like just the next man up mentality, you know,

770
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 13: just and that's what it has always been, next maning up.

771
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 13: The standard is the same, and there's not really a

772
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 13: lot to speak on it. It's you know what you

773
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 13: have to do. We're all in the same room. It's

774
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 13: being preached to everybody no matter who you are, whether

775
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 13: you're whether you're one, whether you're two, whether you you're

776
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 13: practice squad, whether it doesn't matter.

777
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 4: The standard is always same. So yeah, with.

778
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: The trade deadline a week from tomorrow, and you and

779
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: your last year of your contract and playing well and

780
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: teams looking for end. Have you given any thought to

781
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: the fact that you could be traded before you play

782
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: again here?

783
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 13: I just I just take it one day at a time, man,

784
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 13: Like I'm just a bye week, like you know, I'm

785
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 13: going to go spend time with family at the end

786
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 13: of the day, like I don't look forward to whatever happens.

787
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 13: Happens is out of my control. I'm not gonna think

788
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 13: about it. I'm not gonna wear my head down. I'm

789
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 13: just gonna just go see family, go see friends. I'm

790
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 13: going back to UAB, I'm going to go see the

791
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 13: old college and stuff like that. So I'm not really

792
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 13: worried about trades. I'm not really worried about a deadline.

793
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 13: I'm not worried about this like outside noise and stuff

794
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 13: like that. I'm just worried about my personal life at

795
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 13: this point.

796
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: That'll do it for this episode of the From the

797
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: Podium podcast. Be sure to like an subscribe to the

798
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: show wherever you get your podcasts, keep it locked to

799
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns daily each weekday, and follow the Browns on

800
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: social media for more coverage from the Cross Country Mortgage

801
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: campus right here. In Berea. I'm Gabe Koleura. Thanks for

802
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: listening to the From the Podium podcast