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Speaker 1: What's up his way up with Angela yee? And how

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Speaker 1: exciting because y'all know I love a good hire movie.

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Speaker 1: Alison Brion, Dave Franco are here today. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining me the stars of this movie together.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having us.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you guys are definitely together.

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Speaker 3: Every way?

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Speaker 1: Yes, man, So you know, just so you guys know,

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Speaker 1: this is a movie that you did not have to

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Speaker 3: We did produce, yes, but we didn't write or direct it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So how is that to just have knowing that

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Speaker 1: like someone else can direct and we can just put

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, basically. So I've directed a couple of movies now,

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Speaker 2: which I love, but it's also made me enjoy acting

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Speaker 2: more than ever because you know, obviously, as a director

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Speaker 2: I'm acting, I step on set and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I got one job to do. I'm gonna kill this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hang out in the trailer.

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Speaker 3: So totally the last you know, we've worked This is

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Speaker 3: our fifth film that we've collaborated on together, but the

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Speaker 3: last two that we worked on Dave directed and we

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Speaker 3: top of that, working together on screen way more intensely,

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Speaker 3: way more intimately than we ever have. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: even just talking about the content of the film, but

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Speaker 3: just the fact that we're the co leads of this movie.

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Speaker 3: There's not many actors in the movie. It truly was

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Speaker 2: But also the content of the film, and the.

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Speaker 3: Content of the film is the most intimate and intense stuff.

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Speaker 2: We're doing things in this film that we've never done

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Speaker 2: on or off camera. It got weird, I hope.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So for people listening, if they want to

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Speaker 1: is and then we'll get into it, what would you

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Speaker 1: tell them? This is the premise of it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So it's basically about a codependent couple who gets

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Speaker 2: they need to be near each other at all times,

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Speaker 2: and then it starts escalating to the point where their

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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people there's one scene

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Speaker 1: and you guys definitely show what it could be like.

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Speaker 2: We went there.

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Speaker 3: In our regular relationship, we've never said that to each other.

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Speaker 2: No, but we are very cozy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I've never been like I gotta get under

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Speaker 3: this strip that I thought, I guess I do.

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Speaker 1: I guess I do want to be closer.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, there were days where like we were literally

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Speaker 2: so we're one to the bathroom together, you know, and we.

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Speaker 2: Just no coffee that day.

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Speaker 3: Umber around you a rule. No Number two.

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Speaker 1: I feel like men are real like more comfortable with that.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, men just don't even want to know that.

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Speaker 3: I don't like that. I don't like that. I think

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Speaker 3: to keep the romance alive. No. Number two is in

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to know about your.

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Speaker 2: The only boundary we put up in our relationships, the

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Speaker 1: Now, I want to talk about the characters that you

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Speaker 1: It kind of goes against the traditional norms the way

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. It's so funny that you said. I

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Speaker 3: proposed to me. In real life, I definitely would not

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Speaker 3: have proposed to Dave. Historically, Miranda proposed to Steve on

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Speaker 1: But you said think that from the point of view

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Speaker 3: Just depends relationship to relationship. I'm sure in some ways,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a very fractured relationship.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's less I think about the gender norms and

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Speaker 3: Even if a man's proposing to a woman, you got

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Speaker 2: But especially if you're gonna propose in front of all

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have said yes. It wouldn't have been like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, these characters, their friends are not that supportive of

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Speaker 2: I feel like we've all been there where you have

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Speaker 3: The back of their head can never overcome that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I've had to be like, but you know,

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Speaker 3: Okay, now I agree, and you're right once they up

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Speaker 1: But I think also because it felt like at first

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Speaker 3: It's interesting. I think at one time they had a

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Speaker 2: I think I think it's it's like smoking mirrors a

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Speaker 3: This is where their codependency comes into play, because certainly

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Speaker 2: These couples who have been together for over a decade,

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Speaker 2: Have they come complacent? Are they still actually in love?

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Speaker 2: And like this, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They used to kind of sort of what my character,

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Speaker 3: I think she feels like if she leaves the relationship,

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Speaker 2: She doesn't know who she is without him.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask, just in all objectively, do you

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Speaker 2: Because we're talking about the character the characters.

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Speaker 1: I just want to ask, because while I'm watching it,

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Speaker 1: literally like he could have just you know, she could

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Speaker 3: I honestly had never thought about that exact moment in

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Speaker 2: I think here's a nice way to say it, nice

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Speaker 2: He's learning to become less less selfish. Yes, yes, so,

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Speaker 3: I do think at the start of the movie it

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Speaker 3: that again just highlights how in this relationship they've been

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Speaker 3: I think a cool trick of the movie is that

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Speaker 1: You know, one of your friends in the movie puts

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Speaker 3: and he just will you marry me? And I just

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Speaker 1: Do you guys joke around with each other like pranky

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Speaker 2: Again, this is based on our director's real life.

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Speaker 1: couldn't drive until my parents moved to New Jersey and necessity,

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00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,879
Speaker 1: I was literally in tenth grade and my mom had

443
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,000
Speaker 1: to learn, and she drives to this day. She really

444
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,479
Speaker 1: cannot drive. Like she can drive on a residential street slowly.

445
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,639
Speaker 1: She will not get on a highway. She will not

446
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 1: drive people. I literally don't beat at people because I

447
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 1: feel like that could be my mom. That's just thirty

448
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 1: miles an hour on the highway.

449
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 3: Totally, and I beep less at people. Having three young nephews.

450
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 3: I feel like once my sisters started having kids, I

451
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 3: was like, they might have a baby in the car. No,

452
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 3: gotta let them drive slowly.

453
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Speaker 1: Was there anything creepy that happened? You know a lot

454
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 1: of times when people are filming horror movies and you

455
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 1: guys were literally like in the forest doing things I

456
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 1: would never do, like following a path. You know, there's

457
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Speaker 1: certain things when you watch a movie you're like, oh

458
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,159
Speaker 1: my god, come on, yeah, like why would they do that?

459
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

460
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean, did anything freaky? Because I always hear when

461
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,880
Speaker 1: people film horror movies every now and then there's like

462
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 1: they get a little something supernatural happens.

463
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Speaker 2: But like the first thing that comes to mind is,

464
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 2: you know, we shot a lot out in the forest,

465
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 2: and like this was in Australia, and before our first

466
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 2: time out there, people were like, oh, this place is

467
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 2: like notorious for tics. And then and then you cut

468
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 2: to us like rolling around on the ground, and when.

469
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 3: He says before it was truly like we get out

470
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Speaker 3: into the woods, were seconds away from filming shooting. They're

471
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 3: turning on fake rain machines and exactly we're about to

472
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 3: just be lying on the ground, falling into a hole

473
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 3: and they go, oh, by the way, look out for ticks.

474
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,719
Speaker 1: You were like, it's happening.

475
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 3: You're a little bit more of a heads up, so

476
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 3: I could wear taller socks. But we worked out. You know,

477
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 3: the thing I was scared of was spiders, but we

478
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,640
Speaker 3: actually didn't end up encountering people. Always everyone Americans get

479
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 3: very intimidated or there's all this lay about Australia. Everything

480
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 3: in Australia will kill you. But for the most part,

481
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 3: we're shooting in a metropolitan city. It's not like there

482
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 3: were snakes coming down the street. Although there was one

483
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Speaker 3: time when I was shooting apples never fall.

484
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Speaker 2: We went on a hike.

485
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 3: We went out on a hike. On the drive home,

486
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 3: we're on the highway and all these cars are stopped

487
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 3: and we look up and we're like, what's going on

488
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 3: with this traffic? And across the.

489
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: Entire road is this like twenty foot.

490
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 3: Giant ye it was longer than the length of the road.

491
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,479
Speaker 3: I thought it was some sort of that.

492
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 2: If we would have saw that on the wave, we

493
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 2: would not have He.

494
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 1: Would not have that would never. You better be count

495
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: your blessings that.

496
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 3: That was's territory.

497
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Another thing in the movie that I felt like

498
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to know more about. Was it trauma that

499
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 1: sure that your character has that Tim's character has, you know,

500
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: we see that plays out a lot and how like

501
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: he has medication.

502
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 3: And I would say this is the one place where

503
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 3: we should cut Tim some slack because we're talking about

504
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 3: how he's such a terrible partner. But the truth is

505
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 3: we're meeting him in a really yeah yeah.

506
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: Moment without giving too much way. Yes, he's having trauma

507
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 2: based on something that happened to his parents and kind

508
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 2: of his parents having the most extreme codependent relationship where

509
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: when one of them dies, the other one literally can't

510
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: function when when that partner died. And so that's kind

511
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: of what's really going on internally for this character and

512
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 2: making it why he's so terrified to commit to his

513
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: partner because he's like, oh my god, am I going

514
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: to end up like my parents, where like if anything

515
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: happens to my partner, I become catatonic. I don't know

516
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: how to live anymore.

517
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 3: And also in a way, it's like this thing happened

518
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 3: where he sort of lost both his parents in one

519
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 3: fell swoop, you know, so that that would just it's

520
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: so sad.

521
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is, and you guys are are sharing stories

522
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: in the movie that maybe you've never heard before. I

523
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: want to ask you this. I always feel like the

524
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: best relationships are two whole people that can function, you know,

525
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,479
Speaker 1: very well outside of each other and then come together.

526
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: But I've heard people talk about like dependency and how

527
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 1: important that is in a relationship where you're really like

528
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: dependent on the other person. And there's also the balance

529
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 1: of making somebody feel neat they aren't needed, but also

530
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,479
Speaker 1: letting them know that because sometimes I feel like we

531
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: can tend to try to prove that we can do things.

532
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it's a nice balance. But I

533
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: do agree with what you first said that it's really

534
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: nice to find someone who is independent, who isn't fully

535
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 2: leaning on you for everything, And like, I don't know,

536
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just speaking for myself. Like I loved

537
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: when when we met and that she was you know,

538
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: strong and just you know, really good at what she

539
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: did and she was standing on her own two feet.

540
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 2: That excited me.

541
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: I just was like, what are you familiar with her

542
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: work before you got yeah, but yeah, you.

543
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 3: Speak Yeah, No, I agree, I mean you asked before

544
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 3: like what's the most amount of time that we've spent together.

545
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: But then I think about what's the longest that we've

546
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 3: spent a part, which was when I was shooting a

547
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 3: show actually down in Australia, also on the Gold Coast,

548
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 3: And I mean that whole shoot was like five months.

549
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: Dave got to come down and visit one time was

550
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 3: his work schedule and he was shooting. So I think

551
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 3: we went three and a half months apart and then

552
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: spent like ten days together and then another so that

553
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: I think that was the longest. And it's hard, It's

554
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 3: really hard. But also it is important to your point

555
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 3: that we can stand on our own two feed have

556
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: our own independence. We are good. We because we love

557
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: what we do. We love doing it together, but we

558
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: also love doing it apart and develop great relationships with

559
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: the other people that.

560
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: We work with.

561
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people with their partner couldn't imagine

562
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: being with them in a day out, you know.

563
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: It is nice to miss each other. Yeah, yeah, and

564
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: then to kind of have that fun reunion.

565
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

566
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: Do you feel are they're more? I'm sure there has

567
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: got to be more coming together in the future with

568
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,239
Speaker 1: you guys. We're always said about it really amazing, like

569
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: you both are great at what you do, and then

570
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: to be able to be great at what you do

571
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: together as a team. But then everybody around you talks

572
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: about how pleasant you guys are, because I mean, it's

573
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: just an ideal situation. It feels like we Yeah, I think.

574
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 2: I think for the reason we first started doing it

575
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: was to spend time together. And then we realize quickly

576
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: quickly that like, oh we're actually we work really well

577
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 2: together and this is the most fun times we ever

578
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: have on set. And it's for many reasons, like creatively,

579
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 2: she's so good at what she does, and so she

580
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: makes my job easy in that way where it's just

581
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: really easy to play off of her, and then also

582
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: just to have that emotional support where like what we

583
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 2: do can be very vulnerable. We can really put ourselves

584
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: out on a limb, you know, as we show in

585
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 2: this movie, we are really taking huge swings, and to

586
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 2: be able to kind of turn to each other at

587
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: the end of the day and just keep each other

588
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: from spinning out mentally and just kind of grounding each other,

589
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: it's invaluable.

590
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 3: We're working with Dave is such a safe space. Nobody

591
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: cares about their projects more than Dave. I have never

592
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: worked with someone who, from start to finish, is so invested,

593
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 3: is so passionate, and Dave has great taste. Also, I

594
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 3: just trust him, you know what I mean. I mean

595
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 3: we work the same way. I think that's really helpful.

596
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: But just knowing, Like when I work on something with Dave,

597
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: I just know I'm gonna love it. I'm gonna be

598
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: proud of the work that we've done because his standards

599
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 3: are so high. And I also just think as we

600
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: get older, I mean, this is about working together because

601
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: Dave is my favorite person in the world and my

602
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 3: favorite person to work with, but also other friends. I

603
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: think more and more we're just always like, can't we

604
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: just work with the people that we like? Can we

605
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 3: know that we like to work with them? There's so

606
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: many unknowns in this business. We're always just trying to

607
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 3: work with the same group of people if we can.

608
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: I think, more than ever, it really has become a

609
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: lot about like, Okay, we should enjoy the process, Like, yes,

610
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 2: we want to make things that are great, but like

611
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: I'd rather not work with an asshole, even if they

612
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 2: are the most talented person in the world. I don't

613
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: have the time and energy for that anymore.

614
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: And you get to work with your family too. Clearly

615
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: like to have a talented family.

616
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 2: I've been so lucky to work with family and friends

617
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: for so many years now, and I truly think that's

618
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: when I do my my best work because I feel

619
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: comfortable with them and I'm like, yes, let's go nuts,

620
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: let's see what happens the studio.

621
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about Dave's recent Emmy nomination for his role

622
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: on the Studio. You're working with Seth Rogan, Seth and those.

623
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: Guys for almost twenty years.

624
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: It's nice to be in a position where you can

625
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: be around the people that you want to work with

626
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: instead of having to like, you know, have you ever

627
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: had to like work on set and not really liked

628
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: Not that you have to name it, but have you

629
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: ever been happens?

630
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is more rare than you think.

631
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.

632
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: But there are certain people. I feel like the true

633
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: nightmare stories are few and far between. But more often

634
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: it's people maybe that you just don't connect which with

635
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: which is funny. When we're comparing, we'll be like, you know,

636
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: I like them overall. The experience was good, but they're

637
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: just not my people, you know what I mean, Like

638
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: you feel that with friends too, right, Sometimes, like you

639
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 3: have your friends you've been friends with a long time.

640
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: Sometimes you meet a new person you click immediately and

641
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 3: become good friends, and then they try to introduce you

642
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: to a friend and you're like.

643
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: It's not really, it's not gonna happen. I can be

644
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: cordial and that's not my person. It's not exactly you know,

645
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: you and promising young woman. The role that you played

646
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: on that was, Yeah, I've watched that movie a couple

647
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: of times. Yeah, I thought it was quite interesting. But

648
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: your character, but it's it is something. What was her name, Maddie?

649
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: Was it? Yeah?

650
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: Madison Matt Do you know in the original script her

651
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: name was Alison. But I was like, yeah, Emerald, the

652
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: director was like, I think I'm going to change the

653
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: name so people.

654
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: Don't couldn't your story.

655
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 3: I was like, thank you, thank you.

656
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: But your character gives this whole You have a sit

657
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: down and you basically blame you know if you victim blame, Yeah,

658
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: victim blaming. You know.

659
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: That was one of the most interesting scripts I've ever

660
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: read prior to reading together. But Emerald Fanelle's script and

661
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: you read it too. We both were like, Wow, this

662
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: is so creative the way that she's examining this situation

663
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: and kind of you know, the conversation around sexual assault

664
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: and things like that, and it is important in a

665
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 3: story like that. It's interesting how she did such a

666
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: good job of sort of it's a weird way to say,

667
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: but like lightening it like it's kind of a fun

668
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: movie to watch because it's a bit about revenge, but

669
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: it's a viller, but it's about a heavy topic. But

670
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: it is important to show all sides of that type

671
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: of story. So my character really was representative of the

672
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: women who are victim blamers. And a lot of the time,

673
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: you know, that might even be because they themselves have

674
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: experienced trauma and they it's hard for them to wrap

675
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: their head around it. So like there were certain ways,

676
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: like with any character that I play, I want to

677
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: figure them out and learn how to empathize with them

678
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: and kind of see like, oh, this is her way

679
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: of kind of blocking out the things that she has experienced.

680
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: That doesn't make it right and it's not okay.

681
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: But it's it really does happen. People really are like

682
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: she got drunk, so was her fat? Like she was wearing.

683
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's a terrible side of it, but it

684
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: was important to show for sure.

685
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: So what was the hardest part of together to make?

686
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: Like?

687
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: What scene? Was it the one where you guys were

688
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: stuck together or did.

689
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: On set?

690
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: I think the physicality in general, Like we really threw

691
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: our bodies around in ways that we've never moved before.

692
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: I was sore in places I've never been sore before.

693
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: And it was pretty much every single day. And so

694
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: like I think about and I say this because it's

695
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: in the trailer for a moment, but like there's a

696
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: shower scene where I am fully nude, my character is

697
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: unconscious and I'm soaking wet. I'm flinging my limp body

698
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: against these porcelain walls and I can't brace myself because

699
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: I'm unconscious, and that hurts.

700
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: Wow.

701
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about how much that must We're

702
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: just watching it and seeing.

703
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: Dave was covered in bruises by the end of the shoot.

704
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: We actually have like a collage because I would photograph

705
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 3: my jury. Yeah, we have a collage of all his bruises.

706
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: But you know, we every single day we were kind

707
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: of looking around at each other, like it feels like

708
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: we're getting away with something like we're making we're really

709
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: pushing the boundaries and making something that hopefully people have

710
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: never seen before. And so our excitement just about the

711
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: footage kind of superseded the pain that we were feeling.

712
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: The physical side was that double edged sword, where like

713
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: it was exhausting, but it was also exhilarating. We like

714
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 3: to do it, and and there was an aspect to

715
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: certain scenes in this where like you couldn't even really

716
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: do it in rehearsal. It was kind of just like action.

717
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: We had to go full force, full energy. So it

718
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: was fun just to see see what Dave was gonna do,

719
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: see what was going to come out of my weird brain.

720
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: But there's there's there's a scene where not doing anything

721
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: to elaborate, but I'm like climbing out of the cave

722
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: and it's this very thin rope and I did the

723
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: first take and I climbed up as far as I could,

724
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: and I came down and I was like, Okay, my

725
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: hands are starting to bleed. Yeah, but I got really

726
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: high up there and I think it's gonna look good

727
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: for the shot. And then the director came over and

728
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: he was like Dave, I'm sorry. One of the crew members, shadows,

729
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: got in the shot. So I took a moment. I

730
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: was like, okay, let's go again, and so I did

731
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: it again, and this time my hands were gushing the

732
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: word and for the next week I had bandages all

733
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: over my palms. And you don't realize how much you

734
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: use your hands until you real until you like.

735
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, And you sat this in twenty one days, right,

736
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: that's intense. It was very yeah, but it's us that

737
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: you got in and out.

738
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: That's true. It was a sprint where if this was

739
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: you know, drawn out over two or three months, I

740
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: don't know if we would have survived.

741
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: I don't think we would not have been able to

742
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: that level. It's true. I think we would have. You know,

743
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: we were often we had a lot of different stunt

744
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: doubles working on the set. I have this great contortionist

745
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: who does some of the freaky stuff that my character

746
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: you know, gets into those positions. But often we were

747
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: asking the stunt doubles to step aside so we could

748
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: just jump in and do it ourselves. I think if

749
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: this were like a three to four month shoot, we

750
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: would have been.

751
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: Like the stop, where's a stunt done somehow. Yeah, well

752
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: you talked about boundaries earlier too. When it comes to

753
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: working together and wanting them miss each other. There are

754
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: people listening who whatever work they do, they are working

755
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: with their significant other. When it comes to establishing boundaries,

756
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: what are some of the boundaries that you guys have.

757
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 3: Well, I mean when we were shooting this movie, we

758
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: didn't really have boundaries again because it was such a

759
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: short schedule, so fal on we were like, let's just

760
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 3: debrief when we are writing together. I do try to

761
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: set sort of hours working hours. Dave doesn't always adhere

762
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: to my schedule around there that I.

763
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: Get very excited about an idea to the point where

764
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: I want to write a whole script about it. And

765
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: so when I lock into an idea, I can't stop.

766
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 2: You give me a task and I need to keep

767
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: going until it's done.

768
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: But like anything in a relationship, everything comes back to communication, right,

769
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: Because I can think of a moment even recently when

770
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: you were working on your latest script that I wasn't

771
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: even writing with you, and I felt like, you know,

772
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 3: there was just a moment where maybe I had to

773
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: vocalize and sort of be like I love you. I

774
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: love this idea. We need to also take breaks where

775
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: we talk about things that are not work and just

776
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: remind each other of that. And of course, you know,

777
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 3: Dave is so receptive. We both I think, are very open,

778
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: you know, and honest with each other and also are

779
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: never trying to push the other person's boundaries past what

780
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: they want. It's nice just we both get excited and

781
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: passionate about things, and then you need to kind of

782
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: talk openly and be like, Okay, I need a break,

783
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: and then respect that boundary.

784
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: Then who was the one that started watching Love Island?

785
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: I made the other person watch me?

786
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: Okay, I would say that's probably the truth of any reality.

787
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: What else do you watch, like Ninety Day Fiance or no, you.

788
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: Know, lately, I just watching Oh yeah, I love the

789
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: Kardashians and I love Lately I've been watching The Secret

790
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: Lives of Mormon Housewives.

791
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: Okay, I said to.

792
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: Dave, doesn't really watch that with me, but he's caught.

793
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: He doesn't try to watch it with me. We sort

794
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 3: of can't certainly get sucked in. Yeah, because it's just

795
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 3: on in the house.

796
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, listen, you guys. I appreciate y'all for coming

797
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: through and kind of like I liked this conversation because

798
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: I could feel the energy. I feel like just talking

799
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: to y'all and then watching the movie is going to

800
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: be for everybody that's listening. You know, they haven't had

801
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: a chance to see. I saw the screen, but you

802
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: know you got to go to the theaters and watch it. Yeah,

803
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 1: it's in theaters actually now, so people can check it out.

804
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: It really is a great time.

805
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: And I love horror movies.

806
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a great time on the big screen surrounded

807
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 2: by strangers where every screening we've gone to people are vocal.

808
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: You know, they're screaming, they're laughing, they're grabbing the person

809
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: next to them.

810
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 3: It's fun to see horror in the theater, and especially

811
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: this movie was really made to be watched like with

812
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 3: a big audience.

813
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: You know, I saw you guys were also doing a contest.

814
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, can we tell about that?

815
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 3: People propose at a movie theater and they have to

816
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 3: tag together contest. I think it's hashtag together contest. Neon,

817
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: you could win the chance for Neon to pay for

818
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: their wedding in Vegas.

819
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: Well a wedding in Vegas. Hey, we could do whatever.

820
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: We went at this wedding. But I didn't say all that.

821
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: I didn't say all that. You got to read the

822
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: fine prints. It's on Instagram.

823
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you watching this with your partner,

824
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: what was that like? And did you guys have different

825
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: kind of takes on it?

826
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: Well, okay, I say, because he thinks I'm very like

827
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: pro woman all the time, and I am why not? Yeah,

828
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: because I was like, I was getting annoyed. I'm not

829
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: gonna lie. And I did have some some empathy, you know,

830
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: knowing that your character Tim had some trauma. But I

831
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: was also annoyed at the fact that, like I felt

832
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: like Millie was very nice and like attempting to make

833
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: things work and patience with his character, and there were

834
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: certain things that he did that I was just like irritated.

835
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 2: By, you know what I mean? Definitely, definitely, And I

836
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 2: wonder if.

837
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: I got to ask him what his thoughts were. He

838
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: was annoyed though, that you dragged her into the cave.

839
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: That's by he wasn't intentional. I was fare to pull myself.

840
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: He was like, bro, come on, you pulled it into

841
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: the cave. Like what I was like, Well, she was

842
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: trying to help him. I was like I would have left.

843
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: I was like, just so you know, had left you

844
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: down there and got help. There's no reason for both

845
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: of us to be in this cave.

846
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 3: That's true.

847
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 2: It's been amazing, though, is kind of the different reactions.

848
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: To the y I didn't like that that same night,

849
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: you didn't like get out right away because he felt

850
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: like you could have, like there was a storm.

851
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: Going on though we were lost in the storm cave.

852
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm not spending a night in the cave. I'm sorry

853
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: if I said listen, if we fall in a cave

854
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: and you're not trying, your heart is to get out

855
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: of there a sap. When we get out of here,

856
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: it's over.

857
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. What else was gonna say, though, is it's been

858
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: amazing seeing the different reactions, where like you talk to

859
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: some people who are single and they watched the movie

860
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: and they're like, I am glad I'm single.

861
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

862
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: And then you talked to couples and like there was

863
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: one couple we talked to who was in a fight

864
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 2: all week and then they saw the movie and it

865
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: helped them make up. And so everyone's taking a little different.

866
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: And there's people that want to be in a relationship

867
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: and the other person doesn't, and he's They're like, I'm

868
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: going to get attached to you forever, sure, and we

869
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: won't be able to learn.

870
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: Two people came up to us at the premiere after

871
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: party and one of them goes, oh my god, I

872
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,959
Speaker 3: was sobbing at the end of the movie. I said why,

873
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: and she said, because I want a relationship like that,

874
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: And the man next to her said, I thought it

875
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: was horrifying.

876
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: It's so funny. You're right, everybody's gonna have a different

877
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: point of view when it comes.

878
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: How you feel about relationships and monogamy. It's like really

879
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Speaker 3: going to reflect it.

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Speaker 1: Back to you because sometimes when you're like cut it up,

881
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Speaker 1: you're like, I can't get any closer than I am

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Speaker 1: right now, but yes you can.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that person with you is like, get off, I

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Speaker 3: can't sleep with you on me like that.

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Speaker 1: But again, thank you guys so much. I really appreciate it.

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00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: A great movie. I saw already. Some of the reviews

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Speaker 1: have been rolling in. It feels very positive, so this

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Speaker 1: must feel good. So congratulations, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You know, and I know separately individually you have amazing

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Speaker 1: projects that working on writing, but this is you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just nice to see y'all together working together in

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Speaker 1: a great horror movie.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, M.