WEBVTT - Nerdy Board Games Rock #005

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How to Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're talking about nerdy board games. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're talking about nerdy board games. Matt and I

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<v Speaker 1>like to play board games that take a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of rules. I feel like for most folks

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<v Speaker 1>that's the definition of a nerdy board game. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>how long is this gonna take? And ours can be

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<v Speaker 1>up to four hours, oh my gosh, usually in the

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<v Speaker 1>two hour range. I would say an hour to two

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<v Speaker 1>hour range. But we feel like my sweet spot now

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<v Speaker 1>is like forty five minutes to an hour and a half, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, with the kids or just other things

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<v Speaker 1>that I've got I've got going on. I can't it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to spend four hours playing a game. No, it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've got another set of friends that I play with. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't usually play with those dudes. You're taking

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<v Speaker 1>it to a whole another level. And we we game

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<v Speaker 1>really hard. Um, but sometimes we'll get together and and

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<v Speaker 1>play and play with our wives and stuff like that too.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like to play with my wife. We play

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<v Speaker 1>board games, and so we want to talk all about

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<v Speaker 1>why we think they're important, Why we think why they're fun,

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<v Speaker 1>what they teach us, and how they actually end up

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<v Speaker 1>saving us money. So nerdy board games are actually kind

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<v Speaker 1>of one of those. It's kind of got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that yeah built in and it's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>small spokes in the wheel that we love. I like it. Yeah, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the last episode we we dove into investment

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<v Speaker 1>properties and said this one we decided to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>steer more towards something a little lighter. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not like ready to drop thirty grand on a down

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<v Speaker 1>payment on a rental property, that's cool. You can drop

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<v Speaker 1>thirty bucks on a nerdy board game and have hours

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<v Speaker 1>and hours and hours of fun gameplay. Yeah. Every week though,

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<v Speaker 1>we we crack open a beer up or as and

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<v Speaker 1>we pour a beer so poor not poor, and Joel

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<v Speaker 1>has a fantastic beer for us tonight. So Matt, we

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<v Speaker 1>got lucky to find this one. I've only had I've

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<v Speaker 1>had this beer one time in my life. You've never had,

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<v Speaker 1>ever had it. I'm super stoked. I'm really excited to

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<v Speaker 1>share it with you. I legitimately would consider this beer

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<v Speaker 1>top five beers I've ever had in my life. And

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<v Speaker 1>and I've definitely had upboards of beers in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>So this one, this one is one of those crown jewels.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you really had that? Man? Oh yeah, easy, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>look at my untapped different beers. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to follow us on tapped, go to

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<v Speaker 1>poor not Poor dot com and you can you can

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<v Speaker 1>follow that because and I haven't logged all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know from basically what I've logged, and then

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<v Speaker 1>what other beers I've had that I don't log and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know honestly what my count is, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think I don't have that. Man, Actually, I know I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that many. That's that seems like a huge number.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, so think about it. I went to the

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<v Speaker 1>Shelton Brothers Beer Festival and I probably tasted oh that's true,

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<v Speaker 1>forty beers in one day, right, And there's like beer

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<v Speaker 1>festivals like that where it adds up, it adds up.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and I get around you drink a beer

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Oh wait, So I don't even think I

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<v Speaker 1>said the name yet. Okay, So the name of the

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<v Speaker 1>beer we're drinking today is Wicked Weed Golden Angel. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a barrel aged American sour ale with Apricots. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>that fruited sour again. Man, that's that's a good it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good style. And so this beer is super hard

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<v Speaker 1>to come by. Although now that Budweiser acquired Wicked Weed,

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<v Speaker 1>they on Black Friday put out some of these beers

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<v Speaker 1>in markets around the country where they where they distribute.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was lucky enough to get my hands on

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<v Speaker 1>a Golden Angel from you guys up on Peachtree. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got the same shot with my my peeps

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<v Speaker 1>of peach Tree package. They they're they're super kind and

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<v Speaker 1>save me good beers from time to time. Treat you right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they do. And this one, I'm so glad they

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<v Speaker 1>saved it for me. I'm super pumped. So let me

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<v Speaker 1>open it now and we'll do. Kate and I went

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<v Speaker 1>up to the funcatori um up in Asheville, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know I've had the Red Angel and I've had Black Angel.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know which ones of those I've had. I

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<v Speaker 1>swear I've had one more Angel because the Angels like

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<v Speaker 1>a series. It's like some of their better beer. They

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<v Speaker 1>have a framboot mort which is there like a raspberry

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<v Speaker 1>Belgian style raspberry. I think spontaneously for mented beer. That's

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<v Speaker 1>super fantastic. Not surprisingly, this is pouring a beautiful golden

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad it looks so good and I hope it

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<v Speaker 1>tastes that good because this bottle, it was twenty and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot. We like it beca This isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>huge bottle. This isn't one of those seven fifties. This

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<v Speaker 1>is I believe. So we're each getting probably roughly so

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<v Speaker 1>one point one point point nine ounce eight and a

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<v Speaker 1>half ounces each. They use one pound of whole fresh

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<v Speaker 1>apricots per gallon. That's a lot of fruit. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>you can go online. The episode post will have the

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<v Speaker 1>picture up of the bottle there you can see that

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<v Speaker 1>and the end of the beer in the glass, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can take a look and Golden Angel is. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's take a take a taste and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into the major tasting notes after after we finished

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<v Speaker 1>talking about nerdy board games. Oh man, that is like

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly balanced. Oh man, it's my Is that is that annoying?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that? Like? My? It's my my tasting catch phrase

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<v Speaker 1>catch line. One of these days we're gonna put t

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<v Speaker 1>shirts with your face on it, and it's just saying

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, oh man, this is so well balanced between

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<v Speaker 1>the I mean you've got that's that's heart tartness with

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<v Speaker 1>the sweetness from the apricot. Really nice like carbonation to

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<v Speaker 1>it as well. Feels Yeah, it feels great in your mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not not too thick and surrupy. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>it's still bright. It's almost got like a slight champagne

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<v Speaker 1>like quality to this. Yeah. Absolutely, all right. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into the specifics at the very end of tasting notes

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<v Speaker 1>for Golden Angel from Wicked Weed. Man, thanks for going

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<v Speaker 1>on and Graham, now that's great. I'm glad we get

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<v Speaker 1>to taste beers like this. If you don't know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we do, man, poor, not poor. We're all about

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<v Speaker 1>pooring a good beer and a living of rich life

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<v Speaker 1>and drinking Golden Angel. Man, I mean that's where that

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<v Speaker 1>and okay, speaking of rich life, what do we do today, Matt?

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<v Speaker 1>That was awesome? Yeah, we uh spent some time riding around.

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<v Speaker 1>We got loaded the girls up and went to a

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<v Speaker 1>local brewery. Right, it has been terrible here in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>as far as weather is concerned, and so being able

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<v Speaker 1>to get out in shorts and hop on the bikes

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<v Speaker 1>get the blood flowing or in your case, georgs, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do we haven't pick it that we can

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<v Speaker 1>post on the website. I hope everyone wants to see

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<v Speaker 1>what is man. You know, what his face looks like

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<v Speaker 1>from the podcast artwork. But fine, if you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to see my shorts, my short shorts. But

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else wants to know what your chicken legs look like, George.

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<v Speaker 1>If they want to see that, that's that's fine. We

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<v Speaker 1>might throw that up there then, all right, maybe for

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<v Speaker 1>your viewing pleasure, keep checking back, check the website. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. Sometimes you just want to just throwing some

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<v Speaker 1>shorts on. And that's just what's at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>my top of the drawer. That's what I had. There's

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<v Speaker 1>paint all over. Those are those, I mean, they're work shorts,

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<v Speaker 1>thrilled jeans. And I cut him, trimmed him down into shorts,

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<v Speaker 1>and now that's just what I wear sometimes in public.

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<v Speaker 1>They look fantastic. I was proud of you boring them.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we had a just a wonderful ride, just

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<v Speaker 1>a few miles each way, and Tocal Brewery gets to order.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of beers hang out outside in the sunlight.

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<v Speaker 1>The girls are having a blast room, meeting neighbors that

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<v Speaker 1>we've never met before, seeing old friends, seeing old friends

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<v Speaker 1>as well, catching up unplanned. That is that's life. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if I could do that every every weekend, agreed, Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's my idea of a perfect weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm so glad that we got to We

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<v Speaker 1>get to do that, have a lot of fun riding bikes.

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<v Speaker 1>And our buddy got he came along with us as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And he actually he's got a podcast, poem cast poem cast,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you are into or into lungs and how

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<v Speaker 1>they work function, check out his everything pulmonary related. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna want to check out poem cast. Yeah, that's something

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<v Speaker 1>he puts on there at at his hospital. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>the man, some of the guys. Yeah, inspiring. Great dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Also shares our affinity to bikes and beer, so he

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<v Speaker 1>and podcasting came along. Yeah, the trifecta. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we were up to today. Uh, and feel free to

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys were not on your bikes, and he

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<v Speaker 1>took awesome pictures tweet us not poor Joel, not poor

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<v Speaker 1>Matt on Twitter and uh and let's see what you

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<v Speaker 1>were up to. And if you pull off George better

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<v Speaker 1>than Matt, feel free to tweet us those two those pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to point out to you that I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's somewhat ironic George's It's not like I'm I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in Florida, not at all. It's totally Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Any guy in Florida wearing them, that's that's straight up.

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<v Speaker 1>He thinks it looks good. Yeah, oh yeah, he's all

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I wanted to mention to you earlier mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>untapped our accounts. If you get the content our contact

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<v Speaker 1>page on our website at poor not Poor dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>There there there's links up there to everything we've got.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got our page up on Facebook, We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>group up on Facebook, we've got our profiles on untapped,

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<v Speaker 1>in our Twitter accounts, on our Instagram, so everything is

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<v Speaker 1>up there if you're kind of wondering where where to

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<v Speaker 1>find us. And and by the way, we're about to

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<v Speaker 1>get into the subject and hey, in we're talking nerdy

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<v Speaker 1>board games today on the podcast. If you want some

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<v Speaker 1>more meaty material, the last podcast was about investment properties.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel free to go check that out. And we just

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<v Speaker 1>posted an article too about how to save money on insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are a bunch of ideas about how I

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<v Speaker 1>think you can save literally hundreds of dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 1>That you know that Geico commercial of saving fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>Well really, I really think that reading through this thing

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<v Speaker 1>and using some of these strategies can easily help save

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<v Speaker 1>you hundreds of dollars a year on car and home insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>So so check that check that article out if you

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<v Speaker 1>get a minute. That's good stuff. Actually, I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>of something from the brewery from even Tide. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was paying with cash. Oh yeah, that's weird. The only

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<v Speaker 1>reason I had cash in my wall is because it's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's not ra after Christmas, but i still

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<v Speaker 1>have Christmas money from from family, and I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>birthday in December as well. I don't ever use cash though,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just never think about it. I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>how to even use cash because the girls like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to pay now or start a tab? I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, well, I've got I've got cash. Do

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<v Speaker 1>I turn this into tokens to then pay you with?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So I mean my entire life literally

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<v Speaker 1>literally starting in high school. I started using a credit

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<v Speaker 1>card and I, you know, I keep up with it

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<v Speaker 1>and pay it off. You know how I am. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a nerd. Yeah, I tracked all that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, and you would you would be so happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Emily and I talked about our budget right before we

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<v Speaker 1>came over here tonight. So yeah, we sat down and

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<v Speaker 1>went through heck. Yeah, man, we got the spreadsheet out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very proud of you. Yeah, we're killing it. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean yeah, when was the last time you paid cash

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<v Speaker 1>for for something? Especially, I mean even beer. It almost

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<v Speaker 1>never happens. And but I had the same experience actually

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<v Speaker 1>today using cash, but only because I've been selling things

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<v Speaker 1>on the Facebook yard sales site. So I've been saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like decluttering, getting rid of some things, making some extra cash,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pay you in cash on there usually or or

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<v Speaker 1>Venmo whatever, then more the cash Appum. Yeah, I much

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<v Speaker 1>prefer that totally. I love those things. But why do

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<v Speaker 1>you seem so dirty? Yeah? It kind of wet and

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<v Speaker 1>germs all over. I'd much rather you pay me digitally,

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<v Speaker 1>did you? Yeah? Did you pay for your beers with cash?

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<v Speaker 1>I did today because about because people have been paying

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<v Speaker 1>me and but again it was it is this weird

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I'm almost never paying and I like never

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<v Speaker 1>have cash in my wallet for any reason. So these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are probably like, what are these guys doing rolling

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<v Speaker 1>up with bills in their pocket pockets George and cash.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys must be drug dealers. These guys are from

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<v Speaker 1>like the nineties. These are guys from Florida in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it felt different, and I know, like you

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<v Speaker 1>read that how you know, it feels different when you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually spending money. But what I liked about it was

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't have to sign it. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>just gave the money and it was close enough and

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<v Speaker 1>I could I just walked away. Yeah, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it felt kind of cool being able to do that

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<v Speaker 1>and not like sign something the receipt. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>easier when they use like the iPad thing and they

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<v Speaker 1>flip it around for you to sign it with your finger.

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<v Speaker 1>That's nice and quick. Yeah I dig that. So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we both used cash today randomly who knows, and it

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<v Speaker 1>almost never happens. Okay, So last episode we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>what I do for a living, right, and but we

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<v Speaker 1>when we need to talk about you a little bit too. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to tell folks what you do for

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<v Speaker 1>for a nine of five? Grave Digger? Yeah, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>you get all that, is it? Grave Robber? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what you steal all these? Oh yeah, then that'd be

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<v Speaker 1>that'd be a different ooculation. I can do both at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time though, So uh no, I work in radio.

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<v Speaker 1>So my my boss. If you're interested in other podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>about money. His name is Clark Howard and he has

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<v Speaker 1>been hosting a consumer advice radio show for thirty years now,

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<v Speaker 1>the original podcast Radio. And you can find him on

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<v Speaker 1>podcast too, so he's usually high up there in the

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<v Speaker 1>business section rankings. And uh he's also been podcasting for

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years, so he's been doing the podcast thing for

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<v Speaker 1>longer than most people have been at it. And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're newbies here, but if you and Clark, well you

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<v Speaker 1>can call us news. But you're the one that's got

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you've been doing You've been in radio for

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<v Speaker 1>so I wasted ten years now, right, yet I've been

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<v Speaker 1>I've worked with Clark for eleven so I've been radio

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit longer than that. That's awesome. And

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I love what we talk about. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the medium of being able to talk to people long

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<v Speaker 1>form and and help them too. I think that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>literally the coolest thing about my job is we help

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<v Speaker 1>people every day. Yeah, people call in, they ask questions,

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<v Speaker 1>They get help with their finances, with money issues, with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, buying a house, saving for college. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of stuff, right, he feels all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>questionge variety of questions. So it's really really fun to

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<v Speaker 1>get to work on that every day and get to

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<v Speaker 1>help people. And so I just inspired me. Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a similar philosophy in a lot of ways

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<v Speaker 1>to Clark, but we also live life a lot differently.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Matt and I love bearing talking about money,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh so we're gonna use this platform on poor

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<v Speaker 1>not poor, hopefully to do something similar and reach a

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<v Speaker 1>different audience. Eleven years of talking on the radio, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why everyone was wondering why Joel has that silky

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<v Speaker 1>smooth voice. Well that's that's why it's true. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>just gets better. You know, as you talk more on

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<v Speaker 1>the radio, your voice just turns into pure gold. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh that's a good thing. Is that? Why might sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like crap? You'll get there buddy, you'll get there, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas Evan spent in ten years not talking to people

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<v Speaker 1>and just looking at looking at pictures, looking at a

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<v Speaker 1>computer screen, have to learn how to talk again. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're doing great, You're doing great. Sweet. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into the subject at hand. It's board games.

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<v Speaker 1>We're to talk about why we love them, and the

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<v Speaker 1>first reason because they're fun. Yeah, instead of sitting around

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<v Speaker 1>and watching TV or playing games even online, just the

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<v Speaker 1>different video games that folks are doing. I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>some soccer podcasts and they all they talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, how they get together not in real

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<v Speaker 1>life but through through the different and they play each other,

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<v Speaker 1>they play you know, in FIFA whatever, and still like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fun and that's great that you're actually playing against

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<v Speaker 1>someone else and not a computer. However, it's just not

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<v Speaker 1>the same as the true, you know, in person hanging out,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're talking to somebody. There's so much nuance and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else that's missing from It's like it's like getting

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<v Speaker 1>a beer over Skype. Sounds terrible. Yeah, I do not

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that. No, I'm not into that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>board games are so much fun. I think if some

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<v Speaker 1>of the Like literally last year, when Emily and I

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of SEEN we were making our goals.

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<v Speaker 1>There were kind of two goals that I had for

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<v Speaker 1>that year, and one was to play more disc golf

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<v Speaker 1>and the other was to play more board games with

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<v Speaker 1>my friends. Because those were just two things, I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the there are two of my favorite things

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<v Speaker 1>to do that I don't do enough of, And so

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<v Speaker 1>last year I didn't do as good about playing disc golf,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did do a better job about playing board

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<v Speaker 1>games one or the other. You know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people choose I want to try to lose weight for

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<v Speaker 1>their new Year's resolution. You know, I'm just felt, dug,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need that. Instead, you're like, oh, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to play more Yeah, exactly what dude, that's a I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a good thing as long as both of

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<v Speaker 1>those things for me are usually spent like time spent

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<v Speaker 1>with other people. So it's community. I'm that's true. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm literally We've never met a more extroverted person than me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I recharged spending time with other people. And I

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<v Speaker 1>really love board games, really love disc golf, and so

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<v Speaker 1>either either way, I'm going to be hanging with people

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<v Speaker 1>doing something I enjoy. It's like a torpedo right in

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<v Speaker 1>the center of my personality. Is perfect. Yeah, it gets

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<v Speaker 1>to play game and socialized to hang out. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>community so not much more fun than that. And my

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<v Speaker 1>wife and I we love to do to to play

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<v Speaker 1>nerdy board games together too. But first let's let's tell

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<v Speaker 1>people what we mean my nerdy board games. So we've

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<v Speaker 1>kind of used this phrase. We've talked about board games.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not talking about candy Land here. I mean, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you are mad. I don't know, Maybe that's the candy

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<v Speaker 1>Land and ladders. You know all my favorites from as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid growing up. Did you play games growing up? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we totally played like Sorry, oh man, I remember, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but Yatsie. My parents loved Yatze. We played a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Yatzi, but they didn't have maybe they I guess

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<v Speaker 1>they did have a couple of these kind of games.

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<v Speaker 1>But now that they've proliferated, it's a much different Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a different ball game. Yeah, it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the way craft Beers proliferated from what it used to be. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>in Monopoly, they're still around, but now we've got these

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<v Speaker 1>other games, like, maybe it should we just say if

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<v Speaker 1>you something, yeah, it might be the easiest way. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the first one, the gateway drug if you were

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<v Speaker 1>into nerdy board games, is Settlers of Catana. Settlers of

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<v Speaker 1>Catan is the marijuana of yeah, board games. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>probably seen like celebrities now posting that they're playing Settlers

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<v Speaker 1>of Catan or something like that. It's it's gotten to

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<v Speaker 1>that point where everyone knows about it. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>if you have no idea what Settlers of Catan is,

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<v Speaker 1>look it up on Vazon or whatever. Settlers Puerto Rico,

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<v Speaker 1>if these is a big one. The popular one d A.

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<v Speaker 1>Gricola is kind of an old school one ticket ticket

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<v Speaker 1>to Ride super popular. I feel like it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>more classic. Has it been around longer we should? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and Ticket Ride has been around quite a lot. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got I gotta I'm sure it has a wiki page, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, totally dude. Yeah. So in general that this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we're talking about, these kind of games. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know if like Monopoly kind of counts. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Risk risk is on the edge,

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<v Speaker 1>just on the outside edge. I would say it's close

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<v Speaker 1>but not quite. Well, it's definitely before that what I

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<v Speaker 1>would call the I'm gonna make this up. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>a real thing, the board game revolution. Yeah, that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like happened in the nineties. Yeah, of course everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows about that. Down the hatches didn't coming in American history. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more like world history because all these games come

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<v Speaker 1>from Germany, right anyway, But so that's what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I would. And besides using the term nerdy

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<v Speaker 1>board games, the best other term I think I can

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<v Speaker 1>use is strategy board games. Strategy board games to board games.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the reason they I'll take a long time

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<v Speaker 1>to play. Yeah, I think the reason something like Monopoly

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<v Speaker 1>and Risk don't make the cut is because they're way

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<v Speaker 1>too chance oriented. They're they're almost completely chance oriented. There's

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<v Speaker 1>some skill involved, but these ones, I guess if you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at it like a pendulum, Risk is going to

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<v Speaker 1>come down on the side of it's more chance based.

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<v Speaker 1>And the strategy board games we're talking about, some of

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<v Speaker 1>them more or less, but they're gonna come always come

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<v Speaker 1>down on the side of it's more guild based. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>the decisions you make through the course of play definitely

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<v Speaker 1>affects if you're gonna win or not compared to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>play Monopoly or Risk or something like that. You can

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<v Speaker 1>be you can play and then a seven year old

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<v Speaker 1>could win. Yeah. Yeah, not that seven year old is

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<v Speaker 1>not smart. It's not what I'm saying. However, I know

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<v Speaker 1>more than that seven year old, and I'm gonna rub

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<v Speaker 1>it in their face. That's totally your attitude when you

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<v Speaker 1>play with kids, and it's disheartening to watch. I gotta say, so,

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<v Speaker 1>why else, then, why do you like these books? Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>they're fun? Yeah, I think so. For me, there are

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to get to hang out with friends or

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<v Speaker 1>my wife and get to do something that is different

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<v Speaker 1>instead of the default. You mean, maybe to like sit

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<v Speaker 1>down in front of the TV and you know, flip

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<v Speaker 1>flip over to Netflix or something totally. We try to

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<v Speaker 1>We try to do that rarely, you know, once a

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<v Speaker 1>week maybe, And this is that perfect thing, especially at

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<v Speaker 1>home after we put the kids down, if we're tired,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, cool, let's play a game for an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>We can do that. We can you know, engage your

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<v Speaker 1>minds and we can talk to one another while we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. Yeah, that's one. That's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>Kate likes it so much too, just being all the talk. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and with family as well. I mean, we love playing

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<v Speaker 1>these games like over the holidays, like catching up with

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<v Speaker 1>family and kind of hanging out because you know, sitting

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<v Speaker 1>down and just talking about stuff, it's you can be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of intense. So having you know, if you're working

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<v Speaker 1>on a plane playing the game you like the pro

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and the anti Trump and you're like, oh, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just move on from It's kind of ease the tension here.

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<v Speaker 1>You play Take It to Ride, uh since specifically, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one that we introduced to my dad. He never

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<v Speaker 1>played before before this uh this past Christmas, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know he's just like one about carcass Ow and like

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<v Speaker 1>Larder that one last year, and I think he was

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<v Speaker 1>ready to play that, but we taught him how to

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<v Speaker 1>play Ticket to Ride and he he he loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>He won one. Uh second night we were playing. Yeah, Bryan,

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<v Speaker 1>way to go, Tim. It took me out. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the things Kate loves is just being

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<v Speaker 1>able to kind of hang out in person, face to

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<v Speaker 1>face catch up some but it's not such like an

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<v Speaker 1>intense time, you know, you've got that gang going on,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the third like a third party sort of

0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:03.680
<v Speaker 1>distraction in a way. But at the same time, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like a football game where if that's on, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all it's gonna do is just steal all of your

0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 1>attention and stuck your energy. If it's on, you can't

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:13.200
<v Speaker 1>pay attention to them talking, You're not You're not hanging

0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:15.720
<v Speaker 1>out and talking. You're just kind of all doing that instead.

0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I completely agree. So board games, nerdy board games are

0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:21.480
<v Speaker 1>super fun. That we've defined them now, you know, kind

0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:22.960
<v Speaker 1>of some of the ones that are popular. At the

0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:24.919
<v Speaker 1>end of the episode will kind of tell you some

0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:27.240
<v Speaker 1>of our favorites, and on the website will list out

0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.440
<v Speaker 1>five or ten of our top favorites too. Another reason

0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I think board games are so awesome is that they

0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:35.880
<v Speaker 1>save you money. Some of these board games, I will

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<v Speaker 1>not lie, are really expensive. You might even drop sixty

0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:42.159
<v Speaker 1>dollars for one of these board games if you get

0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.240
<v Speaker 1>super hardcore into it and want one of the expensive ones.

0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Some of the more basic ones we're talking about probably

0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:51.840
<v Speaker 1>start in the high teams. Probably twenty bucks, there's like

0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:53.760
<v Speaker 1>thirty bucks or something like that. Yeah, probably twenty to

0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:56.000
<v Speaker 1>forty for most of them. But the great thing is

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:57.960
<v Speaker 1>they save you so much money because there's so much

0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:01.359
<v Speaker 1>replayability to some of these good games. An infinity amount

0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:04.719
<v Speaker 1>of games can be played after once you actually get

0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the game and learn how to learn how to play it,

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:08.879
<v Speaker 1>well man, instead of renting a movie or no one

0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 1>rents a movie anymore, I guess, but instead of like

0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:13.399
<v Speaker 1>red Box, red box R I guess, like, yeah, you

0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.800
<v Speaker 1>run one off of Amazon, or even if you're considering

0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:17.119
<v Speaker 1>going out and just like wow, maybe we can just

0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:19.240
<v Speaker 1>stay in Boom. You've got the game already, You've got it,

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:23.000
<v Speaker 1>got tons of choices. It's always a different Yeah, totally,

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:24.760
<v Speaker 1>And I love the idea. I don't know about if

0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:26.240
<v Speaker 1>your your mind thinks about it like this, But like

0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:28.720
<v Speaker 1>when I bought my bike, I've been kind of keeping

0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:30.520
<v Speaker 1>track of the miles. I've got a little o dominter

0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:32.480
<v Speaker 1>on my bike, and so I'm kind of waiting to

0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:34.719
<v Speaker 1>hit that point where I've hit the amount of miles

0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:39.080
<v Speaker 1>where we're basically I passed the It's cheaper, it's like

0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a dollar a mile, right, So I'm thinking, Okay, I

0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:44.360
<v Speaker 1>spent thirte dollars on this bike. Once I hit that

0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.080
<v Speaker 1>mile marker, I've hit the dollar a mile and then

0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like going down, down down from there, it's even

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:52.199
<v Speaker 1>cheaper and cheaps. That's the kind of way I think

0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:54.480
<v Speaker 1>about board games. So basically, the more you play it,

0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the cheaper it is. Exactly per play, you're like, man,

0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>this is getting cheaper every day to play, Like, I've

0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 1>only played that one six times. I need that You'll

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:02.000
<v Speaker 1>play that one a few more times to start to

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:03.879
<v Speaker 1>get my get my value, get my money's worth out

0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 1>of it. So that's the great thing about these board

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 1>games is you know, some of these games. We've played

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 1>some of these games, Emily and I probably played fifty

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 1>or sixty times, and the replayability is still great. And

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe you know what, we haven't played it

0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 1>for six months, but we'll come back to it because

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 1>it's such a good game, and we'll play three times

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 1>in a week. Um. So yeah, that kind of that

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:27.520
<v Speaker 1>facet to the game is you buy something one time.

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe you can get it used whatever, that's cool,

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 1>that's even cheaper. But you buy it one time and

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 1>then you've got all this replayability and you can trade

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.399
<v Speaker 1>it with friends, you know, we've tried. I've got one

0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:39.360
<v Speaker 1>version of Ticket to Ride and you've got another, Matt,

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and we can you know, I got the European version

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:43.680
<v Speaker 1>we can swap, which is great. How did you get

0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:46.879
<v Speaker 1>started playing some of these these nerdy board games? So

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>was it? Was it actually settlers for you? Yeah? The

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:52.399
<v Speaker 1>first one was because it was and it was with

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 1>a friend and they were just like, hey, you want

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:57.440
<v Speaker 1>to get into this? And I was like, this is

0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 1>this like Dungeons and Dragons? Man, I don't question is that.

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:03.800
<v Speaker 1>It's it's like their propositioning you tobe, like like they

0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:06.000
<v Speaker 1>knew that you were going to get addicted. Its like, hey,

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 1>are you sure you want to get this? He said

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:11.360
<v Speaker 1>it in that underhanded voice, you know, he you want

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>to do this? Like I don't know, I'm young and impressurable. Yeah,

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:18.679
<v Speaker 1>that was definitely so for for me it was post

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 1>college and is when I was broke living up in

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. That was the first time I remember first

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 1>the first time playing it and and for that reason

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 1>it was awesome because we didn't have any money to

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 1>go out. Literally, we would just like chop wood for fun.

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.439
<v Speaker 1>I probably because we did it for for the in

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:40.160
<v Speaker 1>your George, not my joy. I was actually probably wearing

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:43.639
<v Speaker 1>the jeans then that are now all right. I hang

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 1>on the stuff a long time, a long life cycle

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 1>for those. But yeah, I didn't have any money to

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>go out to a movie or whatever it was folks

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 1>were doing, and so we would, I mean we'd hang out,

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.399
<v Speaker 1>hang out at at the Red House, that's what we

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 1>called it. And because it was purple, right, you know it?

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.680
<v Speaker 1>And we mean when we played a ton of specifically Settlers,

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't even think we got into anything

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:06.399
<v Speaker 1>else because we had just learned it and loved it,

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 1>loved it so much. Yeah, well until I think, you know,

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Settlers like went so far when you first learned it

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and went so far. I remember for a couple of

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>years I had like birthday parties where we like play Settlers.

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I remember remember that. Yeah, and it just had

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.640
<v Speaker 1>so much replayability to tournament. But there's a turning point, Yeah,

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.120
<v Speaker 1>once you get one or two games past that. I mean,

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 1>we haven't played Settlers in like five years now, probably.

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I literally can't remember the last time. It's

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 1>it's been a while. Yeah, because like once you get it.

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:33.360
<v Speaker 1>But okay, so did you grow. It would be good

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>to go back to it, though, because a lot of

0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 1>games don't have that. There's a there's a human element

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 1>and settlers specifically, and we're referring to the trading aspect

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 1>of it, that you can really antagonize each other and

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 1>make enemies or you know, make people like you. But

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the other games don't have that aspect true,

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>which is something I kind of miss, Yeah, because I

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>like there's a there's a certain human human element that's

0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of fun to kind of poke and product people

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:04.639
<v Speaker 1>with your ridiculous trades. Yeah, that one's got going on.

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 1>So okay for you? Did you grow up playing playing

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>board games? Yeah? Yeah, well, I mean you mentioned sorry

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 1>that was one I want to say that was honestly

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 1>one of the early because that's what is that like

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.360
<v Speaker 1>a counting game, right, like you religious and then that's

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>essentially what it is. And there's something in middle school

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 1>years and stuff middle school, high school? Did you did

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 1>you play more of those kind of like getting into

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 1>that more little more strategic. Not really, I mean that

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>was like the air of middle school especially. That was

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 1>that was I was just outside playing. I grew up

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>in Augusta, so I was playing golf literally every day.

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean we come up from school play like five holes.

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't play any games, I think in in middle

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>school or high school, and not even college either, because

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 1>college is all about hanging out and that's true college. Yeah,

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 1>none for me. We'd played poker, that's about it. Yeah. Yeah,

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I never got into poker. I had some had friends

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that they would get together and do the Texas holding night.

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:57.399
<v Speaker 1>Always felt a little like, oh man, this kind of sucks.

0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not part of that. But I didn't want to play.

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I would just didn't have any interest in it. Just

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 1>seems you didn't. Yeah, it seemed like a good time

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 1>to get together, like the social aspect of it, but

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the actual game, it's just it's cards. There's some card

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 1>games that are out there that people love, I know,

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>But so I would play I would play Risk in

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>high school with my buddies, and so I really liked

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>games like that already. Um and like I said, Risk

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 1>is probably the closest one that's just on the other side,

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and so I was kind of already into that stuff.

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 1>And and then you know, finding these other board games

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:27.919
<v Speaker 1>was has just been such a fun outlet for me

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and a great sense of you know, you find people

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 1>that love what you love and and they are into

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.159
<v Speaker 1>it like that, and you find this little community that

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't know existed, just like the craft beer community

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that we're into. So it's kind of it's super fun

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>in that way. Yeah, you can go pretty hard into

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 1>anything that you want. Yeah, but I would encourage you

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>if you're looking for a hobby that's going to save

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>you money, this is This is one of those things

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 1>because really some of my friends have these like shelves

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>with like forty board games on them. You know, I've

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 1>got like eight or nine board games that I love

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 1>that I absolutely love, and then I play with other

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>people that have other board games too. But it's not

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>a very expensive hobby, and the amount of replay ability

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>that you can get from it is freaking fantastic. So

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I would say if you're looking for a cheap hobby,

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>this is a great one to kind of waite into.

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>One of the reasons I love these board games is

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>that they teach you so specifically. What I mean is

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 1>that for me, they kind of trained my mind to

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>think in ways that are strategic that can be applied

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to real life. And so if you're sitting there. Again,

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>if you're sitting there playing a video game or watching TV,

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 1>you don't really think. You don't use your brain in

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:34.919
<v Speaker 1>the in the same way that you do when you're

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>When you're playing these games, you're really passive as opposed

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>to active. I feel like that way with anytime there's

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>a screen involved, it's passive. You're just looking at the

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty picture completely. It was like pretty colors and cool

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>graphics and whatever, you know. I was just thinking that

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>this morning as my eldest daughter, who's four and a half,

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>was sitting on the couch and she had this piece,

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>big piece of plastic that was about the size of

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:57.959
<v Speaker 1>an iPad, and she was pretending that it was an iPad,

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>and I dud Evie does that too. We don't let

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>them have screens, and so it was. I just thought

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>it was amazing though, that her brain was active and

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>when she is in front of a screen like a television,

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>because that's what she like, talking and playing with it

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and doing different stuff like beat. It was so awesome

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>to see her mind engaged like that, sitting there zombed

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>out watching Moana, Because if it was actually an iPad,

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>she would not be communicating or doing anything fun. And

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I love to see her brain work because and and

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>that's why we avoid screens. We can talk about that

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>another time, but it's so cool to see that, you know,

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>you're right, you're actually completely passive in front of one

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>of those. And the same thing applies with with with

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>these games is that so not only your brain is

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>working while you're doing that, but I think you literally

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>learned strategies that can be applied to real life. Right,

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>And so you've got typically you must always have a

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>limited resources, and you're playing these games and you have

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to make decisions, right, there's trade offs. It's like I'm

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 1>either going to go this route or I'm gonna go

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:53.959
<v Speaker 1>this route, you know, like this sort of the strategy

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try to play to win the game, or

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with this other strategy. And that's life,

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>you know. It's it's just whether it's like, am I

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna go You can apply it to anything. Am I

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna go for the job that's got the big paycheck?

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's gonna mean I'm gonna have to sacrifice

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>some maybe some other things. It means I'm gonna have

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>to go into debt. Now we're talking about the game

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 1>of life. Oh wait a minute, I remember playing that.

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>That one didn't even come up. It's a strong one. Oh,

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>that's so funny. That's totally true. Like do I go

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>to college or do I go straight to the job.

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>You're literally making those decisions in the game. But but

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's so that applies. I think so well though,

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>from these games directly directly to life. Yeah, I completely agree.

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that these games are sharpening my brain as

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I am thinking through different strategies and I have to

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I have to keep a lot of things in my

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>head at one time, especially with some of these more

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>intricate games that I like to play, and so having

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>to think about, Okay, what could possibly be coming up,

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and what do I have in my hand depending on

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>what the game is, right, and what resources do I

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:00.719
<v Speaker 1>have at my disposal? And do I want to like

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 1>use all of them now? Probably not, I need to

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>have some for two rounds from now. And there's all

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>those sorts of things that go into your head, and

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I just I think it's so yeah, a really fun

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 1>way to exercise your brain that is super active and

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>super interesting and really fun, and my brain gets that

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 1>in some ways in other parts of life. But there's

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>something specific about playing these nerdy board games that my

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>brain doesn't work like that in any other time. I

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>don't like. Yeah, it condenses an entire lifetime. And so

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>say a one hour or two hour game, right, and

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 1>so you're starting off and then kind of building this thing. Well,

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that's what we're doing. Our entire life is, you know,

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>trying to build up whatever it is that we're you know,

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>our goals are. So it's gratifying in that way. Obviously

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>if you win, it's more gratifying. But it's true. And

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and I want to say this too. It's hearing you

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>describe it, it almost sounds a little bit stressful, but

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not because it's a game and when you're done,

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>you're done with it. It's not like real life where

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>something is just still hanging over you. If you if

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, if some if it's something that you haven't addressed,

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>it's something that once you once you're done playing with it,

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>all right, done, Yeah, box back up on the shelf

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>or put in the cabinet in if it does come on.

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>If it does sound a little stressful to you, I

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>would encourage you to start off with some of the

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 1>easier board games. Yeah, that's true. And so let's talk

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>about some maybe the easy ones that we would recommend.

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>The gateway drugs if you will into strategic board games,

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and we already mentioned Settlers of Catan. That's probably literally

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the number one that you should start off with. It

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>you'll get years and years of gameplay out of if

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>you've never played any of these games before, that's when

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>you should really start off with. And it's just fun again,

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>like I mentioned that human aspect of it, just trading

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>from one person to another and people get mad at

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>each other and it's just fun. It's just fun to

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>be a part of. I think, start throwing beers at

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>each other. Whatever. Yeah, I think another easy one then

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>two is Carca San Yes, I was gonna say that. Yeah,

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I think Carcasson might even be easier to learn than,

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>uh than Settlers, because you don't have to memorize what

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 1>your resources you're trying to get to build whatever thing

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to build. Carkson is a little more of

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>a a tile laying game, yeah time, which is super fun. Yeah,

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 1>We've we've gotten a lot of plays out of that.

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Settlers is sort of a tile game, but really it's

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>a board game. Like you use the tiles and you

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 1>build the board, but then you're playing on that board

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>the whole entire thing. Versus car Carcoson. It's yeah, it's

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>a tile laying game where you're building games. Of all

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 1>the games that I own, I think Carcoson might be

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the one I've played the most things. Oh, because you

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 1>can knock out I mean you and I can knock

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>out a game of carcass I mean we do this

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>on vacation minutes. Oh man, you remember, uh, I just

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>thought of when we got yelled at for playing on

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>vacation because we played like eight rounds and one night. Yeah,

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>it was like two or three in the morning. This

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>was down in our wives, like when are you coming

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>to bed? It's coming full circle. This is when we're

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>down in Florida and when we get on vacation together,

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>which isn't all the time, but we try to go

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>on a trip with you guys once a year. Yeah,

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>once a year or so, we try to bring a

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>couple of games, right, or maybe focus on one that

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>we just hit real hard the whole week, but that

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 1>that year it was it was Carcassone and I remember,

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, we went hard. We just bat duking it out,

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>man kept one back and forth. Uh. But yeah, that's

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that's one. That's a great sort of starter starter board

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>game to pick up. I think Splendor is another good one.

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty quick. Is that that the jewels? Yeah, card

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>flipping and you're coloring claring coins to buy more cards

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:22.359
<v Speaker 1>too to win the game. Uh, And that's a good

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>that's a good easy one. And Ticket to Ride is another,

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I would say easy one. I would recommend that you

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>can these. By easy, we mean shorter time frame, easier concepts,

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>less to hold in your mind while you're going through it.

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:36.879
<v Speaker 1>So it's just the principles of it are more basic

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>in elementry. Yeah, and for whatever reason, those are the

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 1>ones I like. So yeah, so you can read into

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>that whatever you'd like. So it's some of the some

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>of the medium level board games. So I think that

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>one that Emily and I've been playing a lot, and

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>we introduced you guys too recently was viticulture. Yeah, where

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you are basically making your own winery and you've got

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you've got a vine, your and you're you're planting grapes

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:04.919
<v Speaker 1>and you're making lines and you're filling wine orders. It's

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 1>really really fun game. And I will say one of

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the other elements of these games that I love is

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:13.240
<v Speaker 1>the artwork. They're beautiful games, So many of them are beautiful,

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>and Viticulture in particular is probably the most beautiful game

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that I own, and I love to get out of

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the box and I love to play it because it's

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.919
<v Speaker 1>just so dang pretty. Every time I open it helps

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 1>you relax, you feel like you're in Italy or yeah,

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit man, where is it supposed to be? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>So a lot of these board games, I think we

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>mentioned it earlier, but I think almost all, not all

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of them, but a lot a lot of them are German,

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and for whatever reason, the Germans like making these kind

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:45.839
<v Speaker 1>of the supply chain sort of efficiency driven games where

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>you have to figure out these, you know, the most

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 1>efficient way to build whatever it is that you're trying

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>to build. I guess it's not surprising now that, yeah,

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:54.879
<v Speaker 1>you start talking about you're like, oh, that makes sense.

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>That sounds like the Germans. That sounds like them, But

0:35:58.080 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>they always sound like the names of the guy that

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>created it. On the box too, and it's always like

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Hans Jurgen and all these names that we laugh at,

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>but now we now we kind of want to meet

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 1>them now where they're kind of our idols in a way,

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>we're getting to be ultra nerds. Another great medium level

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:19.959
<v Speaker 1>game that I love is a game called a Choir.

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.879
<v Speaker 1>I would say it's probably between easy and medium, uh,

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:26.359
<v Speaker 1>And that's really really fun, super easy one to learn,

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, but you have to keep a little

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>more in your mind the whole game, so you have

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 1>to kind of try to keep track if you can,

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 1>what other people have in their hand card wise, which

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>is kind of fun, but it's also a little more

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>more intense, more intense to try to remember all those things.

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>What about I was gonna say, what about Agricola? Where

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 1>do you consider that to be the more more complicated one.

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I say that gets into that gets into hard pro

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 1>level thing. I think it gets in a little bit harder,

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>but you can it's got like two thousand pieces. There's

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:57.439
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of pieces, a lot of little chips

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>and cards. So as you can imagine by the name

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:02.720
<v Speaker 1>of Gricola, like literally you have like an ancient farm

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 1>and you're got animals and vegetables, and you're basically building

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>a family and a farm, probably set in I don't know,

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>like the fourteen hundreds. Yeah, I don't know, something like that,

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>so in like Surfdom Days or something. But it's really

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>really fun and Emily and I've gotten a lot of

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:20.839
<v Speaker 1>play out of that game too, because some of these

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.959
<v Speaker 1>games you can play two players. Some of them require more, yeah,

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>three or four players each, but a greatly you can

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>play with two players, right, yeah, and that's great, and

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 1>that's that's one of the reasons we love Carcassone as well.

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>You can play that obviously you were talking about you

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 1>and me playing that, but take it to Ride to

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:36.320
<v Speaker 1>you can play two players. Yeah, I haven't played it

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>with two players. I think that's what's great about some

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>of these games is that the rules just change a

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit with two players. They some of the options

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>aren't available right like they would be if if you

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>have three, three or four players exactly exactly. And so

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I would say one of my like probably my favorite

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 1>game right now, and it's one of those that we

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>joked about, but literally it takes like four hours to

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>play with and I don't think you can't play with

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 1>two two people, So I play usually with a group

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>of guys. Uh. It's a game called Nations. It's amazing,

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 1>like Risk on Crack. It's kind of like you're literally

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 1>running through all of history and you're building a civilization.

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 1>It's incredible. That sounds like Pandemic. Uh did you play Pandemic? Yeah,

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 1>like Pandemic. Pandemic is one of the rare ones where

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you work together, which is kind of fun. So you're

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>not competing against each other, you're actually work man together.

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.360
<v Speaker 1>That's true. That that's why. That's why I don't like that. Yeah,

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 1>because it doesn't feel like you win because it's like

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 1>there's no enemy. Oh we all want well and then

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>none of us. Yeah, exactly. You want to You want

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 1>to be able to beat somebody that you're looking at.

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 1>It's true. Yeah, that's all I am. I'm I don't know,

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm more competitive now I am too. I like to win, man.

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, working together it's like, okay, we beat It's

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 1>like beating the computer. It's like beating the game or

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>something that's like, well, that's to me, that's not as

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 1>fun as Mario Kart, where you're facing off and you know,

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:54.319
<v Speaker 1>attacking each other. True. Yeah, So we'll list some of

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 1>our favorite games are top five up on the web

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 1>post the show notes, and we'll also linked to I

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>would say one of the best websites for you to

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 1>learn more about these games to get more interested is

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>a website called board game geek dot com, and they

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of rank these games, and those rankings are constantly changing.

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like untapped, but for board games, right

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>exactly exactly, it's if you want to go way down

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the rabbit hole. Uh. And one of the things I

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 1>would recommend to you if you're interested in these games

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 1>is looking at YouTube tutorials. Sometimes the rule books can

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 1>be really lengthy, and so watching a YouTube video where

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:34.359
<v Speaker 1>someone watchs you through the steps of how to play

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the game can be super helpful. Can take you ten

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>or twelve minutes as opposed to thirty minutes to an

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 1>hour trying to read through the books. Yeah, and then

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 1>remember at all. So if you actually get to watch

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>someone play through it a little bit or explain it

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>to you and show you the basics of gameplay, it

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 1>can kind of really help speed up things as you're

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 1>as you're getting into the games, or obviously I mean

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:54.399
<v Speaker 1>if you've got a friend that knows how to play, man,

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 1>that's just that's always the best way to learn. Just

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>have them over or next time they invite you over,

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:00.879
<v Speaker 1>take them up on it and sit down and play,

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and it will be a much better experience than for

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>for people that sit down to play and they've never

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>played before. I can take a long time and maybe

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>not be the most fun. So we mentioned YouTube two

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>podcasts in a row. So if you need to fix

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 1>a water heater YouTube, and if you need to learn

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>how to play a dorkeyboard game YouTube. It's kind of

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the best. It's pretty great. And they've got the YouTube

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 1>TV now they're like trying to take over. It's true.

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 1>She's actually, yeah, trying to knock out the cable companies

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and some of the other other content providers. Yeah, I'm

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:33.760
<v Speaker 1>all for it, man. And if you need like puppy

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 1>videos YouTube just to make you feel better, I don't.

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't watch many many puppy videos. I mean either, no,

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, I mean neither. Man. What you're talking

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 1>about puppy videos? Yeah? Those are lame? Uh Yeah, So

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 1>let's let's get back to the beer man. What do

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 1>you think about this Golden Angel. It's pretty freaking awesome.

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 1>It's super heavy on the apricot. It's really it's got

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 1>like I said earlier, it's got a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>that like kind of champagne vibe to it, like a

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<v Speaker 1>white wine champagne apricot sour. I think maybe it might

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the reasons I that I like it

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<v Speaker 1>is that it does kind of taste like all these things,

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<v Speaker 1>and the apricots to me, isn't crazy noticeable. Maybe to

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<v Speaker 1>me that I just don't notice apricots that much as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, it's like a blonde sour ale or

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<v Speaker 1>something like, you know, completely yeah, some of these other

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<v Speaker 1>beers that are heavy on the fruit, it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>very distinct flavor and that's kind of all you taste,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas the apricot it kind of blends into this sort

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<v Speaker 1>of golden blonde flavor profile that I mean, I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to think that I would be able to be like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's an apricot beer. But see, but I think when

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<v Speaker 1>you bite into an apricot, it's got kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>a cidic quality to it, and I think that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I love about it. I think that's yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's exactly why they're perfect for something like this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in these kind of beers. So I yeah, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>huge fan of this beer. It tastes phenomenal. Um mad

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<v Speaker 1>props to Wicked Weed. This is one of my favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>So nice sour, good amount of funk and there's Well

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have to get more in the Angel series as

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<v Speaker 1>we progress, as Matt makes more money so we can

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<v Speaker 1>buy fancy beers. Well, yeah, yeah, you're the one with

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<v Speaker 1>the nine to five with the man. You've got a pension, right,

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>don't you have a pension. It's true, Yeah, I do,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the old school. I do almost nobody to

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.800
<v Speaker 1>your job. Who yeah, who has a pension? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>almost No. Yeah, it's a good job man, It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>So Golden Angel highly recommend it if you have twenty

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<v Speaker 1>bucks you want to spend on a fantastic beer and

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<v Speaker 1>can actually slash Yeah, or if you're even lucky enough

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<v Speaker 1>to come across this because it's it's really good, get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Joel, thanks for getting this beer. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>drinking it with me, buddy, Thanks so much for listening. Everyone.

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