Speaker 1: Welcome to How to Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt,
Speaker 1: and today we're talking about nerdy board games. That's right.
Speaker 1: Today we're talking about nerdy board games. Matt and I
Speaker 1: like to play board games that take a long time,
Speaker 1: a lot of rules. I feel like for most folks
Speaker 1: that's the definition of a nerdy board game. They're like,
Speaker 1: how long is this gonna take? And ours can be
Speaker 1: up to four hours, oh my gosh, usually in the
Speaker 1: two hour range. I would say an hour to two
Speaker 1: hour range. But we feel like my sweet spot now
Speaker 1: is like forty five minutes to an hour and a half, yes,
Speaker 1: with you know, with the kids or just other things
Speaker 1: that I've got I've got going on. I can't it's
Speaker 1: hard to spend four hours playing a game. No, it's true.
Speaker 1: So I've got another set of friends that I play with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you don't usually play with those dudes. You're taking
Speaker 1: it to a whole another level. And we we game
Speaker 1: really hard. Um, but sometimes we'll get together and and
Speaker 1: play and play with our wives and stuff like that too.
Speaker 1: And I like to play with my wife. We play
Speaker 1: board games, and so we want to talk all about
Speaker 1: why we think they're important, Why we think why they're fun,
Speaker 1: what they teach us, and how they actually end up
Speaker 1: saving us money. So nerdy board games are actually kind
Speaker 1: of one of those. It's kind of got a lot
Speaker 1: of that yeah built in and it's one of those
Speaker 1: small spokes in the wheel that we love. I like it. Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so the last episode we we dove into investment
Speaker 1: properties and said this one we decided to kind of
Speaker 1: steer more towards something a little lighter. So if you're
Speaker 1: not like ready to drop thirty grand on a down
Speaker 1: payment on a rental property, that's cool. You can drop
Speaker 1: thirty bucks on a nerdy board game and have hours
Speaker 1: and hours and hours of fun gameplay. Yeah. Every week though,
Speaker 1: we we crack open a beer up or as and
Speaker 1: we pour a beer so poor not poor, and Joel
Speaker 1: has a fantastic beer for us tonight. So Matt, we
Speaker 1: got lucky to find this one. I've only had I've
Speaker 1: had this beer one time in my life. You've never had,
Speaker 1: ever had it. I'm super stoked. I'm really excited to
Speaker 1: share it with you. I legitimately would consider this beer
Speaker 1: top five beers I've ever had in my life. And
Speaker 1: and I've definitely had upboards of beers in my life.
Speaker 1: So this one, this one is one of those crown jewels.
Speaker 1: Have you really had that? Man? Oh yeah, easy, dude,
Speaker 1: look at my untapped different beers. And by the way,
Speaker 1: if you want to follow us on tapped, go to
Speaker 1: poor not Poor dot com and you can you can
Speaker 1: follow that because and I haven't logged all of them,
Speaker 1: but I know from basically what I've logged, and then
Speaker 1: what other beers I've had that I don't log and
Speaker 1: I don't know honestly what my count is, but I
Speaker 1: think I don't have that. Man, Actually, I know I
Speaker 1: don't have that many. That's that seems like a huge number.
Speaker 1: But like, so think about it. I went to the
Speaker 1: Shelton Brothers Beer Festival and I probably tasted oh that's true,
Speaker 1: forty beers in one day, right, And there's like beer
Speaker 1: festivals like that where it adds up, it adds up.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I get around you drink a beer
Speaker 1: a lot. Oh wait, So I don't even think I
Speaker 1: said the name yet. Okay, So the name of the
Speaker 1: beer we're drinking today is Wicked Weed Golden Angel. It's
Speaker 1: a barrel aged American sour ale with Apricots. It's got
Speaker 1: that fruited sour again. Man, that's that's a good it's
Speaker 1: a good style. And so this beer is super hard
Speaker 1: to come by. Although now that Budweiser acquired Wicked Weed,
Speaker 1: they on Black Friday put out some of these beers
Speaker 1: in markets around the country where they where they distribute.
Speaker 1: And I was lucky enough to get my hands on
Speaker 1: a Golden Angel from you guys up on Peachtree. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I got the same shot with my my peeps
Speaker 1: of peach Tree package. They they're they're super kind and
Speaker 1: save me good beers from time to time. Treat you right,
Speaker 1: and they do. And this one, I'm so glad they
Speaker 1: saved it for me. I'm super pumped. So let me
Speaker 1: open it now and we'll do. Kate and I went
Speaker 1: up to the funcatori um up in Asheville, and I
Speaker 1: know I've had the Red Angel and I've had Black Angel.
Speaker 1: I don't know which ones of those I've had. I
Speaker 1: swear I've had one more Angel because the Angels like
Speaker 1: a series. It's like some of their better beer. They
Speaker 1: have a framboot mort which is there like a raspberry
Speaker 1: Belgian style raspberry. I think spontaneously for mented beer. That's
Speaker 1: super fantastic. Not surprisingly, this is pouring a beautiful golden
Speaker 1: I'm glad it looks so good and I hope it
Speaker 1: tastes that good because this bottle, it was twenty and
Speaker 1: that's a lot. We like it beca This isn't a
Speaker 1: huge bottle. This isn't one of those seven fifties. This
Speaker 1: is I believe. So we're each getting probably roughly so
Speaker 1: one point one point point nine ounce eight and a
Speaker 1: half ounces each. They use one pound of whole fresh
Speaker 1: apricots per gallon. That's a lot of fruit. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: you can go online. The episode post will have the
Speaker 1: picture up of the bottle there you can see that
Speaker 1: and the end of the beer in the glass, so
Speaker 1: you can take a look and Golden Angel is. Well,
Speaker 1: let's let's take a take a taste and then we'll
Speaker 1: get into the major tasting notes after after we finished
Speaker 1: talking about nerdy board games. Oh man, that is like
Speaker 1: perfectly balanced. Oh man, it's my Is that is that annoying?
Speaker 1: Is that? Like? My? It's my my tasting catch phrase
Speaker 1: catch line. One of these days we're gonna put t
Speaker 1: shirts with your face on it, and it's just saying
Speaker 1: oh man, oh man, this is so well balanced between
Speaker 1: the I mean you've got that's that's heart tartness with
Speaker 1: the sweetness from the apricot. Really nice like carbonation to
Speaker 1: it as well. Feels Yeah, it feels great in your mouth.
Speaker 1: It's not not too thick and surrupy. It's kind of
Speaker 1: it's still bright. It's almost got like a slight champagne
Speaker 1: like quality to this. Yeah. Absolutely, all right. We'll get
Speaker 1: into the specifics at the very end of tasting notes
Speaker 1: for Golden Angel from Wicked Weed. Man, thanks for going
Speaker 1: on and Graham, now that's great. I'm glad we get
Speaker 1: to taste beers like this. If you don't know, that's
Speaker 1: what we do, man, poor, not poor. We're all about
Speaker 1: pooring a good beer and a living of rich life
Speaker 1: and drinking Golden Angel. Man, I mean that's where that
Speaker 1: and okay, speaking of rich life, what do we do today, Matt?
Speaker 1: That was awesome? Yeah, we uh spent some time riding around.
Speaker 1: We got loaded the girls up and went to a
Speaker 1: local brewery. Right, it has been terrible here in Atlanta
Speaker 1: as far as weather is concerned, and so being able
Speaker 1: to get out in shorts and hop on the bikes
Speaker 1: get the blood flowing or in your case, georgs, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, do we haven't pick it that we can
Speaker 1: post on the website. I hope everyone wants to see
Speaker 1: what is man. You know, what his face looks like
Speaker 1: from the podcast artwork. But fine, if you you know,
Speaker 1: you get to see my shorts, my short shorts. But
Speaker 1: everyone else wants to know what your chicken legs look like, George.
Speaker 1: If they want to see that, that's that's fine. We
Speaker 1: might throw that up there then, all right, maybe for
Speaker 1: your viewing pleasure, keep checking back, check the website. I
Speaker 1: don't care. Sometimes you just want to just throwing some
Speaker 1: shorts on. And that's just what's at the top of
Speaker 1: my top of the drawer. That's what I had. There's
Speaker 1: paint all over. Those are those, I mean, they're work shorts,
Speaker 1: thrilled jeans. And I cut him, trimmed him down into shorts,
Speaker 1: and now that's just what I wear sometimes in public.
Speaker 1: They look fantastic. I was proud of you boring them.
Speaker 1: And so we had a just a wonderful ride, just
Speaker 1: a few miles each way, and Tocal Brewery gets to order.
Speaker 1: A couple of beers hang out outside in the sunlight.
Speaker 1: The girls are having a blast room, meeting neighbors that
Speaker 1: we've never met before, seeing old friends, seeing old friends
Speaker 1: as well, catching up unplanned. That is that's life. I mean,
Speaker 1: if I could do that every every weekend, agreed, Yep,
Speaker 1: I think that's that's my idea of a perfect weekend.
Speaker 1: And so I'm so glad that we got to We
Speaker 1: get to do that, have a lot of fun riding bikes.
Speaker 1: And our buddy got he came along with us as well.
Speaker 1: And he actually he's got a podcast, poem cast poem cast,
Speaker 1: So if you are into or into lungs and how
Speaker 1: they work function, check out his everything pulmonary related. You're
Speaker 1: gonna want to check out poem cast. Yeah, that's something
Speaker 1: he puts on there at at his hospital. But he's
Speaker 1: the man, some of the guys. Yeah, inspiring. Great dude.
Speaker 1: Also shares our affinity to bikes and beer, so he
Speaker 1: and podcasting came along. Yeah, the trifecta. So that's what
Speaker 1: we were up to today. Uh, and feel free to
Speaker 1: if you guys were not on your bikes, and he
Speaker 1: took awesome pictures tweet us not poor Joel, not poor
Speaker 1: Matt on Twitter and uh and let's see what you
Speaker 1: were up to. And if you pull off George better
Speaker 1: than Matt, feel free to tweet us those two those pictures.
Speaker 1: I want to point out to you that I mean,
Speaker 1: there's somewhat ironic George's It's not like I'm I didn't
Speaker 1: grew up in Florida, not at all. It's totally Yeah.
Speaker 1: Any guy in Florida wearing them, that's that's straight up.
Speaker 1: He thinks it looks good. Yeah, oh yeah, he's all
Speaker 1: about it. I wanted to mention to you earlier mentioned
Speaker 1: untapped our accounts. If you get the content our contact
Speaker 1: page on our website at poor not Poor dot com.
Speaker 1: There there there's links up there to everything we've got.
Speaker 1: We've got our page up on Facebook, We've got a
Speaker 1: group up on Facebook, we've got our profiles on untapped,
Speaker 1: in our Twitter accounts, on our Instagram, so everything is
Speaker 1: up there if you're kind of wondering where where to
Speaker 1: find us. And and by the way, we're about to
Speaker 1: get into the subject and hey, in we're talking nerdy
Speaker 1: board games today on the podcast. If you want some
Speaker 1: more meaty material, the last podcast was about investment properties.
Speaker 1: Feel free to go check that out. And we just
Speaker 1: posted an article too about how to save money on insurance.
Speaker 1: So there are a bunch of ideas about how I
Speaker 1: think you can save literally hundreds of dollars a year.
Speaker 1: That you know that Geico commercial of saving fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: Well really, I really think that reading through this thing
Speaker 1: and using some of these strategies can easily help save
Speaker 1: you hundreds of dollars a year on car and home insurance.
Speaker 1: So so check that check that article out if you
Speaker 1: get a minute. That's good stuff. Actually, I just thought
Speaker 1: of something from the brewery from even Tide. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was paying with cash. Oh yeah, that's weird. The only
Speaker 1: reason I had cash in my wall is because it's right.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not ra after Christmas, but i still
Speaker 1: have Christmas money from from family, and I've got a
Speaker 1: birthday in December as well. I don't ever use cash though,
Speaker 1: I just I just never think about it. I forgot
Speaker 1: how to even use cash because the girls like, do
Speaker 1: you want to pay now or start a tab? I
Speaker 1: was just like, well, I've got I've got cash. Do
Speaker 1: I turn this into tokens to then pay you with?
Speaker 1: I don't know. So I mean my entire life literally
Speaker 1: literally starting in high school. I started using a credit
Speaker 1: card and I, you know, I keep up with it
Speaker 1: and pay it off. You know how I am. I'm
Speaker 1: a nerd. Yeah, I tracked all that I want to
Speaker 1: tell you, and you would you would be so happy.
Speaker 1: Emily and I talked about our budget right before we
Speaker 1: came over here tonight. So yeah, we sat down and
Speaker 1: went through heck. Yeah, man, we got the spreadsheet out.
Speaker 1: I'm very proud of you. Yeah, we're killing it. I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, when was the last time you paid cash
Speaker 1: for for something? Especially, I mean even beer. It almost
Speaker 1: never happens. And but I had the same experience actually
Speaker 1: today using cash, but only because I've been selling things
Speaker 1: on the Facebook yard sales site. So I've been saying,
Speaker 1: like decluttering, getting rid of some things, making some extra cash,
Speaker 1: I'll pay you in cash on there usually or or
Speaker 1: Venmo whatever, then more the cash Appum. Yeah, I much
Speaker 1: prefer that totally. I love those things. But why do
Speaker 1: you seem so dirty? Yeah? It kind of wet and
Speaker 1: germs all over. I'd much rather you pay me digitally,
Speaker 1: did you? Yeah? Did you pay for your beers with cash?
Speaker 1: I did today because about because people have been paying
Speaker 1: me and but again it was it is this weird
Speaker 1: thing that I'm almost never paying and I like never
Speaker 1: have cash in my wallet for any reason. So these
Speaker 1: guys are probably like, what are these guys doing rolling
Speaker 1: up with bills in their pocket pockets George and cash.
Speaker 1: These guys must be drug dealers. These guys are from
Speaker 1: like the nineties. These are guys from Florida in the nineties.
Speaker 1: I think it felt different, and I know, like you
Speaker 1: read that how you know, it feels different when you're
Speaker 1: actually spending money. But what I liked about it was
Speaker 1: that I didn't have to sign it. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just gave the money and it was close enough and
Speaker 1: I could I just walked away. Yeah, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it felt kind of cool being able to do that
Speaker 1: and not like sign something the receipt. You know, it's
Speaker 1: easier when they use like the iPad thing and they
Speaker 1: flip it around for you to sign it with your finger.
Speaker 1: That's nice and quick. Yeah I dig that. So okay,
Speaker 1: we both used cash today randomly who knows, and it
Speaker 1: almost never happens. Okay, So last episode we talked about
Speaker 1: what I do for a living, right, and but we
Speaker 1: when we need to talk about you a little bit too. Um,
Speaker 1: do you want to tell folks what you do for
Speaker 1: for a nine of five? Grave Digger? Yeah, that's where
Speaker 1: you get all that, is it? Grave Robber? Is that
Speaker 1: what you steal all these? Oh yeah, then that'd be
Speaker 1: that'd be a different ooculation. I can do both at
Speaker 1: the same time though, So uh no, I work in radio.
Speaker 1: So my my boss. If you're interested in other podcasts
Speaker 1: about money. His name is Clark Howard and he has
Speaker 1: been hosting a consumer advice radio show for thirty years now,
Speaker 1: the original podcast Radio. And you can find him on
Speaker 1: podcast too, so he's usually high up there in the
Speaker 1: business section rankings. And uh he's also been podcasting for
Speaker 1: twelve years, so he's been doing the podcast thing for
Speaker 1: longer than most people have been at it. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: we're newbies here, but if you and Clark, well you
Speaker 1: can call us news. But you're the one that's got
Speaker 1: I mean you've been doing You've been in radio for
Speaker 1: so I wasted ten years now, right, yet I've been
Speaker 1: I've worked with Clark for eleven so I've been radio
Speaker 1: up a little bit longer than that. That's awesome. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, I love what we talk about. I love
Speaker 1: the medium of being able to talk to people long
Speaker 1: form and and help them too. I think that's actually
Speaker 1: literally the coolest thing about my job is we help
Speaker 1: people every day. Yeah, people call in, they ask questions,
Speaker 1: They get help with their finances, with money issues, with
Speaker 1: you know, buying a house, saving for college. I mean
Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff, right, he feels all sorts of
Speaker 1: questionge variety of questions. So it's really really fun to
Speaker 1: get to work on that every day and get to
Speaker 1: help people. And so I just inspired me. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I've got a similar philosophy in a lot of ways
Speaker 1: to Clark, but we also live life a lot differently.
Speaker 1: And so Matt and I love bearing talking about money,
Speaker 1: and uh so we're gonna use this platform on poor
Speaker 1: not poor, hopefully to do something similar and reach a
Speaker 1: different audience. Eleven years of talking on the radio, man,
Speaker 1: that's why everyone was wondering why Joel has that silky
Speaker 1: smooth voice. Well that's that's why it's true. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: just gets better. You know, as you talk more on
Speaker 1: the radio, your voice just turns into pure gold. And
Speaker 1: uh that's a good thing. Is that? Why might sounds
Speaker 1: like crap? You'll get there buddy, you'll get there, you know,
Speaker 1: whereas Evan spent in ten years not talking to people
Speaker 1: and just looking at looking at pictures, looking at a
Speaker 1: computer screen, have to learn how to talk again. Yep,
Speaker 1: you're you're doing great, You're doing great. Sweet. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get into the subject at hand. It's board games.
Speaker 1: We're to talk about why we love them, and the
Speaker 1: first reason because they're fun. Yeah, instead of sitting around
Speaker 1: and watching TV or playing games even online, just the
Speaker 1: different video games that folks are doing. I listened to
Speaker 1: some soccer podcasts and they all they talk about it
Speaker 1: on the show, how they get together not in real
Speaker 1: life but through through the different and they play each other,
Speaker 1: they play you know, in FIFA whatever, and still like,
Speaker 1: that's fun and that's great that you're actually playing against
Speaker 1: someone else and not a computer. However, it's just not
Speaker 1: the same as the true, you know, in person hanging out,
Speaker 1: when you're talking to somebody. There's so much nuance and
Speaker 1: everything else that's missing from It's like it's like getting
Speaker 1: a beer over Skype. Sounds terrible. Yeah, I do not
Speaker 1: want to do that. No, I'm not into that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: board games are so much fun. I think if some
Speaker 1: of the Like literally last year, when Emily and I
Speaker 1: at the beginning of SEEN we were making our goals.
Speaker 1: There were kind of two goals that I had for
Speaker 1: that year, and one was to play more disc golf
Speaker 1: and the other was to play more board games with
Speaker 1: my friends. Because those were just two things, I thought, well,
Speaker 1: what are the there are two of my favorite things
Speaker 1: to do that I don't do enough of, And so
Speaker 1: last year I didn't do as good about playing disc golf,
Speaker 1: but I did do a better job about playing board
Speaker 1: games one or the other. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people choose I want to try to lose weight for
Speaker 1: their new Year's resolution. You know, I'm just felt, dug,
Speaker 1: I don't need that. Instead, you're like, oh, I want
Speaker 1: to play more Yeah, exactly what dude, that's a I
Speaker 1: think it's a good thing as long as both of
Speaker 1: those things for me are usually spent like time spent
Speaker 1: with other people. So it's community. I'm that's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm literally We've never met a more extroverted person than me.
Speaker 1: So I recharged spending time with other people. And I
Speaker 1: really love board games, really love disc golf, and so
Speaker 1: either either way, I'm going to be hanging with people
Speaker 1: doing something I enjoy. It's like a torpedo right in
Speaker 1: the center of my personality. Is perfect. Yeah, it gets
Speaker 1: to play game and socialized to hang out. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: community so not much more fun than that. And my
Speaker 1: wife and I we love to do to to play
Speaker 1: nerdy board games together too. But first let's let's tell
Speaker 1: people what we mean my nerdy board games. So we've
Speaker 1: kind of used this phrase. We've talked about board games.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about candy Land here. I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: you are mad. I don't know, Maybe that's the candy
Speaker 1: Land and ladders. You know all my favorites from as
Speaker 1: a kid growing up. Did you play games growing up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we totally played like Sorry, oh man, I remember, Sorry,
Speaker 1: but Yatsie. My parents loved Yatze. We played a lot
Speaker 1: of Yatzi, but they didn't have maybe they I guess
Speaker 1: they did have a couple of these kind of games.
Speaker 1: But now that they've proliferated, it's a much different Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a different ball game. Yeah, it's kind of like
Speaker 1: the way craft Beers proliferated from what it used to be. Sorry,
Speaker 1: in Monopoly, they're still around, but now we've got these
Speaker 1: other games, like, maybe it should we just say if
Speaker 1: you something, yeah, it might be the easiest way. I
Speaker 1: think the first one, the gateway drug if you were
Speaker 1: into nerdy board games, is Settlers of Catana. Settlers of
Speaker 1: Catan is the marijuana of yeah, board games. So you've
Speaker 1: probably seen like celebrities now posting that they're playing Settlers
Speaker 1: of Catan or something like that. It's it's gotten to
Speaker 1: that point where everyone knows about it. It seems like
Speaker 1: if you have no idea what Settlers of Catan is,
Speaker 1: look it up on Vazon or whatever. Settlers Puerto Rico,
Speaker 1: if these is a big one. The popular one d A.
Speaker 1: Gricola is kind of an old school one ticket ticket
Speaker 1: to Ride super popular. I feel like it's a little
Speaker 1: more classic. Has it been around longer we should? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Ticket Ride has been around quite a lot. It's
Speaker 1: got I gotta I'm sure it has a wiki page, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, totally dude. Yeah. So in general that this
Speaker 1: is what we're talking about, these kind of games. I
Speaker 1: don't even know if like Monopoly kind of counts. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Risk risk is on the edge,
Speaker 1: just on the outside edge. I would say it's close
Speaker 1: but not quite. Well, it's definitely before that what I
Speaker 1: would call the I'm gonna make this up. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: a real thing, the board game revolution. Yeah, that I
Speaker 1: feel like happened in the nineties. Yeah, of course everyone
Speaker 1: knows about that. Down the hatches didn't coming in American history. Man,
Speaker 1: it's more like world history because all these games come
Speaker 1: from Germany, right anyway, But so that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would. And besides using the term nerdy
Speaker 1: board games, the best other term I think I can
Speaker 1: use is strategy board games. Strategy board games to board games.
Speaker 1: I think the reason they I'll take a long time
Speaker 1: to play. Yeah, I think the reason something like Monopoly
Speaker 1: and Risk don't make the cut is because they're way
Speaker 1: too chance oriented. They're they're almost completely chance oriented. There's
Speaker 1: some skill involved, but these ones, I guess if you're
Speaker 1: looking at it like a pendulum, Risk is going to
Speaker 1: come down on the side of it's more chance based.
Speaker 1: And the strategy board games we're talking about, some of
Speaker 1: them more or less, but they're gonna come always come
Speaker 1: down on the side of it's more guild based. Right now,
Speaker 1: the decisions you make through the course of play definitely
Speaker 1: affects if you're gonna win or not compared to you know,
Speaker 1: play Monopoly or Risk or something like that. You can
Speaker 1: be you can play and then a seven year old
Speaker 1: could win. Yeah. Yeah, not that seven year old is
Speaker 1: not smart. It's not what I'm saying. However, I know
Speaker 1: more than that seven year old, and I'm gonna rub
Speaker 1: it in their face. That's totally your attitude when you
Speaker 1: play with kids, and it's disheartening to watch. I gotta say, so,
Speaker 1: why else, then, why do you like these books? Obviously
Speaker 1: they're fun? Yeah, I think so. For me, there are
Speaker 1: a chance to get to hang out with friends or
Speaker 1: my wife and get to do something that is different
Speaker 1: instead of the default. You mean, maybe to like sit
Speaker 1: down in front of the TV and you know, flip
Speaker 1: flip over to Netflix or something totally. We try to
Speaker 1: We try to do that rarely, you know, once a
Speaker 1: week maybe, And this is that perfect thing, especially at
Speaker 1: home after we put the kids down, if we're tired,
Speaker 1: it's okay, cool, let's play a game for an hour.
Speaker 1: We can do that. We can you know, engage your
Speaker 1: minds and we can talk to one another while we're
Speaker 1: doing it. Yeah, that's one. That's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: Kate likes it so much too, just being all the talk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and with family as well. I mean, we love playing
Speaker 1: these games like over the holidays, like catching up with
Speaker 1: family and kind of hanging out because you know, sitting
Speaker 1: down and just talking about stuff, it's you can be
Speaker 1: kind of intense. So having you know, if you're working
Speaker 1: on a plane playing the game you like the pro
Speaker 1: Trump and the anti Trump and you're like, oh, let's
Speaker 1: just move on from It's kind of ease the tension here.
Speaker 1: You play Take It to Ride, uh since specifically, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's one that we introduced to my dad. He never
Speaker 1: played before before this uh this past Christmas, and you
Speaker 1: know he's just like one about carcass Ow and like
Speaker 1: Larder that one last year, and I think he was
Speaker 1: ready to play that, but we taught him how to
Speaker 1: play Ticket to Ride and he he he loved it.
Speaker 1: He won one. Uh second night we were playing. Yeah, Bryan,
Speaker 1: way to go, Tim. It took me out. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's one of the things Kate loves is just being
Speaker 1: able to kind of hang out in person, face to
Speaker 1: face catch up some but it's not such like an
Speaker 1: intense time, you know, you've got that gang going on,
Speaker 1: you've got the third like a third party sort of
Speaker 1: distraction in a way. But at the same time, it's
Speaker 1: not like a football game where if that's on, that's
Speaker 1: all it's gonna do is just steal all of your
Speaker 1: attention and stuck your energy. If it's on, you can't
Speaker 1: pay attention to them talking, You're not You're not hanging
Speaker 1: out and talking. You're just kind of all doing that instead.
Speaker 1: I completely agree. So board games, nerdy board games are
Speaker 1: super fun. That we've defined them now, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of some of the ones that are popular. At the
Speaker 1: end of the episode will kind of tell you some
Speaker 1: of our favorites, and on the website will list out
Speaker 1: five or ten of our top favorites too. Another reason
Speaker 1: I think board games are so awesome is that they
Speaker 1: save you money. Some of these board games, I will
Speaker 1: not lie, are really expensive. You might even drop sixty
Speaker 1: dollars for one of these board games if you get
Speaker 1: super hardcore into it and want one of the expensive ones.
Speaker 1: Some of the more basic ones we're talking about probably
Speaker 1: start in the high teams. Probably twenty bucks, there's like
Speaker 1: thirty bucks or something like that. Yeah, probably twenty to
Speaker 1: forty for most of them. But the great thing is
Speaker 1: they save you so much money because there's so much
Speaker 1: replayability to some of these good games. An infinity amount
Speaker 1: of games can be played after once you actually get
Speaker 1: the game and learn how to learn how to play it,
Speaker 1: well man, instead of renting a movie or no one
Speaker 1: rents a movie anymore, I guess, but instead of like
Speaker 1: red Box, red box R I guess, like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: run one off of Amazon, or even if you're considering
Speaker 1: going out and just like wow, maybe we can just
Speaker 1: stay in Boom. You've got the game already, You've got it,
Speaker 1: got tons of choices. It's always a different Yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: And I love the idea. I don't know about if
Speaker 1: your your mind thinks about it like this, But like
Speaker 1: when I bought my bike, I've been kind of keeping
Speaker 1: track of the miles. I've got a little o dominter
Speaker 1: on my bike, and so I'm kind of waiting to
Speaker 1: hit that point where I've hit the amount of miles
Speaker 1: where we're basically I passed the It's cheaper, it's like
Speaker 1: a dollar a mile, right, So I'm thinking, Okay, I
Speaker 1: spent thirte dollars on this bike. Once I hit that
Speaker 1: mile marker, I've hit the dollar a mile and then
Speaker 1: I'm like going down, down down from there, it's even
Speaker 1: cheaper and cheaps. That's the kind of way I think
Speaker 1: about board games. So basically, the more you play it,
Speaker 1: the cheaper it is. Exactly per play, you're like, man,
Speaker 1: this is getting cheaper every day to play, Like, I've
Speaker 1: only played that one six times. I need that You'll
Speaker 1: play that one a few more times to start to
Speaker 1: get my get my value, get my money's worth out
Speaker 1: of it. So that's the great thing about these board
Speaker 1: games is you know, some of these games. We've played
Speaker 1: some of these games, Emily and I probably played fifty
Speaker 1: or sixty times, and the replayability is still great. And
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you know what, we haven't played it
Speaker 1: for six months, but we'll come back to it because
Speaker 1: it's such a good game, and we'll play three times
Speaker 1: in a week. Um. So yeah, that kind of that
Speaker 1: facet to the game is you buy something one time.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you can get it used whatever, that's cool,
Speaker 1: that's even cheaper. But you buy it one time and
Speaker 1: then you've got all this replayability and you can trade
Speaker 1: it with friends, you know, we've tried. I've got one
Speaker 1: version of Ticket to Ride and you've got another, Matt,
Speaker 1: and we can you know, I got the European version
Speaker 1: we can swap, which is great. How did you get
Speaker 1: started playing some of these these nerdy board games? So
Speaker 1: was it? Was it actually settlers for you? Yeah? The
Speaker 1: first one was because it was and it was with
Speaker 1: a friend and they were just like, hey, you want
Speaker 1: to get into this? And I was like, this is
Speaker 1: this like Dungeons and Dragons? Man, I don't question is that.
Speaker 1: It's it's like their propositioning you tobe, like like they
Speaker 1: knew that you were going to get addicted. Its like, hey,
Speaker 1: are you sure you want to get this? He said
Speaker 1: it in that underhanded voice, you know, he you want
Speaker 1: to do this? Like I don't know, I'm young and impressurable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was definitely so for for me it was post
Speaker 1: college and is when I was broke living up in
Speaker 1: North Carolina. That was the first time I remember first
Speaker 1: the first time playing it and and for that reason
Speaker 1: it was awesome because we didn't have any money to
Speaker 1: go out. Literally, we would just like chop wood for fun.
Speaker 1: I probably because we did it for for the in
Speaker 1: your George, not my joy. I was actually probably wearing
Speaker 1: the jeans then that are now all right. I hang
Speaker 1: on the stuff a long time, a long life cycle
Speaker 1: for those. But yeah, I didn't have any money to
Speaker 1: go out to a movie or whatever it was folks
Speaker 1: were doing, and so we would, I mean we'd hang out,
Speaker 1: hang out at at the Red House, that's what we
Speaker 1: called it. And because it was purple, right, you know it?
Speaker 1: And we mean when we played a ton of specifically Settlers,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even think we got into anything
Speaker 1: else because we had just learned it and loved it,
Speaker 1: loved it so much. Yeah, well until I think, you know,
Speaker 1: Settlers like went so far when you first learned it
Speaker 1: and went so far. I remember for a couple of
Speaker 1: years I had like birthday parties where we like play Settlers.
Speaker 1: Yeah I remember remember that. Yeah, and it just had
Speaker 1: so much replayability to tournament. But there's a turning point, Yeah,
Speaker 1: once you get one or two games past that. I mean,
Speaker 1: we haven't played Settlers in like five years now, probably.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I literally can't remember the last time. It's
Speaker 1: it's been a while. Yeah, because like once you get it.
Speaker 1: But okay, so did you grow. It would be good
Speaker 1: to go back to it, though, because a lot of
Speaker 1: games don't have that. There's a there's a human element
Speaker 1: and settlers specifically, and we're referring to the trading aspect
Speaker 1: of it, that you can really antagonize each other and
Speaker 1: make enemies or you know, make people like you. But
Speaker 1: a lot of the other games don't have that aspect true,
Speaker 1: which is something I kind of miss, Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: like there's a there's a certain human human element that's
Speaker 1: kind of fun to kind of poke and product people
Speaker 1: with your ridiculous trades. Yeah, that one's got going on.
Speaker 1: So okay for you? Did you grow up playing playing
Speaker 1: board games? Yeah? Yeah, well, I mean you mentioned sorry
Speaker 1: that was one I want to say that was honestly
Speaker 1: one of the early because that's what is that like
Speaker 1: a counting game, right, like you religious and then that's
Speaker 1: essentially what it is. And there's something in middle school
Speaker 1: years and stuff middle school, high school? Did you did
Speaker 1: you play more of those kind of like getting into
Speaker 1: that more little more strategic. Not really, I mean that
Speaker 1: was like the air of middle school especially. That was
Speaker 1: that was I was just outside playing. I grew up
Speaker 1: in Augusta, so I was playing golf literally every day.
Speaker 1: I mean we come up from school play like five holes.
Speaker 1: I didn't play any games, I think in in middle
Speaker 1: school or high school, and not even college either, because
Speaker 1: college is all about hanging out and that's true college. Yeah,
Speaker 1: none for me. We'd played poker, that's about it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I never got into poker. I had some had friends
Speaker 1: that they would get together and do the Texas holding night.
Speaker 1: Always felt a little like, oh man, this kind of sucks.
Speaker 1: I'm not part of that. But I didn't want to play.
Speaker 1: I would just didn't have any interest in it. Just
Speaker 1: seems you didn't. Yeah, it seemed like a good time
Speaker 1: to get together, like the social aspect of it, but
Speaker 1: the actual game, it's just it's cards. There's some card
Speaker 1: games that are out there that people love, I know,
Speaker 1: But so I would play I would play Risk in
Speaker 1: high school with my buddies, and so I really liked
Speaker 1: games like that already. Um and like I said, Risk
Speaker 1: is probably the closest one that's just on the other side,
Speaker 1: and so I was kind of already into that stuff.
Speaker 1: And and then you know, finding these other board games
Speaker 1: was has just been such a fun outlet for me
Speaker 1: and a great sense of you know, you find people
Speaker 1: that love what you love and and they are into
Speaker 1: it like that, and you find this little community that
Speaker 1: you don't know existed, just like the craft beer community
Speaker 1: that we're into. So it's kind of it's super fun
Speaker 1: in that way. Yeah, you can go pretty hard into
Speaker 1: anything that you want. Yeah, but I would encourage you
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a hobby that's going to save
Speaker 1: you money, this is This is one of those things
Speaker 1: because really some of my friends have these like shelves
Speaker 1: with like forty board games on them. You know, I've
Speaker 1: got like eight or nine board games that I love
Speaker 1: that I absolutely love, and then I play with other
Speaker 1: people that have other board games too. But it's not
Speaker 1: a very expensive hobby, and the amount of replay ability
Speaker 1: that you can get from it is freaking fantastic. So
Speaker 1: I would say if you're looking for a cheap hobby,
Speaker 1: this is a great one to kind of waite into.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I love these board games is
Speaker 1: that they teach you so specifically. What I mean is
Speaker 1: that for me, they kind of trained my mind to
Speaker 1: think in ways that are strategic that can be applied
Speaker 1: to real life. And so if you're sitting there. Again,
Speaker 1: if you're sitting there playing a video game or watching TV,
Speaker 1: you don't really think. You don't use your brain in
Speaker 1: the in the same way that you do when you're
Speaker 1: When you're playing these games, you're really passive as opposed
Speaker 1: to active. I feel like that way with anytime there's
Speaker 1: a screen involved, it's passive. You're just looking at the
Speaker 1: pretty picture completely. It was like pretty colors and cool
Speaker 1: graphics and whatever, you know. I was just thinking that
Speaker 1: this morning as my eldest daughter, who's four and a half,
Speaker 1: was sitting on the couch and she had this piece,
Speaker 1: big piece of plastic that was about the size of
Speaker 1: an iPad, and she was pretending that it was an iPad,
Speaker 1: and I dud Evie does that too. We don't let
Speaker 1: them have screens, and so it was. I just thought
Speaker 1: it was amazing though, that her brain was active and
Speaker 1: when she is in front of a screen like a television,
Speaker 1: because that's what she like, talking and playing with it
Speaker 1: and doing different stuff like beat. It was so awesome
Speaker 1: to see her mind engaged like that, sitting there zombed
Speaker 1: out watching Moana, Because if it was actually an iPad,
Speaker 1: she would not be communicating or doing anything fun. And
Speaker 1: I love to see her brain work because and and
Speaker 1: that's why we avoid screens. We can talk about that
Speaker 1: another time, but it's so cool to see that, you know,
Speaker 1: you're right, you're actually completely passive in front of one
Speaker 1: of those. And the same thing applies with with with
Speaker 1: these games is that so not only your brain is
Speaker 1: working while you're doing that, but I think you literally
Speaker 1: learned strategies that can be applied to real life. Right,
Speaker 1: And so you've got typically you must always have a
Speaker 1: limited resources, and you're playing these games and you have
Speaker 1: to make decisions, right, there's trade offs. It's like I'm
Speaker 1: either going to go this route or I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: this route, you know, like this sort of the strategy
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to play to win the game, or
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with this other strategy. And that's life,
Speaker 1: you know. It's it's just whether it's like, am I
Speaker 1: gonna go You can apply it to anything. Am I
Speaker 1: gonna go for the job that's got the big paycheck?
Speaker 1: And that's that's gonna mean I'm gonna have to sacrifice
Speaker 1: some maybe some other things. It means I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to go into debt. Now we're talking about the game
Speaker 1: of life. Oh wait a minute, I remember playing that.
Speaker 1: That one didn't even come up. It's a strong one. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's so funny. That's totally true. Like do I go
Speaker 1: to college or do I go straight to the job.
Speaker 1: You're literally making those decisions in the game. But but
Speaker 1: I mean that's so that applies. I think so well though,
Speaker 1: from these games directly directly to life. Yeah, I completely agree.
Speaker 1: I think that these games are sharpening my brain as
Speaker 1: I am thinking through different strategies and I have to
Speaker 1: I have to keep a lot of things in my
Speaker 1: head at one time, especially with some of these more
Speaker 1: intricate games that I like to play, and so having
Speaker 1: to think about, Okay, what could possibly be coming up,
Speaker 1: and what do I have in my hand depending on
Speaker 1: what the game is, right, and what resources do I
Speaker 1: have at my disposal? And do I want to like
Speaker 1: use all of them now? Probably not, I need to
Speaker 1: have some for two rounds from now. And there's all
Speaker 1: those sorts of things that go into your head, and
Speaker 1: I just I think it's so yeah, a really fun
Speaker 1: way to exercise your brain that is super active and
Speaker 1: super interesting and really fun, and my brain gets that
Speaker 1: in some ways in other parts of life. But there's
Speaker 1: something specific about playing these nerdy board games that my
Speaker 1: brain doesn't work like that in any other time. I
Speaker 1: don't like. Yeah, it condenses an entire lifetime. And so
Speaker 1: say a one hour or two hour game, right, and
Speaker 1: so you're starting off and then kind of building this thing. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. Our entire life is, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to build up whatever it is that we're you know,
Speaker 1: our goals are. So it's gratifying in that way. Obviously
Speaker 1: if you win, it's more gratifying. But it's true. And
Speaker 1: and I want to say this too. It's hearing you
Speaker 1: describe it, it almost sounds a little bit stressful, but
Speaker 1: it's not because it's a game and when you're done,
Speaker 1: you're done with it. It's not like real life where
Speaker 1: something is just still hanging over you. If you if
Speaker 1: you know, if some if it's something that you haven't addressed,
Speaker 1: it's something that once you once you're done playing with it,
Speaker 1: all right, done, Yeah, box back up on the shelf
Speaker 1: or put in the cabinet in if it does come on.
Speaker 1: If it does sound a little stressful to you, I
Speaker 1: would encourage you to start off with some of the
Speaker 1: easier board games. Yeah, that's true. And so let's talk
Speaker 1: about some maybe the easy ones that we would recommend.
Speaker 1: The gateway drugs if you will into strategic board games,
Speaker 1: and we already mentioned Settlers of Catan. That's probably literally
Speaker 1: the number one that you should start off with. It
Speaker 1: you'll get years and years of gameplay out of if
Speaker 1: you've never played any of these games before, that's when
Speaker 1: you should really start off with. And it's just fun again,
Speaker 1: like I mentioned that human aspect of it, just trading
Speaker 1: from one person to another and people get mad at
Speaker 1: each other and it's just fun. It's just fun to
Speaker 1: be a part of. I think, start throwing beers at
Speaker 1: each other. Whatever. Yeah, I think another easy one then
Speaker 1: two is Carca San Yes, I was gonna say that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Carcasson might even be easier to learn than,
Speaker 1: uh than Settlers, because you don't have to memorize what
Speaker 1: your resources you're trying to get to build whatever thing
Speaker 1: you're trying to build. Carkson is a little more of
Speaker 1: a a tile laying game, yeah time, which is super fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: We've we've gotten a lot of plays out of that.
Speaker 1: Settlers is sort of a tile game, but really it's
Speaker 1: a board game. Like you use the tiles and you
Speaker 1: build the board, but then you're playing on that board
Speaker 1: the whole entire thing. Versus car Carcoson. It's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a tile laying game where you're building games. Of all
Speaker 1: the games that I own, I think Carcoson might be
Speaker 1: the one I've played the most things. Oh, because you
Speaker 1: can knock out I mean you and I can knock
Speaker 1: out a game of carcass I mean we do this
Speaker 1: on vacation minutes. Oh man, you remember, uh, I just
Speaker 1: thought of when we got yelled at for playing on
Speaker 1: vacation because we played like eight rounds and one night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like two or three in the morning. This
Speaker 1: was down in our wives, like when are you coming
Speaker 1: to bed? It's coming full circle. This is when we're
Speaker 1: down in Florida and when we get on vacation together,
Speaker 1: which isn't all the time, but we try to go
Speaker 1: on a trip with you guys once a year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: once a year or so, we try to bring a
Speaker 1: couple of games, right, or maybe focus on one that
Speaker 1: we just hit real hard the whole week, but that
Speaker 1: that year it was it was Carcassone and I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, we went hard. We just bat duking it out,
Speaker 1: man kept one back and forth. Uh. But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's one. That's a great sort of starter starter board
Speaker 1: game to pick up. I think Splendor is another good one.
Speaker 1: That's pretty quick. Is that that the jewels? Yeah, card
Speaker 1: flipping and you're coloring claring coins to buy more cards
Speaker 1: too to win the game. Uh, And that's a good
Speaker 1: that's a good easy one. And Ticket to Ride is another,
Speaker 1: I would say easy one. I would recommend that you
Speaker 1: can these. By easy, we mean shorter time frame, easier concepts,
Speaker 1: less to hold in your mind while you're going through it.
Speaker 1: So it's just the principles of it are more basic
Speaker 1: in elementry. Yeah, and for whatever reason, those are the
Speaker 1: ones I like. So yeah, so you can read into
Speaker 1: that whatever you'd like. So it's some of the some
Speaker 1: of the medium level board games. So I think that
Speaker 1: one that Emily and I've been playing a lot, and
Speaker 1: we introduced you guys too recently was viticulture. Yeah, where
Speaker 1: you are basically making your own winery and you've got
Speaker 1: you've got a vine, your and you're you're planting grapes
Speaker 1: and you're making lines and you're filling wine orders. It's
Speaker 1: really really fun game. And I will say one of
Speaker 1: the other elements of these games that I love is
Speaker 1: the artwork. They're beautiful games, So many of them are beautiful,
Speaker 1: and Viticulture in particular is probably the most beautiful game
Speaker 1: that I own, and I love to get out of
Speaker 1: the box and I love to play it because it's
Speaker 1: just so dang pretty. Every time I open it helps
Speaker 1: you relax, you feel like you're in Italy or yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit man, where is it supposed to be? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So a lot of these board games, I think we
Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier, but I think almost all, not all
Speaker 1: of them, but a lot a lot of them are German,
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, the Germans like making these kind
Speaker 1: of the supply chain sort of efficiency driven games where
Speaker 1: you have to figure out these, you know, the most
Speaker 1: efficient way to build whatever it is that you're trying
Speaker 1: to build. I guess it's not surprising now that, yeah,
Speaker 1: you start talking about you're like, oh, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: That sounds like the Germans. That sounds like them, But
Speaker 1: they always sound like the names of the guy that
Speaker 1: created it. On the box too, and it's always like
Speaker 1: Hans Jurgen and all these names that we laugh at,
Speaker 1: but now we now we kind of want to meet
Speaker 1: them now where they're kind of our idols in a way,
Speaker 1: we're getting to be ultra nerds. Another great medium level
Speaker 1: game that I love is a game called a Choir.
Speaker 1: I would say it's probably between easy and medium, uh,
Speaker 1: And that's really really fun, super easy one to learn,
Speaker 1: I feel like, but you have to keep a little
Speaker 1: more in your mind the whole game, so you have
Speaker 1: to kind of try to keep track if you can,
Speaker 1: what other people have in their hand card wise, which
Speaker 1: is kind of fun, but it's also a little more
Speaker 1: more intense, more intense to try to remember all those things.
Speaker 1: What about I was gonna say, what about Agricola? Where
Speaker 1: do you consider that to be the more more complicated one.
Speaker 1: I say that gets into that gets into hard pro
Speaker 1: level thing. I think it gets in a little bit harder,
Speaker 1: but you can it's got like two thousand pieces. There's
Speaker 1: there's a lot of pieces, a lot of little chips
Speaker 1: and cards. So as you can imagine by the name
Speaker 1: of Gricola, like literally you have like an ancient farm
Speaker 1: and you're got animals and vegetables, and you're basically building
Speaker 1: a family and a farm, probably set in I don't know,
Speaker 1: like the fourteen hundreds. Yeah, I don't know, something like that,
Speaker 1: so in like Surfdom Days or something. But it's really
Speaker 1: really fun and Emily and I've gotten a lot of
Speaker 1: play out of that game too, because some of these
Speaker 1: games you can play two players. Some of them require more, yeah,
Speaker 1: three or four players each, but a greatly you can
Speaker 1: play with two players, right, yeah, and that's great, and
Speaker 1: that's that's one of the reasons we love Carcassone as well.
Speaker 1: You can play that obviously you were talking about you
Speaker 1: and me playing that, but take it to Ride to
Speaker 1: you can play two players. Yeah, I haven't played it
Speaker 1: with two players. I think that's what's great about some
Speaker 1: of these games is that the rules just change a
Speaker 1: little bit with two players. They some of the options
Speaker 1: aren't available right like they would be if if you
Speaker 1: have three, three or four players exactly exactly. And so
Speaker 1: I would say one of my like probably my favorite
Speaker 1: game right now, and it's one of those that we
Speaker 1: joked about, but literally it takes like four hours to
Speaker 1: play with and I don't think you can't play with
Speaker 1: two two people, So I play usually with a group
Speaker 1: of guys. Uh. It's a game called Nations. It's amazing,
Speaker 1: like Risk on Crack. It's kind of like you're literally
Speaker 1: running through all of history and you're building a civilization.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. That sounds like Pandemic. Uh did you play Pandemic? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like Pandemic. Pandemic is one of the rare ones where
Speaker 1: you work together, which is kind of fun. So you're
Speaker 1: not competing against each other, you're actually work man together.
Speaker 1: That's true. That that's why. That's why I don't like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it doesn't feel like you win because it's like
Speaker 1: there's no enemy. Oh we all want well and then
Speaker 1: none of us. Yeah, exactly. You want to You want
Speaker 1: to be able to beat somebody that you're looking at.
Speaker 1: It's true. Yeah, that's all I am. I'm I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm more competitive now I am too. I like to win, man.
Speaker 1: So yeah, working together it's like, okay, we beat It's
Speaker 1: like beating the computer. It's like beating the game or
Speaker 1: something that's like, well, that's to me, that's not as
Speaker 1: fun as Mario Kart, where you're facing off and you know,
Speaker 1: attacking each other. True. Yeah, So we'll list some of
Speaker 1: our favorite games are top five up on the web
Speaker 1: post the show notes, and we'll also linked to I
Speaker 1: would say one of the best websites for you to
Speaker 1: learn more about these games to get more interested is
Speaker 1: a website called board game geek dot com, and they
Speaker 1: kind of rank these games, and those rankings are constantly changing.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like untapped, but for board games, right
Speaker 1: exactly exactly, it's if you want to go way down
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole. Uh. And one of the things I
Speaker 1: would recommend to you if you're interested in these games
Speaker 1: is looking at YouTube tutorials. Sometimes the rule books can
Speaker 1: be really lengthy, and so watching a YouTube video where
Speaker 1: someone watchs you through the steps of how to play
Speaker 1: the game can be super helpful. Can take you ten
Speaker 1: or twelve minutes as opposed to thirty minutes to an
Speaker 1: hour trying to read through the books. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: remember at all. So if you actually get to watch
Speaker 1: someone play through it a little bit or explain it
Speaker 1: to you and show you the basics of gameplay, it
Speaker 1: can kind of really help speed up things as you're
Speaker 1: as you're getting into the games, or obviously I mean
Speaker 1: if you've got a friend that knows how to play, man,
Speaker 1: that's just that's always the best way to learn. Just
Speaker 1: have them over or next time they invite you over,
Speaker 1: take them up on it and sit down and play,
Speaker 1: and it will be a much better experience than for
Speaker 1: for people that sit down to play and they've never
Speaker 1: played before. I can take a long time and maybe
Speaker 1: not be the most fun. So we mentioned YouTube two
Speaker 1: podcasts in a row. So if you need to fix
Speaker 1: a water heater YouTube, and if you need to learn
Speaker 1: how to play a dorkeyboard game YouTube. It's kind of
Speaker 1: the best. It's pretty great. And they've got the YouTube
Speaker 1: TV now they're like trying to take over. It's true.
Speaker 1: She's actually, yeah, trying to knock out the cable companies
Speaker 1: and some of the other other content providers. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: all for it, man. And if you need like puppy
Speaker 1: videos YouTube just to make you feel better, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't watch many many puppy videos. I mean either, no,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean neither. Man. What you're talking
Speaker 1: about puppy videos? Yeah? Those are lame? Uh Yeah, So
Speaker 1: let's let's get back to the beer man. What do
Speaker 1: you think about this Golden Angel. It's pretty freaking awesome.
Speaker 1: It's super heavy on the apricot. It's really it's got
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, it's got a little bit of
Speaker 1: that like kind of champagne vibe to it, like a
Speaker 1: white wine champagne apricot sour. I think maybe it might
Speaker 1: be one of the reasons I that I like it
Speaker 1: is that it does kind of taste like all these things,
Speaker 1: and the apricots to me, isn't crazy noticeable. Maybe to
Speaker 1: me that I just don't notice apricots that much as well.
Speaker 1: But to me, it's like a blonde sour ale or
Speaker 1: something like, you know, completely yeah, some of these other
Speaker 1: beers that are heavy on the fruit, it's just a
Speaker 1: very distinct flavor and that's kind of all you taste,
Speaker 1: whereas the apricot it kind of blends into this sort
Speaker 1: of golden blonde flavor profile that I mean, I would
Speaker 1: like to think that I would be able to be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's an apricot beer. But see, but I think when
Speaker 1: you bite into an apricot, it's got kind of in
Speaker 1: a cidic quality to it, and I think that's what
Speaker 1: I love about it. I think that's yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think that's exactly why they're perfect for something like this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in these kind of beers. So I yeah, I'm a
Speaker 1: huge fan of this beer. It tastes phenomenal. Um mad
Speaker 1: props to Wicked Weed. This is one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: So nice sour, good amount of funk and there's Well
Speaker 1: we'll have to get more in the Angel series as
Speaker 1: we progress, as Matt makes more money so we can
Speaker 1: buy fancy beers. Well, yeah, yeah, you're the one with
Speaker 1: the nine to five with the man. You've got a pension, right,
Speaker 1: don't you have a pension. It's true, Yeah, I do,
Speaker 1: one of the old school. I do almost nobody to
Speaker 1: your job. Who yeah, who has a pension? I don't
Speaker 1: almost No. Yeah, it's a good job man, It's true.
Speaker 1: So Golden Angel highly recommend it if you have twenty
Speaker 1: bucks you want to spend on a fantastic beer and
Speaker 1: can actually slash Yeah, or if you're even lucky enough
Speaker 1: to come across this because it's it's really good, get it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Joel, thanks for getting this beer. Thanks for
Speaker 1: drinking it with me, buddy, Thanks so much for listening. Everyone.
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