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Speaker 1: Welcome to How to Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt,

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Speaker 1: and today we're talking about nerdy board games. That's right.

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Speaker 1: Today we're talking about nerdy board games. Matt and I

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Speaker 1: like to play board games that take a long time,

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Speaker 1: a lot of rules. I feel like for most folks

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Speaker 1: that's the definition of a nerdy board game. They're like,

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Speaker 1: how long is this gonna take? And ours can be

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Speaker 1: up to four hours, oh my gosh, usually in the

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Speaker 1: two hour range. I would say an hour to two

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Speaker 1: is like forty five minutes to an hour and a half, yes,

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Speaker 1: with you know, with the kids or just other things

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Speaker 1: that I've got I've got going on. I can't it's

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Speaker 1: hard to spend four hours playing a game. No, it's true.

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Speaker 1: So I've got another set of friends that I play with. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you don't usually play with those dudes. You're taking

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Speaker 1: it to a whole another level. And we we game

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Speaker 1: really hard. Um, but sometimes we'll get together and and

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Speaker 1: play and play with our wives and stuff like that too.

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Speaker 1: And I like to play with my wife. We play

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Speaker 1: board games, and so we want to talk all about

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Speaker 1: why we think they're important, Why we think why they're fun,

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Speaker 1: what they teach us, and how they actually end up

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Speaker 1: saving us money. So nerdy board games are actually kind

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Speaker 1: of one of those. It's kind of got a lot

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Speaker 1: of that yeah built in and it's one of those

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Speaker 1: small spokes in the wheel that we love. I like it. Yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so the last episode we we dove into investment

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Speaker 1: properties and said this one we decided to kind of

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Speaker 1: steer more towards something a little lighter. So if you're

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Speaker 1: not like ready to drop thirty grand on a down

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Speaker 1: payment on a rental property, that's cool. You can drop

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Speaker 1: thirty bucks on a nerdy board game and have hours

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Speaker 1: and hours and hours of fun gameplay. Yeah. Every week though,

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Speaker 1: we we crack open a beer up or as and

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Speaker 1: we pour a beer so poor not poor, and Joel

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Speaker 1: has a fantastic beer for us tonight. So Matt, we

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Speaker 1: got lucky to find this one. I've only had I've

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Speaker 1: had this beer one time in my life. You've never had,

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Speaker 1: ever had it. I'm super stoked. I'm really excited to

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Speaker 1: share it with you. I legitimately would consider this beer

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Speaker 1: top five beers I've ever had in my life. And

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Speaker 1: and I've definitely had upboards of beers in my life.

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Speaker 1: So this one, this one is one of those crown jewels.

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Speaker 1: Have you really had that? Man? Oh yeah, easy, dude,

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Speaker 1: look at my untapped different beers. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: if you want to follow us on tapped, go to

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Speaker 1: poor not Poor dot com and you can you can

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Speaker 1: follow that because and I haven't logged all of them,

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Speaker 1: but I know from basically what I've logged, and then

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Speaker 1: what other beers I've had that I don't log and

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Speaker 1: I don't know honestly what my count is, but I

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Speaker 1: think I don't have that. Man, Actually, I know I

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Speaker 1: don't have that many. That's that seems like a huge number.

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Speaker 1: But like, so think about it. I went to the

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Speaker 1: Shelton Brothers Beer Festival and I probably tasted oh that's true,

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Speaker 1: forty beers in one day, right, And there's like beer

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and I get around you drink a beer

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Speaker 1: said the name yet. Okay, So the name of the

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Speaker 1: beer we're drinking today is Wicked Weed Golden Angel. It's

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Speaker 1: a barrel aged American sour ale with Apricots. It's got

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Speaker 1: that fruited sour again. Man, that's that's a good it's

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Speaker 1: a good style. And so this beer is super hard

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Speaker 1: to come by. Although now that Budweiser acquired Wicked Weed,

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Speaker 1: And I was lucky enough to get my hands on

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Speaker 1: So I got the same shot with my my peeps

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Speaker 1: of peach Tree package. They they're they're super kind and

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Speaker 1: save me good beers from time to time. Treat you right,

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Speaker 1: and they do. And this one, I'm so glad they

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Speaker 1: saved it for me. I'm super pumped. So let me

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Speaker 1: know I've had the Red Angel and I've had Black Angel.

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Speaker 1: apricots per gallon. That's a lot of fruit. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: you can go online. The episode post will have the

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Speaker 1: you can take a look and Golden Angel is. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's let's take a take a taste and then we'll

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Speaker 1: get into the major tasting notes after after we finished

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Speaker 1: talking about nerdy board games. Oh man, that is like

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Speaker 1: into the specifics at the very end of tasting notes

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Speaker 1: for Golden Angel from Wicked Weed. Man, thanks for going

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Speaker 1: on and Graham, now that's great. I'm glad we get

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Speaker 1: what we do, man, poor, not poor. We're all about

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Speaker 1: down and just talking about stuff, it's you can be

424
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Speaker 1: kind of intense. So having you know, if you're working

425
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 1: on a plane playing the game you like the pro

426
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 1: Trump and the anti Trump and you're like, oh, let's

427
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Speaker 1: just move on from It's kind of ease the tension here.

428
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Speaker 1: You play Take It to Ride, uh since specifically, Yeah,

429
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,640
Speaker 1: that's one that we introduced to my dad. He never

430
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 1: played before before this uh this past Christmas, and you

431
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 1: know he's just like one about carcass Ow and like

432
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 1: Larder that one last year, and I think he was

433
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 1: ready to play that, but we taught him how to

434
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 1: play Ticket to Ride and he he he loved it.

435
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 1: He won one. Uh second night we were playing. Yeah, Bryan,

436
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,400
Speaker 1: way to go, Tim. It took me out. But yeah,

437
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 1: that's one of the things Kate loves is just being

438
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 1: able to kind of hang out in person, face to

439
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 1: face catch up some but it's not such like an

440
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 1: intense time, you know, you've got that gang going on,

441
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 1: you've got the third like a third party sort of

442
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 1: distraction in a way. But at the same time, it's

443
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: not like a football game where if that's on, that's

444
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 1: all it's gonna do is just steal all of your

445
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: attention and stuck your energy. If it's on, you can't

446
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 1: pay attention to them talking, You're not You're not hanging

447
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: out and talking. You're just kind of all doing that instead.

448
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 1: I completely agree. So board games, nerdy board games are

449
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: super fun. That we've defined them now, you know, kind

450
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: of some of the ones that are popular. At the

451
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 1: end of the episode will kind of tell you some

452
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 1: of our favorites, and on the website will list out

453
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 1: five or ten of our top favorites too. Another reason

454
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: I think board games are so awesome is that they

455
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 1: save you money. Some of these board games, I will

456
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 1: not lie, are really expensive. You might even drop sixty

457
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 1: dollars for one of these board games if you get

458
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: super hardcore into it and want one of the expensive ones.

459
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 1: Some of the more basic ones we're talking about probably

460
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: start in the high teams. Probably twenty bucks, there's like

461
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: thirty bucks or something like that. Yeah, probably twenty to

462
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: forty for most of them. But the great thing is

463
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: they save you so much money because there's so much

464
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: replayability to some of these good games. An infinity amount

465
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,719
Speaker 1: of games can be played after once you actually get

466
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: the game and learn how to learn how to play it,

467
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: well man, instead of renting a movie or no one

468
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: rents a movie anymore, I guess, but instead of like

469
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: red Box, red box R I guess, like, yeah, you

470
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: run one off of Amazon, or even if you're considering

471
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 1: going out and just like wow, maybe we can just

472
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: stay in Boom. You've got the game already, You've got it,

473
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 1: got tons of choices. It's always a different Yeah, totally,

474
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Speaker 1: And I love the idea. I don't know about if

475
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: your your mind thinks about it like this, But like

476
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: when I bought my bike, I've been kind of keeping

477
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Speaker 1: track of the miles. I've got a little o dominter

478
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Speaker 1: on my bike, and so I'm kind of waiting to

479
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 1: hit that point where I've hit the amount of miles

480
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: where we're basically I passed the It's cheaper, it's like

481
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: a dollar a mile, right, So I'm thinking, Okay, I

482
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 1: spent thirte dollars on this bike. Once I hit that

483
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: mile marker, I've hit the dollar a mile and then

484
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm like going down, down down from there, it's even

485
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,199
Speaker 1: cheaper and cheaps. That's the kind of way I think

486
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: about board games. So basically, the more you play it,

487
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: the cheaper it is. Exactly per play, you're like, man,

488
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: this is getting cheaper every day to play, Like, I've

489
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: only played that one six times. I need that You'll

490
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: play that one a few more times to start to

491
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: get my get my value, get my money's worth out

492
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: of it. So that's the great thing about these board

493
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: games is you know, some of these games. We've played

494
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: some of these games, Emily and I probably played fifty

495
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: or sixty times, and the replayability is still great. And

496
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you know what, we haven't played it

497
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: for six months, but we'll come back to it because

498
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: it's such a good game, and we'll play three times

499
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: in a week. Um. So yeah, that kind of that

500
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: facet to the game is you buy something one time.

501
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you can get it used whatever, that's cool,

502
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: that's even cheaper. But you buy it one time and

503
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: then you've got all this replayability and you can trade

504
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: it with friends, you know, we've tried. I've got one

505
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 1: version of Ticket to Ride and you've got another, Matt,

506
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 1: and we can you know, I got the European version

507
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: we can swap, which is great. How did you get

508
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: started playing some of these these nerdy board games? So

509
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: was it? Was it actually settlers for you? Yeah? The

510
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: first one was because it was and it was with

511
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: a friend and they were just like, hey, you want

512
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: to get into this? And I was like, this is

513
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: this like Dungeons and Dragons? Man, I don't question is that.

514
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: It's it's like their propositioning you tobe, like like they

515
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: knew that you were going to get addicted. Its like, hey,

516
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: are you sure you want to get this? He said

517
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: it in that underhanded voice, you know, he you want

518
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: to do this? Like I don't know, I'm young and impressurable. Yeah,

519
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: that was definitely so for for me it was post

520
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: college and is when I was broke living up in

521
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: North Carolina. That was the first time I remember first

522
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: the first time playing it and and for that reason

523
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: it was awesome because we didn't have any money to

524
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: go out. Literally, we would just like chop wood for fun.

525
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: I probably because we did it for for the in

526
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Speaker 1: your George, not my joy. I was actually probably wearing

527
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: the jeans then that are now all right. I hang

528
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: on the stuff a long time, a long life cycle

529
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: for those. But yeah, I didn't have any money to

530
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: go out to a movie or whatever it was folks

531
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: were doing, and so we would, I mean we'd hang out,

532
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: hang out at at the Red House, that's what we

533
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: called it. And because it was purple, right, you know it?

534
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: And we mean when we played a ton of specifically Settlers,

535
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even think we got into anything

536
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: else because we had just learned it and loved it,

537
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: loved it so much. Yeah, well until I think, you know,

538
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: Settlers like went so far when you first learned it

539
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: and went so far. I remember for a couple of

540
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: years I had like birthday parties where we like play Settlers.

541
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: Yeah I remember remember that. Yeah, and it just had

542
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: so much replayability to tournament. But there's a turning point, Yeah,

543
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: once you get one or two games past that. I mean,

544
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: we haven't played Settlers in like five years now, probably.

545
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: I yeah, I literally can't remember the last time. It's

546
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: it's been a while. Yeah, because like once you get it.

547
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: But okay, so did you grow. It would be good

548
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: to go back to it, though, because a lot of

549
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: games don't have that. There's a there's a human element

550
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: and settlers specifically, and we're referring to the trading aspect

551
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: of it, that you can really antagonize each other and

552
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: make enemies or you know, make people like you. But

553
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: a lot of the other games don't have that aspect true,

554
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: which is something I kind of miss, Yeah, because I

555
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: like there's a there's a certain human human element that's

556
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: kind of fun to kind of poke and product people

557
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: with your ridiculous trades. Yeah, that one's got going on.

558
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: So okay for you? Did you grow up playing playing

559
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: board games? Yeah? Yeah, well, I mean you mentioned sorry

560
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: that was one I want to say that was honestly

561
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: one of the early because that's what is that like

562
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: a counting game, right, like you religious and then that's

563
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: essentially what it is. And there's something in middle school

564
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: years and stuff middle school, high school? Did you did

565
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: you play more of those kind of like getting into

566
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: that more little more strategic. Not really, I mean that

567
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: was like the air of middle school especially. That was

568
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: that was I was just outside playing. I grew up

569
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: in Augusta, so I was playing golf literally every day.

570
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: I mean we come up from school play like five holes.

571
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: I didn't play any games, I think in in middle

572
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: school or high school, and not even college either, because

573
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: college is all about hanging out and that's true college. Yeah,

574
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: none for me. We'd played poker, that's about it. Yeah. Yeah,

575
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: I never got into poker. I had some had friends

576
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: that they would get together and do the Texas holding night.

577
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: Always felt a little like, oh man, this kind of sucks.

578
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm not part of that. But I didn't want to play.

579
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: I would just didn't have any interest in it. Just

580
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: seems you didn't. Yeah, it seemed like a good time

581
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: to get together, like the social aspect of it, but

582
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: the actual game, it's just it's cards. There's some card

583
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: games that are out there that people love, I know,

584
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: But so I would play I would play Risk in

585
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: high school with my buddies, and so I really liked

586
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: games like that already. Um and like I said, Risk

587
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: is probably the closest one that's just on the other side,

588
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: and so I was kind of already into that stuff.

589
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: And and then you know, finding these other board games

590
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: was has just been such a fun outlet for me

591
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: and a great sense of you know, you find people

592
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: that love what you love and and they are into

593
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: it like that, and you find this little community that

594
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: you don't know existed, just like the craft beer community

595
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: that we're into. So it's kind of it's super fun

596
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: in that way. Yeah, you can go pretty hard into

597
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: anything that you want. Yeah, but I would encourage you

598
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a hobby that's going to save

599
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: you money, this is This is one of those things

600
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: because really some of my friends have these like shelves

601
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: with like forty board games on them. You know, I've

602
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: got like eight or nine board games that I love

603
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: that I absolutely love, and then I play with other

604
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: people that have other board games too. But it's not

605
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: a very expensive hobby, and the amount of replay ability

606
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: that you can get from it is freaking fantastic. So

607
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: I would say if you're looking for a cheap hobby,

608
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: this is a great one to kind of waite into.

609
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I love these board games is

610
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: that they teach you so specifically. What I mean is

611
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: that for me, they kind of trained my mind to

612
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: think in ways that are strategic that can be applied

613
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: to real life. And so if you're sitting there. Again,

614
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: if you're sitting there playing a video game or watching TV,

615
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: you don't really think. You don't use your brain in

616
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: the in the same way that you do when you're

617
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: When you're playing these games, you're really passive as opposed

618
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: to active. I feel like that way with anytime there's

619
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: a screen involved, it's passive. You're just looking at the

620
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: pretty picture completely. It was like pretty colors and cool

621
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: graphics and whatever, you know. I was just thinking that

622
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: this morning as my eldest daughter, who's four and a half,

623
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: was sitting on the couch and she had this piece,

624
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: big piece of plastic that was about the size of

625
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 1: an iPad, and she was pretending that it was an iPad,

626
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: and I dud Evie does that too. We don't let

627
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: them have screens, and so it was. I just thought

628
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: it was amazing though, that her brain was active and

629
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: when she is in front of a screen like a television,

630
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: because that's what she like, talking and playing with it

631
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: and doing different stuff like beat. It was so awesome

632
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: to see her mind engaged like that, sitting there zombed

633
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: out watching Moana, Because if it was actually an iPad,

634
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: she would not be communicating or doing anything fun. And

635
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: I love to see her brain work because and and

636
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: that's why we avoid screens. We can talk about that

637
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: another time, but it's so cool to see that, you know,

638
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: you're right, you're actually completely passive in front of one

639
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: of those. And the same thing applies with with with

640
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: these games is that so not only your brain is

641
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: working while you're doing that, but I think you literally

642
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: learned strategies that can be applied to real life. Right,

643
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: And so you've got typically you must always have a

644
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: limited resources, and you're playing these games and you have

645
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: to make decisions, right, there's trade offs. It's like I'm

646
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: either going to go this route or I'm gonna go

647
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 1: this route, you know, like this sort of the strategy

648
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to play to win the game, or

649
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with this other strategy. And that's life,

650
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: you know. It's it's just whether it's like, am I

651
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: gonna go You can apply it to anything. Am I

652
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: gonna go for the job that's got the big paycheck?

653
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: And that's that's gonna mean I'm gonna have to sacrifice

654
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: some maybe some other things. It means I'm gonna have

655
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: to go into debt. Now we're talking about the game

656
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: of life. Oh wait a minute, I remember playing that.

657
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: That one didn't even come up. It's a strong one. Oh,

658
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: that's so funny. That's totally true. Like do I go

659
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: to college or do I go straight to the job.

660
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: You're literally making those decisions in the game. But but

661
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's so that applies. I think so well though,

662
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: from these games directly directly to life. Yeah, I completely agree.

663
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: I think that these games are sharpening my brain as

664
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: I am thinking through different strategies and I have to

665
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: I have to keep a lot of things in my

666
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: head at one time, especially with some of these more

667
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: intricate games that I like to play, and so having

668
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: to think about, Okay, what could possibly be coming up,

669
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: and what do I have in my hand depending on

670
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: what the game is, right, and what resources do I

671
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 1: have at my disposal? And do I want to like

672
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: use all of them now? Probably not, I need to

673
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: have some for two rounds from now. And there's all

674
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: those sorts of things that go into your head, and

675
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: I just I think it's so yeah, a really fun

676
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: way to exercise your brain that is super active and

677
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: super interesting and really fun, and my brain gets that

678
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: in some ways in other parts of life. But there's

679
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: something specific about playing these nerdy board games that my

680
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: brain doesn't work like that in any other time. I

681
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: don't like. Yeah, it condenses an entire lifetime. And so

682
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: say a one hour or two hour game, right, and

683
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: so you're starting off and then kind of building this thing. Well,

684
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. Our entire life is, you know,

685
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: trying to build up whatever it is that we're you know,

686
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: our goals are. So it's gratifying in that way. Obviously

687
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: if you win, it's more gratifying. But it's true. And

688
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: and I want to say this too. It's hearing you

689
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: describe it, it almost sounds a little bit stressful, but

690
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: it's not because it's a game and when you're done,

691
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: you're done with it. It's not like real life where

692
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: something is just still hanging over you. If you if

693
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: you know, if some if it's something that you haven't addressed,

694
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: it's something that once you once you're done playing with it,

695
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: all right, done, Yeah, box back up on the shelf

696
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: or put in the cabinet in if it does come on.

697
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: If it does sound a little stressful to you, I

698
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: would encourage you to start off with some of the

699
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: easier board games. Yeah, that's true. And so let's talk

700
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: about some maybe the easy ones that we would recommend.

701
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: The gateway drugs if you will into strategic board games,

702
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: and we already mentioned Settlers of Catan. That's probably literally

703
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: the number one that you should start off with. It

704
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: you'll get years and years of gameplay out of if

705
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: you've never played any of these games before, that's when

706
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: you should really start off with. And it's just fun again,

707
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: like I mentioned that human aspect of it, just trading

708
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: from one person to another and people get mad at

709
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: each other and it's just fun. It's just fun to

710
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: be a part of. I think, start throwing beers at

711
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: each other. Whatever. Yeah, I think another easy one then

712
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: two is Carca San Yes, I was gonna say that. Yeah,

713
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: I think Carcasson might even be easier to learn than,

714
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: uh than Settlers, because you don't have to memorize what

715
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: your resources you're trying to get to build whatever thing

716
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: you're trying to build. Carkson is a little more of

717
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: a a tile laying game, yeah time, which is super fun. Yeah,

718
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: We've we've gotten a lot of plays out of that.

719
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: Settlers is sort of a tile game, but really it's

720
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: a board game. Like you use the tiles and you

721
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: build the board, but then you're playing on that board

722
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: the whole entire thing. Versus car Carcoson. It's yeah, it's

723
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: a tile laying game where you're building games. Of all

724
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: the games that I own, I think Carcoson might be

725
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: the one I've played the most things. Oh, because you

726
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: can knock out I mean you and I can knock

727
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: out a game of carcass I mean we do this

728
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: on vacation minutes. Oh man, you remember, uh, I just

729
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: thought of when we got yelled at for playing on

730
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: vacation because we played like eight rounds and one night. Yeah,

731
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: it was like two or three in the morning. This

732
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: was down in our wives, like when are you coming

733
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: to bed? It's coming full circle. This is when we're

734
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: down in Florida and when we get on vacation together,

735
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: which isn't all the time, but we try to go

736
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: on a trip with you guys once a year. Yeah,

737
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: once a year or so, we try to bring a

738
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: couple of games, right, or maybe focus on one that

739
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: we just hit real hard the whole week, but that

740
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: that year it was it was Carcassone and I remember,

741
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, we went hard. We just bat duking it out,

742
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: man kept one back and forth. Uh. But yeah, that's

743
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: that's one. That's a great sort of starter starter board

744
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: game to pick up. I think Splendor is another good one.

745
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: That's pretty quick. Is that that the jewels? Yeah, card

746
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: flipping and you're coloring claring coins to buy more cards

747
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: too to win the game. Uh, And that's a good

748
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: that's a good easy one. And Ticket to Ride is another,

749
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: I would say easy one. I would recommend that you

750
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: can these. By easy, we mean shorter time frame, easier concepts,

751
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: less to hold in your mind while you're going through it.

752
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: So it's just the principles of it are more basic

753
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: in elementry. Yeah, and for whatever reason, those are the

754
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: ones I like. So yeah, so you can read into

755
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: that whatever you'd like. So it's some of the some

756
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: of the medium level board games. So I think that

757
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: one that Emily and I've been playing a lot, and

758
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: we introduced you guys too recently was viticulture. Yeah, where

759
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: you are basically making your own winery and you've got

760
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: you've got a vine, your and you're you're planting grapes

761
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: and you're making lines and you're filling wine orders. It's

762
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: really really fun game. And I will say one of

763
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: the other elements of these games that I love is

764
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: the artwork. They're beautiful games, So many of them are beautiful,

765
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: and Viticulture in particular is probably the most beautiful game

766
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: that I own, and I love to get out of

767
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: the box and I love to play it because it's

768
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: just so dang pretty. Every time I open it helps

769
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: you relax, you feel like you're in Italy or yeah,

770
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: a little bit man, where is it supposed to be? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

771
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: So a lot of these board games, I think we

772
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier, but I think almost all, not all

773
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: of them, but a lot a lot of them are German,

774
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, the Germans like making these kind

775
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: of the supply chain sort of efficiency driven games where

776
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: you have to figure out these, you know, the most

777
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: efficient way to build whatever it is that you're trying

778
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: to build. I guess it's not surprising now that, yeah,

779
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: you start talking about you're like, oh, that makes sense.

780
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: That sounds like the Germans. That sounds like them, But

781
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: they always sound like the names of the guy that

782
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: created it. On the box too, and it's always like

783
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: Hans Jurgen and all these names that we laugh at,

784
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: but now we now we kind of want to meet

785
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: them now where they're kind of our idols in a way,

786
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: we're getting to be ultra nerds. Another great medium level

787
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 1: game that I love is a game called a Choir.

788
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: I would say it's probably between easy and medium, uh,

789
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: And that's really really fun, super easy one to learn,

790
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: I feel like, but you have to keep a little

791
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: more in your mind the whole game, so you have

792
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: to kind of try to keep track if you can,

793
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: what other people have in their hand card wise, which

794
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: is kind of fun, but it's also a little more

795
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: more intense, more intense to try to remember all those things.

796
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: What about I was gonna say, what about Agricola? Where

797
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: do you consider that to be the more more complicated one.

798
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: I say that gets into that gets into hard pro

799
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: level thing. I think it gets in a little bit harder,

800
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: but you can it's got like two thousand pieces. There's

801
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 1: there's a lot of pieces, a lot of little chips

802
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: and cards. So as you can imagine by the name

803
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: of Gricola, like literally you have like an ancient farm

804
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: and you're got animals and vegetables, and you're basically building

805
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: a family and a farm, probably set in I don't know,

806
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: like the fourteen hundreds. Yeah, I don't know, something like that,

807
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: so in like Surfdom Days or something. But it's really

808
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: really fun and Emily and I've gotten a lot of

809
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: play out of that game too, because some of these

810
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 1: games you can play two players. Some of them require more, yeah,

811
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: three or four players each, but a greatly you can

812
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: play with two players, right, yeah, and that's great, and

813
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: that's that's one of the reasons we love Carcassone as well.

814
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: You can play that obviously you were talking about you

815
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: and me playing that, but take it to Ride to

816
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: you can play two players. Yeah, I haven't played it

817
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: with two players. I think that's what's great about some

818
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: of these games is that the rules just change a

819
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: little bit with two players. They some of the options

820
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: aren't available right like they would be if if you

821
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: have three, three or four players exactly exactly. And so

822
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: I would say one of my like probably my favorite

823
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: game right now, and it's one of those that we

824
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: joked about, but literally it takes like four hours to

825
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: play with and I don't think you can't play with

826
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: two two people, So I play usually with a group

827
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: of guys. Uh. It's a game called Nations. It's amazing,

828
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: like Risk on Crack. It's kind of like you're literally

829
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: running through all of history and you're building a civilization.

830
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: It's incredible. That sounds like Pandemic. Uh did you play Pandemic? Yeah,

831
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: like Pandemic. Pandemic is one of the rare ones where

832
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: you work together, which is kind of fun. So you're

833
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: not competing against each other, you're actually work man together.

834
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: That's true. That that's why. That's why I don't like that. Yeah,

835
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: because it doesn't feel like you win because it's like

836
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: there's no enemy. Oh we all want well and then

837
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: none of us. Yeah, exactly. You want to You want

838
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: to be able to beat somebody that you're looking at.

839
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: It's true. Yeah, that's all I am. I'm I don't know,

840
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: I'm more competitive now I am too. I like to win, man.

841
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, working together it's like, okay, we beat It's

842
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: like beating the computer. It's like beating the game or

843
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: something that's like, well, that's to me, that's not as

844
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: fun as Mario Kart, where you're facing off and you know,

845
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: attacking each other. True. Yeah, So we'll list some of

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Speaker 1: our favorite games are top five up on the web

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00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: post the show notes, and we'll also linked to I

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Speaker 1: would say one of the best websites for you to

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Speaker 1: learn more about these games to get more interested is

850
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: a website called board game geek dot com, and they

851
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: kind of rank these games, and those rankings are constantly changing.

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00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: It's like it's like untapped, but for board games, right

853
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: exactly exactly, it's if you want to go way down

854
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole. Uh. And one of the things I

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00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: would recommend to you if you're interested in these games

856
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: is looking at YouTube tutorials. Sometimes the rule books can

857
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: be really lengthy, and so watching a YouTube video where

858
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Speaker 1: someone watchs you through the steps of how to play

859
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: the game can be super helpful. Can take you ten

860
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: or twelve minutes as opposed to thirty minutes to an

861
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: hour trying to read through the books. Yeah, and then

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00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: remember at all. So if you actually get to watch

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Speaker 1: someone play through it a little bit or explain it

864
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: to you and show you the basics of gameplay, it

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00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: can kind of really help speed up things as you're

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Speaker 1: as you're getting into the games, or obviously I mean

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Speaker 1: if you've got a friend that knows how to play, man,

868
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: that's just that's always the best way to learn. Just

869
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: have them over or next time they invite you over,

870
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: take them up on it and sit down and play,

871
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: and it will be a much better experience than for

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Speaker 1: for people that sit down to play and they've never

873
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: played before. I can take a long time and maybe

874
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: not be the most fun. So we mentioned YouTube two

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00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: podcasts in a row. So if you need to fix

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00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: a water heater YouTube, and if you need to learn

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00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: how to play a dorkeyboard game YouTube. It's kind of

878
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: the best. It's pretty great. And they've got the YouTube

879
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: TV now they're like trying to take over. It's true.

880
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: She's actually, yeah, trying to knock out the cable companies

881
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: and some of the other other content providers. Yeah, I'm

882
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: all for it, man. And if you need like puppy

883
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: videos YouTube just to make you feel better, I don't.

884
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Speaker 1: I don't watch many many puppy videos. I mean either, no,

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00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean neither. Man. What you're talking

886
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: about puppy videos? Yeah? Those are lame? Uh Yeah, So

887
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: let's let's get back to the beer man. What do

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00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: you think about this Golden Angel. It's pretty freaking awesome.

889
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: It's super heavy on the apricot. It's really it's got

890
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Speaker 1: like I said earlier, it's got a little bit of

891
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: that like kind of champagne vibe to it, like a

892
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: white wine champagne apricot sour. I think maybe it might

893
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: be one of the reasons I that I like it

894
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: is that it does kind of taste like all these things,

895
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Speaker 1: and the apricots to me, isn't crazy noticeable. Maybe to

896
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: me that I just don't notice apricots that much as well.

897
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: But to me, it's like a blonde sour ale or

898
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: something like, you know, completely yeah, some of these other

899
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: beers that are heavy on the fruit, it's just a

900
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 1: very distinct flavor and that's kind of all you taste,

901
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: whereas the apricot it kind of blends into this sort

902
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: of golden blonde flavor profile that I mean, I would

903
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: like to think that I would be able to be like, oh, yeah,

904
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: that's an apricot beer. But see, but I think when

905
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: you bite into an apricot, it's got kind of in

906
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: a cidic quality to it, and I think that's what

907
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: I love about it. I think that's yeah, and I

908
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: think that's exactly why they're perfect for something like this. Yeah,

909
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: in these kind of beers. So I yeah, I'm a

910
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: huge fan of this beer. It tastes phenomenal. Um mad

911
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: props to Wicked Weed. This is one of my favorites.

912
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: So nice sour, good amount of funk and there's Well

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Speaker 1: we'll have to get more in the Angel series as

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00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: we progress, as Matt makes more money so we can

915
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: buy fancy beers. Well, yeah, yeah, you're the one with

916
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: the nine to five with the man. You've got a pension, right,

917
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: don't you have a pension. It's true, Yeah, I do,

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00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: one of the old school. I do almost nobody to

919
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: your job. Who yeah, who has a pension? I don't

920
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: almost No. Yeah, it's a good job man, It's true.

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Speaker 1: So Golden Angel highly recommend it if you have twenty

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Speaker 1: bucks you want to spend on a fantastic beer and

923
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: can actually slash Yeah, or if you're even lucky enough

924
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: to come across this because it's it's really good, get it.

925
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Speaker 1: But yeah, Joel, thanks for getting this beer. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: drinking it with me, buddy, Thanks so much for listening. Everyone.

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Speaker 1: Our home on the web is how to Money dot

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Speaker 1: com be sure to check it out. We'll have our

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Speaker 1: show notes up there for you, and don't forget to

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Speaker 1: hit the subscribe button on Apple Podcasts or wherever you're

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Speaker 1: listening to this show. Until next time, Buddy, best friends,

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Speaker 1: best friends out, What are the rest to