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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with IR Radio. Hello everyone, I love you so much.

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Speaker 1: I'm most saying those listeners. I had to be here

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Speaker 1: three weeks by myself, three weeks postpartum by myself, because

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Speaker 1: I have to talked about the Bachelor that much. No,

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Speaker 1: but honestly, this episode, there's a lot to break down

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Speaker 1: and I am going to be doing it today with

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Speaker 1: Deanna pappis Um the fourth Bachelorette, because Ben is off

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Speaker 1: on one of his adventures. You guys, he has so

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Speaker 1: many adventures lately. I think he's in Honduras now. He's

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Speaker 1: going to Israel later this month. So we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a lot of fillins, but we love them and we'll

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Speaker 1: miss Ben. Dianna, Hello, welcome back to the podcast. We

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Speaker 1: love having you here. It's so funny. We should have

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Speaker 1: been recording, um this whole conversation because it was a

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Speaker 1: nice catch up for the last ten minutes, because I

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Speaker 1: can't even believe you're sitting up straight and that you

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Speaker 1: still look as beautiful as ever with a three week old.

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Speaker 1: You're very sweet. Uh. We were talking about being averted

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Speaker 1: to water during our pregnancies and how the first one

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Speaker 1: tends to be easier than than the second one. And

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Speaker 1: oh things that you know, it's like so funny, like

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Speaker 1: the mommy life really is like you could talk about

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Speaker 1: it for hours. It's just kind of like how you

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Speaker 1: could talk about single life for hours when you're single. Right,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I remember ever doing that. You

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Speaker 1: never talked about like just like I made that someone

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Speaker 1: like dating so horrible and I last date this my

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Speaker 1: last date that you But I really didn't date a lot, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I um, I have my own podcast with a

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Speaker 1: girlfriend of mine called Flashbacks, and we just recorded on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: and we were having the same conversation because I was

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Speaker 1: on The Bachelor and Bachelortte every as everybody knows. But

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Speaker 1: she was on she did playboy um early on when

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Speaker 1: she was like eighteen, and then she met her husband

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Speaker 1: when she was twenty one years old, so she really

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Speaker 1: didn't date a lot either. And I heard her recording

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Speaker 1: an episode and I was saying, oh, I'm not I

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Speaker 1: didn't date a lot, Like I'm not like a habitual dater,

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Speaker 1: and she seriously looked at me and she was like,

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Speaker 1: you went on a television show and dated twenty five

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Speaker 1: guys at one time, and I was like, right, you're

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Speaker 1: like I made up for all of the not dating

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Speaker 1: by dating real quick. So I feel silly though, because

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Speaker 1: a lot of times we'll talk about like I don't

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Speaker 1: know past dates or funny stories or something that happened

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Speaker 1: like in l A or whatever. And uh, most of

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Speaker 1: my like bad dates came from being on the Bachelorette

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Speaker 1: because I just didn't date a lot beforehand. I was

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Speaker 1: like always a relationship person, so like, I dated the

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Speaker 1: same guy all throughout high school until I termed like

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Speaker 1: twenty almost twenty one years old, and then after that

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Speaker 1: I dated another guy that I knew from my hometown

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Speaker 1: for like three years, and then I went on the Bachelor,

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Speaker 1: So like, I really just didn't I didn't like dating,

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Speaker 1: and I don't. I say this all the time. I

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Speaker 1: don't envy people now who date. No, Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: it's the worst. I don't understand people who say that

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Speaker 1: they like enjoy dating, like the enjoyment of the first

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Speaker 1: or second date. I just said the same thing. That awkward,

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Speaker 1: that awkward conversation where you have to try to get

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Speaker 1: to know someone, or like, so tell me about your

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Speaker 1: mom and sister, like things that you just don't like

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Speaker 1: you have to feel like you have to awkwardly get

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Speaker 1: to know someone, and I guess like on them, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you're on the Bachelor and the Bachelorette. Also, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't do it these days either. Watching the episode, I

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Speaker 1: was like, this is almost painful. Do you think that's

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Speaker 1: an age thing or do you think that's like a

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Speaker 1: modern Bachelor thing? Because for me, I think there's such

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Speaker 1: a big difference between being and your twenties on the

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Speaker 1: show and being on your thirties, because in your thirties

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Speaker 1: all you do is like crave comfort, and then in

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Speaker 1: your twenties you like crave that Adreadnaline rush. I don't

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Speaker 1: think i'd have the stamina in my thirties to do

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Speaker 1: the show. When I last did it, I was just

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Speaker 1: on the cusp. I was twenty nine. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: twenty five when I did The Bachelor, and then I

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Speaker 1: the Bachelorette, so that was young, right, Like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I think about how I met Stephen when I was

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Speaker 1: twenty six years old. I was a mess, dude. No

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Speaker 1: wonder I wasn't married, And you know, I think back

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Speaker 1: and I think I remember myself at twenty two three

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Speaker 1: years old. No way was I ever ready to like

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Speaker 1: like be in like a significant, like committed relationship that

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Speaker 1: was leading toward marriage. But did you think that you were,

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Speaker 1: Because when I was, yeah, I was like, I'm so ready.

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Speaker 1: I just can't wait to be a wife and a mom.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be so great. But then you don't realize

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Speaker 1: how not ready you were until you are of a

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Speaker 1: certain age. So let's skip ahead and talk about Sarah

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Speaker 1: and Mara. Because Sarah is twenty three thinks she's ready.

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Speaker 1: We're all watching her and being like, now, girl, you're not.

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Speaker 1: And Mara at thirty two probably has like a better

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Speaker 1: grasp on the fact that Sarah is not ready than

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Speaker 1: Sarah is herself. Um, but what do you think that

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Speaker 1: whole situation between Sarah and Mara, Because I do think

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Speaker 1: I also think she was well. I also think Sarah

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Speaker 1: seemed maybe a little drunk during that confrontation. I these fees.

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Speaker 1: This is where I struggle watching the show now because

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Speaker 1: it just makes me feel weird when women argue over

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Speaker 1: I just felt really weird about it, like, well, I

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Speaker 1: Like I just it makes my skin crawl. So the

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Speaker 1: I know that one of you put this into his ear,

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Speaker 1: but like Jess, you know we're going to ride off

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Speaker 1: But there was a headline that came out pertaining to

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Speaker 1: you last week and I had got together on it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you really often. Yeah, that Chrystal Stouse from Selling Sunset

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Speaker 1: said that she was supposed to be the bachelorette in

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Speaker 1: your place, but because Ellen Ellen de Generous was such

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Speaker 1: an advocate for you to become the bachelor at you

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Speaker 1: became it because all the fans rallied with UM. I

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Speaker 1: did not hear this last week. I'm far too busy.

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Speaker 1: I just don't have time for things. I but I

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Speaker 1: have heard this rumor a lot over the years, um,

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Speaker 1: And really I heard it because, well, Graham Bunn was

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Speaker 1: He wanted to win her over. That would have been

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Speaker 1: a great storyline. Well, apparently he was supposed to very

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Speaker 1: even like signed the contract, which you know is yeah,

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Speaker 1: to someone else. They do that, they like they I

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Speaker 1: distinctly remember when I was done on The Bachelor, the

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Speaker 1: producers calling a week later and being like, hey, would

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Speaker 1: out asked me, but I was like, yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: in my story. This dude chose not to pick anyone.

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Speaker 1: It would be weird to bring someone else. But I

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Speaker 1: think they do that every season. And you know this

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Speaker 1: as well, actually that they consider several people. They probably

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Speaker 1: and I also feel like at that time, no one

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Speaker 1: like a bold choice to make her the Bachelor. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that there's not true to her story. I

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Speaker 1: don't really know, and I don't know Chris Shell We've

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Speaker 1: never had a conversation. We've never talked about it. I

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Speaker 1: only know what Graham shared with me afterwards. Um. Do

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Speaker 1: I think that Ellen de Generes called and and that's

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Speaker 1: how I became the Bachelorette. I think she's a fan

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Speaker 1: of the show. Like I think that they were like,

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Speaker 1: oh cool, we'll announce it on Ellen. But I don't

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Speaker 1: think that she was like, that's it. I'm Ellen de

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Speaker 1: Generous and Diana is going to be the Bachelorette. Like No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that that is how that worked. But

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Speaker 1: I think and I know because producers said to me

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Speaker 1: that at the time, I think they were considering five women,

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Speaker 1: get network approval. So I don't know that it was

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Speaker 1: a done deal for me. Everyone signed the contract. I

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Speaker 1: like I was devastated. I really wanted them to pick

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Speaker 1: No one was in there. They weren't recording us. I

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Speaker 1: now to this day, if there's a paycheck to come

429
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: along with things, I'm like, oh, this is a nice bonus.

430
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that, but like, yeah, you're gonna get

431
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: really great opportunities. And even the people were going on

432
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: the show now it's amazing. I know I said this

433
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 1: before what social media does, but some of these girls

434
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 1: that go home on night one, and you know this,

435
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: You've been on the show back in the day. When

436
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: you went home on night one, no one remembered you

437
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 1: by the next week. And now these girls are going

438
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: home on night one with two hundred thousand followers, and

439
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,239
Speaker 1: they're also never getting real jobs ever. Again, you know,

440
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: things are changing. The following is going down a lot.

441
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 1: People are getting way way less follows from being on

442
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: the show. So people are going to have to start

443
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: going on the show now for just love again. I

444
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: think that the original question that you asked was right.

445
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 1: I think I think you're right. There is a number

446
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: of things. I think it's Chris Harrison. Yeah, I think

447
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: we're you know, no one really wants to talk about it,

448
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 1: but there's a culture where whatever it was that happened

449
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: right that he was held accountable for it. But there

450
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: is another part of the audience who watches the show

451
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: that we're really pissed that Chris got let go. There

452
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: was a part of our aut i'd say the vast majority, yeah,

453
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: who loved Chris Harrison. And Chris personally, he's a good dude,

454
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, He's always been kind and respectful. And when

455
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: I was on the show, he and his family had

456
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: me over for dinner, like took me under his wing.

457
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: I only had a PR person because he introduced me

458
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: to his PR people and was like, you will have

459
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: these opportunities, like be smart, but like, you know, stay

460
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: true to who you are. You know, Chris was always

461
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: really great to me. So I think there's several things

462
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: that are contributing to the lack of viewer ship with

463
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 1: the show. And I think Chris being one of them.

464
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 1: You know, I think those are these shoes that will

465
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: never be able to be filled, and then I believe

466
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: Also there was a lot of backlash when Clayton was

467
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 1: chosen as the Bachelor, Like people were like, first off,

468
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: who is he? They didn't know who he was, and

469
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: second off, I just don't know that he has carried

470
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: the season. Well that's the thing, Like if he was

471
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: going to surprise us and be this awesome personality and

472
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: this guy that like we get to know and we

473
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: realized just like what a catch he is and like

474
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: yeah he Oh my god, I totally understand why these

475
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: women are just fawning. It seems like a totally nice guy,

476
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: but still no one that I'm going to go to

477
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: bed thinking about. Yeah. I mean he's good looking. He's

478
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: good looking. I just I tried the first episode and

479
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: I kind of was like, I want to be like

480
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: blown away. If I'm going to watch a show, I

481
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: don't care if it's a Bachelor or whatever it is.

482
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: I want to be blown away in the first episode

483
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 1: and feel like I'm hooked, like I need to see

484
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: the second episode. And honestly, when I watched the first episode,

485
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: I turned it off. I was like, I can't, I

486
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: cannot stomach this. It's just and no wonder they try

487
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: to create so much drama with the girls now because

488
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: if the lead can't carry the show and it's nothing

489
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: I've I honestly feel bad for him. I think he's

490
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: probably a really good dude, and I think, yeah, me too.

491
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: He likes to eat a lot of chicken. I think

492
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: he eats a lot of chicken. You think that a

493
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: lot of protein because he's her beefy. I think I

494
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: remember from one of the opening for the show, Ashley,

495
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: they showed him or maybe I saw it on Instagram

496
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: and I didn't follow him because I was like I

497
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 1: can't handle that. I just can't handle He was showing

498
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: what he spends at Walmart for like a week's worth

499
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: of eating his protein. That was a lot of Oh

500
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 1: my god, it was just like it was like great value,

501
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: like chicken, and I was like, I can't. I can't.

502
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: I like to eat too much. I can't live my

503
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: life like this, Like I pounded homemade bolonnais last night

504
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: until I almost threw up. You know, I just can't

505
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: live where you've got to work out all week and

506
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: eat so much protein, so not any carbs that that's

507
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: just like no, like wine, how can you not have

508
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: a glass of wine with the spaghetti bolon? As you know,

509
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: when I was on the show, um, I'm from the South,

510
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: and they took us to it was for that hometown

511
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: date for grand Bun. And I will say this really quickly,

512
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: but we were is a two day part filming, and

513
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: so for lunch, they took the cast and crew to

514
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: a Golden crowl I don't know if you know what

515
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: that is. I've been there once. Yeah, it is a

516
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: buffet and nothing, nothing more than a good buffet. And

517
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: when they released us to get our plates, they did

518
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: let us sit alone together, but they were like very clear,

519
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: like don't talk about anything. And so he went to

520
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: fix his plate and I went to fix mine, and

521
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: I'll I came back to the table with like macaroni

522
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: and cheese, mashed potatoes and gravy, chicken fingers and ranch.

523
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: And when I looked at his plate, actually he was

524
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: having a salad with double chicken and no dressing. And

525
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: I have this see see that would be a total

526
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: turn off for me. I had this distinct memory of

527
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: being like this is never gonna work. It's never gonna work. Exactly,

528
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: all good looking and I like him so much, but

529
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: it's never gonna work. Is he judging me by my plate?

530
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it because it's when I was

531
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: with Kevin from Bachelor Winter Games, Like, the guy liked

532
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: his chicken salad way too much for me to like

533
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: live a comparable life like. And we're not saying I'm

534
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: not talking about chicken salad with like seasoning and Mayo mayo. No,

535
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: he wanted like his leafy greens with just grilled chicken

536
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: like for every meal. And I was like, Yeah, this

537
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: isn't the sign. Number one, This is not gonna This

538
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,719
Speaker 1: is not gonna work. Jesus is speaking to me through

539
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: mis lunch and it's not meant to be. Okay, alright,

540
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: So we do have to move on to our recap,

541
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: which will be brief because Diana is not about okay,

542
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: all right, we'll be right back after this, Okay, So

543
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: we cut. We started this episode with Sarah coming back

544
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: from her one on one. We already really kind of

545
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: went over this. You felt super cringe e because she

546
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: called out the girls, saying, one of you said something

547
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: about me and Mark kind of like admitted that it

548
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: was her, and then we'll jump to the cocktail party.

549
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: So we have nine women left, uh and Teddy, Sarah

550
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: and Rachel have a rose. Um. There's like really not

551
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: much to say about this cocktail party. You know, I

552
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: keep going remember it, you know, I keep going on

553
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: to the different sections thinking like, oh, I'll have something

554
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: to input for this, and I really don't because it

555
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: all felt like super boring to me. I wasn't it.

556
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: Mara did pool um. So I did appreciate that part, right,

557
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: I did appreciate this, and for whatever little bit of

558
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: drama that it created, I will say that I thought

559
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: both women handle it well. They didn't become like Caddy

560
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: and uncomfortable. But also I appreciated Mara of saying like

561
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: you looked like a child coming into the cocktail party

562
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: and going nanny, nanny, nanny, he chooses me, you know,

563
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: and she did. She did. I mean, I get what

564
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: she was doing. And I appreciated that Sarah stood up

565
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: for herself by saying, like, you guys ratted me out

566
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: to to Clayton. But then also the way she came

567
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: in with her rose like like like a child, And

568
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: so I appreciated the way Mara was just like, it

569
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: felt really insensitive the way you did that, and it

570
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: felt really silly. But then it was sad to see

571
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: Mara gets sent home because I was like, oh girl,

572
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: they're going to keep her around her another week. I

573
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: didn't do he was gonna like, we're gonna have more

574
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: drama between the two of them. Um. I also don't

575
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: understand actually why these girls don't watch the show ahead

576
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: of time and realized that the girl who tattles on

577
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: another girl never wins. Oh well, of course, it's really

578
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: bizarre the way that nobody catches onto this. I mean,

579
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: and I say this having been of you were for

580
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: right years before being on the show, and then I

581
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: went and did that. I know, I forgot about that.

582
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: You never go well that way you have just help yourself.

583
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: Depending on your personality, you can't help yourself. Um okay,

584
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: So here are these two things that kind of stood

585
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: at Maris said that her over Maris said that staras

586
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: over confidence was not cute, which we can totally get behind.

587
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: She also said that Sarah is sloppy, is getting sloppy

588
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: and it shows now. Is she referring to like her

589
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: being like drunk sloppy or is she talking about her

590
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: being like lying or her tactics or I wonder was

591
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: it that because I didn't quite get it. Yeah, I

592
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: didn't quite get it because I didn't I didn't I

593
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: don't know sloppy would be the right word that I

594
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: would describe her as. So I didn't quite get that.

595
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: I think she was just trying to get back at

596
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: her a little bit, because yeah, so maybe it was

597
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: the tactics because she came in again dragging about a

598
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: rose and that their solid foundation was gonna be okay.

599
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just didn't quite get that. We were

600
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: thinking at the time that this was kind of like

601
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: a Mara Sarah beef situation. The girls, the other girls

602
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: didn't really seem to be interfering at all, But then

603
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: later in the episode we see that like these tactics

604
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: that Sarah was using, which was basically just going into

605
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: like going to the house every time she had one

606
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: on one interaction with Clayton and showing off the experience

607
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: that she had with him. Um, that was like they

608
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: the girls kind of ended up thinking that was a

609
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: tactic to like freak them out and make them think

610
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: that she was number one. She was definitely being chosen

611
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: so that they would therefore feel less confident in their

612
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: connection with him. Yeah. Well, I also, um, I also

613
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: felt like no one said anything. It just seemed like

614
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: it was Mara who was saying something. And then towards

615
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: the end of the episode, you do see a couple

616
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: of the girls and their I T M s chime

617
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: in and say that that they felt like Sarah was

618
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: being braggy or that this was going to come to

619
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: bite her in the butt. Yeah, even that reON one

620
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: or I guess there's a four on one, so I

621
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: guess it's just a regular group. They all ended up

622
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: telling Clinton that they didn't trust Sarah, that they were

623
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: like that you they was trying to like play with

624
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: their brains. Um, but I wonder if they felt like

625
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: that the entire way through. I think they kind of did.

626
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: I just think that, like editing wise, they wanted to

627
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: make it seem like it was Sarah versus Mara. Well,

628
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: it's interesting that they chose to edit it that way

629
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: because I feel like every other season, when there is

630
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: that one girl that they're trying to pinpoint everyone against,

631
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: they show that they show the other girls, whether they're

632
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: saying it too. They show it to the other girls,

633
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: whether it's that they're saying it to her in particular,

634
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: but they didn't show that this season until the very end. Well, yeah,

635
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: there was like a little I know, Sarah made like

636
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: a little reference to it. And I always feel like

637
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: when you sometimes as they do this, and they did

638
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: this someone my seasons, which makes me like more notice more.

639
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: They did it with one of my storylines. They added

640
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: like one little line in there from Rachel about Sarah,

641
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: and then that made me go, So the other girls

642
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: are talking about it, but they're making it seem like

643
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: it's just a battle between the two of them, all right.

644
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: So at that Rose ceremony, Eliza, who like I don't

645
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: really know very well and Mara get eliminated, and like

646
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: there's any surprises here. They move on to Vienna, Austria,

647
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: UM where we start with the one on one with

648
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: Susie and like I thought Susie wasn't really into Clating

649
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and now I think she's

650
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: really into him. And I don't know whether he's more

651
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: into her or more into Rachel, but those are definitely

652
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: my top two right now. And she has the classic

653
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: date that we see on basically every season the fairy

654
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: Tale date, the Cinderella date, whatever you wanna call it.

655
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: She gets to go shopping, she looks great, and all

656
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: the dresses she picks out one and she gets to

657
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: like go to this palace and have dinner with him,

658
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: uh everything, and then like the guy who sings a

659
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: lady in red is there serenading? Now it was quite

660
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: It was this is again. I mean on my season,

661
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: I was ridiculous. I definitely it was a spoof. I

662
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: was total um satire when I sat around pretending to

663
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: be Cinderella left at home. But it truly is the

664
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: date that I wish I had experience on The Bachelor.

665
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: Anything to add about this, Piana, you know what it's

666
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: so funny is I felt a lot like Susie would

667
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: have been super uncomfortable because I am just like a

668
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: jeans and a teacher kind of girl, so I am

669
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: not into like the princess theme, so I would have

670
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: been really uncomfortable. But I say that I actually really

671
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: enjoyed this date, and I felt like it is as

672
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: out of character as it would be for me. I

673
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: I thought it was the most genuine piece of the

674
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: entire show. Like, I I think that Susie and you

675
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: feel it. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I feel like she

676
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: really likes him. I feel like they're going to be

677
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: a good fit for each other. I don't know if

678
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: he chooses or in the end. I just thought, well,

679
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: they look good together too, but like it just felt

680
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: really genuine, even though it was like over the top,

681
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: this princess date with all of this stuff, I um,

682
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: and I saw that in the conversation they had that

683
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: night at dinner too, Like I felt like she did

684
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: a really good job of me, Like you know, I

685
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: kind of was uncomfortable. This is not kind of my vibe,

686
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: but like, I'm really into you, and I just thought

687
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: that they that the chemistry was there, um, that the

688
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: conversation seemed to flow pretty easily between the two of them,

689
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: and that's those are the pieces that I like about

690
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: the show. And it feels like forced or like overproduced.

691
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: I don't like that. And so I think with that

692
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: being said, I just thought that they could be a

693
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: really good fit. And I didn't. I'm saying I didn't

694
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: think Susie had a real shot a couple of weeks ago,

695
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: or even in the beginning. It's not that I thought

696
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: she was going to walk away. Yeah, I didn't think

697
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: she stood out to me at all, and so I

698
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: actually changed my mind. When I watched that date, I

699
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: thought they seemed to be like they could be a

700
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: really good fit for each other. It was cute, Okay,

701
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: So then we go at the group date, which is

702
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: kind of crazy because they sit down for psychotherapy because

703
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: they're Anna Austria, the Home of Fluid, and they basically

704
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: have like a couple's counseling meeting. And the standout moments

705
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: are that Genevieve is so uncomfortable with therapy and crying,

706
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: just like the act of crying and being emotional, especially

707
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: on camera, which is why did you sign up for

708
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: the Bachelor? Uh? That she like kind of like freezes

709
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: and says like I can't do this, and then he

710
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: walks her out. I am, well, a, I love therapy because,

711
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: like I, Sarah loves therapy so much. Yeah I wasn't.

712
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,479
Speaker 1: I'm not as braggy as there, but Sarah loves so much.

713
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: But I am definitely a advocate for your mental health

714
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: and stability. So um. But I also felt really sad

715
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: for Genevieve because of how painful it seemed for her

716
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: to sit and talk and open up, like I felt

717
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: really bad for her because I think that there are

718
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: definitely people who operate like that. I am the polar

719
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: opposite of that. Like if I am upset or I'm angry,

720
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: there's no like trying to pull it out of me.

721
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: My child is trying to show her money to you.

722
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: It's four dollars, thanks baby, thank you angel um. So

723
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: I felt really bad for her because I don't I

724
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: can't even imagine what a world that looks like where

725
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: you can't like fully open or talk or be uh

726
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: like like open with how you feel or your emotions

727
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: or anything, because I'm just not like that. And uh

728
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: so I felt really bad for her, But she she was.

729
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: I thought she handled it really well when he was

730
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: sitting her home because she was pretty aware of the

731
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: fact that, like, she hasn't opened up at all, and

732
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: she sees and acknowledges that he has connections with some

733
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: of these other women that she would be like, it

734
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: just wouldn't work if he took it down hometown dates,

735
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: it just wouldn't work. She's that far behind at this

736
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: point because she knows that she can't open up, so

737
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: even though she didn't share much in that, I appreciated

738
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: her honest vulnerability and sharing that she just she wasn't

739
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do it. Yeah, it's not interesting.

740
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: She was actually in turn vulnerable by saying I can't

741
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: be vulnerable all right. Uh. Then the other standout moment,

742
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: of course is Sarah saying like I love therapy, love,

743
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: love love, And then she goes in there to the

744
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: room with him in the psychotherapist and she like kind

745
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: of expresses just how frustrating being in the house has

746
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: been and how the other girls, um, you know, don't

747
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: really like trust that. You don't trust her or like

748
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: have a different perceived perceiving her in a way that,

749
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: like she says, is not really her. Um, but she's

750
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: think Clayton was sitting there and he was like, don't

751
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: you think inside he was like this is strange. Well yeah,

752
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: because he he eventually calls her out later in the

753
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: night saying that he doesn't buy her tears well actually

754
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: because at she's quote crying, but there's no water coming

755
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: out of her eyes, which really confirms what the psychotherapist says.

756
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: At the end of the daytime portion of the group date,

757
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: which is there's somebody here who's was who was performative

758
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: in the room. Uh, And immediately like all the girls

759
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: kind of like point their fingers at her, and then

760
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: Clayton is watching her just cry with no water, And

761
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: I think that that is like that's a telltale sign

762
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: that somebody is being performative, right, well, yeah, because typically

763
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean unless she has no tear ducks and her

764
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: doctor can prove it. Well, you know, she said that

765
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: like she had no more tears less, But it's kind

766
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: of an expression. Girl, she's dried up. Girlfriend has dried up,

767
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: girlfriends dryed hydrated. I also would have been weird on

768
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: that date anyway, Like Clayton was probably like, why do

769
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: we have to do silly things like this with a

770
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: therapist to pretend like we can all be together as one.

771
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was like mortified, but still yeah for Sarah, Sarah, Yeah,

772
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: it's pretty weird to be like, quote in therapy with

773
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: somebody that you're dating when there's like someone that you

774
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: barely know. I barely know. I mean, you know, you've

775
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: been on the show. They have barely spent any time

776
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: alone with Clayton. Do they really know who he is?

777
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: Probably not no, it would have been like that was

778
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: that the way. Okay, So I was there, like I

779
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: got eliminated between like eight seven and eight and then

780
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: like six, so technically it was like this week, and

781
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: that would have been me sitting in that room with Cristels,

782
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: who I legitimately may have had thirty minutes of private

783
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: conversation with. That's so, and then you're supposed to sit

784
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: in front of a therapist and be like, these are

785
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: my deepest emotions and concerns. Let me lay it all

786
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: out here for you and this man that I don't know,

787
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: and also the millions of people who are going to

788
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: watch the show in a therapist that I'm just meeting

789
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: for the first time in a foreign country who knows

790
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: nothing about me or my past or my childhood. So great, Yeah,

791
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: very very awkward. These very most of them, thankfully've had

792
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: one on the one, so they've had more than thirty minutes.

793
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: But truly, Genevieve, who had the two on one, has

794
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: had about thirty minutes with him, so no wonder why

795
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: it was so uncomfortable to get one. All right, so

796
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: let's just get so really, not anything to say about

797
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: Serene's date except for the fact that I'm so confused

798
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 1: that she got the rose over Teddy. What. I think

799
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: he gave her the rose just because she said I'm

800
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: falling in love with you and he had no idea

801
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: what to do, right, was he just like I don't know? Yeah,

802
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: maybe for real some bachelors like they hear I love you,

803
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm falling in love with you, and they're like, oh man,

804
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: we got to cut this off now because poor girl,

805
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: we're totally leading her on. But he did not know

806
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: he didn't do that, or he's still excited about her.

807
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: But I'm like really confused because Teddy was way more

808
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: of a storyline, uh, just like her character on the show,

809
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: and we just I felt like we were more invested

810
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: in her. They made us more invested in her and

811
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: then Serene. So I just feel like Serena is the obvious,

812
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: like a person that we're cutting next week. Uh. Teddy

813
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: weird because she was first impression Rose. We learned there

814
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: was say her virginity storyline about how she'd be willing

815
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: to lose it to a guy that she was in

816
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: love with, she would be which didn't she say that

817
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: she'd be Did she say that she'd be down to

818
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: do it in a fantasy suite. I don't know. We

819
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: were all thinking this is going to happen, that it

820
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: was leading to a fantasy suite with Teddy, and it's

821
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: not happening. It's not happening, and it's so weird. So

822
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: why does he say at the towards the end, I

823
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: slept with both of you. I mean, that's not too

824
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: shocking now because it would have been shocking if he

825
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: had taken I'm sorry I missed that he said that

826
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: he slept with both of them. He says to two

827
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: ladies or two to three. I think he says, I

828
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 1: love you to three, and then he says to two women.

829
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: He tells them in front of each other, I slept

830
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: with both of you. But is that it's so cringe,

831
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: so cringe, but also not super surprising, not super surprising.

832
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: But look, why say it out in front of everyone

833
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: for people to judge these two women? And also why

834
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: do that to each other? Now they've got to go

835
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: back and think, oh, I'm not so special anymore. Then

836
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: you have to think about the visual. Yes, I just know, like, okay,

837
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: the way the fantasy dates work was he with her

838
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: last night and now he's with me, tonight's just gross.

839
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: It's it's like, really really weird. Okay, Well, anyway, so

840
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: there's that. So we're all thrown off, or at least

841
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: I am thrown off by the elimination of Teddy over

842
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: Serene listeners. Let us know, say something in the Facebook group,

843
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: because I know you guys are active in there, and

844
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: I really I want to know if you're as puzzled

845
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: as I have been. Okay, well, i'd say that's it. Danna,

846
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: you survived an episode of the Bachelor. Thank you so

847
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: much for putting yourself through that. Well, you know what,

848
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: it was painful. No, it wasn't all painabule, but I'm

849
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: telling you I had to. I had to like skip

850
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: through the end. I could not even stomach the rose ceremony,

851
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: could not even go through it. I was like, okay,

852
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm done. I just it's kind of like, what's

853
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: what's the season gonna be? How's it gonna end? Actually, well,

854
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: lots of people are saying it's gonna end with him

855
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: on choosing anyone. Uh, and I don't know how that

856
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: would be when he keeps when he's crying over loving

857
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: too many people, How does that work? I wonder if

858
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: he just didn't date a lot before this, or I

859
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: wonder if he's has he ever shared if he's ever

860
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: been in love? Uh, you know what, that's something I

861
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: should know. I'm going to say that he has been

862
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: in love, but I'm not sure that he's really dated

863
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: a lot. I think there may have just been one

864
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: serious relationship under his belt. I also might just be

865
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: pulling this out of my foot. It's the funny thing

866
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: about the show though, the women, when they're the bachelorette,

867
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: it tends to work out because we go on and

868
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: we know what we want. We're not messing around right

869
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: when you're good at making decisions just in general. And

870
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: then I feel like what the guys when the when

871
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: the man becomes the bachelor, it usually is this dude

872
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: who maybe didn't get a lot of girls growing up,

873
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: and then he gets on the show and he's like,

874
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, I've got all these hot chicks after me,

875
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: like I'm going to do so well after this, and

876
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: it goes to their head a bit. You know, we've

877
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: seen you christ souls, right, There's been several in the

878
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: past that this has happened to um, and I wonder

879
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: what this happened to Clayton too, Like he seems pretty

880
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: nice and kind and sweet and genuine and that sort

881
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: of thing. But I wonder is this also going to

882
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: happen to him because now he's had all these beautiful

883
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: women who are there. And you know this when you're

884
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: in the show, like all you gotta do is go

885
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: there and fall in love. Like all you have to

886
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: do is like not worry about food, you don't worry

887
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: about drinks, you don't worry about anything. You just got

888
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: to go there and like the guy. And then the

889
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: bubble is done at first, and then you're in real

890
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: life and you're like, oh wow, I don't even know

891
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: this person. Yep. Well, I mean another reason why paradi

892
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: maybe better than the main show because you do get

893
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: to know the people more and the success, right is

894
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: much better? Is better? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. I think they

895
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: have so many more couples um now because of the

896
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: success of Paradise, even a couple there were some from

897
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: Bachelor Pad and again when we said this in the beginning,

898
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: and I think it's just because those two shows, Hey,

899
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: you get to know each other more, but they feel

900
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: a little bit more genuine. I mean, you get so

901
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: many more hours with the person you're living with them

902
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: for over twenty days. Anyway, D and I know you

903
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: have to go. Thank you so much for being here.

904
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: It's always so much fun when you're here. You haven't

905
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: such an awesome personality and you have something to say

906
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: about everything, and I love that. Thanks. Actually, this is

907
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: a lot of fun way to start my morning off,

908
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 1: all right, see bye bye. Alright, guys, before we head

909
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: out of here, we have Bachelor headlines, of course, and

910
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: we will go through all of those after this break.

911
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: M H. Already, Bachelor headline time start with two with

912
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: Peter Weber. So he's predicting that Clayton is going to

913
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: end up with No One and he better not have

914
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: red spoilers or something, and like just trying to make

915
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: his opinion because that would be really annoying because I've

916
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: been spoiler for you guys for so many seasons now

917
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: and I love watching the finale. It makes everything more exciting.

918
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: It makes me feel like I'm not lying to you guys. Okay, Well, anyway,

919
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: this is what he says. My prediction, and I hate

920
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: to say it is that he ends up with no One,

921
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: and that it is it was supposed to be Rachel.

922
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: He says, I think she loses it and then who

923
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: knows if they all walk away or how it ends.

924
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: He thinks that she quote loses it over the fact

925
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: that he was intimate with another woman besides her. He

926
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: continues to say, maybe he walks away because it was

927
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: mainly Rachel. I'm hoping this is not the case, but

928
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: I think that's how it's going to end. He said

929
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: he's surprised that she that he was. He was able

930
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: to give her so many group dates like back to back.

931
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 1: I agree that was kind of shocking. Um that says

932
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: a lot. And yeah, I mean I I would be

933
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: pretty convinced of being Rachel if you were asking me

934
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: last week. But I think that Susie really has almost

935
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: evened that with her. So I think it's going to

936
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: go between the two of them. We'll see, we'll see anyway. Okay,

937
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: So another Peter Webber headline, because it is kind of juicy.

938
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: He was on our podcast a couple of weeks ago,

939
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: and he did say, you know, he alluded to not

940
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: so much liking that Hannah Brown revealed that they slept

941
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: together post her season post his season, But now he's

942
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: talking a little bit more about it, and we're here

943
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: for the two He said, I did not talk to

944
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: her after the book came out, her book where she

945
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: reveals that this happened. Um, I did reach out to

946
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: her and I received no comment back. You know, it

947
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: is what it is. I personally wouldn't have done something

948
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: like that. If two people have a private situation and

949
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: they talk and they say they're going to keep it private,

950
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: just keep it private. I don't know. She has done

951
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: this to me on two occasions now where she says

952
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: she's not going to say anything, and then she says something.

953
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: He is obviously referring to Hannah opening up about their

954
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: four sex times there there Yeah, they're rounding the bases

955
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: four times in the fantasy suite um during after the

956
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: final rows on her season. And now again she's talking

957
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: about their hook up post their season. So there's two times, yeah,

958
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: two times where she said let's not say anything and

959
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: then she ends up saying something publicly. So I get it.

960
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: I get why he'd be annoyed that. All right, Um,

961
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: let's see Greg Grippo. Grippo Grippo, you know Greg from

962
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: Katie season. He has a girlfriend. She is an influencer

963
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: in Paris. We don't know much more than that, but

964
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: it looks to be that he sent her three dozen

965
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: roses on Valentine's Day. So Greg is not anti rose uh.

966
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: And he also told Nick Vile this week that he

967
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: will probably not be hitting the beaches of Mexico for

968
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: Paradise because he is seeing someone. So well, we're all

969
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: very happy for Greg. You know, there's lots of girls

970
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: out there, probably sad that they are not with him,

971
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: because despite what you think of him on the show,

972
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: lots of good think of him as a total heart throb.

973
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: All right. And then finally Clayton, this is a headline

974
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: we can really read into. Clayton says he sometimes regrets

975
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: joining The Bachelor. He says, the first three weeks into

976
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: the show airing, I definitely thought, um that he made

977
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 1: a mistake signing up and being the Bachelor because quote,

978
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: because you just don't know what to expect going into it. Um,

979
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: he said. I thought this is gonna be great, everyone's

980
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: gonna come around. Started seeing my personality, and a couple

981
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: of weeks in, people weren't. It seemed like no matter

982
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: what they showed, even when they did show my personality,

983
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: like maybeing goofy. People would still say he has no personality,

984
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what more do you want to see?

985
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: He continued to say to me, I just wasn't ready

986
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: for the magnitude of criticism I was going to face.

987
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 1: He said that because his the season's um Michelle season

988
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: and his season were so back to back, he didn't

989
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: have a lot of time to reach out to alumni

990
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: and discuss like their thoughts on him being the Bachelor,

991
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: or like get any advice. It feels like he missed

992
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: out on that. But I'm just interested in his headline

993
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: because would you really say that, like you at points

994
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: regret being the Bachelor if you end up with somebody

995
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: in the end. So I'm thinking this might be a

996
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: subtle sign that he doesn't pick anyone, or that like

997
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,479
Speaker 1: maybe he does pick somebody, but maybe the person doesn't

998
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: want to do with him. I think now that I

999
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: say that, that's the injuicy stuff that we haven't seen before,

1000
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like Coltson esque. But like what

1001
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: if it comes down to like nobody wanting to be

1002
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: with him in the end? That would be crazy? All right, Well,

1003
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: stay tuned, people, So much for Deanna thinking that this

1004
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: season is boring, right, because if that happens, that is juicy. Alright. Well, guys,

1005
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate you listening to me ramble by myself in

1006
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: the past ten minutes and always tuning into the Almost

1007
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: Famous podcast. I love you so much. Thank you for listening, UM,

1008
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: thank you for being active on our Facebook group. I

1009
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: check it out all the time. UM and Ben should

1010
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: be back next week and I shall be too, So

1011
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: until next time, I've been Ashley to live. Follow the

1012
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on I Hear Radio,

1013
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.