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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot

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Speaker 1: screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys apt Now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and we are on the air. We're

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Speaker 1: inside yes, WBC Mortgage Studios here at one Cowboys Way

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Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco. We're inside Ford Center at

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Speaker 1: that Bill Jones with Everson Walls, Danny Sirek, and Mickey Spagnola. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the star of our show here. This is Mick Shots.

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Speaker 1: He heard the show last week and was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get back in there. I know, let's make

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Speaker 1: me sure. That's dumping on you man about that's what

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Speaker 1: happens where you have to make a flight reservation in

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Speaker 1: the middle of March and not knowing what was going

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Speaker 1: to happen in May, and I was counting on not

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Speaker 1: going to let us do anything. We're not going to

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Speaker 1: be able to go watch anything. I'm getting out of here.

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Speaker 1: So you have missed a pessimistic I was at that

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Speaker 1: time was yeah, yeah, yeah. Doctor Fouci decided you could

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Speaker 1: be out there and uh, you know, don't. Doesn't it

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Speaker 1: look like Mickey's glowing right now? That sweat and to

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Speaker 1: pull back the curtain here, summer has hit all of

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Speaker 1: us here in Frisco, Texas. It is. It's a it's

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Speaker 1: Florida muggy out there. Oh, last night was horrible. Last

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Speaker 1: night was horrible. Even with one of those clothes. You

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Speaker 1: can feel it now to turn your house that doesn't

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Speaker 1: help it. Yeah, it was seriously so. Because Mickey is

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Speaker 1: glowing right now. He's got so much to talk about

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Speaker 1: what he just saw on the practice field, and Danny

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Speaker 1: does as well. Yeah, but I'm not as I'm not glistening.

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Speaker 1: How about that? As much as Mickey, you're inside watching,

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Speaker 1: I watching and the air conditioning. I was working on

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Speaker 1: my camp tam. It happened fast. Nice shirt, Yeah, thank

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Speaker 1: you sir, that's it's my favorite. I was really dressing

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Speaker 1: for Cliff. But you know, well, we can't wait to

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Speaker 1: hear what happened on the practice field. This, of course,

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Speaker 1: is day one of the mandatory mini camp for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, and they were out on the practice field.

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Speaker 1: I was able to watch from a distance. I had

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Speaker 1: to get here late because I had I continued to

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Speaker 1: have plumbing issues at home. And I'll relate it to football. Okay,

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Speaker 1: as I told my wife, you're like a coach of

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Speaker 1: a football team. Okay, you had the rookie quarterback in there,

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Speaker 1: he threw four interceptions. Now you got to get a

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Speaker 1: veteran in there, and so he got the veteran plumber

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Speaker 1: coming to borrow to fix that. That's enough about that,

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Speaker 1: all right, nicky. What's there on the field? I saw?

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Speaker 1: I saw who was participating, who wasn't? Um basically, gosh

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Speaker 1: who who wasn't participating but could run? I saw George

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Speaker 1: Teague out there. He's not playing, is no? I think

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Speaker 1: they they filled up their safety color there are Not

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Speaker 1: to say George Sea would be desperate, but at what

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Speaker 1: age George te My question to somebody when I recognized

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Speaker 1: who's that? And they said, oh, it's George Teague. He's

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Speaker 1: watching practice. His beard's white as ever, he's got a

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Speaker 1: beard hair. Oh, his hair, his beard turned. His beard

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Speaker 1: is white. Yeah, does he have full No? No, it's

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Speaker 1: clapp Okay, look look good looks. So I think the

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Speaker 1: probably good news is even though that uh Tyrant Smith,

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Speaker 1: doing their rehab. I saw them running and they're running

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Speaker 1: being very cautious with those guys and they'll be ready

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Speaker 1: uh to start training camp. As matter of fact, the

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Speaker 1: three of them, they were uh tethered to these kind

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Speaker 1: these little things. The other guys running awfully, awfully well.

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence and Tristan Hill full speed sprinting. So they

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was good. I know it was

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Speaker 1: part of the off scenes absolutely, um and Tyran basically said,

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Speaker 1: You know, Marie's coming back from that offseason surgery. Uh.

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Speaker 1: going on that from OTAs. So they just basically said,

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Speaker 1: they let those guys kind of hang back. Kelvin Joseph

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Speaker 1: McCarthy said he had to do a ten day quarantine,

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Speaker 1: I thought maybe he was working on another album, an album,

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Speaker 1: get another rap going on. Yeah, I heard it was excused,

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Speaker 1: wife's having a complicated pregnancy and so he's been excused

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Speaker 1: to not be here. You know, I haven't really seen

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Speaker 1: like Zerline. I hadn't seen him here kicking or anything.

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Speaker 1: were quicked. Nashan Wright has consistently had good coverage in

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Speaker 1: And at one point when they I don't know what

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Speaker 1: He would have annihilated the quarterback because nobody could touch him.

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Speaker 1: He got off so fast. So those are the best thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he got quite a few snaps out there.

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Speaker 1: He was playing I think Danny Moore of the young guys.

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Speaker 1: not going to be win anything in June. I get that,

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Speaker 1: that's the talent to know where they're going, you know,

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Speaker 1: to decipher it and make that play. Yeah, of course

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Speaker 1: it's it's just off season. But to be in position

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Speaker 1: you can kind of build on because you know, if

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Speaker 1: you know what, you know it, you can't unknow it,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you can't go out there

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Speaker 1: him to kind of decipher things that will that kind

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Speaker 1: of gives me a little a little promise. And you know,

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Speaker 1: last Friday for my column, I wrote about the cornerback

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Speaker 1: be this, uh like everybody was just assumption that Trayvon

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Speaker 1: And my point was not so fast because Anthony Brown

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Speaker 1: might have something to say about it, right, the veteran.

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Speaker 1: The veteran, Yeah, he's been out there working with the

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Speaker 1: And I think we talked about it on the Blitz

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Speaker 1: How important is this time of the year for a

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Speaker 1: how did Parcels he retired? But he had hired well,

426
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: he stuck around and he was the OC in ninety two.

427
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: Fossil was so after Parcels retired right one two he

428
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: was quarterbacks coach and anyway, yeah, John M. Yeah, that's

429
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: a tough one. And in fact, Dad, it was only

430
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: seventy one years old. Seventy one years old. Yeah and

431
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: uh and John Fossil Uh issued a statement that was

432
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 1: I saw La Times posted this. It's with a very

433
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: heavy heart to announce that we lost our dad yesterday.

434
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: Thank you for all your thoughts and prayers during this

435
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: difficult time. While our dad will be remembered as a

436
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: longtime fan and face of the football world, his legacy

437
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: will live forever in our hearts as the greatest dad

438
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: and grandpa of all time. He leaves behind his wife

439
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: Kitty there, five kids and spouses, as well as sixteen

440
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: happy and healthy grand kids. Wow wow, wow, that's a lot.

441
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: So Since and another note, since today's June eighth, Uh,

442
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: this is recognized as D Day two and seventy seven

443
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: years ago, my dad landed on Omaha Beach um D

444
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: Day two's walk in history, right there bay. He would

445
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: tell the story, and here's how smart our army was.

446
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: They got They were on a big ship to transport

447
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: him uh into Normandy. And though to get from the

448
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: ship to the landing crafts, they had to come down

449
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 1: these these rope ladders right, and my dad said yeah,

450
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: and he goes. For some reason, they didn't figure out

451
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: that the two ships to two boats aren't moving in

452
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: the water at the same time, right, the same directions,

453
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: and so you're you're swinging and on top of it.

454
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: During their boot camp or whatever they had, they didn't

455
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: teach him how to swim, and my dad couldn't swim,

456
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: and he got dropped off, you know, and they were

457
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: all short of the of the beach line. Yeah, yea drowned. Yeah,

458
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: wherefore they got there? And I saw he had. He

459
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: did a an interview later in age of local newspaper

460
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: were honoring people that landed on Normandy and uh, he

461
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: had never said this, never. They asked him, what was

462
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: the first thing you realize when you got in the water,

463
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: He goes, The guy next to him he got shot,

464
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: And I'm going every time I think about it, I'm

465
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: still the miracle baby that not only did he survive that,

466
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: but also as a prisoner of war. So yeah, but anyway,

467
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: d day two today, So wait wait, wait he was

468
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: a pew oh yeah wow for four months? Well you

469
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: to be oh, I know, yes, absolutely, my goodness, that's

470
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: where I get my toughness. Gotta be from here. Absolutely.

471
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned people don't talk about D Day two.

472
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: G six is D Day, but D Day two two

473
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: days later. And so you know when they when they

474
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: showed up, them bodies were on the beach, that was

475
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: your first you know, uh, you know, first thing you

476
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: saw of a war because you know there wasn't anybody

477
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: to kind of clean things up. No, no, nothing, It's

478
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: basically nothing one day. I mean, so here they are

479
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: trying to get through all that water and everybody's yelling

480
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: at them, keep your guns dry, and it's like, well,

481
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: why didn't you get me closer than the beach? Goodness?

482
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: How how was America still here? Oh? That's amazing, it's amazing. Well,

483
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how we segue from that, but I'll

484
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: throw out the phone number five two two nine seven

485
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: if you'd like to talk football here? What D Day two? Okay?

486
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: You know another another guy that had a nice day

487
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: to day, um Johnny Dixon though yes, free agent wide

488
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: receipt sign a week ago from Ohio State. He was

489
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: wearing We got two people wearing six right white uniform,

490
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: blue uniform. Donovan Wilson, by the way, and Cedric Wilson

491
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: were not practicing I did, okay, so and Don Wilson

492
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: wears number six. Now, yeah, so that's why. Yeah. So anyway,

493
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: this guy, you know, his his last year at Ohio State,

494
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: he was pretty darn good. Um, he didn't get drafted

495
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: and he knocked around probably drafted. Yeah, I'm not sure. Well,

496
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: let me, I'll go back and look at my big

497
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: green notes. Right, I think it was twenty fifteen. I

498
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: think it was the twenty fifteen. You're talking Ohio State,

499
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: you're talking big ten. Yeah, he's gonna get a look

500
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: at They're gonna look at him. He got to go

501
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: to the combine and there was the doubt if there

502
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: was an injury in there, an ACL or something. I'm

503
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: not sure. But anyway, you know, he was one of

504
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: those guys that could take the top off the route

505
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: and he did a nice job today. I didn't he like,

506
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: he looked strong, looked like he was agile, like I thought.

507
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: He moved well. And that's kind of the first time

508
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: in the I guess how many practices have we seen

509
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: three or four where it's like, oh, who's sex again?

510
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: Constantly looking at you? Right, yeah, yeah, And when you

511
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: have guys missing, that's your opportunity. Right. There's no Myrie

512
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: Cooper out there, there's no Cedric Wilson out there. There

513
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: was a couple other the wide receivers that are rookie

514
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: free agents that were out there. Semi Fijoko wasn't out there,

515
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: so he got an opportunity day, and I think he

516
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: took advantage. Well, you know, when you think about it,

517
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: I was a free agent, so I had a few choices.

518
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: Three choice I think in New Orleans and Buffalo and

519
00:30:54,080 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: in Dallas, and Cowboys needed dbs. That's why they signed

520
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: so many of us as rookies. But if I'm what's

521
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: the young man's name, John Dixon. If I'm Johnny Dixon

522
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: and I'm a free agent, why would I come here

523
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: as a wife? That's good question. I mean, I'm just

524
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: asking why would I say same for a running back? Yeah, exactly,

525
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: you got Pilot, you got of course Zeke. Well he

526
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: doesn't come here with the idea that he's obviously going

527
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: to beat out Michael Gallup or Maari Cooper or Cede Lamb.

528
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: But there are opportunities as from as far as the

529
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: reserves go. I mean, especially when you look at the

530
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 1: contract situation with Noah Brown. Okay, he's on a one

531
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: year deal and he's free agent. I mean, so he's

532
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: in a contract year. Cedric Wilson's in a contract year.

533
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: You drafted one in the fifth round of a hooko,

534
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, and so there are opportunities. And then even

535
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: as far as starters go, gallops in his contract year himself.

536
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: So I think for someone like Johnny Dixon, this is

537
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: an opportunity. And I don't know, I have to look

538
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: it up. He may have a prior because he's tried

539
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: out with other teams there. He may have a relationship

540
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: with a coach on the staff, maybe even Adam Henry,

541
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: maybe he tried out there before and so and there

542
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: could be a practice squad opportunity and just to get

543
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: his foot in the door and get and get legs

544
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: with an organization maybe because and why not still with

545
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: the couto. Yeah, and so you got a revolving door

546
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: as far as the backup skill. So, and especially when

547
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: you consider what Cedric Wilson do to make this year.

548
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was a restricted preistrict so two million,

549
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: two points something million, and Noah Brown is a veteran

550
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 1: now and so if you get someone at Yeah, you're

551
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: always trying to save some money. Three million dollars count

552
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 1: found that, Yeah, go ask Atlanta right after signing Julio

553
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: Jones in twenty nineteen to a three year, sixty six

554
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: million dollars extension extension, right, So, which is why they

555
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: had to wait until after June first and trading exactly,

556
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: which is what we talked about last week. And they

557
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: put seven point seven five million of dead money in

558
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: the cap this year and next year it's fifteen and

559
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: a half million in dead money, So why not keeping

560
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: they needed to sign their draft picks this year? Yeah,

561
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: I mean because he was Gonnaly did not have enough

562
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: money to sign their draft class. He was going to

563
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: count twenty three to give ri the Maddie ice. Then

564
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: he was gonna get he was gonna count. I know

565
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: why they had an opportunity to draft the fourth pick

566
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: in the draft. Ye who would throw the ball to Jones?

567
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: You got the draft pick? Yeah, yeah, he could throw

568
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: the ball. That's what happens when you decide, you know,

569
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: the money is more. And he had injuries last year,

570
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 1: but it was only the first year he really had

571
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: and he still was playing. Yeah, well, thirty one, thirty two,

572
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: thirty two. So I'm sure that's just another example of

573
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: when you signed these contracts, they're yours, you know, and

574
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay dearly to get rid of them. And

575
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: that was the key on the trade was Tennessee was

576
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: the only There were other teams that were interested, but

577
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: they want they didn't want to pay a total salary,

578
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: and so uh, Tennessee was the only one that cut

579
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: him a deal then said Okay, we'll take on a

580
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: salary and sal I would not go to me. Tennessee

581
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the place I'd go. Well, you gotta go

582
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: where he probably did everyone. Yeah, but everyone's talking about

583
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: the weapons that Tennessee had have enough Tennis. They have

584
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: enough weapons that I know. But they did, they got,

585
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: they know, but they lost the tight end. John U.

586
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: Smith signed with the Patriots, and then their first rank,

587
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: Corey Davis, their wide receiver, went to the Jets. So

588
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: now they've got Julio Jones and A. J. Brown and

589
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: then of course they've got Derrick Henry in the backfield

590
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: and tend the tight end is they signed. They got

591
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: they got Anthony Ferkser who had thirty nine catches last

592
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: year and Jeff Swim and then they've got a bunch

593
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: of street guys. Otherwise, Yeah, I thought they picked somebody

594
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: else and that maybe I'm wrong, but anyway, he ste

595
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: that's what we used to call them, the street guys.

596
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: They're they're out on the street. I thought it was old,

597
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: the old Gil brand. You can find the defensive back

598
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: on White Street, on even Street corner. I thought that

599
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: getting in a taxi taxi squatters his base salary. His

600
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: base salary for this year. It was guaranteed fifteen and

601
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: a half million, so Tennessee had to be able to

602
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: absorb that to make that move. The Cowboys couldn't do that.

603
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: They may have to make a move to get everybody

604
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: else signed by time they go training. But I mean,

605
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: well I'm restructure. Okay, Yeah, that's what I meant. You're

606
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: not talking about a trade. So how many rookie have

607
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 1: been signed? The most of the class. The third rounders

608
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: get signed. I didn't think the third rounds, the fourth

609
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: rounders and back all got signed. Okay, yeah, I think

610
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: they the third day guys got signed. For that they

611
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: don't impact the cap because those those three guys will

612
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: their salaries will make them top fifty one right now,

613
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: and those those are the only things that count against

614
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: the cap right now. It's the top fifty one salaries.

615
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: And I think the cutoff was like eight hundred and

616
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: thirty thousands something like that, so they would probably get

617
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: end up counting more because of their signing bonuses. All right, Danny,

618
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: in the break, you were talking about the cornerbacks, and

619
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: I want to give you an opportunity to say what

620
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: you're saying to the rest of the masses out what

621
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: was just thinking watching practice. It's early to tell and

622
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: Nishan Wright or Calvin Joseph or you know what this

623
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: young guys will bring to the table. But they seem

624
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: to be trending upwards. You can get a glimpse as

625
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: to the potential that this scouting department, the coaching staff,

626
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, front office saw in these young players. And

627
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: assuming that it continues trending upwards, they have a good

628
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: training camp, you feel better. You will feel better about

629
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: the depth because last year Cheetahbay Woozier, you felt like

630
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: there was a really big drop off between the talent

631
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: and the trust you have between him or maybe who

632
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: might step in and replace him, and the Cowboys lost

633
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: him to free free agency. So now when you have

634
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: these young players and you've seen what they can do

635
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,959
Speaker 1: so far and how they're trending, you feel better about

636
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: it if you have to go between two or three

637
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Speaker 1: guys and your depth is a little more even, right, Like,

638
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Speaker 1: you don't feel like you have to rely on one guy. Yeah,

639
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Speaker 1: and last year, if you think about it, not only

640
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Speaker 1: did they Woozier early in this season, Anthony Brown got

641
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: hurt too, so they lost him. And then the one

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Speaker 1: free agent they signed there all whirling Bottom dial right,

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Speaker 1: And see that's the other thing is Trayvon. Okay, Now

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Speaker 1: we look at it, and we look at at Kelvin Joseph. Well,

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Speaker 1: Trayvon he was drafted like five spots back from where

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph was this year, and he stepped in and

647
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Speaker 1: he was a starter, right, Well, he earned that. Last

648
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Speaker 1: year they had put in place veterans Darryl Whorley had

649
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: started for four or five years in this league. Now,

650
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: obviously his play had fallen off, Okay, and that's why

651
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: he was available at a low price. As it turns out,

652
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Speaker 1: they had signed him. They had Anthony Brown as well,

653
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Speaker 1: and but Trayvon Diggs came in here and he and

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Speaker 1: without an off season, came in and they knew going

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Speaker 1: into last year, and that's why they had to sign

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Speaker 1: a Darryl Worley, just to make sure because we don't

657
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Speaker 1: know what this rookie coming in here, what he's going

658
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Speaker 1: to be able to handle right off the bat, and

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Speaker 1: especially without an off season. And Diggs came in here

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Speaker 1: and proved not only in the WebEx zoom virtual stuff

661
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Speaker 1: during the off season, but when he got on the

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00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: field that he could handle it. And that's what Kelvin

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Speaker 1: Joseph has to do now. He has to prove Otherwise

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Speaker 1: they've got options. They could they can play Anthony Brown

665
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Speaker 1: and wait on his development. And they also had had

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, it was like, oh, what do we

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Speaker 1: and you know, we're sitting up here criticizing him, you know, wondering, well,

672
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Speaker 1: the other corner, the other corner they're giving a good

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Speaker 1: look at. He played a little bit last year, I

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Speaker 1: believe Deante Burton. They were using him in the slot

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Speaker 1: with like the second unit. So, uh, it'll be interesting

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Speaker 1: to and I'm going back to at the competition right

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Speaker 1: stone at that linebacker. The level of the secondary, and

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Speaker 1: that's linebackers dbs, I think the level of the secondary

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Speaker 1: think training camp is going to be extremely competitive. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's there's going to be a lot of stuff going on.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be very intense. Okay, I think offensively

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Speaker 1: they should be extremely careful going up against these dbs

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Speaker 1: and everyone. That's a great tease for our last segment here. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's let's look at training camp battles that we're looking

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Speaker 1: I feel like I could go ahead and say it,

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Speaker 1: all right, uh talking about headsets that don't work? Okay.

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Speaker 1: There's an assistant coach on Switzer's staff at OU, Wendell Mosley,

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Speaker 1: great guy, Okay, And in Switzer tells the story he

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Speaker 1: I think it was a girlfriend who he had told

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Speaker 1: He told her that she He was the play caller

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Speaker 1: for OU. I mean, what plays do you call? You're

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Speaker 1: running the wishbone? Yeah. Anyway, so he would wear a

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Speaker 1: headset on the sideline during the games and it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be plugged in, and so he had a nickname. He

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Speaker 1: called him dead set. Dead Set mostly got is some

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Speaker 1: commitment to go, you know, fight through a story to

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Speaker 1: segment here, yes of mixed shots, as we we're going

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Speaker 1: of the mini camp here, so more to look at

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Speaker 1: the next couple of days. But let's preview training camp battles.

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Speaker 1: Ever since started talking about it in the last segment,

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Speaker 1: Mickey talked about it on the Blitz. As far as

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Speaker 1: the defense goes, you think how many people are have

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Speaker 1: deadlock cinches to start at a certain position on defense?

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's DeMarcus Lawrence, Randy Gregory, and Trayvon Diggs.

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Speaker 1: Now there's guys that are working with the first team,

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Speaker 1: but but knowing that they're going to start at that position. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got Lawrence at one end, you got Gregory at

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Speaker 1: the other end, and you got Diggs at one of

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Speaker 1: the cornerback spots. And I think everything else. Everybody better

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Speaker 1: not miss a practice and they're better not being any

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Speaker 1: brother lawing going on on defense. Yeah, there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of fights in training camp. You wouldn't add

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Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson to that list. Uh, you know when they

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Speaker 1: ran guys out and I know at this time of year,

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Speaker 1: generally they they acquiesced to the more and players go

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Speaker 1: out first, right, yeah, right, and then he flamed out.

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Speaker 1: But right now, when the safeties go out with the

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Speaker 1: first team, even when Donovan was healthy enough to participate

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Speaker 1: in the OTA's uh, it's been uh Demante Kaz and

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Speaker 1: jay Ron Curse as the first safeties. Wilson was going

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Speaker 1: out with the second ones. So I don't know that

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Speaker 1: that's set in stone that those are going to be

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Speaker 1: your starters. And I thought he did too, and so

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Speaker 1: I think there'll be some competition there between the three

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Speaker 1: of those guys, and then you know, and who knows

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Speaker 1: if if they get a backlog at lightbacker, maybe Kean

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00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: O'Neill goes back to safety. But I think there'll be

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Speaker 1: a lot of role playing, like this is our base defense,

787
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: this is nickel, uh, this is dime. Uh, this is

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Speaker 1: nickel on first down when they're going three wide. So

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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of different combinations

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Speaker 1: a guy. But that would be great because last year

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00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: they didn't have enough guys to compensate for different for

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Speaker 1: different positions. So yeah, I think there's going to be

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Speaker 1: a battle at safety and Danny. We know. I don't

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Speaker 1: think the linebacker position is set in stone either. That's

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Speaker 1: why that's what I'm most excited to see. I think

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Speaker 1: that right now, if you're breaking them down in terms

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Speaker 1: of position groups, from what we've seen and what you

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Speaker 1: expect to see from these rookies, that might be the

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Speaker 1: biggest depth you have right Like you've got Layton Vanners,

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Speaker 1: You've got Jalen Smith, but like, how far behind is

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Speaker 1: Micah Parsons or jibro Hawks or Kean O'Neil. Like, I

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Speaker 1: think it's very compact, and that's what makes me so excited.

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00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: It's like it's not so much like it's up in

804
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: the air. There's a lot of really good players and

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00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: you really don't know who's going to have that starting

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00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: you give up your historic numbers rush wise, Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: should be. And going back to the defensive tackle position

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Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, those positions linebacker, offensive tackle, that's gonna

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00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: be huge. Everyone's gonna have the magnifying glasses on those positions.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about the matchups. If you don't mind

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Speaker 1: me doing your job and segueing into the matchups, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to a couple of speech that's going at it,

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00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: and that's uh, Joseph and Michael Gallop. That should be

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Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah, that should be a good speed

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Speaker 1: on speed when you're looking at the training camp battles

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Speaker 1: that aren't position battles, but they are head to head

817
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: battles training. I'm looking forward to that because you're talking

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00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: speed on speed another one. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know how much work they're gonna have.

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Speaker 1: Taygwan going at it, you know, as far as his

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Speaker 1: injury is Gonnacern, I'd love to see him in the

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Speaker 1: Lawrence h going at it in training camp. That should

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Speaker 1: be a nice little battle as well, you know. And

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00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: McCarthy made made something came up about motivation or somebody

825
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: was more motivated, and he said, hey, it's like all

826
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Speaker 1: of us we were six and ten last year. The

827
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: motivation better be there, right, and he goes and he goes,

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00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: it's about everybody, make no bones about it. So his

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Speaker 1: point and he said that before because if you think

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Speaker 1: about the press conference he had back in March, he

831
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Speaker 1: talked about the number one priority to fix was the defense, right,

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00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that the linebacker spot, you know,

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00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: just look at last Thursday. They're they're in a I

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Speaker 1: think it was a seven on seven drill, or it

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Speaker 1: might have been eleven on seven. Layton Vander esh who

836
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Speaker 1: to me? And you guys can argue with me if

837
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: you want. I think he's the best linebacker on the team.

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00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: We still don't know what Michael Parsons is, but I

839
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Speaker 1: think from history standpoint, Layton Vanders is the best linebacker

840
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: on the team. He missed a lot of time the

841
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: last two years. So there's a pass play on the

842
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: sideline and he lays out in a darn Ota non

843
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: contact and makes a diving interception. Unfortunately, as I told

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Speaker 1: Bill when we did the blitz, he landed on the

845
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: football and he knocked the wind. Did right, yes, And

846
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: he's laying there. I'm going, oh, come on, just can't

847
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: be a shoulder and right, but he had knocked the wind.

848
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: But here he was go ahead, yeah, right, I'm gonna

849
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: ask it. We'll do that. Uh uh. He's diving for

850
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: an interception in OTAs because he knows nothing is secure.

851
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: I want to start, I want to play, and he

852
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: laid out for an interception in a darn Ota. We

853
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: don't have the luxury of saying oh, I could have

854
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: made that, and you know, no one made Jack last.

855
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: And the same thing with with Jalen Smith. You know,

856
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: I think he's under the microscope, definitely under the microscope. Yes,

857
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, he might have led the team last year

858
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: and tackles, but there were things in his game that

859
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: he needed to improve. And the thing I've noticed about

860
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: him is he's been more engaged with his teammates than

861
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 1: I've seen. You know, he's almost acting like a leader,

862
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: going around, you know, fist bumping, slapping guys on the

863
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: on the shoulder, on the helmet, talking a little bit

864
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: more so I think that I'm hoping that means that

865
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: he has a grasp on the defense, because that was

866
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: his issue, right asked you he actually came out of

867
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: admitted and had sometimes you don't know what the heck

868
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: he's doing. And even Kean O'Neill, I mean, you can

869
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: see he's played some football. His instincts they're they're pretty

870
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: played football at a pro bowl level before and then

871
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: Dabill Cox, I don't know how that guy lasted into

872
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: the fourth rod. I've always had a good eye on him.

873
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: He played well all your life. Okay, so knocking so Mickey,

874
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: have you ever had the wind knocked out of you?

875
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: I think the last time had happened was about forty

876
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: years ago when I was playing in a darn softball

877
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 1: game and I got in a rundown between home plate

878
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: and third base. Okay, just get a mental picture, right, yes,

879
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: get me down because I was faster than anybody. Right.

880
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: So you wearing like a pin stripe where the beggy

881
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: plannel baseball? Yeah, that's why we wore the long leg

882
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: I used to wear those little tho. These flannel things

883
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: are so why do they make you wear these? Anyway,

884
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: I got in a rundown and the guy, the big

885
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: old catcher, right, big old fat but Larry Mondelo guy. Yeah,

886
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: and it's like I'm I'm I'm toast right and he

887
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: goes to tag me and I kind of jumped in

888
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: the air and he need me like in the kidney

889
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: right here, and I was like, what the you know,

890
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: old man, I'm sorry, and I screamed at him as no,

891
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: you're not. You did that on purpose. Know how cancers

892
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: are there the dirtiest guys on the on the field,

893
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: you know how they go. So I asked Bill, when's

894
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: the last time he had to win knocked. I don't remember, no,

895
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: I down on the front yard playing football. Probably yep,

896
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: I can't even remember. I'm not that goofy. That's awesome feeling.

897
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: So how many people in the last forty years since

898
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: then have wanted to put their knee and I'll tell

899
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: you what. It's a long line. It's a good position there. Yeah, yeah,

900
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: they goes. So anyway, the linebackers, I love that. I

901
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: want to about you guys, matchups to see but well

902
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: online backers were real quick. That's what you would expect

903
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: from Jalen Smith is to be a leader. If Sean

904
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: Lee's gone and you're the most tenured guy, you know,

905
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: you're in your second contract. That that's what you expect.

906
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: That's what you should be seeing from Jalen Smith. And

907
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: on Lane Vanner as his point when he was asked

908
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: by the media after that practice the die for the interception,

909
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not gonna, you know, go half speed

910
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: because I'm scared of injuries or hurting myself. He's like,

911
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: that's not gonna make me better. It's not gonna make

912
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: this team better and even said more so than that interception,

913
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: he liked he had a soccer tackle for loss, well

914
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: what would have been And that's what he was more

915
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: proud of than the interception too. I mean, if you

916
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: didn't already know about Lane Varnet, right, like team number

917
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: one leadership, that says it all. And that's the reason

918
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: why you had a practice like you had today, okay,

919
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: where they didn't seem to be doing that much. Right.

920
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: These guys are competitive, and you get them out on

921
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 1: a field and they're gonna go all out, said boys

922
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: will be Look at the San Francisco forty nine ers

923
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: last week. They lost a safety with an achilles, they

924
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: lost an offensive tackle with an acl Okay, they're they're

925
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: you know, they're on a football field, and so they're

926
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and play football. And they were two

927
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: teams that half. They have a lot to prove. And

928
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers had so many injuries last year.

929
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: I mean, they had more injuries than the Cowboys did

930
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: last year. And they've already got a couple there, and

931
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: so that's why you got it this time of the year.

932
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: You got to scale it down and make sure um

933
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: and and they've scaled it down dramatically over these last

934
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: two or three years because before there was contact guy,

935
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: And I never understood you're gonna give somebody a helmet,

936
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: but you're not going to give them shoulder pads, right,

937
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: And guys are gonna die for receptions, they're gonna die

938
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: for interceptions, and you're gonna hurt your shoulder. And I

939
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: never I didn't. I didn't mind the shoulder pads. We

940
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: were one of those teams that just never got a

941
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: break when it came to uniform. But I'd love going

942
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: with the shorts and post the football pans to me,

943
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: but you're always holding your breath with the other stuff

944
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: because once you start competing, and even though there's no contact, man,

945
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 1: if you're a competitor, you're gonna do what you gotta

946
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: do to catch the ball, right, you're trying to interspire

947
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: them tea. I mean, you saw the collision today, right,

948
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: was it? McKee was, yeah, yeah, And it wasn't like

949
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: bad bad. He means. It was three people, two defenders

950
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 1: that they're trying to knock the ball out. He's trying

951
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: to catch it, and it's you know, and he got up.

952
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: He wasn't down long. And it reminded me of Sean

953
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: Lee when when he finally tore his ACL that had

954
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: some problems in it. He's in like the first OTA

955
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: practice of the spring and they run a little pitch

956
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: to DeMarco Murray to the right right and Murray's gonna

957
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: cut back and Seawan Lee is gonna plant to come

958
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: back and make the tackle and he blows out his

959
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: knees and it was like he had the surgery and

960
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: it might have been two weeks later or something like that.

961
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 1: And I ran into the locker room and I looked

962
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: at him and I shook my head and he goes,

963
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: I know, I know, And I said, what are you

964
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: thinking about? It's OTAs just let him go. You're not

965
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: going to tackle him. And Sean Lee goes, yeah, I

966
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: was just trying to do the right thing. And it's like, oh,

967
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: that's Sean Lee, right, and it's but those things happen,

968
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, they I think it's smart to get on

969
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: the field, get everybody together, but back off on how

970
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: competitive you make it, especially with the offensive lineman and

971
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: defensive linemen. They're not proving anything without pads on right,

972
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: You're just kind of touching up and go. But then

973
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, you get a little heated and I got

974
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: I got another one for you okay, you talk about

975
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph versus Michael Gallup. I want to see Cedee

976
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: Lamb against anybody, you know, I want I want to

977
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: see Cedee Lamb on that field in a second year

978
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: with a fool offseason, you know. And he talked about

979
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: it last week where you know, he didn't you know,

980
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: he was training at home and he's been in so

981
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: he's been in an NFL offseason training program and he

982
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: was as good as he was last year. That making

983
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: that jump from first year to second year. They always

984
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: talk about it. I think he's gonna have a huge year.

985
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: And he looked like a veteran last he did. Yeah,

986
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: he's always say that. He looked like I mean, think

987
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: about it. That was his first OTA practice, right, because

988
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: they didn't have it last year. Randy Gregory. This is

989
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: probably his first mini camp OTA because he was probably

990
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: after his rookie year. There were suspensions and things, and

991
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: he came in do you come in late? Last year

992
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 1: he was here, but he couldn't play in the first

993
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: six games. That was part of his suspension. So yeah,

994
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: you're you're exactly right. These guys are getting things this year.

995
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, he had a catch last week on Thursday. Unbelievable,

996
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: just unbelievable. It's like, how does he do that? Yeah,

997
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: and he had another one today that was a pretty

998
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: darn good one that he had to kind of contort

999
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: his body. I think he puts himself into position to

1000
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: where he makes these great plays. Yeah, it's too easy

1001
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: right now. And you read about his braceless like bracelet

1002
00:58:54,280 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: right he was wearing get your popcorn ready? Yes, I

1003
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: did hear that. So I think, you know, you look

1004
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: at what he did last year and he only got

1005
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: four and a half games with Dak right, and then

1006
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: it was like pot luck at quarterback the rest of

1007
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: the season. Remember, still broke the rookie receiving record, And

1008
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: I still go back to Marie Cooper right the year

1009
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: that he had somehow and then the shakedown, the ankle

1010
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: breaking that he did at the line of scrimmage still

1011
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: to me one of the best moves off the line

1012
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: scrimmage I've seen in a long time. You just don't

1013
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: see dbs going down like that as if you're going

1014
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: against Alan Iverson in a crossover move. That's the kind

1015
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: of stuff I like, and that's why Marie Cooper is

1016
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,479
Speaker 1: m dude, and I'll tell you who else. I'm sorry,

1017
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: who else looked good out there? And it's hard because

1018
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,959
Speaker 1: running backs, how do you know writing this stuff? Zeke

1019
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: looks pretty fast and quick. He looks like he's in

1020
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: really great shape too. I was insane. Other matchup, well,

1021
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: the two tight ends, and they're not necessarily Blake Jarmon

1022
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: DN maybe going against each other, right if they're going

1023
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: to do more twelve personnel packages and whatnot. But coming

1024
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: off the year that Schultz had filling in for Jarwin

1025
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: who missed all season. Towards the first week, I mean, yeah,

1026
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: he proved. I mean he had a rough first two

1027
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: games right with like miss blocks, drop passes, but he

1028
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: he really shined last year and proved that he can,

1029
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, take have a larger role on this team.

1030
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: And so that'll I think will be interesting of the

1031
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: two of them, and they don't see it as competing

1032
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: against each other. I mean, Dalton Schultz was like so

1033
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: ecstatic to tell media like, I want Blake Jarring be back.

1034
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm excited for him to be back, but I think

1035
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting to see. Yeah, this offense could be

1036
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: pretty prolific if they stay healthy. Says the Apostles versus z. Oh, yeah,

1037
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: that's a good one. It's a good one, Okay. And

1038
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: then three months from tomorrow, three what happens three months

1039
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: from tomorrow, it's uh September ninth. That would be September ninth.

1040
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: It would be Thursday night football against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

1041
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: First play of the game, Buccaneers come out on offense,

1042
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: and they they line up Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and

1043
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown as their receivers. So they're going with it

1044
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: with their three receivers set. Who who's lining up at

1045
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: linebacker for the Cowboys and who's who's who's in their secondary? Okay,

1046
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: let's just say their secondary. Who's in the Cowboys secondary?

1047
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: First game against um Tampa Bay. You know, I don't

1048
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: know if this is a good thing or a bad thing.

1049
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: But I don't know that I've got a guess because

1050
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: I don't think, yeah, we have to guess. You have

1051
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: to get us up right now? Have you got to

1052
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: get them out on the field right now? They're lining up? Okay,

1053
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Speaker 1: who's going out there? You got digs, right, digs? Okay's

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Speaker 1: at one corner? You got Joseph Okay, you're going with

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Speaker 1: Joseph the rookie at the other corner. Yeah, and they'll

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Speaker 1: probably use in the slot. They'll probably use one of

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Speaker 1: the Lewis. Jordan Lewis is the st Joan Lewis really

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Speaker 1: yeahs will be in the slot. So there's your So

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Speaker 1: there's your three. We're talking because they're coming out with

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Speaker 1: Antonio bront I mean they've got the three receivers set. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, So there's your three corners. Who are who

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Speaker 1: are your safeties? And who are your linebackers. I have

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Speaker 1: no idea on the safeties, and I think the linebackers

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Speaker 1: will be Vander esh and Michael Parsons, Okay, and then uh,

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Speaker 1: you gotta go with something. Let's let's line up Keian

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Speaker 1: O'Neil at one safety, okay, and let's put Kaze at

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Speaker 1: the other one, all right, okay? And then up front

1068
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: then a four man front, and you've got Lawrence and

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Speaker 1: Gregory at the ends. And who's your tackles? Go Hannon, Watkins,

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Speaker 1: maybe Gallimore or you go brand Urban, you go Watkins,

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01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: you got Hill, you got one of those defensive ends?

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Speaker 1: Will move inside? How about like they'm Terrell Basham Terrell basham. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard Jalen Smith's name mentioned. No, I don't

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01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: think he's on the nickel. Okay, I don't think he

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01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: should have been on the nickel last year. Okay, that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Unless they're unless they're unless unless they wanting to start, right,

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01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: they want him to start. You line him up at linebacker,

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Speaker 1: and you have Lawrence, Gregory Parsons and whatever tackle you

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01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: want out there on your front. Yeah, because because you

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01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: know DeMarcus Lawrence could rush inside, right, they got some

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01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: defensive ends. Yeah. So on that first play, what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Parsons is coming off the edge. He's getting a sack

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Speaker 1: of break. There you go. It's yo, Randy, right, remember

1084
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: the old the old uh sit not a sitcom, it

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Speaker 1: was actually Parsons is gonna come up the middle. He's

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01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: gonna line up a middle linebacker. He's gonna bletch up

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01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: the middle. He's gonna sack Brady. You remember you remember

1088
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: RN ten ten? Yeah? Yeah, you used to yo many. Yeah,

1089
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Speaker 1: this is this is thirty years, four years loudly. All right,

1090
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Speaker 1: so save that. That's Randy, all right? That does it?

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Speaker 1: All right? Yay, enjoy your last couple of days out

1092
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: in the heat. Yes, I will kang, I'll be out there.

1093
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: You should do one of these bucket hats from the

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01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: pro shop. That's what you need. I do need one,

1095
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: you know what you know? Those those those those I

1096
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: think you're hard like Safari Safari hits you. You don't

1097
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: need one of those. It's it's it was so hot.

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01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: It was so hot in which top Falls. I went

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01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: and wasn't I went and bought one of those, just

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01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: to make a statement. I'm on my ten speed with

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01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: me to Oklahoma. I was in the best shape in

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Speaker 1: my yeah, best for the hot and hell hundred it

1103
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: was hot. It was hot every day every day, one

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01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 1: hundred and five to one hundred and ten, and wind

1105
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: would blow twenty miles an hour, so it felt like

1106
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: you were in a convection of it. And there was

1107
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: no shade anywhere where. It was practice field. And for

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Speaker 1: those who live outside of Texas, which Stall Falls is

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01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: known in late August for a bicycle race, it's the

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Speaker 1: hottern hell hundred and so and God bless people. That

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Speaker 1: could right? All right? Does it? For mix shots? And Oxnard, California,

1112
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Speaker 1: here we come. How's that? I'm I'm ready and I'm

1113
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Speaker 1: hoping there you go, all right, very soon, I'm getting

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Speaker 1: ready for the Rams to come a calling too. That's

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Speaker 1: right practice there, So we go back in history on

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Speaker 1: that one. Right there you go, all right, see you

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Speaker 1: next time on mix Shots Go Cowboys. This has been

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