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Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: What a day already? Huh.

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Speaker 2: four o'clock John Cobelt' show on demand, the podcast version

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Speaker 2: same as the radio show, and that I'll be posted

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Speaker 2: as soon as we're done here. The day started with

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Speaker 2: a press conference in downtown La Bill A. Saley, the

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Speaker 2: acting US Attorney, announcing they have a suspect arrested in

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Speaker 2: the Palisades fire and the whole story was not what

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Speaker 2: anybody expected.

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Speaker 1: Michael Munks was there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was at this press conference and it was

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Speaker 3: a bit of information because we finally know, according to

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Speaker 3: these allegations, the origin of the Palisades fire. And what

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Speaker 3: because obviously the Palisades Fire was deadly and destructive, but

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Speaker 3: what we really learned today was the origin of a

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Speaker 3: much smaller fire called the Lachman Fire. This was a

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Speaker 3: fire that started in the early minutes after midnight on

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Speaker 3: New Year's Day this year. A guy named Jonathan rinder

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Speaker 3: Necked allegedly was hanging up hanging out up in the

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Speaker 3: Palisades and started a fire. This fire grew, firefighters came

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Speaker 3: suppressed it, but it was not fully out. And days later,

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Speaker 3: when the Santa Ana Wins blew in, that Lachman fire

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Speaker 3: gained so much strength and morphed into the Palisades fire.

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Speaker 2: So it continued to smolder for a week. That's what

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Speaker 2: we learned today, heat coming from it, and I all

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Speaker 2: the way down to the roots, the underground roots. This

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Speaker 2: thing was basically buried underground, is the way that it

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Speaker 2: was described today and the firefighters. One of the comments

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Speaker 2: that was made by the federal officials who were making

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Speaker 2: this announcement today was firefighters don't always put the fire out.

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Speaker 2: Their goal is to suppress the fire, and that's what

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Speaker 2: they did. So by the time the Santa Ana Wins

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Speaker 2: blew in the next week, there was an enough left

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Speaker 2: there for just this devastating, massive firestorm to blossom.

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Speaker 1: What's this guy's story.

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Speaker 3: This guy's story is also intriguing. He was driving for

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Speaker 3: uber while living in the Palisades. I don't know exactly

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Speaker 3: the Palisads. He's twenty nine years old, was driving for

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Speaker 3: Uber on New Year's Eve, had some passengers even he

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Speaker 3: was working that day. Federal investigators talked to those passengers

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Speaker 3: and they described this driver, Jonathan Rindernecked, as someone who

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Speaker 3: was irritated, irritable, unpleasant, not happy, in a bad mood. Basically,

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Speaker 3: when he dropped off his last passenger, he pulls off

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Speaker 3: has watched a lot of times, according to prosecutors. They

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Speaker 3: and this song's video includes imagery of fire. He also

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Speaker 3: expressed some interest in fire by asking chat GPT, one

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Speaker 3: of the artificial intelligence tools online, to create an image

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Speaker 3: along the lines of show me a city on fire

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Speaker 3: with people running, and prosecutors showed this image today. It

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Speaker 3: that was an image that he had created. So they

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Speaker 3: suggest that he is somebody who had a bit of

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Speaker 3: is going to play a role in the further prosecution.

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Speaker 3: Here is what Acting US Attorney Bill A. Saley said

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Speaker 4: Today, law enforcement got to work and by January twenty

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Speaker 4: fourth had identified and interviewed the defendant. His interview, he

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Speaker 3: So calling nine one one has told prosecutors where he

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Speaker 3: So he calls nine one one, wasn't able to get through.

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Speaker 3: It's not the same kind of nine one one problems

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Speaker 3: tell you about his motive, we can't tell you about

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Speaker 3: that's where he was arrested today. And the charges are

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Speaker 3: what specifically, it's basically starting the fire with that caused damage,

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Speaker 1: So will there be more? What about the twelve deaths? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So I think you know the US attorney bill of sale.

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Speaker 3: We've talked to him a lot while he was in

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Speaker 3: the Assembly here and now he's acting US Attorney.

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Speaker 1: I think you know that.

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Speaker 3: If there could be more charges brought, and maybe there

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's as tough as they come. I was happy

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Speaker 2: seeing him run the press conference today and he did

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Speaker 2: he live with his family here? Do we know anything

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Speaker 2: about his prison don't know a whole lot about his

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Speaker 3: He lived in the Palisades was twenty nine working for

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Speaker 3: he moved to Florida and that's where he was to

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Speaker 3: appear in court today. That's where he was arrested today.

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Speaker 3: I managed Florida in Florida. Oh is that right? Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: So what we're expecting next is coming up in about

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Speaker 3: other people in Pacific Palisades who will react to this news. Today,

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Speaker 3: they're having a news conference coming up, so we're going

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Speaker 3: to cover that as well to get reaction from those folks.

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Speaker 1: So we're still no Karen Bash.

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Speaker 3: She is put out a statement applauding the federal agents

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Speaker 1: She doesn't have a reaction in person. There's not going

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Speaker 3: I don't know that she'll be I'm not yet, not yet,

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Speaker 3: but we may be able to talk to her because

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Speaker 3: you raise an interesting point. I know you've been critical

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Speaker 1: Maybe the fire, the.

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Speaker 3: Fire department and all that we had a question answered today.

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Speaker 3: Possibly these are allegations. We now know the origin right

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Speaker 3: based on these allegation, right, but there are still questions.

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Speaker 2: So there's always a theory floating. They thought it was

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Speaker 2: They thought it was a teenager's local teenage ruled that

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Speaker 3: And you still have to answer the questions are not

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Speaker 2: These are a lot of questions, but you know, we

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Speaker 2: know why they wouldn't fully put out the fire, or

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Speaker 2: why when the winds were blowing and we got all

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Speaker 2: these crazy warnings. That wasn't the first place that a

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Speaker 3: I'm working on getting some background on that as well.

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Speaker 3: All Right, well, I can't wait. Thank you, Mike, thank

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Speaker 3: you good reporting. Michael Monk's KFI News. And yeah, there's

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Speaker 3: a press conference coming up about one thirty or so,

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Speaker 3: and we will go to it Tracy Park, the councilwoman

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Speaker 3: they have to say, and I'm not going to hold

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Speaker 5: We're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 5: six forty.

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Speaker 1: Much to come.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna spend a minute with Carl Demayo here, the

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Speaker 2: Republican assemblyman out of San Diego, head of Reform California,

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Speaker 2: and he is having rallies today all over southern California.

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Speaker 1: In many places.

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Speaker 2: This is to gather signatures to get the California Voter

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Speaker 2: id Act on the ballot, so we all would have

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Speaker 2: go there and collect some materials for the campaign. No

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Speaker 2: on Prop fifty. That's Newsome's proposition to redraw the districts

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Carl Demayo. I don't know where you are.

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Speaker 6: Carl, Hey, John, thanks for having me on and thanks

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Speaker 6: for helping spread awareness that we are out in the

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Speaker 6: streets in front of stores this afternoon in southern California,

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Speaker 7: Voter id events dot org, voter id events dot org

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Speaker 7: or join Carl dot org and it's Carl to see

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Speaker 7: Joincarl dot org. We are in Temecula, Corona, San Bernardino, Escondido,

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Speaker 7: Mission Valley, Thousand Ohs, Santa Clarita, Torrents, Hunton Beach, Tustin,

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Speaker 7: and Laguna and we have the voter ID petition that

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Speaker 1: All right, Carl, we'll talk with you again later. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, Carl DeMaio.

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Speaker 2: And now I want to do some continue to talk

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Speaker 2: about the fire here and then when the press conference

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Speaker 2: is ready, we'll go to that. Tracy park Is, I

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Speaker 2: think going to be the lead the West Side councilwoman

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Speaker 2: in LA along with other officials. I want to play

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Speaker 2: a few little clips from the press conference. US Attorney

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Speaker 2: Bill of Saley let it this morning, and then the

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Speaker 2: others speaking as well, and I'm trying, I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: pick out the most important. The things that jumped to

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Speaker 2: my mind is if this is the fire from January first,

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Speaker 2: which this arsonist started, and then they suppressed it, but

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Speaker 2: they didn't put it out. Let's Sandy explain what the

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Speaker 2: fire department did. Oh, I'm sorry, we want number nine.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to get into the full fire response.

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Speaker 4: I'll just tell you the fire department did respond, and

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Speaker 4: they don't say.

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Speaker 1: They put out fires. They suppressed the fire.

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Speaker 4: So they used the best of their abilities at that

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Speaker 4: time to suppress it. Like we said, there was dense vegetation.

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Speaker 2: guy started it because he got off on fires, just

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Speaker 2: a classic arsonist. He was listening to some French rap

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Speaker 2: song and the video for the rap song had a

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Speaker 2: lot of fire imagery. He created some check GPT artwork

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Speaker 2: of fire burning in a forest with people watching. So

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Speaker 2: I think they've got the guy. I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: any doubt about it. But the question is why if

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Speaker 2: the fire happened on January first, the original one, why

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Speaker 2: didn't the fire department put it out completely? Why didn't

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Speaker 2: they have a crew there. Why didn't Karen Bass convene

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Speaker 2: a meeting to understand what the dangers were? Why wasn't

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Speaker 2: their water in the reservoir, and most Palisades residents that's

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Speaker 2: all they want to know. I've got one quoted in

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Speaker 2: here in the original New York Times story, Terry Fahn

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Speaker 2: said that the arrest did not come his fury over

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Speaker 2: failures by elected leaders and state and local fire officials

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Speaker 2: to prepare and respond. I'm angry that an individual would

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Speaker 2: be so depraved, but it doesn't take away my sense

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Speaker 2: of frustration and anger with the government. That the brush

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Speaker 2: in the area was overgrown, that firefighters did not truly

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Speaker 2: put out the earlier fire or monitor the area afterward,

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Speaker 2: even if the strong winds kicked up.

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Speaker 1: See, they're not fooling anybody.

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Speaker 2: If they're a report doesn't address these things in excruciating detail,

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Speaker 2: nobody's buying it.

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Speaker 1: And firefighters.

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Speaker 2: Did not have adequate water because the reservoir was empty,

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Speaker 2: they're angry about that. In fact, I'm looking at some

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Speaker 2: of the comments to the story, and quite a few

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Speaker 2: of them are from the Palisades in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Here's a woman named Ilana.

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Speaker 2: She wrote, apparently there's a video connected to this article

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Speaker 2: in The Times. She says, Hi, there that video shows

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Speaker 2: my street and home burning down on the day of

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Speaker 2: the fire. LA Fire Department was there, but they didn't

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Speaker 2: have enough resources or water to stop it. One firefighter

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Speaker 2: told us they were waiting for quote the order to

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Speaker 2: start fighting the flames. The winds were not hurricane level

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Speaker 2: strong where the fire was, but calm a few streets away.

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Speaker 2: The man did start the fire on January first, but

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Speaker 2: the city never fully put it out and it reignited

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Speaker 2: a week later. That's one of the residents. And here's Peter,

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Speaker 2: also from the Palisades commenting, knowing that there was a

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Speaker 2: fire there, knowing there were winds high winds forecast, this

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Speaker 2: should have happened. Number one the mayor should not have

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Speaker 2: left town. Number two of the fire department shows a

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Speaker 2: truck to that location to be sure no rekindling happened.

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Speaker 2: Number three, LAPD should have been there to direct traffic

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Speaker 2: and help a smooth evacuation.

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Speaker 1: The traffic lights were out. Number four.

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Speaker 2: There should have been water in the Pali reservoir, which

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Speaker 2: was instead empty. Number five there should have been water

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Speaker 2: in the fire hydrants. And in capital letters, he writes

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Speaker 2: this did not have to happen. LA Fire Department, LA

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Speaker 2: Police Department, and the mayor were asleep at the wheel.

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Speaker 1: So now that we.

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Speaker 2: Know who did it, and I hope they put this

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Speaker 2: guy away for a maximum sentence could be twenty years

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Speaker 2: the arsonist, and I hope they can somehow rig murder

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Speaker 2: charges against him and put him away for life or

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Speaker 2: a ship until Salvador to the max prison there. Now

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Speaker 2: everything should focus on the extreme failures of Karen Bass,

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Speaker 2: Kristin Crowley, Genie Keinoniez and everybody in management underneath them

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Speaker 2: who contributed to this horror show. They should never be

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Speaker 2: let off on this. And I'd nice to see the

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Speaker 2: media wake up this morning for the press conference. But

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Speaker 2: are they going to go back in their boroughs for

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Speaker 2: the rest of the winter. How does Genie Keinonias still

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Speaker 2: make seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. Kristin

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Speaker 2: Crowley's going to be on a pension for the rest

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Speaker 2: of her life. Karen Bass is running for reelection. Boy,

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Speaker 2: this was an inferno, six thousand homes incinerated, twelve people

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Speaker 2: burned to death, and these three clowns are still earning

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Speaker 2: taxpayer money and not even a public hearing on this.

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Speaker 2: Why isn't Sacramento the State Senate, the Assembly doing a

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Speaker 2: public hearing.

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. Oh, I forgot one party rule?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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