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Speaker 1: Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: All Right, so a lot of chatter about hunting wives

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Speaker 2: that we've talked about on this couch. And guess what

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Speaker 2: we have Callie coming on formerly known as formally No,

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Speaker 2: It is Jamie Ray Newman. She's coming on. She plays Callie,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I just feel like we should just

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Speaker 2: I mean, I have so many questions, you know, the question,

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Speaker 2: she gets the question all the time. Let's get her on. Hi,

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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you? Holl Why am I so

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Speaker 1: pretty beautiful?

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Speaker 2: Rhetorical?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to have children here mam of three,

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Speaker 1: mam of three? Oh my god, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, because you have how many do

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Speaker 2: you have?

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Speaker 1: I have two?

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Speaker 2: You have two? And what are the ages?

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Speaker 1: Five and six?

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Speaker 2: Love it? Okay, well we'll just jump right in, all right.

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Speaker 2: So I think the coolest part about well, just for starters,

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Speaker 2: we are also Michigan girls, all of us, Yeah, which

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Speaker 2: I think makes us pretty rad, which is probably why

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Speaker 2: we're so cool and laid back, don't you think too,

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Speaker 2: There's something about Michigan anders. Well, I'm from I was

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Speaker 2: born in Detroit, but I was raised in Rochester, Washington Township.

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Speaker 2: So I went to Rochester Adams because it was the

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Speaker 2: only school we had, like in that area. So that's

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Speaker 2: where I'm from. And then ann Arbor area Saline Eastern Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, wow, Michigan girls in the house.

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Speaker 2: It's like we work a card. We have good grit.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're grit. That's what the therapist says.

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Speaker 2: She's like, all right, She's like, you're a scrapper. That's

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Speaker 2: what it is, like, shustler, you just scrapped the greatest

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Speaker 2: compliment you could ever get ever anyone.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: When did you move out to Los Angeles from Michigan.

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Speaker 1: I left Michigan when I was eighteen. So I went

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Speaker 1: to like I went to this to a Jewish day

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Speaker 1: school called hell El Day School, and then I went

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Speaker 1: to Cranbrook Cranbroop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my cousin went there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's a very artistic, you know, like when

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Speaker 1: when I knew I was an artsy kid, I went

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Speaker 1: to interlock In Arts camp in the summer.

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Speaker 2: Is with your blue Polo Jamie with.

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Speaker 1: You, with my blue with my knickers, with my blue

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Speaker 1: knickers and red sox.

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Speaker 2: What a time?

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Speaker 1: What a time. I mean the most glorious time of

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Speaker 1: my life. I pray that one of my children, any anyone,

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Speaker 1: because my mom went there. I have photos of my

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Speaker 1: mom and like her blue knickers for blue Polo and

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Speaker 1: a giant hickey on her neck. Mom from like the

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Speaker 1: Obo player that she was in love with.

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Speaker 2: No reds weren't the only thing getting wet easy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I left when I was eighteen. I went

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Speaker 1: to I started at Boston University. I was a theater major.

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Speaker 1: I was at their conservatory. It wasn't for me. I

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Speaker 1: left and went to Northwestern, which is, you know, outside

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Speaker 1: of Chicago. I was an English major. I was a

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Speaker 1: Russian lit miner. I studied drama. I produced plays there.

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Speaker 1: I had a spectacular couple of years living in Chicago

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Speaker 1: outside of Chicago and Evanston. And then I moved to

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Speaker 1: LA when I was twenty two. And I've been here

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Speaker 1: twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which makes you a resident at this point. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's wearing in lay longer than yeah. No, wait,

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Speaker 1: I haven't been here twenty five years. That can't be.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe twenty two years or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I remember when I moved to last because I just

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Speaker 2: moved back, well, not just moved back. I moved back

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Speaker 2: before twenty twenty. But it was one of those things

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Speaker 2: where's it feels like forever being out there, but then

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Speaker 2: you're like, oh, wait, no, it's only been twelve years

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Speaker 2: or whatever. It's kind of like dog years out there exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it feels like a lot because it is.

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Speaker 1: Are you wear y'all? Right?

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Speaker 2: Now we're in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: Oh no way, I feel like everyone's moving to Nashville.

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Speaker 1: Why is everyone moving to Nashville.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they are, and the traffic is

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Speaker 2: reflecting it. If I'm completely honest, it is but welcome.

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Speaker 2: It's all good. I don't know, but it's great though.

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Speaker 2: I Mean, when I was having my second, it was

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Speaker 2: but I felt good enough. I you know, Michigan roots,

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Speaker 2: I couldn't the house that we had there. It was

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Speaker 2: like dirt and turf and it was just like small,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I wanted just a bigger home for

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Speaker 2: my kids and I knew that the way of living

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Speaker 2: for them would be better here just for what I

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Speaker 2: could give them. So it was either that or move

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Speaker 2: out to Calibata or what was it, Santa Clarita. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: I might as well move to Nashville because it's.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's a or Yeah. We have friends who owned

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Speaker 1: a shoe box in Venice, like nine, you know, eight

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that they had bought it like

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Speaker 1: ten years fifteen years earlier. They sold it for like

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Speaker 1: two and a half million dollars or something insane and

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Speaker 1: bought basically a compound in Ohai. I mean to raise

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Speaker 1: you know. Now they have four kids. So I get it.

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Speaker 1: I understand. It's uh, yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: I don't do you want to knock it off with that?

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Speaker 2: I have to go right in, Jamie, No I do, girl, are.

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Speaker 1: We gonna start with that scene?

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Speaker 2: I don't know it was a pink because I did

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Speaker 2: not blame that, Jamie. Okay, I did not have lam.

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Speaker 1: The big pink hydro job. Well, it is a big tildo.

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Speaker 1: It is as big as.

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Speaker 2: It was in the scene. Is from what it is

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Speaker 2: burned into my memory. I do have to say we

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Speaker 2: started watching Hunting Wives because I married a redneck, and

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Speaker 2: he was like, Hunting Wives, we're going to do this.

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Speaker 2: I think he thought what we were going to watch

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Speaker 2: was so different. He was not upset with what we

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Speaker 2: were watching. Sure, right, but your character specifically has a

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Speaker 2: history on this couch. Do we want to talk about it?

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Speaker 2: So I actually got pinned for the roll of Cali.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I got pinned and it was right after

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Speaker 2: my gosh, like right after I gave birth to Roman.

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Speaker 2: So I'm already like so emotional, right, and so I

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Speaker 2: got pinnos. So they're like, you know, you got pinned,

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah, sending your tapes for the testing, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, well obviously I didn't get

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Speaker 2: it's like you get so close. I almost hate getting

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Speaker 2: close life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my life every day of the week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like when.

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Speaker 2: It's pulled the same thing. I just tested for something

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Speaker 2: two weeks ago, you know, got the call, didn't get it,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'd rather not even get close. Because

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Speaker 2: the getting close is what like hurts the most because

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Speaker 2: then it's just like you can almost taste it and

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Speaker 2: then it goes away. And so at first I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to watch the show, but I'm like, no, like,

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Speaker 2: celebrate the person that got it and watch the show.

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Speaker 2: It's getting you know, all these reviews, and it's like

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Speaker 2: I want to see it, and I'm like, damn, she

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Speaker 2: was the right person for the job. You were incrediable,

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Speaker 2: like you were so good, and I was just like

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Speaker 2: watching it. So they want and wanted to watch it

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Speaker 2: too because they knew that like the whole story of like,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't know what part. I didn't ask Kurt.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to know what part it would have been,

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Speaker 2: and I was trying to guess. Yeah, but I do

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Speaker 2: think that you're Cassie you or has a type because

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Speaker 2: they obviously like Michigan girls to play that role. It's

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Speaker 2: very strong women. I'm like, Okay, I see where we're

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Speaker 2: of course, not only are you an amazing actress, but

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Speaker 2: I was like, you were the perfect Cali, so well

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Speaker 2: well done, like amazing, And we were talking about the

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Speaker 2: show last week on the show, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: can we please get her on because I just want

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Speaker 2: to talk about all of it, but also like the

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Speaker 2: because she had said something about being a mom and

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Speaker 2: doing those scenes, and I'm like, well, she's a mom,

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Speaker 2: you know, so it's like but I'm like, how fun

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Speaker 2: would it be to play that role too? But she

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Speaker 2: was also I'll let you finish that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just was like, does she ever worried that

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Speaker 2: that play out as an actress? Because I've I'm not

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Speaker 2: I am best friends with an actress, and so I

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Speaker 2: see the behind the scenes all the time, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: how does it? How do you read? And did you

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Speaker 2: read knowing that that was going to be in there?

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Speaker 2: And I just I know it expands and you guys

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Speaker 2: have these creative, incredible minds, and I just want to

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Speaker 2: know how you get there? How do you get there?

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Speaker 2: Kelly tell us, Did you know what was coming for you?

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Speaker 2: Is my first part of that question.

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Speaker 1: Well, when I when I think when I auditioned for

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Speaker 1: it, it said like simulated sex or something. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: like a disclaimer nudity or you know whatever, and it

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Speaker 1: was like, all right, whatever, I mean, that's fine by me.

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Speaker 1: And then when I got when I got the job,

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Speaker 1: I they said there is a scene that you need

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Speaker 1: to sign off on. And I was like, okay. And

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Speaker 1: my my agent, one of my agents, who's you know,

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Speaker 1: it is like fifty sixties gay, lovely, like sweetheart. I

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Speaker 1: love him so much. And my manager, who is also

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Speaker 1: you know, in her late fifties. I've been with her

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Speaker 1: for twenty five years. She's like my other sister mother,

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Speaker 1: you know whatever. They were like, well, it involves pegging.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, what is pegging?

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Speaker 2: Google's pegging chat GBT, what is pegging?

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Speaker 1: The two of them, my agent and my manager, who

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Speaker 1: are you know, not young people, Uh've been married, both

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Speaker 1: married for many many years, you know. They had to

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Speaker 1: explain to me what pegging was. That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Tell me your first thought once you hear that this

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Speaker 2: is the scene you're signing off on.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I didn't think that much of it. I mean

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Speaker 1: I thought, like I read they gave me all the scripts.

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Speaker 1: I read all eight. This is before I signed I

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Speaker 1: signed my deal. I read all of them and I

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Speaker 1: was like, this is just candy. This is what the

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Speaker 1: world needs right now. This is forty something year old

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Speaker 1: women taking their clothes off, having a great time, enjoining themselves.

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Speaker 1: Bring it, you know what I mean, Like, Yes, let's

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Speaker 1: do this. Let's show the world that your life doesn't

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Speaker 1: happen when you're thirty five or forty five, or you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, if anyone is going to

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Speaker 1: see this, let's like, let this be the thing that

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Speaker 2: oldest to ballet and I came home, you know, and

435
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Speaker 2: then I'm trying to fit in, like What's the most

436
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Speaker 2: effective thing I can do while I'm at ballet for

437
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Speaker 2: two hours? Right, because you're just trying to like, how

438
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Speaker 2: do I how can I make this about me a

439
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 2: little bit?

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Speaker 1: You know?

441
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 2: And then I got home and my husband was just

442
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 2: alone for two hours. That was it, And and our

443
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 2: Saint Christine's we call her, had left at five and

444
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 2: at seven I walked in, and I'm like, what happened

445
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 2: in here? You know? And I thought like if I

446
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 2: didn't have her, how it just it's you know, like

447
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 2: nothing's ever perfect, but just the help that she's provided

448
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 2: took me three kids, a lot of stubbornness, my Michigan roots,

449
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 2: all of that to get over to finally get help,

450
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 2: and it has absolutely changed my life. So and I

451
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: watch my best friend go out and do and live

452
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Speaker 2: her dreams and get the help she needs. And it's

453
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: not easier for any of us. I'd assume you the

454
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Speaker 2: same to ask for help because of just our you know,

455
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: how old are are all the same? Nine six and

456
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Speaker 2: almost two?

457
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Speaker 1: Oh, so you guys also have littles. Yeah, you're also

458
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Speaker 1: so in.

459
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Speaker 2: The Yeah, and it's all balancing the thing where it's like,

460
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: you know, they they moved a production, so I just

461
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 2: shot something and I'm like, I can't miss the first

462
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: day and so I you know, So it's and I

463
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 2: have missed certain things that break my heart, and so

464
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 2: it's trying to find the balance and also tell them,

465
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Speaker 2: like Mommy, you know, needs to be gone because this

466
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 2: is her dream, this is how she provides for everybody,

467
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Speaker 2: and the clothes that you'm all, I mean, all the things,

468
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 2: you know, but it's you know, it's trying to be

469
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 2: there but also live dreams too. But it's hard. And

470
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Speaker 2: I don't think I ever are going to feel like

471
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Speaker 2: we've nailed parenting. I think we should just release ourselves

472
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 2: from that immediately and then we can just enjoy the ride. Yeah,

473
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Speaker 2: And I was so overwhelmed the other day, so I'll

474
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: just calm myself out. I literally could not stand My

475
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: kids for some reason are just getting really picky with

476
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 2: her food and they're just complaining about it, and I

477
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: was like, just eat your food, like I just like

478
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't handle it anymore. And I'm just like and

479
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 2: then I usually don't yell like that, but I stepped

480
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: away from the table and even Alan gave me a

481
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 2: look like whoa, And I'm like, I got I don't know.

482
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 2: I'm just like I'm overwhelmed. I'm over like I'm tired,

483
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 2: and like eat your salmon. Do you want me to

484
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: start showing you pictures of kids in Gaza? I'm getting there.

485
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 2: Do you guys to see the children commercials? I mean,

486
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: I think it does have an impact on our world, right, yeah,

487
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: these lavish little babies here, we are providing worlds where

488
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: they don't have to miss things that we missed. But

489
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 2: it's also like some of those things shape a human,

490
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Speaker 2: you know. So you're doing great, You're doing exceptionally.

491
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Speaker 1: The kids from what I'm realizing, I don't think the

492
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: kids will ever be grateful, Like it's very hard for

493
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Speaker 1: a five six, seven year old to understand what, you know,

494
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't certainly, you know, And I remember my you know,

495
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: probably being shown the kids and you know, live Aid

496
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: and Ethiopia, and you know, I don't think that it's

497
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: very difficult for a child to connect that. But I

498
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: just am learning how to like keep my together, keep

499
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: my cool, that is for me the biggest challenge, and

500
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: then thinking of alternatives to distract them or to you

501
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Speaker 1: know that I don't. I don't think that I am

502
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Speaker 1: innately like I have friends who are just innately amazing parents. Actually,

503
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Speaker 1: Mollan Mallin said to me one day, I would be

504
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: if I was an actress, I would be like a

505
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: child psychologist. And I look at her and the advice

506
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: that she gives and just the way that she navigates parenting.

507
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: I don't have that intrinsically, and I kind of think

508
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: you're born with it or you're not. And I am

509
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 1: really really just learning on the go. But also like

510
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 1: I had my first child at forty, so even going

511
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: to my mom and my mom my parents were amazing parents,

512
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, really really great great parents. He doesn't remember.

513
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: So the concept of like aunties and grandma's and cousins

514
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: and nieces and nephews and all around in the quote

515
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: unquote village, like, I have none of that. My husband's

516
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: family they're all, you know, broad like, so I rely

517
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: on Instagram, you know, doctor Becky.

518
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: Oh oh, doctor Becky. Love Well that's a thing too, though,

519
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: like what you were saying, like if we had our

520
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: last one in our at forty so it's there's something

521
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: with the hormones too in that age, you know, It's

522
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: way different than when my babies that I had in thirties.

523
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Speaker 1: It just is, are you tired? Are you just tired.

524
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 2: All your time and exhausted by the end of the night.

525
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: I'm like depleted, like I'm walking through drying cement some days.

526
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: That is also I'm chasing around to almost two year old.

527
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 2: That's like insane, but that's also true us.

528
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: You both have two year olds.

529
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't plan any you know, but yeah, no,

530
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: but you're doing great. You're doing great, and we're going

531
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: to pass that along to ourselves too. Jamie, you are awesome.

532
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 2: I am just rooting for a season two because it's

533
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: just so fun to watch y'all's characters. And yeah, if

534
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: you're ever in Nashville, come on, come on over.

535
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Speaker 1: Honestly, I swear to god, my husband said, because we're

536
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: always talking about what are other places rather than la

537
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: We have our favorite coffee shop, the Red Red Window

538
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 1: in Studio City, which we love so much. Love they

539
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: we got we got home on Friday, landed and went

540
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: right to our favorite coffee shop, of course, and they

541
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: moved to Nashville. Wow, And so guys said to me.

542
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: My husband was like, do we need to move to Nashville.

543
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought that when we were shooting in Charlotte.

544
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: Do we need to move to Charlotte? Right?

545
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's easy to fallow similar it is, it

546
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: really is. But we will welcome you, We really will.

547
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna need you. Well, You're a California driver.

548
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: I'll take that any day. It's the rest of these

549
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: folks I can't handle. Jamie.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, guys so much, so much.

551
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Speaker 2: Appreciate you girl. We love you.

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Speaker 1: Godh