1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks presented by 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Zaxby's DJ and Bucky back together. First of all, Buck, 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: I missed you yesterday on the UH on the pod 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: when we didn't get a chance to have you on. 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: There had some technical difficulties, which is where we are in. Yeah, 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: we have some issues. We have some issues, uh I 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: guess with my internet and not coming up. But hopefully 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: everything is resolved. We're able to go on some other 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: network shows and kind of get it done. So hopefully 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: that won't be an issue going forward because there were 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: some little negats I wanted to drop yesterday, but you know, man, 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm we're gonna get to the bulk of the podcast. 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Going to look at that Chiefs Ravens, the play of 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Mahomes and the mar Jackson. What does that mean? What 16 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: did we see? What does that mean going forward? We 17 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about um some interesting 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: comments that Larry Fitzgerald made on the Huddle and Flow 19 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: podcast with our buddies Trotter and White about the lack 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: of fans and the impact that has on offenses. So 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna touch on that, and I want to get 22 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: into some of these college kids and what we saw 23 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: over the weekend and um, maybe a trend how things 24 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: have changed in the eyes of evaluators as it pertains 25 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: to a certain style of quarterback. But before we get 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: to all that stuff, Buck, I want to give you 27 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: the floor to h to get out what you want 28 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: to get out yesterday. Now, the big thing I think 29 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: DJ like, and this will apply because we're gonna talk 30 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: about those quarterbacks. But I think the Josh Allen conversation 31 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: is really interesting and it's interesting to watch him perform, 32 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: right because when you look at the numbers of numbers 33 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: are extending, and when you watch him play, he goes 34 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: through these moments. I kind of call it the Josh 35 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: Allen experience. He starts out hot, he loses his way, 36 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: he finds his way, and he wins a game with 37 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: a game winning drive. And I think the thing about 38 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: Josh Allen because I see this kind of floating out 39 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: on Twitters, like, Hey, I don't understand why people want 40 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: to admit that they were wrong on him or whatever. 41 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's about admitting whether you're right 42 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: or wrong on Josh. I think he's being able to 43 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: evaluate him where he is now and the job that 44 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills have done to really help him. He 45 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: isn't proved a lot because he doesn't make as many 46 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: what I call hero throw attempts as he does, but 47 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: each and every week one or two of those show up, 48 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: and right now this year, the opponent has been dropping him, 49 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: so he hasn't had the turnovers. Um. He is much 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: better when it comes to the accuracy that he's displayed, 51 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: but some of that is tied to the fact that 52 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills aren't pushing the ball down the field 53 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: as much as they were when he first got into 54 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: the league. The offense has a little more of a 55 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: quick rhythm um feel to it, so it's a lot 56 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: more quick game things that are kind of catch it, 57 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: get it out, and allow him to kind of eat 58 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: up those yards when people are backing up. And then 59 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: he has improved when it comes to his deep ball accuracy. 60 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: Here's what I will say about him. When it comes 61 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: to throwing the deep ball. It is easy for him. 62 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: It's so easy for him that sometimes he may take 63 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: a little steam off the ball and sometimes it's underthrown 64 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: but there's no doubt that he can make the defense 65 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: defend every area of the field. And with Stefan Diggs 66 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: coming over, uh fon Diggs and John Brown, they are 67 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: now able to really push the ball down the field. 68 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: And then the final point I'll make about Josh Allen 69 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: um he has really leaned into the running ability to 70 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: running part of his game, and that's something that I 71 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: don't think we necessarily saw a want ooming. We saw 72 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: him scramble and run around, but they have utilized him 73 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: as a runner and he has embraced it and those things. 74 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: And when he was drafted or win uh we connected 75 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: Buffalo to Josh Allen, I said that I felt like 76 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills were getting Cam Newton light meaning a 77 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: talented athletic playmaker who had a big arm, and they 78 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: would figure out a way to kind of put things 79 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: around him to succeed. And I think through three years, 80 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: we're now seeing that fully bake out and that is 81 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: why he's playing at a high level, even an m 82 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: v P level. Based on the success of the Buffalo 83 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: Bills are bad. Yeah, I said yesterday. To me, it 84 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: was a combination of he's always had the talent right 85 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: with the size of the arm, strength, athletic ability, those 86 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: kind of baseline traits that you want had all at 87 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: But I think now the two other teams, So if 88 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: you have the talent, I thought, we're seeing now some 89 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: touch what you mentioned, he's throwing with more touch. Not 90 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: everything is a fastball. He's showing he can layer the football, 91 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: which is a great sign. But more than anything else, 92 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: I think it's just trust. You know a lot of 93 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: big arm throwers, Um, they aren't anticipation throwers. They never 94 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: had to be, not since they were in high school, 95 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: didn't have to be in college. In the NFL, I 96 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: don't care how big your arm is, there's still moments 97 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: where you you've got to throw with anticipation. And I 98 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: think there's a There was a throw in the middle 99 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: of the field of Stefon Diggs in that game where 100 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: the ball was out before he got he turned his 101 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: head around, and I'm like, Okay, that's new. I haven't 102 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: seen that much from Josh Allen. That shows me some 103 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: growth there, And I think a lot of it has 104 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: to do with your trusting the guys that you have 105 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: around you that we both see the same things. Um, 106 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: that I trust where you're gonna be when you're supposed 107 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: to be there, and and to me, that's a big 108 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: part of it. So when you've got tight ends and 109 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: you've got receivers that you truly trust, Um, I think 110 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: that's helped lead to a big improvement in the anticipation 111 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: there from Josh Allen. Yeah, I mean, I think it's 112 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: a significant improvement. And I think this team it's really built. 113 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: It was weird how they lost their way a little 114 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: bit against the Rams, but this team is is perfectly 115 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: designed for him to have success. Um the running back 116 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: in the backfield, Devon Sectary is fantastic Um in space, 117 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: he makes people mens. They've done a really good job 118 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: surrounding him with three receivers that have different skills, but 119 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: it really works. Cole Beasley does the dirty work over 120 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: the middle. Stefan Diggs is an unquestioned number one receiver, 121 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: and then John Brown is the vertical threat, and each 122 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: of those guys has the ability to make plays with 123 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: their arm. Offensive line is solid, and then the defense 124 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: has been a very very solid unit Um, you know, 125 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: for most of his time there, and so he has 126 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: been in and able to like just kind of grow 127 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: in front of us, and I think the big thing 128 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: would be um and we're gonna talk about Lamar Jackson 129 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: and Pat Mahomes and the shootouts. The big thing will 130 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: be how does Josh Allen perform when it is a 131 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: shootout versus another top notch quarterback because a lot of 132 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: times those games come down to quarterback play. Can he 133 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: outplay in elite quarterback in a shootout that takes place 134 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: down the stretch or in the postseason. It's gonna lead 135 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: us right into the conversation about the game last night, 136 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: because when I look at the play style, I know 137 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: that it's it's a little bit different, but the overall 138 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: philosophy I think with the Ravens and the Bills, and 139 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of funny because the Ravens where I 140 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: came from, and the Bills, who are of all the 141 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: Carolina Panther guys that you worked with, so we both 142 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: can kind of speak to this, and the good teams 143 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: you had in Carolina, the good teams that I was 144 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: around in Baltimore. The way I wrote down their their 145 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: philosophy is big play bullies. So it's bullyball. It's that 146 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: physical mentality of bullies. But you now you add the 147 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: big plays um to go along with that, and we're 148 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: seeing that in Buffalo when the Ravens are going, well, 149 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. They're beating you up, beating you up, 150 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: and then big plays. So that to me is like that, 151 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: that's kind of that philosophy of football. I'm gonna coin 152 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: there is big play bullyball. That's kind of what you 153 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: see from most teams. Yeah know, it's it's funny that 154 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: you say that, but you know, and as we get 155 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: into it, I think the thing for Buffalo and everybody 156 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: else's you have to understand that that is your identity, 157 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: and your identity can't change. Now, there's a narrow path 158 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: to victory when you kind of play that way because 159 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: it is predicated on your ability to bully the other 160 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: team at the point of attack with the running game 161 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: and control it. And you need the game to be 162 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: at a certain point, meaning you have to stay in 163 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: range to continue to be able to play like that. 164 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: When you get out of range, it forces you to 165 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: abandon that and that is when these last night night Yeah, 166 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: these style quarterbacks, they don't play their best when they're 167 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: having to do it all of the time. And so 168 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: it's one of those things that we all have to 169 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: watch and be mindful of when we get into these 170 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: big games. And that's why I'm really fascinated by the 171 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and the New England Patriots because everyone is 172 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: talking about the Bills being the team in the FC East, 173 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: and those games will come down to Josh Allen playing 174 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: against Cam Newton. Which quarterback is going to be at 175 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: his best on those days. Um can't wait see how 176 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: they plays that. I know you ran the hundred, but 177 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: what other races did you run in track? I ran 178 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: the hundred into two hundred and you know a lot 179 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: of four of our one relays stuff like that, because 180 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like the race to like 181 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: the four hundred to me maybe, yeah, so this is 182 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: but you see when you watch them. When you watch 183 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: those races though, there's the two different styles, right. Some 184 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: guys will just try and blow your doors off at 185 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: the front and cruise to the finish line, and then 186 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: other guys kind of save their kick and then they'll 187 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: be able to to finish and past guys coming down 188 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: the home stretch. I almost think like these offenses that 189 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: we're talking about in Buffalo and in Baltimore, like they 190 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: gotta get out to the they gotta get out to 191 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: the lead man. They've got to sprint around that first 192 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: turn and then they can kind of cruise and glide 193 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: down down the finish. But if if somebody gets out 194 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: on them, I don't like, I don't like where their 195 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: position to come back, you know, like and also like 196 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: the thing about that is, can you stick to the plan? Um? 197 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: Can you stick to the plane when you are a 198 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: bullyball team and you do fall ten points, can you 199 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: still stay committed to a We're going to play our 200 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: style and eventually the game will turn where we'll get 201 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: back on track. And a lot of that is having 202 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: the blind faith in your defense to the defense they're 203 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: going to get enough stops where we can continue to 204 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: stubbornly stick with this bullyball, big play style. When you 205 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: lose confidence in your defense being able to get stops, 206 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: then you begin to lose yourself and start throwing the 207 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: ball all over the yard without play action. You just 208 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: kind of in a drop back contest. And that's not 209 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: the contest that either one of these guys, Lamar Jackson, 210 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: Josh Allen in a handful of other quarterbacks. They don't 211 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: want to be in the oh they must throw and 212 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: they must throw off drop back type game. Yeah, and 213 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: I can already hear the Buffalo Bills. We just came 214 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: back and beat the Rams. And now look, you were 215 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: leading that whole game, then you had to come back 216 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: and chase one score. We're talking about being down, find 217 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: yourself down ten, fourteen, seventeen, you know, and early in 218 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: the game different. And I know because this is going 219 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: to be misconstrued, like on the thing I want to 220 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: clear league state, Josh Allen is playing at an m 221 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: v P level. The stuff that he's doing is absolutely fantastic. 222 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills are averaging more points than they've ever 223 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: averaged enfranchise history, and they're saying that's saying a lot 224 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: from the k Gun era when Jim Kelly led them 225 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: the four consecutive Super Bowls. The thing that we're trying 226 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: to do is long term, when we think about the 227 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: best teams in the a f C and it comes 228 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: down to the quarterback, is this team constructed to play 229 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: from behind? Because the best teams, like we saw it 230 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: the Kann City Chiefs, they are a picture with a 231 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: bunch of different pitches in the repertoire. They can play fast, 232 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: they can play slow. They can grind it if they 233 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: need to with the running backs. They can play up 234 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: tempo and really get you behind. But going after the 235 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: big players and so that gives them more opportunities or 236 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: different ways to win. And I mean everybody else. When 237 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: we really look at a f C, they kind of 238 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: have to play one style and if they get off 239 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: the track, it's hard for them to kind of switch 240 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: fees and play another style. Yeah, you know, it is interesting. 241 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: And watching that game last night, I was reminded and 242 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: doing the study for the Chiefs as you get ready 243 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: to play the Chargers, doing those Charger games. I looked 244 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: at him like, you can't blitz Patrick Mahomes, like it 245 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: doesn't work. He sees it and he's got too many options. 246 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: They don't keep guys in, they get guys out, and 247 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: he knows where all the answers are. So it just 248 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: don't do it. You've got to be the formula is there. 249 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: You've got to rush for, you've got to keep the 250 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: ball in front of you. You've got a rally and tackle, 251 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: play great red zone defense. And I thought the Ravens 252 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: last night was kind of a commitment to look this 253 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: is what we do. We're gonna be exotic. We're gonna 254 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: throw all these blitzes at you, and it's like that 255 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: doesn't work. He eats those blitzes up and he ate 256 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: him up. Last night, it was just it was stealing 257 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: for him when they sent pressure and he welcomes it. 258 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: He's daring you to do it. Come on, bring some 259 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: more guys, leave, leave yourself naked in the back end 260 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: and see what happens. Yeah, that's that's the thing. And 261 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: I think you really hit on something. Obviously, you see 262 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: it because the charges that played the chiefs better than 263 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: anybody else, and what the chargers have done it, I 264 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: believe the charges due is. Look, man, you can have 265 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: all that you want from twenty to twenty. You can 266 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: have all those little nickel and dime, But when it 267 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: gets to the twenty and the field becomes a thirty 268 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: yard field, this is when we tighten up in the 269 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: windows shrink and we're going to force you to take 270 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: the check down and see if you're discipline enough to 271 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: continue to take the checkdowns. And if we can get threes, 272 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: we can force you to take threes while we get sevens, 273 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: we're going to win. And I think that is the game. 274 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,239 Speaker 1: You can have all that you want. From twenty to twenty, 275 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: we're going to focus on keeping the ball in front 276 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: and really bogging down and dominating you with the umbrella 277 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: coverage in the red zone and make Pat Mahomes throwing 278 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: the tight windows in the red zone. He has been phenomenal. 279 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: But that is the best course of action to take 280 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: against a quarterback that, like I know, everyone is ready 281 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: to hand. Russell Wilson m v P hold off Man 282 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: number fifteen has a lot to say about that. And 283 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: the thing that I give him the most credit for 284 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: is that he found again I talked about great quarterbacks 285 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: find answers. You present them with problems. The rate ones 286 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: provide answers and when you do want to rush for 287 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: and play coverage one of the things he gets frustrated 288 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: a little bit early on, and then this little switch 289 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: goes off in his mind goes, oh, yeah, I got these, 290 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: I got these two legs. I can go ahead, and 291 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: I can go ahead and use those a little bit. 292 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: And then and you see big third down conversions with 293 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: his legs. I've seen it a bunch. I saw a 294 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: bunch against Charter, saw it last night once where he 295 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: took off and took those free yards with his legs. 296 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: So he's still gonna again. You're gonna he's gonna get 297 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: first downs. You can't be obsessed with first downs. Give 298 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: up first downs all day long. You just can't give 299 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: up touchdowns. You gotta limit that. And if you're keeping 300 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: that team, if you can keep that team under twenty 301 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: eight points, it's on your offense to go out there, 302 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: um and get the job done. But I've to me 303 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: that's the goal with the Chiefs when you play them 304 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: seven a quarter, If you can keep them to seven 305 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: a quarter, that gets you to twenty eight and you 306 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: need your offense to go out there and score one 307 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: more than to win a game. And last night the 308 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: Ravens couldn't do that. No, they couldn't do it. And 309 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: here's the thing about like the Chiefs, because I still 310 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: believe the Chiefs are very vulnerable against the run. The 311 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: problem is you have to be able to stay close 312 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: use enough with your defense to allow you to kind 313 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: of pound on them with the running game. Uh. I mean, 314 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: we we saw that. Now it didn't work out for 315 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans and other teams, but Tennessee Titans in 316 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, being able to run the football 317 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: and kind of muscle and slow the game down and 318 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: do so some of those things, but they couldn't get stops. 319 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: That was the problem. That couldn't get stops. On the 320 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: other side, could you can't. You can't get stops, And eventually, man, 321 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: you have you give it back to them and they go. 322 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say this, and I know the comparison 323 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: has been made, but really, when you look at the Chiefs, 324 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: they are very similar to Steph Curry and the Golden 325 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: State Warriors, with Patrick Mahomes playing the role of Steph Curry. 326 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: The energy from that team comes from Pat Mahomes making 327 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: a big play. It is very similar to when Steph 328 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: Curry would hit a big three point shot and if 329 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: he hits him in succession, away they go. And so 330 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs, man, they live off the big play. 331 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: So the way that you take that away, man, take 332 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: the three away, make them drive to the cup, make 333 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: them run the ball, make Pat maho Holmes run it, 334 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: make Andy Reid be okay. Given the ball off the clad, 335 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: it was a large and Pat Mahomes scrambling. So if 336 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: we talk about a rush four drop seven, rush three, 337 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: drop eight. I think you have to live in that 338 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: world because you can't. You can't out big play the 339 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. You have to make them nickel and dime. 340 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: You just have to hope that is a day that 341 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes is off and he may give you one 342 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: or two because he gets frustrated trying to force the 343 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: ball in the coverage. Yep. And one of the other 344 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: things I love about that Chief's offense is sometimes you 345 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: look at um, you know you've you've got receiver routes, 346 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: tight end routes, running back routes. Not with the Chiefs. 347 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: The whole world is open to all of them. When 348 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: you've got running when you've got I mean, think about that, 349 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: like as as a linebacker preparing for a game, and 350 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I've got to worry about the swing, 351 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: the flat and and the angle route, the little Texas route, 352 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: Like I got three routes I gotta work on. Maybe 353 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: they'll run one wheel every four weeks. Right with the Chiefs, 354 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: I gotta worry about him lying running slants, goes, double 355 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: moved corners. I mean, I gotta you have to defend 356 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: so much more, and so to me, it just opens 357 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: It just opens everything up. It doesn't And what's great 358 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: about them? And I was listening to the New England 359 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: page Bill Belichick at his press conference today and he 360 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: was talking about the Chiefs and he was like, they 361 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: have core concepts. Uh, they have five that they like 362 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: to get out. You always referred to like five out 363 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: in the route. And he said, the thing about it 364 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: is not about them necessarily playing matchups or oh they 365 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: feed Kelsey or they feed here. He's like the concepts, 366 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: the concepts of what they change up the concepts. Uh, 367 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: they change up the people in the concepts. But it's 368 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: the same routes. But one week you could be Tyreek 369 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: Hill lined up at wide receiver three running the deep 370 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: over the next time it could be Travis Kelsey lined 371 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: up at number three out of regular trips look like 372 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill on the back side. They run the same 373 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: place over and over. They just change who was a 374 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: lined in different spots. And it, I mean, it boggles 375 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: your mind because if I'm playing man now, I'm in 376 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: an unfamiliar situation because I'm a linebacker playing Travis kel 377 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: See all the way out wide. If I'm in zone now, 378 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: I have all of these open voids, and I got 379 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and Sammy Watkins and miko' harmon running free 380 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: in these zones. I go man to man. They go 381 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: to their shallow cross game, and these guys are flying 382 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: across the field like road runners and you just can't 383 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: keep up. It is really the perfect video game offense, 384 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: and these are you've seen it. The best team to 385 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: slow them down has been the Charges being able to 386 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: keep them in front. But then some of that I wonder, 387 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: like this was a big game on a big stage, 388 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: a Monday night game. I think their antenna's were up 389 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: to kind of let everybody know, like, yeah, we're still 390 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: the champs. Yeah, oh they did. And when we flip 391 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: it over and we go to Baltimore, um, you know 392 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: if they you know, Nabile put the stat on here 393 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: where the Lamar's over the largest deficities ever overcome was eight. 394 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: But I don't know that that's fair because they're not 395 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: ever down. I mean, outside of the Chiefs, they blow 396 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: the doors off just about everybody else they play since 397 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has been there, So I don't I don't 398 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: read as much into that, but I will say the 399 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: different it's in this game is if you turn up 400 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: the temperature and heat up Patrick Mahomes, that's that's a 401 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: that's a death wish when you heat up the temperature 402 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: on Lamar Jackson. I've seen Lamar have some success at times, 403 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: but I've also teams get to him, seen teams get 404 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: to him, and I thought, I think Greasy might have 405 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: said it on the broadcast last night, but it was 406 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: evident when pressure, when pressure is on Mahomes, his eyes 407 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: never dropped. When Lamar gets under pressure, he not only 408 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: does he look to escape and to run, but his 409 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: his head just drops, his eyes drop and he loses vision. 410 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: That to me was one of the main differences in 411 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: that game last night is he didn't have that He 412 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: did not take advantage of some of the pressure looks 413 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: that he saw, where Patrick Mahomes took advantage of every 414 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: single one. You know, I think it's a huge issue, 415 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: and I think it's a huge issue with Lamar, and 416 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: I think, um, these two guys have to be mentioned 417 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: in the same breath, but we have to do the 418 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: conversation differently. Greg Roman and Lamar Jackson are are tied 419 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: at the hip because his play caller and playmaker, and 420 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: so they have to work together to make sure that 421 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: the offense runs. We're gonna focus on the playmaker first, 422 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: into play call after that. So with Lamar Jackson, one 423 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: of things that we saw going all the way back 424 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: to Louisville is he is a guy that does his 425 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: best work when it comes to throwing inside the numbers. 426 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: He is a guy that is better throwing things that 427 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: kind of cross his face inside the numbers, working on 428 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: in breaking routes, slants, digs, seems post those are his 429 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: best throws. Those are the four throws that if we 430 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: did the heat map on what Lamar Jackson does really well, 431 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: and are all those in breaking things things that he's 432 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: not great at. He's not great pushing the ball to 433 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: the boundary outside the numbers, so you're deep comebacks, you're 434 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: deep outs, things that are thrown along. But even goes 435 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: he had to under throw last night. Yeah, those are 436 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: are not the thing. And so what good teams do 437 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: as you put more stuff on tape, they begin to 438 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: defend you to take away those things. So hey, let's 439 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: jam the middle to field. So if we're playing man covers, 440 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: let's drop alert defender right in the middle to take 441 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: away all those things and to cloud those lanes, or 442 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: if we're playing zone, let's play more of a a 443 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: three deep zone to take everything inside a way and 444 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: force you to to make those reads that push the 445 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: ball towards the boundary. Just a bunch of different ways 446 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: that you can do it. The thing that the Kansas 447 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: City Chiefs also do is they come at you. And 448 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: I would give SPACs a ton of credit because they 449 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: went zero, like four plays in a row last night. Yeah, 450 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: he's the kind of play caller that's very confusing to 451 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: play against because he'll throw all kinds of cover zero 452 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: hit its zone, blitz pressures man blitz pressures, true traditional zone, 453 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: and then they'll do some bracket coverage. That's a lot 454 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: for young quarterback to process and because they know and 455 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: in DJ be like, if you and I are playing together, 456 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: if I know that on offense that you're going to 457 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: give me thirty points, well now I can I can 458 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: be like, hey man, we gave up one, but I 459 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 1: know my offense will get it back. That frees you 460 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: as a defensive play caller to really just go after 461 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: because the head coaches like, hey, we give up one, 462 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: that's fine, but let's be crazy. The aggressive going after 463 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, and they were because they know their 464 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: their offense can score thirty points on anybody. That changes 465 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: your mentality when you're playing defense with the lead. Also 466 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: knowing that I got thirty points in the bank, I 467 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: just said this image in my mind. Remember do you 468 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: have do you go to like Chucky Cheese when you're 469 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: a kid. Yeah, you know where that had the little 470 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: games in there. Remember whack the mole with a little 471 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: mole pep. That to me is Patrick Mahomes versus the blitz. 472 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: So Patrick Mahomes versus a blitch you don't know where 473 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: it's coming from. It pops up boom boom boom. That 474 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: he gets every single one of them is he would 475 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: have been awesome and whack the mole like you can 476 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: be coming off the boundary, you can be coming from 477 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: depth sending said overload blitzesa this he'd be. He'd be 478 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: the best whack a mole player of all time. Yeah, 479 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: because that is it, because he has all the answers 480 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: and the defense that the Ravens play is a bit 481 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: like that. Because, uh, for those who didn't understand what 482 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: they were talking about on the broadcast, they talked about 483 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: pressure and then simulated pressure. Simulated pressure is a four 484 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: man rush, seven guys dropping. But the reason it's called 485 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: simulated is because it looks like it may be a blitz, 486 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: meaning they may have three defenders down or multiple guys 487 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: standing up and they're all hovering around the ball. And 488 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: when it is the pre snap part of it, it 489 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: looks like there could be five or six guys coming. 490 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 1: Post snap, only four guys come, and sometimes it may 491 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: be a safety they drop out a defensive lineman, and 492 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: so it looks like a zone bliss, but really it's 493 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: just a regular traditional zone. Well the thing about that 494 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: like it. It's great in theory, but if your quarterback 495 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: has a handle on what you're doing, he finds the 496 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: open windows. And what we're seeing from Pat Mahomes is 497 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: you talked about Wacamo. He was like, Okay, DeShane Ellett, 498 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: you're coming cool, I'm gonna go here. He for whatever reason, 499 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: somehow he's been able to really figure that out. And 500 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: I think what a lot of us missed in the 501 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: evaluation when he was coming out, We just didn't know 502 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: what that that i q Q was in terms into 503 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: your weariness and yeah, because it was I mean four wise, 504 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: it was three bout one, two by two and empty. 505 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: They didn't do traditional stuff, and so you're like, well, 506 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: how much does he know? How much he's going to 507 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: be able to process now? When he came in and 508 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: visited and we were able to talk to him and 509 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: we got a sense of his recall and his awareness 510 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: and his ability to pull back these plays and vividly 511 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: describe what he saw. That's when the light was like, 512 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: because that's stuff that you can't gleam off tape. Like. 513 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: The conversation was I open, and I think we're seeing 514 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: that play out back to Lamar though, um I think 515 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: some of the concern with Lamar even when it was 516 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: coming out of Louisville, was he's such a talented athlete 517 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: and playmaker that he's never necessarily had to be tied 518 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: to the pocket and maybe mastered those skills to being 519 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: a surgeon from the pocket. And to this credit, the 520 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens have never consistently been in a position where 521 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: they've had to put him in that they're always dictate 522 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: in the term. So I saw the stat where we 523 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: talked about then a O and nine after halftime, but 524 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: they also have been up at halftime in twenty two 525 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: of his twenty four starts. I think that. I think 526 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 1: that number, by the way, the nine number, which got 527 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: circulated a bunch of some Joe Flacco. So it's not 528 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: that's just since Flacco started a bunch of those games. Yeah, 529 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: So like he's always played from a hit, and so 530 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: that's that's the thing. And how do you work on 531 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: playing from behind when you never behind? I think they 532 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: have to always play from ahead. Then this gets me 533 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: the Greg Roman. I think this shows up. It showed 534 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: up last year, and I think it continues to show 535 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: up in some of these bigger games. I think what 536 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: happens in these big games because they happened in Tennessee, 537 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: they tend to deviate away from who they saw it 538 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: against the charges of the playoffs two years ago. Every time, 539 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: every time they drop back buck every time, every time 540 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: Lamar is not involved in some type of mesh action, 541 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: you're up in the like exhale, you go man, thank goodness, Okay, 542 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna drop back and throw it. Yeah, they get 543 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: away from they get away from the style that really 544 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: makes them a fear team. They are feared because of 545 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson being a dynamic runner, the way they incorporate 546 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: two and three tight ends into the mix, the read 547 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: option game, and their ability to throw play action passes 548 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: deep down the field. That is what it really makes 549 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: the Ravens a feared unit. The more that they go 550 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: what I call spread tacks with three or four wide 551 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: receivers on the field, the more I believe they play 552 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: into the hands of the opposition. I believe they need 553 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: to continue to play, as you said, like bullyball, with 554 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: big plays. They just have to stick to it. Because 555 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: the game when they were running the ball, even in 556 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: the third quarter, the game came back to them. They 557 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: were having an opportunity and they needed a defensive stock, 558 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: but the game came back to them. They have to 559 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: just continue to be mindful of who they are and 560 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: stick to their identity. Yeah, I mean, I I think 561 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: they could beat a bunch of teams in this league 562 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: throwing the ball ten times. I really do. I think 563 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: they'd win a ton of games just because they're running 564 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 1: was so difficult. And then and then because of the 565 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: of the volume of running you would do, you'd be 566 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: you'd have ten completions for freaking you know, two fifty 567 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: yards because all those completions would be Hollywood Brown on 568 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: top of coverage with huge, huge plays. Um. But and 569 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: I do want to acknowledge that we talked about lamar 570 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: struggles outside the numbers coming out of Louisville. He's gotten better. 571 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: He's gotten better in those areas. He got better last year. 572 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: I think he was better earlier this year. There's something 573 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: he's really worked on. But in in that game last night, 574 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: you saw some of those issues kind of uh rear 575 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: their head a little bit. Just not being able to 576 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: accurately drive the ball outside the numbers showed up. Yeah, 577 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: it shows up, and it's one of those things they 578 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: have to continue to dress. But I don't think there's 579 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: a cause for panic or concern in Baltimore. I mean, 580 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: I know they made this out to be a big game, 581 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: and I know they really wanted to show off on 582 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: the national stage. It didn't work out. Um, styles make fights, 583 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: and this isn't. The matchup is just bad. Like years ago, 584 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Stellers didn't necessarily match up well with the 585 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: New England Pages for whatever reason, their styles of play 586 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: just didn't line and so it makes it challenge. I 587 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: think they have to continue to work on a plan 588 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: that will eventually enable them to beat the Kann City Chiefs. 589 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: But you're right, DJ, they're going to be one of 590 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: those teams that could and should be one of the 591 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: last one standing in the tournament. They have to resolve 592 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: their way or the approach that they take with the 593 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: Kann City Chiefs, because right now, I went three against 594 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the last couple of years. They have 595 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: to find a way to kind of close the gap 596 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: on them, because I tweeted out, this looks like a 597 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: fight between a heavyweight in the middleway like the kN 598 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: City Chiefs just whenever they want to, they know they 599 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: can score, they know they can attack, and they go 600 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: into attack mode. I don't know if Baltimore has the 601 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: same confidence. All right, but let's let's change this topic 602 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: here for a second, because I heard this quote um 603 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: on the Huddle and Flow podcast with Whites and Trotter 604 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: from Larry Fitzgerald about playing without fans and how unique 605 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: that is, and uh, well, let's just listen to the 606 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: bite and we'll react to it. That's that's part of 607 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: the game. That's what I missed this year with this 608 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: whole COVID thing. That's just you're going to a state. Man, 609 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: it's so much easier playing now right now, Jill, really, Oh, 610 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: it's so much. It's so I would say the better 611 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: team most likely is gonna when the home field advantage 612 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: means nothing. You know, you go playing. I mean it's 613 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: no different from like I can go here and playing 614 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: this park, or I'd cause the street and play in 615 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: the park here. I mean, there's there's no there's nothing 616 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: that's different about it. You know, no styling count. You know, 617 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: if there's miscommunication, you literally can the coach can just 618 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: yell it out to you on the field. I mean, 619 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: it's like it's it's it's crazy. I mean the speed 620 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: of the game is still the same, but in terms 621 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: of this communicating, the pressure is nowhere near as high 622 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: as it as it would be with the crowd. You know, 623 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: there's not as many eyes, aren't you. So I think 624 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: it's way easier for younger players to go out and 625 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: play now, you know. So it's it's a it's a 626 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: lot different. Is the energy level it's high? Oh what 627 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: you once you're playing, there's nothing different, there's nothing, there's 628 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: nothing different. But you know, if you're one of those 629 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: guys who has to you know, get your energy from 630 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, external factors, the crowd, the noise, that stuff. 631 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: It could be tough to get up. But you know, 632 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: if you're if you're just intrinsicly motivated and it's love 633 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: to compete, it's it's no different than it has ever been. 634 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: There you go, Buck, what are your thoughts on that one? Man? 635 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot to it. DJ. I mean 636 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: you've been, you've been in sen You're in the stadium, 637 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: like it's different. It's a it's an empty stadium, and 638 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: so it does leve al out the playing field. I 639 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: would say it becomes almost like those competitive practices that 640 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: you have where there's a joint practice against another team, 641 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: or even those competitive team periods that you have UM 642 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: team on team once versus ones. Internally, UM, I think 643 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: if you're ready to go, you can get ready to play. 644 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: But man, the communication, being able to talk, being able 645 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: to say everything, Yeah, you've you've naturally eliminated a lot 646 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: of what home field advantage brings to you. And we 647 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: saw it play out Sunday night with the New Orleans 648 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: Saints and the Green Bay Packers. We all know how 649 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: loud it is down in that dome. And how the 650 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: dome gives the defense an advantage because now the Green 651 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: Bay Packers Aaron Rodgers, they have to deal with silent counts. 652 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: The hard account is not as effective because you can't 653 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: as drowned out. And so your defense now is playing 654 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: knowing that they're primarily going to go on first sound 655 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: or on one. So now your pass rushers are in 656 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: these catlike stances coming off the ball. All of that 657 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: stuff kind of adds to it. And then the pressure 658 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: when Larry Fitzgerald talks about the pressure, there's a lot 659 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: of pressure to playing on the road, the noise when 660 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: you give up big plays, the young guys feeling and 661 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: sensing those moments. Yeah, it's different. So now you take 662 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: all of that out and then you just can kind 663 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: of get into the moment and go play. I think 664 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: it is one where the better team should win because 665 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: you don't have the external factors that really impact the 666 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: game each and every week. There was a player, Gosh, 667 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: I can't I think his name was Larry Brackens, but 668 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: maybe that's not right, but I think it was Larry 669 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: Brackens as a receiver that was coming out. This is 670 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, and uh, but he had played at 671 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: a junior college, so I think he had been like 672 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: a big school recruit. Something happened. He ended up at 673 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: the junior college and he was entering the draft after 674 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: having been at the junior college. He was three years 675 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: removed from high school. Suit is eligible. So I remember 676 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: going back and and and studying him for the draft, 677 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: and you always is you always keep an eye on 678 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: where guys line up. So I'm like, well, he always 679 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: lines up on the right side in in in the UH, 680 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: in the first and third quarters, and then the second 681 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: and fourth quarters, he's on the left side. And I 682 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: couldn't And finally you do are your homework? You figured 683 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: it out? I was like, no, no, well he don't 684 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: know if he hadn't been there long enough or if 685 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: he just had struggles learning. But they lined him up 686 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: next to their home sideline every game. If you were 687 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: if if we're going this way, he was on the 688 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: right side, going that way, he's on the left side. 689 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: Because the coach would literally just lean out to the field, LB, 690 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: you got you got this, just tell him what he's 691 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: got to do every single play. And I'm like, oh 692 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: my gosh, you can do that in the NFL, right 693 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: now with no fans, so DJ I've done that coaching, 694 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: coaching deep defensive backs in particularly, we always would have 695 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: the young guy aligned on this side, closest to the 696 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: sideline because play by play you always can tell the corner, Hey, 697 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: here's what we in, here's what we're looking for. And 698 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: so he never goes, he always stays. He always stays 699 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: near you so you can talk to him. So look, 700 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised to hear that, but I wouldn't be 701 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: surprised to see teams do that with their young players. 702 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: They keep them close by so now you can kind 703 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: of walk them through it, particularly if they have the 704 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: footwork and stuff to be able to do it, Like 705 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: why why not? This is the advantage that you can 706 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: take from that, even as you said, Larry said, you 707 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: have miscommunication, being able to call it out and playing fast, 708 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: calling plays out, just go like, you have a chance 709 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: to do things that you've never been able to do 710 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: in the pro game because the crowd noise was always 711 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: a deterrent or a factor. When now you can play 712 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: ball and kind of coach it high school, biddy ball, 713 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: youth ball, whatever, like it is literally like coaches coaches 714 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: on the field like in Pop Warner games, like being 715 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: able to give out the instruction, So why not take 716 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: advantage of it. It It does lessen some of the pressure 717 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: on some of the young guys on the field. It's 718 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: it's just different, man. I don't know how else to 719 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: say it. I think Larry did a good job of 720 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: explaining that just different. Um. All right, Buck, I want 721 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: to get to this topic here as we're getting to 722 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: the college game here. You brought up this great point 723 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: about you know, we talked about Patrick Mahomes the success 724 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: he's having, Jared Goff, we're seeing what he's doing, Baker Mayfield, 725 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. These guys all played in the quote unquote 726 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: air raid offense, which used to be taboo for NFL scouts. 727 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: Anything to do with the air raid doesn't translate. All 728 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: those numbers are hollow. Um, Now you can't say that anymore. 729 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: And got Gardner minshows another one. I shouldn't leave him 730 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: out of the discussion. But with all these air raid 731 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks having success, what does it mean in the scouting process? Now? Oh, man, 732 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: I mean I think it. I think it really helps guys, 733 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: and it helps a guy like k J. Costello. K J. 734 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: Costello throws for six hundred plus twenty three yards against 735 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: l s U in his first game in Mike Lee's offense. 736 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: And the first thing I would do, I was like, oh, 737 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: I gotta pay attention, Like k J. Costello is lightening 738 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: them up, and I'm watching the game on this kind 739 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing our radio show, but I got it on. 740 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this dude is lightening it up. And 741 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: they only run a handful of concepts, four or five concepts, 742 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: they dress them up, they do it over and over again. 743 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: And before or we used to kind of dismiss that, 744 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: like it's it's too simplistic. You can't really get a 745 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: real quarterback to execute reads. But then when you see 746 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: the success you right off the list of names Jered Golf, 747 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: Calin Murray, uh Baker, Mayfield, government you having success. Everyone 748 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: that Lincoln Riley has touched has had success in the 749 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: college game and going on to the program. So now 750 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: you have to pay more attention to it. And then 751 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: there's a young kid at Oklahoma who didn't have his 752 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: best game, he had three turnovers, turned it over, Spencer Rattler, 753 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: who was one of the more talented quarterbacks that Oklahoma 754 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: has had, and that includes Calin Murray, Baker Mayfield and 755 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: those guys like he is in the mix in terms 756 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: of that kind of talent. And so when you're beginning 757 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: to look at these quarterbacks, before we would ignore all 758 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: those numbers, particularly from guys that would come from Texas Tech, 759 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: when Graham Harold and all those guys were just putting 760 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: up these big, extraordinary numbers. When now you pay closer 761 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: attention to him because that success is beginning to translate 762 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: to performers into the league. And so kJ Costello made 763 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: a great decision going from Stanford and Misissippi State and 764 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: lighting up the defending national champions certainly puts him on 765 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: the radar. We'll see how he continues to play the 766 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: rest of the year. I want to revisit something that 767 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: I said last year that people picked up and treated 768 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: as if it was a hot take, And I remember 769 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: I got a text from an NFL receiver's coach and 770 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: said it was it was absolutely not a hot takescent accurate. 771 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: Remember last year I said probably two thirds of the 772 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: NFL teams would trade their wide receiver corps for the 773 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: l s U or the Alabama wide receiver Corps. About oh, 774 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: this is come on, I'm like, really you want to 775 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: talk about that now? Look look look at what these 776 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: dudes are doing. Look at what these dudes are doing 777 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL right now with Justin Jefferson going for 778 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: a buck seventy five. You know Jamaar Chase, well, he's 779 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: gonna be He's an absolute monster. Um, you saw they 780 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: have Marshall down there, Terret's Marshall at L s U. 781 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: That's a pretty good threesome right there. But then I'm 782 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: forget that. Let's go to Alabama and what we've seen 783 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: from that group. When you look at at at Jalen 784 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: Waddle just to catch he made in that game the 785 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: other day's ridiculous. You've got Davonte Smith there still with him. 786 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: And we've already seen Rugs make some plays for the Raiders. 787 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,959 Speaker 1: We've seen Judy do his thing. Like those were last 788 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: year's L s U and Alabama receiving groups as good 789 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: as I've seen. Man. Now, they're super talented. And not 790 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: only were they're talented, I think the difference with them 791 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: compared to some others they could do it all in 792 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: terms of route running ability, they were on another level. Um, 793 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: they're precision, they're polished. Uh, they had all that stuff. 794 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: They could catch it, they can make plays. They were 795 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: tough enough not only his runners, but a blockers on 796 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: the end. And I think there's also a little humility 797 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: to them because that wide receiving room at both places 798 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: l s U and Alabama is so competitive that you 799 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: have to be on your game. You have to be 800 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: able to um compete and compete at a high level 801 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: each and every day. And I think it is something 802 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: that there's another receiver that we may end up talking 803 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: about that was in that Alabama room that transferred and 804 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: now is at Mississippi State, and that's the real Shavers 805 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: who's a six four twos in fifteen pound beast of 806 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 1: a player that was a five star coming out. He's 807 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: made his way to the miss cp State and he 808 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: started out at Alabama for a couple of years and 809 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: he was in there. And so look, there's just just 810 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: the rich get richer when it comes to recruiting, and 811 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: they have been able to really corner the mar market 812 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: on wide receivers because there wid receivers have not only 813 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: performed well on the collegiate level, but they've gone on 814 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: to have success in the National Football League and we 815 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: saw special years where L s U and Alabama were 816 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: able to really accumulate a ton of NFL talent, and 817 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: that talent is playing like we thought they were played 818 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 1: based on the recruiting ranking. It was fun to watch 819 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: man at Alabama just watching those games on Saturday, flipping channels. 820 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: They Alabama on a different level and everybody was playing there. 821 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: The other The other takeaway that I had is, I 822 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: know and are like Joel our buddy, Joel Klatten and 823 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: uh gosh, Danny Canal all these guys like that. Oh, 824 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: they kind of make fun of the SEC and they 825 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: talk about how it's a little bit overrated. And I 826 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: know some people are going to talk about Mike Leach 827 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,479 Speaker 1: and what he did and he took some of these, 828 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, these big twelve pack twelve type concepts to 829 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: the SEC and they throw for a billion yards and 830 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: all that. I'm just gonna tell you from the eye 831 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: test the athletes that were playing Saturday on the SEC 832 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: games versus what we've been watching from the Big twelve 833 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: in the a SEC over the last couple of weeks, 834 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: it is not close from an NFL evaluation standpoint, No, 835 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: it is. It is different. And I know Um, you're 836 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: kind of busin. I said, I don't know if you 837 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: got a chance to catch any of the Florida game. 838 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: But they got a quarterback trash. Oh yeah, the tight end. 839 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: I love Kyla Pitts. Come. Uh you made you made 840 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: a comment about him. Um, you did a first look 841 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: on my Twitter. He uh, he gets down he's a 842 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: big time player. But also there's a receiver there, TRAYLONN. Grimes, 843 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: who was maybe the top one or two wide receiver 844 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: coming out of the country. He comes from St. Thomas 845 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 1: Aquinas down there. Saw Florida went to Ohio State. Uh, 846 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: something happened to your transfers out goes back in Linds 847 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: up with Florida and you see him making plays. And 848 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: so when we talk about the SEC and why the 849 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: SEC as a hot bed is because the athletes look different, 850 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: just just different. It's just different style. It's just a 851 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: different thing. And you heard k J. Costello at the 852 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: end of the game in the interview, he said, look, man, 853 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: it just means more down here. And that's the player 854 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: coming from the pack twelve jump because of the SEC, 855 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: having his first game and the experience, and he didn't 856 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: even get a full SEC experience having to go down 857 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: to Death Valley with a million folks in the stands 858 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: and all of that other stuff, people screaming at him, 859 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: tiger bait and all that stuff, and the cow bill 860 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: is fully going. But now it's it's a different thing. 861 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: And that's why teams, and we've seen it in the draft, 862 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: they always are at the top when it comes to 863 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: the number of guys that are drafted. It's also why 864 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: typically most teams put their best scouts in that area 865 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: because there's so much talent. I mean, it is what 866 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: it is. The SEC is king and I think everyone 867 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: in the business and outside of business needs to recognize that. 868 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't envy coaches in the Pack twelve because I 869 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: looked around the SEC and I saw, gosh, I don't 870 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: know what, four quarterbacks from Southern California playing in the SEC. See, uh, 871 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 1: that's always good good luck, good luck keeping those kids here. Now, 872 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: good luck. That's always been the thing that's been lacking 873 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: in the SEC. Right in the SEC because they played 874 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: um rock'em sock'em football, NFLS, they've always had lineman. Yeah, 875 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: they've always had those guys, but they've never had the quarterback. 876 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: But now with the national recruiting that people are doing. 877 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: They're coming out of the southern California and they're taking 878 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks and they're letting them play. I mean Matt 879 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: carl the quarterback from oh mrs from California. We've seen 880 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: kJ Costello who is right there from Orange County. He's 881 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: playing J. T. Daniels should get the start. Bryce Young, 882 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean Bryce Young. We're seeing more and more of 883 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: those guys migrate to the SEC. And oh, by the way, 884 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: Clemson has one that we have to count. But yeah, 885 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: like that's where it is. Like, um, West Coast may 886 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: not produced the lineman, but they certainly have the quarterbacks, 887 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: and people are plucking those quarterbacks and they put them 888 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: with SEC programs and they're putting themselves in position to 889 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: win national championships. I don't blame the kids either. I 890 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: don't blame the kids for for leaving the area. Yet 891 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: when you go back there and see the brand of 892 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: football you can play get a chance to win a 893 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: national championship and the Pact twelve can't get in a playoff. Um, 894 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: so I don't blame those kids at all. Um, all right, 895 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 1: you can stream live local and primetime games for free 896 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: on your phone and tablet by downloading the NFL app 897 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: or the Yahoo Sports app. Buck We've encouraged everybody to 898 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: leave ratings and reviews on the Apple podcast section. We've 899 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: got some more submissions on there of the best high 900 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: school football player You've ever seen? D J. Williams. 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Anything else you want to add 918 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: before we get out of here, Buck, fantastic episode, man, 919 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: I love taking those deep dives, particularly after big games 920 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: where we can talk about two great quarterbacks and Patrick 921 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: Mahomes and the Mark Jacks. No, it's awesome, man, a 922 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 1: lot of fun. Great to have you back as well. 923 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 1: All Right, everybody that's gonna do it for us, Thank 924 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: you so much for listening. To Move the Sticks presented 925 00:42:36,680 --> 00:43:01,280 Speaker 1: by Zaxby's four