1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, and I think because they're assuming or trying 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: to make us believe that the cooling system is a 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: little more contaminated at that point from Wiles in longevity, 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: and they want a shorter cooling cycle. You know, if 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: it was me, I stayed at a five and sixty 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: and I see cars go longer down the road, which 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: is what this is all about. Cars giving little the 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: car doctor. 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: So put the old throttle body back on, if it's 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: easy enough to do, put the crank censor back in, 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: and that way we eliminate the possibility of new parts 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: that we don't know if they were good a band 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: to begin with, affecting the diagnosis. 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Aian, the 15 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: car Doctor since nineteen ninety one. This is where car 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: owners the world overturn to for their definitive opinion on 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: to pick up the phone and call in the garage doors. 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: Pr open, But I am here to take their call 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: at eighty five five hundred and now he running, Hey, hey, 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: look at this another hour of order repair. Let's uh, 22 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: let's see what we can do and solve this time, 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: because that's what we're here to solve you and everybody 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: else's problems about their cars and what's going on. So 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: let's do that. Let's let's go to the phones right away. 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: No opening monologue today. Let's go to John, New York 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: State nineteen RAM with an inspection problem. John, Welcome to 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: the car doctor. Sir, How can I help? 29 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 4: Thank you? Thank you. I can't seem to figure out 30 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 4: how to get the just onboard computer to reset itself 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 4: with the monitor catalyst and monitor O two keeps on 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 4: saying not ready. 33 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: Okay, what what sort of what? What led to this? 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: John? 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, what how'd you get to this situation? 36 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: Did it? 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: Did it get repaired? Did something get replaced or no? 38 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: Actually I just went in for an inspection and it 39 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 4: did this. I actually had the same problem. Why she 40 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 4: want went for the inspection. There was nothing in between. 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So how did it get through inspection last year? 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 4: You know, after going to the dealer and several mechanics. 43 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: I probably I did all kinds of stopping, variations of stopping, idling, driving, 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: looking up things on the internet, and it probably ran 45 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 4: across something that seemed to work last time. 46 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: Okay, what was that thing that you did last time. 47 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 4: I tried it again this time. I don't have the 48 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 4: exact thing in front of me, but it was like 49 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 4: eight minutes of driving between forty and sixty miles an hour, 50 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 4: and it was an idling time of a few minutes. 51 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 4: That it was driving it twenty miles an hour for 52 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: so many more minutes and then stopping for ten minutes. 53 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: It didn't seem to work this time. 54 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: How many miles were on this truck? John? 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 4: One hundred and three thousand? All right? 56 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: Are you the original owner? 57 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: No? I bought it about thirty five thousand. 58 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: All right. Has the problem been there since you purchased it? 59 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: Or it cropped up later on? 60 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 4: I was I didn't have the kind of about four years. 61 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 4: I didn't have the problem the first couple of years. 62 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: Okay, So when and obviously you know I'm going to ask, 63 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: but I already know the answer. There's no check engine 64 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: light on. There are no fault codes in the system, 65 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: et cetera. 66 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 4: No check engine light. Only when they you know, only 67 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 4: when they go to check it they see these codes 68 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 4: come up. 69 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: What codes come up? 70 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 4: That's the monitor kind of less not ready and monitor 71 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 4: oh two not ready? 72 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so so it's it's it's got right, So it's 73 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: got a cat an O two monitor not ready fault, 74 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: but it's got no other fault pertaining to a particular circuit, 75 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: sensor component, et cetera. 76 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: No, it doesn't seem to Okay. 77 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: So we're talking about a standard for setting a monitor here, 78 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: all right, until the vehicle tells us it's broken. It's 79 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: not saying it's broken yet. It hasn't run its self tests, 80 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: all right. And the reason the reason a modern vehicle 81 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: won't run self tests is because conditions aren't correct. What 82 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: do what do I mean by that? You ever go 83 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: to get a haircut? Yes, okay, you ever go to 84 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: get a haircut and you didn't shampoo your hair the 85 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: night before, or your hair was sticking out kind of funny, 86 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: and you gotta you just the guys like, gee, you're 87 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: not ready for a haircut today, right? Haircuts around my mind. 88 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: I've been trying to get a haircut for three days. 89 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: My barber stood busy. So you know, the truck's not ready. 90 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: It's hair is sticking out at odd angles. One of 91 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: the one of the more common things with these trucks 92 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: is coolant temp. I'm always concerned about coolant temp. Is 93 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: it at the right point and level for it to 94 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: run its monitor to go into self test. And I'm 95 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: not I'm not saying to change a thermostat. I'm just 96 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: it's always in the back of my mind when I'm looking. 97 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: When I'm looking at a vehicle like this, there's a 98 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: couple of things. Because this is a vehicle. Again, tell 99 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: me what's good. I'll tell you what. All right, I 100 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: want to take I want to take this vehicle out 101 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: for a ride. I want to look at coolant temp. 102 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: What does the computer see as coolant temp? If the 103 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: thermostat opening rate is two hundred and eight degrees and 104 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: I think it is in nineteen but I have to 105 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: double check that. But for conversation's sake, if it's two 106 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: hundred and eight degrees, and I see this truck consistently 107 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: running two oh four or two oh five or two 108 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: oh two, you know what, if it doesn't come up 109 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: to spec temperature, it's never going to run its monitor. 110 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: It's never going to trust that the information it's getting 111 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: is correct. Makes sense? Yes, okay? Now does that mean, 112 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: like I said, I want you to go out and 113 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: put a thermistad in it? No, I want somebody to 114 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: go look at vitals. I want somebody to go look 115 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: at at the particulars of this in terms of you know, 116 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: what is this truck missing? That being said, there's another 117 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: place we could go here if you can find somebody 118 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: proficient with a scan tool. Do you do you know 119 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: of or if you ever heard the term modes? 120 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 4: I do know? 121 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: All right? When you get sick, you ever get sick 122 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: and it takes you a couple of days, I'm picking 123 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: on you. I'm picking on you today, John, You ever 124 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: get sick, like on Monday you don't feel good, On 125 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: Tuesday you got a running nose, and on Wednesday you're 126 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: full blown sick. Sure you ever think about how that 127 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: happens to a vehicle? How does it know to turn 128 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: on a check engine light? Monday you go to start 129 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: it and the two censor doesn't really respond like it's 130 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: supposed to, kind of can't make up its mind. It 131 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: doesn't it may or may not turn on a fault. 132 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: And then the second day it goes and it runs 133 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: the same self tests because all the conditions were met, 134 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: and it fails it because that two censor didn't run 135 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: and cycle like it was supposed to Wednesday, the check 136 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: engine light came on. All right, we can look at 137 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: the data of self test. We can look at the 138 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: evaluation criteria in a portion of a scan tool called 139 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: Mode six. It doesn't need to be a fancy scan tool. 140 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: It's it's it's part of the Clean Air Act of 141 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six. It's in every scan tool that does 142 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: OBD two required by federal law. It's there. A lot 143 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: of guys don't use it. And what you can do 144 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: is you can go through. Now here's where a better 145 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: scan tool comes in. It comes handy because there are 146 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: certain scan tools that will show you all Mode six 147 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: data all at once. And then there are some scan tools, 148 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, just a bigger menu, a better display. And 149 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: then there are some scan tools that will show you 150 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: Mode six data one test at a time. So now 151 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: you've got to go through this one and then this 152 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: one and then this one, and you're going out of 153 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: your mind. All right, but we can go through Mode 154 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: six test data. And for example, if it says we'll 155 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: talk missfires, misfires are an easy one to explain. If 156 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: you look at a misfire test to determine if the 157 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: engine's misfiring, It will say it has to have a 158 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: minimum of zero and a maximum of sixty five, six 159 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: and eighty two. All right, that means it's the range 160 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: it can have any misfires. If it has one or 161 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: two misfires over a certain timeframe, it's setting a fault. 162 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: All right. You can go, you can go look at 163 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: MOTE six data for misfire and you will see that 164 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: if the vehicle's got ten misfires on cylinder one, but 165 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: but the criteria is twelve, it will it set a 166 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: check engine light at eleven? 167 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 4: No? Right, will it. 168 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: Set it at twelve? Yep? 169 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: Okay, right? 170 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: Making sense? Yes, So so if we went to look 171 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 1: at two, if we if we learned about two monitor criteria, 172 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: when does it run the monitor? Okay? And there'll be 173 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: a list. Cool and ten has to be that it 174 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: has to be. Engine has to be running for this long. 175 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: It has to see so much load. It has to 176 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: it can't see these other folks and so on. All right. Now, Now, 177 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: as crazy as it sounds, I'm willing to bet that 178 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: this particular Chrysler wants to run the cap monitor before 179 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: the two monitor. And I will admit to you it 180 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me how they do that, because 181 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: the way the way the engine knows if the catalytic 182 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: converter is any good is it looks at the difference 183 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: in activity, for lack of a better way to say it, 184 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: between the front O two sensor and the downstream or 185 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: after cat O two sensor, and it makes a calculated 186 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: measurement of efficiency, and it says, okay, this one's at 187 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: seventy percent. The cat passes its seventy percent or better 188 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: is the usual number, all right, So if it's at 189 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: sixty nine percent, it would still run the monitor, provided 190 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: all the conditions were met, but it would fail. 191 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 5: Right. 192 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: Does that make sense to you? 193 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: Yes? Yes. 194 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: So in other words, if cool intent had to be 195 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: two hundred and eight degrees and you had to be 196 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: you know, ten minutes on the road at fifty five 197 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: percent part fifty five miles an hour part throttle, all right, 198 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: it would say, Okay, my conditions are set, I'm going 199 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: to run the monitor. It runs the monitor, the cat 200 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: comes up at a seventy one percent efficiency rate. It 201 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: passes by one percent, but it passes, right, Okay, if 202 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: it was at sixty nine percent, it turns on the light. 203 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: If seventy is my number. At sixty nine percent, it 204 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: turns on the light right right, But but it still 205 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: runs the monitor. Okay, you can't even get it to 206 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: run the monitor. You can't get the kid to go 207 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: to school because it just doesn't want to do anything. 208 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: So we got to find out why doesn't it want 209 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: to go to school? Why doesn't it want to run 210 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: the test? Mode six will tell us that because somewhere 211 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: in mode six something is borderline failure. And that's my 212 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: point with all this. Something is something is borderline failure. 213 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: Conditions aren't being enabled correctly, and you've just you're just 214 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: missing it by a point, all right, and it's it's 215 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: it's that critical and that that realistic. Now, last thing, 216 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: all right. The way I usually run my Chrysler cap monitors, 217 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: just to make sure we're on the same page. Faster 218 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: is not better, all right. It's usually about twelve minutes 219 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: flat level road as best I can, all right. I 220 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: will set the vehicle on cruise control, warmed up all right, 221 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: from a cold start, warmed up, oh, twelve to fifteen 222 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: minutes tops on cruise control, fifty five miles an hour. Okay, 223 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: all right, now, that should do it. In my mind, 224 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: that should do it. After that, I'm looking for other problems, 225 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: all right. So if you haven't been able to do 226 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: that now, you may want to try halfway through that cycle. 227 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: If the first time doesn't work, halfway through that cycle, 228 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: pull over, put it in parks, shut it off, count 229 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: to ten, start it back up, and do repeat the 230 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: whole thing again. And that doesn't work, then go through 231 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: your mode six testing. I gotta go, all right, sir. 232 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you very much. 233 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: You let me know what happens. John, You're very welcome. 234 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car. Doctor. We'll be back 235 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: right after this. 236 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 6: You'll call it. 237 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 5: That's right. If you call and we're not live, you 238 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 5: can leave a message and we'll call you back to 239 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 5: get you on the air with Ron eight five five 240 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 5: five six zero nine nine zero zero. 241 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: Speaking of Ron here he is. 242 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: Let's go over real quick. Let's go to Frank and 243 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: the Bronx. Frank, welcome to the card doctor, sir, How can. 244 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 6: I help Okay my twenty eleven with the brakes they 245 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 6: feel spongy. Okay, break the brake pedal now, I had 246 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 6: about six months ago, I had the front brakes done. 247 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 6: He did the pads and not the cylinders, the calipers. No, 248 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 6: not the calipers, the. 249 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: Pads and rotors the road is yeah, okay. 250 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 6: Then uh about a month ago, month to month month 251 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 6: ago he had he did the back breaks because they 252 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 6: needed to be done. The cars got one hundred and 253 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 6: sixty three thousand miles on it, Okay, right, and uh, 254 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 6: it seems like the breaks when he did the front breaks. 255 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 6: I do not remember when I took it out of 256 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 6: the shop if the brakes were spongy then or not, 257 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 6: because they did stop like the brake pedal goes down 258 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 6: and then it goes down again. So I brought it 259 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 6: back to him for my oral change and tire rotation. 260 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 6: And uh and I told him about the brakes, and 261 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 6: he's had the car for a month. I just saw 262 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 6: him about a couple of hours ago, and he says 263 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 6: he's not giving up on a problem, but he can't 264 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 6: work on it, you know, continually, because he has other 265 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 6: you know, he has to make a living, right, yes, sure, 266 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 6: and uh so he says he has one more thing 267 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 6: to try, and uh, uh, you know he bled the brakes. 268 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 6: He he's got all the scanners and stuff. Okay, I 269 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:10,599 Speaker 6: believe he bled the ABS module. There's no ABS brekething 270 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 6: on the you know, light comes on on the cars. 271 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 6: Just the brakes just feel okay. 272 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: So here, let's let's let's cut to the chase. 273 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 4: Okay. 274 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: So did it feel like this or did you have 275 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: this experience before he did the original breakwork way back when. No, okay, 276 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: and you're not sure if you had the problem right 277 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: after he did the brakes. But somewhere between the time 278 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: of him replacing the front brakes and today this developed 279 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: a spongy brake pedal fair statement. Okay. So if front 280 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: breaks are assembled correctly, and I say that meaning that 281 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: the slides work, that the calipers have free motion, and 282 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: that the calipers are good okay, okay, and that the 283 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: rear brakes are operating, calipers have free motion, there's no 284 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: nothing binding, there's nothing sticking right right then, and there's 285 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: no leaks, no leaks, right, and you've done a master right, 286 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: And he's followed Ford procedure because there is a specific 287 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: bleed procedure available in any one of the information sources, 288 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: all that of Mitchell et cetera, to follow with these 289 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: all right, right, and he's done it, and he's done 290 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: an a BS bleed right using a scan tool. You're 291 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: saying all the right words to me, Frank, Yeah. 292 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's been in business over fifty years. 293 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: There's so there's there's only one thing left and that 294 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: and that's the ABS hydraulic control unit. 295 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 6: Hydraulic control unit. I'm looking at it right now, my 296 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 6: piece of paper at. 297 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 4: Him is. 298 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: And that's that's that's the only thing left. And it 299 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: is not it is not an uncommon failure based on 300 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: the age, you know, based it can also you know, 301 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: how clean was the fluid or unclean was the fluid. 302 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: But he's done all the right things. I don't find 303 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: any fault in what you're describing to me, you know, 304 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: And I bet, I bet his next step is to 305 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: put put an HCU in it. The problem is going 306 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: to be, this is a twenty eleven vehicle. Yeah, it's 307 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: fifteen years old. It's going to be trying to find one. 308 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: I don't know that Ford manufactures it anymore, and then. 309 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 6: Probably have to get one from the junk yard or whatever. 310 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: Well, Junkyard or after market. And then the problem with 311 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: the junkyard stuff is guess how old it's going to be? 312 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: Fifteen years old? But you have to try right. I've 313 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: run into this problem many a time. All right time, yep. 314 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 6: I've seen on the internet one guy said that. He 315 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 6: says he had the same problem and be course to 316 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 6: the park the parking break right, the emergency break or 317 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 6: whatever goes right to the were piston right right right right. 318 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 6: And he says if he did all this stuff, I'm 319 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 6: just saying that this was on the internet. He said 320 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 6: he did all this stuff. Bled the brakes, pressure let 321 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 6: them or whatever he said, whatever that means. He says 322 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 6: he does it old school. But he said that he 323 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 6: did all that. He took off the back the rear 324 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 6: wheels and have somebody step on the brake, hold it down, 325 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 6: cranked open the thing to get the air out the 326 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 6: bleed valve, right, okay, close it back up, and then 327 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 6: hit the parking brake thing five times. 328 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: All that's doing is ratcheting out the piston on its adjustment. Okay, 329 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: but how about how about we do this that the 330 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: system's bled, and we put the parking brake on. Does 331 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: it sit at the correct height and do both rear 332 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: wheels lock up? If both rear wheels lock up, and 333 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: that was my point about are the rear calipers correct. 334 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: If both rear wheels lock up, then the parking break 335 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: mechanism is working properly. If it's not, that has to 336 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: be addressed first before you get into an HCU unit. 337 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: So just keep that in mind. Good luck to you, Frank. 338 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: Let me know what comes of this. I'm kind of curious. Hey, 339 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: coming up next, Kyle Fischer Hotshot Secret. We've got a 340 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: great interview in store for you. Don't go anywhere. If 341 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: we ever do get to Mars and we're watching television 342 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: up there, listeners, Someday they're going to look back on 343 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: entertainment from this time period, and they're going to look 344 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: at some of the words and language that we used 345 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: in One of the words I hope they use on 346 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: Mars is stiction, because it's this addition to the English 347 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: language that makes everybody go, what the heck is stiction? 348 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 4: Well? 349 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: I was wondering that myself a few months ago, and 350 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: I what is stiction? And I found out by virtue 351 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: of repairing my ninety seven shop truck by using something 352 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: that eliminates stiction with the liftertick. For the past twenty 353 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: years that you've heard me talk about off and on, 354 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: you know, over the year here so I thought i'd 355 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: bring in an expert on the subject as well as 356 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: other things. He is Kyle Fisher. He's a director over 357 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 1: there at Hotshot Secret, and we're glad to have him 358 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: with us here today. Kyle, Welcome, Aboartzir. 359 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 5: Hey Ron, thanks for having me. Been looking forward to 360 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 5: speaking with you. 361 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: You know, before we dive into stiction, we're going to 362 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: keep everybody on the edge of their seats, you know, 363 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: hot Shot hot Shot Secret, And I love the title 364 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: is you know, powered by science, right, you guys create 365 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong, add it is and 366 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: supplements for vehicles to make them run better. But they're 367 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: researched out, and you know, some of the things you 368 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: guys come up with, they're just you know, at first 369 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: look at it and you go, gee, why didn't I 370 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: think of that sooner? You know, And you work in 371 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: specific areas diesel and gasoline engines, right, I mean they 372 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: require maintenance, but their needs different differ so but but 373 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: yet Hotshot Secret has answers for both of them. And 374 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: you're making diesel and gasoline engines run better, run longer. 375 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: Can you talk about that and some of the some 376 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: of the things that led to this. 377 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, well we first of all, thanks for 378 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 5: having me. I'm really excited to be here. And and yet, yeah, 379 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 5: as a company, we've always been focused on solving problems. 380 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 5: So there's a lot of lubricant companies out there, and 381 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 5: we kind of leave the commodity style products to the 382 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 5: big boys to mass produce, and we stay focused on 383 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 5: finding problems in the fuel and oil systems of the 384 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 5: vehicles out there and developing specific formulas to combat those problems. 385 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 5: And it's it's a space we've kind of made for 386 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 5: ourselves and we've kind of held true to that for 387 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 5: many years now. That's why the I've always found there's 388 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 5: either our people who know us and love us, or 389 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 5: they just don't know who we. 390 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: Are yet and who are these guys? 391 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 4: Right? 392 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 5: We're fortunate. We've been the fastest growing liberty company in 393 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 5: America for three years running now, so the steam's coming 394 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 5: and people are are finally hearing more about us. So 395 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 5: I appreciate you having me on. It's just another way 396 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 5: for people to learn about what we do, and we 397 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 5: love talking oil and fuel issues and it helps us 398 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 5: find new problems to create new products for too. 399 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: You know, I had a customer in the shop a 400 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: couple of weeks back. And Ken is a big diesel guy. 401 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: He's got a he's got an eighteen gmc Duramax and 402 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: he snowmobiles a lot. And he was telling me the 403 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: story about he was just leaving to go snowmobiling that weekend. 404 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: He goes up almost up to Lake Placid, New York, 405 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: which if you're from you know, you know where that is. 406 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: It's you know, if you get up in Lake Placid 407 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: and it's it's not ten below, you think the world 408 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: is broken. 409 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 4: You know. 410 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: So your diesel truck is really under extreme. And he, 411 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, he was telling me about he has problems 412 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: with it starting in cold weather, and we were talking 413 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: about it, and I just happened to get in a 414 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: new shipment of of you know, diesel Extreme and you 415 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: know some of the other things from you guys, and 416 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: and you know, I handed him a bottle. I said, here, 417 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: try this, add this to the fuel system as you go, 418 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: and you know, let me know how it is when 419 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: you get back. And you know, he took it gratefully. 420 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: He had never seen it before. As you said, right, 421 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: he said, who's hot shot secret? I said, well, it's 422 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: a secret. You know, we're trying to We're trying to, 423 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, educate you guys, you diesel owners. And you know, 424 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: he took it and I didn't hear from Ken for 425 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: a couple of days. You know, this is a Friday. 426 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: He got back Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, he got a flat. Unfortunately, 427 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: you had to bring the truck by the shop and 428 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: I said, hey, I said, you know, whatever happened? He says, oh, 429 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: I forgot to call you. He goes, the truck never 430 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: started so good, So whatever's in that bottle? Can I 431 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: get some more? And you know, the whole idea of 432 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: you can take diesel fuel and make it better is 433 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: like new to everybody, right, And is that you know, 434 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: how did you come up with some of these things 435 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: like Diesel Extreme and winter Defense? Was it you saw 436 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: a need and you created a product? 437 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 5: You know, Just like you said, we literally target the 438 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 5: problems that the systems face. So we do a lot 439 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 5: of R and D. We do a lot of work 440 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 5: in the field, you know, with with real vehicles and 441 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 5: the real world and and how these manufacturers build these 442 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 5: and then how do they start to play out as 443 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 5: they start to put miles on them? So when we're 444 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 5: looking at diesel fuel, one of the big problems is 445 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 5: just the quality of diesel fuel that we're getting from 446 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 5: the pump these days. As you know that the government's 447 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 5: mandated ultra low sulfur diesel and the process of pulling 448 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 5: that sulfur out of the diesel also robs the diesel 449 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 5: fuel of lubricity. So and of course it's the only 450 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 5: thing that is protecting and lubricating these fuel systems is 451 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 5: the fuel itself. So in the fuel waxed lubricity, you're 452 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 5: putting a big strain on your your your hyperssure pumps, 453 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 5: and you know, the diesel fuel systems under a tremendous 454 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 5: amount of pressure. So everything starts to domino effect and 455 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 5: create problems because of the poor fuel that we get. 456 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 5: And so when we hear designing a product like like 457 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 5: our Diesel Extreme for example, it has six components in it, 458 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 5: and every single drop that we put in that bottle 459 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 5: is in there for a reason. We're really proud that 460 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 5: we put no fillers in any product. So it's it's 461 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 5: everything in there is designed to do something, and we've 462 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 5: got we got six components in there. There's a cetane booster, 463 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 5: a lubristi additive, an injector, fuel system cleaner, a water demulsifier, 464 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 5: a rust inhibitor, and a fuel stabilizer. So so each 465 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 5: one of those components is either designed to treat one 466 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 5: of the shortcomings in the fuel that we're getting from 467 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 5: the pump and as well as protecting these very expensive 468 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 5: diesel fuel systems. 469 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of like mom packing you the lunch 470 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: for school. You've got everything in the You've got everything 471 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: in the jar. You know when when mom made you 472 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: that peanut butter sandwich, he packed everything in there, and 473 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: you guys have done that. So, you know, diesel fuel 474 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: is less refined than the qualities an issue. You know, 475 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: how does that? You know on a gasoline vehicle? You 476 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: know the same thing. Does gasoline vary that much? 477 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 5: There's a lot of variants in gasoline, but but not 478 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 5: it's not as bad as diesel. We do a lot 479 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 5: of fuel testing, you know, pump to pump across the street. 480 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 5: You could be spreaded some of the difference you see, 481 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 5: but just naturally scientifically, gasoline's is a finer cut, so 482 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 5: you don't deal with some of the initial issues that 483 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 5: we see in diesel that said the way that we're 484 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 5: seeing a lot of these new engines being built. As 485 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 5: you know, we're we're getting a lot more smaller engine 486 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 5: turbo charged applications, a lot of new first time turbo 487 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 5: in things are out there. You know, Turbos used to 488 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 5: be something that we're putting diesel trucks that are working 489 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 5: hard or in high performance vehicles, and now you're seeing 490 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 5: the average grocery getter vehicle, it's a small engine turbo. 491 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: They're all over the place. 492 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and and that becomes that adds another challenge to 493 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 5: the system because as we build up this stiction and 494 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 5: leftover carbon deposits in the system, uh, they need to 495 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 5: be cleaned out. And another big issue that is becoming 496 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 5: more and more an issue is the multiple displacement engines. 497 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 5: You know, where they're shutting down cylinders for efficiency gains, 498 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 5: and we've seen a lot more carbon build up in 499 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 5: these simply because you know, the cylinder shutting down, it's 500 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 5: still hot, so you start getting more coching in there 501 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,239 Speaker 5: and and a lot of fuel burn off. So it's 502 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 5: leaving a lot of these carbon deposits behind. So really 503 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 5: important nowadays to make sure that even on the gasoline side, 504 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 5: may not be something that you need to treat every 505 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 5: tank like you need to do in a diesel, but 506 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 5: you need to get in there and clean out those 507 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 5: carbon deposits as they slowly rob you of power, start 508 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 5: to infect your injectors, which can affect the spray pattern. 509 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 5: And now you're not hitting that sweet spot of the 510 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 5: piston and you're just losing a little bit of mileage 511 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 5: here and there that kind of just slips away from you. 512 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, as it ages, it just kind of gets worse. Hey, Kyle, Yeah, 513 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned stiiction a couple of times. I want to 514 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: leave the listeners hanging. Let's pull over, take a pause, 515 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: but when we come back, can you give us a 516 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: definition of stition? Because I'm sure everybody out there sitting 517 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: on the edge of their seat. So I'm run Any 518 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: in the car doctor. I'm here with Kyle Fisher, who's 519 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: a director over at hot Shot Secret Hotshotsecret dot com. 520 00:27:51,440 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: We'll both return right after this. Don't go away, So 521 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: the age old question, Hi, and welcome back listeners, Ronning 522 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: Any and the car Doctor. What is stition? We're here 523 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: with Kyle Fisher, director of Hot Shot Secret. Kyle Stiction. 524 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: What is stiction? Everybody wants to know. 525 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 5: That's a great question. In short, it's sticky friction, is 526 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 5: what we call it, and it's the leftover carbon when 527 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 5: the hydrocarbons, which your oil is a hydrocarbon, and those 528 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 5: tight tolerances and what we call the hotspots. When your 529 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 5: oil starts to burn off, you're burning off that hydro side, 530 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 5: leaving that carbon behind, and that presents problems inside the engine, 531 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: slowing down components, slowing down oil flow, and just kind 532 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 5: of transcends from there. So it's important to get that 533 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 5: stition out of the engine to make sure you're cleaning 534 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 5: the inside of your engine components. 535 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: There's a story here, right, I mean I have a story, 536 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: but I think I think you at Hotshot Secret have 537 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: a story right about stition? Was this? Was this how 538 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: the company came to be if. 539 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 5: I'm correct, Yeah, it was. Our founder was a tribologist, 540 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 5: which is basically an oil nerd that's out they're formulating stuff. 541 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 5: And Ford had just put out the six lider and 542 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 5: seven point three liter diesels which have a Huey injector. 543 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 5: In short, that's a fuel injector that uses the engines 544 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 5: oil to fire the fuel injector, right like a kind 545 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 5: of hydraulic. 546 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: It's oil pressure based, right, yep, exactly. 547 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 5: And they were having problems with these injectors coming up 548 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 5: and couldn't figure it out. And of course the whole 549 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 5: industry is throwing every fuel added a at it, trying 550 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 5: to clean the fuel injector out naturally. But trick is 551 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 5: to clean out the oil side of that fuel injector. 552 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 5: And so our founder had invented the sticction eliminator product, 553 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 5: submitted it to Ford, and they found it fixed their 554 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 5: problems nine out of ten times, saving you know, six 555 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 5: thousand dollars injectors just by cleaning out that oil side 556 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 5: of the injector and keep and those guys on the road. 557 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Well, and let's be clear, right when when we think 558 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: gasoline engines flip gears a second, A gasoline engine injector 559 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: is you know, seventy five one hundred bucks a diesel engine. 560 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: When a diesel engine needs an injector, number one, you 561 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: don't just change one, You're you're generally changing them all. 562 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: And a set of injectors for a diesel engine can 563 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: be oh, I don't know, let's be conservative, a couple. 564 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 5: Grand absolutely, you know, absolutely, So it's it's it's. 565 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: To the diesel owner's benefit to do everything you can 566 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: to help keep it clean. I tell people all the 567 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: time they want to buy a diesel, I say, you 568 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: just got to be aware. You've got it. You've got 569 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: to you know, it's it's maintenance, it's oil changes, it's 570 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: it's oil quality and its fuel quality. And those are 571 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: the keys to keeping a diesel going and making it 572 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: run longer. You know. It's so stiction stition exists in 573 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: both diesel and gasoline engines right absolutely. 574 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 5: And and you know, like we as we came up 575 00:30:55,040 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 5: as the sixtion liminars are original product targeted for those diesels. 576 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 5: As I always tell everybody, imagine if you can get 577 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 5: into that tight tolerance of the fuel injector and clean 578 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 5: it out, imagine when it's doing to the rest of 579 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 5: the engine is freely flowing through. So it's a product 580 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 5: you can use in any oil system, gas or diesel. 581 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 5: And the trick to it is that we're actually cleaning 582 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 5: out that engine safely. Rather than a harsh solvent that 583 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 5: you got to pour in that you know, smokes everything 584 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 5: out and you have to dump your oil right away. 585 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 5: This actually goes in with fresh oil because it's made 586 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 5: of group four Group five esters that are like the 587 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 5: really good stuff that we build a nice oil with, 588 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 5: and we're basically re liquefying those old hydrocarbon deposits so 589 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 5: that it just gets picked up in your oil and 590 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 5: when your oil change interval is done, you dump that 591 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 5: oil and all that nasty old carbon comes out and 592 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 5: leaves you with clean internals. 593 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: So Kyle, then let me jump the gun a little 594 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: bit real quick in our last minute and a half. Friction. 595 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: You know, why do we worry about friction in the engine. 596 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's an obvious question with an 597 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: obvious answer. But you guys have something better for friction issues, right, Yeah, we. 598 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 5: Have a patented product called FR three. It's a friction reducer. 599 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 5: It's a nanocarbon particle. So while most of the lubrican 600 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 5: industry uses molly or molebdenum as their antiwar we actually 601 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 5: use a nanocarbon particle that is heat attracted and polarized, 602 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 5: so when added to engine oil, it finds the hottest spots, 603 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 5: the tightest tolerances in anywhere that you may have in 604 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 5: the engine to fill those voids and provide a flat 605 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 5: film layer to give you that extra protection and reduce friction, 606 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 5: and we generally can reduce friction up to forty percent 607 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 5: off just standard oil by itself, or we also offer 608 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 5: engine oils that have our f R three already infused 609 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 5: into it. So at the end of the day, we're 610 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 5: just we just want to prevent these engines from wearing 611 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 5: prematurely and extending the life of them. 612 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: Wow, you guys are you guys are so on top 613 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: of the game. It's unbelievable. Listeners want more information. Where 614 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: are they going? 615 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 5: Hotshot Secret dot com and we've got an eight hunter 616 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 5: number there. We'd love to take calls and solve problems. 617 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 1: Cool beings, Kyle, It's been a pleasure, sir. We'll have 618 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: you back and you keep doing what you're doing. We 619 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:18,719 Speaker 1: appreciate you. 620 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on. 621 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: Ron You're very welcome. I'm Ronn and Any and the 622 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: car Doctor. We're back right after this. You know, the 623 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: great thing about Hot Shot Secret is their approach and 624 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, there I've just got to say, you know, 625 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: going through the interview with Kyle, what was in the 626 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: back of my mind. You know, they've taken some of 627 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: the everyday things that we take for granted and they 628 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: break them down into a finer problem, so to speak, 629 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: with a better solution. And I thought that was really interesting, 630 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: the whole concept of stiction and the way it worked 631 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: with four diesels with the oil because a Ford diesel 632 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: has an oil pressure controlled injector, and the way they 633 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: approach that problem something Ford didn't know. Right, They solved 634 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: the problem for Ford Ford Motor Company. You know, they're 635 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: the guys with the big blue oval. In case you 636 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: didn't know, they solve that problem. So how smart are 637 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: they for a bunch of engineers to outthink the manufacturer? 638 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: And that's you know, whenever you went down at the 639 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: drag strip, whenever you saw the local racer beat the 640 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: factory team, you knew he was somebody that had something 641 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: going on between his ears. Very smart guy, very smart 642 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: bunch over there at Hotshot Secret till the next time 643 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm ronning Andy and the car Doctor. Good mechanics aren't expensive, 644 00:34:53,800 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: they're priceless. See you shakes bots down the