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Speaker 1: M h welcomed. Episode three ten. The super Cool Lisa

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Speaker 1: wild story. And also Shy Carter is on. He talks

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Speaker 1: how that Charlie Poot song came together, the massive one

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Speaker 1: cool story, I'll be that same. Let's look at the

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Speaker 1: big new music releases of the week. Travis Denning has

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Speaker 1: an EP called Dirt Road Down Here is the title track,

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Speaker 1: Love This Time, How Solidays used to be in Laris

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Speaker 1: Made We Like Travis di Any, We're Travis Any Podcast

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Speaker 1: for Sure Number four. This week, Ingrid Andrews has a

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Speaker 1: new song with Sam Hunt called Wishful Drinking Thanking You

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Speaker 1: Nice mess Me, It's a dreadful time to meet you.

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Speaker 1: I JA. At number three, Luke Brian has a song

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Speaker 1: at number two you says, backgrounds Baby and head into

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Speaker 1: the middle, Little Windows down said the cross see review

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Speaker 1: You don't want more crazy Saints back Toby and number

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Speaker 1: one who I just think she's great and worked with

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Speaker 1: Lady A. She released her debut EP Here's a song

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Speaker 1: called Broken Heart. Still Beats because He's getting hot, keeps

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Speaker 1: playing the yeats thanks to and He's bapties and spoke

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. We should get her in here? Okay? Cool?

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Speaker 1: Would lay? Uh? Some other songs coming out that you've

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Allen called good Goodbye. Uh, Let's See. Scotty mccourry

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Speaker 1: has Same Truck. Cheryl Crowe put out if It makes

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Speaker 1: your kids out there. And Carly Pearce put out a

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Speaker 1: new song as well album releases. Billy Currington has a

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Speaker 1: Me to Chris Young various. Now that's what I call

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Speaker 1: decade nineteen eighties. Yeah, alright, quick news is the quick

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Speaker 1: news is Garth Brooks is reassessing the remainder of a

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Speaker 1: stadium tour because of the COVID outbreak. Country Stories, Tippy

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Speaker 1: wofle House Waiters one thousand dollars. We have discovered who

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Speaker 1: that is. That is Struggle Jennings. Shout out Struggle Jennings,

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Speaker 1: yellow Stone prequel. It's happening with Tim and Faith three.

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Speaker 1: They'll play the Duttons and then Nickelback reveal they're working

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Speaker 1: on a new album. How about that at Lisa Lope

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Speaker 1: coming up on a second. You may remember this song

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Speaker 1: stay you say fantastic, I only hear what I want

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Speaker 1: to This is Lisa Loban Nine Stories. I guess that

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Speaker 1: the first album, Here is do You Sleep because they

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Speaker 1: saw you as you walked across my room. You will

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Speaker 1: So I don't know and I don't have Here is

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Speaker 1: Here is Feel what you Feel with Craig Robinson. You

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Speaker 1: is today's podcast. Hey, we're on now with Lisa lobe

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Speaker 1: who I'm a massive fan, you know, just just so

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Speaker 1: you know at Lisa, I'm a massive fan. I love it,

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Speaker 1: I love it. We both got our glasses. Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: using a virtual background on the zoom portion of our interview.

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Speaker 1: Now you are like so distracting, and no wonder my

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Speaker 1: and you are in your zoom background, which I find

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Speaker 1: this musical that's opening um this week on Broadway and Demand,

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Speaker 1: I was like, Lisallo got one of these boxes that

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Speaker 1: And that's how it came together. They Disney knew I

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Speaker 1: so aspirational to see a picture of you with all

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Speaker 1: But people always stopped me and say that or they say, oh,

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Speaker 1: So but if I am wearing my normal glasses, someone

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Speaker 1: go straight to the website together Apart musical dot com

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Speaker 1: and you'll see where to you know, sign up in it.

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Speaker 1: You'll you'll be able to watch for you for a

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Speaker 1: few weeks and you know, it's very it's I've heard

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Speaker 1: a lot of positive reviews. It takes you a lot

431
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Speaker 1: of different places. Well, if you allow me to talk

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Speaker 1: about your music career for a second, because again I'm

433
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Speaker 1: such a big fan of your music. Are you going

434
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Speaker 1: going back out on the road right in September in

435
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: the fall? Are you excited about that or no? I'm

436
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see fans and I have been doing

437
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: a lot of live streaming shows and connected again, connecting

438
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: with people in England and all over the place. Like

439
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 1: doing these live shows, I missed performing in person. I

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00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: did an event in San Santa Fe the other day,

441
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: but it was like in an open air. It was

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Speaker 1: an indoor space. But with all these huge doors that

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00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 1: open to the outside. Um, I'm nervous with the delta variant.

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Speaker 1: I've got to say me too. We have uh now,

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00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I agree we have three music

446
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: festivals my group does, and that we're putting on festivals,

447
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: entire festivals ourselves. And I'm starting to get nervous about

448
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: it too, frankly. And these are outdoor and but you know,

449
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,479
Speaker 1: you are seeing things go back up, and so are

450
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: you kind of like I have these shows scheduled, but

451
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, I had the caveat when I

452
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Speaker 1: when I booked the shows that look, if things are

453
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Speaker 1: not looking good, we're gonna do everything to be safe. Um,

454
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of an issue and that I

455
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: look back in the nineties when I started, I was

456
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: playing concerts all through the eighties and nineties. It used

457
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Speaker 1: to be the thing. Everybody was smoking, right, and you

458
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: would go to a concert. I don't know if you

459
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Speaker 1: knew this, and you would go to a concert and

460
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: you'd come home and you're close smelt like smoke. And

461
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: when you're on stage and everybody's smoking, it's like I

462
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: used to tell the club owners in the theater people,

463
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Speaker 1: I was like look, we're not going to have any smoking.

464
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Speaker 1: You have to tell everybody it's a no smoking show

465
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Speaker 1: because I don't want to be a singer in this

466
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Speaker 1: room with a bunch of smokers. And they used to

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Speaker 1: give me a hard time and say, well we can

468
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 1: and ask the audience to do that. That's not cool,

469
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: and I said, you gotta do it. I don't want

470
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Speaker 1: to play a show you know where people are smoking.

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Speaker 1: So they would do it. But with the mask thing,

472
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: I said, look, you got to ask the audience to

473
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Speaker 1: wear masks like they're not even They're not even gonna

474
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Speaker 1: be like lower capacity or sitting far apart from each other.

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Speaker 1: It's not an outside show. These aren't outside shows. And

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Speaker 1: I've been hearing since the government or the states or

477
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Speaker 1: whatever can't mandate the masks, I can't either, So living

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Speaker 1: day to day, I'm hoping that these shows are going

479
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: to happen. I'm so excited to see my fans. I

480
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Speaker 1: love playing music. I put a record out right before COVID.

481
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Speaker 1: I've got a million songs and stories to tell, and

482
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: it's so fun to connect with the audience. Safety first,

483
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: let's see as we move forward. Uh, this is my life.

484
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Speaker 1: I want to play a clip of this can you

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Speaker 1: hear clips? Mike? Okay, let me play a clip of

486
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: this is My Life? Didn't know that sleep was that dream? Emma,

487
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: dream is heaven to me? Yeah, so this is from

488
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: your album, A simple trick to happiness. But you you

489
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Speaker 1: put it out right before the pandemic. Did you feel

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Speaker 1: like any sort of you know, any sort of you know,

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Speaker 1: uh press that you were doing, any sort of momentum

492
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: that was being built was all lost immediately in the

493
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: record kind of floated away or did you Were you

494
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 1: able to keep it going through the pandemic by by

495
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: doing stuff on social media? Yeah, it was, it was

496
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: just it was just it evolved, it changed. You know.

497
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Speaker 1: It's funny when started, I always since or earlier, my

498
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: friends and I, as a joke would make up like

499
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: a catchphrase for the year, like more than ninety four,

500
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: which meant like more drinking, and I still never did

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00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: enough drinking. So in two thousand four that came back

502
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: again more in two thousand four, um, and it was

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Speaker 1: like see you in person. Part of it was like

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Speaker 1: I'm going to see people in person, I'm gonna really

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00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: connect with people. And then you know, a few months

506
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: in it's like, well, you're actually not going to see

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Speaker 1: anyone in person, and uh, but it because we ended

508
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Speaker 1: up connecting with so many more people through Zoom then

509
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: I probably would have connected with in person maybe and

510
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: even my neighbors and like people in my own community

511
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Speaker 1: I really connected with. But um, it just changed. You know. Luckily,

512
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,239
Speaker 1: we had shot a video for every single song already, um,

513
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: so we put those up. It was just a time.

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Speaker 1: You know. In the back of my head, I think

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Speaker 1: I'd always been trying to grow my social media presence,

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00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: my connection with my fans through I didn't know about Zoom,

517
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: but you know, through through virtual concerts and stuff. So

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Speaker 1: it gave me finally an opportunity to to learn my

519
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: technology in my house a little bit better. I'm not

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Speaker 1: in my house right now, I'm in Texas, but in

521
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: my own house, I've got lights and I've got really

522
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: good WiFi, and I like, I know how to set

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Speaker 1: up at my stuff. So it became a time of

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Speaker 1: learning and connecting with people in other ways. And definitely

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00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: it's a bummer. I mean, I had gone to Japan

526
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Speaker 1: because the album always comes out first in Japan, so

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Speaker 1: I did get to go to Japan. Before covid Um,

528
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was. It was just a different times

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Speaker 1: Together Apart. I want you to check it out. It's collection,

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00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: a new short musical is written, composed, directed by, and

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Speaker 1: featuring Brown University alumni, of which Lisa is. She speed

532
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: ahead of the musical. It does premiere today August six

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00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: on Broadaway and Demand and available to watch for two

534
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: weeks on the Broadway on Demand platform. You can go

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00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: to Together Apart Musical dot com for more info Together

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00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: Apart Musical dot com. Um, well I will. I'm definitely

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00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: gonna check it out. I'm a massive fan of yours.

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00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time to you know, hang

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00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: out and tell me some stories and again, just appreciate

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00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: your time, Lisa, and good luck with the project, and

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00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: congrats on your show as well. I hope to meet

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00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: you in person one when you come through Nashville, because

543
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: that's where I am and you're doing a show and

544
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: we're able to not get covid. I will be there.

545
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: I will be there and I will be singing along

546
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: great and you'll bring some grits and I'll bring it.

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Speaker 1: You got it all right? Bye, Lisa, Hi, thank you,

548
00:27:52,960 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: take care of We're good all right in studio now

549
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: with Shy Carter, who comes in and brings the energy

550
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: every went on before we went on, he's like, who

551
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: part of I'm like, you know, wake up when we did?

552
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: We woke up three o'clock this morning and you said

553
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: you just woke up? Yes, I did. But you've been

554
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: on the road all weekend right playing Yes your watershed.

555
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: I was pretty cool up there. Huh. It was amazing.

556
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: The views incredible, man, Difficult to get to but worth

557
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: it once you're there, absolutely, man. Yeah. And how did

558
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: you and McGraw become friends? Because on Instagram I saw

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00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: a picture of you with him because I think you

560
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: did a song with him. I did, but but I've

561
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: seen you with him, And I remember talking to Tim

562
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: maybe a year and a half or so ago even,

563
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: and he was talking about you. So how did that

564
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: relationship come together? Well, it's been a long uh long

565
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: time thing. Um. Missy Gallimore she's Byron Galimore's wife, and

566
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: Byron produced all of Tim, Tim and Face records in

567
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: because I did Stuck Like Glue with sugar Land back

568
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: in two thousand ten and Byron produced it. So one

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Speaker 1: day around that time, I was here in Nashville, and

570
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: I met Missy. She said, hey, you know, uh you'r

571
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: Shock Carter. You did that song with my husband? Said yeah.

572
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: She was like, would you like to work with Faith Hill?

573
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, of course. So you know,

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00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, I was like pulling up to

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00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 1: their house and Faith was just like such an amazing Uh.

576
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: She just showed me so much love and was so nice.

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00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: And then eventually I met Tim and you know, we

578
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: did a couple of songs on the album that they

579
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: did together. I did Speak to a Girl for them,

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00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: and uh, they just always just showed me love man,

581
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: and they liked my music and they've just been so

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00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: kind to me. So we just became friends and whenever

583
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: I got something and he helps me out of you

584
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: know when you said you did speak to a Girl,

585
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: you produced that for them? I wrote it? You wrote

586
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: it for that? Yeah, I was one of the writers.

587
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: So did you get that to them purposefully or did

588
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: you write it and go I think this is good

589
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: for this project that you're doing. Um, we we got

590
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: it to Missy because Missy would would always find songs

591
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: for them and still doesn't. She's just a beast at it.

592
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: And we actually wrote the song in Jamaica, me and

593
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: these two two other writers, and Missy got ahold of it.

594
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: Think BMG might have sent it to her or something,

595
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: and she she far hard for She's like, we need

596
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: this song, you know, like, hey, cool, I love y'all

597
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: to have it. Where'd you grow up all over the place?

598
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: I tell people I grew up in Memphis because that's

599
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: like my main formative years. But you know outside of Memphis,

600
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: outside Atlanta, when it's smaller town in Michigan. What moved

601
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: you all over the place? Oh? My dad, he's just

602
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: They always say, are we a military family? Which he

603
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: was in the Marines, but at that time he was

604
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: just working for the I R. S. And wherever we

605
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: would he would get a promotion, that's where we would go.

606
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: So what was it about music as you're moving around?

607
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Speaker 1: I mean, was that a stable part of like your childhood?

608
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: Because regardless because I moved around to a lot, was

609
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: music to you always important? Because regardless of where you went,

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00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: you still had it? You know? I never even looked

611
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: at it like that, But that's absolutely true. Yeah, because

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00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: I just remember riding when we had to leave a place,

613
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: just riding and crying and listening to the song's like

614
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: listening to boys to Men songs and Mama playing Tracy

615
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: Chapman and Ben Morrison and uh uh there was Yeah,

616
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: I can't remember another them. But whenever you guys are

617
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: moving around and you're a kid, are you playing music

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00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: at all? And worded? And why what got you into actual?

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Speaker 1: Like I think I want to do this for my

620
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: career as a song writer. Yeah, when I was in Memphis,

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Speaker 1: I was like ten, eleven twelve I started. I remember

622
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: I got a keyboard from my uncle and I was

623
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: like eleven years old and it had these little pre

624
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: made beats. You could kind of make the beats and

625
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: hit a couple of chords on there, and uh so

626
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: I would have a beat going and I would just

627
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: make these rhymes and just make whatever little silly song

628
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: I could to it um and I just loved it.

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Speaker 1: And I would just be in room also just pretending

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00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: like I'm singing to a crowd and stuff. And like

631
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: shortly after that, I formed a little group and we

632
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: sang at talent shows and stuff, like we're saying the

633
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: Mid South Fairs. We won the talent show at the

634
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Speaker 1: high school. Kind of group was it a singing group?

635
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: Like a boys to men type group. Yeah, just like that.

636
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: And a lot of times we didn't have the music

637
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: we wanted, so we were just singing our compella. They

638
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: had the good harmonies. I couldn't even sing the harmonies.

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00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: I had to like close my ear so I wouldn't

640
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: jump on their note. They were good with the harmonies.

641
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: I just sing the middle note and but I just

642
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: loved it so much. And then eventually I found a

643
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: guy who Um. I was working at sears and there

644
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: was a guy named Chris who and this is in

645
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: Memphis who Um was giving out cards that he was

646
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: selling selling beats like seventy five bucks or something. So

647
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: I went over there, got cool with him, made my

648
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: first song with him, and I just had the bug

649
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: after that. Did you pay him? No? What happened was

650
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: was what I was hoping would happen. That we we

651
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: we got cool and we just wanted to work together.

652
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: So you know, he was very kind and just helped

653
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: me out and try to help him out where I could.

654
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: So how did that bring you to Nashville? Because you've

655
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: been pretty prevalent in kind of my periphery for the

656
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: last few years. Because I mentioned to you maybe even

657
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: off the year. Like Keith Urban and I are buds,

658
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: and you know, I went over to his house once

659
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: and he was like, he's just playing some stuff from you,

660
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: and he was just so high on you. And Keith

661
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: is like next level. Sometimes I feel like I know music,

662
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: you know, play it a little study to learn. But

663
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: he like talking to in the language. Sometimes I don't

664
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: even understand. He's just in a different planet. He's brilliant man.

665
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: And when he's talking about how much he really like

666
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: loves someone's music and sound, I'm like, okay, I should

667
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: listen to this. And that was you. And so first

668
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: I'll ask you about Urban. How did you guys get

669
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: in kind of that same little little world? And but

670
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: then what is it that brought you to Nashville? Cool? Well,

671
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: once again, Missy gallum Or she she was finding songs

672
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: for Keith too, and she put a Keith camp together,

673
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: and so she just called me and asked me if

674
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: I wanted to come. That was a few years ago,

675
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: and and I went, and well, actually I just did

676
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: a couple of sessions with him. First, actually that song

677
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: speak to a Girl. He loved that song, and so

678
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: I wrote with him and a guy day that I

679
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: wrote that song with was um and yeah, we just

680
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: hit it off. He's just real cool. We like to

681
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: talk talk about you know, the songs just flowing and

682
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: coming um and not not overthinking it, just just just

683
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: letting it flow. And Uh, he's just he's just a

684
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: brilliant dude. Obviously, he's incredible on the guitar and it's

685
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: just fun to like create with him because he wants

686
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: to push the envelope. He wants to make something new

687
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: and fly. So it was Missy's managing me now so

688
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: because she's looked me up with everything I've had. Man,

689
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: so I want to come and go, Um, I want

690
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: to play some of these these songs real quick. So

691
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: your first, your first number one. I'm trying to look

692
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: at years here because I've got it all. Get your

693
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: whole life right here. Um. Two thousand nine, someday that

694
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: you wrote that Rob Thomas recorded. Did you write that

695
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: with him? Or do you write that for him? He

696
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: wrote most of that song, but so you wrote it,

697
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: but you but you wrote it with I wrote it

698
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: with I wrote it. I started it with matter Letic

699
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: who's produced all of the Matchbox twenty and Rob Thomas albums.

700
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: I started it with him and then they finished it together. Okay,

701
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna place him with this Here's Someday sound

702
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: what do you mean you started? Like, tell me the

703
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: process of this song, because it doesn't sound like you're

704
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: all three. Like a lot of songs do. They come

705
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: together at different points, at different times and years later.

706
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes you started it with Rob, with Matt okay, and

707
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: then Rob finished it. Yeah, they finished it together, and

708
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: so I don't know exactly how that how that was

709
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 1: never met him, that's crazy. That's funny. It's like sometimes

710
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: you'll see or you'll listen to a duet from two

711
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: folks and you'd be like, I love it, and then

712
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: you hear an interview like, yeah, we didn't think it together.

713
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: We don't even were not we never met. Yeah, I

714
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: mean that. That's pretty wild that you still haven't met

715
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 1: the guy. He's in Nashville decent amount too. Now, yeah,

716
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: I went to the show. That's funny. Wait, you went

717
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: to a show and you still didn't haven't met him. Man,

718
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: it's like I'm trying to see how long I canna

719
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: make it. That about meeting him here is stuck like

720
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: glue Number one for sugar Land from two thousand, Who

721
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: Like You and Me? Whoa You? Almost? So a couple

722
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: of things about this song. One of one of the

723
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: guys that I listened to a lot as a kid,

724
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: and you know me growing up in the nineties, it

725
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: was a lot of alternative rock. There's a lot of

726
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: hip hop up and growing up in Arkansas. For me,

727
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: it was a lot of countries. So that was kind

728
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: of my three my tent poles. Yeah, but I went

729
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: to more Better Than Ezra shows than just about anybody.

730
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: And I got on stage once with Better Than and

731
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: they were like, They're like, who knows how to play

732
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: this time of year? And I did. I was like

733
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: I do, and so I was pumped. I was gonna

734
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: get up on stage and they handed me a guitar

735
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: and then left handed. I was like, and they didn't.

736
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna play it, man, Kevin that story now

737
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: and Kevin and I have become friends. But you wrote

738
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: that song with Kevin the lead singer Better Than Right

739
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: and then Christian and Jennifer Nettles from Sugarland. Yes, sir,

740
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: how did that Right come together? That was cool. I

741
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: had just gotten to l a because the Rob Thomas

742
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: song was going and I talked to my publishing company.

743
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: I was in Atlanta, I was coming to Nashville. I

744
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: was hearing the music in Nashville for a few years,

745
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I want to do that UM.

746
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: But they also said that they could just get me

747
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: more rights if I came to l A. So I

748
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: went out there and actually was a guy named Casey Robinson.

749
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: I was working for b M I, so she's right

750
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: with Kell and Griffin. I was like cool. So I

751
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: met up and we wrote one one session. It was great.

752
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: We had a great time. And that was the second

753
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: time we hooked up UM, and we just we just

754
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: wanted to write a song. And he put up some

755
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: drums in the computer and I had actually broken my

756
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: drum machine. I used to go everywhere with this big

757
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: old drum machine MPC, and I had had broken it.

758
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: So it brought me back to what I used to

759
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: do with my friends, just beat boxing and beating on things.

760
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: So I didn't I said, man, just give me a guitar.

761
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: I just started beating on it and just making the

762
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: sounds of my mouth and stuff, and he loved it,

763
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: and we put a little loop together and we just

764
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: that was just that's just a simple song. We just

765
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: we just threw together, just trying to make something, and

766
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: we got a lot of it done. He was like,

767
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: this would be perfect for sugar Land and I was like, really,

768
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: you know Sugarland And he said yeah. My drummer from

769
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: Better Than Ezra was playing drums for them, so he

770
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: sent it to them. He said, leave you know, leave

771
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: space open. They want to write on it too, and

772
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: and they did. They made that wild bridge on there

773
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: and everything. I mean, that was a massive song, mass

774
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: of the song. Have you met them? Okay, it's been

775
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: funny if you had it, if every song he hadn't

776
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: met the person? Did you know better than right at

777
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: all from Kevin? Like before you met Kevin? Or was

778
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: that not really how because you're probably not as old

779
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: as I am, I'm close. Did you know them at all?

780
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: I knew the songs? I didn't really you know, sometimes

781
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: you just hear songs and it got big and I

782
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: didn't realize that that that was him. Did you know WHOA?

783
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: It's good? Yeah, yeah, so that song is massive. But

784
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: you're in California. What what made you move to Nashville?

785
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: Well before I had moved out there, I was coming

786
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: up here um to see a young friend I had

787
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: up here and and her uncle was playing I remember

788
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: it was like two thousand seven, two thoight. And the

789
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: thing that really made me um gravitate towards the music

790
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: here was hearing like the live instruments, the way they

791
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: would mix the songs, just the beautiful songs. And I

792
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: heard whatever it it blows me your way, and at

793
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: the time I try to tell how I feel, it

794
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: comes out I love you. Yeah man, it's that Brown band.

795
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: And like I started hearing all these songs that it

796
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: just like kind of refreshed my soul, man, and it

797
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: reminded me of the songs I grew up on that

798
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: were like Van Morrison and Tracy Chapman that really my

799
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: mom was playing. And there wasn't really a big the

800
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: R and B genre had kind of shrunk, and you

801
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: you couldn't like when I grew up, you could write

802
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: like Babysit Face was writing these songs for boys to

803
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: men that would go number one and in the top

804
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: forty charts. And then also like you had songs like

805
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm Amazed by You or or which became a top

806
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: forty song too. But you have songs like I swear

807
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: like all for One. I loved all for One. And

808
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: then there was a country version of that song. You know, um,

809
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: so that what I loved about the R and B

810
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: songs and stuff was always right there in country music.

811
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: It was always the same. And so it just clicked

812
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: in my head that man, I need, I need to

813
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: be writing this. Music like this encapsulates what I want

814
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: out of music right now, and there's no other place

815
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: for me to write it except for the country music

816
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: and in Nashville. So I was just always coming down here,

817
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: and I had a place Carla Wallace, a big yellow dog.

818
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: She had an apartment above her her her publishing company

819
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: on music Roll, and she rented me that apartment. So

820
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: I was just splitting time between here and there and

821
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: Missy us always telling me come down here, comany just

822
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: move down and just leave. I just like, man, I'm

823
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: not ready to leave in l A yet. But eventually

824
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: I left. I went to Santa Barbara. I was tired

825
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: of the air is bad, too many people. I relaxed

826
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: in Santa Barbara for a minute, and I came down

827
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: here and hit it hard, baby, way out in the country.

828
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: How long have you been here now full time three years,

829
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: so I want to go to two thousand and fifteen.

830
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 1: It don't hurt like it used to. Billy Currington, Yeah,

831
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: here's a clip of that. Did you write this one

832
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: here in Nashville? Yes, sir? So what was it? Was

833
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: this your first big Nashville like you were in Nashville

834
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: when Nashville folks getting a Nashville head? Was this the

835
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: first one? I guess it. I guess it was. Yeah.

836
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: Didn't feel different because of that, like you're you kind

837
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: of had, you know, put yourself in this Nashville culture

838
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: and now you've actually done it here as well. Yeah,

839
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: because actually it was hard for me to connect because

840
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that the writers here in Nashville would

841
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: book their sessions out like four or five months in advance.

842
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: I would just pop up and be like, yeah, I

843
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: want to write, and you know, some people like the

844
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: Warren Brothers, you know, they would they would make make

845
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: room for me. But I couldn't get it, you know,

846
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: my I couldn't get everything moving the way I wanted

847
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: it too, because I didn't. I was just on my own.

848
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have really a manager or a publisher. That

849
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: was connected down here, and so that's why I wasn't

850
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: having a lot of success. And Billy was a great

851
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: friend of mine. I had known Billy through Carla Wallace

852
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: as well. Um I put a talk box on one

853
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: of my songs and he heard. He was like, what

854
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: does that? What does that sound? I want to do? Uh?

855
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: And so it was actually very special to me because

856
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: Billy was involved and we we've been friends like for

857
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: years at that point, and he just showed up at

858
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: the studio and it wasn't even a writing session and

859
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: he just so, you guys wrote that and not even

860
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: a schedule writing session. Yeah, that's cool. How fast did

861
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: that come out? You know, sometimes you sit down to

862
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: create and stuff just falls out again. Sometimes you just

863
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: beat yourself in the head and you're like, I don't

864
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: have it today. But that song, if it's not a

865
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: planned session, that just kind of come out of you

866
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: guys pretty quickly, very fast. It was. It was a miracle.

867
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: Like I feel like all these songs are really just

868
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: super blessings man when they when they work, we just

869
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: got to be available and ready to receive the beautiful blessing. Man.

870
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: Let's play Speak to a Girl. You mentioned this earlier.

871
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: This is from Tim and Faith tell you talk to

872
00:43:54,920 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: one that's good, that's telling you get with the It's

873
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: gotta be pretty cool whenever a song that you write

874
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 1: and you know you have people out pitching these songs

875
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: or finding these songs, and somebody like Faith and Tim go, hey,

876
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: we think that's good enough for us to sing like,

877
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: that's gotta be like one of the greatest feelings is

878
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: something you created one of the biggest, most influential, most

879
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: powerful country artists in the past hundred years. It's like,

880
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: that's good enough. I love it. Yeah, I mean do

881
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: you need those sometimes to kind of go oh man?

882
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: Like if you're if nothing works for a while, you're like, man,

883
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: having written, nobody's picked up anything. Do you ever have

884
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: one of those that are like, we love it? You're like, Okay,

885
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm back in I feel like I'm kind of back

886
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: in the game. I'm rejuvenated. Yeah, for sure, Like I

887
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: would think with me, because this this industry is so

888
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: many failures. It's it's most it's mostly failing, yeah, and

889
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: it's can you kind of withstand all the failing to

890
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: get to the success? You know? Absolutely, man, that's what

891
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: it's all about. When Tim and Faith they said, we

892
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: want to sing that song. I gotta imagine that feels great. Yeah,

893
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: make you want to cry, man. And the first time

894
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: you heard it, you remember the first time you heard

895
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: it after they cut it, Yeah, it was on the radio.

896
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: That's the first time you heard it on the radio.

897
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: And they played it like on every single radio station.

898
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: Um that for they like premiered it, and so it

899
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: was pretty cool. Man. You wrote Heavenful Kane Brown, Matt Massive.

900
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about the Massive. Did you write this with Kane? No,

901
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: Kane was there though. He was upstairs writing another song.

902
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: That's funny. Yeah, he ranted a lake house or and

903
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: you guys all got got a bunch of riders out

904
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: and all, and so you guys wrote that while Kane

905
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: was upstairs right another one. Yeah, he even came down.

906
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: We went we hadn't even finished it, and we were like,

907
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: you want to finish this. He's like, no, y'all go ahead, man.

908
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: And that was cool of him to do that though, too. Dude,

909
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: Kane is Cane is a man. That's one thing I

910
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: love about country music too. And these artists I've I've

911
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: met so many genuine people that have just not been

912
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: you know that the l a pop thing or it

913
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: can just be very real sharkish, you know. And just

914
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: so I've I've just met so many good people that

915
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: just are like family and friends around here. Man. And

916
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: if you're listening and you're wondering why I say that's

917
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: cool to him to do, Kne could have easily walked down,

918
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: written a liner to change a couple words earlier, and

919
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: then been a full songwriter and taking part of the publishing.

920
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: For sure, Like that was that was him going, no,

921
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: you guys keep that money. Yeah, that's that's what that was.

922
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: And that's what exactly, that's what happened. You guys made

923
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: a whole lot more money because Kine was cool for sure, man,

924
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: And I'm very grateful. Thank you, Kane, Love you, big dog.

925
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: Kane's a good dude. Man. Um One call away from

926
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: Charlie Poot two thousand and sixteen, I gotta imagine finance

927
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: this song has been the biggest for you, Yeah, for sure,

928
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: because I mean it's it pop, it's international, it's it

929
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: was just an everywhere you went. Yeah, man, you ever

930
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: go to like Kroger's playing over the top, Yeah, I've

931
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: been all over the place it's been playing. Man, when

932
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: you wrote this one, tell me about that. That was

933
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: a That was a great blessing too, because I really,

934
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: I really wanted to get out of l A and

935
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: I didn't want to leave until I did something I felt,

936
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, I really got something great out of the place,

937
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: and I could I could move on, you know, because

938
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: it is it's it's it's just vultures man and his sharks,

939
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: and it's hard. But they called me one day said hey,

940
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: we got this soulful guy. He please work with him.

941
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: And he had the fast and furious song like getting

942
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: ready to it. It wasn't even I don't even think

943
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: the movie was out yet, but they had him and

944
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: him and with Khalifa had sing the song on on

945
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: a late night show. I looked at I was like,

946
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: that's cool. So I went and hooked up with him,

947
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 1: and so I started writing with him. As I'm writing

948
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: with him, the songs blowing up and he's becoming his

949
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: massive star. And so then he he rented a house

950
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: and it was in Montcito, California, by Santa Barbara. And

951
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: asked why I moved to Santa Barbara after that, and

952
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: because it was nice but you know, we stayed in

953
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: that house for like for like three or four days, man,

954
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: and you know, everybody wrote and I don't know where

955
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: all those songs went, but it was like the last

956
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: day and they just said, let's just go sit by

957
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: the fire pit. And we sat by the fire put

958
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: I have this guitar because you saw me played a mandolin,

959
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: So I have this guitar to that tune. Like a

960
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: mandolin has only got four strings on, it's called a

961
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: tenor guitar. And I had it with me, And that's

962
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: one of the best lessons I could tell anybody. Like

963
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: that was not a scheduled session either. It was just

964
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: let's go sit by the fireplace late at night. And

965
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: so because I brought that, like it changed everything and

966
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: I changed my life just because I picked that up.

967
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: Because otherwise we would have just went and sat by

968
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: the fireplace and just talked and laughed and then maybe

969
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: drank from training went to sleep. But instead I brought that.

970
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm picking around on it. We're just kicking around ideas,

971
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: and that song just came out pretty instantly too. Whenever

972
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: I've talked or worked with some l A songwriters versus

973
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: Nashville songwriters, and I'm curious to know how your creative

974
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: process is a lot of I would say more so

975
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: of the l a people that I've either talked with

976
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: or worked with, right the melody first. And for those

977
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: if you're listening, the difference would be like one call

978
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: away there would be no words to it, but you

979
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: would say, you got Dawn dada, you have to sign

980
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: any words yet, but you're writing all the melody where

981
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: some a lot of my friends in Nashville are very

982
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: like they've got concepts for lyrics. They've got a bunch

983
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: of lyrics that don't have any melody to it. Yet

984
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: they'd be like, all right, well only one call away,

985
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: Like they know what they want to say, but they

986
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: don't have a melody yet. When you write, are you

987
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: writing melody first most of the time? Are you writing

988
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: like concept lyrically most of the time. I am more

989
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 1: like the melody thing because I feel like, like even

990
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: I remember Michael Jackson saying a long time ago that

991
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 1: like he goes all over the world and people don't

992
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: even know the language, but they know the song because

993
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: the melody is so important. So and also when I

994
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: get to Scat in Vada, thing that like I will

995
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: say something like Scott almost say a word and we'll

996
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: just listen to it. The beauty of the fact that

997
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: we can record it all right there, saying through auto tune,

998
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: have fun with it, you know, hit all these different

999
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: and then you're like, wait a minute, it sounds like

1000
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: you're saying this, like maybe we should write about that,

1001
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: or it just gives you a feeling or an emotion,

1002
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 1: so it can it can you know, bring a concept

1003
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: to you by that. But I also love you know,

1004
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 1: sitting around, you know, when you're just walking around every

1005
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: day somebody will say something and uh, he said, oh, yeah,

1006
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: that's a good song. Let me put that in my

1007
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: phone or something. And so I love the Nashville way of,

1008
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: you know, just having really really thought out ideas and

1009
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: how how they want to approach it, and then just

1010
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, I love both of them. It's great to

1011
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: switch it up. When you did One call Away, did

1012
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: you melody at first? Were you sitting around? No? Actually,

1013
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: um d J Frankie he was sitting there and he said,

1014
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: I got idea. I just want to write one call Away.

1015
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: He said, I got this much. I'm only one call away,

1016
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: And he had that much and I had the guitar

1017
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: and I said I'll be there to say the day,

1018
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: and I just started playing the chords. And Mozilla is

1019
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: another great writer. She said Superman got nothing on me.

1020
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: And then I just booked ended it. I'm only one

1021
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: call away. There's the look like instantly man. And then

1022
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: I just when we just started kicking around the verse

1023
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: ideas man and and there was a A and R

1024
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: guy sitting right there with us who was the A

1025
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: and R for Charlie and he's he's this is a hit.

1026
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: This is his is nothing like writing the right writing

1027
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: something with the Usually you don't want them around and

1028
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be in the studio, but we're just hanging out.

1029
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: And the fact that he was just saying it was

1030
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: gonna be a hit the whole time, like let's do

1031
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: this here is never coming down that you're on this

1032
00:51:53,520 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: song with Keith Keith Urban here you go you beatboxing

1033
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: this song? Is that right? I'm trying to remember correctly

1034
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: because we just put in clips, but I'm thinking back

1035
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: to this this record in general, there's a whole beatbox

1036
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: here that right? Are the band is it to going?

1037
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: Did you do this in the studio with Keith. Yeah,

1038
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: it was a blast, was a funny session. You feel

1039
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: pressure to perform in a small room with Keith or

1040
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: does he make it loose where it's like, hey, just

1041
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: go do your thing and have don't work this time.

1042
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: We'll figure something that next time he makes it loose. Yeah, yeah,

1043
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: I felt pressure. I've been doing it a long time,

1044
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: Like uh, Nellie was the first person to give me

1045
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: a chance of real chance in the industry. And when

1046
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: I used to go around him like I was a

1047
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: super nervous man, and you know after time, I just

1048
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: less nervous as time goes on. Here is good as

1049
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: you number one, Cam Brown again, Baby, I just want

1050
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: to be good as you go your more than just

1051
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: deserve it. And then I'll play this one and we

1052
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: this is this song here God whispered your name like

1053
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: I love it so much. We I got married a

1054
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago here at the house and we

1055
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: played this is the song that we played as right

1056
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: before she walked down the aisle. And I've told Keith

1057
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: this many times because I don't think Keith wrote it.

1058
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: I know you wrote it. I think you guys wrote

1059
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: and got it to Keith right, and he produced it

1060
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: and I talked to Keith. I was like, man, that

1061
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: song means so much to us. Uh and he would

1062
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: have been at the wedden. They were out of they

1063
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: were out of the country, but we played it as

1064
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: as all of our h what do you call the

1065
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: bride's brides maids walked down. But this song to me,

1066
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: like in the last few years you wrote it. I

1067
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: can tell you to your face like, this is one

1068
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: of the best songs that that my ears have been

1069
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: EXPO was doing a long time because I was feeling

1070
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: it in my life when this song was out. Yeah,

1071
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, and I think that's a big part of

1072
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: enjoying a song too. Yeah, connecting to it, right, It's

1073
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: like the actual connection of it. Yeah. So congratulations on

1074
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: that one too, man, Thank you. That means so much

1075
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: to me. I appreciate that. I got, like, you know,

1076
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: goose bumps. What you're saying that, man, I want to

1077
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: see some of the footage and um, you you still

1078
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: play saxophone at all? No, I'm gonna pick you back

1079
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: up though. When did you stop playing? Uh? Well, I

1080
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: was really playing like in middle middle school, in the um,

1081
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: in the banding school and stuff. And when we went

1082
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: to high school. The band had to play during the

1083
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: football game, and I said, I can't, I need to

1084
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: go play football. I can't, I can't let them play football.

1085
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: And I come out with a saxophone in the middle

1086
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: of the football game. There was a There was a

1087
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: player in Arkansas named Dan Hampton who ended up being

1088
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL Hall of Fame. But he would go

1089
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: out in the Arkansas Football ga. He wouldn't go in

1090
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: a halftime and it's full football uniform. Hall of Fame

1091
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: player would go out and play in the band. Where Yeah,

1092
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: pretty crazy to look back at. Now, did you ever

1093
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: go play like on Bill Street? I did? Yeah, you

1094
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 1: know what's upping? Man? And so were you playing saxophone

1095
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 1: out there? I was. My dad took me down there.

1096
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: And what was the goal? To get better? To make money?

1097
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: Both it was just for fun, Yeah, to get better,

1098
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: definitely get better. Like he would put me in there

1099
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: with musicians that the whole thing was just a freestyle impromptu,

1100
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, think jazz music. And they would just give

1101
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: me a chance to just hit a solo. As long

1102
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: as I know what key is in, I just whoop?

1103
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: Is that an instrument? You could pick back up throwing

1104
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: in a week to be able to play a little bit. Yeah,

1105
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit longer than a week. I could

1106
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: figure it out if I put one, pull it out.

1107
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: Could you figure out something if I handed you one

1108
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: right now? Just to be serviceable? Yeah, I could. I

1109
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: could do a little something on there. It's all about

1110
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 1: that read and like you gotta suck on the read.

1111
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: Make it all where that that if you just pick

1112
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: it up in this dry and it will start screeching.

1113
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: I just it's like nails on the chalkboard. Man, you

1114
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: played at Watershed this past weekend? You do a whole set?

1115
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: I did? Man, when you do your sets? And how

1116
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: long was this set you played this weekend? An hour? Okay?

1117
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: Do you play some of the songs that you've written? Yeah?

1118
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 1: I play a lot of them. Do you tell people

1119
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: so they know you wrote it and you're not just

1120
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: covering it? Yeah, I gotta tell them. I hope they're listening,

1121
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: you know, because the beauty of having these songs is

1122
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: that I get to play songs people know. There's nothing

1123
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: like playing songs people know that they can sing along to,

1124
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: as opposed to here's twelve fifteen songs that are coming

1125
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 1: out that you guys have never heard. It's not as fun.

1126
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: You played at Lollapaloos as well. Yeah, had a big weekend.

1127
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: That's why I wasn't giving you a hard time. And

1128
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: You're like, I just woke up. I was like, if

1129
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: I had had your weekend, I don't know that I've

1130
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: woken up at all on Monday. But so you went

1131
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: from Gorge, Washington, Seattle, Ish to Chicago. What was that?

1132
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: What was the difference in the for those two festivals.

1133
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 1: It was one of the funniest weekends in my life, dude,

1134
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: because the Gorge was crazy and the weather like in Seattle.

1135
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: We flew into Seattle for and first and got to

1136
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: the weather was just perfect. Man. I got to see

1137
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,479
Speaker 1: one of my childhood friends out there and then Tim.

1138
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: I literally got on stage with Tim McGraw and saying

1139
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: I like it, I love it with him. I couldn't

1140
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: believe I got to sing that song with him. You know,

1141
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: do you have to riff? And and this as far

1142
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna tell earlier, I was I was doing

1143
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: something in Austin. There was a festival and sugar Land

1144
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: was playing and they were doing it was when Christian

1145
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: and Jenniferen got back together and they put out a

1146
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: record and they were back and they were doing um

1147
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: stuff like Glue. And I know Christian really well. He

1148
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: had opened for me when I was doing some comedies

1149
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: and theater stuff and I'd like, Christian, come out and

1150
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: you know, just played before me for half an hour.

1151
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: And so so for part of like that that area Georgia, Alabama,

1152
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: it was easy for him to get to so come

1153
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: out into some shows with us because he lives in Atlanta,

1154
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: and so we were in Austin and they were together

1155
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: and he was like, Hey, you want to come out

1156
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: and do a song with us with sugar Land. And

1157
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: I was like, not really, because I know what I'm

1158
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: good at and what I'm not and I don't need

1159
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: to go out and try to sing some sugar Land

1160
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: stuff or anything. And he was like, well, come out

1161
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: and do like the rap part. This stuck like Glue,

1162
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, I don't know,

1163
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that. I'm just gonna be

1164
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: in it enough to just walk out and feel that

1165
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: immediately like there was I said. But and so the

1166
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: network was going, hey we do something, come in and

1167
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: do something. So we can put on on TV that

1168
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: we're looking for one of these performances from Sugarland if

1169
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: you want to go, if you will do this, this

1170
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: will be the one we used for TV. And I

1171
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: was like, that's a that's for me. That's a weird

1172
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: kind of hip. I don't know what you call Jennifer

1173
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: doing that. I mean I would say it zimp hop.

1174
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of rap, but it's like, uh, damba dabada.

1175
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what to call it either,

1176
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: And I hope that's not defensive to you anyway. And

1177
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: so I go out and I try. I tell you,

1178
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: I went out and I did it. I give it

1179
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: a C minus. But my point is I looked over

1180
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: all the words and that the words to that they

1181
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: weren't hard to remember. But I didn't want to mess

1182
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,439
Speaker 1: up that that project. Right, you go out with Tim

1183
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: and you're doing I like it. I love it. You

1184
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: can't mess up those words, do you? Are? You staring

1185
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: at it beforehand? Is going? I know I know the words,

1186
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: but I need to make sure again. Definitely was man

1187
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: because I was doing that too, like I knew every word,

1188
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: just talk like and I was like, all right, I

1189
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: was sweet sweet, let me see okay. Oh then you

1190
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: feel like you're good. You come off stage like I

1191
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: nailed it. Um, you know, just gonna be honest. I

1192
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: think I might have. I think I might have goofed

1193
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: up the first line, which was which it was pretty

1194
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: I think I played it off okay to you know, Tim.

1195
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: Tim helped me out, but I think I killed the

1196
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: rest of it. I gotta watch my eye truck and

1197
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: dress up. I don't think got that truck line right

1198
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: right away. I kind of just went up there and

1199
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, shoot, it's really time, here we go.

1200
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: I gotta watch what earlier that day. That's how do

1201
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: you perform? Okay, so you're still in it though a

1202
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: little bit? Yeah, man, it was. It was. It was

1203
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: blast like we could they did. They didn't know, Man, No,

1204
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: they never know. And I'm gonna tell you to reel man.

1205
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: As long as you're smiling and you're having a good time,

1206
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: the crowd is too. That's what I learned a long

1207
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: time ago. They don't know if you mess up, you

1208
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: play it off, you know. So many of my friends

1209
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: would go like, hey, if I freaking it worse and

1210
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: I'll just put the mic out there. Everybody just things

1211
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: it back ung man. Yeah, So let's talk about the

1212
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: new song for a second, because you guys came in

1213
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: on the show Bear with My Friends. Yeah, Man, and

1214
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: Cole Swindell and David Lee Murphy came in. I played

1215
01:00:45,080 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: a little clip of this for you stop seeing. So

1216
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: how's this song doing right now? How do you feel

1217
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: like I do you feel like starting to cut through

1218
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: a little bit? Yeah? I think so for sure. Like

1219
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: as soon as we put it out, people were hearing

1220
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: it all in Florida, like, Man, you know, uh over

1221
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: the holiday weekend or something it was, and uh, yes,

1222
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: it's been really uh doing good on the on the

1223
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: stream and stuff. And could you write that one with

1224
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: David Lee Murphy and Brian Simpson. Yeah, and Brian's been

1225
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: replaced by colsch One dog. Yes, right, it's right. David

1226
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: Murphy is like the greatest dude though, right, He's so phenomenal, man,

1227
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: He's just everybody always says he's the coolest guy, and

1228
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: he is. He just comes around and he's got great

1229
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: ideas and he's a phenomenal writer. And it was just

1230
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: fun to hang out with man and whenever you guys,

1231
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: because you have this song. Were you writing it for

1232
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: you to cut, or you're writing it you're just writing

1233
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: a song that day. We're just writing a song. Most

1234
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: of the time, I don't try to even you know,

1235
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: make it so make it about me. I just want

1236
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: to make sure we're getting the best song. But uh yeah,

1237
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: there's another one that just came out real fast. It

1238
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: was Brian's ideas like that just be with my friends,

1239
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: like all right, that's cool and not not not not

1240
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: too complicated, you know. And we just wrote it on

1241
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: the guitar and it was It was great and they

1242
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: loved it. I loved it. But once we really demoed,

1243
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, this thing is like slapping, you know.

1244
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: And uh, Man Kenny helped us out. Man Kenny and

1245
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: Buddy Kenny, Kenny Chesney and Buddy Buddy Canny went and studio.

1246
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: They sped it up and got all those guitars rock.

1247
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: And once she sped it up and stuff, I was like, oh,

1248
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: this thing is the party sent trial. So why did

1249
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: you cut it? Why did I did it? Because I

1250
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: loved it. Yeah, I loved it. Man. I was like

1251
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: just bona fide hit to me, you know, And uh,

1252
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: I just I wanted them. I wanted to get some

1253
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: cool guys on there with me to just be with

1254
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: my friends. And David I was like, I loved love

1255
01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: for you to just get on here with me. Man,

1256
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: let's just do it together. Because it was that was

1257
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: the demo. Me and him just did the demo. I

1258
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: was just I love this, let's just do this. And

1259
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: what about Cale? How'd you come to inviting Cold to

1260
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: the song? I've always liked Cole. I love his music,

1261
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: and you know, we wanted to do We've been wanting

1262
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: to do something together and we're on the same label.

1263
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: So as Chris Lazy after, I was like, can you

1264
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: can you just send this to Cold? And right away

1265
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: as soon as he heard it, he loved it and

1266
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: it just came to to the studio. Man, it made

1267
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: it happen. Were you planning on pursuing the solo artist's

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01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: career at this point or did you write this song

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Speaker 1: and it kind of shoved you into doing it and

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Speaker 1: committing to it. No, it's actually been my plan ever

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Speaker 1: since I was a youngster man, like a long time.

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Speaker 1: So I've had this is my third major label record deal.

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01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: I've probably had five or six record deals and I

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Speaker 1: just really finally got a great team with Warner brother

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01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, s BO and Chris Lacey and all these

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01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: great people that um at Warner here, and I had

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Speaker 1: just put out Good Love was was the song that

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Speaker 1: put out you know, like last year or like whatever.

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Speaker 1: But so we we've already been promoting and pushing, pushing

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Speaker 1: the artist thing. Man, I was like this want to

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01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: hit them hard, right, how do you feel like you

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01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: feel like it's going good? Like you feel like like

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Speaker 1: radio is like this is one. I mean, yeah, that's

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01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: the one they really wanted. I went on. I went

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01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: on a radio tour I did in the middle of COVID.

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01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: I was the first one to actually go out like

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Speaker 1: they had a whole idea to send me out there

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Speaker 1: on a bus and bring the speakers out and and

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Speaker 1: through this whole presentation on people's in front front yards,

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Speaker 1: in front of their house or in front of their

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01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: uh you know, radio station, and we hit a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of them. And every time I played that song,

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Speaker 1: They're like, we want that song, we want that song.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm just so glad I finally can give

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Speaker 1: it to him. Man, let me play a little bit

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Speaker 1: of Good Love. So people know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: If you had to pick one artist, songwriter, producer, and

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Speaker 1: that was all you could do, Which one you're choosing? Oh,

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Speaker 1: just for me, just for you, you can only do one.

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Speaker 1: If I can only do one, Nobody's ever put it

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Speaker 1: like that. I would I would have to say, just

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01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: just writing, because then I would be singing songs I

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01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: didn't write, right, Yeah, So I love singing to people,

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Speaker 1: but I love to create, if I if I you know,

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Speaker 1: I would love to create. Man, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What do you do for fun? What are you doing Nashville?

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01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: Like create songs for fun? For you? Yeah? I mean

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Speaker 1: that's probably why you're so good at what you do, right,

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01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like for me that's the case.

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Speaker 1: Like I enjoy what I do, so I get better

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Speaker 1: at it because I love doing it. Yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of inspired by the job for sure, man,

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01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: which makes me better at the job. If you take

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Speaker 1: yourself out of music, though, Like, what do you what

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01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: are you doing around town? Yeah? I've been trying to,

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01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, have more fun outside of music like that.

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01:05:55,720 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: But mmm, I'd like to play basketball, like to uh,

1318
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, be out in nature, get on a boat somewhere.

1319
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: You gonna jump on one of these horses out there

1320
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: in the country, bare back. See what they're gonna do.

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01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: See what they're gonna do. Never works out for me,

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01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: that's see what they're gonna do. Never, never good. But listen, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm super pumped you came by. I know you had

1324
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: a crazy weekend, but I'm glad you came over the house,

1325
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: said what up? And I'm so grateful to be here. Man.

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Speaker 1: I think it's what I like about you coming by

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01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: as we were able to because we've been talking for

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01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: forty minutes or so. But once people see your entire

1329
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: package together, they don't realize how much they've been secretly

1330
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: influenced by Shuy Carter like. And that's kind of the

1331
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: plight of the songwriter sometimes. I got buddies have written

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01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: a ton of number ones and nobody knows who they are,

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01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: and they always wanted to be an artist, but they

1334
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: never either committed to it or they never felt confident

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Speaker 1: enough to go for it. And so I mean, you

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Speaker 1: wrote all that and now you're just like, let's go,

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01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: let's let's go. And I'm you know you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: the face of you. That's right, man, it's really cool.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Man. I'm a big fan. Thank you, sir,

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01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of yours. I have a question

1341
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: for you is how how do you possibly do a

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01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: radio show, podcast, TV shows, all these different things? Man?

1343
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: God gave you a little bit of extra hours in

1344
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: a day or you just take up at three every morning.

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01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's extra hours. And I say this,

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01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: I say this as and I mean this as I

1347
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: say because I'm not that talented at anything like this.

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Speaker 1: Now to hear me out, I don't have a skill.

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01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: I don't have something. I don't have a gift of

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01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: a skill that God gave me that I'm like I

1351
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: naturally I'm good at music, or I'm a great communicator,

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01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: or I'm great. But what I but what I was

1353
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: given was no one is more tenacious than I am.

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01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't. If I have a goal,

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01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't stop. And even if I suck and I

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01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: don't stop, I get better as I not stop. Noe

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Speaker 1: of this makes sense in the English language. Everything I'm

1358
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: saying here's wrong. But I don't quit. And because I

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01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: don't quit, I continue to learn, so eventually I get

1360
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: good at stuff because I've been bad at it so

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01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: long and I've I've just kept on so and so

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01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: now I'm pretty good a lot of things. I can

1363
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: write books, I can do TV, I can do radio.

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01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 1: Not great at any of it. But my my trick,

1365
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, in my pocket, has been I just don't quit.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that question. That's how I have time, is

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Speaker 1: that I just grind. But now I have a wife.

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01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: I just got married, and I have a wife, and

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01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: her goal with me sometimes is stop, like you're not

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01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: your job. It's a big part of who you are.

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Speaker 1: But I put so much worth into what I created

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01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: because I never had anything going as just a poor kid,

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01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: you know. And now you've got somebody who sees the

1374
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: worth in you, and they're like, you don't even need

1375
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: all that you You are already worthy. Man, you can

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01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: relax a little bit. She tells me that I don't

1377
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 1: know that always believe her. But we're getting there. So

1378
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: for me, I appreciate that question. But that's not about me.

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01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: It's about you know. But I've seen like that's the

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01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: that's the number one thing I see in life in general. Man.

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01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: It's it's never the person that's this the most talented

1382
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: a way, it's the person who works the hardest man

1383
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: just never gives up, that always went, that becomes the

1384
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: real winner. Man. And most of the times we're talking

1385
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: about this is an industry where you don't have a

1386
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: lot of success until you get some success. Like you're

1387
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: always fighting failure. Like nobody sees when you're failing. So

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01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: if you can just continue swimming, you'll get to the

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01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: other side. The same for me, man, Yeah, nobody sees.

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01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: Nobody sees all the songs that you're right that don't

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01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: get cut right. Nobody sees all the times I didn't

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01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: get hired or I get told no for projects. But

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01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: what they do see is when it does work out,

1394
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,879
Speaker 1: and as long as we can continue, we can withstand

1395
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: the nose, they can't keep us from the yeses. Then

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01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 1: one day you'll be ballroom ballroom dancing. I did win

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01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: that one, and I was not good. Not good? All right,

1398
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: you guys. Follow shy Shy Carter official on Instagram, stream

1399
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: berea with my friends. Check it out and see him

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01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: in your town. Go see him. I'd love to I again.

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Speaker 1: Follow him at Shy Carter official. Should I gonna talk

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Speaker 1: to you? M.