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Speaker 1: Here's Brian no, Rich Hornberger and Jared Smith.

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Speaker 2: Oh, welcome in. Good Saturday morning, hob your days off

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Speaker 2: to a fantastic start. Man, we have drama for days

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Speaker 2: over here. Good morning to you, Jared, Good morning Rich.

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Speaker 2: Everything good with you, guys. I'll tell you what I

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Speaker 2: would just like to make about eighty seven quick points

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Speaker 2: about Okayc's win last night against Indiana, and then you

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Speaker 2: guys can go eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how'd you get the eighties show?

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Speaker 2: We got to streamline it here, you know, we got

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Speaker 2: to get the ball moving. We can't wall stick, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean, like the one I can't talk

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Speaker 2: for seventeen minutes straight and then pass to you guys.

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Speaker 2: You know, you guys need your your shots as well here.

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Speaker 2: So eighty eight is a little too much.

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Speaker 4: Distributor, it's a little he's a distributor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, guard show, there we go. Yeah, Okay, So what

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Speaker 2: a game last night. First off, and really when it

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Speaker 2: came down to Okay, see flip the script, right, they

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Speaker 2: flipped the script in the fourth quarter. If you look

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Speaker 2: at the Pacers, the Pacers had outscored OKC by twenty

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Speaker 2: seven points in the fourth quarter over the first three games.

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Speaker 2: And the Pacers, they were the team that you look

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs. And what they've done in the fourth

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Speaker 2: quarter just coming back from the dead. We've talked about

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Speaker 2: them being the zombies of the sports world, right, They've

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Speaker 2: been so clutch in crunch time in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: And what did OKC do last night? They outscored the

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Speaker 2: Pacers thirty one to seventeen in the fourth quarter. That

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Speaker 2: is winning time. And Oka see just found away last

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Speaker 2: They came up huge down the stretch. Had to have

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Speaker 2: that game. They were staring a three to one deficit

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Speaker 2: in the face. And then you look at SGA, the

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Speaker 2: MVP was clutch, scored fifteen points in the final four

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Speaker 2: minutes and thirty eight seconds. We'll call it the final

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Speaker 2: five minutes. He's the first player with fifteen points and

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Speaker 2: went eight for eight from the free throw line in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter of a finals game. Since some guy

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Speaker 2: named Michael Jordan in nineteen ninety eight. And the last

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Speaker 2: quick point I will make is Okase really did remind

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Speaker 2: me of the ninety seven and the ninety eight Bowls

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Speaker 2: last night, cause you think about those games in Utah,

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Speaker 2: those games were battles down the stretch of those series. Right,

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Speaker 2: you had the flu game in ninety seven Jordan and

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Speaker 2: the Bulls are on the road and did what they

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Speaker 2: did against Utah, and then ninety eight the game winning shot.

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Speaker 2: Those games were so close, and it just felt like

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Speaker 2: last night when you looked at OKC, it felt like

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Speaker 2: they were on a treadmill and it was on the

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Speaker 2: highest incline setting. It just felt like they were just

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Speaker 2: slowly just walking up a mountain the whole night. The

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Speaker 2: crowd's going crazy. Pacers have been so great in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter and in crunch time and they can't buy

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Speaker 2: a three. They can't make a three to save their lives.

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Speaker 2: And they just played great defense and were scoring however

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Speaker 2: they possibly could even had the SGA pushoff on Nisman Jordan. Right,

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Speaker 2: it really reminded me of the nineties Bowls last night

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Speaker 2: what happened with OKC. But what a game, man, what

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Speaker 2: an absolute game last night.

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Speaker 5: That was Yeah, that was a special game. I completely

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Speaker 5: moments where I felt like I was watching basketball from

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Speaker 5: a different time. And look, we can complain a lot

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Speaker 5: about a lot of things. You can complain a lot

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Speaker 5: about the way basketball's played these days, more of a

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Speaker 5: perimeter game. It features less aggressiveness, even though it's it's

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Speaker 5: a contact sport. I feel like they're quick to the

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Speaker 5: whistle usually in terms of the referees and how games

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Speaker 5: are officiated. The players, and we can get really you know,

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Speaker 5: outside of the finals, you know, sometimes you know player usage.

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Speaker 5: The coaches and players will make strange choices where if

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Speaker 5: these teams will roll over and die and say, hey,

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Speaker 5: we'll chalk this one up as a loss, and we'll

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Speaker 5: look forward to the next game in this seven game series,

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Speaker 5: there was none of that. There was none of that.

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Speaker 5: Okay See was having a terrible night moving the ball,

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Speaker 5: they were having a terrible night from deep, and they

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Speaker 5: found a way to battle back. They never left this game.

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Speaker 5: They stayed tied to the moment, to the emotion, to

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Speaker 5: You're absolutely right. It wasn't pretty. It was an ugly win.

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Speaker 5: But ugly wins can win you championships. If you get

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Speaker 5: four ugly wins in a row, guess what, you just

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Speaker 5: swept the team. If you get four ugly wins by

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Speaker 5: the time Game seven rolls around, you just want a championship.

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Speaker 5: So it's find a way. And that's exactly what Oka

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Speaker 5: See did last night. And that was the most fun

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Speaker 5: I've had watching basketball this entire postseason.

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Speaker 3: I would argue, well said, I think before I start

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Speaker 3: the this championship series, not only in the NBA, but

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Speaker 3: the NHL the Cup Final as well. I know we

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Speaker 3: complain a lot, and we whine and we moan, and

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Speaker 3: we analyze and we overanalyze, and we will continue to

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Speaker 3: do all of those things because that's our job. But

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Speaker 3: I'll take a second here and just be a fan.

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Speaker 3: This is awesome. This is freaking awesome, and we won't

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Speaker 3: get many, like a few more days of it, right.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we'll get two more games in the Stanley

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Speaker 3: Cup Final. Oh no, we will. We'll get two more

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Speaker 3: games in the Stanley Cup Final. Maybe we'll get three.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll get three more games of the NBA Finals. Maybe.

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Speaker 3: I think, frankly, both series will end in six. That's

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Speaker 3: my prediction here on June fourteenth. It's that the teams

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Speaker 3: that won the last game have now captured momentum of

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Speaker 3: both of these series. And to both of your guys point,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't it wasn't pretty last night. You know what

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Speaker 3: was pretty, though, The ability to overcome adversity. I think

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Speaker 3: that is the true test of a champion. I honestly do.

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Speaker 3: I don't think these two teams that we have in

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Speaker 3: I think now have the inside track to win the

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Speaker 3: championship in their respective sports. I don't think they're the

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Speaker 3: best teams, the best champions we've had even in the

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Speaker 3: night being our focus now with Oklahoma City out scoring

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Speaker 3: combine twenty seven for twenty seven at the free throw line. Wow,

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Speaker 3: did not miss a free throw all night. The three

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Speaker 3: best players on the best team in the league. Clutch, gritty, grueling.

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Speaker 3: Not an easy win, but they overcame the adversity and

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Speaker 3: don't want to say it was the sealer because there's

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Speaker 3: still again best of three. Anything could happen. We've seen

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Speaker 3: Indiana overcome their fair share of adversity in this postseason.

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Speaker 3: But Oklahoma City is.

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Speaker 4: A worthy champion.

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Speaker 3: They deserve the flowers for going on the road last night,

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Speaker 3: overcoming everything, including Steven A playing solid there during the game.

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Speaker 4: And being able to clinch the win. Very impressive stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know, It's crazy is depending on how a game unfolds,

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Speaker 2: a stud performance might become a total footnote.

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Speaker 3: You know, you go to.

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Speaker 2: Baseball, you know, remember the Mets when Andy Chavez made

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Speaker 2: it's a total footnote, right, Like, that's how I felt

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Speaker 2: last night with Andrew Nemhard the defense he played on

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Speaker 2: SGA and how much of a pesty he was a

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Speaker 2: loose dort like pest, and I mean that completely complimentary.

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Speaker 2: He was just pestering SGA until the final five minutes

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Speaker 2: was just crazy. How Oka so he found a way

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Speaker 2: shoulder shrug them hard. He did his thing. But that's

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Speaker 2: not where you're gonna remember from this game. A couple

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Speaker 2: other things point jump out at me. It's not a

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Speaker 2: three point shooting contest. I hear so many times where

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Speaker 2: we make today's NBA just that, well, if you make

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Speaker 2: more thre's probably gonna win the game. If you shoot

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Speaker 2: a better three point percentage, probably gonna win the game.

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Speaker 2: And last night Okase was ice freaking cold from three.

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Speaker 2: They hit three of them all night. They shot under

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Speaker 2: nineteen percent from the three point line three for sixteen.

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Speaker 2: You're not supposed to win games in today's NBA shooting

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Speaker 2: there are many ways to win games. You can win

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Speaker 2: down to that. It's just not true. And I think

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Speaker 2: we were right to point out that Mark Dagnalt, the

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Speaker 2: SGA played the entire first quarter, all twelve minutes, and

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Speaker 2: last night, and that was big. I thought that was big.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise he just wouldn't have had enough gas left in

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Speaker 4: At the end there, yep.

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Speaker 2: And he hit some huge shots, the three pointer to

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Speaker 2: was the push off on Nie Smith. Absolutely a travel

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Speaker 2: I get Pacer fans are upset about that, but hey,

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Speaker 2: not gonna get every call perfectly. It's not gonna go

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Speaker 2: your way every single time. And when you slow it

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Speaker 2: down in slow motion, that looks completely different than in

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Speaker 2: live action. It looks like he pushed. It looks like

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Speaker 2: a WWE push off, you know what I mean, when

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Speaker 2: they slap each other in the chest to begin the match.

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Speaker 2: That's what it looks like in slow motion. In liftime,

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Speaker 2: it didn't look like that. I don't think my live

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Speaker 2: down and it's like, oh my gosh, he really got

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Speaker 2: away with one right there. But that's the way it goes. Man,

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna get perfect officiating all the time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. And it is a contact sport again, and so

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Speaker 5: there's gonna be room for error. There's going to be

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Speaker 5: margins with physicality. The officials, the rafts, they're gonna blow

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Speaker 5: on other things. And again, it's a championship series. So

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Speaker 5: I never I never really complain about a ref airing

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Speaker 5: on the side of Hey, was it afoul? Wasn't a foul.

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Speaker 5: I didn't quite see it from the correct angle. I'm

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Speaker 5: They outrebounded the Pacers forty three to thirty three, offensive

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there are plenty of Pacers fans today. I've

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna win either. I think it's

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Speaker 3: They are a worthy champion. They overcame what they needed

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was man, that was a high, high hurdle

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Speaker 2: madhouse and the Pacers, I mean, they were in great

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Speaker 2: I think it'd be funny if OKC ends up winning

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Speaker 2: it's over, no chance you're gonna end up winning three

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Speaker 3: Guess what the favorite is right now for the series? Okay,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a good chance that will happen. We'll see

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Speaker 2: So the New York Knicks, Wow, this good. This head

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Speaker 2: coaching search is leaving a lot to be desired.

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Speaker 2: They just the Knicks remind me of a former supermodel

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Speaker 2: where they're just they're still thinking themselves in those terms

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Speaker 2: Now that was a long time ago you did that

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Speaker 2: The Knicks just kicked Tom Thibodeau to the curb, and

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Speaker 2: they don't have a real plan for who their next

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Speaker 2: They want Jason Kidd. The MAVs are like, yeah no,

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Speaker 2: Let's see me. It's been rough and it might work

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Rule number one of skydiving is bring a parachute

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Speaker 3: and not Nicks denied interview with Jason Kidd. Then the

430
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 3: next headline Nicks denied interview with Emi Udoka. Then the

431
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 3: next headline Nicks to night interview with Finch, Nicks to

432
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 3: night interview with Night or nixt to night interview.

433
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 4: With Billy Donovan. Billy Freakin Donovan.

434
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bulls want to keep Billy Donovan so badly.

435
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 4: That they wouldn't even let him interview with the Knicks.

436
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: And I don't want to get into the dynamics of

437
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: Billy Donovan and the Bulls. That's not the point of

438
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: this story. I think he's actually had a really very

439
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 3: interesting career. But the point of this story is, you

440
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 3: do not fire the head coach, the only head coach

441
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 3: in the last two decades to win two rounds in

442
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: the playoffs, unless you know who your next head coach

443
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 3: is going to be. You have built this entire team

444
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 3: around culture, grit, determination, muscle, all of the attributes that

445
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: Tom Thibodeau brings to the table. And if you don't

446
00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: think he is the right guy to take you to

447
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 3: the finals, I am not in a position to argue,

448
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: but I can tell you if you fire him without

449
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 3: a plan in place, a succession plan, it's not gonna

450
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 3: work out.

451
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 4: It was a bad decision, whether or not TIBs is

452
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 4: the guy or not. This was a bad move. And

453
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

454
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: Who they're gonna hire, Mike Brown, Taylor Jenkins, one of

455
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 3: those guys. It sounds like I just don't understand the logic,

456
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 3: the plan. What's your plan?

457
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 4: I don't think there was one.

458
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: I think the meatball sub thing makes a lot of sense.

459
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: And you know what, something else Rich said a week

460
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: or two ago, It really does seem like, Hey, maybe

461
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: Tom Thibodeau is a little like Belichick right where it's

462
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: not the guy that you would expect in the workplace

463
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: to be like, hey, Jimmy Dolan, Howard things is everything going?

464
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 6: Like?

465
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 2: It was the vision trip cool? Tibbs just I was

466
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: like I got film to watch, you know, That's how

467
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: Belichick was right, Robert Craft couldn't wait to get rid

468
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 2: of Belichick, and so maybe there was something there. This

469
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: is absolutely a James Dolan move. James Dolan kicked TIBs

470
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 2: to the curb, and now the process is what it is.

471
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: And it also seems like you ever see it and

472
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: they're totally set up. Do you ever see those like

473
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 2: mock wedding proposals at like halftime of a basketball game

474
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 2: or something like that and the girl says, no, that's

475
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: what the Knicks seem like. They seem like, you know,

476
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: it should probably say yes, it should work out fine, right,

477
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: And now they're in this spot where it's like, where's

478
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: your self awareness? What was the plan? B If all

479
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: these teams just said no, we don't give you permission,

480
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: not granting that to talk to our current head coach,

481
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 2: what were you gonna do next? Did you not anticipate

482
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: that at all?

483
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 5: They didn't.

484
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: They didn't at all, And that's why we are where

485
00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: we are.

486
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 5: I really think it is and it is crazy. It's

487
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 5: it's uh, I mean. And also the list of coaches

488
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 5: that they asked to interview in the list that they

489
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 5: didn't like, you know, like you start going down the

490
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 5: list like you mentioned Udoka and Donovan and Quinn Snyder

491
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 5: like they they didn't talk to Rick Carlisle or asked

492
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 5: to talk to him, or or or tylu or jj Red.

493
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 5: I mean, like, was there a point where, like at

494
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 5: some point you just think to yourself, like, hey, we've

495
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 5: shot or shot and missed with with these guys, we

496
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 5: may as well just continue stepping on rakes in the

497
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 5: grass until we find one who will allow us to interview.

498
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 5: Or or were they embarrassed and they kind of sheepishly

499
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 5: tucked their tail between their legs and stopped doing that.

500
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 5: Here's here's the problem now though. The problem now is

501
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 5: after letting go TIBs the way he did, which I thought,

502
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 5: you know, from the standpoint of how it happened, it

503
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 5: sends out a bat signal to other coaches that this

504
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 5: is how you will be dealt with in New York.

505
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 5: Like it puts up it puts up a little bit

506
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 5: of an ice front or a cold front for from

507
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 5: from the standpoint like you know, you may be mistreated

508
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 5: if you come here from a head coaching standpoint. There

509
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 5: were rumors circulating before the playoffs even began that Tom

510
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 5: Thibodeau was out and there were still analysts and people

511
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 5: close to the game who were shocked about his firing.

512
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 5: But there were rumors and then they followed through with

513
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 5: those rumors, and Timms is still owed thirty million dollars

514
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 5: on this contract.

515
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't know that.

516
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 5: I mean, he is going to be paid a boatload

517
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 5: of money by the New York Knicks. So you have

518
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 5: that part of it where it's like, hey, even if

519
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 5: you think you have security based on the time left

520
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 5: and on your contract or the money left on your contract,

521
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 5: guess what, you don't. And we have no problem embarrassing you.

522
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 5: So if we don't get along with you, good luck

523
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 5: finding somebody who is interested in you know, the public

524
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 5: humiliation that they really kind of put one of the

525
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 5: most not prolific, but one of the winningest coaches they've

526
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 5: had on the staff in a long time. I mean

527
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 5: we've cited it so many times, how long of a

528
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 5: playoff drought and an Eastern Conference final drought it had

529
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 5: been prior to Tibbs. But it's it's it almost outside

530
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 5: of winning a championship. I don't think anything would have

531
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 5: reversed this decision for the Knicks. They didn't care.

532
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: I can't. I've totally forgot about the contract. That makes

533
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: it even worse that that's how you know if it

534
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: wasn't a Dolen decision, he had to have signed off

535
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: on it.

536
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he did.

537
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,239
Speaker 3: There's no way that they would have fired him and

538
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: owed him all that money. And maybe there's something in

539
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: his contract where they can get out of it at

540
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: some point. I I'm not privy to it. I didn't

541
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 3: look at his contract this morning. I totally blanked on

542
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: that aspect of this story, which is an interesting nugget

543
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 3: because it makes the search that much more exhausting. Like

544
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked if Leon Rose game six in

545
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: Indiana goes up to Carlisle and then in the tunnel

546
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: like hey, Ricky, Hey, we're gonna we're probably gonna fire Tibsy,

547
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: any interest in coming coach for us? Like I just

548
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: at this point, the desperation like it's it's it reminds

549
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: me of that guy at the bar at the end

550
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 3: of the night and you gotta, hey, you gotta you gotta,

551
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: you gotta close, you gotta finish your your your masculinities

552
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: on the line. You don't bring a girl home, don't

553
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: even get me started on that argument, but it's just.

554
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: It's just it reeks of desperation.

555
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: It absolutely reaks.

556
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 4: Did they not think all of these rejections would.

557
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: Be made public? Like with each passing rejection, the odds

558
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: of them getting a star to come play for them,

559
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: like Kevin I don't know Kevin Durant, who's available, by

560
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 3: the way, who the Sons are desperately trying to trade.

561
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: It just decreases their odds of getting one of those players,

562
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: cause it just makes them look like they don't.

563
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 5: Have a plan.

564
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: If you are a player in the NBA and you

565
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: have any semblance of a brain with an eight with

566
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: an agent, and a forward thinking mindset, and you're sitting

567
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: down with the Knicks and you're like, hey, Leon Rose,

568
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: what's your plan? I don't know, We're gonna call all

569
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: these coaches that already have jobs gainfully employed and begged

570
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: them to come coach for us. Well wait a minute, then,

571
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: you just have a coach that took you to the finals,

572
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: that made it further than all of the other coaches

573
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: that you're calling in the postseason like it just and again,

574
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: I'm not an NBA expert, I'm not this analyst that

575
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: covers the league. But I do have common sense and

576
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 3: I know that you don't leave a job until you

577
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: have another one lined up. That's just a dumb move.

578
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: You don't fire a head coach until you have another

579
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: one lined up. It is a dumb move when you're

580
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: running a multi billion dollar organization like the New York Knicks.

581
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: Shame on you, Leon Rose, Shame on you, James Dolan,

582
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: Shame on the entire operation for allowing this to happen.

583
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's rough, man. Sometimes I wish coaches behaved like players.

584
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: They're better off for not doing that. But if there

585
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: were a player that was done dirty like Tibbs just was,

586
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: there's a good chance they would be pretty vocal about it.

587
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: Right now.

588
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And you're not gonna hear a peep from

589
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: Tibbs any smarter off for doing that, because it's just

590
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: gonna make him look bad. But it'd be funny to

591
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: hear an interview from Tibbs right now. Oh yeah, of

592
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: like you see what I was dealing with?

593
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 5: You see what? Right? You see?

594
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: Like we've rattled it off. They made it to the

595
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Finals for the first time in twenty five years.

596
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: Back to back fifty win seasons again for the first

597
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: time since the nineties, you know, and you look at

598
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: it's crazy to go through the seven years before TIBs

599
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: where they didn't make the playoffs, and sometimes it's kind

600
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: of like, I can't even really remember. So it was

601
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: Derek Fisher was a head coach for like a year

602
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: and a half, Kurt Rambis was the interim head coach.

603
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: Then it was Jeff Horniseck for two years. Then it

604
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: was David Fizdale. You take that for data, that guy

605
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: for like a year and a half. Then there was

606
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: another interim coach, and then there was TIBs. Like it

607
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: was Lean from Mike Woodson until Tibbs, and there were

608
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: a multiple coaches in between those two. And it's like

609
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: that you could be staring that in the face right now.

610
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: Now watch this. Somehow, some way work out where these

611
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: teams like the MAVs and the Rockets and all these things,

612
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: not only do they not want to let go of

613
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: their head coach, but if they are going to lose

614
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: their head coach, they'd like some compensation for it. They'd

615
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: like a first round pick or something instead of just

616
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,239
Speaker 2: letting them go. You know, So maybe it works out

617
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: where they get a draft pick and the Knicks still

618
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: get who they were initially looking for. It could work

619
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: out that way, but man, this is a bad process.

620
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: We talk about process all the time in sports betting.

621
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: Every now and then you luck out you're playing Texas,

622
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: hold them, You're like, I'll go in with ten three

623
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: off suit. It's it might work out. You know, it

624
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: worked for Texas, Dolly ten two close right like, and

625
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: it's like, it's not always gonna work out every now

626
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 2: and then any two cards you run into some blind luck.

627
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: But your process was bad. You know, Like there's even

628
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: if it works out well for the Knicks, the process

629
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: is freaking terrible.

630
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 4: It's not gonna work out well for them in this situation.

631
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: It just seems like it shouldn't because the process has

632
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: been so bad.

633
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: Like, what's the best case scenario, Taylor Jenkins mikee.

634
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a retired It's good. That's the world

635
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 5: that they're going to exist in now. In terms of

636
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 5: this coaching hunt is gonna be the retired head coaching route,

637
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 5: whether it be collegiate, most likely professional. They're gonna find

638
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 5: an NBA tread They're gonna sign him to a shorter

639
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 5: tester like contract, and that coach probably won't see the

640
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 5: end of that contract either before being let go. And

641
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 5: then maybe at that point they'll be bad enough for

642
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 5: long enough to have enough of a draw in terms

643
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 5: of the draft picks they've amassed. Uh, if they trade

644
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 5: off a couple of stars in a mass a few

645
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 5: more where a head coach will take the bait, well

646
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 5: they'll be like, yeah, I've heard all the horror stories

647
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 5: about the Dolans. I know organizationally they're unorganized or disorganized.

648
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 5: Maybe I could come in and help. And plus we've

649
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 5: got a bright future if we spend those picks the

650
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 5: right way. Yeah, I'll be a part of the rebuild.

651
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 5: That's honestly, it seems bleak, but that might be the

652
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 5: best outcome for the New York Knicks right now.

653
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the deal man, here's nothing. Yeah yeah, yeah,

654
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 4: back to the drags of the Kegs.

655
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: Well that's that finals around, guys.

656
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: If it's not that and it's one of these current

657
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: head coaches, they're gonna have to send some compensation. Might

658
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: be a first round pick. The problem is they sent

659
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 2: five first round picks in the mckel bridges deal.

660
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god four.

661
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 2: Unprotected picks and mckel Bridges is a good player. Good,

662
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: but that's a lot of compensation for mckel Bridges. And

663
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: if you're trying to get Jason Kidd and it's gonna

664
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: require a first round pick, whatever it requires, you don't

665
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 2: exactly have just this OKC treasure chest of a surplus.

666
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: They spent years building this team around Tibbs's culture, like

667
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: Bridges is a Tibbs guy. Yeah, defensive mind died gritty

668
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: and you built this entire team with an architect in mind.

669
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Speaker 3: And now you swapped out the architect right when the

670
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: team reaches their peak. Well, and then you didn't have

671
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: another backup architect to replace them.

672
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. Yeah, that's exactly where they are right now.

673
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: I've got rich Orenberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR,

674
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Speaker 2: betting analyst, and a Knicks fan at heart from as

675
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,360
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Speaker 5: Today.

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Speaker 2: What it's going on, Dear Jerrett, We're getting weird today.

697
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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, We've got at I think at minimum

698
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Speaker 3: two games, but I don't think we're gonna get to

699
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Speaker 3: a third game. So I'm just gonna go out and

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Speaker 3: the season. We're not gonna get to a game seven

702
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Speaker 3: next week. The series we'll have next Thursday, So go

703
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 3: big or go home. Here's what we're gonna do. We're

704
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: gonna take a bunch of picks. I know I have two.

705
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: I know Brian has too.

706
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 4: Rich has like one and a half.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we're gonna be able to get

708
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Speaker 3: his second pick in the parlay because he's getting weird

709
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: with his drops today, but maybe he'll switch on me

710
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: last minute. Here I'm gonna so we're just gonna do

711
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: a two leg parlay and then we're gonna smush them

712
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: all together and get six legs and that equals to

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Speaker 3: the mega. SGA to score thirty at Oklahoma City to win.

714
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: This is just this is like Peanut Butter and Jelly Baby.

715
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 3: The Thunder are eleven and three in the postseason when

716
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 3: SGA scores thirty or more. Two of the losses were

717
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 3: in the Denver series. The other loss was Game one

718
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 3: of this series. So in the last two games, by

719
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 3: the way that he's failed to reach thirty points, they lose.

720
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: So it just it seems like this is a very

721
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: correlated play. SGA gets to thirty more than likely the

722
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 3: thunder are gonna win and vice versus. So I'll go

723
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 3: and this is just minus one fifty on its own.

724
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 3: I don't mind this on its own. SGA to score thirty,

725
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City to win the game, the first two legs

726
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 3: of the metal.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I've changed up mine, all right, throws are not allowed,

728
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 5: No tho the bottom doesn't like it. Yeah, okay, let

729
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 5: me just focus on points and let me go over

730
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 5: nineteen and a half Pascal Siakam. He's been a consistent

731
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 5: scorer in this series, especially as of late. And then

732
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 5: let's go with less than ten and a half points

733
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 5: on Alex Caruso. I'm taking the under there because, look,

734
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 5: he is not one of their primary scores. He played

735
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 5: a great role off the bench in game four. I'm

736
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 5: going with the zig Zag here though he went over

737
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 5: ten and a half last game. Let the under ten

738
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 5: and a half this game in game five. So there

739
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 5: you go. Over for Siakam, under for Caruso.

740
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll go fast. If I have no choice, I'll

741
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: go with the Pacers team total over one oh five

742
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: and a half. I mean it says we saw it

743
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: last night with Okay see backs against the wall. This

744
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: is a gots to have it game. You're telling me

745
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 2: they're not gonna score one oh six.

746
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 5: I know.

747
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: Okay, See's defense fantastic. I like them going over. I'm

748
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: gonna go Miles Turner over. Fourteen and a half points

749
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: and assists.

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Speaker 4: We'll get fourteen to one.

751
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 3: Fourteen to one.

752
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 5: Not bad at all.

753
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 4: Mega, Oh what is going on?

754
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: Happy Saturday to you? Okay? So you know how some

755
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: shows and some talking heads they like to have it's

756
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: like Bruce Buffer where they're in the red corner, we've

757
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: got the NBA playoffs, in the blue quarter, we've got

758
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and then Bruce Buffer is like, that's time.

759
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 2: You know you've got to pick one and talk trash

760
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 2: about the other. We don't do that here, you know,

761
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: we don't. We don't pit these as foes. We have

762
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 2: them as friends. The NBA and NHL playoffs. So yeah,

763
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 2: we're gonna do a little comparison between the two because

764
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: you look at game four in both series, off the

765
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Speaker 2: freaking charts. What drama you saw it? Last night in

766
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: the NBA playoffs, OKC comes back brilliant fourth quarter, They

767
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 2: win a tight, hard fought game. It was tremendous. You

768
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 2: look at Game four of the Stanley Cup Final. Wow,

769
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 2: you had Edmonton that was trailing three to nothing after

770
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: the first period. They're staring a three to one deficit

771
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: in the face. They come all the way back, they

772
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: tie the game, they win it in overtime. Just drama, drama, drama, drama,

773
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: Like Florida has the game tying goal in the final

774
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: twenty seconds and then Edmonton wins it in overtime. It

775
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: was sensational. So if you look at game fours in

776
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: the NBA and the NHL, which loss was worse. Was

777
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: it Florida They're up three nothing at the end of

778
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: the first period and they lose in overtime or was

779
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: it the Pacers. Pacers are up. I don't know what

780
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: their biggest lead in the fourth quarter was. I think

781
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: it got to double digits. But they're up healthy lead.

782
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: They've been nails in the fourth quarter. They had been

783
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: outscoring OKC by twenty seven points in the fourth quarter

784
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: of the first three games, and they got outscored thirty

785
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: one to seventeen and lost Game four at home with

786
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: the chance to go up three to one. So we'll

787
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: throw it to you first, Rich there it is no

788
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: movement the fastball right down the middle in your wheelhouse?

789
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: Which loss was worse? Was it the Florida Panthers in

790
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: Game four or was it the Pacers last night in

791
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: Game four?

792
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 5: I think it's the Pacers because I think I realized

793
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 5: that we're looking at kind of a similar thing where

794
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 5: there was a favorite coming in and it's been a

795
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 5: more contentious battle than maybe we expected or maybe the

796
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 5: public expected. I think you could have made an argument

797
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 5: for why this series is panning out the way it

798
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 5: has between the Pacers and the OKC. But when the

799
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 5: doors left the jar and you find yourself in the

800
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 5: third quarter, in the fourth quarter with an opportunity like

801
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 5: you have, and it didn't feel like the tides were

802
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 5: shifting in a major way. It's not like the undercurrent

803
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 5: all of a sudden shifted like it did in Game

804
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 5: four of the Stanley Cup Final. This truly felt like

805
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 5: it was death by a thousand paper cuts in the

806
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 5: Pacers game. And at any point they could have, you know,

807
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 5: reversed the course. They could have played smarter defense, They

808
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 5: could have prevent themselves from turning over the basketball like

809
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 5: there were so many self inflicted wounds. They could have

810
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 5: stopped the charge to the free throw line that was

811
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 5: consistent throughout the fourth quarter. Sga was bottled up for

812
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 5: three quarters and then he had a brilliant fourth quarter.

813
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 5: You'd give him a ton of credit. He's the MVP

814
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 5: for a reason. But it just felt like the Pacers

815
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 5: really let one go that they potentially had dead to

816
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 5: rights middle of the third quarter. And so I'm gonna say,

817
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 5: you know, I guess worst best it was. It was

818
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 5: the best performance by Okac in the comeback, the worst

819
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 5: performance by the Pacers. If we're just comparing the two games.

820
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: It's a good question. I think I think about it

821
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: two ways. The first way is Indiana was a bigger

822
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 3: favorite at that point. I think I'm not pretty sure

823
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 3: because it was much earlier in the game that the

824
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: Oilers were down. Right by the time we got to

825
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 3: the middle of the second period, the game was tied,

826
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: and so there wasn't it wasn't that late game push

827
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: like Oklahoma City had. They were down. I want to

828
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: say they were down ten in the fourth quarter. Okay, see,

829
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: I think that was the below. Like if I had

830
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: to look at the odds, I would guess and I

831
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Speaker 3: don't have this in front of me, I would guess

832
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City was a bigger underdog. If you were just

833
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 3: saying which team was the biggest underdog at any point

834
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 3: in the game, I would say it was Oklahoma City.

835
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: But then I think about what Florida did to come

836
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: back down late, tied the game and the final what

837
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: like five seconds, and then still lost. That feels like

838
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: it's more debilitating in the long haul for me, at

839
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: least mentally to come like for Edmonton to be down

840
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: three zero and come back three to three. Okay, it

841
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 3: was early in the game, and then Edmonton took the

842
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: Florida tied it back up and then still lost the game.

843
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 3: Like to me, I think, if you're asking me which

844
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 3: game will have a bigger impact in Game five, we

845
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,479
Speaker 3: were all in agreement. Game five was gonna go Oka

846
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: See no matter who won last night, even if they

847
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: were down three to one. In fact, if OKC was

848
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 3: down three to one, I would feel even more.

849
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: Confident that they were gonna win Game five.

850
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: Now that they've done what they've done, I still feel

851
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 3: confident they will win Game five. But the zigzag that

852
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 3: would have been like a double zigzag if they would

853
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 3: have lost both three and four in Indiana, they would

854
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 3: have won Game five at home. The Edmonton Florida series,

855
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: now that one felt like each moment is magnified because

856
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 3: of how close that series really is. It was a

857
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 3: pick them going into the series. Edmonton got a slight

858
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 3: edge for being at home. They get the home ice.

859
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 3: But Ford, I think most people think they're the better team. Well,

860
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 3: now it's two two going back to Edmonton, best of

861
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: Edmond think gets two of them at home. Like that

862
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: series is just completely shifted now, whereas we even felt

863
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 3: comfortable thinking, okay, se could win three straight if they

864
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: were down three to one, but if Florida went up

865
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 3: three one, no, I think that would have been it.

866
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: Well, I think of this two ways also, but my

867
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: two ways differ from your two ways, Jared, which is

868
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 2: why this is a great question.

869
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I agree?

870
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: Which loss was worse? You had the Florida Panthers up

871
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 2: three to nothing in Game four, they lose in overtime

872
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: or was it the Pacers they're up? I gotta look

873
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: at the play by play. I think they got up

874
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: by ten in the fourth quarter.

875
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 3: I think it was ten. I think that was the peak.

876
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 2: And then the Pacers ended up losing. I think of it,

877
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 2: first off, just as Game four. If you look at

878
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: just Game four, I think the Florida Panthers loss was worse,

879
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: and I hear you, Jared, I don't know what the

880
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: odds would have been. Maybe you're right, Maybe the the

881
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: Thunder would have been a longer long shot to come

882
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: back and win with what they were facing the fourth

883
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 2: quarter last night than Edmonton when they're down three to nothing.

884
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: Edmonton had to be a healthy underdog trailing by three

885
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 2: goals problem right away, you know, so it'd be pretty close.

886
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: And I just think the way Game four went, when

887
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: you're up three to nothing in a Stanley Cup final game,

888
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: that should be a rap. I know, some crazy stuff

889
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: can happen, fine, but you're up three nothing and the

890
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: backup goalie is in there and you can't score that

891
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: freaking guy, right, Like I thought, just for Game four,

892
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 2: the Florida loss was worse, But I think the Game

893
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: four loss for the Pacers is worse if you think

894
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: about the series as a whole, because just look at

895
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: the betting odds. It's not all about betting, but it

896
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: does give you a gauge. Sure, look how much this differs.

897
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: OKC to win the series is minus six twenty five.

898
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 2: The Florida Panther to win their series minus one oh five.

899
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: So that means if you're backing Okay, see, you've got

900
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: a risk six hundred and twenty five dollars just to

901
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: win one hundred dollars. If you're backing the Panthers, you

902
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: get a risk one hundred and five dollars to win

903
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars, far less risk. So the Panthers, if

904
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: you look at the series, they're in much better shape

905
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 2: sure than the Pacers are. Pacers are plus four fifty, right,

906
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 2: like the Panthers are minus one oh five. So you

907
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 2: put one o five on the Panthers instead you win

908
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: one hundred. You put that same money on the Pacers,

909
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna be over four hundred and fifty dollars. I

910
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: all want to confuse you with all these numbers, and right,

911
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: it's just like Indiana is a much longer long shot

912
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: now that they've lost Game four than the Panthers are.

913
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: That's how I look at it.

914
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that's maybe maybe I'm conflating things,

915
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 5: because I do think that I'm having a hard time

916
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 5: just focusing on the loss as opposed, and the comeback

917
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 5: for OKC as opposed, and what it means for their

918
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 5: destiny as opposed to just focusing on the moment. Look,

919
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 5: credit to Edmonton for having the stones to remove Skinner

920
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 5: and replace them for Picard and then also, you know,

921
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 5: for a backup goalie, for an alternate to come into

922
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 5: a game and not really be solved until the end

923
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 5: of the game. I mean, they couldn't get to them,

924
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 5: and then the shot chare for Edmonton skyrocketed. It felt

925
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 5: like after that first period, they settled down, they got

926
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 5: to the bench, they discussed things and went, hey, look,

927
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 5: we we just got have to put more pucks on

928
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 5: that if we're going to even have a shot at

929
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 5: this game. And uh and and obviously when you're your

930
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 5: your your goalie, when your guy and goal is having

931
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 5: a night like that, sometimes give him a rest. And

932
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 5: that's a tough decision to make as a coach because

933
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 5: I guess you could say you could make the argument

934
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 5: it couldn't go any worse, but in actuality it could have,

935
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 5: you know, And it worked out for them. In terms

936
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 5: of the Pacers, though, I don't really think that you

937
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 5: can look at the at OKAC and say Wow, they

938
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 5: did something really different in the fourth quarter, because they didn't.

939
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 5: The only thing that really changed was Sga got his Like,

940
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 5: at some point in every game against the Thunder, the

941
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 5: reigning MVP of the league is going to have his

942
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 5: way like you just I mean, he's going to get

943
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 5: his points. So whatever you got to do to limit

944
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 5: the damage around him, you've got to do that. And

945
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 5: I think that again, I think a lot of the

946
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 5: wounds for Okac leading to an inevitable comeback was a

947
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 5: result of self inflicted wounds. And I then think that

948
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 5: the reason why the Pacers let it go was self

949
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 5: inflicted wounds. It wasn't some major sea change and undercurrent

950
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 5: that pulled them out into deep order and they just

951
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 5: couldn't tread any longer like in the case of the Oilers.

952
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 5: I think this was I think this was truly the

953
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 5: Pacers had to win. They were holding it in their

954
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 5: hands and it turned to sand in it and it

955
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 5: slipped through their fingers. So I don't know that one

956
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 5: feels more detrimental. I do feel like it is more

957
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 5: humiliating the way the Panthers lost. We'll see how the

958
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 5: rest of the series shake out, but I think that

959
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 5: was a much more impactful moment series wise for the

960
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 5: Pacers than it was for the Panthers.

961
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it looks like the Oilers were ten to

962
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: one when they were down three to zero. Wow, to

963
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: win that game. And I don't have the live odds

964
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 3: in front of me, but the highest win probability for

965
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: Indiana was up ten late third quarter, they were in

966
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: eighty nine point six percent win probability.

967
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 5: Wow.

968
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,959
Speaker 3: So if I pull out my little odds calculator here

969
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: and I go eighty nine point six, God, I'm such

970
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 3: a nerd?

971
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: Is that the new one?

972
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 3: Like?

973
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 2: Does that replace the scientific calculators you had to have?

974
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: If we got what was the name of the one

975
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 3: the T I T three, What was the name of

976
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 3: the one you had in high school?

977
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 5: I forget what the name of it?

978
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 4: Used to play games on it?

979
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 3: Eighty nine point six implied odds is minus eight sixty two.

980
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 4: So Edmonton was the bigger underdog.

981
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 3: Good call Brian at ten to one, down three to

982
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: zero in the first period. And now, now to be fair,

983
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 3: to be fair, I don't know what the odds were right,

984
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 3: Like if you just took the straight up implied odds

985
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: from eighty nine point six percent win probability. It equals

986
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 3: minus eight sixty two odds. I don't know if that's

987
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 3: actually what was being offered. My guesses it was higher

988
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: because there might have been big involved, and especially when

989
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 3: you're doing a live bet, the juice, right, the tax

990
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 3: that the sports book is charging you is higher. Like

991
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 3: usually it's minus one ten for a regular bet, but

992
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: in the live market sometimes it's minus one fifteen.

993
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 4: It's like the base odds.

994
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: So my guess is probably around minus a thousand. Anyways,

995
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: they let's leave it at this.

996
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 4: They both were really big underdogs. Yeah, they both were

997
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 4: really big.

998
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 3: Underdogs, and both of them won Crazy's. And again that

999
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: goes back if you listen to the top of the show.

1000
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 3: This has been an awesome, fricking postseason for the NBA

1001
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 3: and the NHL. You had in the last two nights

1002
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: a three to zero game, go back to three to three,

1003
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 3: then four to three, then four to four in the

1004
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: final seconds, then overtime, and you had a team that

1005
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 3: has been a historically good defensive team find their defense

1006
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, hold Indiana to seventeen points, the

1007
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 3: race a ten point deficit late third quarter, and get

1008
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 3: over the hump, and now I think we're all in

1009
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: agreement in Oklahoma City's gonna win this NBA championship, and

1010
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 3: rightfully so, because they've been the best team all year,

1011
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 3: but they had to overcome major adversity. They've had their

1012
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 3: backs against the wall twice. This has not been roses

1013
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 3: and rainbows and sunshines and butterflies for this OKC team.

1014
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: I know they've look that way at times. Down to

1015
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 3: one to Denver on the road, down at half, pull

1016
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 3: that game out and win, win the series in seven,

1017
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 3: down to one at Indiana, down ten late third quarter,

1018
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 3: pull that game out and win. And now I think,

1019
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 3: as we say, with a big favorite, they're probably gonna

1020
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 3: win the NBA title. Awesome postseason. Doesn't really matter which

1021
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: game was more comeback, ye, but they both were freaking awesome.

1022
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: They really were. You talk about a one to two

1023
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: combo right there. Both game fours off the charts, NHL, NBA.

1024
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 2: It was sensational stuff. So if you're enjoying both, like

1025
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: and that's legal, you can't You can't enjoy both. It

1026
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: is it is I read the fine print. It is

1027
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: legal to.

1028
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 3: Do an overdose on comebacks in sports.

1029
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: Right, cannot you just can't parlay him. You know, you

1030
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: can't parlay the game for Edmonton comeback with the game

1031
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: four OKC comeback. That's the shame of it all. What

1032
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 2: if you wanted ten to one and ten to one

1033
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: parlayed for who knows what that would be, right, We

1034
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 2: can't do that. We can't suspend time. That's the unfortunate

1035
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: drawback right there. All right, we've got Rich Ornberger, Penn State,

1036
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,000
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1037
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1043
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: coming up next our main man, Seamus McGee. He'll get

1044
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: you all set for Game fives, pivotal Game fives plural, Right,

1045
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,920
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1046
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,640
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1047
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:49,160
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1053
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: This follow the money, real good money.

1054
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 2: Yes, we welcome in our good friend Seamus McGee, team

1055
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 2: lead of sports Trading at BEDMGM. You know, Seamus, good

1056
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: morning to you. I've got live betting on my mind.

1057
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: So if you think of these game fours legendary stuff, right,

1058
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: huge comeback by Edmonton and Game four, huge comeback by

1059
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 2: OKC in game four. If you give us a glimpse

1060
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: into the BEDMGM live betting portfolio, right, like, how much

1061
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: money line underdog money.

1062
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:40,479
Speaker 5: Do you see?

1063
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: You see people just like I'm taking OKC. Man, I'm

1064
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: taking Edmonton. They're down three to nothing. This is the

1065
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: perfect time to strike. How much underdog money do you

1066
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: see compared to favorite money where people are like, yeah,

1067
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: I gotta lay a lot to win a little. But

1068
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: there's no way Florida is losing this game. No way

1069
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: that the Pacers are losing this game, How does that

1070
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: break down for you guys?

1071
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 6: That was good to be back. Yeah, it's a bit

1072
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 6: of a mixed bag. I'd say really depends on the game.

1073
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 6: I'd say you've probably seen more of it in hockey.

1074
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 6: You know, the classic saying you're worstle in hockey's two

1075
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 6: goals and now maybe three goals the way the game's

1076
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 6: going in the past few years. But just you know basketball,

1077
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 6: last night, we actually did pretty well in play on

1078
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 6: the on the game last night, so that was good

1079
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 6: to see. So it really depends on the game. It

1080
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 6: kind of like footfalls a lot whether people you know basketball,

1081
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people will, you know, see

1082
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 6: how the game's going and they'll lay a number on

1083
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 6: the spread. But you know, it depends on the team.

1084
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 6: Like the Pacers, I feel like whenever their dad, we'll

1085
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 6: start to see a lot of money on them in

1086
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 6: play some of the crazy comebacks they've had. So I

1087
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 6: guess it really is kind of a mixed bag. You

1088
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 6: think you can expect what you see. I think hockey

1089
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 6: is a little more predictable which way the money is

1090
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 6: going to go.

1091
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. We just we just did a segment

1092
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: on that, you know, which was the greater comeback or

1093
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: I guess maybe which was the bigger uh, the bigger

1094
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: lapse between Okay, see Indiana Game four and Florida Edmonton

1095
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 3: Game four. I'll present that same question you because I

1096
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 3: think we were all kind of on different sides of it,

1097
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 3: like which game was more detrimental to that team's hopes

1098
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 3: of winning that perspective series, was it Florida blowing the

1099
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 3: three to er leader or the Pacers coughing up that

1100
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 3: double digit deficit in the second half.

1101
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 6: I really want to lean Pacers here just because it

1102
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 6: you know, the hockey, it feels close, but like the Pacers,

1103
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 6: if they went up three to one, I just feel

1104
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 6: like it's just gonna be way harder to come back

1105
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 6: in basketball than it is in hockey, especially if you know,

1106
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 6: the Pacers have a chance to close it out in

1107
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 6: Game six at home if they were up three to one.

1108
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 5: Uh.

1109
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 6: And like the Panthers, they are no strangers to the

1110
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 6: Oilers coming back. I mean, you remember they heard three

1111
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 6: to er last year and they went to Game seven.

1112
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 6: So I I lean Pacers was more detrimental to their

1113
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 6: to their championship. Look, and you can see them on

1114
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 6: the odds the way they moved after the game.

1115
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 5: Where's the PubL money going and where's the sharp money

1116
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 5: going ahead of Game five after that furious comeback for Okse.

1117
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 6: So right now it's actually gotten a little bit more

1118
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 6: balanced as the you know, as the games have progressed before,

1119
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 6: you know, the start the series, we're seeing a lot

1120
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 6: of love for like the Pacers money line, and then

1121
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 6: it kind of flipped back to the Thunder because you know,

1122
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 6: they had to win that game. Then Pacers money came

1123
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 6: in for Game three, and then we actually had a

1124
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 6: really good night. A lot of people expected to at

1125
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 6: least that on the Pacers to go up three to one.

1126
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 6: So right now it's a little early. You know, we

1127
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 6: got two days before Game five, so it's about split

1128
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 6: right now.

1129
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: You know, shame is besides getting to a Game seven,

1130
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: which is obvious. Is there anything that bet MGM would

1131
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 2: like to see in the NBA and the NHL playoffs?

1132
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 6: NHL, we'd like to see the Panthers with this series.

1133
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 6: The Oilers are a pretty small loser on the futures

1134
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 6: book right now, so I think we'd rather see Florida

1135
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 6: win the Stanley Cup. But the NBA was it was

1136
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 6: a crazy you know, few days leading up to the finals.

1137
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 6: We took you know, a few heavy bets on the

1138
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 6: Thunder series price to win this, which really brought down

1139
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 6: a lot of our Pacers liability. So right now it's

1140
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 6: looking pretty good to the point where like Pacers winning

1141
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 6: is actually almost preferable now, the Thunder winning. It's crazy

1142
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 6: how it turns out. It's just how much money comes

1143
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 6: in the days leading up to the championship series is

1144
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 6: really on full display here.

1145
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is wild, especially because I think going into

1146
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 3: the series, nobody thought Indiana had a chance, and and

1147
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 3: now we thought maybe they had a chance, and now

1148
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 3: maybe they don't. We do have a game tonight, and

1149
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 3: I know we have a couple of days until the

1150
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 3: next NBA game, but we do have a hockey game tonight,

1151
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 3: and I think the side is priced correctly because I mean,

1152
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 3: not a lot separating these two teams. You just give

1153
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 3: the Edmonton you know, home eyes, and that's why they're

1154
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 3: a slight favorite. But the totals intriguing to me. Shame

1155
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 3: is I think at some point I got some point.

1156
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 3: We saw it happen multiple times in the Standing Cup

1157
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 3: Finals last year, especially later in the series, and I

1158
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 3: would say Game five, later in the series, We've got

1159
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 3: to have an under at some point, Like these games

1160
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 3: have just been goals, goals, goals, overs, overs, overs, a

1161
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 3: lot of money coming in on the over. Tonight is

1162
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 3: tonight the night we finally get that two to one,

1163
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 3: three to two nail biter, even though all the games

1164
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 3: have been nail biers. But is tonight the night we

1165
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: finally see it under?

1166
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 6: I mean, we open this six and a half under

1167
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 6: minus one fifteen. It did get that down to minus

1168
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 6: one twenty. But I can't trust any that I would

1169
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 6: make on an under in this series. There's just so

1170
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 6: much firepower and you never know what's Stuart Skinner you're

1171
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 6: gonna get in goal or even the card for Edmonton.

1172
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 6: So I mean, your best bet is you hope Lebrowski

1173
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 6: just you know, stands on his head and keeps out,

1174
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 6: you know, McDavid in dry sidle. So I don't know's

1175
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 6: it's a really tough ball to want to bet an under,

1176
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 6: but you you are right at some point you think

1177
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 6: there's some regression to the meaning here.

1178
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 5: It does feel a kind of a two horse race

1179
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 5: in terms of the finals. MVP in the NBA. But

1180
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 5: is there a dark horse you like?

1181
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 6: I really like the loud Dort After the first few games,

1182
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,439
Speaker 6: like he just pretty miss it felt like, but now

1183
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 6: it does. It's hard for me to kind of find

1184
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 6: a dark horse right now. I think, you know, Siakam

1185
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 6: had a pretty decent game last night, even though they lost.

1186
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 6: I think maybe if he really really makes a push

1187
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,919
Speaker 6: for it, he could have a shout. But it really

1188
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 6: does feel like it's going to be either Shay or Halliburton.

1189
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 2: You know, Seamus before we get to the Seamous special,

1190
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 2: a bonus question because I know you're all excited for

1191
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 2: Nixon Bricks right the Knicks and did the same day

1192
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 2: the Indy five hundred. What is up with your New

1193
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: York Knicks right now?

1194
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 5: My friend?

1195
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 2: What's going on there?

1196
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 6: Everyone's freaking out about the coaching search. I'm not really that.

1197
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,959
Speaker 6: I'm not like Brett level Midnight yet about the coaching search.

1198
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 6: They're just asking teams if we interview your coach, and

1199
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 6: of course they're all really good coaches. They're asking interview.

1200
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 6: They're all saying no, So I don't mind them doing that.

1201
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 6: They're the only team right now. It feels like looking

1202
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 6: for a coach. I really feel like the you know,

1203
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 6: the failed shape if they can't get someone they really

1204
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 6: want is the assistant on staff Johnny Bryant, who is

1205
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 6: a shortlist for the Sun's job before. I really don't

1206
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 6: want Mike Brown kind of over him, but I could

1207
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 6: live with Taylor Jenkins, like, I think that's worth a

1208
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 6: shot if Yeah, there's interest there. But I'm not worried yet.

1209
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 6: I mean, they've just been asking people who already have jobs,

1210
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 6: and the teams just don't want to let their coach go.

1211
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 6: And for good reason.

1212
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 5: I am.

1213
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: I'm disappointed by your you know, your very uh you know,

1214
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 2: modest very, you know, like, let's see, you're too rational.

1215
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 6: Leon Rose has a plan. I will follow that.

1216
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 3: Man, does he does he? Do you really think that?

1217
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 5: Who know?

1218
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 6: Look at where we were before. I remember when Steve

1219
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 6: Mills was here and it was just awesome. This man

1220
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 6: is single handedly getting fifty win season's home court in

1221
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 6: the playoff series run to the East Finals. I'm sad

1222
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 6: it's see TIBs go, but I understood kind of like

1223
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 6: what the thinking was. It does feel like maybe this

1224
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 6: is the ceiling for TIBs. But it was tough to

1225
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 6: see him go. We didn't love them here.

1226
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 3: I agree with that take. The problem was, if you're

1227
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 3: going to let him go, you got to have someone

1228
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 3: ready to hire, and it doesn't seem like they have

1229
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 3: that situation worked out.

1230
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 4: That's the issue.

1231
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 3: It's not the firing, it's the plan after the firing

1232
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 3: that I take issue with.

1233
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 6: I think they were a little worried that Brian would

1234
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 6: leave to go to Phoenix, so they said, okay, well

1235
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 6: let go of Tibbs, reach for the stars. You know,

1236
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 6: Jason Knda and Quinn Snyder. I saw those get out

1237
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 6: and if not, we'll interview some other guys coming around

1238
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 6: here and then if all else sales, we do have

1239
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 6: a guy that's already on the bench, so there's a

1240
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 6: sense of continuity there. But yeah, we'll see. I mean,

1241
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 6: the next interviewed like twenty coaching candidates before they even

1242
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 6: landed on Tibbs. The last hiring round Star, I expect

1243
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 6: them to be pretty thorough.

1244
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if Quinn Snyder is the Stars or

1245
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: like then the emergency like uh, you know, stale ramen noodles,

1246
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 2: so you need a meal one of the two.

1247
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 6: I don't know. That's a weird one. I think Putsire's

1248
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 6: a really good coach. But that's I For some reason,

1249
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 6: I just have that in my head. Bull me crazy.

1250
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. Billy Donovan was the one where I

1251
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 3: was like, what are we doing here?

1252
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well yeah, all right, well we've uh, we've delayed

1253
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 2: it long enough. Here Seamus, what is the Shamus Special today?

1254
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 5: Buddy?

1255
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 6: All right, I'm gonna need you guys to hang with

1256
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 6: me here.

1257
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 5: Just follow.

1258
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 6: I'll speak slowly for this one. So last year we

1259
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 6: had the Euros. Of course in soccer, it was a

1260
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 6: great tournament. This year we have the under twenty one

1261
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 6: Euros happening right now in Slovakia and at Nude we

1262
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 6: have Spain versus Romania. We are going to take the

1263
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 6: first half over one and a half goals. Wow, Okay,

1264
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 6: don't don't ask that.

1265
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 3: I don't ask. I just bet it's just Bain Romania

1266
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 3: under twenty one euros first half.

1267
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 4: Over one and that half.

1268
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 5: Oh my god, my god.

1269
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: Sometimes I love the explanation of you know what, just

1270
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 2: roll with it, just let's know.

1271
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just want to open you guys up to

1272
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 6: the There's a whole wide sports out there, a lot things.

1273
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 3: You can find we're gonna go the under eighteen route

1274
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 3: next week. There, sure, very nice.

1275
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 6: We'll keep getting younger under eighteen year olds is also happening.

1276
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 6: It will stick with the under twenty ones maybe some

1277
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 6: players that are actually in some of the big leads.

1278
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: All right, seamous great stuff as always, buddy, Hope you

1279
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,439
Speaker 2: have a good Saturday. We'll catch you soon.

1280
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 6: Thanks, guys, have a good one you too.

1281
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 3: There he is great.

1282
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 2: Jamus McGee, team lead of Sports Trading at bet MGM. Hey,

1283
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: by the way, it is time for the tire rack

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Speaker 2: four win, you know what I was thinking about when

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Speaker 2: we were talking to Seamus about Tibbs. You know, it

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Speaker 2: would be hilarious. I hope this happens. I hope that

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Speaker 2: there's breaking news and a leading candidate has emerged for

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Speaker 2: the head coaching job of the Knicks and it's Tom Thibodeaux.

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Speaker 2: That would be beautiful. It's like, you know what, what

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01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 2: they're discussing, a thirty million dollar contract tips culture right, like,

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01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: certainly sets the culture. There's no doubt there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of things to like about the guy. We know

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Speaker 2: it's not gonna happen, but that would be hilarious if

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Speaker 2: they just completely backtracked and they're like, all right, you know,

1310
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,799
Speaker 2: we we broke up. I looked if the grass was greener.

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Speaker 2: Turns out it wasn't. I mean, let's just let's just

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Speaker 2: make this work, right, So I'm selfishly rooting for even

1313
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 2: though it won't happen. So Aaron Rodgers is married. Huh, guys,

1314
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 2: apparently this freaking guy I I don't know who is

1315
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 2: advising Rogers. I'm hoping someone's advising Rogers to just be

1316
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 2: as unlikable as possible. I hope that's the case. If

1317
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 2: they're like, hey, man, if you want to be unlikable,

1318
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 2: do it this way, and he's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: and then he does it that way. That's the only

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01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 2: reasonable explanation for him. Like he's signing his contract with

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01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: the Steelers and literally he almost has his ring finger

1322
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: up to the camera in the air, like yo, check

1323
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 2: it out, like the ring fingers up in the used

1324
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: right exactly, and then he's just, hey, so are you

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Speaker 2: married Rogers? You married Rogers? You're married, Yeah, a couple

1326
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 2: of months ago. Yeah. He loves it. He loves you know,

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Speaker 2: like setting the stage and everybody's all interested. And then

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Speaker 2: he's like, I'm casual, cool Rogers. He is such a jackass.

1329
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Speaker 2: I cannot describe how much of a jackass he is.

1330
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 2: He's reached a new high in the jackass meter. He's

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Speaker 2: off the freaking charts now.

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Speaker 5: I'll say this, you know, just speaking from like the standpoint,

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01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 5: and it's very different for a quarterback than it is

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Speaker 5: for an offensive lineman in the NFL, But speaking from

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Speaker 5: the standpoint of you know, being pressed into you know,

1336
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,440
Speaker 5: having to speak to the media every day and uh

1337
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 5: and and being around guys who are asked the same

1338
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 5: questions over and over and over again. I can't even

1339
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 5: imagine what it must be like for a player of

1340
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 5: his caliber, for as long as he's played, to deal

1341
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 5: with sometimes great questions that are really pursuing a deeper

1342
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 5: level of interest in the game or interest in the person.

1343
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 5: And then also kind of, almost paradoxically, in the same room,

1344
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 5: during the same media scrum, answer question from somebody who

1345
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 5: may not even belong in the room, you know, may

1346
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 5: have gotten credentialed because they know somebody or there's somebody's nephew,

1347
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 5: and they ask the dumbest question you've ever heard. And

1348
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Speaker 5: you have to answer both of these questions not only

1349
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 5: as if you're interested, but you know, like pretend that

1350
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 5: the value is the same, and that is really difficult

1351
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 5: to uphold. So there is a part of me that

1352
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 5: I agree with you, Brian, Like I really do agree

1353
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 5: with you, Like there are things that he does specifically

1354
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 5: that sign of kind of grind my gears. But at

1355
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 5: the same time, like there's a bigger part of me

1356
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 5: that's like good Man you know what, I'm happy that

1357
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 5: one of us is out there, I mean, like the

1358
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 5: fraternity of football players, just speaking his mind, being who

1359
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 5: he is, whether you agree with him or not. And

1360
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 5: trust me, I don't agree with everything he says or does.

1361
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,719
Speaker 5: And because it's almost freeing in a way to see

1362
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 5: somebody be free, you know, because I truly don't think

1363
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 5: he really cares what Brian Know or Jared Smith or

1364
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 5: Rich Hornberger former player broadcaster, or any newswriter, reporter, or

1365
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 5: any you know, talking head on any of these sports

1366
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 5: networks say about him. I honestly don't think he really cares.

1367
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 5: And if he does, I then it does kind of

1368
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 5: feel like he's living in a gilded prison. But it

1369
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 5: appears that he doesn't care, and that I don't know,

1370
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 5: there's something kind of unique and refreshing about that.

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01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 3: I agree one hundred percent. I've said this on the

1372
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 3: show before. Again, if you've been listening to this show

1373
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 3: for several years that we've been doing it, I've been

1374
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 3: critical of Aaron, as I've been critical of many people.

1375
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 3: It's actually one of the things that I've learned about

1376
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 3: myself over the last few years doing this show and

1377
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 3: doing other shows like it is that the more that

1378
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 3: I'm critical of the players and the coaches, which is

1379
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 3: our job. We're doing our job, the less I care

1380
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 3: when other people, and it does happen, are critical of me.

1381
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 4: Cause it's like turn about his fair play.

1382
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 5: Right.

1383
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 3: If I'm going to stand up here and say Aaron

1384
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 3: Rodgers should do this and this and this on the field,

1385
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 3: off the field, whatever, I should be comfortable and not

1386
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 3: care if other people are going to say, well that Jared,

1387
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,799
Speaker 3: he made a terrible pick the other day. His analysis

1388
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 3: of this game was terrible. This guy's an idiot. Like,

1389
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 3: you just have to have that level of nonchalantness. I

1390
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 3: don't know if that's the word nonchalant. Nonchalants, Yeah, there

1391
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 3: you go, there you go. Here're figuring it out on

1392
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 3: the fly here on Saturday morning. You just have to

1393
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 3: have that level of care free And I think that's

1394
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 3: like when I watched Rogers give that interview and the

1395
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 3: reporter asked, hey, you married, He's like yeah, and that

1396
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 3: was it. I did a little research. Apparently he's been

1397
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 3: dating this girl for a few months. December twenty twenty

1398
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 3: four is when he first revealed that he was dating

1399
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 3: a girl named Brittany it was on the McAfee show,

1400
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 3: and I don't want to get into the details of

1401
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 3: his personal life.

1402
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 4: I don't care.

1403
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 3: I think we've reached a point in his career where

1404
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 3: the only thing that matters now is what happens on

1405
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 3: the field. There was a time when the off field

1406
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 3: stuff mattered a lot, especially with the Packers. I think

1407
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:44,480
Speaker 3: with the Jets people just expected a circus. Now in Pittsburgh,

1408
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 3: the only thing that matters is wins and losses. Like

1409
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 3: I think, at this point in his career, all the

1410
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 3: other stuff. We know he's a little bit quirky. We

1411
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 3: know he likes. He's got weird you know, thoughts on aliens.

1412
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 3: By the way, I do too, Like go look at

1413
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 3: the Pyramids and Giza. Those weren't built by humans. We

1414
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 3: can get into that at another time. But I so

1415
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 3: I agree with a lot of the weird stuff that

1416
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 3: Aaron has to say, but I also disagree at this

1417
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 3: point though. The only thing I care about from an

1418
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 3: analysis standpoint is how he meshes on the field and

1419
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 3: how many wins the Steelers have in twenty twenty five.

1420
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 2: Okay, super super fast. I agree with rich a bit,

1421
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 2: and I completely disagree with him at the same time.

1422
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 2: So like, I agree that Aaron Rodgers doesn't specifically care

1423
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 2: about what Jared Smith or Rich Hornberger Ortenberger, or what

1424
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 2: myself has to say about him. But the weird twist

1425
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 2: is he cares about attention as a whole. True, and

1426
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 2: within that, there's Jared Smith, there's rich Hoornberger, there's myself

1427
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: right within that. So it's weird. He doesn't care about individuals,

1428
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 2: but he sure does care about the collective. And that's

1429
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 2: what's strange about him, Like, don't tell me you don't

1430
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 2: care about attention and then do things that are directly

1431
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 2: attention seeking behavior. I don't care about attention. Here's a

1432
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 2: shirtless selfie that I'm posting online. It's like, bro, you

1433
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 2: care about attention, don't act like you don't. That's what's

1434
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 2: so disingenuous about Aaron Rodgers. Got all right, soapbox over, rant,

1435
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 2: quick and painless. Hopefully we've got Rich Ronberger, Penn State

1436
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 2: All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian know

1437
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers doesn't care about us individually, cares about us collectively.

1438
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,240
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Speaker 2: the prop betting market will it trend continue in the

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do this prop it up. The player plays,

1451
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 2: all right, the prop betting market, Jared, we give you

1452
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 2: first dibbs. Where are you taking us?

1453
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 3: Good sir, Well, I'm going to take you to a

1454
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 3: direction that I've taken you many times before. It's been

1455
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 3: relatively profitable this postseason. It's Jalen Williams over four and

1456
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 3: half assist. I feel like I've given this out like

1457
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 3: three straight lead.

1458
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 5: You love it?

1459
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I love this problem and he's gone under

1460
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 3: in two straight games, so we're getting a little bit

1461
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 3: of a discount. And I think the reason I watched

1462
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 3: that entire game start to finish those to toads last night,

1463
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 3: I counted at least three situations where Jalen Williams set

1464
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 3: up a perfect pass and the shot was wide open

1465
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 3: and it was a break. So again, I think a

1466
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,759
Speaker 3: lot of this is dependent on not only Jalen Williams's

1467
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 3: ability to distribute, but also the players he's passing to

1468
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 3: their ability to hit these shots. Now that the scene

1469
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 3: shifts back to OKC role players in general, just shooters

1470
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 3: I think will shoot better at home. So Jalen Williams

1471
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 3: over four and a half assists. It has gone over

1472
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 3: in fourteen of the first seventeen until the last two

1473
01:17:59,439 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 3: that he's gone on.

1474
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 4: I think he goes over in game five.

1475
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 5: All right, give me Tyrese Haliburton, who's averaged eighteen and

1476
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 5: a half better than eighteen and a half points per

1477
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 5: game of these playoffs, including a twenty two point Game

1478
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 5: three and an eighteen point Game four we saw just

1479
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 5: last night. He's been consistent. He's gonna find room to

1480
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 5: attack off the pick and roll the numbers set at

1481
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 5: sixteen and a half per game five. I think that's

1482
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:28,879
Speaker 5: a conservative point projection considering how good he's been, especially

1483
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 5: in this series. Give me the over sixteen and a

1484
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 5: half for Albert.

1485
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go to punk On. You give me

1486
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 2: a Corey Perry over there with the Oilers. I'll take

1487
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 2: his shots on goal over one.

1488
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 5: And a half.

1489
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 2: That's at minus a dollar twenty so far this series,

1490
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,560
Speaker 2: you go each game two shots on goal, followed by three,

1491
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 2: followed by five, followed by four. Now, some of those

1492
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 2: are overtime games. No, it's not setting Stone. We're getting

1493
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 2: another overtime game. But consist over all series long, this

1494
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 2: is what Edmonton does. They get a ton of shots

1495
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 2: on goal. Bob has been amazing. I've been riding Bbrovskis

1496
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 2: to the Promised Land just taking his saves prop over.

1497
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: But you gotta pay a tax. Now, you gotta pay

1498
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 2: double tax. Really, it's inflated to twenty seven and a

1499
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 2: half saves and then there's juice on top of that.

1500
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 2: So I'm looking for another way to go, sort of

1501
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: play the Bob saves instead of going with Bob saves. Yeah,

1502
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 2: give me a Edmonton shots on goal and specifically Corey

1503
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: Perry over one and a half. That's what I'll go with.

1504
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 3: I like it. I like it, so it's it's a

1505
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 3: really good point about how you have to keep an eye,

1506
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 3: especially in these playoff series that are long, and I

1507
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 3: think both of these series are gonna go at least

1508
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 3: six games. I think NHL is the Champons to go seven.

1509
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 3: You have to be willing to ride the wave. And

1510
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 3: what do I mean by that, Like the Jaylen Williams thing,

1511
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,600
Speaker 3: the saves thing, like what Brian's talking about. You like

1512
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 3: something and then you get priced out of it, don't

1513
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 3: chase it. There's other things for you to look at.

1514
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 3: You have to show that discipline when you're in this

1515
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 3: prop market. There's so many prompts. If something moves considerably

1516
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 3: up or down, you have to be willing to buy

1517
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 3: or sell just based off the number, because what's really

1518
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 3: the difference between one game to the next. Same theme.

1519
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough too, because you're like, it's one more saved, right,

1520
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 2: It's like that that could mean a loss? Yeah, all right,

1521
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 2: comeing up next? Does this team run it back?

1522
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 6: Oh?

1523
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 2: Good morning, happy Saturday to you. The original adjustment was unneeded.

1524
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 2: But the readjustment, Oh it paid dividends. We'll get to

1525
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 2: that in a couple of seconds. Hey, you can stream

1526
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,400
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1527
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1528
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,240
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1529
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,719
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1530
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:54,799
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1531
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,960
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1532
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,559
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1533
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 2: Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app and it'll always pop

1534
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 2: up at the top of your screen. Okay, so we

1535
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 2: get to the double Big lineup. You know you got

1536
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 2: to use your your you know, like your Randy Blig

1537
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 2: Lamb of God singing Double Big lineup. So it was

1538
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 2: such a stupid adjustment to start this series where Mark Dagnall,

1539
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: the OKC head coach, is like, you know what, why

1540
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 2: don't we start Caseen Wallace and just get out rebounded

1541
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 2: by seventeen in game one? Instead of going with Chet

1542
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 2: Holmgren and Isaiah Hartenstein. Let's just change it up for

1543
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 2: game one. And it didn't work out, and they stuck

1544
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 2: with it for the first three games. They reverted back

1545
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 2: in Game four last night to the original double big lineup,

1546
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 2: and it worked out. They're what plus ten in the

1547
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: rebounding category, So you'd have to assume it's gonna be

1548
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 2: the same old stuff. It's gonna be Game five, it's

1549
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 2: gonna be the same starting lineup as Game four. I'm

1550
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 2: just surprised it took this long to revert back because

1551
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 2: it just didn't work out, and I thought it was

1552
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 2: an unnecessary adjustment. You're supposed to dictate terms. You're the

1553
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 2: team that's been historically great, best point differential of any

1554
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 2: team in the history of the NBA, and you're adjusting

1555
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 2: before game one even tips off. It was just weird.

1556
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 2: But he figured it out finally, and I thought it

1557
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 2: paid dividends. Last night. You saw a big offensive rebound

1558
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 2: in crunch time with both bigs on the floor where

1559
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,640
Speaker 2: Hertenstein tipped it out to Holmgrin and he tipped it

1560
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 2: out to SGA and they got some points off of

1561
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 2: that offensive rebound. So I think it's helped. I'm just

1562
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 2: surprised he adjusted before game one.

1563
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, we talked about this last week and what

1564
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 5: I said holds to this moment, which is, you know,

1565
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 5: when you switch up your strategy. Sometimes you'll do it

1566
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 5: prior to a game, prior to a series in this case,

1567
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,959
Speaker 5: or sometimes you'll do it midstream. Sometimes it'll be in football,

1568
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 5: the sport. I came from going the tunnel at halftime,

1569
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 5: head to the locker room, get on the whiteboard. This

1570
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 5: is working, this isn't working. We're going to tweak some

1571
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 5: things in the second half. Sometimes those tweaks are things

1572
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 5: you've done and their routine and their rote and you

1573
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 5: have a lot of experience doing them. Sometimes you're getting

1574
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 5: a little experimental, and I think that really depends on

1575
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 5: how desperate the times are. There's no desperation early in

1576
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 5: a series. So it was just such a like, such

1577
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 5: an odd decision. I'm glad that OKAC settled in and

1578
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 5: they looked at the situation and said, hey, you know,

1579
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 5: we kind of got to dance with the date we

1580
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 5: brought to the prom here, which is we've got these

1581
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 5: two bigs. They're rim protectors, they obviously add some offensive prowess.

1582
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 5: Let's keep our foot to the pedal here and play

1583
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:06,560
Speaker 5: thunder basketball. And it's worked. I think it's it's probably

1584
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 5: going to be the lineup in alignment you're going to

1585
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 5: see the rest of the way and you know, Okay, yeah,

1586
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 5: you know you could lose, there's no doubt about it.

1587
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 5: But it almost feels like I'd rather lose that way

1588
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 5: if you want to look at it in terms of

1589
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 5: worst case scenario, if you lose this series, which way

1590
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 5: are you going to look back and regret less? And

1591
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 5: I think the plan they're currently employing is the one

1592
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 5: that they would regret less.

1593
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about this last week. I remember I

1594
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:41,839
Speaker 3: did the DJ kalled impression you played yourself because it

1595
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 3: just it just didn't make sense. It didn't just like

1596
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 3: why you were a historically good team rolling through the playoffs.

1597
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 3: You won the Western Conference Finals in five games with

1598
01:24:54,320 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 3: this lineup. You slayed the Dragon Nikole Ayolkich with this

1599
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 3: line up, and then you faced a lesser team by

1600
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 3: all accounts, by the market, accounts, by every you know,

1601
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 3: pundit expert in Okay, so he's going to roll in

1602
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 3: this series. Okay, see in five? Okay, see in five?

1603
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 3: And what did you do in game one? He just

1604
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 3: completely changed everything because of I don't know, some on

1605
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,600
Speaker 3: off number that maybe caught you off guard. Here's what

1606
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 3: I know. Having two bigs in the NBA is a

1607
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 3: rarity these days, so much so that we consider this lineup, which,

1608
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 3: by the way, I know it's two bigs, but it's

1609
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 3: a power forward.

1610
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 5: In a center.

1611
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 3: That's what it is. Hartenstein's the center. Homegroom's the power forward, right,

1612
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 3: a little more of the little more of the wing player.

1613
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 3: Hartenstein's the big bulk muscle. That's just a normal lineup

1614
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 3: in the NBA. Why would you go away from that? Oh,

1615
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 3: you're worried about Indiana running up and down and you

1616
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,799
Speaker 3: have the advantage. You're the best team, you're the favorite.

1617
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:59,679
Speaker 3: Make them adjust, And I think Dagnall eventually came around.

1618
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 3: He did. I'm just curious, Like I wanted to be

1619
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 3: in the room when they decided this. It's kind of

1620
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 3: like the same people in the room the meatball sub

1621
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 3: with the next coaching search. Yeah, Like it's just like

1622
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 3: I want, I want to be a fly on the wall.

1623
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 3: When Dagnault comes into the room, it's like, all right, guys,

1624
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,799
Speaker 3: I've got this crazy idea. You know, this awesome lineup

1625
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 3: that's gotten us all the way to the finals in

1626
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 3: a historic run. Yeah, we're gonna throw that out before

1627
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 3: Game one, before we even put the ball in the

1628
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 3: air for the first game and we're gonna do something different, Like,

1629
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 3: I bet the assistants were like, see hi, Like is

1630
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 3: he taken what Aaron Rodgers was taking in the desert

1631
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 3: during his darkness retreat? Like, what's going on here? Cooler heads,

1632
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 3: sanity prevailed.

1633
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. I wonder if I would love to

1634
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 2: have heard those conversations me too, where I wonder if

1635
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 2: dag Nault brought it up and nobody checked him. They're

1636
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 2: just like yes, man, likeah, yeah, let's roll with that.

1637
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 2: And now Dagnault thinks, why didn't you guys tell me no.

1638
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 5: That all about?

1639
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 2: But you know you mentioned DJ Khalid he was over

1640
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 2: there the other night at the Stanley Cup final. Yeah,

1641
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 2: it's always better. They always spruce his stuff up. We

1642
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 2: need DJ Khalen for Game five of the NBA Finals here,

1643
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 2: you know, the man in demand. Okay, So if you

1644
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,759
Speaker 2: look at Game five in the series as a whole

1645
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 2: in the NBA, we'll look at the NHL as well.

1646
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 2: But if you look at the NBA from here on out,

1647
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 2: it feels is it an overreaction to you or is

1648
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 2: it an appropriate reaction? Where it just feels like, okay, okay, see,

1649
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 2: they scaled the mountain last night, they got over the hump,

1650
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 2: they got Game four, it's tied, best of three series. Okay,

1651
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 2: see has home court pacers are toast. It just feels

1652
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 2: like most people are thinking that do you think rich

1653
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 2: that their chances are that bad going forward? Like no chance?

1654
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 2: Know how for the Pacers. I don't know that it

1655
01:27:58,560 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 2: goes that far for them.

1656
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I think okay, see, as we

1657
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:09,440
Speaker 5: saw in Game four, they they they have some issues.

1658
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 5: You know, they're there, their shooters go cold, their defensive

1659
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 5: structure at times gets a little slippery. Things get away

1660
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 5: from them. I I this isn't even series for good reason.

1661
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 5: It's and it's not just because OKAC isn't following the

1662
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 5: script perfectly. It's also because Indiana is a solid basketball team,

1663
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 5: I mean, and every step of the way they have

1664
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 5: overcome adversity. I think that's a part of this conversation

1665
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 5: that's usually missing when we talk about sports because it's

1666
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:46,759
Speaker 5: a very data driven zeitgeist that we live in. Everybody

1667
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 5: loves numbers. They're available to us at all times. We

1668
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 5: now have artificial intelligence using algorithms and and verbal and

1669
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 5: visual patterns to help us understand things better better. But

1670
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 5: this is this is a human interaction. At the end

1671
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 5: of the day. You have guys who have a bad

1672
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,719
Speaker 5: night's sleep and wake up and have a bad day shooting.

1673
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 5: You have guys who, you know, get into an argument

1674
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 5: with their girlfriend or their fiance or their wife the

1675
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 5: you know, the night before the game or the day

1676
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 5: of the game, and you know, or and maybe not

1677
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 5: even specifically like personal issues, but like you also just

1678
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 5: have nights where, like all human beings, you just feel off.

1679
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 5: You can't shake a funk. Maybe that was the case

1680
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 5: for SGA in Game four until the fourth quarter when

1681
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 5: he finally snapped out of it. You know, tiredness can

1682
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 5: be a factor. There are so many different factors. It's

1683
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 5: a human game. And so when I look at the

1684
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 5: team that's been more battle tested, when I look at

1685
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 5: the team that expectations have been lower and they've seemed

1686
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 5: to exceed them time and time again through this playoff run,

1687
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 5: that is the Indiana Pacers. And so here they are.

1688
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 5: They've leveled out the ser Nobody really expected them to

1689
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,759
Speaker 5: be here. And I don't want to say they're playing

1690
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 5: with house money because I know, Brian know who literally throws.

1691
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 2: I'll come after.

1692
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 5: But when you when you have when you have a

1693
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 5: little bit less to lose, when you can be a

1694
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 5: little bit more cavalier, when there is this feeling of like,

1695
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 5: you know what, we're gonna lay it all out on

1696
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 5: the line. You should anyways, but it's a little bit

1697
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 5: easier to humiliate yourself trying your hardest when you're the

1698
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 5: unexpected underdog who's taking haymaker swings at the already crown champion.

1699
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 5: When when you're starting this series the okay, see thunder

1700
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 5: that that that place that the Pacers are in, that's

1701
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 5: a really good mental age if they take advantage of it.

1702
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:55,680
Speaker 3: The Cleveland Cavalier. Maybe how about that Cavalier. Now that

1703
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 3: this has been I'm trying to think back and I

1704
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 3: do were called because I was looking at this the

1705
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 3: other day. There has been there has been a relatively

1706
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 3: recent year where we've had both NBA and NHL championship

1707
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 3: series go the distance. Can any of you guess which

1708
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 3: year it was?

1709
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,759
Speaker 2: Without which year they both went the distance, both.

1710
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 3: Went seven games. Both NBA and NHL Stanley Cup Final

1711
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 3: NBA finals both went seven games.

1712
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 5: I couldn't tell you.

1713
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 2: We all we all were alive for it.

1714
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 3: Barely, but we all were alive for it.

1715
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 2: Okay, man, that's uh yeah, I don't know off the

1716
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 2: top of my head. You know, I couldn't tell you

1717
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 2: We're going.

1718
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 3: Four Knicks Rockets Rangers come out? How about that? They

1719
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 3: both involved New York teams too. It was also the

1720
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 3: year that was also the crazy If you guys remember

1721
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 3: that thirty for thirty with OJ, that was the same

1722
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:57,759
Speaker 3: situation during that Knicks Rockets game that the OJ Bronco

1723
01:31:58,080 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 3: Chase was happening.

1724
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 4: But just a weird year. Ninety four it was an

1725
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 4: awesome year for me. I was eight years old.

1726
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 3: I got to watch my favorite team, the Range. I

1727
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 3: was a big I was actually a bigger hockey fan

1728
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 3: growing up than I was basketball fan. I kind of

1729
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 3: switched gears a little bit in college, more so to

1730
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 3: the basketball game, but hockey was my go to. I

1731
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 3: played goalie. I was big Mike Richler fan. So that

1732
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 3: ninety four year was awesome. But this has been just

1733
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 3: an incredible year for and I think both series have

1734
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 3: a chance to go seven. I think one of the

1735
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 3: two probably will. I don't think the NBA one will.

1736
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 3: But on the NHL side, like that house money vibe,

1737
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 3: there is no house money in that series. There's just

1738
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 3: money period. Like these teams are just scrapping and clawing

1739
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 3: and gouging eyeballs out to get across the finish line.

1740
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 3: And I think Edmonton has the edge. I do, and

1741
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a big edge. I think it's

1742
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 3: the runner up theory on full display. What's the runner

1743
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 3: up theory? I developed this theory in twenty fifteen. I

1744
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 3: was fortunate enough to cover the Mets Royals World Series

1745
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 3: that year covering local news in New York City, and

1746
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 3: the year prior the Royals loss to the Giants in

1747
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:12,759
Speaker 3: Game seven, Madison Bumgardner went crazy at Kansas City's field.

1748
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,600
Speaker 3: The Royals lost the World Series in Game seven, and

1749
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 3: I remember interviewing the Royals players before the series started,

1750
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 3: and I remember it wasn't me, but another reporter asked

1751
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 3: about that series, what did it feel like to watch

1752
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:27,639
Speaker 3: the Giants win the World Series on your turf? And

1753
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 3: I remember the looks in the player's eyes when they

1754
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 3: were describing the feeling, and I was like, yeah, they're

1755
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 3: not going to let that happen again. And they won

1756
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 3: the series in five games. It was not very co

1757
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 3: it was actually the first couple games were close, but

1758
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 3: then the Royals kind of pulled away late. That's how

1759
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 3: I feel about the Oilers in this series. That's how

1760
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 3: I felt about the Panthers last year after going to

1761
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:51,640
Speaker 3: Vegas and losing, they came back the next year and one.

1762
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 3: I think that's the edge I see for Edmonton in

1763
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 3: this series. It's not a big edge, but it's that

1764
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 3: runner up theory. After watching the Anthers hoist the Cup

1765
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 3: in Game seven last year, I think Edmonton's got that

1766
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 3: just slight edge. So house money, no, but runner up theory, yes. Yeah.

1767
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 2: It's kind of funny because Rick Carlisle, the Pacers head coach,

1768
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 2: he looks at a best of seven series like different

1769
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 2: chapters in a book, like they're completely separate chapters. And

1770
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:24,639
Speaker 2: I think that's even more so in hockey right where

1771
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 2: you think Florida lost this gut wrenching Game four, they

1772
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 2: had a three to zero lead, they got it to overtime,

1773
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 2: then they lost that. They found a way to lose

1774
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 2: in overtime on their home ice, and you think, oh man,

1775
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 2: that's just so draining, and in hockey it's just like, no, man,

1776
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 2: throw your stuff on, let's gear up for Game five.

1777
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 5: You know.

1778
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 2: I feel like it's even less so in hockey, where

1779
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 2: there's more of a tendency in the NBA Finals, where

1780
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 2: the previous game might have a bigger impact on the

1781
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 2: next game. I feel like hockey, it's like, bro, we

1782
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 2: started zero zero literal for the next game, and there's

1783
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 2: not that much carryover from the previous one. I'll say this,

1784
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 2: I think the tricky thing about betting and in the

1785
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 2: NBA Finals this is on display. I don't think at

1786
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 2: this stage, okay sheet OKAC should be this healthy of

1787
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 2: a favorite to win the series. They're minus six twenty five,

1788
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 2: minus six twenty five. They are overwhelming favorites to win

1789
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 2: this series. It's I don't think they should be that

1790
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 2: huge of a favorite. I get that they should be favored.

1791
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 2: They'd be the best team all season, and that was

1792
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 2: the game to get for the Pacers. You're at home

1793
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:42,680
Speaker 2: game four, okay See, can't buy a three and you

1794
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 2: let it slip away. I don't think Oka See should

1795
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 2: be favored by this much. But in order to bet

1796
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 2: the Pacers, you have to, in my opinion, truly believe

1797
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:57,879
Speaker 2: there is a very legitimate shot that they win the series,

1798
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 2: and I don't believe that. It's like you're caught in between.

1799
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 2: I don't think OKAC should be favored by this much.

1800
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 2: But I can't run to the betting window and bet

1801
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 2: the Pacers because I don't believe there's a very legitimate

1802
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 2: shot that they're gonna win this series. Is there a shot? Sure, yeah,

1803
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:16,560
Speaker 2: but very legitimate.

1804
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: No.

1805
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 2: So it's like, all right, that's a non play, Like

1806
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 2: that sucks. I want to take advantage of a line

1807
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 2: that I think is off, But as far as who

1808
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 2: wins the series, I don't think there is a way

1809
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 2: to play that.

1810
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm having a heart like again, and it's an

1811
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 8: even series, so it's very easy to get sort of

1812
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 8: lost in the minutia of like falling in love with

1813
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 8: a side.

1814
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 5: But I'll say some nice things about the Thunder and

1815
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 5: then I'll say some nice things about the Indiana Pacers,

1816
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,839
Speaker 5: because there are really good aspects of both of these teams.

1817
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 5: You know, Sga at home has been one of the

1818
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:57,640
Speaker 5: most potent scorers of the postseason. He plays like an

1819
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 5: MVP in front of his OKC crowd. They play smothering

1820
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 5: defense as a team they have balanced secondary scoring. When

1821
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 5: they're calling players off the bench, they contribute, and that's

1822
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 5: what you need. You need guys who can sit and

1823
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 5: then they can rise to the occasion and make shots.

1824
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 5: But then you look at the Pacers and you say, look,

1825
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 5: they've been pretty dominant at home too through the course

1826
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 5: of the postseason, and that's going to play into an

1827
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:29,520
Speaker 5: advantage in this series. And then you look at Haliburton

1828
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 5: and you see his playmaking ability and his clutch playmaking

1829
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:37,600
Speaker 5: ability in several series, in several games already this postseason.

1830
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 5: And then you want to talk about bench step, but

1831
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 5: also the tactical deployment of that bench from Carlisle. He

1832
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 5: makes substitutions in good moments like we haven't yet in

1833
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 5: the Battle of the head coaches really given the edge

1834
01:37:57,000 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 5: to Okay, see this entire series so far because Rick

1835
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 5: Carlisle has really felt like he's called mostly the right

1836
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 5: shots so far. So Look, it's a great series. These

1837
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 5: are the right teams facing off against each other. I

1838
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 5: don't think anybody wanted this series. It's kind of like

1839
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 5: the series we didn't know we needed we're getting and

1840
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 5: I hope it goes to seven because I'm legitimately enjoying it.

1841
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, what Brian just described is why gambling is so hard.

1842
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 3: Like that, that's it right there. Everyone watching this series

1843
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 3: knows Indiana's got a puncher's chance because they just they're

1844
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 3: like that prize fighter at the last end of his

1845
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 3: career that's got one good punch left. Like, you know,

1846
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 3: they've got a puncher's chance to win Game five. But

1847
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 3: we don't think they're gonna win Game five. We think

1848
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City's gonna win Game five. So it's one thing

1849
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 3: to think it could happen, but it's another thing to

1850
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,599
Speaker 3: actually risk your hard earned dollars on it. That's why

1851
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 3: I love gambling. Because all I've heard all week, for

1852
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 3: the last two weeks since Indiana one Game one, this

1853
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 3: has been the prevailing take on the average talking head

1854
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 3: show about basketball or sports in general. The Pacers are undervalued,

1855
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 3: team of Destiny, underrated, feisty underdog. That's great, then go

1856
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 3: bet them. All I've heard for the last two weeks

1857
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 3: Pacers are undervalued. Guess what this team that's the Team

1858
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:35,559
Speaker 3: of Destiny. Last night, you could have bet them at

1859
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 3: two to one to win the series. The Team of

1860
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:40,680
Speaker 3: Destiny plus two hundred to win the series. Well, now

1861
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:42,559
Speaker 3: you can get them at a much bigger price. But

1862
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 3: it just feels like a lot of the people that

1863
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 3: do this for a living don't understand that there is

1864
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 3: a way for you to back up your opinion with

1865
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:55,719
Speaker 3: your hard earned cash. That's why I love and respect

1866
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 3: any show that not only gives their opinions but also

1867
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,679
Speaker 3: gives their bet their bets, and they're wagers because they're

1868
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 3: actually gonna back up their opinion with their money. I

1869
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 3: can't bet, okay, see, I can't bet Indiana to win

1870
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 3: this series. And and you're you're you're definitely right, Brian, Like,

1871
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 3: there's a there's a puncher's chance, but I don't think

1872
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 3: they can get it done.

1873
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1874
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 3: I mean they're plus three thirty three to win in

1875
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 3: Game five. They're gonna be two to one in Game six,

1876
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 3: just like they were last night when they go back home,

1877
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 3: and it'll be another plus three hundred, plus three fifty

1878
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 3: underdog in Game seven. They have to win two of

1879
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 3: those games in order to win the series as a

1880
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 3: two to one underdog at home and a plus three

1881
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 3: hundred or longer underdog on the road. I just I

1882
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 3: just don't see it.

1883
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be tough. The counter to that is

1884
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:44,719
Speaker 2: they've done it in this series already, right, but it's

1885
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:46,799
Speaker 2: gonna be tough for in you know, five through seven.

1886
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 2: If there is a seven, might be five through six.

1887
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:51,840
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Speaker 2: you a stat that'll blow your freaking mind, and then

1909
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 2: we will get to the countdown buffet.

1910
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 5: Huh.

1911
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 2: You can load up on whatever you want. Okay. So

1912
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 2: this is a stat that was crazy to me. So

1913
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 2: I keep track of all these prop bets in the

1914
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:18,599
Speaker 2: NBA Finals, So BETMGM puts out all these props for

1915
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 2: player points, player assists, rebounds, three point shots.

1916
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:23,719
Speaker 5: Right.

1917
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 2: I don't keep track of the combo stats because they're

1918
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:31,680
Speaker 2: within these individual stats, but I track all of them,

1919
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 2: and so it stood out to me. If you look

1920
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 2: at OKC, all right, they have thirty four individual player

1921
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 2: prop bets that are offered by BETMGM for Game four

1922
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 2: last night. So of these thirty four, they were their

1923
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 2: record collectively was nine and twenty five to the over. Wow,

1924
01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 2: And they won that game, like no one's going over

1925
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 2: their stuff. They had three guys go over their point total,

1926
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:08,439
Speaker 2: two guys went over their assist total, three guys went

1927
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:12,720
Speaker 2: over rebounding totals. No one went over their three point props. Nobody,

1928
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:18,320
Speaker 2: nobody for OKC, And it makes sense they didn't share

1929
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 2: the ball. Their assist numbers were down. Chet Holmgren had

1930
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 2: fifteen rebounds, so it wasn't like a group effort rebounding

1931
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 2: game and they couldn't hit a three. They went nine

1932
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 2: and twenty five to the over in individual player props

1933
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 2: and they still won that game. That is crazy. Good

1934
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 2: luck finding another instance of that happening.

1935
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you won't, you really won't. You know.

1936
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 5: I played multiple sports growing up, basketball being one of them,

1937
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 5: and I'll kind of work around the horn and talk

1938
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 5: about like the fundamentals that keep you afloat in games

1939
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 5: where things aren't working out for you. I played lacrosse,

1940
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 5: and anybody in this country who played lacrosse at any

1941
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 5: level knows that ground balls are the most important stat.

1942
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 5: It's like one of those one of those lesser thought

1943
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 5: about stats. But when the ball hits the ground, the

1944
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 5: team that has more ground balls and it's a stat

1945
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 5: that not even every team really keeps. That's a team

1946
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 5: that's gonna win because, look, there are checks that lead

1947
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 5: to loose balls, there are miscatches, you know, shots on

1948
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 5: net that bounce off a post. The team that has

1949
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:31,640
Speaker 5: the highest amount of effort gathering up those second chance possessions,

1950
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 5: they're typically gonna have better results in lacrosse. In football,

1951
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 5: it always felt like it came back to the run game.

1952
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:41,799
Speaker 5: If you can control the line of scrimmage, it didn't

1953
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 5: matter how flying of high flying of an offense you

1954
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 5: are facing against. If you could win the battle in

1955
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 5: the trenches and you can win the run game, you

1956
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 5: could control the tempo of the game, and you could

1957
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 5: exert your will on even the best receiver trio that

1958
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:00,680
Speaker 5: you're facing against. You could slow the pace of a

1959
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:02,959
Speaker 5: game as long as you can control the line of scrimmage.

1960
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 5: So be great upfront, be great in the run game.

1961
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 5: In basketball, rebounding the control the controllable. Now I understand

1962
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 5: there's other players under the glass. I understand that you're

1963
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 5: elbowing and you're fighting, and you're battling for body positions.

1964
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:22,759
Speaker 5: So it's not only on you, butund rebounding and making

1965
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:26,160
Speaker 5: your free throws. By and large, that effort or that

1966
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 5: concentration are things that you can control and okay, see

1967
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 5: for as bad as they were in a couple of

1968
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 5: different statistical categories, three pointers being the most glaring, they

1969
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 5: were great at the free throw line when when they

1970
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 5: had an opportunity to grab a free shot, they took it,

1971
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 5: and they shot at almost a ninety percent make rate.

1972
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:51,520
Speaker 5: And in terms of rebounding, the out rebounded the Pacers

1973
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 5: by ten rebounds total offensive glass twelve to seven. So,

1974
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:00,240
Speaker 5: I mean, when you have numbers like that, stare you

1975
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 5: in the face on paper and shake Gilders. Alexander has

1976
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 5: the type of fourth quarter he has. Yeah, I mean

1977
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden you can squint at it

1978
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,560
Speaker 5: and say, yeah, I could see why they won. I

1979
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 5: could see why the Pacers folded.

1980
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 3: You know what. That's that reminds me of This happens

1981
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 3: in the NFL every year, where people love to bet

1982
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 3: overs on win totals and people love the bet overs

1983
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 3: in general, and the mindset there, the psychological mindset is

1984
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 3: once I reach that threshold, it's done, but BET's over,

1985
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 3: Whereas the under you're never really out of it until

1986
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 3: the game or the season is really over over, right,

1987
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 3: You're not.

1988
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 2: It's not over.

1989
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 4: Till it's under.

1990
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 3: It's not under till it's over. So in the NFL,

1991
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,000
Speaker 3: if you add up all of the win totals together,

1992
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:53,040
Speaker 3: there's significantly more wins than actual games played. And I'm

1993
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:54,800
Speaker 3: sure you and Crack will talk about this when you

1994
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 3: get closer to the NFL season Jeff as well. Everyone

1995
01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 3: loves about the overs, but there's not the it's impossible

1996
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 3: for all these teams to go over. There's only so

1997
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:03,720
Speaker 3: many games and they all play each other. Same thing

1998
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:07,880
Speaker 3: in the NBA with these props, the if you can't

1999
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 3: bet over points on everyone, Like if you add it

2000
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:13,879
Speaker 3: up the point totals for all the props for OKAC,

2001
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 3: and you add it up all the numbers like SGA

2002
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 3: thirty four, Jayla Williams twenty, whatever, like it'd be like

2003
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty points in the game. Like you

2004
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 3: just can't get to that level. But the prevailing thought

2005
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 3: with props is overs always, especially in the public's mind,

2006
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:33,639
Speaker 3: but in reality, most of the props stay under. Same

2007
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 3: thing in the Super Bowl. If you go and look

2008
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 3: at the Super Bowl, everybody wants to bet overs, on everything.

2009
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 3: But there's only so many first downs and receiving yards

2010
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 3: and you know, rushing attempts that can happen in a

2011
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 3: game that the majority of them stay under. But there

2012
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 3: is this prevailing mindset amongst the average better that they

2013
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 3: want overs because they want to match the number and

2014
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 3: then be done. It's over a I'm good. So that's

2015
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 3: what that reminds me of Brian, Like there's this always

2016
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 3: this lean towards overs because of that, but in reality,

2017
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 3: the numbers tend to skew it. Like I bet if

2018
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 3: you added up those props for all of the games,

2019
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 3: especially the games where it was close, like not a

2020
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 3: blowout in one direction, or actually, to be fair, the

2021
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:18,760
Speaker 3: blowouts might even be more unders because the players sit

2022
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. But I bet if you added

2023
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 3: up all of the props for the season, especially in

2024
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 3: the postseason, I bet the majority of them probably stay under.

2025
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:27,839
Speaker 4: Especially in the scoring department.

2026
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a lot. I'm just peeking at it

2027
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:34,360
Speaker 2: real fast. Go back to Game two and the Thunder

2028
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:38,680
Speaker 2: scored one hundred and twenty three points and most of

2029
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:42,759
Speaker 2: their unders hit exactly like that's a lot of they're

2030
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 2: three pointers, like lou Dort hit four of them. I

2031
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 2: don't think anybody else went over. No one else went

2032
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 2: over their three pointers rebounding. That was another bad rebounding game.

2033
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 2: The first two games for the Thunder were bad rebounding

2034
01:48:56,040 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 2: games individually and collectively. And yeah, the points props. You know,

2035
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 2: if SGA drops thirty four and well, there's not gonna

2036
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:07,759
Speaker 2: be a whole lot more players going over their individual numbers.

2037
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's pretty interesting something to keep in mind. Okay,

2038
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:14,759
Speaker 2: So we have numerous topics and very little time. Okay,

2039
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 2: so we're opening the Fox Sports Radio Countdown presented by

2040
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 2: Bett MGM buffet. It's very worthy buffet. We got to

2041
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:23,599
Speaker 2: shortened the name of the buffet.

2042
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:24,720
Speaker 3: We're short on.

2043
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:28,360
Speaker 2: Time here, the Mega buffet. Yeah, the buffet is open.

2044
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 2: Over the countdown buffet is open. So I'll give you

2045
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 2: a couple of topics to pick from and then we'll

2046
01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 2: chop it up very quick.

2047
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 3: Shrew.

2048
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:46,559
Speaker 2: Yes, So you can either choose dwindling interest or attempted murder, which.

2049
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 3: Will so we don't really know what the topics are.

2050
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 3: We just get these ramah.

2051
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like this.

2052
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 2: All right, what do you like?

2053
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 5: You choose rich, you choose Okay, I'm gonna take dwindling interest.

2054
01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 2: What is yeah, that would be the U Open. Are

2055
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:06,000
Speaker 2: you more interested or less interested in this year's Open

2056
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 2: because we don't have the big names at the top

2057
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:08,679
Speaker 2: of the leader.

2058
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:13,680
Speaker 5: Board without question less interested. I think golf has cut

2059
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 5: off its nose to spite its face. They had opportunities

2060
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 5: for a long time, the PGA to make right by

2061
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 5: the players, to help them become the influencers that they

2062
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:27,839
Speaker 5: clearly are. We've seen in the Netflix show that's followed

2063
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 5: some of their lives. I can't tell you how many

2064
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:34,080
Speaker 5: arguments players have had with the PGA over being able

2065
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 5: to use video of them that is shot by the

2066
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:44,639
Speaker 5: PGA in their own social and they're not allowed to

2067
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 5: to promote the sport to promote themselves. It's ridiculous, and

2068
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 5: I mean that's just one example of the many ways

2069
01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 5: that golf has tried to fillbuster the golfers from rising

2070
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 5: and making more money and earning more acclaim and making

2071
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 5: sport more popular because they never wanted to take their

2072
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 5: boot off their neck. Well Live came along and really

2073
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 5: blew up the sport. Now that has created a lack

2074
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 5: of interest nationally because people drew political lines with that

2075
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,719
Speaker 5: in certain cases. And then also when you look at

2076
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 5: the majors, you have one major issue, no Tiger and

2077
01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:25,799
Speaker 5: they never replaced them. They never found the next Tiger Woods.

2078
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:30,720
Speaker 5: So unless you have a superstar come by man and

2079
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 5: you're in short supply, you're going to struggle. And I

2080
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 5: think golf is at that crossroads right now.

2081
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:40,599
Speaker 3: See I have a different view of this because I

2082
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 3: love playing golf and I've been to a lot of

2083
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:47,680
Speaker 3: these tournament, especially at the lower level, like not like

2084
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 3: the majors, but I've been to a lot of bunch

2085
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:53,719
Speaker 3: of like random other tournaments, and I appreciate how good

2086
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 3: these players are and how hard golf is. And I

2087
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 3: know it's not the most athletic when you like watch

2088
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 3: the players. He's John Daney with his gut hanging out,

2089
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 3: drinking beers, and this guy drives it through and fifty

2090
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:08,160
Speaker 3: yards like, oh, anyone can do it. Yeah, go try

2091
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:09,840
Speaker 3: to do that and then tell me how you do

2092
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:13,479
Speaker 3: like it. It's such a difficult sport that I and

2093
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 3: I'm so attached to sports in general that I respect

2094
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 3: how good these golfers are.

2095
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 4: Even though you're rich.

2096
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 3: Is right, there is no Tiger Woods Scotti, Scheffler doesn't

2097
01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 3: have that persona. Even the guys that are at the

2098
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:29,040
Speaker 3: top of their game right now, like Rory, It's just

2099
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:31,679
Speaker 3: there's something a little off about some of their appeal

2100
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 3: to the masses. But because I respect how hard golf is,

2101
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 3: I still am interested in it, and also I can

2102
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 3: bet on it well.

2103
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 2: I yeah, I think a golf like music, you know.

2104
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 2: For me, I'm not just a hits guy. I'm an

2105
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:50,880
Speaker 2: albums guy, like especially the metal albums. I know, the

2106
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 2: like the B side songs. Some B side songs are amazing.

2107
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:58,439
Speaker 2: But if you give me nothing but B side songs, hmm,

2108
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:00,479
Speaker 2: it's like that's not great album.

2109
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:01,000
Speaker 5: Right.

2110
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about golf. Like, I'm fine with

2111
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 2: the B side players if you will, like that, the

2112
01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 2: mega names, But you gotta give me a name here

2113
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 2: or there or I'm gonna lose some interest. I'm not

2114
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:13,080
Speaker 2: asking for the best of the best. Give me something,

2115
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:13,639
Speaker 2: Give me some.

2116
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 3: Here's the top eight right now. None of these guys

2117
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 3: catch your eyes. Sam Burns heard of him, JJ Spahn,

2118
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:20,960
Speaker 3: Victor Hoblin heard of him. Adam Scott heard of him,

2119
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 3: Ben Griffin, Victor Perez, Thurston, Lawrence Russell, Henley Brooks Kepka.

2120
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:27,479
Speaker 3: I had the interesting Brooks Keptka wins it, I think,

2121
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:29,719
Speaker 3: especially after the live stuff. But you're right in.

2122
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 2: General, yeah, or you gotta see Brooks get a little

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01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:35,599
Speaker 2: bit higher. That's certainly the biggest name.

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01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:37,639
Speaker 3: That's the only major winner in the group.

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01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 2: Really Yeah, I was thinking storyline, so okay over low

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01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:44,559
Speaker 2: on time, So shout out Caitlin Clark. Don't call it comeback.

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01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 2: She's back, but the Indiana favorite fever. She'll be taking

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01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:52,719
Speaker 2: on the Liberty today. Also fan and sports better bliss.

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Speaker 2: That would be the College World Series. You guys into

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01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 2: this thing? You watching it, you're betting on it.

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01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 4: No, I think there is some value, but I just don't.

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01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 3: I don't watch it enough to just dive in and

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01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:08,640
Speaker 3: in the end and just start firing wagers. And I

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01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:10,680
Speaker 3: getting wagers from other people that they send me and

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01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:11,679
Speaker 3: I just bet them blindly.

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Speaker 2: There you go. That might be the way to do it,

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01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 2: but I feel like that I'm just not in the

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01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:21,479
Speaker 2: college baseball mode. But I'm totally into the College World Series.

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01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 2: I love the super Regionals, but I feel like, oh man,

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01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:27,719
Speaker 2: this is cool, but I don't know what I'm doing.

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01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:31,480
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like showing showing up to Saratoga

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01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 2: and seeing the horses, and I'm like, I want to bet,

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01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 2: but I have no idea how or why A cool event.

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01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I'm not. I don't watch it during

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01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:39,600
Speaker 3: the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no doubt. And uh, there you go. There's

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Speaker 2: the buffet for you. How do you like it? Do

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Speaker 2: you have enough to eat?

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Speaker 5: Stuffed?

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Speaker 2: We've got Rich Honberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith

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Speaker 2: FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian no Hey. Shortly after the show,

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Speaker 2: off the air. All right, coming up next, rapid fi ya.

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Speaker 2: We each have at least three picks for you. We'll

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Speaker 2: share them with you rapid fire style, including maybe some unders.

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Speaker 2: After that impassioned speech, Jared just can't give you all over.

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Speaker 2: we got some picks to make.

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Speaker 5: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Rapid fire.

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01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:30,480
Speaker 2: All right, Jared, we start with you.

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01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:31,000
Speaker 5: What do you like?

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Speaker 3: Well, I've got a Schmorgersborg for you today. I've got baseball,

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01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 3: I got basketball, i got hockey. Let's start with MLB.

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01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:39,480
Speaker 3: I'm taking the Astros on the first five money line.

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01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:42,120
Speaker 3: They are hosting the Twins minus one twenty five over

2187
01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 3: at bet MGM. Hunter Brown versus Joe Ryan advantage Hunter Brown,

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01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:48,280
Speaker 3: Houston's hot right now, they've won three straight, starting to

2189
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 3: find their stride atop the als. Twins are sinking, they've

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01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:53,640
Speaker 3: lost two straight and they are very poor fourteen to

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01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 3: twenty against teams above five hundred this year. So we'll

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01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:58,520
Speaker 3: go Astros on the first five money line Game five

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01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:02,040
Speaker 3: Stanley Cup Final taking and the Oilers playing and simple

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01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:05,200
Speaker 3: money line easy bet minus one eighteen uh. The winner

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01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 3: of Game five of a two to two series historically

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01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 3: wins the series about eighty percent of the time. Massive

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01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 3: game in Edmonton tonight, and I think the runner up theory.

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01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:17,960
Speaker 3: They have just the slightest of edges over Florida. And

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01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 3: finally we're gonna do the correct result of the NBA Finals.

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01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 3: We're going thunder four to two. This is minus one

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01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:27,560
Speaker 3: ten over at bet MGM. Essentially a two team money

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01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:30,720
Speaker 3: line parlay Oklahoma City in Game five, Oklahoma City in

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01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 3: Game six, or minus four to fifty on the money

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01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 3: line in Game five. They're probably gonna be about minus

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01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:38,240
Speaker 3: two forty. That was the closing price in Game four.

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01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 3: If you smush those together in a parlay calculator comes

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01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 3: out to about minus one forty. We're getting minus one ten.

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01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 3: I feel good about OKC in six thunder winning the

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Speaker 3: NBA Finals.

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01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:53,720
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna give you a schmorgasbord that only includes

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01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 5: two sports, Baseball then basketball. First, Padres plus one and

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01:57:58,640 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 5: a half on the online against the Arizona Diamondbacks. I

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01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 5: trust in the Padres bullpen. I think they'll keep it close.

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01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 5: Moving on to basketball, Pacers plus nine and a half

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01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 5: after not a humiliating loss, but a loss nonetheless, I

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01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 5: think that they'll find they'll find a way to keep

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01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 5: this one close as well. So I'll take the points

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01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:25,720
Speaker 5: there and then under one hundred and eight and a

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01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:28,960
Speaker 5: half in the first half. I think both teams will

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01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 5: come out to a little bit of a slow start.

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01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 5: I don't think they'll be tripping over themselves, but maybe

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01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:36,280
Speaker 5: a little bit of a haze, a carryover effect from

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01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 5: the poor three point shooting we saw from OKC in

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01:58:40,480 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 5: Game four. So give me the under one away and

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01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:44,680
Speaker 5: a half in the first half.

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01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:47,280
Speaker 2: You know, I'm feeling freaking crazy today. I gotta be

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01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 2: honest with you, guys. I'm going parlay here.

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01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:52,280
Speaker 5: Wow, and let.

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01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:57,120
Speaker 2: Me check almost two to one crazy? How crazy is that?

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01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 3: You don't get bonus points for that.

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01:58:58,520 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 5: I know I'm just.

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01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 2: Feeling crazy right now, but I like this play I do.

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01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Corey Perry. I mentioned that shots

2234
01:59:05,480 --> 01:59:08,000
Speaker 2: on goal over one and a half. He've been over

2235
01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 2: this number in each of the first four games, and

2236
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:13,120
Speaker 2: Edmonton puts a ton of shots on goals, so I

2237
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:17,240
Speaker 2: like that. I'm gonna parlay it with the Texas Rangers

2238
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:20,120
Speaker 2: minus one and a half. So the run lines minus

2239
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 2: two and a half. You gotta look at the spread

2240
01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:25,120
Speaker 2: minus one and a half. Jacob de Cram's going for

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01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:28,080
Speaker 2: the Rangers. They're playing the White Sox, and the Rangers

2242
01:59:28,120 --> 01:59:30,680
Speaker 2: have scored a ton of runs over the last six games,

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01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 2: so I like them to win by at least two.

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01:59:33,240 --> 01:59:35,840
Speaker 2: So that's basically two to one plus one ninety seven.

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01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 2: For no reason, I don't get bonus points for that.

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01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:45,080
Speaker 2: So I'm this crazy person over here. I'm looking at Indiana, Okay,

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01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:48,800
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at the Liberty and the Fever. Give

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01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 2: me the first quarter over forty three and a half points.

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01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 2: They haven't played since Tuesday. Caitlin Clark is back, so

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01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:58,440
Speaker 2: I think we're scoring points right out of the gate.

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01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:01,480
Speaker 2: Last time they played last month, they combined for fifty

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02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 2: nine points in the first quarter, So I think we're

2253
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:06,560
Speaker 2: running and gunning in the first quarter of this game.

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02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:09,280
Speaker 2: And then give me an under here I have to

2255
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 2: because Jared he sold me on the under. Give me

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02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:16,200
Speaker 2: TJ McConnell under two and a half rebounds for the Pacers.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy