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Speaker 2: in here the day after an NFL game, because 's

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Speaker 2: usually meet Fridays in the offseason. There was a game

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Speaker 2: last night. It was the Broncos and the Raiders, and

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you, if you guys missed it, congratulations,

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy for you. If you did not watch

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Speaker 2: last night's game. I don't know many people. I might

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Speaker 2: not even know any that love football more than me.

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Speaker 2: That was bad. That was a bad game. And I

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Speaker 2: can appreciate good defense. I like, I'm fine with low

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Speaker 2: scoring games, but I don't know how much of that

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Speaker 2: was good defense and how much of that was bad offense.

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Speaker 2: To put in perspective, I saw this stats somewhere. I

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Speaker 2: exact stat whatever. You guys can google it. That's what

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Speaker 2: the internet's for. I think it might have been the

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Speaker 2: first game since nineteen fifty where both teams had more

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Speaker 2: penalties than points. More penalties than points. I don't care

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Speaker 2: how much you love the sport. That's a tough watch

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Speaker 2: when there's more penalties than points. The Broncos end up

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Speaker 2: winning ten to seven over the Raiders. So the Broncos

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Speaker 2: are now eight and two, and I'm going to go

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Speaker 2: on record right now and say that was the worst

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Speaker 2: performance by a team getting their record to eight and

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Speaker 2: two in the history NFL has a team ever looked

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Speaker 2: worse and played worse in pursuit of an eight and

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Speaker 2: two record, which they got. I gotta start with Fritzy

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Speaker 2: this morning. We'll get to all your calls. Fritzy in

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Speaker 2: all sincerity, how did you feel watching that game last

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Speaker 2: night with your beloved Broncos? And how do you feel

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Speaker 2: this morning now that you slept on it.

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Speaker 3: I watched every plan as they do for all the Broncos.

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Speaker 4: There was extremely frustrating and I'm starting to think like

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Speaker 4: they didn't get a first down till the middle of

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Speaker 4: the second quarter.

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Speaker 2: They're a rookie punter.

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Speaker 4: I don't know any of us could have punted, but

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Speaker 4: I don't know what he was doing kicking off the

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Speaker 4: side of his foot, couldn't pin them inside the twenty

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Speaker 4: kicks it into the end. It was terrible and for

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Speaker 4: a team to be You're right, for a team to

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Speaker 4: be eight and to there the number one seed in

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Speaker 4: the AFC right now, to look like that offensively, fans

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Speaker 4: were booing and rightfully. So they wait till the fourth

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Speaker 4: quarter to score points, which didn't even happen last night.

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Speaker 4: At least you're thinking the fourth quarter they'd wake up

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Speaker 4: and get some points. They're not gonna be able to

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Speaker 4: let the defense. I know they got away within twenty

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Speaker 4: fifteen when Peyton was hurt and everything, but you can't

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Speaker 4: wait until the fourth quarter to wake up offensively, and

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Speaker 4: the defense is not gonna be able to tell them

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Speaker 4: out every week.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna have thirty three point fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: Games against the Giants come back against the Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: champions in Philadelphia in the fourth quarter. That's just not

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Speaker 2: So I guess the question.

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Speaker 5: I got you there, By the way, just in case

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Speaker 5: anyone was wondering, that wasn't pre recorded and then doubled

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Speaker 5: was actually live, that wasn't forwarded.

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Speaker 2: I want everybody, all radio or TV to know this. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the guys have the ability. There's called talkback. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: you've probably seen Dan do it before. He can press

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Speaker 2: And while Fritzy was going, PAULI said in my left ear,

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Speaker 2: if you don't stop it, I'll just keep going.

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Speaker 6: I can't argue that almost lost it, Tom, is not

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Speaker 6: like punctuation, all right, So you understand what I was

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Speaker 6: watching least.

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Speaker 2: But time you're on a Now you know I'm a

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 2: Pauses periods, but that these are punctuation is your friend?

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Speaker 2: Situation is your punctuation is your friend? Todd, I had

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Speaker 2: to get that all. I'm glad you did. But here's

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Speaker 2: my question. By the way, you made some great points.

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Speaker 2: We said a lot of records last night. That was

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Speaker 2: also the greatest punter disparity punter. The guy for the

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Speaker 2: Raiders is the AJ Cole must be the greatest punter.

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Speaker 2: Twice he has the ball hit on the one and

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Speaker 2: of bounds. It's the craziest thing. Aj Cole was the

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Speaker 2: best football player that I saw. Aj Cole and Max

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Speaker 2: Crosby and Benino. But here's the crux of it, Todd

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Speaker 2: and I want, I want to know what Paulie would

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Speaker 2: think and Seaton and Marv. Do you look at it

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Speaker 2: and say, man, that was horrible. We're not good. I

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Speaker 2: know we're eighting too, but we're not good. Or do

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Speaker 2: You guys can kiss my you know what.

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Speaker 4: For me, it's much more the former than the latter,

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Speaker 4: because I know what they have defensively, and I keep

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Speaker 4: waiting for the offense to prove they can hold up

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Speaker 4: their end of the bargain and be a deep playoff

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Speaker 4: run team, and their record is very deceiving. On one hand,

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Speaker 4: you know, they could have beat the Colts and charges

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Speaker 4: on those last second fields. They could have been nine

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Speaker 4: me some of those games that they just pulled that

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Speaker 2: They could be a.

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Speaker 4: Four and six team right now just as easily. So

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Speaker 4: I don't know what we're getting yet offensively with this time.

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Speaker 2: All right, So I feel like you guys know, I

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Speaker 2: grew up outs out of Philadelphia. Okay, So all my

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Speaker 2: I'm on the text chain during every Eagles game, and

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Speaker 2: it feels like people are like after a game like that,

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Speaker 2: there's really one of two ways you can go. This

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Speaker 2: team stinks. I don't care that they won, They're still

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Speaker 2: not good. That was pathetic. Or I don't give a

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Speaker 2: you know what, we won, that's all that matters. I

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Speaker 2: feel like my friends they go one of two ways. Paulli,

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Speaker 2: which way are you? Which way would you be? See?

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Speaker 7: I'm more of a middle ground guy. I try to

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Speaker 7: be level headed. But I think a lot of people

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Speaker 7: didn't see the Broncos play this year until last night

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Speaker 7: because they play at one o'clock or four o'clock and

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Speaker 7: you mix it in with the red zone. But last

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Speaker 7: night stand alone, if you look at them last night,

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Speaker 7: they did not look like a threatening team. And I

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Speaker 7: thought three weeks ago, this is a really interesting team,

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Speaker 7: really good pass rush. But then you look at their

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Speaker 7: schedule this year. They have one quality win. They beat

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Speaker 7: the Eagles by four. Otherwise their wins are against the Titans,

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Speaker 7: the Jets, the Giants, the Cowboys, the Texans, and the Raiders.

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Speaker 7: So it's like a false eight and two. You feel

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Speaker 7: good at the position of your I don't.

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Speaker 2: Believe in that. By the way, well it's an NFL team. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're playing other NFL teams. I'll say this as from

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Speaker 2: really good sign when you win even though you played

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Speaker 2: like crap. If you win an NFL game, even though

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Speaker 2: you played like crap, you're probably pretty good. It's hard

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Speaker 2: to win these games. Ask the Saints, ask the Titans,

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Speaker 2: ask the Jets. It's hard to win NFL football games.

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Speaker 2: If you're able to win when you look that bad,

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Speaker 2: that's a good sign setan.

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Speaker 5: I think if you look at say a team like

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs last year, I don't know exactly how many

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Speaker 5: one score games fifteen in a row, but it was

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Speaker 5: a lot of them, and they took that all the

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Speaker 5: way to the Super Bowl. So now, granted, I know

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs are the Chiefs and the Broncos are the Broncos,

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Speaker 5: and there's history that we have to look at. But

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Speaker 5: there's something to be said. Are you barely winning in

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Speaker 5: a good way or are you barely winning in a

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Speaker 5: bad way?

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Speaker 2: You know? Are you?

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Speaker 8: Are you barely getting wins to.

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Speaker 5: You know, advance and like I see, we do just

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Speaker 5: enough to keep winning, or you could be on the

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Speaker 5: flip side, obviously that and keep losing. But I think

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Speaker 5: that there's a lane for teams who keep winning close

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Speaker 5: games to advance, and that if at eight and two,

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Speaker 5: maybe the Broncos could be that this year.

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Speaker 2: So what's crazy about that is that the Chiefs had

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Speaker 2: the NFL's longest streak ever of winning fifteen straight one

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Speaker 2: score games. Guess what they are in one score games

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Speaker 2: this year, zero to four. Those things have a way

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Speaker 2: of kind of evening themselves out. Although listen to uh

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Speaker 2: Fritzy's point, the Broncos play the Chiefs next Sunday, I

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Speaker 2: would be stunned if the Chiefs aren't favored in that game,

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Speaker 2: I'd be stunned.

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Speaker 7: Go ahead, PAULI, Well, that's why I was going to

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Speaker 7: ask you. Records and belief in a team are two

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Speaker 7: different things. If I had to say, pick the team

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Speaker 7: that's going to go the Furthest this year in the

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Speaker 7: AFC West Broncos, Chargers, Chiefs. It's close right right now

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Speaker 7: because the Chiefs are.

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Speaker 2: Who's not saying Chiefs really?

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Speaker 5: Well, I have my like I don't know, May or

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Speaker 5: June prediction, I don't remember exactly what it was. Was

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs aren't making the playoffs this year, so I

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Speaker 5: have to.

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Speaker 9: Stick with that a scalding hot of the time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'll just tell you right now. I would

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Speaker 2: absolutely take the Chiefs out of those three teams to

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Speaker 2: go to the Furthest in the playoffs. Absolutely. However, the

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Speaker 2: Broncos have a real chance here to win the division

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Speaker 2: and to greatly increase the degree of difficulty for the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs to get back to the super Bowl. Yes, they

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Speaker 2: can win three road playoff games. But if the Broncos

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Speaker 2: can win that division, they're actually doing the Bills and

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Speaker 2: the Ravens and a bunch of these teams a huge favorite.

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Speaker 2: I think the first question is more or less this,

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Speaker 2: is there any such thing as a bad win? Do

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Speaker 2: He's probably the best draft guy scout out there. What

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Speaker 2: Just getting started here on a meet Friday. Ross Tucker,

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Speaker 2: the former Journeyman offensive lineman turned NFL broadcaster, in the

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to my guy Greg Cosell, who's an

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Speaker 2: absolute legend from NFL film is momentarily but seton what

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Speaker 2: In what's that?

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Speaker 9: What do you got?

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Speaker 8: Djon Honey spicy or yellow?

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Speaker 8: Wow, Djon Honey spicy or yellow?

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Speaker 2: That is great because I need to talk about my incident.

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Speaker 5: I'm positive Rosell is on today, by the way, is

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Speaker 2: You know what, Greg seems to me like a DJON guy, Like,

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Speaker 2: pardon me, mister Cussel, but do you have any gray poupon?

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Speaker 2: He joins me every Thursday and Friday on the Ross

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Speaker 11: I think I'm a golden spicy brown kind of guy.

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Speaker 11: Yes, I'm I'm not a great pupon guy, I don't.

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Speaker 11: That's why above my investment portfolio.

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Speaker 2: You know, I love the fact. Just so everybody knows,

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Speaker 11: I built Phil Badley for you. Well, I went to

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Speaker 11: the NFL ross is his ability to move within the pocket.

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Speaker 11: You don't see a lot of that in college because

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Speaker 11: it's not usually that necessary in college football to play

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Speaker 11: like that, But in the NFL pockets get squead there's

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Speaker 11: more bodies around you. How a quarterback reacts to that

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Speaker 11: is something that I really evaluate carefully. And I think

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Speaker 11: that pocket movement is a really important trade and May

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Speaker 11: has really shown that trade. Nix, on the other hand,

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Speaker 11: I think has been very, very inconsistent. I think that

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Speaker 11: his ball location has at times been good and has

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Speaker 11: at times lest something to be desired. You're almost and

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Speaker 11: you hate to say this about a quarterback, and I

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Speaker 11: like bo Nicks overall, but he's almost at the point

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Speaker 11: now where sometimes you're just not certain what you're gonna

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Speaker 11: get with bo Nicks. And and you know, obviously he's

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Speaker 11: had these big fourth quarter comebacks, but you don't want

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Speaker 11: to you don't want to live like that. You know,

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Speaker 11: you want more consistency from from play one to play seventy,

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Speaker 11: and that hasn't been the case with him for much

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Speaker 11: of this season.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious about that. When you're breaking down the tape

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Speaker 2: and you see these guys play their best in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter or in the last couple of minutes, what

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Speaker 2: do you what do you make out of that?

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Speaker 11: Well, you have to look at the reason why, what

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Speaker 11: kind of plays are they making? You know, if bo

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Speaker 11: Nix has made a number of plays in the fourth

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Speaker 11: quarter where it's been one on one on fade balls

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Speaker 11: and he's made a very good throw, and then quarterlet

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Speaker 11: Sutton has gone up against good coverage and.

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Speaker 9: Made a catch.

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Speaker 11: Obviously that play counts and it's a good job by

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Speaker 11: both guys. He did make a great play. I remember

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Speaker 11: specifically against the Eagles where he made a great read

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Speaker 11: and a great throw to I believe it was sudden

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Speaker 11: on a third and fifteen maybe if memory serves me correctly,

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Speaker 11: and that was a really big time throw with great

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Speaker 11: timing and anticipation and ball location. But I think you

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Speaker 11: always have to look at the plays themselves, and that

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Speaker 11: to me is just like interceptions. You always have to

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Speaker 11: look at interceptions as individual plays, not as a number

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Speaker 11: on a stat sheet. You've got to look at the plays. So,

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Speaker 11: you know, I think that Knicks has made obviously they've

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Speaker 11: come back in games, and he certainly made throws and

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Speaker 11: he uses his legs extremely well. We saw that who

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Speaker 11: do they It was the Giants, right, the Giants where

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Speaker 11: they had that crazy comeback and scored thirty three in

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Speaker 11: the fourth quarter. And you have to look at all

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Speaker 11: those plays as individual plays, not just say wow, they

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Speaker 11: came back. So you know, that's the way I go

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Speaker 11: about it anyway.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny by the way, you think about

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Speaker 2: some of the rookie quarterbacks that are playing right now,

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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart and Yep and cam Ward and obviously now

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Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck, And maybe they're not in great situations. You know, Greg,

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Speaker 2: I called a couple of Patriots games last year, and

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Speaker 2: they might have had the worst O line and the

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Speaker 2: worst receiving core, and I still thought Drake may look good,

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Speaker 2: you know, so you can still look good as a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You know the other teams I wanted to ask you about.

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Speaker 11: Well, just one quick point if I could. Yeah, when

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Speaker 11: you evalue I learned this from people smarter than I

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Speaker 11: am at back quarterback play. Going back to Bill Walsh,

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Speaker 11: when you evaluate a quarterback cross you have to evaluate

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Speaker 11: him separately from the circumstances. You have to isolate on

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Speaker 11: the traits of the quarterback. We know that certain teams

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Speaker 11: don't have great receivers, or certain teams may not have

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Speaker 11: a great run game. That's all fine. That has nothing

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Speaker 11: to do with how a quarterback plays. The position of quarterback,

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Speaker 11: you have to isolate the quarterback and separate him from

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Speaker 11: the rest of the team. That's how you evaluate a quarterback.

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Speaker 11: You understand that, hey, maybe he's not throwing to great guys,

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Speaker 11: but that doesn't dictate how he goes about playing the

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Speaker 11: position of quarterback.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, let's evaluate a couple of other quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: because again looking at the top of the standings, I

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Speaker 2: see the seven and two Indianapolis Colts, Yeah, and I

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Speaker 2: see the six and two Seattle Seahawks and Greg No

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Speaker 2: matter who I talk to, they are not gonna believe

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Speaker 2: in danel Jones or Sam Darnold until they actually see

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Speaker 2: those guys win a playoff game. What are you seeing?

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Speaker 2: Are you seeing enough that the rest of us should

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Speaker 2: buy in and should believe that these teams are real?

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Speaker 11: And I don't think give it like that.

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Speaker 2: Row.

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Speaker 11: It's like, you know, when people say, are these teams

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Speaker 11: for real? All I know is what we have up

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Speaker 11: to this point and how these teams play. So if

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Speaker 11: you look at the Colts, and by the way, Daniel

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Speaker 11: Jones made some really good throws this past week, even

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Speaker 11: though they lost to the Steelers and he had to

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Speaker 11: drop back fifty five times, which, as you know, no

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Speaker 11: coach wants a quarterback to drop back fifty five times

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Speaker 11: in a game. He had twenty six dropbacks alone in

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Speaker 11: the fourth quarter, and as I said, he made some

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Speaker 11: big time throws. Now, there's a team that is very

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Speaker 11: much based on the fact that they dominate on first down,

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Speaker 11: and first down domination is the result of being in

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Speaker 11: control of games close enough that you can do what

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Speaker 11: you want to do on first down. Jones had the

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Speaker 11: most first down passing yardage in the league. Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 11: is among the league leaders in first down rushing yardage.

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Speaker 11: They dominate on first down, and when you can't do that,

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Speaker 11: the game changes. And then when you have to drop

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Speaker 11: back on every single play, as they did every play

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Speaker 11: in the fourth quarter last week was a pass twenty

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Speaker 11: six plays and as you probably saw, there are two

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Speaker 11: tackles in that game. Did not play well in one

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Speaker 11: on one pass protection when they were asked to block

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Speaker 11: one on one against Watton Heismith. So they had a

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Speaker 11: very difficult game. But I think the nature of the

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Speaker 11: Colts offense is such that if they can stay within

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Speaker 11: the game that they're very very good. Donald he's another guy.

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Speaker 11: He's really good in specific ways. Every quarterback for the

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Speaker 11: most part, Ross has defined strengths and then certain limitations.

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Speaker 11: That's just true with every quarterback, even great ones. Okay,

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Speaker 11: so Donald is really good as a play action quarterback.

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Speaker 11: The reeds are more defined. He pushes it down the

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Speaker 11: field as well as any quarterback in the league. Now

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Speaker 11: they have Shaheed that's only going to help in that regard.

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Speaker 11: Donald is better in that kind of offense than he is,

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Speaker 11: let's say, in the shotgun offense sitting back there being

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Speaker 11: asked to scan the field. So if all of a

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Speaker 11: sudden they get down big and he's asked to do that,

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Speaker 11: he may not look as good because that's not what

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Speaker 11: he does. As well as play in an under center

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Speaker 11: play action game where they can control the pace and

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Speaker 11: tempo of the game.

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Speaker 2: More so, greg Our producer here is Pauly Papps and

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Speaker 2: he's a die hard, die hard Bears fan. So you

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Speaker 2: talked about bo Nicks, you talked about Drake may I

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Speaker 2: think he'd be upset if I didn't get your evaluation

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Speaker 2: of Caleb Williams, the number one pick in the last

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Speaker 2: year's draft. Where are you and what are you seeing

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Speaker 2: on the tape with Caleb Williams? So far this year

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Speaker 2: in Ben Johnson's offense.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it's been a work in progress, and

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Speaker 11: I totally expected that it's a very difficult offense, just

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Speaker 11: starting with the operational perspective, Rawson, you know what I

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Speaker 11: mean by that, where you know, calling the play in

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Speaker 11: the huddle where there might be two plays called, then

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Speaker 11: there's alerts. Then you want to have enough time when

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Speaker 11: you get to the line of scrimmage because that offense

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Speaker 11: features shifts and motions. Then you want to have Williams

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Speaker 11: be able to sort of research the defense. So the

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Speaker 11: operational part was something he really struggled with as a

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Speaker 11: rookie under a different coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: But then he had to learn that this year.

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Speaker 11: I would say that last week in the game, last

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Speaker 11: week now, and again this is not relevant to me

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Speaker 11: that Cincinnati doesn't have a good defense. But I thought

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Speaker 11: you saw a lot more of the Ben Johnson pass

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Speaker 11: game concepts come to fruition, and I thought that there

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Speaker 11: were times Williams looked really good executing those. Now there

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Speaker 11: are still times because it will be a work in progress,

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Speaker 11: where he was a beat slow with his reads and

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Speaker 11: did not get the throws that were there. There are

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Speaker 11: times there's a little bit of an unfocused phonetic nature

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Speaker 11: to him to his pocket play. That's his next step

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Speaker 11: in his continued development. But I got to tell you,

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Speaker 11: this guy throws the ball. It's crazy the way he

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Speaker 11: throws the ball. And when you talk about with throwing

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Speaker 11: the ball on the move, I mean, this guy has

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Speaker 11: an absolute power hose when he throws the ball on

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Speaker 11: the move. I don't know if I've seen anybody throw

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Speaker 11: with that kind of velocity, even Aaron Rodgers in his prime,

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Speaker 11: with that kind of velocity on the move.

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Speaker 2: Check him out on social media at Greg Cosel and

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Speaker 2: Podcast Thursday or Friday. A lot more hardcore football talk

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Speaker 2: where that came from. Greg. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: the time here on the Dan Patrick Show. Really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 11: Ross, Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: Awesome to talk with. Greg. I am very curious to

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Speaker 2: hear how Paully feels about what Greg just said, because

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Speaker 2: you could That's another one. You could have taken what

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Speaker 2: Kyle Football, and I gotta tell you about my favorite

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Speaker 2: NFL stadium by far, and the stadium that should be

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Speaker 2: on your bucket list. But we got a couple items

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Speaker 2: here that we need to get to. One of which, PAULI,

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Speaker 2: is your reaction to what Greg Cosell said about Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 2: Because he started out with work in progress and then

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Speaker 2: towards the end he was like he's making throws at

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Speaker 2: even Aaron Rodgers doesn't make so I'm very curious. We're

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Speaker 2: about to find out if you're a glass half full

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Speaker 2: or glass half empty person, PAULI.

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Speaker 7: Work in progress is not a compliment. It's when you

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Speaker 7: don't have all the facts yet you like, I still

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Speaker 7: haven't made a decision on a quarterback. When you watch

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Speaker 7: Caleb Williams, when I watch him every week, he masters

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Speaker 7: the spectacular, he hasn't mastered the mundane.

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Speaker 9: He drops back and will.

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Speaker 2: Well said, I'm gonna steal that. By the way, that's

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Speaker 2: really well said.

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: He'll make a highlight across his body throw that only

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Speaker 7: five people can make league. But on a third and four,

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Speaker 7: he doesn't just throw it to the guy in the

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Speaker 7: flat who's wide open. If even if you look at

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Speaker 7: the end of the Bengals game the other day, he

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Speaker 7: had that great throw to Colston Lovelin that won the game.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and it's unbel the.

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Speaker 7: Two plays before that, he scrambled with his back to

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Speaker 7: the defense twice and was it looked like a catastrophe

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Speaker 7: the two plays before that. So the two plays before

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Speaker 7: were almost a catastrophe by Williams by his scrambling and

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Speaker 7: the next play was a beautiful throw on time, on target.

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Speaker 7: I think he does not play. He's almost too talented

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Speaker 7: and doesn't take the easy stuff.

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Speaker 2: All right, Marv, I'm going to put you on the

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Speaker 2: spot here. Would you rather have a quarterback that masters

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Speaker 2: the mundane but is not capable of doing this spectacular

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Speaker 2: or would you rather have a quarterback that can do

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Speaker 2: the spectacular but is very much a work in progress

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Speaker 2: with the mundane. Master of the mundane, for sure. Oh

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Speaker 2: you win super Bowls that way?

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Speaker 7: All right, Paulie, I have a name for you, Jared Goff.

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Speaker 7: Jared Goff does not make spectacular throws. He doesn't have

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Speaker 7: great physical skills. They can get out of danger, but

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Speaker 7: he seems to take all the smart plays for the

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Speaker 7: Lions and get the ball out quickly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, can you say Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manna. Sure, No,

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Speaker 2: those guys think you a whole lot of spectacular story

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Speaker 2: invented it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, seems like

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Speaker 2: mastering the mundane seems like a pretty good way to go.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that I absolutely love about the show

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Speaker 2: is just how incredible your audience is. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how many stations we're on. We're on a lot because

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Speaker 2: we've got everybody calling in an eight seven, seven to

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Speaker 2: three DP show, and I promise I'm trying to be

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Speaker 2: better about getting to some of those. But also on

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Speaker 2: social media, people hitting us up at DP show at

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Speaker 2: Ross Tucker, NFL, Loewen Semph Extra Hot, German Mustard, Sweet

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Speaker 2: and Spicy Mustard, Stadium Mustard Beer and brought Horse Radish

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Speaker 2: Mustard fantastic. People have like very strong opinions about this

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Speaker 2: specific type of mustard.

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Speaker 7: Do you have one my go to mustard company, Wobers,

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Speaker 7: you're like it? They got everything spicyt.

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Speaker 9: W W O E B E R old school.

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Speaker 2: You know, I gotta admit something. Probably shouldn't do this

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Speaker 2: on the radio. I have no idea what's even in mustard?

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Speaker 2: What even is mustard?

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Speaker 9: It's ground up mustard, seeds and other things.

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Speaker 2: What are the other things? Boy, you don't know either.

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Speaker 7: You don't know either, No, but it's lots of other

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Speaker 7: fills to give it. Well, you gotta have you gotta

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Speaker 7: have water, you gotta have paste, and do you know.

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Speaker 3: Probably some kind of paprika and oils.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, pronounce the word p A p R

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Speaker 2: I k a paprika. It's paprika, right, I thought it's paprika.

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Speaker 3: I could be totally wrong.

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Speaker 2: Is it paprika or paprika?

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Speaker 8: See, it might be regional. I would say paprika, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Paprika, Mark bell pa, but pronounce pu Or would I

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Speaker 7: say paprika?

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Speaker 2: No, No, No one has ever said paprika real Marv, Paprika, Paprika, paprika,

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Speaker 2: pat Oh my god, paprika.

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Speaker 8: It might be paprika.

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Speaker 2: Are you guys pulling one over? Is this a fast one?

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Speaker 9: PAULI paprika? Like if you said, what do you put

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Speaker 9: in there? Paprika? Yes, like paprika.

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Speaker 2: Listen. I guarantee that there are chefs listening to the

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Speaker 2: show right now. There are people that specialize in selling seasonings.

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Speaker 2: In fact, they are in their car going to the

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Speaker 2: next restaurant chain to try to sell them more of

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Speaker 2: their seasonings. They do not walk into that restaurant and say,

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Speaker 2: I've got some new, delicious paprika for you. Nobody is

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Speaker 2: selling anything called paprika. I got some great papri.

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Speaker 7: Ritzie doesn't cook and has never used it. By the way,

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Speaker 7: mustard is ground mustard, seeds, vinegar, water, wine or in

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Speaker 7: various spices.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I gotta be honest with you. I don't

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Speaker 2: even know what a mustard seed is. Where do you

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Speaker 2: get a mustard seed?

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Speaker 9: How can you love mustard that much?

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Speaker 2: But who grows mustards? Who grows mustard seeds?

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Speaker 9: Great people?

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's a good point. Wisconsin, right, that's where they

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Speaker 2: got the Mustard Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 9: I believe Checkie might be in Iowa.

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Speaker 2: No, I think it's Wisconsin. I think I've driven by it.

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Speaker 2: I will be there Monday night. It's a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a tease to what we're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: when we return. We also get into some college football

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Speaker 2: with Andy Staples. We're rolling here. Our number two's next