Speaker 1: Hello, Hi, What is your name?
Speaker 2: It's Rolando?
Speaker 1: Rolando. What's going on? Oh?
Speaker 2: Well, I sent you the text? You know you want
Speaker 2: to hear how I got to the US.
Speaker 1: What I tell me as if you set me nothing?
Speaker 1: Bet So.
Speaker 2: You know I've been in the US for about I
Speaker 2: don't know. Now it's been eleven years, and I didn't
Speaker 2: really get here, uh you know the plain way per se.
Speaker 2: I'm from uh, Central America, and you know I kind
Speaker 2: of walked here when I was fifteen?
Speaker 1: You walked here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: From where? From where?
Speaker 2: Central America? I don't want to say the country, but
Speaker 2: the Central America.
Speaker 1: Why don't you want to say the country?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess I'm I don't want to
Speaker 2: put a specific country to it. Well, I guess everybody
Speaker 2: from Central America does it.
Speaker 1: I'm Salvadorian, Salvadorant. How far away is El Salvador from
Speaker 1: the US? And what's the walking? How long it take
Speaker 1: you to walk there?
Speaker 2: I guess I shouldn't say walk. I mean I did
Speaker 2: take some you know, car transportation here and there, but
Speaker 2: it was with like a do you know what a
Speaker 2: coyote is? U?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Ship? Yeah? Yeah, like a coyote? Yeah, yeah, like, uh,
Speaker 1: those are people who are who like they they bring
Speaker 1: bring people over the border.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for a payment. So it's actually it costs my mom,
Speaker 2: I believe Eve about ten dollars for the trip.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, and she sent just you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's just me wow. I basically it started
Speaker 2: at like five am, no, like three am in Al Salvador.
Speaker 2: I was you know where they put the luggage in
Speaker 2: the buses at the bottom. There was like four kits
Speaker 2: at the bottom to cross from Al Salvador to Guatemala.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And then once you're on the other side, then somebody
Speaker 2: from that side picks you up and then essentially drives
Speaker 2: you up to the Mexico border, because you know, Mexico
Speaker 2: still doesn't like immigrants coming from the bottom either, which
Speaker 2: is interesting to hear. Right, But once you do cross
Speaker 2: over to Mexico, then they like pay a cartel a
Speaker 2: fee to get over or whatever, and they allow you
Speaker 2: to get over. And once you cross over, then they
Speaker 2: get you onto like a mini bus essentially, and then
Speaker 2: you drive through all of Mexico until you get to
Speaker 2: the border and at the border right before the river.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is too much information at once.
Speaker 1: No go ahead, I am following.
Speaker 2: Okay, So once you get to the border, they have
Speaker 2: like a house right before the river crossing onto the US.
Speaker 2: Right now. The crazy thing is that, you know, at
Speaker 2: the time I was fifteen, I thought I was only
Speaker 2: going to see people from you know, Latin America. There
Speaker 2: was so many different people from so many different countries.
Speaker 2: I'm talking India, China, you know, all the way down
Speaker 2: from like Brazil and people that you know, you wouldn't
Speaker 2: expect to be there. It was like super strange. And
Speaker 2: there was this Indian guy that had like some like
Speaker 2: crazy gold chains, like he looked like he was loaded
Speaker 2: with money, you know. So basically we're at this point,
Speaker 2: we're right before the river right now, we get a
Speaker 2: guide the nose to Path on how to make it
Speaker 2: to the US, and I mean, I don't really care
Speaker 2: because you know, it's a long time agoing out. But
Speaker 2: and I'm also not illegal anymore, by the way, got
Speaker 2: through the whole system and was able to get a
Speaker 2: green card. But once you get the guide. I remember
Speaker 2: we crossed the river at night and we had to
Speaker 2: wait at the other side of the river and we
Speaker 2: heard it like a loud splash next to us and
Speaker 2: on that, you know, we didn't know what it was
Speaker 2: and I looked over and it was like an alligator.
Speaker 2: Obviously we're freaking out, but we still have to wait
Speaker 2: for the guide at the other side of the river
Speaker 2: for to reach us. So he finally makes it to us,
Speaker 2: and I believe we walked for two nights. We would
Speaker 2: only walk during the night because during the day, you know,
Speaker 2: immigration could see you or whatever. And once you make
Speaker 2: it to the other side, then a pickup truck just
Speaker 2: picks you up, and you got to run to it
Speaker 2: because if you don't, you might be left behind. Even
Speaker 2: though you've paid ten thousand dollars to be there and
Speaker 2: to get help, they don't care. And then once you're
Speaker 2: in Texas at this point, right once you're in Texas,
Speaker 2: they asked for like an addition of two thousand dollars
Speaker 2: for you to be free or the kurttail basically sends
Speaker 2: you back.
Speaker 1: How did you get the two thousand dollars?
Speaker 2: So it was kind of like an additional like fee
Speaker 2: that they wanted. And I remember at the time my
Speaker 2: mom had like, you know, obviously she's already paid ten k,
Speaker 2: so how is she gonna get you know, more money,
Speaker 2: and she told me that she ended up borrowing money
Speaker 2: from everybody that she could and she got the money together. Wow,
Speaker 2: was able to pay it.
Speaker 1: So so and do they do they take did they
Speaker 1: take her ten k? And then say they were going
Speaker 1: to do everything? And then once they got you there
Speaker 1: be like, hey, we need another two k or else
Speaker 1: we'll send you back type shit.
Speaker 2: Pretty much? Yeah, pretty much because at that point, you're
Speaker 2: they have you in Texas and there's like plenty of
Speaker 2: articles that you can see everywhere, but like there's a
Speaker 2: lot of like cartel activity like near the border in Texas, right,
Speaker 2: So they'll they'll rent like a whole house and they'll
Speaker 2: have a lot of immigrants come to that one house
Speaker 2: as a hub, and then they send them across the US.
Speaker 1: Those cartel guys are real jerks, dude.
Speaker 2: They're like it's a crazy like how they It's like
Speaker 2: it's kind of wild how organized they are.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So, I'm curious about a few things. What was it
Speaker 1: that inspired your mom in the first place to send
Speaker 1: you from El Salvador to America? What was the thought process?
Speaker 1: What was waiting for you in America?
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever heard of what's it called the
Speaker 2: MS thirteen.
Speaker 1: MS thirteen, Yeah, no, sir, what is that?
Speaker 2: So at some point MS thirteen was like the most
Speaker 2: dangerous or one of the most dangerous gangs in the world,
Speaker 2: and it started in the US during a civil war
Speaker 2: in Central America. I think I believe it was around
Speaker 2: like towards the end of the eighties seventies, if I'm
Speaker 2: not too wrong there, But there was a civil war
Speaker 2: Central America, which a lot of Americans don't know about,
Speaker 2: and it was an Alsavador. A lot of people migrated
Speaker 2: to the US during that civil war. They saw the
Speaker 2: gangs in around California, and a lot of those you know,
Speaker 2: Hispanic people there ended up making their own gangs and
Speaker 2: then they got deported back to Osavador. Now because of
Speaker 2: those gangs, I had to leave the country. They typically
Speaker 2: want you to join the gang around like fifteen sixteen,
Speaker 2: seventeen years old, and at that time, it was like
Speaker 2: crazy dangerous, Like you couldn't go out side with like
Speaker 2: anything branded, like wearing anything branded, so like if you
Speaker 2: had Nike shoes, forget about it, they were gonna steal them.
Speaker 2: Now the country has become a completely different place, like
Speaker 2: it's I would argue it's safer than the US, which
Speaker 2: is crazy to think, but it's completely different. I'm even
Speaker 2: thinking about moving back.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, hold on to those thoughts because I have
Speaker 1: I have more questions. So basically, there's a it's like
Speaker 1: a draft almost. It's like you either join the gang
Speaker 1: or you'll be terrorized by it. Those are two or killed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was usually killed. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like I had a couple of friends that you know,
Speaker 2: I grew up with and they're no longer around, you know,
Speaker 2: So it's it's wild that I had the opportunity to,
Speaker 2: you know, to be able to leave.
Speaker 1: What happens to your mom?
Speaker 2: She's still in the US with me?
Speaker 1: Oh when did she? When did she come?
Speaker 2: So that's the thing. So I kind of missed that,
Speaker 2: I guess. But she came to the US first, and
Speaker 2: the idea was for her to be in the US
Speaker 2: for two years and buy a house in a Salvador
Speaker 2: and move back.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: That didn't happen. She ended up staying in the US,
Speaker 2: and then she got me to come over to the
Speaker 2: US instead to you know, have a better life. And yeah, so.
Speaker 1: There were two quick Oh yes, why do you think?
Speaker 1: Why do you want to come back to El Salvador,
Speaker 1: and why do you think it's better than the US.
Speaker 2: Now, I wouldn't say it's like like better than the US,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I feel like this whole political
Speaker 2: stuff that's been going on, I'm a little tire of it.
Speaker 2: And it's just, you know, I have had so many
Speaker 2: racist things said to me, and it's just, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not trying. I usually try not to let it
Speaker 2: get to me, but it's it gets exhausting after a.
Speaker 1: While, you know, go ahead, Yeah, No.
Speaker 2: And owning a you know, I really want to buy
Speaker 2: a house. Yeah, And I just even if you pay
Speaker 2: off the whole thing, you still got to pay taxes
Speaker 2: on a yearly. Where if I was in Al Salvador
Speaker 2: and I own twenty acres, I don't want to pay
Speaker 2: taxes for nothing?
Speaker 1: Is that really true? You don't have to pay property
Speaker 1: tax and El Salvador as far as I.
Speaker 2: Know, No.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My mom actually just finished building a house in Al
Speaker 2: Salvador and she just paid taxes on the land that
Speaker 2: she bought and that's about it.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's interesting. I didn't know that UH countries exist,
Speaker 1: right't have to pay property taxes on your land because
Speaker 1: it's weird in the US at least, it's like you
Speaker 1: never actually there's never, like you pay off your fucking
Speaker 1: your ship and then you never have to pay anything
Speaker 1: ever again. It's like you pay off your shit and
Speaker 1: then you got to pay all these extra fees forever
Speaker 1: until you die.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. Is that like even like let's say
Speaker 2: you own the house and then you know you're going
Speaker 2: through some bad times and you can't pay the taxes,
Speaker 2: the you know they're going to take it away. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know so. But yeah, I've been in the US
Speaker 2: for like ten years now. It's you know, hopefully my
Speaker 2: accent is not too too thick, but now I have
Speaker 2: had my ups and downs in the US, you know.
Speaker 2: But it's it's definitely a uh, not a place to
Speaker 2: retire at, that's for sure. I don't know if you've
Speaker 2: seen a lot of people are retiring in Mexico from
Speaker 2: the US.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, my whole my YouTube feed is all this
Speaker 1: like retire for forty dollars a month in you know
Speaker 1: this Southeast Asian or Latin American or Central American country.
Speaker 1: That's all all the videos. I mean, No, America is
Speaker 1: a terrible place to retire. There's it's such a expensive
Speaker 1: place to live. Like if you compare I mean, if
Speaker 1: you take American dollars anywhere outside the US, you're balling.
Speaker 1: And then I assume, like, yeah, if you were making
Speaker 1: your money and like in Mexico, like in pesos, and
Speaker 1: you fucking came up to the US, like you just
Speaker 1: get fucked.
Speaker 2: That, And like even even down to like the fruit,
Speaker 2: the produce, everything is healthier. I recently went back to
Speaker 2: visit some family in Alsavador, and I was kind of
Speaker 2: mind boggled at how cheap everything was. Like I think
Speaker 2: like six of us eight we went out to eat,
Speaker 2: and I think I only spend like forty dollars.
Speaker 1: Crazy, yeah, crazy, yeah, I mean six people going out
Speaker 1: to eat in America, there's about three hundred and forty dollars.
Speaker 2: You know, So especially I live in the New Anglan area,
Speaker 2: and my god, everything is so expensive over here.
Speaker 1: Are you in Boston?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Cool?
Speaker 2: Cool, near nearer there. But by the way, I wanted
Speaker 2: to ask you something I've always you know, I've listened
Speaker 2: to your I mainly listened to you on the podcast,
Speaker 2: by the way, cool, I don't really clock in on
Speaker 2: on on twitch, but I tried to do as much
Speaker 2: as I can. I thought I thought it would be cool.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you think this would be
Speaker 2: you know, interesting or not, but I thought it would
Speaker 2: be cool to have a Spanish vers of the Gek okay,
Speaker 2: but it wouldn't be like, you know, it's like a
Speaker 2: take on the gek, but it would be like a parrot,
Speaker 2: but it's in Spanish.
Speaker 1: Are you are you saying you want to do? Are
Speaker 1: you saying you want to dress up as a parrot
Speaker 1: and take phone calls in Spanish?
Speaker 2: I would love to, Yeah, but I didn't know if
Speaker 2: it would be like cloiche or like, you know, rude
Speaker 2: to do something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. I don't own the concept
Speaker 1: of taking phone calls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people have.
Speaker 1: Been People have been doing this for for forever. People
Speaker 1: have been doing this since you know, in radio days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so fun. I'll get dude, it's so fun. I
Speaker 1: get d ms like this of people being like, am
Speaker 1: I can I do a call in show? Or is
Speaker 1: that encroaching our territory? And I'm like, dude, I fucking
Speaker 1: people have been doing people have been doing Man on
Speaker 1: the Street interviews and phone calls forever. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't own this ship. Go ahead, but like still on
Speaker 1: or something like that. See, I don't even Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a billion stuff like this, but but I want to
Speaker 1: ask you this. So tell me there's gotta be some
Speaker 1: reason people are still sticking around in the US. Tell
Speaker 1: me in the past eleven years. Has there been pros
Speaker 1: Has there been stuff where you're like, all right, this
Speaker 1: stuff is at least better than it was back home.
Speaker 1: Is there anything you can think about.
Speaker 2: Honestly, just being able to like express yourself, you know,
Speaker 2: because like if I was back in Olsavador, like religion
Speaker 2: is such a huge part of the culture that like
Speaker 2: me saying something like, oh, you know, I don't really
Speaker 2: believe in God, it's like like almost like frowned upon,
Speaker 2: you know, like being able to just really be yourself,
Speaker 2: like you know, from time to time, I pay my nails,
Speaker 2: you know, and or if I wanted my hair to
Speaker 2: be paid. There's plenty of people doing that in the US,
Speaker 2: you know, where in other countries it's just not you know,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get some weird looks and you're not gonna
Speaker 2: be comfortable.
Speaker 1: M m.
Speaker 2: You know that's pretty cool. I think that like being
Speaker 2: able to open a business and kind of like get
Speaker 2: it going fairly quickly is pretty cool too. I don't
Speaker 2: have one on my own, but it seems like everybody's
Speaker 2: opening on LLC lately.
Speaker 1: Is that something you thought about doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have. I have a photography business, and I
Speaker 2: do YouTube here and there, but it's I love cameras
Speaker 2: and like anything media related. Like when I got my
Speaker 2: green card, the judge asked me. He was like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, once you graduate high school, what do you
Speaker 2: want to do? And I said, I want to be
Speaker 2: a movie director, not realizing how long that can take,
Speaker 2: but you know something I can still do.
Speaker 1: You said, what do you make YouTube videos about?
Speaker 2: Mainly cameras? And I got an e bike recently. It's
Speaker 2: mainly I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Dude, okay, So I actually I'm in New York now
Speaker 1: and I think I'm gonna get a fucking e bike. Dude.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like going to the e bike stores.
Speaker 1: I'm shopping around for it. I'm trying to get one
Speaker 1: of those. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: an e bike. Do you do you suggest it?
Speaker 2: I so suggest that the only anxiety about it that
Speaker 2: I have right now is that apparently they're like super
Speaker 2: easy to steal or like people love stealing them, right,
Speaker 2: So that's the only issue. But it's funny. I actually
Speaker 2: got the e bike because I have a friend that
Speaker 2: lives in New York and I want to take it
Speaker 2: right around in New York because it seems like it'd
Speaker 2: be a lot of fun to do that there.
Speaker 1: The old problem is when you when you're riding an
Speaker 1: e bike, there is a chance that you will get
Speaker 1: hit by a car and die m h yeah, or
Speaker 1: w for the rest of your life and people will
Speaker 1: make fun of you.
Speaker 2: I just watched well, I mean, I guess you could
Speaker 2: say that about anything though. I mean, you can walk
Speaker 2: outside of the house and trip and hit your head,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 2: The e bike I got, it's like a thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: It's like a cheap o like electric e bike that
Speaker 2: looks like that one of those like cafe erasers.
Speaker 1: That's cool. I was looking at something like I was
Speaker 1: looking at something like that around that price range.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got amos on it. I'm like pay a
Speaker 2: month be for it. So it's not even like anything
Speaker 2: crazy extensive because they can go up to like five K.
Speaker 1: So what do you do with your life in the
Speaker 1: US right now?
Speaker 2: I'm actually going to school. So I'm going to school
Speaker 2: to have like a a solid job. I'm getting Uh
Speaker 2: it's essentially cybersecurity. That is an umbrella degree. So it's
Speaker 2: just in the tech stuff that's to have a solid income.
Speaker 2: I'm really passionate about, like the photography stuff, but it's
Speaker 2: so difficult to get business with that. That's just not
Speaker 2: that reliable. It's like I'm trying to be a rock star.
Speaker 2: You know, it can happen, it's just I shouldn't rely
Speaker 2: on it too much, you know.
Speaker 1: So if you if you did go back to El Salvador,
Speaker 1: when do you think you would do it? Would you
Speaker 1: wait until you finish school?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Pretty much? So you know what I want to do.
Speaker 2: I want to get a degree in the US to
Speaker 2: you know, try to do something within the US that's
Speaker 2: tech related and potentially like be remote. Like it'd be
Speaker 2: so cool to have a job that pays you US
Speaker 2: money and live in a country like Ol Salvador where
Speaker 2: stuff is a little bit cheaper.
Speaker 1: You know, or like yeah, I mean that's the that's
Speaker 1: that's the life hack right there. And also, you know,
Speaker 1: I was just thinking that I literally just had the
Speaker 1: star just now. I'm like, you know, it's really I
Speaker 1: think the thing that holds me back from moving to
Speaker 1: a foreign country is that I just I don't know
Speaker 1: anyone in El Salvador or or Southeast Asia or anything
Speaker 1: like that. But for you to take your US dollars
Speaker 1: and your US job and go back to a foreign
Speaker 1: country where you have I mean not a foreign country,
Speaker 1: but to go back to home, to go home, have
Speaker 1: your friends and your family. Yeah, and you're and I
Speaker 1: mean you'll just be balling the fuck out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, correctly, you know. And like a house, you can
Speaker 2: definitely get a house of like fifty thousand dollars and
Speaker 2: they'll be.
Speaker 1: Like a nice house. That's crazy, you know.
Speaker 2: Stuff is it is here and they're cheap and what not.
Speaker 2: By the way, if you want to travel around there
Speaker 2: also there was like the perfect place to go right now.
Speaker 2: And apparently I didn't know this, but belief like their
Speaker 2: main language is English really yeah, and then the secondary
Speaker 2: language is a Spanish I guess. I guess they also
Speaker 2: have a lot of like I think it was Mormon people.
Speaker 2: There's like a huge community of Mormons, and I believe
Speaker 2: it was Mormons. But yeah, I thought that was kind
Speaker 2: of wild too, that most people don't know that.
Speaker 1: What's your name again, Orlando? Rolando, Orlando. It's been really
Speaker 1: good talking to you. This is this has been super interesting.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 2: Thanks man.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the Actually, no, I want to do that.
Speaker 1: I want to do this real quick before I before
Speaker 1: I let you go, does the chat have any questions
Speaker 1: for Orlando about any of this stuff. I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: the chat ask a few questions. Someone said, someone in
Speaker 1: the chest said, if you die on an e bike,
Speaker 1: you deserve it. And you know what, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know the thing that you said about, like you
Speaker 1: can you can die just walking outside. Your likelihood to
Speaker 1: die riding an e bike in New York City is
Speaker 1: way higher than just walking around. Yeah, but like undeniably. So,
Speaker 1: uh okay, what's what's the top speed on your e bike?
Speaker 2: I think it's thirty miles per hour? It can do forty,
Speaker 2: but I'm a fat ass, so like it only tops
Speaker 2: up at thirty, so it's not so crazy fast.
Speaker 1: Someone said, uh uh, well, what do you do now
Speaker 1: for work? You said you're in school, but do you
Speaker 1: do work too?
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I do sales. I work at a wireless company
Speaker 2: selling cell phones.
Speaker 1: Totally thought you were gonna say you do e bike sales.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I tell cell phones. And it's been really
Speaker 2: boring because all of these new iPhones that are coming
Speaker 2: out are the same thing every year.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Someone asked, will you bring your mom to America? Your
Speaker 1: mom's your mom's already in America with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was the first one here and then she
Speaker 2: brought me over here.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Someone said, you can't look cool on an e bike.
Speaker 1: I disagree. I think I've seen some e bikes and
Speaker 1: I'm like, these would be really cool.
Speaker 2: Honestly, that was like my biggest concern because.
Speaker 1: That sounds like sounds like a lot of people in
Speaker 1: Chad are jealous that they don't have e bikes, is
Speaker 1: what I'm getting there.
Speaker 2: There's so much fun and they're like honestly, most people
Speaker 2: think they're like more expensive than they actually are. Every
Speaker 2: one for a thousand dollars on Amazon, and if you
Speaker 2: want to, you can pay monthly for it. If you
Speaker 2: want to pay monthly for it, I think it's like
Speaker 2: thirty dollars a month.
Speaker 1: Wow, I just have to pay this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just have to pay the shipping, which
Speaker 2: is like I think it was like two hundred or
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 1: Final question, someone says, Oh, do you have any other
Speaker 1: family members down there who are planning to come to
Speaker 1: the US.
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. I've asked multiple people, Like my
Speaker 2: dad lives on there, like you know, most of my family,
Speaker 2: like my grandparents. They they you know, now that the
Speaker 2: country's doing better, they don't want to leave. They're pretty
Speaker 2: happy over there.
Speaker 1: How long did it take for the country to do
Speaker 1: better and not be overtaken by gangs?
Speaker 2: There's a look into this president because he's been doing
Speaker 2: a lot of cool stuff. But his name is Naibu Kelle,
Speaker 2: so it's just a Salvadorian president. He's a younger guy.
Speaker 2: I think he's I forget how old. He's within forty
Speaker 2: to thirty age range. And he changed the country completely.
Speaker 2: He basically if you had Gang Tatoo's, if you wereang affiliated,
Speaker 2: you were going to jail. So everybody that's affiliated to
Speaker 2: that gang is currently in jail. And a brought down
Speaker 2: the crime rate like too crazy.
Speaker 1: Low, Wow, that sounds like, uh, what a crazy like
Speaker 1: thing to tackle, Like, how had he crack down on it?
Speaker 1: It must be like insane amounts of corruption to the
Speaker 1: deal with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he basically went into he went into the government.
Speaker 2: He did an investigation on everybody that worked under his
Speaker 2: you know name, and essentially fired anybody and through anybody
Speaker 2: that wasn't doing their job correctly obviously if they were
Speaker 2: breaking the lot and you know, to jail. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: So there's plenty of videos on YouTube about it. But
Speaker 2: it's pretty cool and it's not. The crazy thing is
Speaker 2: like not that many people know about it, and it's
Speaker 2: like two countries away on this side of the planet.
Speaker 1: Get fucked. All right, i gotta check out El Salvador.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it on my I want to travel,
Speaker 1: I want to go most places before I die. I
Speaker 1: think that's what you should do, is you should see stuff.
Speaker 1: So all right, I'll put it. I'll put El Salvador
Speaker 1: on my list. Yeah you like him, beautiful. Have a
Speaker 1: good night, Rolando, Thanks for colling.
Speaker 2: Take care nice.
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Speaker 1: across the United States this year, and that tickets are
Speaker 1: available right now at therapy geckotour dot com or at
Speaker 1: the link in the episode description. It is all true.
Speaker 1: I'm currently on my third tour doing Therapy Gecko Live
Speaker 1: all around the country and it is the most fun, sick,
Speaker 1: amazing thing ever and you should come out and be
Speaker 1: part of it. The shows involve a mix of material
Speaker 1: and presentations for myself combined with a group Gecko therapy
Speaker 1: session where members of the audience come on stage to
Speaker 1: share things from their lives in front of a big
Speaker 1: group of people, just like we do here on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Whether you're a fan of the podcast or you have
Speaker 1: no idea what this is and you clicked on it
Speaker 1: by accident, you're gonna have a great time at the
Speaker 1: live show once again. Tickets are available right now at
Speaker 1: therapy geckotour dot com or at the link in the
Speaker 1: episode description. These are really fun shows. They're always wild,
Speaker 1: they're always unpredictable, and I hope to see you guys there. Hello, Hi,
Speaker 1: what is your name?
Speaker 5: Hi?
Speaker 1: I'm Bean, Bean, what's up bean, I'm a gecko.
Speaker 3: Hi, nice to talk to you.
Speaker 1: How's life? Life is a little.
Speaker 3: Crazy, But I don't know. I guess I'm a good
Speaker 3: in a bad way.
Speaker 1: Life is a little crazy. It might actually be the
Speaker 1: craziest thing there ever was.
Speaker 3: I guess we wouldn't have anything else to compare it
Speaker 3: to otherwise, but it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you want to talk about today?
Speaker 3: So? As I said in my text, I am an
Speaker 3: online content creator, an online adult content creator, and I'm
Speaker 3: kind of living a double life. Like my parents don't
Speaker 3: know about it, Like I don't know, like I'm twenty nine.
Speaker 3: Was not necessarily like they have to know about it,
Speaker 3: but I am very close to them, and like I
Speaker 3: tell them, I so work at Walmart and I don't.
Speaker 3: And it's just like keeping track of all these lives
Speaker 3: isn't fun. And I'm like putting my faith out there
Speaker 3: and getting more popular. So I'm like, it's going to
Speaker 3: happen eventually, and I don't know how to address it.
Speaker 1: You're getting more popular? What's you your main platform?
Speaker 3: I post a lot on like Reddit and set life,
Speaker 3: and I'm starting to get more popular on Twitter or
Speaker 3: I guess X now mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And let me ask let me ask you this. Are
Speaker 1: you having fun?
Speaker 3: Yes, for the most part, I am having fun, But
Speaker 3: I don't know, like because I'm starting, like I'm actually
Speaker 3: doing this like full time now, like how I support myself.
Speaker 3: It's starting to feel like a job, like I guess,
Speaker 3: like at the end of the day, like and you
Speaker 3: think like you gets tired of it. Oh yeah, sometimes
Speaker 3: like I get so burnt out, like pretending that like
Speaker 3: I am more attracted to these guys than I really am,
Speaker 3: just like for the sake of making content.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, everything just becomes a job. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a I'm a this is my job
Speaker 1: as being a gecko and talking to people. And it's definitely,
Speaker 1: you know, while still fun, while still while a great,
Speaker 1: amazing job, still a job. You know. Yeah, it's so okay.
Speaker 1: So well, I guess fun maybe funds not the word
Speaker 1: fund's part of it. Are you are you sure? Are
Speaker 1: you enjoying it's Are you happy with it being what
Speaker 1: you are doing with your life?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: And no again, I like before this, all I was
Speaker 3: doing was like working in retail and I was going
Speaker 3: to be a chef, like I went to culinary school,
Speaker 3: and I being a chef is just not for me.
Speaker 3: It's way too stressful. So like all things considered, like
Speaker 3: this is way better than anything else I've ever done.
Speaker 3: I'm having fun. But I also like worry because you know,
Speaker 3: like there's such a stigma around like doing stuff like
Speaker 3: this and being a sex I mean, I guess I'm
Speaker 3: not necessarily sex worker, but I am. At the same time,
Speaker 3: I like worry because, like I put my face out there,
Speaker 3: so like if I choose one day to not do this, like,
Speaker 3: am I like fucking myself up in the future?
Speaker 1: You know, well, what in what way do you feel
Speaker 1: as though you're sucking yourself up in the future?
Speaker 3: Like if I don't know, I guess like I've always
Speaker 3: had the fear or the idea instilled me. Like everything
Speaker 3: on the internet last forever, and it's incredibly true. Like yeah,
Speaker 3: even if I delete everything, like people save stuff and
Speaker 3: like they can continue to post it so it doesn't disappear, right,
Speaker 3: So if like a future employer sees that and they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's not okay, and so another like I've made some
Speaker 3: content like at work, and like that's also like a
Speaker 3: reason like why God, It's like so popular. I didn't
Speaker 3: know what.
Speaker 1: Can I can I ask where you work? Were you,
Speaker 1: uh were sticking your penis sense of donut holes at
Speaker 1: the Chrispy Kreme?
Speaker 5: Yeah you caught me?
Speaker 3: No, I was. I was like taking my tips out
Speaker 3: of like the retail store I worked at, and nice.
Speaker 3: I got worried that I would eventually like get caught
Speaker 3: and people like start to recognize me in like anyways.
Speaker 3: Like I wasn't like overtly like saying like oh hey,
Speaker 3: this is where I work, but like people would recognize
Speaker 3: me like oh hey, I like your stuff, and like
Speaker 3: it made me worry. So I just quit And now
Speaker 3: this is what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, future employers, what yees? All right? I mean
Speaker 1: you're you're twenty nine, right, yeah, uh, you've been alive
Speaker 1: long enough that and while all these things could change,
Speaker 1: you've been alive long enough that you have some semblance
Speaker 1: of an idea of how you want to live, right, yeah, okay?
Speaker 3: What so.
Speaker 1: Like when you really break it down, in what way
Speaker 1: do you feel as though people knowing that you've you've
Speaker 1: done porn or whatever negatively interferes with that way that
Speaker 1: you want to live your life? Like that's the that's
Speaker 1: the real if you if like we've through all the
Speaker 1: bullshit and all the people being like, oh I've seen
Speaker 1: your tits, Like, that's the real question. It's the real
Speaker 1: question to ask yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I guess I don't know. My biggest fear
Speaker 3: is I just don't want to get fired from another
Speaker 3: job because you're like, oh, I don't want you taking.
Speaker 2: Your tits out here.
Speaker 3: You know, I understand that. But but are you not?
Speaker 1: I mean, is this is it a financial worry?
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 1: I assume are you? Are you making good money doing this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: A decent amount, okay, And and I don't know, Like
Speaker 3: I mainly like I'm just like on fansly and everything.
Speaker 3: I don't have an only fans anymore. But it's been
Speaker 3: pretty chill. And I guess I also worry about like
Speaker 3: my safety and everything, like because oh, sure, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm a single female and like I live alone, so
Speaker 3: like putting myself out there so publicly does that put
Speaker 3: me in danger as well?
Speaker 4: Enough?
Speaker 1: I sure so, But I guess, like I mean, do
Speaker 1: you for the future, do you want to work for
Speaker 1: yourself or do you want to get a job working
Speaker 1: for someone else?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I kind of like working for myself. I like
Speaker 3: having my own schedule and doing what I want when
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 1: I mean to get super practical. I mean if I
Speaker 1: were you, If I were you, I would just you know,
Speaker 1: do this for as long as you want to save up.
Speaker 1: Just like, do it for as long as you want
Speaker 1: to save some money. And then when you don't want
Speaker 1: to do it, take whatever money you saved and start
Speaker 1: something else. Yeah, because when you cause, we don't, I
Speaker 1: just I And this has nothing to This is not
Speaker 1: a like it could be sex worker, it could be anything.
Speaker 1: This is like we don't we don't live in a
Speaker 1: universe where your capacity to do things is so heavily
Speaker 1: gate kept by what other people think of you, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, we don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: we live in that universe so much anymore. And that's
Speaker 1: and that's why I don't think you you maybe have
Speaker 1: as much to worry about as you think fair enough.
Speaker 3: So I told you that, Like my parents don't know, right,
Speaker 3: and I'm I don't think that they would stop talking
Speaker 3: to me, like because of that, Bicyley, Judge me, I
Speaker 3: am worried about the possibility of my sister cutting off
Speaker 3: contact with me and my niece is just because she's
Speaker 3: just not like porn at all. I don't know if
Speaker 3: she'd ever do that, but I worry about things like
Speaker 3: that too.
Speaker 1: You know, that would be really sad. That would be
Speaker 1: that would be really sad. And I'm sor I'm and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear that you feel like your sister
Speaker 1: would do that.
Speaker 3: I hope she wouldn't, but you know, I get worried
Speaker 3: about these things.
Speaker 1: MM, well, do you want to plug? You can plug
Speaker 1: if you want.
Speaker 3: No, No, no, no, it's okay, okay.
Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry to hear about that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do because that makes me
Speaker 1: sad because, like I mean, I don't know. Man, if
Speaker 1: if I found out my sister was doing porn, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't give I wouldn't want to see it. But uh
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't give a shit. It's sheer,
Speaker 1: especially if she's twenty nine years old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am an adult and I can make my
Speaker 3: own decisions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would so? I mean, if you were to
Speaker 1: start another business, what would you do?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I guess I just I
Speaker 3: love being creative, and I actually found out that I
Speaker 3: like editing, So maybe like being a full time editor
Speaker 3: for somebody.
Speaker 2: If I wouldn't have to worry about like it's.
Speaker 3: My I feel like it's a lot easier if I'm
Speaker 3: working from home and not customer facing and worrying about
Speaker 3: like people recognizing men those things like that. But could you,
Speaker 3: like I just don't want to be like stocks or
Speaker 3: anything like that, so sure, sure, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: There's so many options I'm thinking about, like going back
Speaker 3: to school and everything too. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 3: know what I want to do with my life. I
Speaker 3: just want to be mostly happy.
Speaker 1: Well that's good. I think you'll be okay. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's an empty thing to say, but I
Speaker 1: feel that way.
Speaker 3: It's a comforting thing, like just like reminding yourself like
Speaker 3: you're going to be okay sometimes.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm gonna ask the chat if they have
Speaker 1: any questions for you? Is the chat? Do you have
Speaker 1: any questions? What's your name? Bean? To Chat? Do you
Speaker 1: have any questions for for Bean? What is Bean? I
Speaker 1: assume Bean is not your real name? No, that's did
Speaker 1: you how did you arrive at the name Bean, So.
Speaker 3: I don't even my mom used to call me Bean
Speaker 3: growing up, and it's something that popped in my head.
Speaker 1: Someone asked, Uh. Someone asked, what the craziest porn you
Speaker 1: have ever done?
Speaker 5: Is the crazy?
Speaker 3: I don't know, probably like doing a gang bang, or
Speaker 3: like a spit roast, or just like getting fucked in public.
Speaker 1: A spit roast. That sounds Does that hurt? That sounds painful?
Speaker 3: Well, it depends on how you do it. But if
Speaker 3: you have like somebody on each end, you know it's
Speaker 3: not too bad.
Speaker 1: Uh. Someone wants to know what the largest amount of
Speaker 1: money you've made is.
Speaker 3: I made a lot more on only fans like I.
Speaker 3: I think like the largest amount I made in a month,
Speaker 3: which's probably like four to.
Speaker 1: Five thousand, it's pretty good. Someone says, do you have
Speaker 1: friends who you can share this part of your life with?
Speaker 3: Yes, I have a couple of friends. I need more
Speaker 3: of them, but don't we all.
Speaker 1: Do you have other friends who are who also do
Speaker 1: this for a living?
Speaker 3: No, I need more content creator friends. Also, I need
Speaker 3: real therapist as well. But that's because I'm I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not unemployed. I'm self employed. I don't have a
Speaker 3: health insurance.
Speaker 1: At the moment. By the way, I'm just seeing a
Speaker 1: fucking real therapist is so Uh it's so hard to
Speaker 1: even if you're going through your insurance, it's so fucking
Speaker 1: hard to find one.
Speaker 3: That's a whole other issue.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: There's some more questions.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Someone wants to know how often do you leave feeling
Speaker 1: satisfied with your experience versus unhappy?
Speaker 3: I feel like a good seventy five percent of the time.
Speaker 3: I feel satisfied, but sometimes like things just like make
Speaker 3: me feel icky, you know. Uh.
Speaker 1: Then finally someone asked, are you saving money?
Speaker 3: No, I need to be. I have a trip coming
Speaker 3: up and I've been saving money for that, but I
Speaker 3: put down more money for other things.
Speaker 1: You know, well being thanks for Sharon. Yeah, someone suggested
Speaker 1: a roth ira this is This would be the second
Speaker 1: I'm on a new kick where I set up all
Speaker 1: my callers with wroth iras at the end of each call.
Speaker 5: What is that?
Speaker 1: It's like you put money into an account and then
Speaker 1: in a hundred years, when you're dead, it'll be worth
Speaker 1: more money. Being Is there anything else want to say
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go, And
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 3: So much for talking to me, Thank you chat for
Speaker 3: having interesting questions. I hope you all have a great NYE.
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I don't have anything else to say,
Speaker 3: just thank you, have.
Speaker 1: A good night being, thank you you too, goodbye. You
Speaker 1: know I've been thinking about it, and please let me
Speaker 1: know in the comments or the or the what did
Speaker 1: you think of this podcast? Spotify Interact fucking thing. I
Speaker 1: think retirement accounts are stupid. I opened one, I put
Speaker 1: a little bit of money in it, but I kind
Speaker 1: of think they're dumb because what I'm all right, so
Speaker 1: the wroth Ira you put okay, you pay taxes right
Speaker 1: on your money, and then after that you take that
Speaker 1: money and you put it in a roth Ira account
Speaker 1: and then you can invest it in the stock market,
Speaker 1: and then when you're sixty years I think sixty years old,
Speaker 1: you can take the gains out tax free. But you can't. Basically,
Speaker 1: you can't touch that money until you're sixty years old.
Speaker 1: So it's like, look, I might be who's I might
Speaker 1: be dead by then? What the fuck am I saving
Speaker 1: money for for a time when I'll be dead? I
Speaker 1: think it doesn't make any sense. And even if I'm
Speaker 1: not dead, Like let's say I make it to sixty.
Speaker 1: I'm probably I'm gonna only have like a couple of
Speaker 1: years after that, So don't open a retirement accounts. Spend
Speaker 1: all of your money on funkal pops and ice cream.
Speaker 1: That's my official and you can quote me on that.
Speaker 1: That's something I said and I mean, and I will
Speaker 1: never change my opinion on ever. And I and you
Speaker 1: know what, I am an official financial advisor. Keep that in. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not an official financial advisor. Never Hello, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? Hello?
Speaker 5: Are you the get go?
Speaker 1: Yes? Who are you?
Speaker 5: My name is Jay?
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: Jay?
Speaker 1: Joe? I asked you that twice? Didn't I?
Speaker 5: No, that's okay.
Speaker 1: I think I have like I I think I have
Speaker 1: like dementia or something. No, it's okay, I might it's
Speaker 1: really bad. Oh shit for really, No, I'm I'm I
Speaker 1: don't know who cares? What's your name? Again? That was real?
Speaker 1: That wasn't a jit, That wasn't a bit. I genuinely.
Speaker 5: I used to see like ghost as a kid, and
Speaker 5: sometimes I'm like, I'm ordering if it's real or if
Speaker 5: it was just me having schizophrenic episodes all the time.
Speaker 5: But then other people will come forward and be like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I've totally seen ghosts too, and so it makes me
Speaker 5: feel less crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, Jay, what's your name again? No, that was a joke.
Speaker 1: What do you want to talk about today? Uh?
Speaker 5: Well, it'd be cool if you could give me life advice.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I guess I could talk about ghost stories.
Speaker 5: I could talk about having cancer.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you want me to give you life advice? Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that'd be great about what?
Speaker 5: So? The thing is, I'm living with my parents, and
Speaker 5: I had to live with my parents because I got cancer,
Speaker 5: and I'm broke on my ass. I don't really feel
Speaker 5: like I'm living my life to the best that I
Speaker 5: can be, especially considering I nearly fucking died. I don't
Speaker 5: know how to proceed. I don't know how to go
Speaker 5: forward or to how to like rebuild my life back
Speaker 5: up to where it used to be because I feel
Speaker 5: like I've awful sense of independence and my parents are
Speaker 5: like kind of crazy but not really Like it's tolerable
Speaker 5: most days if I'm respectful, but sometimes like something will
Speaker 5: happen and it'll flare up and then I sort of
Speaker 5: like claim show up again. But would you say free rent?
Speaker 5: But emotional distress. Should I stay living at home, save
Speaker 5: up money, get the fuck out of the country, or
Speaker 5: move out don't have a lot of money, I might
Speaker 5: potentially not be able to move to my dream country.
Speaker 2: What is your advice? Good serve?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have advice. I have questions.
Speaker 1: Or do you still have cancer? Nope?
Speaker 5: Intermission as of March.
Speaker 1: Well look at that, well, look at that you have
Speaker 1: the you have you have. You have something more important
Speaker 1: than money, which is you're not dead. This is good
Speaker 1: because think about think about how broke dead people are.
Speaker 5: They don't got no money, no assets. Everything's to their
Speaker 5: next of kin. I mean, sometimes you die and you
Speaker 5: leave behind sounds of dead right when?
Speaker 1: But when when you leave, when you leave something behind,
Speaker 1: that means you don't have it anymore. So when you
Speaker 1: leave behind your money, you go broke. The Elon Musk
Speaker 1: when he dies, I'm going to be richer than him.
Speaker 1: He'll have he will have own money in the after.
Speaker 1: You will be richer than Elon Musk when he dies.
Speaker 1: So think about all the wealth that you have right
Speaker 1: there in that that you're not dead.
Speaker 2: Good thing I didn't so I'm super rich.
Speaker 1: I mean for real, you actually are super rich because
Speaker 1: you didn't die. That's amazing. What so now you're how
Speaker 1: long have you been in remission?
Speaker 5: Only a couple of months?
Speaker 1: So okay.
Speaker 5: My plan was I'm going to stay in the country
Speaker 5: for as long as I'm in remission until in cancer free,
Speaker 5: just because I feel like it's a nightmare to like
Speaker 5: go to another country and like deal with health bullshit
Speaker 5: while potentially not having insurance in that country. I think
Speaker 5: they could go to Japan. I hear they have good
Speaker 5: foreigners insurance.
Speaker 1: But do you do you have any money? Do you
Speaker 1: have any savings?
Speaker 5: Honestly no, I'm like in the negatives because I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: I have a job now I can like go on
Speaker 5: these little trips. And then they fired me, Like do
Speaker 5: you have a job now? Nope? I'm still looking.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean you're and you're you're twenty three, yep,
Speaker 1: why here's years. I feel like I feel like more
Speaker 1: and more I'm becoming like a fine of personal finance
Speaker 1: gecko or something. If I how long you've been looking
Speaker 1: for a job.
Speaker 5: I got fired Monday, So since then.
Speaker 1: What was your job?
Speaker 5: I was working at a coffee shop. It was honestly,
Speaker 5: I really loved it. The environment was great, my coworkers
Speaker 5: are nice.
Speaker 2: But I just showed up to late.
Speaker 5: I just showed up late to work literally every day.
Speaker 5: So that was fair understandable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a great day.
Speaker 5: The other half they fired me. I was like, I
Speaker 5: probably don't want to say it out loud because I
Speaker 5: feel like it'll give me away.
Speaker 1: But that being said, wow, what do you mean gave you?
Speaker 1: Give you away?
Speaker 5: Oh? I just kind of want to. I don't want to,
Speaker 5: like give the I don't want to give this company
Speaker 5: ship because I think the way they handled the situation
Speaker 5: was really poor. But that's my personal opinion.
Speaker 1: Was it Starbucks?
Speaker 5: No, it was not Starbucks. I'm actually applying for Starbucks both.
Speaker 1: Was it uh, Duncan Donuts?
Speaker 5: No, Dutch Bros.
Speaker 1: Coffee shop? I can easily guess that. I'll just go
Speaker 1: down the list of coffee shops. Okay, okay, was it
Speaker 1: Dutch Bros. No? Was it Tim Horton's No. Fuck, I
Speaker 1: don't know any other coffee shops.
Speaker 5: That's okay. I give you for trying.
Speaker 1: Good job, but I guess back to your situation, why
Speaker 1: don't you just fucking you want an Actually, I actually
Speaker 1: I think I actually have advice. I mean, how bad, Like,
Speaker 1: how bad is your situation with your parents?
Speaker 5: Well, most of the time they can be civil and
Speaker 5: have definitely grown a backbone over the years and been
Speaker 5: able to like establish better boundaries with them. But it's
Speaker 5: honestly really stressful, like kind of being in an environment
Speaker 5: where I'm like semi controlled all the time and do
Speaker 5: and like queer and they're homophobic, so that's really stressful too.
Speaker 1: Do they hit you? No?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, are you do you feel like you're in
Speaker 1: an in danger at all?
Speaker 5: So not anymore, is the short answer.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's the long answer?
Speaker 5: The long answer is they were kind of shitty when
Speaker 5: I was younger, but I think they just had their
Speaker 5: own mental shit they couldn't deal with that affected their
Speaker 5: ability to be good parents. And on top of that,
Speaker 5: they just kind of never really addressed any of their
Speaker 5: mental issues. So I feel like it's sort of like
Speaker 5: ricocheted back on to me, and that was like super
Speaker 5: stressful to grow up with. But now that I'm an
Speaker 5: adult and like getting cancer definitely kind of like soften
Speaker 5: them up a bit. Unfortunately, unfortunately, like terrible, terrible things
Speaker 5: happening to you brings people closer to you, is my experience,
Speaker 5: which is not ideal.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well, what's your dream country that you.
Speaker 2: Said, Australia?
Speaker 1: Love Australia. Why Australia.
Speaker 5: I did a study abroad there, like right before I
Speaker 5: got cancer, and then it was like amazing. It was
Speaker 5: it was like they had literally beaches along the coast
Speaker 5: and like the it was just so like.
Speaker 1: No offense that no offense to Australians. But it's just like,
Speaker 1: I mean, Australia's fucking It's like if you had told
Speaker 1: me that your dream country was somewhere less expensive than America,
Speaker 1: which is most places, which is most places really, but
Speaker 1: Australia I think might be more.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a million dollars to my house.
Speaker 1: So you want to go to you want to move
Speaker 1: to Australia.
Speaker 5: Yes, ideally that would be a very wonderful.
Speaker 3: Life goal.
Speaker 5: Bucket list item.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you have a degree of any kind? And anything?
Speaker 2: I do in what?
Speaker 3: Art studies?
Speaker 1: Art studies? Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, it'll be fine, I'll get a
Speaker 5: degree in something I like doing, and now I cannot
Speaker 5: get a proper job.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, you kind of fucked yourself a
Speaker 1: little bit. It's okay. It's up. By the way, I
Speaker 1: just want to say it's okay to admit when you've
Speaker 1: taken an l there's no shame in it. Really, it
Speaker 1: really is. But I really, genuinely I mean this. If
Speaker 1: I were you for the rest of my life, I
Speaker 1: would actually just look at every I would just add,
Speaker 1: but at least I didn't die of cancer. To the
Speaker 1: end of every single thing he ever said, I mean,
Speaker 1: anyone anyway, you don't have to You don't even have
Speaker 1: to have had cancer to do that. You know, you
Speaker 1: can do that. If you never had cancer, you could
Speaker 1: be like, oh I got a flat I could be like,
Speaker 1: oh I got a flat tire and I'm locked out
Speaker 1: of my apartment. But at least I didn't get shot
Speaker 1: in the head just now, and you can.
Speaker 5: You can.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of happiness in that. There really is
Speaker 1: an unlimited amount of happiness in that. Here's what I
Speaker 1: think is, why don't you, like, do you you need
Speaker 1: you need like a logistical plan. You need to like
Speaker 1: go on the fucking internet and look up and find
Speaker 1: a dollar amount that that you need in your bank
Speaker 1: account for you to you need a plan you need
Speaker 1: a dollar amount that it would cost to execute that plan,
Speaker 1: and then another plan uh as to how you are
Speaker 1: going to save up that dollar amount. So you need
Speaker 1: two plans. That's my advice is to go on the internet, chat, GPT,
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck and develop and execute those two plans.
Speaker 5: Okay, I appreciate that. Appreciate that you.
Speaker 1: Have you looked into this ship? Have you? Have you
Speaker 1: gone moving to Australia Reddit on Google and seeing what's up?
Speaker 5: Oh shit, I didn't think about Reddit. I don't mostly
Speaker 5: like looking up travel agencies.
Speaker 1: But a lot of them are travel agencies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like they'll be there's like international travel agencies, at
Speaker 5: least for Australia, and they can if you pay the money,
Speaker 5: they help you like establish which visa you can use.
Speaker 1: And by the way, by the way, by the way,
Speaker 1: bye way, by the way, before you move to Australia,
Speaker 1: before you buy a visa, you know, take a trip.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's where I did my study abroad.
Speaker 1: Oh right, okay, you told me that, told me that,
Speaker 1: All right, so you've been all right? I mean, how
Speaker 1: much is a visa?
Speaker 5: It was a lot. Well for a visiting visa. It's
Speaker 5: only like I think three and fifty American dollars.
Speaker 2: I am really.
Speaker 1: Sure that's like nothing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah for just like a work in it's
Speaker 5: like a it's like a work and vacation visa or
Speaker 5: something and you can pay there for like six months.
Speaker 5: And that's the one I got, so like, yeah, this
Speaker 5: is if you want to go to Australia, this is
Speaker 5: your call. You don't get a visa and then but
Speaker 5: the thing is to say there permanently. You can either
Speaker 5: like recycle that visa every year, or you can like
Speaker 5: find some way to like have a job sponsor you are,
Speaker 5: like uh, or like if you have a family member
Speaker 5: in Australia, you can like you connect with them or something.
Speaker 5: But this is just like honestly, I'm talking out of
Speaker 5: my ass, Like I have no fucking clue how to
Speaker 5: get any of this done. I just know it exists
Speaker 5: and can happen, but I don't know how to. Like
Speaker 5: I feel like the hot take would be like, oh,
Speaker 5: get a job to sponsor me, but then like they're
Speaker 5: probably going to really overwork me, and the whole reason
Speaker 5: why I want to be in Australia so I can
Speaker 5: go to the beach, like the really cool.
Speaker 1: The whole reason you want to go to Australia's to
Speaker 1: go to the beach. Yeah, okay, hold on, dude, if
Speaker 1: I seriously all dude, dude, dude, If all you want
Speaker 1: to do is like work as little as possible and
Speaker 1: go to the beach, there are eight billion other countries
Speaker 1: that are way better to do that in than Australia.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Well, for really you can do that, but just Australia
Speaker 1: is the worst place to do it. It's it's too expensive.
Speaker 5: Huh okay, fair enough, fair enough, Like.
Speaker 1: Go to fucking if. I mean, if you really wanted to,
Speaker 1: you could get it. You could live in your parents'
Speaker 1: house for two years and never leave your room and
Speaker 1: save up all your money and then take it to
Speaker 1: some random town in Southeast Asia and just hang out
Speaker 1: there for a while. And you know, I just Australia
Speaker 1: is just the worst place for you to do this plan.
Speaker 1: I think we'll go crazy. I don't know. It's your life,
Speaker 1: it's your life, that's my only My only advice to
Speaker 1: you is to come up with a dollar amount that
Speaker 1: you need to do whatever you want to do, and
Speaker 1: then a plan on how you're going to get there.
Speaker 1: It's my own advice. And to also just be like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I didn't die of cancer, Like we're chills. I want
Speaker 1: to tell you I was. I was with my friend
Speaker 1: and we were like, we were in d C. And
Speaker 1: we were walking by the water and we wanted to
Speaker 1: smoke a joint and we were like, we asked this
Speaker 1: guy for a lighter. He was like taking some shit
Speaker 1: out of his car. Uh, he was ripped. He was
Speaker 1: super ripped. He had a shirt on it. He had
Speaker 1: a shirt on that said I Love Jesus. And he
Speaker 1: was like, he was like, let me go. I think
Speaker 1: I have a lighter in my car. And we were like,
Speaker 1: how you doing today, man? And he was like he
Speaker 1: looked us, he like made he made really sincere eye
Speaker 1: contact into both of our eyes, not at once that
Speaker 1: would look funny, but and he said very sincerely. He said,
Speaker 1: I'm doing incredible. I woke up today like like as
Speaker 1: if we were as if we were like crazy for
Speaker 1: asking he was. He's like, I woke up, I'm breathing,
Speaker 1: and he and my friend and I just thought about
Speaker 1: that all day. Just this guy. It's really impacted us.
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, that guy, he really knows
Speaker 1: the fucking secret to life. This guy. Uh so you
Speaker 1: know carry that and uh, Australia sucks. No, Australia doesn't suck.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean that. I actually like I like Australia
Speaker 1: a lot. It's just expensive compared to anywhere else you
Speaker 1: can escape your life to go to.
Speaker 5: That's real, that's real. It's beautiful. But I guess what city?
Speaker 1: What city do you want to go to?
Speaker 2: The worst one?
Speaker 5: Sydney?
Speaker 1: So why hold on? Why is it the word? Why
Speaker 1: is I I had a great time in city? Why
Speaker 1: is Sydney the worst one?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: It's it's like financially it's the worst one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it's also.
Speaker 5: The tourist part, so it's like impossible to buy a
Speaker 5: house in if you want to go to the Astralia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went. I did a tour of Australia. I
Speaker 1: went to Sydney. I played a show there. I I
Speaker 1: went into a stranger's home and I jammed with them.
Speaker 1: We met music together. It was crazy. It was a
Speaker 1: good time. Yeah.
Speaker 5: That sounds like that sounds like the ideal Australia experience.
Speaker 1: You can have that experience in any place. Yeah, what's
Speaker 1: your name again? R? Jay?
Speaker 3: Jay.
Speaker 1: It was Jay, right. Yeah, Look who has to mention now?
Speaker 1: Not not your boy?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Jay, is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 1: the people the computer before we go?
Speaker 5: I guess do all the things you want to do
Speaker 5: with life, because you never know when you'll end up
Speaker 5: in a hospital bed.
Speaker 1: Hey, take care of Jay, have a good one.
Speaker 5: Oh, thank you you too, Bye bye.
Speaker 4: Never Becon goes on the line making your phone calls
Speaker 4: every night. Never Beacon goes to nice Hide. You're just
Speaker 4: teaching you about good life. Money's not gonna be an expert.