1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. We welcome now our 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio and television audiences. Robinhood is posting second quarter 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: revenue that beat Wall Street estimates, boosted my strength and 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: cryptocurrency trading. We're joined now by Robinhood, chairman and CEO 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: of lad Tenev and your backup on the day, you're 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: bringing your year to date gains for Robinhood closer and 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: closer to two hundred percent. Your stock has just soared 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: this year. Do you feel pressure at that valuation now 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: to increase your growth rate to meet investor expectations. 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: I think we're always challenging ourselves to serve our customers 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: better and consequently grow the business. But if you're asking 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: if I'm like looking at the stock and triving to 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: trying to drive that directly, no, I mean we're looking 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: at the inputs to our business and right now what 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: we're seeing is our customers are happy. Net promoter scores 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: are at a four year high. It's leading to net 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 2: deposits which have been very strong through July, and that's 18 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: leading to gains and market share across all of the assets. 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: And you're seeing that in revenue and EPs, which have 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: been very, very strong as well, and you know, we're 21 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 2: having these product events where we're announcing products that are 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: I think, far ahead of where the rest of the 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: industry is. So I don't think it's slowing down where 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: if anything, accelerating further. 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: By the way, more than four hundred and twenty percent 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 3: over the past twelve months, you're worth almost one hundred 27 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: billion dollars. You're now worth a lot more than Intel, 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: which for an old guy like me, that's that's a 29 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: real milestone. Where do you see the biggest growth? I 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: know you're expanding overseas. We talked to you last time 31 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: about tokenization. What's the biggest shooting star at Robinhood? 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 2: I think if you look long term, the big potential 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: that I see for Robinhood is how can we expand 34 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: across two different axis. One is from being US only 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: or US primary to being fully global available to billions 36 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: of people around the world. And the other is can 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: we go from being retail only and serving the full 38 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: wallet of a retail customer and being this sort of 39 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: like financial super app to a full platform that serves 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: not just retail but businesses and institutions. And you know, 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: we're getting into that through some of the acquisitions that 42 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: we're making and through organic platform expanse. 43 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: But by the way, could I live on Robinhood now? 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 3: I mean, could I have Bloomberg deposit my paycheck with 45 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: you and pay all my bills with you, and you know, 46 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: get a loan from you and do my trading with you. 47 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: Are you looking at that full suite and how fast. 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: Can you get there? 49 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: You can do the Lion's share of that. Robinhood Banking 50 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: is actually rolling out later this quarter. We're still on 51 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: track for that. It's now rolled out internally to our 52 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: thousands of employees and it's looking really good. So that'll 53 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: allow you to put in your paycheck, get checking savings accounts. 54 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: You don't have to go to the ATM. We figured 55 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: out how to get cash to you to where you are. 56 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: For those of others that still use cash, you can 57 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: do your estate planning. We have home loans partnership with 58 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: Sage that lets you have a mortgage at an industry 59 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: leading rate. And of course you're trading, you're investing your advisory, 60 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: so we can help you with the Lion's share of that. 61 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: I didn't even mention the credit card, but you saw 62 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: my credit card last time. I think it's the best 63 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: credit card on the market. 64 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: So you were talking about Robinhood Banking launching to a 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: broader audience soon, But what does that put you in 66 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: terms of your relationship to the broader banking industry. You 67 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: just saw about a day ago, JP Morgan and Coinbase 68 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: inking a deal to allow wallets to be more linked 69 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: to bank accounts. 70 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: Are you going to be partnering with. 71 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: Banks or are you running in direct competition to them? 72 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: I think that as our companies become bigger and bigger 73 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: and just diversify into more segments, the relationship with counter 74 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: parties will be collaborative and will partner in some ways. 75 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: And of course, in the broad sense, every financial company 76 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: competes with every other one if your goal is to 77 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: get customer assets and greater wallet share. But yeah, I 78 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: think it's it's nothing. In the financial services industry, the 79 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: large companies have always like collaborated and competed across different axes. 80 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: So to mass point a little earlier, one year growing tremendously, 81 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 1: you have stock as currency to do so, you're became 82 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: worth more than Intel. How much firepower does that give 83 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: you for a transformative acquisition? Could you do something much 84 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: bigger and what are the types of places you'd. 85 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: Look Yeah, uh interesting, I've never I've never had Intel 86 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: brought up as a comp but I see what you 87 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: mean about that being historically you know, these companies that 88 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: you think of is very infrastructured. 89 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: NIC's an iconic company if you grew up with it 90 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: like me, you know, and then yeah, I mean, it 91 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 3: eclipsed it. 92 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: Even being in the same conversation as those brands is humbling. 93 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: I think We've always been very deliberate with acquisitions, so 94 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: we want to make sure it pencils and it makes 95 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 2: sense for the company. It gives us eighteen month acceleration 96 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: to the product roadmap. We get a team that's like 97 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: DNA culture aligned with us because we like to move fast, 98 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: and we have very very high bar for talent and 99 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: if all those are met. We've been pretty active, as 100 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure you're aware, in the acquisition market. So I 101 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: wouldn't say, you know, I have a particular itch, but 102 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: we've got a great corp DEV team and we tend 103 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: to look at every opportunity that comes up. 104 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 3: You became a household name during the first wave of 105 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: retail trading post pandemic retail trading, and now we've seen 106 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: that pick up again. In fact, a lot of investors 107 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: or bankers come on this show and say, it's really retailed. 108 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: It's bought this thirty percent surge from the bottom of April, 109 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: and institutional investors have to catch up. Can that hold? 110 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: Have we seen a fundamental shift in the way people invest? 111 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: I think the fundamental shift is that if you think 112 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: about you know, institutional investing, all these fund managers, it's 113 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 2: very abstracted. So I think they tend to make decisions 114 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: about portfolio allocation based on macro factors. You know, tariffs, 115 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: geopolitical conflict, let me use that to rebalance the portfolio, 116 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 2: And so you end up having somewhat strange things where 117 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: a company that is unaffected or perhaps benefits from that 118 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: type of uncertainty could just get sold off because of 119 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: broader macro. Now retail doesn't think that way. Retail says, 120 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: I want to buy this stock because I believe in 121 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: this particular company, and so you see them doing very 122 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: very well in the scenarios where you know, broad market 123 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: activity affects companies that are otherwise doing very very well 124 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: and shouldn't be unaffected. But you know, institutions hands are 125 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: basically forced because they have to reallocate, and I think 126 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: that's a positive. It's a positive thing. We've gotten so 127 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: abstracted that I think we need to get back to 128 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: the basics of people buying stocks because they believe in 129 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: that particular company and not because of some sectual correlation 130 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: that may or may not actually exist. 131 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: Well, it's great to get some time with you, Glad, 132 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: especially here in New York on set with us Latin 133 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: of they're the CEO of Robinhood this. 134 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me