1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Ladies, and you want experience during your football season, Well, 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: buckle up, sweet cheeks. What we've got all the experience 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: in the world. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: This is I Want Your Flex. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: With Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: down everything you need to set your lineups, from position 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: rankings to starts and sits. The guys help you make 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: those hard decisions. And now let's get your Flex ond. 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: Here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: It is that time of year, and it's another year 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: of the I Want Your Flex podcast. Find Mike on 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: ex at Swollen Dumb, find him in Blue Skuy's well 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: at Mike Harmon. You can find me at Dampire on 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: Box and also at the Empire of Blues. Guy. Ian 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: Roddy is our executive producer. Ian is not here today, 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: he's pulling different duty at Fox Sports Radio. So you 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: got Mike and I in our premiere episodes of the 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five NFL And Mike, let's start out with 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: the position that sometimes gets overlooked but really is the 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: most important when it comes to a team building situation, 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: but fantasy wise, the quarterbacks. It's so funny to me 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: to see how and how much we're debating on running backs, 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: wide receivers, tight ends, and everybody's just like, yeah, I'll 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: just take a quarterback. But I feel quarterbacks are just 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: as essential to fantasy football as they are to real football. Yeah. 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: The difficulty has always been the case, and you and 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: I've been doing this a long long time, is that 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: once upon a time you had the Magnificent seven or thereabouts, 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: the guys that played every week and that you can 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: just set and forget, you know, two guys named Manning, 31 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: the Brady character, Ad Breeze, and a couple others and 32 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: away you went. Now it's shuffle up because the gaudy 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: numbers aren't necessarily there. You look at the last three years. 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: Last year you had five guys top thirty passing touchdowns, 35 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three had four, twenty twenty two you had four. 36 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: But now you add all these guys with rushing touchdowns 37 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: and they're rushing exploits and it's changed the game immenseally. 38 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: But I still am curious as to how you come 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: out as well, Dan of you know where that divide 40 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: is at the quarterback position, because it seems to me, 41 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: if you don't get one of those top two or 42 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: three guys, they all start to look kind of the same. 43 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're exactly right, And I think the divide is 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: I say it's at four for as much as I 45 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: think we believe. And I'll just take Joe Burrow as 46 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: an example of how bad the Bengals offenses or defense 47 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: is going to be and what their offense is going 48 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: to need to do. Joe Burrow's not going to get 49 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: you twelve rushing touchdowns, you know, So that's where I 50 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: find the difference. And he could throw for fifty four 51 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: hundred yards and you have thirty five touchdowns. But when 52 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: you have someone who can get you double digit touchdowns 53 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: on the ground at some point, that just takes over 54 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 3: everything when it comes to the quarterback position and fantasy 55 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: points wise. That's why I just think that the runners, 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 3: the guys who can give you both passing yards, passing touchdowns, 57 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: rushing yards and rushing touchdowns are just kind of in 58 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: a class of themselves. 59 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just seems, you know, we get the first 60 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: two guys off the board. You pick your poison. 61 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: Do you yell or Jackson? 62 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Or you sing Alan Jackson songs just to tout 63 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: yourself there, singing way down the Yonder by the Chattahoochee 64 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: and away we go. Uh you know hey, and you 65 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: know get now, I've got it somewhat adding to their 66 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: playlist right now wherever you are, I thank you, But 67 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: yeah it's Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. And then it becomes 68 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: the Okay, how much do I love that next group 69 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: of guys? Do I believe in a bounce back? You 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: know for one of the starwarts of yesteryear and Patrick 71 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: Mahomes you mentioned Burrow, you know you're not getting the 72 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: rushing work, or are you looking at one of the 73 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: young guys to break through, or maybe that somehow you 74 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: got bubble wrap for guys who've been injured on occasion. 75 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a really interesting position. But certainly I've 76 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: done a couple of mock drafts and I just finished 77 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: one the day before we sat down to record this, 78 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: and you know, it was a super flex League. So 79 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: it absolutely bastardizes everything. But just in the general discussion, 80 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: it's the all right, I need all the wide receivers 81 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: I can get because even the running back position starts 82 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: to get pushed a little bit anymore. 83 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I'm gonna come up with. A 84 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: New Country artist Daniel S. Hurts. So there's Jade and Daniels. 85 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts as the next one, because that seems to 86 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,119 Speaker 3: be three and four. I think there is a question 87 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: on whether Burrow could overtake a Jalen Hurts. Could he 88 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 3: overtake a Jayden Daniels. I'm not necessarily sure what the 89 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: Commanders are doing with their running games since Brian Robinson's 90 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 3: on the trading block, but I do think that Burrow 91 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 3: has an opportunity to take Hurts down in maybe the 92 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 3: he goes having a bit of a regression from the 93 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: great Super Bowl season. But outside of that, I don't 94 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 3: see anybody else cracking that top four. 95 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: No, I think that's it right. It's really kind of 96 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: I think a five man race when you add Burrow 97 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: in there. Jen Daniels to me is a whole different, 98 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: longer discussion. But for Jalen Hurts, right, Dickerson already had 99 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 2: to have surgery. They hope he's back for the opener. 100 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley, are you banking on another two thousand yard season? 101 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm certainly not. I mean, given injury history, and let's 102 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: face it, you're playing for January, which means I think 103 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: you mix in some of these other guys along the way, 104 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: not that you want to give up games in the 105 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 2: regular season because the NFC got better, but you also 106 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: need to make sure that he's ready to go after 107 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: what was such a monster workload a year ago. The 108 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 2: thing with Hurtz is you're looking at four straight years 109 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: with the double digit touchdowns. The tush push has not 110 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: yet been banned, and he's got one hundred and thirty 111 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: nine or more carries each of those last four years, 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: so you know, week to week giving you the weekly 113 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: carry account. But it also is the exposure of you know, 114 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: at some point, does he take the hit that sends 115 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 2: him to the sideline for a game or two? Right, guys, 116 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: the year of living dangerously is really what it comes 117 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: down to. So anytime I can start going into one 118 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: of these top four guys, if I'm so lucky in 119 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: the draft order and I make that my fortune, I'm 120 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: certainly coming back for a second quarterback a lot earlier 121 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: than I would have otherwise. 122 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: Then let's get to that second tier. Those second tier 123 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: of guys that we've got Patrick Mahomes. We don't have 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 3: to include Joe Burrow in it. Because I think we 125 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: feel that he's the top of that tier. Anyway. Baker 126 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: Mayfield another one. Now there's a little bit of question 127 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: on the health of the Buccaneers receivers. We have Chris 128 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 3: Godwin being activated, Jayleen McMillan being dinged up, and Mecha 129 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 3: Buka is getting rave reviews. So you have the Baker 130 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 3: in that situation. Bo Nix is another name that's popular. 131 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 3: There's always the Kyler Murray's of the world. You know 132 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 3: how much I love dak Who do you see? How 133 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: do you see it playing underneath a guy like Joe 134 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: Burrow if he's number five? 135 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, the curiosity, you know, Just to not to belabor 136 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: the Jaden Daniels point, though, is a little step up 137 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: in class schedule wise, they've got the AFC West still 138 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: some issues mentioned the backfield, but certainly in the receiving core, 139 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: Like what happens if Terry McLaurin decides to hang around 140 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: and not get get to work. How does that But 141 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Deebo Samuel's your number one? Yeah, yeah, 142 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: that breaks pretty badly, even though well, hey, now we 143 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: got TV watching to do too. But Jaden Daniels last 144 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: year are nearly nine hundred rushing yards and the six touchdowns. 145 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: That's why we start to push him with the Jaalen 146 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: Hurt side of things. But again, you know a little 147 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: different year two, and we're not talking wins and losses, 148 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: but just straight from fantasy. You know, how much more 149 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: does he improve on what was a thirty five hundred yard, 150 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: twenty five touchdown passing season with the weapons that are 151 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: currently in tow that's the curiosity for me. But that 152 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: next batch, right Mahomes, can he even rEFInd the discover 153 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: the forum? Travis Kelsey doing all his you know, hey, 154 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: I'm a better, better athlete again because I'm not on tour. 155 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: I joked about it with you last summer. It's like 156 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: he was doing all the tour stops in Europe. Brought 157 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: worse than beer and everything hanging out on the Taylor 158 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: Swift Tour. Still had a great year for almost any 159 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: tight end that isn't named Travis Kelcey. Yeah, right, didn't 160 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: find the end zone, but still put up some numbers. 161 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: But for Mahomes, you're looking over the last couple of years, 162 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: fifty three touchdowns against twenty five picks as opposed to 163 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: the ridiculous run he had in twenty twenty one to 164 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: twenty three, I see him on average sixth and that's 165 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 2: just tough, even though I think you've got a better 166 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: receiving corps. Eventually Rashid Rice is going to face the suspension. 167 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: How long's he gone? Six games? Eight games? It's going 168 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: to be a huge detriment to what they're trying to do. 169 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: So you know, he's a guy that I would take 170 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 2: the under on if you're doing betting odds of you 171 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: know that six position where he currently sits. So I 172 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: moved down there. Bo Nicks. They make a trade in 173 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: the receiving corps, but it looks like they're pretty happy 174 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: with some of the young guys that have come in. 175 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: And last year, you know, he was a rookie and 176 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: he finished twelfth to passing yards. We have to believe 177 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: year two even better with Sean Payton. So you know, 178 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: bo Nick's a guy on the way up. Name that 179 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: you'll hear a lot over the next couple of weeks 180 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: when we talk about Pat Bryant and maybe Surefield breaks 181 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: in behind Casutton and Mims. As we go forward, Tony 182 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: Franklin getting a little bit of run. So you're talking 183 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: about depth and opportunity. Evan Ingram gives you a trusted 184 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: tight end well fantasy purposes. We've been burned by him, 185 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: so it's awful tough to go back to that well. 186 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: But certainly you've got at least guys that are become 187 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: check pieces for Peyton and for bow Nicks, so they 188 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: take a step forward. Dak, I love the potential there. 189 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: We've seen him at his best two years ago, thirty 190 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: six and nine with his forty five hundred yards. I 191 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: don't know how quickly you know the Micah Parsons issues 192 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: resolves itself, and it really doesn't matter. I've said this 193 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: all along with the Trey Hendricks hendrickson side of things 194 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. My defense was bad with him. It just 195 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: gives me a star to chase around and to give 196 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: me some highlight reels. But in the end they're gonna 197 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: give up a bunch of points. So if Dak can 198 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: stay up right, I think I agree with you. We 199 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: go odds evens thirty seven to ten, then twenty three, fifteen, 200 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: thirty six nine, last year eleven and eight in injury, 201 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: which means he's due for another big year. 202 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: Right, yes, absolutely, Now, the mobility may not be there 203 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: because again coming off of another injury. However, I think 204 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: he's gonna throw the ball around the field almost just 205 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: as much as Joe Burrow's going to do it. In Cincinnati, 206 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: we'll see different coaching regime obviously with Brian Schottenheimer now 207 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: in maybe not, maybe not to the extreme that Mike 208 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: McCarthy had Dak at certain times. However, I just I 209 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 3: don't see them doing anything well, Mike, if Dak isn't 210 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 3: throwing the football to Seedee Lamb, And isn't that why 211 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: you trade for George Pickens as well? Like those are 212 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: the reasons their running back room is still whatever for 213 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 3: the second story year. It just it all signs point 214 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 3: to Dak as being that shining star pun intended for 215 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys. 216 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you look at the George Pickens acquisition, right, 217 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: He's a guy that you're gonna need to feed downfield 218 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: if you want to keep him happy. You know, Pittsburgh 219 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: showing that great result. They do a great job in 220 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 2: drafting guys, and then they usually look around and say, 221 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: all right, this is turning right co on, So we'll 222 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: see what Pickens can do. But you add him and 223 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: Lamb together and then they paid They paid Jake Ferguson 224 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: a ton of mo Yeah, so I gotta think with 225 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: Pickens and Lamb taking the top off whatever Tolbert or 226 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: you know, Mingo's healthy enough to go and whatever else, 227 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: that Ferguson's going to scrape over the middle and catch 228 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: a ton of passes. So I think there's opportunity there all. 229 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 3: Right, as we wrap up this top portion at least 230 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: of the quarterbacks and we'll get to the to the 231 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 3: layers underneath. It does sound like you're not as high 232 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: on Jayden Daniels as we look at this group of five, 233 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: six or seven as a whole. Is that fair to say, Mike? 234 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the biggest issue I have is, you know, 235 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 2: we watched a lot of narrow escapes last year, and 236 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: again separating wins from fantasy, the amount of rushing acumen. 237 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: I always want to see that a second time to 238 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: see how that breaks through, and there is concern in 239 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: that receiving core. Last year, Terry McLaurin was highly efficient, 240 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: right thirteen touchdowns career best for him, and a lot 241 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: of that was Daniel's making plays, but with the amount 242 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: of carries he had a year ago looking at the 243 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: red zone because now we're banking on the rushing total 244 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: to really take him over, and with a better schedule 245 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: ahead of him again afc wes, I mean we cop 246 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: to Chargers in theory having a better defense. The Raiders 247 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: at least have a good defensive front. I we'll see 248 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: what happens there. And Denver acknowledges one of the top 249 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: three defenses. Again, it's only a couple of games on 250 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: the schedule, but that's the strength of the at least 251 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: the Giants, right, not great example of what offense might be, 252 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: but their defense is pretty readily acknowledged as being a strength. 253 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: Dallas is what they are, and Philly can get after it. 254 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: So you know, there's not as exactly the easy path. 255 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 2: It's the wishing and hope because we need new stars, 256 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: no question about it, but perhaps a little reticent to 257 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: crown him just yet. 258 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 3: How far would you drop him? 259 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: I don't think he goes anywhere past five though. I 260 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: think five is where it stops. It's Allen and Jackson again, 261 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: make your jokes, Jalen, Hurts, Daniels and Burrow I think 262 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: are the top five ahead of everybody. 263 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: All Right, there's Harmon's top five. As we look at 264 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: the top side of the quarterbacks in our preseason special 265 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: coming up next, we're going to take a look at 266 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: maybe the guy's lower Maybe you don't want to spend 267 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: any of your draft picks early on a quarterback, would 268 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: rather get value late. Who's the guys you need to target? 269 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: Who are the ones he needed to stay away from? 270 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 3: Ones got I'll tell you what new coaching staff, at 271 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 3: least on the offensive side of the ball. We'll see 272 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: how that affects him. Obviously, we're going to talk about 273 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams. There's a new quarterback with the Jets as 274 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: Justin Fields. Takes over a whole lot to get to. 275 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: It's all coming up in our preseason preview looking at 276 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: the quarterbacks here on I want your flex. All right, 277 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: we talked about the top guys. Now let's look at 278 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 3: some back end starters for your fantasy team. Maybe some 279 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: guys he could get at value late. I think it 280 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: kind of starts. I'm going to just throw a name 281 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: out there. Okay, you ready for this? Hit me Kyler Murray. So, 282 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray has everything that we think we would want 283 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: in a quarterback in terms of the fantasy because we 284 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: know he's mobile, he's got targets to throw to. He 285 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: can throw the football, but doesn't necessarily translate to a 286 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: top top guy like we have with the Allen's and 287 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: the Lamars and the Jalen Hurts is. So here's Kyler 288 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: Murray who does everything that we seem to like Mike, 289 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: but maybe we don't love Kyler Murray. Where do you 290 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: have the Arizona Cardinals quarterback? 291 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: He is in that second tier towards I think towards 292 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: the middle. 293 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: Right. 294 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: We look at Mahomes, Mayfield, Nicks would be that next 295 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott we talked about, and I think Kyler Murray's 296 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: right in that mix, right, So that gets us if 297 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: my math is right right to our top ten with 298 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: maybe one other guy shuffling into that spot. But for Murray, 299 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: it's the and you finish the job right. That's always 300 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: been the case. Fast start looks like he's sonic, you know, 301 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: to steal from the Detroit Lions for a second. The 302 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: sonic the hedgehog kind of thing, watching him sprint around, 303 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: and you know me, I love guys that are how 304 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: do we say vertically challenged because I feel like, you know, 305 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: some kindred spirit out there. But we got to assume 306 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior the second Marvin Harrison Junior the second. Yeah, 307 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. Marvin Harrison the junior in his 308 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: second year, we'll take a big step forward. Michael Wilson 309 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: is one of those curiosities. Greg Dortch has been good 310 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: in spots. Trey McBride, I gotta think we had the 311 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: anomaly of the guy can't find the painted grass, so 312 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: we don't have Jason Witten part two and that kicks up. 313 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: I like the Connor Benson mixed together. Like I think 314 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: there's a lot to be said here and certainly the 315 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: drafting on defense, we get back to balance to where 316 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray doesn't have to try to play superhuman, that 317 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: they can just go play a more structured offense and 318 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: perhaps get a little more balance and consistency. 319 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: I find him in one of the most polarizing players 320 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 3: when it comes to fantasy because either you love them 321 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: or you just you can't. You can't maybe get over 322 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: the height sort of deal. But his rushing numbers last 323 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: year five touchdowns on the ground, so even he's even 324 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 3: though he's now a few years in Mike and has 325 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: had a few dings here and there. To say the least, 326 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 3: He's still running the football. Maybe not to the level 327 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: of those top quarterbacks, but he's still giving you something. 328 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: And you just ran down all the weapons where I 329 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: think that. I think Arizona's just a good, well coached 330 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 3: football team and I expect them to compete in the 331 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: NFC West. I don't know how high that bar is, 332 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: and because of that, I expect Kyler Murray to be good. 333 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 3: So I find value in the Cardinals quarterback. Yeah. 334 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is can he stay healthy? Right? 335 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: That's the billion dollar questions with him eight games in 336 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: twenty three, eleven in twenty two. Go back fourteen to 337 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, last time he'd played a full season. 338 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: Go back to twenty twenty eleven touchdowns on the ground, 339 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: six point two a carry, and over nine or eight 340 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: hundred rushing yards to go along with a pretty strong 341 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: passing game. So yeah, I'm with you. I think he 342 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: I'm bullish that he outperforms his average draft slot, but 343 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: I know folks have been burned. So he's one of 344 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: those guys that becomes the two idea go back for seconds. 345 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Do you feel that you could get 346 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: burned by Jared Goff? Now that Ben Johnson is in Chicago, 347 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 3: other members have left the Lions offensive coaching staff. How 348 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: do you see Goff and the Lions and the quarterbacks 349 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 3: performance this year? 350 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: Golf is no better than a mid two because I 351 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: think you're going to see a lot more Jamiir Gibbs, 352 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: not that he won't have an active role in the 353 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: passing game, and we'll do that more in Earnest in 354 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: the running back breakdown. But for golf, I think you 355 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: can see Montgomery's healthy and Gibbs. I don't think you're 356 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: gonna have the same cheekiness that you had in the 357 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: play calling of Ben Johnson. Now you have the former 358 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 2: passing coordinator Morton at the helm. He was the guy 359 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: in Denver, so I think there's something to be said 360 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: for But I think this becomes more in game management, 361 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: especially if that defense is healthy. Remetbter how lost they 362 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: were by injury in the back half of the season, 363 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: so I think that helped with some of the Jared 364 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: Goff numbers and Ben Johnson need needing to push, I 365 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: don't think they do that this time. You look at 366 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 2: the end game for Jamiir Gibbs last year. They tried 367 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: to shorten those games as best they could. 368 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: Tanner Engstrand, the new offensive coordinator from the Jets, previously 369 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: the Lions passing game coordinator, so he's gone as well. 370 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 3: The reason I started with Murray and Goff is we'll 371 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: tell you here on I want your flax just as 372 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 3: a general consensus, We'll use the Fantasy Pro site because 373 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: it's an accumulation of so many insiders like one Mike 374 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 3: Harmon and their rankings throughout the season. It gives you 375 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: a pretty good sense of who is top, who is bottom. 376 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: That's your tier three right now, so it's Murray at 377 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: the top and Golf at the bottom of that. There's 378 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 3: an interesting mix of players in the middle because you've 379 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: got a guy like Brock Perdy who's now got his contract, 380 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 3: not necessarily sure on how everything's going to start out 381 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 3: with the forty nine ers wide receivers, but Purdy is 382 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: in that group justin Fields now is the job all 383 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: to himself with the Jets. And then you got two 384 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: second year guys in Drake May and Caleb Williams also 385 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 3: a part of that group. Sandwiched in between Murray and Golf. 386 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: So an interesting group of names in that tier three. 387 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: Well, that's just it, right, It is such an enigma, 388 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: right for Caleb Williams. Look, you've been part of what 389 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: the preseason has been. It's noise left and right. How 390 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: much does the Tyson Bagent signing sway you as to 391 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: like dislike of Caleb Williams. It's really fun theater on 392 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 2: a day to day basis, no question about it. But 393 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: if everything breaks right, you think that he pushes towards 394 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: the top of that tier three and is battling for 395 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: a top seven, top eight position if it all breaks right. Now, 396 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: when we look at Brock Purty, Ricky Piersoll is a 397 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: guy that, towards the back of the season look like 398 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: he can go. Do you trust anybody else in that 399 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: receiving corps? I mean, George Kittle's what thirty five now 400 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: and still blocks a ton Christian McCaffrey. Are they going 401 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: to use him as a wide out? Does he go 402 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: back to like twenty nineteen when he caught a hundred 403 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: passes and that becomes how he's utilized that? Okay, yeah, 404 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: brock perty wins then, But otherwise the receiving corps absolutely 405 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: scares me. So he's pushed down for me, justin Herbert 406 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: as much as you know, he's now everybody's favorite quarterback, 407 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: right he took that mantle I think from Stafford of 408 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: he's the guy that all quarterbacks like. But he doesn't 409 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: put up pinball numbers. That's not how they want to 410 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 2: run the game for the Chargers. And who in that 411 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: receiving corp truly scares you outside of Maconkey Nobody, nobody. 412 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: So he's another guy that I think perhaps under performs 413 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: justin fields. Do I get bonus points for a thousand 414 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: thousand like that? And it's not to disrespect my guy, 415 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: Jason Smith and his love of the New York Football Jets, 416 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: but I've watched the field show. It's a sixty percent 417 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 2: completion rate, and I feel bad already for Garrett Wilson 418 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: before the first snap's taken. And I don't believe a 419 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: lot of the preseason nonsense, because you know how it 420 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: is hot take theater with each little run in a practice, 421 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: and the way people, oh he was four of seven, 422 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: it's like you don't know what they were doing, or 423 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: four of nine or four of twelve or whatever. The 424 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: numbers are on a given. It's like, you know, when 425 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams missed the net, it became the biggest thing. 426 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, he basically played hot potato and missed 427 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: the net and pretended to be mad, but it became 428 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: the biggest talking point in the world. So yeah, so 429 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 2: that's a little bit of the fear for Justin Fields. 430 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: He'll run. It's gonna be him and Allen and Breeze Hall. 431 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: I think for a time ton of action. But you 432 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: don't get Fantasy points per carry in most leagues, so 433 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 2: that doesn't help. 434 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the funny thing that I look at with 435 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: the Fields portion of it last year was for as 436 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: much as we want to criticize Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson 437 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 3: took over for Justin Fields in a manner where I 438 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: know some people said just stick with Fields because the 439 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 3: Steelers were playing good football, but the numbers were very 440 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: hit and miss. I mean there were four out of 441 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 3: the six games he played he didn't top one hundred 442 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: and fifty six yards passing, you know, so there's an issue. 443 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: He didn't turn the ball over, which was great for 444 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: the Steelers. But the point is is he didn't steal 445 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 3: the job from Russell Wilson, and at no point did 446 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 3: the Steelers end up turning back to him. So I 447 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 3: think that also then tells you a little something. I 448 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 3: feel that because we didn't see Justin Fields and because 449 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 3: Wilson was who he was, that we are changing our 450 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: thoughts and memories about him. But the fact of the 451 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: matter is is if he really was out playing Russell 452 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 3: Wilson last year, then he probably would still be in 453 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh right now. And he's done. So that's kind of 454 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: my takeaway on Justin Fields is in a weird roundabout 455 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: saying of what you're saying is we've seen this before. 456 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: He is who he is. That was more of a 457 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 3: telltale sign for me of what we actually have at 458 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 3: the quarterback position with Fields. 459 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you can win some games, right with 460 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: that defense. Same thing with the Jets. They've got a 461 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: really good defense. They might win a few games. Is 462 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: that going to translate to weekly fantasy bonanza? No? And again, 463 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: you know this is where we get into rankings and 464 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: it's the difficult part of the dan of We may 465 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: agree that, all right, say he stays healthy, Justin Fields 466 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 2: will in a best ball scenario get to the twelfth 467 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: highest scoring. But am I banking on my team to 468 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: win games week to week fantasy wise with him as 469 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: my quarterback? Hell no, because I'm gonna have too many 470 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: very low ceilings. Yeah, before it's all said and done, right, 471 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: go back to those Pittsburgh games. They're winning, but it's 472 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: not pretty. And for Fields, he was very much like 473 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams in spots Now. Williams numbers overall were solid 474 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: except for the sixty eight sacks he took. But everybody 475 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: made a big deal about the interceptionless streak. That's great. 476 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: That means you're not willing to take a chance into 477 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 2: a spot that's willing, and you're not willing to push 478 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 2: the ball down field. Guess what, that's losing football. That's 479 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: what Justin Fields does too. Wait, Thezaro tied to the Bears, Dan, 480 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 2: what are we doing? 481 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 3: God, we'll move away. We'll move to a guy who's 482 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 3: compared to the Bears quarterback just because they wear the 483 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: same draft class. Are we undervaluing Drake May at all? 484 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: Because again, this conversation that you and I have had 485 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: and I over the last thirty minutes or so here 486 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: has been about the quarterbacks that can do both. May 487 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: have shown that he's able to move and can run 488 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: the football. Maybe not the enormous passing stats that you 489 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: would get from a from a Lamar or Josh Allen 490 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: or Jaden Daniels, but still may's show that he's mobile 491 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: enough to do damage and get your points on the ground. 492 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 3: Where are you with the Patriots second year signal caller? 493 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: I like him as a high end too. I think 494 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: there's certainly some upside, particularly if the defense takes on 495 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: the Mike Rabel style and gets after a little bit 496 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: a little concerned receiving cor I mean, the best story 497 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: was Mac Collins throwing the ball into the crowd to 498 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: get people fired up. I don't know if that's really 499 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: the thing I need when it's all said and done. 500 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what Diggs has left tomorrow. Douglas has 501 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: been fine in spots, and you've got a lot of 502 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: guys around Polk go all lay down the line, Hunter, Henry, 503 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: Austin Hooper, your tight ends. We both love the running 504 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: back position that they have, Henderson certainly more than Stevenson, 505 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: but you've got depth and guys that can play there, 506 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 2: so I don't think it has to be on May's arm, 507 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: so if he's judicious about things, that they'll be able 508 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: to take care of it. So I think the passing 509 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: ceiling is fairly low on him because I think they're 510 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: going to try to grind games out, but his acumen 511 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: with his legs that they're gonna win you a game 512 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 2: or two, There's no question about it. 513 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 3: This is my favorite part of all of the mock 514 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 3: drafts that I've done because it becomes late in the 515 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 3: round and if you haven't drafted a quarterback, there are 516 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: some names that you recognize and names that you know, 517 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: and you say to yourself, how did they fall to 518 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: that point? Who are we undervaluing Mike in this fourth 519 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 3: tier of quarterbacks with some hot name properties still available 520 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 3: likely in many drafts. 521 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, as it currently sits. I think you and I 522 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: both kind of look over at number twenty three on 523 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: the list for the Fantasy Pros World Michael Pennix Junior. Right, 524 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: you look at what he's got Bejean Robinson. Well, I 525 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: want to make sure he pronounce his name right so 526 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: he doesn't come and track me down, Bijon Robinson. And 527 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 2: you look at that receiving court, like there's and forget 528 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 2: about Kyle Pitts. He'll get his numbers fine, but you know, 529 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: the world beating stage is not going to be there, 530 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: but the receiving core solid as a guy with a 531 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: big arm, big opportunity here. Kirk Cousins will eventually get 532 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: spun off somewhere else, so that won't even be a 533 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 2: specter anymore once they you know, swallow their pride and 534 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: you know, eat some of that money. But I think 535 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 2: he's the guy that stands out to me as that 536 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: far back for what that offense could be in division, 537 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: et cetera. So he would he would be first c J. 538 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: Stroud looking for a little bit more. Now again, the 539 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: wide receiver staying healthy would be nice as well as 540 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: a little specter of what's going on in a cloud 541 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: with Joe Mixon. As you and I sit here, but 542 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: you bring in Nick Chubb, You've got a couple of 543 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: young running backs to build out the depth there, so 544 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,239 Speaker 2: opportunity and then I'd be remiss if I didn't give 545 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: a nod to Trevor Lawrence. I don't know what Travis 546 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: Hunter becomes, but certainly Brian Thomas, you know, it didn't 547 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: matter what the logo on the side of the helmet 548 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: was he was able to perform and put up big numbers, 549 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: and this is kind of a go get it kind 550 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: of year with any new head coach and Trevor Lawrence. 551 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 3: If not now when, Yeah, I think you're right about that. 552 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 3: I think they could be a fun team. But I 553 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: just don't know if I'm ready to put him up 554 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: there in His availability at least over the last couple 555 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 3: of seasons has also been a bit of a question. 556 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford has fallen because of all of this preseason 557 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: stuff as well. High on the executive and head coaches 558 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 3: tier list, but he's been a big drop. It's interesting 559 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: I look at someone like Jordan Love who's sitting there 560 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 3: green Bay. I get Matthew Golden's like a first round pick, Mike. 561 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 3: I understand all of that, and there's certain stats that 562 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 3: you try to spin with Green Bay, but I think 563 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 3: if they're going anywhere, it's probably going to be on 564 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 3: the quads of Josh Jacobs. So when you're green Bay 565 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 3: trying to battle for that division crown, trying to make 566 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: it to Super Bowl, where are you with Jordan Love 567 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: and what he does with the green Bay Packers. 568 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: Fantasy wise, I don't have a guy that scares me. Right. 569 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: That was the stat that kept coming up, and you 570 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: and I talked about this a little. As you know, 571 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: the preseason football was running around as we were doing 572 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: our Fox Sports Sunday shows of like, hey, they've got 573 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 2: this many guys that had at least four hundred yards. 574 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, who cares? Do you have one guy you 575 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: trust when it's a go get a play? 576 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: Right? 577 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: I mean, that doesn't matter, and I don't think they have. 578 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: Maybe Golden becomes that guy, But as it stands right now, 579 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: I think you got a great array of receivers, so 580 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 2: you'll move the ball. But I agree with you one 581 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: hundred percent. I think it's all on Jacob's legs to 582 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: make things happen. So Jordan loved to me is a 583 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: back end Tier four guy. I'd almost switch him all together. 584 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: With the back end as it's currently situated in the 585 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: Fantasy pros world and your guy Sam Darnold showing up 586 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: in Seattle, that I'll take a shot that he figures 587 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: it out and that we put up some pinball numbers 588 00:30:59,360 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: more so than. 589 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 3: We'll wrap up this quarterback episode this way. If you 590 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 3: are drafting, if you are in a draft, how many 591 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: quarterbacks would you carry on your roster? I was talking 592 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 3: to a buddy of mine this offseas and he says, honestly, 593 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: he goes, I'm only going to carry one. He goes, 594 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 3: there's enough guys that if something happens that I could 595 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: just go and pick up and be fine with. How 596 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 3: many would would you carry? Would you carry a backup 597 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: or do you think that this quarterback position is so deep? 598 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 3: Obviously not in a super flex league, but in a 599 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: deal where you're only starting one quarterback? Where would you 600 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: How would you construct your quarterback room on your fantasy team? 601 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: I need a second guy if nothing else. It's just 602 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: like a security blanket, right. I go the full Linus 603 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: as I'm walking around, going to the Peanuts character, and 604 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna have that with me no matter what, cause, 605 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: I mean, we've watched it, especially if you're going towards 606 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: the top. We talked about how many of these guys 607 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: the main thrust of what they do is that they 608 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: put up huge rushing numbers. Well, that's every extra carry 609 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: is you know, a lump in my throat potentially, right, 610 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: And I've been burned too many times that way. You know, 611 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: there's certain leagues if the bench is deep enough, I'll 612 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: carry a third. I'll let someone have to scramble and 613 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: start starting. You know the best of the Steelers, Colts, Browns, 614 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: and they can roll the dice. I'm not playing that game. 615 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: I'd rather be have a guy rotting on my bench 616 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: than showing up and beat me in week twelve. 617 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: It's flying without a parachute. That's how I felt like that. 618 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 3: Anybody is going with it. I'll tell you what what 619 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 3: I do in those situations to carry a backup. I 620 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 3: just look at the bye week of my quarterback. And 621 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 3: then then the tiebreaker is who is playing, what team 622 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: that could end up getting a lot of points or 623 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: what defense would be susceptible to allow a lot of points, 624 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 3: and then take that other team starting quarterback. 625 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely, if that's if that's available to you short, certainly 626 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: there's your U tried and true, and and then start 627 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: playing games and playing defense as we get deeper into 628 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: the season. 629 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's that's the way to go. I 630 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: would feel weird to not have a backup quarterback, but 631 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: people are willing to roll the dice because heck, there 632 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 3: are names that we haven't even talked about Aaron Rodgers. 633 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson still on some draft boards because he never 634 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: knows what's gonna happen. With Daniel Jones. I saw Jalen 635 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: Milroe was higher than Kirk Cousins on the preseason charging, 636 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: so yeah, yeah. 637 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: I mean, just go on down the line right other starters. 638 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: We didn't even get to Gino in Las Vegas or 639 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: Bryce Young. You know he's got a new shiny new 640 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: toys your year two with Canalis the breakthrough. The answer 641 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: is probably not, but it'll be fun to watch. And 642 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: then to a tongue of I Lowe was once upon 643 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 2: a time that guy. He's still trying to figure out 644 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: whether Tyreek Hill likes him or not. Dan, So I'm. 645 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 3: And at the time of this recording, we don't know 646 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 3: who the Saints are going to go with with Tyler 647 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: Shuck or Spencer Rattler. So even but Mike for a 648 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 3: team that we don't think is gonna win a lot 649 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 3: of games this year, there could be some garbage points 650 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 3: with I'm not telling you, you know what, I'm just 651 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 3: gonna stop myself because I'm not gonna tell you to 652 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 3: draft the Saints quarterback that is not what I'm saying 653 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 3: at all. Those guys are further down the list. But 654 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,479 Speaker 3: it's fun talking some quarterbacks because I don't necessarily think 655 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 3: they get the love or a lot of the attention 656 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 3: that we usually make for our pre preseason drafting strategies 657 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 3: and whatnot, because we're so focused on running max wide 658 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 3: receivers and tight ends. So it's good to look into 659 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: the quarterback position. Well the future episodes coming up of 660 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 3: those positions that I just talked about. Plus we'll do 661 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 3: our top sixty pre draft, Yes, the sixty players that 662 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 3: we would take in a draft. Mike, myself and Ian Roddy, 663 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: our executive producer, will dive into that in a future 664 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 3: preseason episode. So for my Karmen, I'm Dan Bayer. There's 665 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 3: your info on the quarterbacks. Stick around for more great 666 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 3: info here, and I want your flex for the rest 667 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 3: of our preseason preview. Talk to you soon.