1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: name is Noah. 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined with our guest superproducer, 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: Max the Frey Train Williams. Most importantly, you are you. 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: You are here. That makes this whole thing the stuff 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. Fellow conspiracy realist friends 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: and neighbors, Venezuelans and no Venezuelans alike. This is our 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: first listener mail segment of twenty twenty six. Welcome to Thursday, 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: January fifteenth. We are recording this on Wednesday, January seventh, 14 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: and I've got to tell you, guys, gents, it feels 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: good to be back. We got new cameras, we've got 16 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 3: these different setups. We're on Netflix. It's true. 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 4: What's weird to even say out loud? I guess by 18 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 4: the time this comes out, we will be not yet. 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 4: No not kid. 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 3: You can go to Netflix right now if you are 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 3: if you're on Netflix, you can go there right now. 22 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: You can click a little a bell button bell icon 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: that says remind me. And I was joking with some 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: of our folks backstage. Our current category, you guys, is 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: New Zealand. But no, not really, yes, really go to 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: Netflix now you'll see. 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 4: We've been able to talk of New Zealand from time 28 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 4: to time. 29 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 5: We do. 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 4: We love the Yeah, it's I guess. The reminder thing 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: is sort of like when you see a new show 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: that's about to drop and it lets you sort of 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: pre pre subscribe or whatever. It just sends you a 34 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 4: little reminder. So do that for the video podcast and 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: you can see us as real human people. I'm excited. 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: Everyone looks great. 37 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: Well, it's it's pretty great because you can find us, 38 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: you can find stuff your mind. Oh if you missed 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: a history class pictures of us from like twenty fourteen. 40 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: Right right. So it's a work in progress. We wanted 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: to do the new headshots, we wanted to go live. 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: We'll be doing that very soon. Just know the conversations 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: are happening. We're so glad that you're joining us here, 44 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: and we're pleased as punch. I'm so excited, you guys, 45 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: not just for our upcoming Netflix thing. Returning to our 46 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 3: video roots, but also for all the fantastic correspondents we 47 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: received during our interim holiday break. As we said, with Netflix, 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: you can catch our We do two episodes a week. 49 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: You can catch them on Netflix, and between then we 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 3: do our weekly Strange News segment, our weekly listener mail segment, 51 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: and you can catch those right here wherever you're tuning 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: in to your favorite shows. 53 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, some for everybody, mm hmm. 54 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: And don't forget the classics. We had a bunch of 55 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: those recently. We hope you enjoyed all of them as 56 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: we did listening back to them. Okay, it's so much 57 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: fun to look back just five years and see how 58 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: much the world has changed in every one of those. 59 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean look back before the holidays. I think 60 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 4: there was an episode that and you and Ben recorded 61 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 4: that I was sadly not around for where you basically 62 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: predicted this whole Venezuelan thing. What a difference a couple 63 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 4: of days makes. 64 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: We made a couple of sly remarks about how it 65 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: appeared it felt as though there was going to be 66 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: some action in Venezuela. 67 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: Something in the wind, Yeah, we all watered too, right, well, 68 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: thank you. And in the soil and in the refineries. 69 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: Thank you to everybody who wrote to us. Guys. We 70 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: actually had some folks checking in on various social media 71 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: platforms asking if we were okay. We're very much okay. 72 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: We just took some time with some friends and loved one. 73 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: We were saving up for twenty twenty six. 74 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 4: Here we go. 75 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about so much cool stuff. Let's see. 76 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: We had a lot of responses about Elf in the Shelf. 77 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,839 Speaker 3: I don't know if we're gonna get to that. We've 78 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: got a continuing correspondence from multiple people in email and 79 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: voicemail about long COVID, particular concern of our longtime friend 80 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: of the show, Alexis stock Holliday Jackson. We've got some 81 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: stuff from Russian oligarchs. We've got a nice note from Malaysia, 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 3: which is wild. Before we get to any of that, guys, 83 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 3: you ever heard some creepy ice? You ever creepy ice? 84 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: Not ice spice, creepy posh, creaky and creepy. 85 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, making so weird sounds. 86 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 2: Weird some not long ago. Actually, are we talking specifically 87 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: about standing on a large frozen body of water or something, or. 88 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 4: Maybe not even standing, just being in its presence and 89 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 4: the fact that these sounds for downstream can reverberate and 90 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: you know, ping around and make all kinds of unusual, 91 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 4: hard to place sounds where you might be. You know. 92 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, how about this. Let's take a break for a 93 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: word from our sponsors. Everybody goes stand out in the 94 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: middle of a frozen lake. Sure when we when we return, 95 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: we'll hear our first fist of listener mail. 96 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: Okay, so now that you're on this frozen lake, I 97 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 4: want you to take a handsaw and saw a little hole. 98 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: Let me they want to extend your little fishing pole 99 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 4: down in there, and you yourself a nice little ice fish. 100 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: You can also use a router, now there you go. 101 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, perhaps a drimmal. No, it's not enough more than 102 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 4: multi tool a multi tool. Yeah, you know what I 103 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: will say. Depending on the thickness of the ice. There 104 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 4: are certain leathermen that might have when find to saws 105 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: that would perhaps do the trick. 106 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: You if the leather maked. I love leatherman, you guys know, 107 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 3: I have several of those multi tools. If if you 108 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 3: can use the little leatherman saw for the tooth saw 109 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 3: on the ice, yeah you should run. Yes, but we'd 110 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: not just chatting ice fishing and weird ice noises for nothing, right. 111 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 4: No, it's for something. So yeah, we've been talking a 112 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 4: lot recently about kind of phantom sounds originating from god 113 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 4: knows where, creating all kinds of theories and hullabaloo. Full disclosure. 114 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: We had a whole back and forth off theear trying 115 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 4: to figure out where this came from, and it was 116 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: from a previous listener, male from Saturn, talking about the 117 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 4: Longfellow boom, a sound heard in a neighborhood in Minneapolis 118 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 4: called Longfellow. That was mystifying people. We read some news 119 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 4: reports about it, some tweets about it, like people talking 120 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: about like what is this? It's like sounds like an 121 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: there's explosions happening downstream. And this led us to kind 122 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 4: of reconsider things like the windsor hum and what is 123 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: it the ping man. 124 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: BANDA, yes, yes, no, it's the none of the ping, 125 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: nne of it's ping. There are several other reported things. 126 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: Do check out our earlier episode on the windsor hum. 127 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: Do check out our earlier episodes on mysterious sounds and 128 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: just tangentially, why not check out our video on what's 129 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 3: Beneath the Ice of Antarctica. 130 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: And our live show we did at our air fests 131 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: last year about the conspiracies of sound, where we do 132 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 4: talk about some of these things, and I believe the 133 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 4: nine of it ping comes up in that in particular. 134 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: But sound is interesting because it moves, you know, through 135 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 4: the air in the form of vibrations, and it as 136 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 4: it moves, frequencies kind of separate and you experience them differently. 137 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 4: Lower frequencies can move through denser materials. Higher frequencies, you know, 138 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: are able to be stopped by certain materials, and as 139 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: those vibrations sort of permeate through medium aka the air 140 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 4: or let's say a sheet of ice, you're going to 141 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 4: start to hear some anomalous, unusual sounds. And as a 142 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 4: giant you know, audio and sound design nerd personally, as 143 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: I know we all are, I'm personally fascinated with what 144 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: happens when you manipulate sound and filter out certain frequencies 145 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 4: and you know, all the modular synth nerdery that I 146 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: love to get into. It's really it really just makes 147 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: you realize how sound is such a unique building block 148 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 4: and how it's all just kind of vibrations that are 149 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: manipulated and dispersed in different ways. So we got a 150 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 4: response from this discussion. Maybe it was just something that 151 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 4: was in the air. Our listener here does not specifically 152 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 4: reference any of those episodes that I mentioned, but I 153 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 4: think it had to have been as a response to 154 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 4: some of that discussion we've had in the latter part 155 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty five. This is about ice noises from 156 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 4: k J. Being from upstate New York, I'm familiar with 157 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 4: the eerie sounds ice can make. It sounds like a 158 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 4: humongous rubber band being snapped, as well as other pings 159 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 4: and groans. I can see how someone in the media 160 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 4: who hasn't experienced this themselves could make all kinds of 161 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 4: conspiracy theories about it, although I wouldn't doubt at all 162 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: in this case, it is one of the evil empires 163 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: searching underwater for who knows what, to somehow increase their 164 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: power even further. Thanks for a great podcast, kJ. So 165 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 4: like back to what I was saying, This idea of 166 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 4: a sound moves across time, you know, and space. It 167 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 4: can vibrate things in different ways. A sound that maybe 168 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 4: originates far far away as it moves through a medium 169 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: can become a completely different sound, vibrate other things. We're 170 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: talking about snapping rubber bands. If you've ever taken a 171 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 4: rubber band and pinged it while you put your ear 172 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 4: up close to it, it's a huge sound. It is 173 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 4: a fascinating, enormous sound that you can be created on 174 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 4: a micro level. So think about that on a massive, 175 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 4: stretched out level, involving a frozen lake or river or whatever. 176 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 3: I don't know, and water complicates it as mean, think 177 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: about the bloop. We did an. 178 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 4: Awesome episode on the Blue is what we talked about 179 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: in the Conspiracy of Sound episode. 180 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: We definitely mentioned it for sure. Man, this I think 181 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: we're all, as Noel said, I think we're all mystified 182 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: by the magic of sound and the way it also 183 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: certain sounds communicate with the human brain on a primal, 184 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: nie unconscious level. There are to your question there, kJ 185 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: There are so many sounds that have yet to be 186 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: explained here in twenty twenty six. History and science have 187 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 3: come so far. But you get to a certain point 188 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 3: and the world's top experts will go, I don't know, 189 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: maybe it's this. Maybe the ice is fartened around, you're 190 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: shifting somewhere. We genuinely don't know yet, And it's. 191 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 4: The kind of thing that like and I know you're 192 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: itchened up to weigh in, Matt, something can happen way 193 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: way upstream. And if you've got this heavy medium and 194 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 4: pieces that are maybe sliding against one another, glass sheets 195 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 4: or whatever it might be, or as it flexes and 196 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 4: sort of you know, I mean ice is it can 197 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 4: move as a large body or individual parts of it, it 198 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 4: might be thinner than other parts. Think about some of 199 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 4: the weird sounds your house makes as the temperature outside 200 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: warms and cools. 201 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've noticed that a lot actually recently as the 202 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: weather you know, we've had a lot of swings between 203 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: pretty extreme cold and then getting super warm again in 204 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: the winter here in our fier state of Georgia. Strange 205 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: sounds that you'll heal, that you'll hear even on the staircase, 206 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: but you realize that, oh, that actually has to do 207 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: with the house physically cooling and warming. 208 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 4: A lot of the State House sounds, as Larry David 209 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 4: talks about, there's an episode of Curb where they have 210 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: this like weird sound that they can't explain. They end 211 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: up selling the house because Cheryl can't put up with it. 212 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something weird going on. But you know, I've 213 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: spooked myself a couple of times, or at least made 214 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: myself go do a full scale check of the house 215 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: simply because I poured myself a glass of ice water, 216 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: and the ice as it melts and settles, you know, 217 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: in a glass of ice water, sometimes will make a 218 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: pretty loud sound, and I'm like, what was that? 219 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 4: Those sounds? It freaks me out. I'm scared sometimes a 220 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 4: little bit, and I've literally googled is my house crumbling 221 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: into the fountain? 222 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: That kind of stuff. 223 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: You know, I do live in a little bit of 224 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: a constant state of paranoia about things like that, but 225 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 4: I'm doing better. But the whole point of this kJ 226 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: is that sound as it travels through again time and space, 227 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 4: which is a thing that's interesting about sound. It requires 228 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: both of those things. It requires time to fill in 229 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 4: order to experience it, and it requires space and a 230 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 4: medium for it to move in order to create the sound. 231 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 4: So it's an amazing thing when you start hearing like 232 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 4: the kinds of fantastic things that sound designers and composers 233 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 4: are able to do by say like Boeing a symbol. 234 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 4: It just can create these other worldly vibrations and then 235 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 4: throw it through some reverb and some effects and some delay, 236 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: and before you know what, you're hearing sounds you did 237 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: not know existed. And that stuff can also happen in nature, 238 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 4: because what is nature if not a giant reverb tank, 239 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: reverb chamber, you know, with things bouncing all over town exactly. 240 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 4: So thanks for that one. kJ got another one that 241 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 4: I think we will all have a lot to say 242 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: about from our listener in the UK who would like 243 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: us to refer to him as the grease Weasel, which 244 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 4: is one of my favorite nicknames of recent in recent memory. Hi, Ben, 245 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 4: Matt and nol Is by my email and say you 246 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 4: sure give me away my real name. Please refer to 247 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 4: me on air as the grease weasel. We love take 248 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 4: that opportunity to say it a second time. Boy, do 249 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 4: we ever love a nickname? He sweezel continues, I'm going 250 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: to say it a third time. I was listening to 251 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 4: your episode on Laying on Hands, so do check that 252 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: one out if you haven't heard it already. That was 253 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 4: me and thought I would share a bit of behind 254 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 4: the scenes context. I work as a dop at its 255 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: director of photography and camera operator. And as long as 256 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: someone's paying, I'll work on pretty much any production point 257 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 4: to glass end at things. I love that and press 258 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 4: the red button and I'm happy. I'm UK based and 259 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 4: while we don't quite have US scale megachurches, we do 260 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 4: have similar outfits here. Long services, big music, highly emotional preaching, 261 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: speaking in tongues, faith healing, laying on hands, the lot. 262 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 4: I was once hired as part of a production team 263 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: filming one of these services or shows really, as it 264 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: was extremely theatrical when things stood out. As people arrived, 265 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: anyone elderly who could walk was immediately offered a wheelchair 266 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 4: as a courtesy and wheeled near the front. Fast forward, 267 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 4: it's so funny, I'm sorry. Fast forward a few hours. 268 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: The preacher would select someone in a wheelchair that's like 269 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 4: other a plant, bring them on stage, lay on hands, 270 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: and miraculously feel them by encouraging them to walk, because 271 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 4: of course they already could walk. Cue the audience, Susan 272 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 4: Oz going absolutely wild, not exactly planted stooges. Ooh that 273 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 4: isn't Darren Brown ref right there stooges know where there 274 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 4: are no stooges. I love that, but very effective, so 275 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: it probably is just a UK thing. I have. This 276 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: first place I ever heard someone referring to a plant 277 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 4: or an audience kind of fake participatory member part of 278 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: the show as being a stooge but very effective social engineering. 279 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: Perhaps that's the bit they don't want you to know. 280 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 4: Oh my coat. Ps, thanks for the podcast. Over the years, 281 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 4: I've had some rough personal stretches and your shows have 282 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 4: kept me company through many sleepless nights. Genuinely appreciated best 283 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 4: the Grease Weezl. 284 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: Thank you, Grease Weasel. 285 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 4: Pretty cool perspective and quite the tricky trick, yes it is. 286 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: Also Yeah, we've got to be fair with this, Grease 287 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: Wizzle Wizzle, We'll keep it. Grease Whizzle. Wanted to follow 288 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: up with you on this correspondence because one of the 289 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: big questions becomes are those people consensually being planted or 290 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: are they consensually stooging? Or are they just feeling poorly 291 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: and then given priority seeding and then feeling really good 292 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: with some kind of show high you know what I mean? 293 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: Like I don't it sounds like they are not necessarily 294 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: conspiring or being paid to pretend to walk. 295 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and if they're in on the gag. I'm sorry, 296 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: that's the wrong word. I don't mean to be dismissive. 297 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 4: If they're in on the bit, doesn't that break the 298 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 4: illusion and let them in on the fact that this 299 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 4: is all kind of a load of bunk them. 300 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: And then it would need to depend upon their personal 301 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: moral compass and kills. 302 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, exactly, that's very interesting. 303 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: I would just want to see more videos of this. 304 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: I remember back in the day you could find stuff 305 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily on YouTube, on another video services. Yeah, I'm sure, 306 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure as Vimeo. I'm thinking more of like those 307 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: old old school ones you guys remember, like Ebomb's World 308 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: and things like that. They would have. They would have 309 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: megachurches and you know maye li laying on of hands 310 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: and that whole thing. Everybody dances around and is excited 311 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: that someone is healed. I do I do wonder how 312 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: many other investigations went into things like that, because I 313 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: know there were several that we've even covered on this 314 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: show of individuals, often couples that were part of the 315 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 2: megachurch that would set these kinds of things up with 316 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 2: radio transmissions and things like that. 317 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: Little earbuds as well, and then and then, of course, 318 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure that all of us of a 319 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 3: certain age are fantasizing about some world Star video. I 320 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 3: would love to see a compilation of faith healing where 321 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: whomever is filming it inexplicably yells world Star at the 322 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: end when they start walking. 323 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: Waffle house faith healing videos. 324 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 4: I mean, oh my gosh, yeah, barely before my time. 325 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 4: And I don't mean that you guys are older than me. 326 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: I just wasn't cool enough to have participated in that 327 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 4: part of early Internet culture. Super fascinating though, this is 328 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 4: the k fabe of it all, if I'm using that 329 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 4: term correctly. I mean, it does feel, especially with the 330 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 4: production aspect of it, it really is almost like a 331 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 4: magic show. And it doesn't really bode well for the 332 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 4: believability of this kind of phenomenon. I mean in terms of, 333 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 4: like you know, and I'm I'm not here to poopo 334 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 4: anybody's faith or anybody's belief in faith healing. I think 335 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 4: we've definitely seen uncovered and you know, done research indicating 336 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 4: that a lot of the stuff is manipulative, and of course, 337 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: with the you know, the prosperity, theologists of it all 338 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 4: just trying to make money and feather their nests and 339 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 4: their gold airplanes. I mean, we know, oh that there's 340 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 4: some bad acting in the world of megachurch hurry. So 341 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: this does not particularly surprise me. It doesn't. I didn't 342 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 4: think about the uk of it all. It makes of 343 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 4: course there would be this kind of thing. But on 344 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: the other hand, you've got folks like Pentecostals who are 345 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 4: doing the speaking in tongues and the snake handling and 346 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 4: whatever that might be. And it's purely belief based, you know, 347 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 4: like everyone's in on the fervor of it all. Sure, 348 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 4: and this to me seems like a real cynical you know. 349 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 4: I mean, think what you will about folks with that 350 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 4: level of faith based, performative kind of stuff, you know. 351 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 4: I mean, if you believe what you believe by all means, 352 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: believe it. But this to me is sort of a 353 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 4: thumbing of the nose at actual. 354 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 3: Belief, definitely on the part of the authority figures or 355 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 3: the authority structure after a certain threshold. And I love that. 356 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 3: I love that mention of prosperity theology, which is a 357 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: very dangerous thing, and just because we hear about it 358 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 3: most often in the United States does not mean it 359 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 3: does not occur in other places. Please check out our 360 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 3: other recent mentions of just really dangerous religious stuff that 361 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 3: has occurred in Southeast Asia or Latin America or the 362 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 3: African continent. I can't remember. In Laying on Hands or 363 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: Faith Healing, I can't remember which episode it was where 364 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: we talked about the folks who appear to physically remove 365 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: a demonic influence or like it looks like a little 366 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 3: booger or goop when they put their hands on and 367 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 3: they pray hard enough and the congregation donates, and all 368 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: of a sudden boom, you're healed. As long as the 369 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: cameras are rolling. 370 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: Well and ben speaking of the versions of this and 371 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 4: other parts of the world, this story got me thinking 372 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 4: about a I believe it was an Instagram post that 373 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 4: I saw shared with you guys on our group text 374 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: thread about a pastor in South Africa in the region 375 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 4: of Limpopo Spirit Ministry sorry Sevenfold Holy Spirit Ministries. A 376 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 4: fellow by the name of Christ Penelope It's a fabulous name, 377 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 4: who apparently is not laying on hands but laying on 378 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 4: of butts, his butt on people's faces and farting on them, 379 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 4: but not. 380 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 3: Just in a fun way. It's not a fun butt lay. 381 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 3: It's a butt lay with a purpose. 382 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 4: There's a buttlery with a purpose. I mean, presumably it's 383 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 4: fun if it does heal what ails you. He says, 384 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 4: it's important that the fart be near the person's nostrils 385 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 4: the healing power can enter the body and do its work. 386 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 4: So this is from South Africa's Independent Online News, and 387 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 4: this is an older story. It's in twenty twenty one, 388 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 4: but it's new to me and new to us. So 389 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 4: I'm just going to read a little piece from Boing 390 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 4: Boing that describes this by Rob Beschizza from November of 391 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 4: this year. But again it is referencing an older story. 392 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 4: I don't know why I came up again something in 393 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 4: the Zeitgeys. In an interview with Drum Penelope said his 394 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 4: unorthodox and stinky healing ritual is a demonstration of God's power. 395 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 4: He claims that he is following the divine example of 396 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 4: putting people in need of a miracle into a deep 397 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 4: sleep before hitting them the healing they need. It started 398 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: with Master Jesus when he stepped on Peter. 399 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: I didn't know this happened. 400 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 4: He stepped on him. It is the demonstration of God's power. 401 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 4: I'm not laughing at religion. I'm just laughing at farts. 402 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 4: Is the demonstration of God's power. Just like God made 403 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 4: Adam go into a deep sleep. It is a similar thing. 404 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: And one of the returning compliments to our show, Thank you, 405 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 3: fellow conspiracy realist, is five stars. Love these guys. I 406 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: could not go to sleep without them. So finger guns, You're. 407 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: Welcome, just out here tooting on the mic for you. 408 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 3: Sorry, it's a more gentle fart. It's more of it's 409 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 3: like a hot bread. 410 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm just gonna just gonna wrap up with the 411 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 4: last bit of this piece from Lingbling. He's been out 412 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 4: of for years, and there's plenty of images that's been 413 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 4: healthy sitting on people's heads online. There are just want 414 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 4: to right the top and he's smiling and just popping 415 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: the squat on this dude's face. He can't even see 416 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 4: the guy's features because it's covered in butt. So some 417 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 4: really fancy bretches too. 418 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 3: Sounds very Denis Reynolds to me. Little. 419 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 4: I did see other posts about this. It does appear 420 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 4: to be a thing that happened. I just wanted to 421 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 4: end on a light note. Uh, this is just funny 422 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 4: to men. Farts are always funny. He's been out it 423 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 4: for years. And there's plenty of images of Penelope sitting 424 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 4: on people's heads online, though I didn't spot any footage. 425 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 4: A small mercy for you this Thanksgiving morning. The ministry 426 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 4: posts otherwise conventional charismatic services to YouTube. 427 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: Wow. 428 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it takes all kinds. 429 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 3: You gotta find God where God finds you. I guess 430 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 3: you sure do. 431 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: And and God works in the serious ways sometimes through parts. 432 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: I just wonder how often our pastor cleanses himself, you know, 433 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 2: in between your application. 434 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 3: Oh, he's got some opinions of the days I imagine, 435 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: you know, on helping you was God's. 436 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 4: Warrior, gets rid of the good, the good. 437 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 3: Vibes like Sampson cutting the hair right. 438 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 4: Exactly by the way, guys, speaking of Samson, Yeah, I 439 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 4: watched Half Baked with my kid the holiday break. I 440 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 4: love it. Some of it didn't age super well, but 441 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 4: the boy boy was still really funny. And I'll never 442 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 4: I'll always associate with you, guys. 443 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 3: Yes, Cuban be. 444 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 4: Really good. It's really funny. Okay, let's take a break 445 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 4: here where a response and then we'll come back with a 446 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 4: couple more segments of messages from you. 447 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: And we've returned jumping straight to the phone lines. Guys, 448 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 2: we did our episode on the Elf on the shelf. Yes, 449 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: talked about that character and a cavalcade of other characters 450 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: within Santa's Christmas universe. 451 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: It's Christmas Pantheon on the Extended Christmas Universe. 452 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: It was created by Lumis Stella Incorporated. 453 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 3: You're in Marietta, Georgia. 454 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 2: That's right. We've also talked about just you know, Santa 455 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 2: Rudolph in the the old school hits that we've been 456 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 2: living with for way before two thousand and four to 457 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: two thousand and five. 458 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 3: The Mule lads, are you kidding me? 459 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: Leck that window, my guy, dude, dude, Yes, let us 460 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: jump quickly sniff that storway. Sorry to miss Betty Brown 461 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: who sent us this quick message just around how she 462 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: handles Christmas time and Santa presence versus presence that kids 463 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: know are purchased. So if you are still within the 464 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: Santa verse and whatever your journey is, however old you are, 465 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: maybe skip this one because there is some behind the 466 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 2: scenes stuff to talk about you. So Santa spoilers ahead, 467 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: here we go. 468 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 6: Hi, this is Beattie Brown. I just listened to the 469 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 6: elf on the shelf thing as far as Santa believing 470 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 6: in Santa Claus. Every year for my kids, I always 471 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 6: they get one. Each of us gets one present from 472 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 6: Santa Claus. The rest they know are purchased because they 473 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 6: help Christmas shops. But I always get everyone, including myself, 474 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 6: one present from Santa Claus that they don't know about, 475 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 6: and I wrap it in different wrapping paper from all 476 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 6: the other presents. So under the tree there's one thing 477 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 6: wrapped in a special wrapping paper from Santa to each 478 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 6: of us. It helps keep the joy alive. Have a 479 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 6: good Christmas buy. 480 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 3: Miss Betty, thank you so much. This is this is 481 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 3: first off, this is a get out of my head thing, 482 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: classic move, Betty. I don't talk about my family too 483 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: much on air, but you will. We got the call 484 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: just as I said, but we will. Uh. But I 485 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 3: have to confess this is without coming in personal anecdote. 486 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 3: This is a practice that is pretty common in some 487 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 3: folks I know off air, especially close family members, where 488 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: you say honestly like garlands and missiletoe and tensil aside. 489 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 3: I've had conversations with family members who say, well, we 490 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 3: we busted our humps here. We know that Santa is 491 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: kind of the first conspiracy kids learn about. And one 492 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: of my one of my buddies, said, he said, I 493 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 3: didn't come from a Christian background, Ben, I want my 494 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: kids to know that I gave them the cool gifts. 495 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: So Santa gets a fun one, Dad and mom got 496 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 3: you the other ones. 497 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. That was similar in 498 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: my household too. The really cool stuff came from the 499 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: parents or the cousins, or you know, an aunt or 500 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: an uncle. But then there's one special one the night 501 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: he probably ended up playing with more than the expensive 502 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 2: stuff you know that came from Santa. Feel that for sure. 503 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 504 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 4: Did you see the news about this GOP lawmaker whoever? 505 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 4: The Christmas break posted ai pictures of him beating the 506 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 4: crap out of Santa Claus. Why? Yeah, that was the 507 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 4: question a lot of people were asking. It was in 508 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 4: reference to the War on Christmas, but it seemed like 509 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 4: he didn't quite get the memo the War on Christmas 510 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 4: actually entails. He was truly waging war on Santa Claus. 511 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Christ I. 512 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 4: Think is his name? 513 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: Dude? 514 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: He didn't even have one of his people check on 515 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: that one after they produced. 516 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 4: He was just having some fun with his kids. 517 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: But you know, well, maybe he's just having some fun 518 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: with his kid. 519 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 4: It's maybe. But it's like when you post it on 520 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 4: your official lawmaker page with a message that said something like, 521 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 4: when you find out the North Pole is trying to 522 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 4: bring more bureaucratic overreach and unfunded mandates down the chimney, 523 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 4: this guy's Christmas cheer. The people run Indiana, not the bureaucrats. 524 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 3: Why did you do it as a joke about unionization 525 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: and elves bringing elves. 526 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: Over here trying to get better hours? Yeah, what about presence? 527 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 4: It's also our first exposure to slave labor. It's a conspiracy, 528 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 4: and it's our first exposure to like these unpaid elf workers. 529 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 4: There's no discussion of the fair wage for the elves. 530 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 3: They're happy about it is the narrative, right, They just 531 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 3: can't wait. And also, what are they doing in March 532 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 3: as we established an elf on the shelf as a 533 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 3: part of the surveilled State. The elf on the shelf 534 00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: is working Thursday through or wait, Thanksgiving through Christmas Day. 535 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 3: That's when they're snitching. And then they're back. They're back 536 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 3: in the North Pole, right, So what are they doing 537 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: in March? 538 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 4: Presumably the worker elves are working year round, and I 539 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 4: to get the output required to gift you know, every 540 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 4: child in the known world. 541 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to write this down future. 542 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: Do you guys listen to Comedy Bang Bank Still? 543 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 4: I saw Still. I stopped it. I need to read it. 544 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 4: I needed not because I didn't love it. I just 545 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 4: you know how it is. I only have room for 546 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 4: so many podcasts, but Delight. 547 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: Like, oh dude, oh he's incredible. I can't get enough 548 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: of that show still, and they every year they do 549 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: their best of and they went back and gosh, I see. 550 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: I particularly like Lord Lapkus's Ho the elf character. That 551 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: is like going against the grain up there in the 552 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: North Pole. It's pretty wonderful. And then maybe think about 553 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 2: that with everybody's happy but everyone but Ho Ho right exactly. 554 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am literally writing this down in the book 555 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 3: of future episodes. I wonder what they're doing in March. 556 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 3: Maybe we can get some of the Bang Bang folks 557 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 3: on to explain it to us. 558 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: Wet Day, let's have him one for Wet Day. I 559 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: love those. Hey, let's stay in the Christmas spirit. 560 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: For a moment. Sure, maybe a little difference between the 561 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 3: North Pole and the US. 562 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 2: Perhaps, but let us let us jump to another Christmas 563 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: like festival, a holiday festival that occurs in February, though, 564 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: because it hasn't happened yet, it's coming up, and it's 565 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: something we learned from Alpha Flight in a message he sentenced, 566 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: So let's go ahead and jump to that message. 567 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 5: Hey guys, here, this is listening to your episode most 568 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 5: recent listener mail and you mentioned all of the crazy 569 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 5: Christmas folklore and now I guess Winter Times folklore. It's 570 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 5: on our neck of the woods, so I am obviously Canadian, 571 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 5: but also have some Dutch background, although the Dutch Christmas 572 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 5: is buck wild to take a little a little bit 573 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 5: from Encanto, we don't talk about shot speak. So basically 574 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 5: the Canadian stuff is pretty pretty much similar to you guys, 575 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 5: except for one weird French notable exception, and that's when 576 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 5: you go say bonjou to venom Dnju in Quebec, which 577 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 5: I can only really describe him as a mixture between 578 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 5: a snowman and the kegler else and he is one 579 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 5: party dude and worth looking out as part of the 580 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 5: Quebec Festival like the Winter Festival. Yeah, honestly, if you're 581 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 5: ever in Montreal, oh, it's a good hang. But yeah, 582 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 5: Bama is the pretty sweet dude. 583 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: Oh man, Alpha Flight, you have no idea how much 584 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: of a rabbit hole we are going down with Bonam 585 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: now that we have learned about the Quebec Winter Carnival, 586 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: the Winter Carnival, guys, holy mackerel, this is so much fun. 587 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: And Bonam a big old snowman that runs around and 588 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: just get as as Alpha Flight says, gets the party going. 589 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 3: It's got a sash. Look, Alpha Flight, first off, thank 590 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 3: you again for the shout out to one of the 591 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 3: best superhero teams in all of Marvel Comicdom. Comicdom. That's right. 592 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 3: Uh this guy, Oh, he's got his sash, he's got 593 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: his fun hat, and he's uh he's timeless. 594 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: Well yeah, a lot like these Christmas characters that we're encountering, right, 595 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: they live forever, They've always been there. It's just Bonham 596 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 2: first came in nineteen fifty four or fifty five and 597 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: made his appearance known, and now he is with us forever. 598 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 3: And he's a chalky boy too. Seven feet tall, four 599 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 3: hundred pounds of pack snow, which is interesting that it's 600 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 3: not in the metric system. I guy parties. 601 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you could go to Carnival dot QC 602 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: dot c A to learn more about Bonholme and learn 603 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 2: about all the excitement that happens right before the big carnival, 604 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 2: which is when Bonoma is really doing his thing. 605 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 4: I don't know that they have an equivalent mascot type figure. 606 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 4: But when I was a little kid living was when 607 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 4: I was a small German boy, I remember a distinct, 608 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 4: very exciting period in Germany and the region where I 609 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 4: live called fashing Carnival or Fashnacht, which goes from November 610 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 4: eleventh up until ash Wednesday, so roughly still a winter carnival, 611 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 4: or you know, early winter carnival. And you made like 612 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 4: paper mache heads and all kinds of crazy stuff, and 613 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 4: there's revelry and various let's see chance and lots of 614 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 4: different parade floats and something called a boot which is 615 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 4: a barrel shaped lectern for giving satirical speeches, and people 616 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 4: wear all kinds of crazy costumes and it's very mardy 617 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 4: gra coded. But I think there's probably, you know, connection 618 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 4: between these seasons. 619 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 3: I love all these parties so cool. 620 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 2: There's a lot to learn about and has some cool origins, 621 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: just about celebrating before a crazy harsh winter or like 622 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 2: you know, as you're going through a crazy harsh winter, 623 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 2: getting through it, preparing for it, all those good things 624 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 2: there is. Just if you look at the bonom page 625 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 2: down here, I'm going to read this part because I 626 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 2: don't know enough about it. Maybe somebody else can write 627 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 2: in tell us more. Maybe if you're from Quebeca or 628 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 2: somewhere around there that celebrates the carnival, it says ur 629 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 2: bonom is quite different than the inanimate straw or wooden 630 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: European bonom that is sacrificed at the end of each 631 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: carnival a wicker man to symbolize rebirth and the return 632 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 2: of spring. It's very interesting. There is a sacrifice that's 633 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 2: very common, right, as we've talked about before, sacrifice of 634 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 2: an fig of some sort. Shout out to Bohemian growth. 635 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 3: Shout out yeah, shout out to European history. I love 636 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 3: the Bohemian grove. Shout out Alpha Flight. You might also 637 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 3: enjoy our episode from years back on the origins of 638 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 3: Christmas as celebrated in the West as well. As if 639 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: you want to get into some ridiculous history, our episodes 640 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 3: on Christmas traditions from ridiculous history. Spoiler, it's wild, there's 641 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 3: a poop log, there's everything, you know. I feel like 642 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 3: Stefan Bill Hayter's old character on Saturday Night Live, going, Oh, 643 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 3: it's Christmas in Europe, It's Christmas in Latin America. You 644 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 3: can't wait to hear the stuff they have for you. Actually, 645 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 3: I think we should go celebrate the end of the 646 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 3: year parties in another country one time, just one time. 647 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 3: Let's find one. 648 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 2: Let's do it. They've got everything, Cagatillo. All right, Well, hey, 649 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: that's it for this segment of Listener Mail. We'll be 650 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: right back with more messages from you. 651 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 3: And we have returned. This is the final act of 652 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 3: our listener Mail segment, folks. I thought we would start 653 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 3: with a big thank you to a couple of people 654 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 3: in particular. We'll give you their names and then we'll 655 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 3: we'll dive into what they said. We got a great 656 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 3: history lesson from Bonita C who hit us up over 657 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 3: on the social meds. We got a series of great 658 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 3: letters from Noah's F and B. We'll call it F 659 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: and B. And then we got a big thank you 660 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 3: letter from Malaysia and maybe we can close with that one, 661 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 3: but let's kick it off this way. Do you guys 662 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 3: remember our episode years back on Africville. 663 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 4: Yes, and that came up again recently, I believe. 664 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it did. This This is a story the 665 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 3: Sith and the Jedi won't tell you. We should give 666 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 3: a quick summary here. Africvil was a small community of 667 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 3: African descended Nova Scotian residents in Halifax, Okay, out in Canada. 668 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 3: So we're still kind of staying in Canada with this one. 669 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 3: And this episode stood out to all three of us 670 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 3: fellow conspiracy realists because it's literally hidden history. This is 671 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 3: where Bonita c comes in. Bonita listened to the show 672 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 3: and said, great job on Africvil. One of the reasons 673 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 3: this is especially awful behavior is because it was a 674 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 3: free black village there. To begin with, those were the 675 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 3: black loyalist The British Crown promised black people in the 676 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 3: America's freedom and land in Canada for their support in 677 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 3: the British side of the American War of Independence. Then 678 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 3: it became a thing they tried to back out of 679 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 3: before leaving, and those who were stuck behind, were left 680 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 3: in Canada in an inhospitable region with no support. Halifax 681 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 3: at the time had a government imposed bounty on scalping 682 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 3: the indigenous population, and they also this early government of 683 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 3: Halifax made it clear that white supremacy was a law 684 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 3: that would be enforced, and they also brought the loyalists 685 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: there and that they didn't give these people land because 686 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 3: of white supremacy. This is not just stuff they don't 687 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 3: want you to know. Some Nova Scotians right now don't 688 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 3: understand that there's entire history of black people that built 689 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 3: up the area, and maybe we paused there because I 690 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 3: think it's interesting. I haven't re listened to our Afrodville research, 691 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: but it is something pretty common in colonialism, where you 692 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 3: promise one group of people something and then you leave 693 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 3: them out to dry. I'm thinking of like as recently 694 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 3: as Mong tribes in the Vietnam War, or of course Kurdistan. 695 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 2: Those are great examples. I don't know enough about them 696 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 2: to comment on it, but I think specifically, just right now, guys, 697 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 2: my son is learning about a lot of indigenous peoples 698 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 2: here in the United States, and there's just so many 699 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 2: examples of specific groups that were told specific things and 700 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 2: then it's just swept out from under their feet before 701 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 2: they can get anything. 702 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent, it's a jam tomorrow, jam yesterday, 703 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 3: but never ever jam today's situation. And yeah, this is 704 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 3: a downer after some fun chats about Christmas stuff, which 705 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 3: obviously we love, but it is important to remember history 706 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 3: is closer than it looks in the rear view mirror. 707 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 3: The consequences of this are carrying on today, and it's 708 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 3: not just the United States that has continuing conversations about 709 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 3: the concept of reparations. Does that make sense? M hm, 710 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 3: So thank you again, not just you, Benita see, but 711 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 3: everybody who is writing into us on the social meds. 712 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 3: We've got time for one more email from a series 713 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 3: of emails from our pal, Noah's FMB, and I think 714 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 3: we all saw the correspondence as we responded Noah, you 715 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 3: were on fire Man. You sent us some great links, 716 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 3: several of which will inspire I think full episodes in 717 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 3: the future. We talk a lot about Russian oligarchs, especially 718 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 3: when windows come into play, the physical windows, not the 719 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 3: operating system. But we've never done an episode, a full 720 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 3: episode on Russian oligarchs and guys I think Noah is 721 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 3: going to inspire us to do it with a story 722 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 3: that they sent which is older but wasn't widely reported 723 00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 3: in the United States. It's about Russian investment in American 724 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 3: tech companies. 725 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 2: Oh, that's great. We are about to speak with Jake again, right, 726 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 2: mister Hanrahan, Well, oligarchs. 727 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 3: I wrote to him today. Let's see as he written back. 728 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 2: That's fantastic. So hmm, maybe we can ask him about 729 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 2: this specific thing. 730 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 3: Yes, our buddy does does specialize in sad oligarchs. Do 731 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 3: check out his show. We're excited to have him on 732 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 3: for an interview. I just I can't believe we have 733 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 3: not done an episode about Russian oligarchs yet. 734 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 4: I was just gonna say the same thing. We've had 735 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 4: a cut, We've had a handful of those. Can't believe 736 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 4: we haven't done this yet. Topics of late I know. 737 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're rediscovering ourselves. We have Bermuda triangle. We had 738 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 3: let's see whatever heads trunk and heads. Oh, good call there. 739 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 3: And Noel, Yeah, we also have this oligarch thing. I 740 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 3: don't even I don't know if we should get into 741 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 3: it yet because the story dates back so far, like 742 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 3: one of the earlier quotes we found, or one of 743 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,280 Speaker 3: the earlier stories that Noah shared with us is about 744 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 3: how Russian investors Facebook connect and group on. If you 745 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 3: remember group on, we're conspiring. 746 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 4: Treat you by job roll tickets. 747 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 3: Right there we go, We're conspiring to to really wash 748 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 3: the money. It reminds me of that old wrap line, 749 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 3: I'm running to the laundry like there's something smelly on me. 750 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 3: Russian oligarchy was tremendously successful laundring money through all these 751 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 3: different all these different avenues, and I we gotta save it. 752 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 3: Can we make the audible call? Can we save this 753 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 3: for an episode? 754 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: Sure? Well, just talking about that kind of stuff in 755 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 2: laundry money, I want to ask you, guys if you've 756 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 2: seen anything wonky happening in YouTube with ads? Have you 757 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 2: guys seen anything that feels like money is being washed 758 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 2: or something thing? Or I stumbled upon an ad accidentally. 759 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 2: I'll just give you the exact scenari soon. You understand. 760 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: I'm on my work computer, I'm not signed in through 761 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 2: any account. I'm on YouTube watching something from the Australian 762 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 2: Broadcasting Corporation. I get served an ad beforehand, and you're 763 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 2: gonna have to beat me on this. It is an 764 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 2: AI generated woman sitting on a couch. She turns to 765 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 2: the camera and says, last night my husband to me 766 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 2: for three hours. 767 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. Thanks for the beep, Dylan, Yeah, please. 768 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 2: Thanks for the beep. Dylan agreed, because that it says 769 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 2: audibly right, I'm not signed in, so YouTube doesn't know 770 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 2: if I'm a child or an adult or whoever watching 771 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 2: this thing, and it still serves this absolutely easily determined 772 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 2: to be AI generated ad on something crazy, not okay. 773 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 2: And then I look down on the Australian Broadcasting Corporations 774 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 2: video that I'm watching and there is a highly stylized 775 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 2: female figure giving fullatio to a tree, a very penis 776 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:15,760 Speaker 2: shaped tree, and it's for a window tinting company, like 777 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,919 Speaker 2: like commercial car window tinting. This is AI It's also 778 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 2: AI slop of some sort AI generated image. And I'm 779 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 2: just seeing that all of that stuff is somehow going 780 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 2: through whatever alphabet and Google is attempting to do with YouTube, right, 781 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 2: because as we know personally, guys, it's all about advertiser 782 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 2: safety on YouTube. We know this. That's where our hand 783 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 2: got slapped many a time because we were not safe 784 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 2: enough for advertisers. 785 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 3: But this whatever I took the YouTube course, we all get. 786 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 2: But like, it's just crazy to me that that kind 787 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 2: of junk, that slop can just make its way through 788 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,919 Speaker 2: as long as the dollars are rolling through to pay 789 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 2: for it. 790 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 4: There's that terminification and I forget to coined it. It's 791 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 4: this dude that I just saw doing an interview. It's 792 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 4: I think he's like a media critic or something. But anyway, 793 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 4: the idea is that these platforms have gone through a 794 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 4: process of indentification that is multi layered. The first one 795 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 4: is they sell you a product that's the user. First, 796 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 4: we're going to protect your data, we're going to protect 797 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 4: your privacy, we're not going to serve you a bunch 798 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 4: of ads. And then of course eventually they do serve 799 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 4: your ads in a way that's really invasive and obnoxious, 800 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 4: and all the priority gets put on the sponsors. But 801 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 4: the next stage is this guy describes aification, is that 802 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 4: now the sponsors aren't even getting that treatment. So stuff 803 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 4: is totally coming through because it is no longer even 804 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 4: about brand safety or sponsor you know protection. 805 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about the Canadian writer Corey. Thanks Cory 806 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 3: doctor Rowe. That was yeah twenty twenty two. Oh, I'm 807 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 3: still so into this oligarchy idea because we can argue 808 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 3: we always hear the term oligarch thrown around with the 809 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 3: Russian kleptocracy, which just is a fancy way of saying 810 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 3: government run by thieves. However, I advance to all of 811 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 3: us listening that there is another oligarchy at play. It 812 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 3: is a tech oligarchy. It is the one responsible for 813 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 3: in poopification. Just to save you the beat there, Dylan, 814 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 3: this is the one. This is the oligarchy that people 815 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 3: need to be primarily concerned about here in the West today. 816 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 3: And I am so excited for us to do the 817 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 3: episode on this in the future. If it's all right, guys, 818 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 3: just to wrap on some good news. We'll get to 819 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 3: the rest of this as our journey through twenty twenty 820 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,240 Speaker 3: six continues. It's all right to wrap on some good news. 821 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 3: I'd love to share a cool letter that we got 822 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 3: all the way out from Malaysia. 823 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 4: Oh man, I love a happy letter, especially from Malaysia, 824 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 4: and I love good news. 825 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Don't you like when you 826 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 3: get a text that's just a nice tech They're not 827 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 3: asking you to do anything. They're just saying, Hey, I 828 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 3: hope you have a good day. 829 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 4: It's nice. Yeah. I also love getting the Ben Boleen 830 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 4: Venezuelan invasion texts as well. 831 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 3: Gosh, sorry about that. 832 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 4: I'm joking. It's good to be on the cutting edge 833 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 4: of what's happening. But yeah, it is nice to get 834 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 4: just a little bit of a warm hug in text 835 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 4: or letter or any correspondence. 836 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,720 Speaker 3: For sure, we love a little Ada boy. We're suckers 837 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 3: for We're suckers for sincere validation. This is so nice 838 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 3: and it gives us a chance to answer a question 839 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 3: that we love and spoiler it might be a question 840 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 3: that was on the mind of a lot of our 841 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 3: long term listeners when we began this listener mail program. 842 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 3: Hello there, std wytkt, says William. I just wanted to 843 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 3: thank you guys for all the great content you put out. 844 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,280 Speaker 3: It's probably not a stretch to say you guys helped 845 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 3: save my sanity during the COVID lockdown years and have 846 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 3: continued to educate and to entertain me. Since I don't 847 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 3: have any story to share for your listener mail segment, 848 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 3: but maybe one day I'll have a conspiracy worthy of 849 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 3: further exploration. You can pausing here, William. You can always 850 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 3: write to us. Everybody can always write to us. We 851 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 3: just want to know what's on your mind. We love 852 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 3: an no pun left behind. You continue and say, by 853 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 3: the way, I still don't know what a ruta bega is. 854 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 3: Web searches and AI haven't helped me figure out what 855 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 3: you guys were always giggling about. And William's right, we 856 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 3: do giggle when it comes up. Is this an American 857 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 3: English thing? You asked, William? Is that something you don't 858 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 3: want us to know anyway? Happy holidays? William from Malaysia. 859 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 4: Does the Google algorithm in other parts of the world 860 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 4: not know what a route bega is? 861 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 3: I think it's the spelling, so okay, yeah, So a 862 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 3: couple of things here real quick, big Willie style. If 863 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 3: you permit the moniker, a rutabaga typically is going to 864 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 3: be spelled r u t a b a g a 865 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 3: for anybody new to the show. One of our favorite 866 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 3: parts of our weekly listener mail program is when our 867 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 3: pal Dylan literally the Tennessee pal Dylan fakean Uh continues 868 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 3: in beginning the Ruta Bega universe. The ruta bega is 869 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,840 Speaker 3: our root vegetable. Let's think of it like a cross 870 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 3: between a turn up with some cabbage in the DNA. 871 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 4: Mm hmm yeah. Also known as a swede. 872 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, just so. 873 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 4: It doesn't quite have the ring to it, but it's 874 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:36,720 Speaker 4: still nice like a swede. 875 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 2: It can bring out some sweetness too, which is really cool, 876 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 2: almost like a sweet potato kind of thing, those root 877 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 2: vegetables that have that natural sugar going on. 878 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:51,720 Speaker 4: A little beat, like I like, yeah, intense, yeah, roasted 879 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 4: with the sweetness. 880 00:50:53,560 --> 00:51:00,080 Speaker 3: We have parsnip esque. Yeah. I think it's got a 881 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 3: lot of a lot in common with parsnip, but parsnip's 882 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 3: a little bit more bitter. 883 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 4: A little bit more rootie or a little bit more 884 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 4: stemy kind of you know. It can be tough. 885 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 3: To cook, William. You can also replace mashed potatoes with 886 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 3: mashed rutabaga. Please follow us for more rudabaga recipes through email. 887 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 2: We got a we got a recipe for a rutabaga casserole. 888 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,800 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I forwarded that to Dylan. Actually I should 889 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 3: have been doing other things, but it was like, stop everything, 890 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 3: the email can wait. I'm not getting on the call yet. Dylan. 891 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 3: You have to know. H. 892 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 2: Thank you for doing the needful bit, thank you for 893 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 2: doing that what you just said. 894 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 4: In Scotland, rudabagas are referred to as nips and they 895 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 4: have a delightful dish that sounds like I want to 896 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 4: track called nieps and tatties, where the tattoos are the 897 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 4: Scots word for potatoes and meats are mashed rutabagas. And 898 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 4: there's another version of that where you can mine those 899 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,439 Speaker 4: two ingreen and referred to the combo as clap shot. 900 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 3: Whoa yep. Now you might be asking yourself, William. You 901 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 3: might be saying, guys, I am sold. How did I 902 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 3: not know more about this earlier? Well, we'll tell you 903 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 3: it's a conspiracy. You see, the rootabaga is a is 904 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 3: a cool season crop and as a very long growing season, 905 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 3: so big agriculture went to easier things to cultivate. And 906 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 3: we're bringing the rudabaga back. It's twenty twenty six. That's 907 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 3: going on our vision board. We're also bringing back the 908 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,399 Speaker 3: idea of vision boards. 909 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 4: I remember that we used to talk about the vision 910 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 4: board all the time. At the end of ridiculous history, 911 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 4: we should bring it back. It was because of a Pinterest. 912 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 4: I think now apparently Pinterest is just a hive of 913 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 4: scum and AI sloppery. Oh no, yeah, it's been like 914 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 4: you can no longer find any real or very difficult 915 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 4: to find real images that are generated by humans. Everything 916 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,359 Speaker 4: is just it's been like infested with Aila. 917 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 2: Where will I get my interior design ideas well? 918 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, human beings. 919 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 3: I do want to point out, folks, we were ahead 920 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 3: of the curve because the stuff they don't want you 921 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 3: to know logo had six fingers on it way before. Hey, 922 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 3: I slopped from pinterest. 923 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 2: Oohs, as did the Gravity Falls logo. Unfortunately you know 924 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,800 Speaker 2: that when we created our logo. 925 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 3: But big thanks to our brother in arms, the legendary 926 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 3: Paul Mission Controlled Decands, who helped bring that vision to life. 927 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,479 Speaker 3: And big thanks to you for joining us. Folks. We're 928 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 3: so excited again that you're hanging out with us. Stay 929 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 3: tuned as we proceed through the week, you're going to 930 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 3: hear a couple more classic episodes. You're going to hear 931 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 3: more strange news, more listener mail. I can't even remember 932 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 3: which of our episodes are publishing by the week that 933 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,240 Speaker 3: this comes out. Oh gut intuition memories from the future. 934 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 3: Let's see. Oh we've got some we got some neat stuff. Noel, 935 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 3: you mentioned trunk and heads. 936 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a romp for sure. 937 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 3: The Sansas right. So join us, folks. We'd love to 938 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 3: hear from you. You can find us on Netflix. You 939 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 3: can call us on a phone line, you can send 940 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 3: us an email. You can always contact us on the 941 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:16,399 Speaker 3: social meets. 942 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 4: You sure can. And before I tell you how to 943 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 4: do that, I just wanted to add one little rudegga tidbit. 944 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 4: This may have come up in the past, but I 945 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,359 Speaker 4: had to do this for the sake of our guest 946 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 4: super producer Max the Freight Train Williams in Ithaca, New York. 947 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 4: There is something called the International Rudebega Curling Championship that 948 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 4: started in December of nineteen ninety seven, where people try 949 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 4: out the new Rudebega crop by rolling them into like 950 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 4: a you know, a pitch that is a circular goal, 951 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 4: much like the delightful Olympic Winter Olympic sport of curling 952 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 4: that Max loves so well. 953 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 3: Check out our episodes on curling if you have Ridiculous 954 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 3: history as well. It's a few part series. 955 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,799 Speaker 4: And in the meantime, you can indeed find us on 956 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 4: the social meds at the hand conspiracies level. We exist 957 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 4: on Facebook with our Facebook group here's where it gets crazy, 958 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 4: on xfka, Twitter and on YouTube with video content glor 959 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 4: for your apprusing enjoyment on Instagram and TikTok where conspiracy 960 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:11,359 Speaker 4: stuff show. 961 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 2: We have a phone number. It is one eight to 962 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 2: three three std WYTK. Turn those letters into numbers. Give 963 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,439 Speaker 2: the number a call. You'll find our voicemail system. You've 964 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 2: got three minutes. Give yourself a cool nickname and let 965 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 2: us know within the message if we can use your 966 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,799 Speaker 2: name and message on the air. If you got other 967 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,720 Speaker 2: things to say, stuff you want to put down with words, 968 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 2: why not send us an email. 969 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 3: We are the entities the read each piece of correspondence 970 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 3: we receive. Be well aware, yet o't afraid. Sometimes the 971 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 3: void rights back. What do we going to write back with? Well, 972 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 3: it depends on what you say to us. Play the game. 973 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,360 Speaker 3: Tell us if you want a random fact or a 974 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 3: random poem. We love this kind of stuff. Twenty four 975 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 3: hours in evening, seven nights a week. Guys, I just 976 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,439 Speaker 3: found an excellent poem about Rude Bega's by an author 977 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,319 Speaker 3: named law La Grace Weldon. What is it Anna hit 978 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 3: us up? Find out We'll see you in the dark. 979 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 3: Conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com. 980 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,280 Speaker 2: Stuff they Don't Want You to Know is a production 981 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 2: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 982 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,840 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.