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Speaker 1: Welcome to the combine, and everybody, welcome to one bill

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Speaker 1: slide from the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, Steve Chapter,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy inside the Indiana Convention Center. The spacious Indiana

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Speaker 1: Convention Center. It really is, Steve. This is a gigantic

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Speaker 1: But welcome to the show. We got a good one today.

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Speaker 1: And Steve pointed out, We've we've been busy all morning long.

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Speaker 1: Twelve thirty today I did a brief interview with Daniel

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Speaker 1: Bills Insider from Buffalo bills dot com. Chris have been

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Speaker 1: on Bell, Trey Flower, somebody else love to hear your

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Speaker 1: voice on the air eighth three five fifty or toll

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Speaker 1: I'd vote Brown, and I'll let Chris tell us in

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Speaker 1: an hour. So what maybe are some of the misperceptions

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Speaker 1: about Antonio Brown. But right now I'd be willing to

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Speaker 1: consider putting Antonio Brown on my roster. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I've changed my mind on that. Yeah, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: with you as well. I knew this and we could

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Speaker 1: talk to people what happened in Pittsburgh. There were problems,

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Speaker 1: and there was drama, but the dramas centered around one guy,

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Speaker 1: and Antonio Brown was the guy that got fed up

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Speaker 1: with the with the guy. And you know, he had

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Speaker 1: a problem who in the drama center around Ben Yeah Roethlisberger,

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Speaker 1: and Antonio Brown has got to the point where he says, man,

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Speaker 1: I am done. I'm not gonna put up with it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be treated like that. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: have the guy act like that, and I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play with him. And up until that,

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown was the hardest working guy, the most well

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Speaker 1: liked guy. You know, he was the guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was a leader, a strong advocate for the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: He was a you know, he's a former fifth round

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Speaker 1: pick who worked hard enough to become an elite player

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Everybody loves a guy now.

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Speaker 1: And it did not end well for him in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: If it does, if it is indeed over which I

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Speaker 1: think it is, it didn't end well there, There's absolutely

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Speaker 1: no question about it. But it was because he had

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Speaker 1: gotten Um. It's not like he is that guy or

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Speaker 1: that is what people in Pittsburgh equate his personality with.

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Speaker 1: That's not what defines him. Is the is the way

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Speaker 1: he's acted over the Ben Roethlisberger argument. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't have a problem putting him on my team. I

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Speaker 1: really don't, except the fact that he's gonna be thirty two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a lot of money. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: would want to have a long conversation with him about

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Speaker 1: what went out in Pittsburgh and where he sees his

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Speaker 1: future going and how he can adapt to this team

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Speaker 1: and this culture here. I would want to get down

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Speaker 1: to brass tacks on that. But I'm willing to listen

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Speaker 1: to suggestions anyway, you might have somebody else in mind.

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Speaker 1: In fact, more than third of you do. Give us

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Speaker 1: a call. We got lines open, wide open right now

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Speaker 1: eight oh three oh five fifty or from outside Buffalo

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Which

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Speaker 1: big name player do you want the Bills to acquire

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Speaker 1: this offseason? Got some tweet cheap material here from Darryl

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Speaker 1: f twenty nine. Which big name player you want the

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Speaker 1: Bills to acquire? None on list? Honestly, he says, maybe Flowers.

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Speaker 1: If I were forced to choose, I would actually prefer

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Speaker 1: signing a couple of offensive linemen in free agency like

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Speaker 1: Daryl Williams and Matt Pardis or Mitch Morse, and then

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Speaker 1: address skill positions like wide receiver, running back in tight

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Speaker 1: end in the draft. Okay, that's fair enough. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: also we got one from Team Many twenty two. I

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Speaker 1: choose other This coach and GM aren't about the flashy guys.

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Speaker 1: This team needs two solid oln draft draft tight end

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Speaker 1: and another via free agency draft wide receiver in round

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Speaker 1: two or three, and another solid free agent like Ross

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Speaker 1: running back in the fourth and fifth round. Getting get

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Speaker 1: starting caliber defensive tackle and a depth guy in the

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Speaker 1: secondary and free agency playoffs. There's a lot in that one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know what I like. I just want what

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Speaker 1: I like about something I know. But here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: here's the fun thing. Um this Bills offseason. You can

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Speaker 1: go in a lot of different ways. Oh, last year

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Speaker 1: it was all about the quarterbacks, right, all we talked

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Speaker 1: about dark quarterbacks. All we talked about the draft quarter

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Speaker 1: those four quarterbacks or five quarterbacks in the first round.

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Speaker 1: We talked about them until we were sick. I love

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Speaker 1: the fact that Bills fans this offseason and the good

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Speaker 1: fans we have on this show, Bills fans and good

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Speaker 1: Bills fans open up their minds a little bit, like, really,

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Speaker 1: what do we need? What do we want to see?

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Speaker 1: I like that the fact that it's not like a

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Speaker 1: knee jerk. I mean, the quarterback thing got stupid at

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Speaker 1: times last year, it did, you know. And this is

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Speaker 1: because we were blogs on the fire Yeah, we were contributors.

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Speaker 1: But here's and it struck me today. And the interview

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Speaker 1: with Daniel Jeremiah is just a couple of minutes away,

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Speaker 1: but he said something about the last year and the

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Speaker 1: and the quarterback race last year and how the Bills

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Speaker 1: aren't in debt, and I thought, you know, we were

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Speaker 1: just so wrapped up in that last year and people

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Speaker 1: just got locked into their positions. Oh it was and

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Speaker 1: it was about uh, Josh Allen. There were people on

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Speaker 1: draft Day and draft weekend last year who were convinced

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Speaker 1: that the Bills made a huge mistake, that Josh Rosen was,

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Speaker 1: that Josh Rosen was not their draft pick. You remember this.

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Speaker 1: People thought the Bills did it again. They didn't choose

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. He was a guy. And Daniel Jeremiah mentioned

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen might wind up being traded here in the

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Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. Yeah, I mean, is that so

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Speaker 1: That's my point is not that people were wrong. We're

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Speaker 1: all wrong, but people got so locked into their positions

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Speaker 1: on quarterbacks last year. It kind of had a life

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Speaker 1: of its own. It took over the dialogue for months.

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Speaker 1: They was crazy, Yeah, they were all. Everybody made pronouncements

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Speaker 1: about the future that these four quarterbacks after the draft,

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Speaker 1: you know when because then you know, yeah, and for

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Speaker 1: for every reason you can think of, everything was said,

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Speaker 1: I mean about every one of these guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is you know, he's he's a system quarterback

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Speaker 1: at Oklahoma. He's not gonna be able to play in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Sam darn the whole hold on here, Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 1: You know he's he turns it over too much. Remember

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Speaker 1: that he chose it over too much. Josh Allen, he

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Speaker 1: can't you know, he couldn't throw the ball in the

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Speaker 1: lake if he was standing on the dock. He can't

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Speaker 1: even you know, he can't throw that. And and Josh

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Speaker 1: Rosen was probably the most pro ready coming in because

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Speaker 1: he played in that pro offense and he's the guy

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be the guy that probably plays sooner because

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Speaker 1: he's gonna earn it quicker. And and Lamar Jackson h

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Speaker 1: probably won't be taken and he probably in the first round.

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Speaker 1: He won't. He'll probably sneak into the second round. And all, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a nuts And the point is not that people

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Speaker 1: are wrong. We're wrong. I'm wrong all the time. And

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Speaker 1: that's not the point. The point is people get locked

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Speaker 1: into their positions, like, how could you choose Josh Rosen?

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Speaker 1: How could you not go with Rosen? What's the matter

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Speaker 1: with you? Well, like I said, Josh Rosen, maybe moving

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Speaker 1: on from the Cardinals, sooner rather than later. So there's

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Speaker 1: a change. Don't get All I'm saying is, don't get

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Speaker 1: so locked into your viewpoint that you can't even consider

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Speaker 1: anything else. That's I think what's what has sometimes impressed

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Speaker 1: me about Brandon Bean and Sean m McDermott. They have

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Speaker 1: they have admitted to have changed their mind about this guy,

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Speaker 1: that guy, this, this philosophy, that philosophy. We wanted to

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Speaker 1: do it this way, but because of this, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: change and we're gonna do it this way. They are.

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Speaker 1: They've really both of them shown the ability to stay flexible,

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Speaker 1: not only in their plan for the for the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: but also in their convictions. Yeah, and they have really stayed,

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Speaker 1: you know, really gone with what they knew in every situation,

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Speaker 1: the facts that they had and what the and you know,

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Speaker 1: the production that and the evaluations. Um. That's one of

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Speaker 1: the things that I think it strikes me about all

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Speaker 1: these these teams that really do this at such a

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Speaker 1: high level. They they don't you know, throw people, They

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Speaker 1: don't say my way or the highway, you know, they listen.

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Speaker 1: And that's I think that's some of their greatest attributes

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Speaker 1: and it's it's evident in on weeks like this at

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Speaker 1: the combine. Let's hear from you today, which big name player,

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Speaker 1: because that's who everybody knows. Which big name player do

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Speaker 1: you want the Bills to pursue and acquire this offseason.

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Speaker 1: We put out a few suggestions on our Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: You can vote for one of them, or maybe you

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Speaker 1: got somebody else in mind. The phone lines are going

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Speaker 1: to be open eight three five fifty and toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Which big

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Speaker 1: name player you want the Bills to pursue? In response

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet from Todd Cummings, the classic Twitter response,

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Speaker 1: This poll is pointless. Brown and Bell are not coming here? Okay, Brown,

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Speaker 1: that's an answer be if Bell it gets traded to

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. He didn't get to say whether he

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Speaker 1: comes here. That's right, all right, So we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that as the show goes on. I'm gonna hear from

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Speaker 1: some experts to some expert opinion coming up in the

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Speaker 1: next All the minutes around the show, Steve talked with

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Speaker 1: the Charles Davis from NFL Network, one of the best

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Speaker 1: around when it comes to evaluating talent, and called the

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Speaker 1: senior Bowl on TV on the NFL Network a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, does NFL on Fox stuff for the

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Speaker 1: NFL season, the regular season, and I talked with Daniel Jeremiah,

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Speaker 1: one of the foremost draft experts, a former scout in

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Speaker 1: the NFL who does Los Angeles Chargers on the radio

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Speaker 1: and also does NFL Network. He's a draft expert. We

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Speaker 1: talked to them just a little bit ago here at

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Speaker 1: the Combine. You're gonna hear those interviews when we return.

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Speaker 1: Come on back. We're just getting warmed up here. It's

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Kalada Health from the NFL

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Speaker 1: Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. And this is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live at the NFL Scouting Combine.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy here talking with Daniel Jeremiah, analyst for the

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Speaker 1: NFL Network. He's also the radio color analyst for Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers football out West. This is your week, right,

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Speaker 1: this is when you shine. Yeah. Well, that old line,

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Speaker 1: that parcels line, like, that's why you lift all them weights.

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Speaker 1: This is why you do all that stuff. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: been watching a lot of tapes, so it'll be fun

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Speaker 1: to talk about these guys this week is why you

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Speaker 1: watch all that tape. There you go, there you go.

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Speaker 1: It strikes me where a couple of days into this

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Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray has become the story, really the focal

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Speaker 1: point of the comment so far. You agree, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think even coming into this it was there a lot

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Speaker 1: of intrigue. You know, first of all, what's he going

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Speaker 1: to measure? How big is he gonna be? Then it

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Speaker 1: kind of transitions to what's he gonna do here? You know,

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Speaker 1: I thought there's a lot of folks maybe a month ago,

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Speaker 1: maybe this was the time you'd have to make the decision.

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Speaker 1: Is it going to be football? Is it gonna be baseball?

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Speaker 1: He made that decision before we got here to Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: But he's so unique in his skill set and what

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Speaker 1: he does on a football field, and you throw on

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Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy and all the accolades that come along

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Speaker 1: with that, it's just there's no bigger star in the

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Speaker 1: draft of Kyler Murray. The measurements this morning five ten

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Speaker 1: and an eighth two hundred and seven pounds, nine and

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Speaker 1: a half inch hands. What do you make of that?

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Speaker 1: Is that pretty much as it expected? I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you'd ever say this in history, but never has

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Speaker 1: somebody been so happy to be five foot ten at

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Speaker 1: the scouting combine, because we all assume five nine was

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Speaker 1: the number we heard over and over again, so to

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Speaker 1: come in over five to ten, which puts you right

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Speaker 1: in that range of Russell Wilson. Actually, I think he

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Speaker 1: ended up weighing three pounds heavier than Russell Wilson did here,

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Speaker 1: and by all accounts, you know, talking to people there

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Speaker 1: at the way and said that he carried the weight. Well,

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Speaker 1: it didn't look like kind of some of the phony

639
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 1: weight that you see some of these guys put on

640
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: here at this event. So he couldn't have anything more

641
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: to help himself with what he did at the way

642
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: in a concerted effort on his part to put on

643
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: the weight. Can he keep it on? I mean, is

644
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: there concerned about that as he gets into his career,

645
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: that he'll be able to be that size and that

646
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: bulk for the rest of it. Yeah, maybe a couple

647
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: of pounds, he might be a couple pounds lighter. Maybe

648
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: you can artificially bump that two o two up to

649
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: two oh seven, But being over two hundred pounds at

650
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: his size is a big deal if you would have

651
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: come in as some reports during the fall, maybe he's

652
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty five pounds. Man, that's that's a

653
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: small frame to be able to take that type of punishment.

654
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: But from all accounts, I was told he carried the

655
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: weight well. Various reports as to whether he will run

656
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: or whether he will throw. What have you heard and

657
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: what would be best for him? Do you think? I mean,

658
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: I think the same reports where it said I think

659
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, my buddy over NFL dot Com NFL Network said,

660
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: doesn't like he's gonna throw. I haven't heard yet about

661
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: the testing and the drills. If he's gonna do that

662
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: or not. Man it even if I just make a deal,

663
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: can we just go run and do all the testing,

664
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: I'll take that deal. I'm gonna go to this pro

665
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: day and watch him throw there if he doesn't throw here,

666
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: but I just want to see something now. As the

667
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: week moves along, you hear more and more in the

668
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals kind of throw through fuel on the fire

669
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: when they talked about Josh Rosen yesterday. Is kind of

670
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: very a legitimate possible number one overall pick. Is their

671
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: value if he is the number one overall. Yeah to me, Look,

672
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: I have him as the fourteenth best player in the draft,

673
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: but he is so unique in what he does, and

674
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, you know, it's all about fit. So you'd

675
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: be hard pressed to find a better fit than with

676
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: the team led by a head coach that recruited him

677
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: specifically for his offense at Texas A and M at

678
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: that time, in Cliff Kingsbury. So I know they took

679
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen last year. It has to be unprecedent where

680
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: you would trade a quarterback you took in the top

681
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: ten within a calendar year. But when you come out

682
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: out there and says, as Steve Kim did, that he's

683
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: our quarterback right now, you've cracked that door open for

684
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: at least a discussion. Now, maybe it's a situation they're

685
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: trying to drive up some interest in that pick. I

686
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: know today I heard John Gruden talk about, you know,

687
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: maybe the potential makes some moves, and they asked him

688
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: about the number one overall pick, and he said, there's

689
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: a lot of value in that number one overall pick.

690
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: So this thing could go any number of ways. You

691
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of times. This is my last question

692
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray about his unique traits, his unique qualities.

693
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: What do you see what impresses you most about his

694
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: unique well explosive And sometimes people hear that word and

695
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 1: they think you're just talking about their legs as an

696
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: explosive arm. I mean, when you see the ball just

697
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: jump out of his hand, it's just there's so much

698
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: twitch and explosiveness in his body. You see the ball

699
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: jump out of his hand. You see those drive shots,

700
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, we call him whole shots cover two between

701
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: the corner and the safety on along the sideline. You

702
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: can't fake that throw. You either have the arm to

703
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: squeeze that in or you don't. And he does it effortlessly.

704
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: And then you look at when he takes off in

705
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 1: the damage he can do with his legs. That makes

706
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: him unique. Now, if he was if he was six

707
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: two and a discussion, he's the first pick in the draft.

708
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: People are fighting to go up there and get him.

709
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: And that might be where we end up. Even with

710
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: him at five ten, Where would he wind up in

711
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: last year's quarterback class? Yeah, for me, I would have

712
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,239
Speaker 1: had him fourth, So I had I would have had

713
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: Darnold Rosen Mayfield and then him and then I had

714
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: Actually I had the same exact great on him as

715
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: I did on Josh Allen. So that's to me both

716
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: wild cards. You guys got a chance to see Josh Allen.

717
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: Different packaging right with those two players, but unique skill sets,

718
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: where with Daniel Jeremiah from NFL Network. All right, you

719
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: bring up Josh Allen. You did the Chargers Bills game

720
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: and I think it was September early October. What did

721
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: you think that Josh is a rookie season and how

722
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: did it compare with your pre draft evaluation? Yeah, very similar.

723
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: You know, we talked a lot about his unique athleticism.

724
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: We had even made the comparison. There's a lot of

725
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: similarities to Cam Newton with how he plays with his

726
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: size and his ability to create with his legs. Now,

727
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: I think they've got a chance to see him there

728
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. I think that organization and being is going

729
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: to be able to go out there and surround the

730
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: talent he needs that fits what he does well. In

731
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: my opinion, that's getting a track team, you know, get

732
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: some speed out there because you can run the ball,

733
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 1: run the ball, and then with his arm, big chunks,

734
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, you don't need to have twelve fourteen play

735
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: drives with Josh Allen. You can eat the sandwich a

736
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: one bite. And as far as the guys who can

737
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: provide those big chunks, who are some of the likely

738
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 1: candidates here that you think the Bills will be interested, Well,

739
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: there's a couple guys there in the first round if

740
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: they wanted to go there, Dk Metcalf from Old miss

741
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: who's just a hulking presence who can still fly. Marquis Brown.

742
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: I know he's got the Liz Frank foot injury, but

743
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: it sounds like he should be okay wide receiver at

744
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: Oklahoma for the start of the season, for the start

745
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: of training camp. Those would be the two first round guys.

746
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: And then beyond that, I mean Paris Campbell from Ohio

747
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: State probably in that second round range. Mikole Hardman from Georgia,

748
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: maybe second or third round. These guys are flyers. Watch

749
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: the Bills at the Senior Build pay a lot of attention.

750
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: It seemed to me to South Carolina's Deebo Samuel not

751
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: a first rounder, but a pretty good player. Yeah, and

752
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me. There'd be crazier things that happened

753
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: if he were to fight his way into the bottom

754
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: of the first round. I could see that happen, and

755
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: I think he more than likely lands in the second round.

756
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: But he was the best receiver down there in Mobile

757
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 1: and really wasn't even close the way he separated any

758
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: offensive line target. You can invision for the Bills. Maybe

759
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: early in the draft. Yeah, I mean a couple of

760
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: guys intriguing to me. I have Andre Dillard as a

761
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: top tackle in the draft at of Washington State. When

762
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: I look at maybe some versatility that would be interesting

763
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: to Buffalo. You look at the kid down at Florida,

764
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: Juan Taylor, who I think plays right tackle. I think

765
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: you could play guard if you needed him to Cody Ford,

766
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: same thing, right tackle or a guard. With that type

767
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: of flexibility, it allows you to get your best five

768
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: guys on the field. You have an injury, they could

769
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: easily move inside or outside, and that Bills group upfront

770
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: has got to get better getting you. The Bills sit

771
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: there with the ninth to pick in the first round,

772
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: which sees me like a pretty good place to be

773
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: if they want a wheel and deal and maybe get

774
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: some more picks. Yeah, you know, it's interesting where they're located.

775
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: I would say two weeks ago, you'd been a spot

776
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: where people might be coming up for four of the quarterbacks.

777
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: And as every year those quarterbacks just keep going up

778
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: higher and higher and high, they might be gone. Those

779
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: top quarterbacks might be gone at that point in time.

780
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know if they're gonna have those options.

781
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: I do like how their needs, you know, talking about

782
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: the offensive line receiver specifically, marry up with where they're selecting,

783
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have a good option. We mentioned

784
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: you do Chargers Radio, so you're familiar with that roster.

785
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a guy who's apparently

786
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: headed to the free agent market, Tyrell Williams, who've been

787
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: linked a little bit to the Bills. Yeah, he's again

788
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: somebody that's vertical. You know, you're trying to find a

789
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: vertical receiver. That's what he does really well, great size.

790
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: I thought he'd developed from last year to this year

791
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: as an overall route runner. That a really nice job

792
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: improving in that area. And I've been a little bit

793
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: of frustration just maybe not playing to his size. When

794
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: the ball's up in the air, go get it. You're

795
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: a big, physical guy, Go attack the ball. And I

796
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: thought this year was so much better in that department

797
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: than he was in the previous year. Potential number one

798
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: receiver for a team. To me, I think he's a

799
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: great number two. You'll love him in that role. I

800
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,479
Speaker 1: think if you put him as kind of that lead dog,

801
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: now he might get paid. He might get paid as

802
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: the lead dog, But to me, you're gonna want to

803
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: pair him up with somebody else. Last question, Chargers draft needs.

804
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: What are they looking for the next coup. Well, they've

805
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: got some needs on the defensive side of the ball,

806
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: and they've got some needs at offensive tackle. That offensive

807
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: tackle they need a young guy to come along there

808
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: in that position, and defensively, finding a free safety which

809
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: would allow Derwin James to play down in the box

810
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: would be big. A linebacker that can cover, and maybe

811
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: another defensive linement. With some of the free agents they

812
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: have out there, an interesting team I know you have

813
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: fun with. Then, Daniel, thanks for this every great week.

814
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Daniel Jeremiah the NFL Network. Let's turn

815
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: it over to Steve Tasker. Now, Thanks Murph. I'm here

816
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: with Charles Davis, NFL Network draft draft analysts and also

817
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: with Fox Sports and Charles I gotta ask you, the Bills,

818
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: you covered them a couple of times this year, and

819
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: now you're sitting here at the draft. We're two months

820
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: into the offseason. What do you think the Bills next

821
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: step is is here at the draft, here at the combine,

822
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: evaluating these guys, but also free agency is on the horizon.

823
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: What's the first step for you if you're the Bills

824
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: gender manager. Well, the first step is to make sure

825
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: he keeps some bubble wrap around Josh Allen, right right,

826
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean he really did a nice job, didn't He

827
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: showed to me? He showed a great amount of toughness

828
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: last year, not just his ability to run the football,

829
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: which we evaluate him as a good runner. I don't

830
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: think any of us saw this all right, and if

831
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: we did, we probably should go buy some lottery tickets somewhere.

832
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: But being able to bounce back from from some big hits,

833
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: from some injuries, step in there and keep firing away.

834
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: I like what he showed that way. The second part

835
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: is the defense played awfully well. And you know Sean

836
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: mcdermot's special day. Going back to when I saw you

837
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: in preseason the Cincinnati Bengals game, offensive line was immediately

838
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: something just jumped out at me, and I think that's

839
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: still a place of huge need because I still remember

840
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: seeing Geno Atkins make that big play and I think

841
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: it was John Miller unfortunately took back and knocked down

842
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback and then that left the heck of an

843
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: impression on me. So I've been offensive line and this

844
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: is a good draft for offensive lineman. So let's talk

845
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: a little bit about free agency. You kind of want

846
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: to balance it so that when the draft does come up,

847
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: you can pick the best player available, no matter where

848
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: the need is. But by the same token, they're sitting

849
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: at number nine overall. Is there a guy worthy than

850
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: in the enterior the offensive line or do you believe

851
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: in taking an offensive lineman that early in the draft.

852
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Bill's having a number nine

853
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: overall pick. Yeah, I don't have a problem taking that

854
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 1: offensive line, and I know that a lot of people

855
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: was like, ah, I can get that value later. But

856
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: let's go through a few guys, now, Okay, Zack Martin

857
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: Dallas took him what was it like nineteen, and they

858
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: remember everybody scream and take Johnny Manziel left tackle, They

859
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: transitioned inside to guard and a lot of people say

860
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: he never take a guard that high. He's only been

861
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: an All Pro every year he's been in the league.

862
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: Remember they took Travis Frederick. We're all going guy Travis

863
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: Fredericks like a second third round guy. He's only been

864
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: an All Pro every time he's been out there, and

865
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: he's been healthy. Brandon Sheriff, left tackle from Iowa, transition inside.

866
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: He's a Pro Bowl guard. So I don't have that

867
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: problem what Quinton Nelson did last year for the Colts.

868
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: I mean he transformed not just an offensive line, helped

869
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: transform a team with his style of play mentality. So

870
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: I don't know that we have a Quintin Nelson, you

871
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But you have a number of options,

872
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: and one of those guys is Jonah Williams from Alabama.

873
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: But I like him at guard. See he's a left tackle.

874
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: I like him moving inside. I think he can be

875
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: a Brandon Sheriff and be a Pro Bowl guard. We

876
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: had a poll on our show a couple of weeks

877
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: go about how important this offseason is for Brandon, Brandon

878
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: Being and Sean McDermott. Is it more important than last

879
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: year where they got maybe their franchise quarterback. Is this

880
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: more important friend offseason for them or was last year

881
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: really the key because of the guy? I think getting

882
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback to it means everything. I mean, you

883
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: think about the teams you played on and what that

884
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: meant to have that guy standing there. So now you

885
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: build around that guy, give him the pieces that you're

886
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: looking for. So they have to continue to flordify. For Josh,

887
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: we talked about protecting him with the offensive line. Continue

888
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: to put those weapons around him so he can continue

889
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: to flourish. As much as I love watching him running

890
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: around like a single wingtail back, I'd rather see him

891
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: throw it more and I think the Bills would too.

892
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: All Right, I'll ask you one question that's not a

893
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: Bills related question. This is the kind of the Kyler

894
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: Murray festival here, and you know he came out five

895
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: ten and a eighth two hundred and seven pounds. What

896
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: are your thoughts about him and what Steve Kim said

897
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: yesterday and about his college. There's a lot of intrigue

898
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: that seems like there may be some movement at the

899
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: very tip top of this draft. Yeah, unless they've had

900
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: a conversation with Josh Roson and said We're going to

901
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: create a lot of smoke and see if people want

902
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: to come up and get that number one pick. Don't

903
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: you worry about it? If they haven't said that to him,

904
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: then yeah, there is a ton of injury going on

905
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: at right now. I didn't bank as much about what

906
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury said last year about Kyler Murray because he's

907
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: getting ready to play him as a head coach at

908
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. But it isn't play now and him measuring

909
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: to about Kyler Murray at five over five ten, he

910
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: probably won the combine right there, Steve, You know, and

911
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: just think about in your time frame now, we would

912
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: still be having questions about him if it weren't for

913
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Russell Wilson, what Drew Brees has done. If

914
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: those guys didn't have that success, we're saying he's still

915
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: an awfully small quarterback now five ten makes him feel

916
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: like he's sixty three. Charles Davis, thanks for spending some

917
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: time with us. You're listening to one Bills Live on

918
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. We'll be back after this. Welcome back

919
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: to the show. We are one of Bills Live, presented

920
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: by Hell from the NFL scouting combine, John Murphy and

921
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: Steve Taskers. So good conversation I had with Daniel Jeremiah.

922
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: The thing that stuck out with him for me was

923
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: the Kyler Kyler Murray, as we said with Daniel, has

924
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: become the story of the combine the measurements in today.

925
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: And there's a real possibility he could be the number

926
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: one overall pick by the Arizona Cardinals. And as I

927
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: asked Jeremiah, is that good value? And he said probably not,

928
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: but you know how it goes with quarterbacks. Yeah, I

929
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: think it'd be crazy to make him the number one

930
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 1: overall pick. I really I kind of agree. I haven't

931
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: seen the guy throw. I haven't seen him play. I

932
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: don't know anything about him, but I based a lot

933
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: of my evaluations on what has happened to him, what

934
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: people said about him when he first got on the radar.

935
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: And he's a Heisman Trophy winner, so the guy can play.

936
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: But you know, I just I want to see the

937
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: guy throw. I want to see what he looks like,

938
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, you want to lay eyes on him. And

939
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: I think the more information he here's the thing, all

940
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: these people that that say he's he's you know, I

941
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: don't know. They look at him. You know, they go

942
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: in there and watch him play. They've watched him live

943
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: play in college. And he's while he's really productive, you know,

944
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: he's running around from guys from you know, he's running

945
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: against guys from K State, you know, I mean, I

946
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: don't know, Um, he's not running away from guys like

947
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer and and you know Terrell

948
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: Suggs von Miller's of the world. You know, those guys.

949
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: Not too many quarterbacks out run him. And and we

950
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: had this conversation in the in the first segment about

951
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: him being short five ten, you read something about the

952
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: height of the quarterback draft in the first round, he'd

953
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: be the shortest quarterback drafted U since two thousand and three.

954
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: I can't find anybody in two thousand and three that

955
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: was a short quarter in the first round. You said,

956
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, I gotta go back. And Carson's that's

957
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: the Carson Palmer drafting he was. He's like six five.

958
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: He's not a short guy. And you know all the

959
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: guys that were drafted that in that draft, they're all

960
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: all these quarterbacks are tall. I don't know who the

961
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: who it was that was drafted or maybe in two

962
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: thousand and two that was you know, short, but you

963
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: just don't see it. You just don't see guys like

964
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: that getting drafted very much. And there's reasons for it,

965
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: there's and there's solid foundational reasons for You've got to

966
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: be able to see what you're throwing it to. Drew Brees,

967
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: no questions, had a Hall of Fame maybe if it

968
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: weren't for Tom Brady Drew Brees that have be in

969
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: the conversation for the goat, you know, best quarterback ever.

970
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: You only won one Super Bowl, but man, he's thrown

971
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: for five thousand yards five times. Nobody else has done

972
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: it twice. You got guys like Russell Wilson, He's won

973
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and should have won two. If he

974
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: would have thrown one less pass, it might have been two.

975
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: So you got these guys that are sub six foot

976
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: that have shown they can do it, or around six

977
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: foot they're shown they can do it. Baker Mayfield had

978
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: a great rookie season, a really nice rookie season. Certainly

979
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna play better in the coming years, but you know,

980
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: he exceeded expectations I think for a lot of people.

981
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: So they're hat and I think that's one of the

982
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: reasons why Kyler Murray's looked at differently now than he

983
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: would have ten years ago. You got guys who were

984
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: doing it at that height. The leak's face it. We

985
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: all complain about it, and we talk about it all

986
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: the time. Leaks change in Murph. Yeah, they last. They

987
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: protect these guys more so than any point in history,

988
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: and it's going to continue. He's only gonna get better

989
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: or or worse. Would every one decided the coin you

990
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: fall on. Charles Davis had some interesting thoughts on the bills,

991
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: right you're talking about would he he knows that, you know,

992
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: it's kind of he thinks, uh, this is a deep

993
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: draft for offensive lineman. He thinks you can get value.

994
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: He says, he does think that you can get a

995
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: guy at an offensive lineman an interior. He kind of

996
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: disagree with our boy, Bill Polian. He says, listen, take

997
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: the guy at number nine. I've taken interior guy. That's

998
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: number nine. You look at what Quentin Nelson did for

999
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. He was a fifth overall pick as

1000
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: a guard, went to the Pro Bowl as All pros

1001
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: a rookie, and He changed the entire attitude of the

1002
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: entire offense because of his nastiness, because of his athleticism,

1003
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: because of his ability to pancake people to a physical statement.

1004
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: So Charles Davis was like, yeah, you know what, this

1005
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: is a good draft for guy guards centers. He said,

1006
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: you know a lot of Dallas Cowboys had that run.

1007
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: A few years ago. They had the best offensive line

1008
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: maybe ever assembled. They drafted those guys, you know, two

1009
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: left tackles in college and moved him to guard, and

1010
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: now they're all Pro guard every year. That is a

1011
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: thought that you might have. And I've said it before too, Murph,

1012
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: and you might chime in on this too. I don't

1013
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: mind taking a kid in college who played left tackle

1014
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: and moving him down to guard. In the National foot guard, Yeah,

1015
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: they show athleticism at left tackle and stuff, and you've

1016
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: gotta be you gotta be a physical I gotta be

1017
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: genetically predisposed to play left tackle. In the NFL, you know,

1018
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: five ten guys don't play there, but at guard you can.

1019
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: You can be an athlete and be a big athlete

1020
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: and play in there and be very effective. And those

1021
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: guys are difference makers. So I it was interesting to say,

1022
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: you know what, we may take a guard or maybe

1023
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: a college left tackle in at number nine. Overall, we

1024
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: want to talk to Chris brown about this. He's got

1025
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: some thoughts on this, and he's going to join us

1026
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: here at the combine at one thirty. He's got some Obviously,

1027
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: the Bills need offensive lineman. Brownie happens to believe, and

1028
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: I won't speak from here where you can talk about

1029
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: this himself at one thirty, but he thinks guards are

1030
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: really what the Bills should be looking at. Guards. I

1031
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: can't agree with that, and I do think to your

1032
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: point on the changing nature of the league, we're at

1033
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: a point now where a guard can be just as

1034
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: important as a left tackle. You know, it's not beyond

1035
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: the part where you need a left tackle the Blockbruce Smith. No,

1036
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: you need offensive linemen over the pot, need a premium

1037
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: draft picks, right. I don't know. I don't know if

1038
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: that's right. That's the big question, and I think it

1039
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: depends on the guy. The guy who will pull the

1040
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: trigger on these moves are going to join us next.

1041
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, general manager of the Buffalo Bills. We'll talk

1042
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: to him about his current offensive lineman. The free agency

1043
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: has coming up from the Bills and guys who will

1044
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: like the hit free agency in less than a couple

1045
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: of weeks. We'll talk to him about the draft. We're

1046
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: talking about the Bills and where they're at. Brandon Bean,

1047
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: Bill's general manager, is going to be on the show

1048
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: with us when we come back, so make sure you

1049
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: come back as well. It's One Bills Live presented by

1050
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: Collida Health. We're live at the NFL Scouting Combine and

1051
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Speaker 1: indian and this is Buffalo Bills Radiofalo Bills Radio Network

1052
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: Stories Update, day two of our coverage of the NFL

1053
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Speaker 1: Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. Bills general manager Brandon Bean spent

1054
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: some time with the media today. It's on our show

1055
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: just a moment or two from now. Touchdown a variety

1056
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: of topics when he talked to the media, mentioning the

1057
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 1: team has talked with the agent for defensive lineman Jordan

1058
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: Phillips in recent weeks. Phillips LUs and two weeks away

1059
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: from free agency. Bean says he could be an important

1060
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: piece of Buffalo's defensive line picture. On the draft, Bean

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Speaker 1: says he sees a twenty nineteen draft class with good

1062
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 1: depth at tight end wide receiver and offensive line, maybe

1063
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: more depth than last year, he said Brandon Bean, moments

1064
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: away from being on our show with us Connor. Murray's

1065
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: measurements the big story here at the Combine today. The

1066
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: Oklahoma five feet ten and one eighth inches tall, two

1067
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: hundred and seven pounds, nine and a half inches his

1068
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: hand size. His measurements were important to many who wonder

1069
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: about his size and whether he is capable of playing

1070
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,959
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. He certainly is, but we'll find

1071
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: out where he goes in the drafts. From speculation that

1072
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: he may go as high as number one overall to

1073
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, Kyler Murray measured out well and his

1074
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: measurements today here at the Combine breaking NFL news just

1075
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: a moment ago. Jason Witten has decided he's not done

1076
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: playing football yet. He retired from the NFL last May,

1077
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: went to Monday Night Football, but he's coming back to

1078
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys for what will be his sixteenth NFL season.

1079
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: Played fifteen years for the Cowboys, eleven Pro Bowls, Jason

1080
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: Witten has decided that he's gonna give it a go again,

1081
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: stepping back onto the field with the Dallas Cowboys this

1082
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: upcoming season and Savers Hockey. The Sabers in practice today

1083
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: and he's set for to morrow night's game against the

1084
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Penguins. Pittsburgh coming off a five two win over

1085
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: Columbus on Tuesday. Savers back to back games this week end.

1086
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: After the game against Pittsburgh tomorrow, they go right to

1087
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: Toronto for another game against some Maple Leafs who they

1088
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: just played on Monday. They'll play them in Toronto on

1089
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: Saturday night. And that's the sports update from the NFL

1090
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 1: Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. Oh great time text text down time,

1091
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: Welcome back. How are doing the show? John Murfey's team

1092
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: tasker won Bill's line at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis,

1093
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 1: joined by a familiar face, one of our favorite guests.

1094
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: We've got Bills general manager Brandon Bean with us year

1095
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: on our broadcast location. I say that because I want

1096
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: you to come on the show more often. That's why

1097
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 1: you didn't tell McDermott he was one of his favorite days.

1098
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: I might have said that yesterday. As a matter of fact, Well,

1099
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: let us slide this kid. Thanks for saying when you

1100
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: and I passed each other in the hallway last week

1101
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: and we were talking a little bit and you said

1102
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: something that's kind of resonated with me about, Yes, the

1103
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: combine is here and there's there's TV, and there's stuff

1104
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: going on, and everybody sees the tangible results, but there's

1105
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: also like a subcombine that you were talking about, people

1106
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: just talking and exchanging ideas from different teams. Yeah. I

1107
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: assume that started already, right, Yeah, you know, uh, as

1108
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: you come here, there's you've you've obviously looked through free agency.

1109
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: There's reports on guys that have inflated cap numbers and

1110
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: things like that. So you're always looking for ways to

1111
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: improve your roster. And so yes, some of those conversations,

1112
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: I had a call. I've had three calls last week. Hey,

1113
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: just to get you ahead of the curve. We're we

1114
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: may move on from you know, these guys on these

1115
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: teams and asking me did I have any guys that

1116
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: they should look at or any positions, and so that

1117
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: way when we run into them here, Hey, what did

1118
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: you think about this player? Would there be any interest

1119
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 1: in a swap or a swap for picks? And and

1120
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: that will pick up even more once we get it

1121
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: into the workouts. Because what happens is you're on the dome,

1122
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: you're on these suites, and this group will run and

1123
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: then there's, you know, twenty thirty minut it's a dead time,

1124
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: and so you walk down the hall, you see your

1125
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: buddy from this team that team, and sometimes conversations you

1126
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: didn't even know we're gonna happen happen where you're talking

1127
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: about your roster and well, you know what, we're heavy

1128
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: this position, if that's what you think you need, and

1129
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: and so who knows if anything will come to fruition,

1130
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: but we're always looking to improve our roster, and if

1131
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: there's a chance to do that, we'll try and make

1132
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: that move. And then it's this draft, and it always

1133
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: happens that some something kind of overriding comes through. This year,

1134
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: it's Kyler Murray and his size and his physical measurements

1135
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: and is he gonna throw a is he gonna run?

1136
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: And and you've said and it's obvious, and we've talked

1137
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: about it a couple of times. You're not in that

1138
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: horse race anymore. Yeah, and you've already got you know,

1139
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: you've already got your guy. And it's nice to sit

1140
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: there and watch the you know, you can kind of

1141
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: relate to it on one hand, but then the other hand,

1142
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: it's like, man, I am so glad I'm not in

1143
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: that fight now. I found myself when the quarterbacks were

1144
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: walking across the stage after they're getting weighed and measured

1145
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: all that stuff, watching who's really focused on every little

1146
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: thing of going year ago? Here we were here scrutinizing

1147
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: every little thing, every measurement. Okay, that's his hand size,

1148
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: Okay he measures out of this, what's he way? And

1149
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: and just what's his body look like? And obviously we're

1150
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: still looking at these guys and writing our own notes.

1151
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: But uh, it's funny the teams that you kind of

1152
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: know are in that market. Obviously everybody knew was no

1153
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 1: secret at what market we were in a year ago. Um,

1154
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: so it's I'm glad we're where we're at, and we

1155
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: know we got a lot of work to do. Though

1156
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: you might hear from some of those quarterback needy teams

1157
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 1: right with the ninth pick in the first round, we could,

1158
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: we could, Um it'll be interesting, you know. It's, uh,

1159
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: everybody's playing poker right now with what they're gonna do,

1160
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: and we were doing the same last year. Um, I

1161
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: think as the process goes, you know, there may be

1162
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: there may be some names that people have as the

1163
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth quarterback, but uh, in a couple of months,

1164
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: those things can flip three or four times, and so, um,

1165
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: I think it will be interesting to see how it

1166
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: plays out and how many guys do go in the

1167
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: top ten. It's a quarterback league. If you think that

1168
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: guy fits your team, then you got to be aggressive

1169
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: to go get them if you want them. The last

1170
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: thing you want to do is be sitting on your

1171
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: hands and watching somebody else go get a guy that

1172
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: you like. So you've had, you've you've been doing this

1173
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: general managers thing. Your counterpart, Steve come yesterday made this

1174
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: statement that still resonates with a lot of people there.

1175
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: They've got the first pick of the draft, and a

1176
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: lot of times that pick ends up being a quarterback,

1177
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: whether he deserves to be there or not. So he

1178
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: says they've got their guy for right now. So does

1179
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: that to you as a poker player? Yeah, what's that

1180
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: tell you about the Cardinals they've got Is that kind

1181
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: of throws their front door open for business? Does it not? Yeah?

1182
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't hear the words, but you know,

1183
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: if what you're saying sounds like you know they're saying

1184
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: right now, then maybe that doesn't mean in two months

1185
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: from now. I don't I don't know. I don't pretend

1186
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: to know. I haven't seen Steve, but I'll ask him

1187
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: about it when I run into him and see what

1188
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: he says. But yeah, I mean, listen, maybe they're playing

1189
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: poker two. Maybe they want to make people think that

1190
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: they're going to draft a quarterback so that somebody comes

1191
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 1: up and gives them a whole haul a pick. So um,

1192
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: A lot can be read into that um, and that

1193
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: maybe that's exactly what Steve wanted to say. We're with

1194
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: the Bills, generalmanag You're Brandon being here at the combine,

1195
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: you're putting in long days. How much of your time

1196
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: is spent on meetings with agents? And who are these

1197
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: agents are for your current guys or both? Both? Yep, yep.

1198
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: So um, you're always you know, you're always talking to

1199
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: two teams, but you're you're generally you know, you agents

1200
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: are here. This is a thing for everybody. So you

1201
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: run into you have a coffee whatever, and sometimes there's

1202
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: agents that are here that are representing players that are

1203
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: getting draft and you talk about who they've got and

1204
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: and because what happens is some of these guys you

1205
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: want to get on privates and pro days, so you

1206
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: want to try and if it's a hot name, you

1207
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: got certain days that fits your schedule. Hey, can we

1208
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: this pro days on March the fifteenth? Can we get

1209
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: them on March the eighteenth and do that? So, but

1210
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: we'll obviously talk to agents that our guys have that

1211
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: maybe we're still trying to extend and so forth. But

1212
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 1: it's good to see him. There's a lot of good guys,

1213
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 1: and we have our contingent of Jim Overdorff and Kevin

1214
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: me Gang and they're here and maybe you know, who knows,

1215
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: maybe we walk out of here and have one of

1216
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: our guys extended. Well, let's talk about some of your guys,

1217
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: and let me start with the guy you were asked

1218
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: about this morning, Jordan Phillips, who would seem with the

1219
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: retiring of Kyle Williams, he might have a maybe have

1220
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: a bigger role to play. That's got to be a

1221
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: factor in any conversation you would have with him or

1222
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: his agent right now, right, Yeah, most definitely, I mean Jordan,

1223
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: Jordan has started some of this league. He's backed up.

1224
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: He was a second round pick. M He's a talented

1225
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: young man for certain reasons that everything hasn't played out

1226
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: perfectly for him. That's why he was available. I thought

1227
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 1: he brought a great energy to our team, especially at home.

1228
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: He was. I mean, he really he brought an energy

1229
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: in an edge and that's what I That's kind of

1230
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: one thing that I told him. I said, hey, Uh,

1231
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 1: if I was being critical of you, I would say, hey,

1232
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: just add a little bit more of that on the road. Uh.

1233
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: And not that he wasn't, but I really felt him

1234
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: at home a little bit more. And one thing he said,

1235
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: he said, I love playing in the stadium. I love

1236
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 1: our fans. And I said, I told you you're gonna

1237
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: love this place like a college and uh he said,

1238
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: that's that's a good point. And he took it. And

1239
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: he's like, I just love playing in our stadium and

1240
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: our fans. And uh, he's a neat kid. Uh. You know,

1241
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: we we'd love to get him back, but he's a

1242
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: free agent. He's earned that right and he's got to

1243
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: make a business decision. And we have a value we

1244
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: put on him, and his agent has a value they

1245
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: put on him. So, uh, we'll see what happens. Could

1246
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: he be an answer at that position though? Yeah, he

1247
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: is talented. He can he can rush the passer, he

1248
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: can play the run, he can do different things. I

1249
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: mean he's he's a big kid. He's got athletic ability. Again, Um,

1250
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: I know exactly why he was drafting the second round.

1251
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: I was in Carolina when that was going on. But

1252
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: we had good grades on Jordan as well. You know,

1253
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: it's where it's all a big balance and every said

1254
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: it's so excited about all the money that you guys

1255
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: have to spend in the cap and and you kind

1256
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: of positioned yourself over the last eight. Team must to

1257
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: get there. You're here, But all of a sudden then

1258
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: you got you know what, we got some guys that

1259
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: we have that we don't want to be free agents.

1260
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: You know, it's a balance. There's like fifteen you know,

1261
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: oranges that you got to keep in the air all

1262
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: the time. You're trying to juggle the balance between which

1263
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: guys to keep, which guys to extend, and which guys

1264
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: to kind of say, hey, thanks, it's been great, but

1265
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: we're going to go in a different direction. Plus go

1266
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: out and shop. Yeah, yeah. I mean it's you've you've

1267
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: got a lot of a lot of irons in the

1268
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: fire right now, and it's this is the time of year,

1269
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: and this is just one more of them that's being

1270
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: at the combine. What you know, what's the next step,

1271
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: tangible step you guys need to take to move forward

1272
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: in the process of this offseason. Well, I think it is.

1273
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: You know, we've we've gone through for our free agency meetings.

1274
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: We've had two rounds of draft meetings, so we see

1275
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: where the value is on the boards, where we can

1276
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, if we don't get this position in free agency,

1277
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: we'll have opportunities in our mind throughout the draft to

1278
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: add guys. So that's part of your planning. If it's

1279
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: a thin position, you know, you go, man, we probably

1280
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: better take a good shot at it in free agency

1281
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: within reason. But if it's not, you can say, hey,

1282
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: let's try and free agency. But hopefully, you know, we

1283
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: think in the mid rounds we could really get a

1284
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: guy of value to add. So we've done all that. Unfortunately,

1285
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: free agency's very fluid, so you can put your target.

1286
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: We got our A targets, our B targets, our C targets.

1287
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: We've got price values that we think they fit in

1288
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: the comps around the league. But again, all it takes

1289
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: is one team and you can put a guy and

1290
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: you think he fits in the eight to nine million

1291
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: dollar year and one team pays him twelve. Well, that

1292
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: would be stupid for me if I did my due

1293
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: diligence on him before that other team paid him twelve

1294
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: and I said, I'll pay you twelve and a half

1295
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: to get you. That's how you get yourself where This

1296
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: team was quite candidly and to your point. We have

1297
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: guys that we're trying to grow and build our culture

1298
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: and build our thing. The last thing I want to

1299
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: do is let a good player that we've spent all

1300
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: this time developing walk out of the building on his

1301
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: own terms because he didn't want to be there or

1302
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: we didn't have the money. And so we have to

1303
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: be smart, judicious whatever word I've used since the seasons

1304
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: over uh with our spending, and we do have to

1305
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: add pieces. We understand there are holes, um, but we

1306
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: also have to plan one eye today and one eye tomorrow.

1307
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: I can't spend at all, and then this these draft

1308
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: classes the last two years come up and we're in

1309
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: cap hell. And we can we can't sign them. On

1310
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: the topic of free agency and your offensive line in particular,

1311
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: you've got three of them, three guys who I'm the

1312
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: roster for the last couple of years, Mills, Miller, and

1313
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: Groy who are hitting free agency. Are is there interest

1314
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: there and bringing him back? And I wonder if you

1315
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: are you eager to see maybe what Bobby Johnson might

1316
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: be able to provide for that that group or some

1317
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: of that group. Where are you with those three? Yeah,

1318
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we're definitely talking to those guys. Um. You know,

1319
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: Jordan and Um and john have the same agent, so

1320
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: that's easy, um. But package deal, so we'll definitely meet

1321
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: with with their representative here and Ryan's as well. And

1322
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: and listen, it's again, these guys have hit free agency.

1323
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: They've earned the right to find out what their market

1324
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: is and they're not gonna I understand it. They've waited

1325
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: this long. They don't want to sign something that they

1326
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: think and maybe they don't agree with our value either.

1327
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: That's that's any position, not necessarily these guys. So that's

1328
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: coming up, you know, March thirteenth. All these things will

1329
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: start getting answered to fall into place. But if these guys.

1330
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: If we bring them back, great, If not, we'll wish

1331
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: them the best. These are three good young men as people,

1332
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: and every one of them gave everything they had, whether

1333
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: they were starting or whether they were the backup. And

1334
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: so I have nothing but great things to say about

1335
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: all three with general manager Brandon being now, let's get

1336
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: to the topic here for the most part, which is

1337
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: the draft picks, the prospects that you're seeing overall. Can

1338
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 1: you not answer for a great but maybe a sense

1339
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: of what kind of a draft class this is in

1340
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, where what positions are strong for instance? Yeah,

1341
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: I mean it was my pressure. I was talking, and

1342
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to run through them all,

1343
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: but you know, I think there is some tight end depth.

1344
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: I think there's some D line debt, but I think

1345
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: there's depth throughout. I think it's a right now without

1346
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: hearing the medical and I still haven't met some guys,

1347
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: but I think there's more depth in the whole draft

1348
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: than I would say there was a year ago in

1349
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: what I saw. I think there's gonna you're me to

1350
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: find some players a little deeper in the draft potentially,

1351
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: But again it's February. Things change I've been some years

1352
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: where we thought it was we had a lot of

1353
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: guys on our board, and are the medical grades come

1354
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: back and some guys are d's and f's, and the

1355
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: docs are worried that they're gonna last three years. So

1356
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: you start going, man, I had a guy in the

1357
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: second round, and we're worried he's gonna last three years.

1358
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: I can't I can't spend a second third round pick

1359
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: on that you know ed you Pressor also came up

1360
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: today about receivers perceived by many to be an area

1361
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: of need. It's a really good point you made about rookies.

1362
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: Marvel Lous used to say this all the time. It

1363
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: takes rookie wide receivers take a year or two to

1364
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: get ready to play. That may even be more so

1365
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 1: now with the way that the college football has played.

1366
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: You talked about that, how how important the interview of

1367
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: you was. Are here for the receivers to see what

1368
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: they know and what they can learn right, most definitely,

1369
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, with the spread offense and all the signaling

1370
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: to the sidelines, and you got a coach for the

1371
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: skills or a coach. Some guys have one coach for

1372
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: one player telling him exactly what to do. And some

1373
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 1: guys only line up on the left side every play,

1374
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's fourth and one, first and ten,

1375
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: if they're backed up, if they're going in. And so

1376
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: now we have to decipher is he only on that

1377
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: spot because that's all he can learn, or is he

1378
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: on that spot because that's the way the coach designed

1379
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: the offense just to make it as easy as possible.

1380
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: There was a receiver coming out of school. This guy

1381
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: has been four or five years ago coming out and

1382
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: same thing. This guy always lined up on their sideline.

1383
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: So in the first quarter he's playing on the left,

1384
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: the second quarter he's playing on the right. And I

1385
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: was you know, there was a lot of tells and

1386
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: met the kid and you find out the kid was

1387
01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: a great kid, but he struggled to learn, and so

1388
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: I think they had him close to sideline too quickly.

1389
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: You know, maybe somebody was telling them coverage. You know,

1390
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but we had learned concerns

1391
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: on them, and it kind of answered itself the film.

1392
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: That was odd. And then as we met with a

1393
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: young man, uh, you found out, you know, learning was

1394
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: was a little bit of an issue for him on

1395
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: receivers and Bills fans. NFL fans can watch these receivers

1396
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: and quarterback Saturday on TV. What would you tell fans

1397
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: to look for when they're watching receivers on TV Saturday?

1398
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: What traits, what the what the ability should they be

1399
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: looking for? Yeah, I mean I think you're looking for

1400
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: the guys that, Um, who who's the team going to

1401
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: when they need a big play? Uh, it's third down,

1402
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: it's but it's I'm talking about combined workouts. Now. Oh,

1403
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: I'd like to talk about end season. Um, you know

1404
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: here you're obviously you're gonna look at speed, right, Okay, Um,

1405
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: how clean does a guy catch the ball? You know,

1406
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: we're watching some guys you know they catch it here.

1407
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: Some guys like to cradle it. They don't want to

1408
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: and that that's hard in our league. If if the

1409
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: easy ones, you know, there is a time when you

1410
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: got to do it. You're doing that comeback and you

1411
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: know it's the ball is gonna come right into your

1412
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: chest and do that. But the guys that are, you know,

1413
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: they don't trust those hands. That's gonna probably catch up

1414
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: to them a little bit. Now. The guys that can

1415
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: get away with it are the ones that can super

1416
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: fly and they can at least track it well enough.

1417
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: That's still a weapon to you know, to have. But

1418
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: you're looking at all this measurement the vertical. You know,

1419
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: those guys that are the leapers that vertical jumps big.

1420
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: You know, when you throw those fade balls, that's a

1421
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: huge weapon. You get down on the red zone and

1422
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: you can throw it up and you can know your

1423
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: guy is gonna get it above the rim. Do you So?

1424
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: You said that there's a lot of depth across the

1425
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: board in this draft. Talk a little bit about the

1426
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: big guys up front. There's some offensive lineman, tackles, guards.

1427
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: You know, you've you've got to weigh the now the

1428
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: value of how good you think those guys can play

1429
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: against the guys you have, and what you're gonna have

1430
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: to pay them to extend them, that kind of thing.

1431
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: Talk about this draft class and the guys down inside, guards, centers,

1432
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: that kind of guy. Yeah, I do think there's some guys,

1433
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: uh And I think there are some guys that we

1434
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, we've even talked to that have have position flex.

1435
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: The best offensive lines are the ones that can play

1436
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,919
Speaker 1: multiple spots, either center, guard or guard. Tackle those one

1437
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: hole guys. Uh, you can't have too many of those

1438
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: or you're gonna get yourself in trouble on game day.

1439
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: We like to go with seven active you know, a

1440
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: guy that can play guard, tackle, and a guy that

1441
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: could play center guard. If you got one that's center only,

1442
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: it gets tough, um, you know to do that. So

1443
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: we do think there's some guys uh in this draft. Again,

1444
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think there's some decent depth there. I'm

1445
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: not gonna say there's you know, elite players you know

1446
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: at the top, but I do think there's some depth.

1447
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: And there again, there's some different flavors. There's some road

1448
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: graders guys, and then there's some guys that are very

1449
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: athletic that can move with some of these fast d

1450
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: ns that you got to have to you know, to

1451
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: keep the you know, the von Miller's and so off

1452
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: your quarterback. You jump down Spencer Long within days of

1453
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: his release bay the Jets. What did you like about him?

1454
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: You know? Uh, Spencer. So it's funny when he got released, Uh,

1455
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: I called Jeremiah Cyriles and Uh, Jeremiah and I had

1456
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: had a conversation when he left town. I asked him

1457
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: where he was going what he's doing, He's going back

1458
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: in Nebraska. And he was telling me who all he

1459
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: was working out with and who comes and he mentioned

1460
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: Spencer and he lives in his basement. He's gonna get

1461
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: kicked out though the babies when the baby comes, what

1462
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: he told me. But uh so we that we had

1463
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: that conversation. But in my mind Spencer was of the Jets.

1464
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: So I just kind of and so I texted Jeremiah said, hey,

1465
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: I Joe saw the Jets released Spencer. Anything up, anything

1466
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: you know about And he didn't know. He said, I

1467
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: worked out with this morning. I hadn't seen him. Uh

1468
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: So checked in with him and said, hey, we would

1469
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: have interest. You know, we were interested in Spencer when

1470
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: he hit free agency last year. Um, the Jets paid him,

1471
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, a nice deal and um, you know we

1472
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: had our cap constraints, but he has a lot of

1473
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: starts in the league. He didn't come in as a center.

1474
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: He kind of learns his way as a center. We

1475
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: view Spencer, uh as a pros pro fits our culture,

1476
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 1: a tough guy. Um who can play center, can play guard,

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01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: and he'll come in and compete. We're not you know,

1478
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: we don't do this. We just don't believe in saying

1479
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: this guy is, you know, he's slated to start here,

1480
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna add pieces in competition to our O line

1481
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: and let the dust settle, you know how it may.

1482
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: But we were excited to get Spencer and we structured

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01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: his deal so to speak. If if he's starting, he'll

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01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: get he'll get paid a little bit more. If he's

1485
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: maybe he's backed up then to get a little bit less.

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01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: That's time for just a couple more. I want to

1487
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,919
Speaker 1: ask you about you didn't answer. I'm no, I'm good.

1488
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: We talked about this on the show yesterday, Steve and I.

1489
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: An underrated aspect of of Josh Allen's second year is

1490
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: the fact that he doesn't have to share reps anymore.

1491
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: When you come April fifteenth, when the players show up

1492
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: for offseason workouts, you'll be the guy. I mean, he'll

1493
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: get most of the reps. I would think, right, that's huge. Um,

1494
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: you know we were in the situation that we were

1495
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: last year. A lot are doing in our planning to

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01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: try and find a franchise guy. But um, you know,

1497
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: we didn't know who we would be able to draft

1498
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: when we went in a free agency, and we had

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01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: you know, Nathan on the roster and aj we signed

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01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: in free agency, so we just felt like, let's don't

1501
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: rush the rookie. And so Josh was getting mostly the threes.

1502
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 1: And you know, while that was good for his his growth,

1503
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: keeping him at you know, the right pace, the negative

1504
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: was he missed out on a lot of reps, not

1505
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: only reps in general, but reps with those starters. Then

1506
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,799
Speaker 1: when he started playing, he wasn't playing a lot with

1507
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: with that first groups, the Charles Clay's, the Calvin Benjamin's,

1508
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: the Zay Jones. So he didn't have the rapport. I

1509
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: think that's part of the reason it clicks so well

1510
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: with Robert. You know, he and Robert had probably thrown

1511
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 1: together more than anybody and of who was remaining on

1512
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: the roster. So it'll be great, I know, it'll be

1513
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, relieving for Josh to know he's coming in

1514
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: as the one and we don't have to play the well,

1515
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: I don't know when you're gonna start and all that.

1516
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: You know that game. Yeah, and one more for you. You

1517
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: You hired Dennis Locke football research director. What's his role

1518
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: gonna be? What are gonna have him do? So Um,

1519
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: Dennis was in Miami. I was aware of Dennis. Hikey

1520
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: had hired him, and Joe It had worked with him

1521
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: even after Dennis had left Miami, and so those two

1522
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: had mentioned him as we started our analytics build here.

1523
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: We kind of just started from ground up, and Um,

1524
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: so he became available with the transition changes that Miami

1525
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: they uh they didn't get rid of him, but uh,

1526
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: we pounced. We kind of let them have Marvin Allen

1527
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: for for that role. And so we reached out and said, hey,

1528
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 1: we got a guy that we would like to increase

1529
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: his role here and and he did some things with coaching,

1530
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: So right now he'll he'll spend his his spring more

1531
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: doing some personnel things for us, and then he'll probably

1532
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: spend I'd say it's gonna be seventy five twenty five

1533
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: in the spring personnel and flipped sent twenty five coaching,

1534
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: just game planning, helping with all the stuff. You know,

1535
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: he'll be looking at running numbers and what teams are

1536
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,879
Speaker 1: doing in tendencies and things like that. Just another added

1537
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: analytical element to what we see on tape. Thanks you

1538
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: your time. Say try if you guys want to ride back,

1539
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 1: let me know random Bean is the Bills general manager

1540
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: joining us here at the combine. Chris Brown coming up next.

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01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 1: It's one Bills Live, presented by Kalaida Health from the

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01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine on Buffalo Bill's reading Welcome back to

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01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: the show, Welcome back to the Combine and Indie John

1544
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 1: Murphy's team tasker one Bills Live from the NFL Scouting Combine,

1545
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: an indie joined by our buddy Chris Brown. Bills Inside

1546
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: or Buffalo Bills dot Com. Your first appearance on the

1547
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 1: show since we've been here at the combine, But I

1548
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: feel like you've been with us all week. You're sitting

1549
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: right over there doing your work. It's like Chris being

1550
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: out of the camera shot right over there. You can't

1551
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: miss it, and it's like he's been with us. He

1552
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: critiques during breaks, he corrects, he tells us, you know

1553
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: where we're wrong. It's like you've been part of the show.

1554
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,560
Speaker 1: Jour manager. Yeah, sure, right over a big plate of

1555
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 1: sandwiches that nobody touched a few minutes ago. But thanks,

1556
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: thanks for coming by. It's um hasn't been an extremely

1557
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: newsworthy combine, especially for the Buffalo Bills yet, But if

1558
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: you if you pay attention, which I know you do

1559
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: more than anybody, and you listen to what McDermott and

1560
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: Bean have said. There's some interesting places that they're going here,

1561
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 1: I think yeah. And it was evident to me based

1562
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: on what Bean said today that they and I mentioned

1563
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: this in a piece that I just put up on

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01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot com, that they are going to pursue

1565
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: all avenues to acquire offensive line talent I mean Brandon

1566
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 1: Basics and you know that might say, well, no, dull,

1567
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: they need help. But I think there's a little bit

1568
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: of a balancing act at work there because you don't

1569
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: know who you're going to be competing with for maybe

1570
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 1: some of the free agent talent that you find attractive

1571
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: that you deem a fit for the Bills, not knowing

1572
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: if two or three other teams are going to be

1573
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: coming after those guys as well, even within your own division.

1574
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: Because the Jets need old line help desperately, and they

1575
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: have just as much cat money, so there could be

1576
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: some bidding wars that they don't want to be a

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01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 1: part of. Now they might have to go in a

1578
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: different direction. And then there's the draft, which fortunately for

1579
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: the Bills, has a deep class this year a tackle

1580
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: endit card. That's what I was gonna ask. Does that

1581
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: does it say we're gonna pursue all avenues? Does that

1582
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: mean going high in the draft for a offensive line

1583
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: Does that mean that stuff that you didn't think they

1584
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: would do to get an offensive lineman there now is

1585
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: on the table. Well, going high in the draft on

1586
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: an offensive number nine top ten is probably going to

1587
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: be predicated on what they're able to acquire in free agency. First.

1588
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean, if they take a swing and miss, like

1589
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: let's just say hypothetically, they're thinking, we need a veteran

1590
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: starting guard and free agency gotta get one. We need

1591
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: some kind of leader on that front that's got experience

1592
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: in the league, has been there and done that playoff

1593
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: experience would be a bonus. This would all be great bag.

1594
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: And let's also get a tackle that we know can

1595
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: play in line up every week. You know, if they

1596
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 1: only get one of those, you know, now maybe you

1597
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: do have to go high in the draft on an

1598
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. If you get both of those pieces, maybe

1599
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: you can wait a little bit. So you know, there

1600
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: are shifting dynamics there that are gonna be taking place.

1601
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: But I think it's safe to say, based on what

1602
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: we were getting from being today that they're probably gonna

1603
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,560
Speaker 1: make use of free agency to add on the offensive

1604
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: line and the draft to add on the offensive They

1605
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: need numbers, guys. Yeah, I came back from the senior

1606
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: bow I think I told you. I know, I told Steve,

1607
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: and I observed Brandon being just locked onto the offensive

1608
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 1: lineman down the fomobile. I mean, he wouldn't leave the

1609
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: offensive line workouts, and I thought, oh, shoot, he's gonna

1610
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: He's gonna drafted offensive linement. But you're saying maybe free

1611
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: agents as well. Yeah, I think it's both. It has

1612
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: to be both, because right now you've got three guys

1613
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: who are starters at the end of the year, who

1614
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 1: are free agents, and who's to say any of them

1615
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: will be back. It wasn't It wasn't a year to

1616
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: write home about for offensive line performance. So you've got

1617
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 1: John Miller, Ryan Groy, and Jordan Mills that center, right garden,

1618
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: right tackle for the last half of the season and

1619
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: they could all be out the door, and what you

1620
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: have behind them, to a large degree, are backup type players.

1621
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: So you have to get starting caliber talent. And as

1622
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: much as you want to say Yeah, it's a DEEPO

1623
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: line class, and this is great. I don't think you

1624
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: want to go into the year hoping that if you

1625
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: added hypothetically three rookies that they're all ready to play

1626
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: football and start Sundays and line up next to each other.

1627
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 1: Albeit at that you and I were talking off there

1628
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 1: this morning about the role that the new offensive line

1629
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: coach Bobby Johnson might have to play in whatever they

1630
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: do in the offensive line. Are they counting on him

1631
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: to make a difference with the new faces they bring in?

1632
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 1: Does he bring in any new faces of his own?

1633
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean, remember Eric gud on our show said, typically

1634
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: an offensive line coach, especially will bring in guys he's

1635
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: worked with, right guy, Yeah, because coaches always like what

1636
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 1: they know for sure, Yeah, because everything anybody they don't. Yeah,

1637
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: they trust them at least they know what they got

1638
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: and they can work with it. But what do you think, well, yeah,

1639
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean, and a perfect example for Bobby Johnson is

1640
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: Rams free agent guard Roger Staffold. He coached him in

1641
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: Indiana and college, so there's a relationship there that Does

1642
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: that mean the Bills are going going after Roger Saffold? Well,

1643
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, but there is a connection, that a

1644
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: line that you can draw from one guy to the other.

1645
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 1: It's a position of need. He's a veteran player, proven

1646
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: veteran pelts on the wall, starts under his belt, played

1647
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: on a Super Bowl team. I mean, he makes a

1648
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: lot of sense to me at the guard position for

1649
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: the Bills, and I would love to see them go

1650
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 1: after him. And you know, there's there's hopefully the relationship,

1651
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: albeit several years in the rear view mirror, going back

1652
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: to the college days of this player who's now thirty

1653
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: one years old. You would hope that could at least

1654
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: open the lines of communication and give the Bills a

1655
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: fighting chance to go after him if he even gets

1656
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 1: to the market. One more question about offensive lineman. Do

1657
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: you think there's any future in Buffalo for the three

1658
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 1: that you mentioned, Groy, John Miller, and Jordan Mills Because

1659
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: I asked the question of Brandon, you know, when he

1660
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 1: was just on the show of this, and he was noncommittal,

1661
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: didn't rule out bringing him back, but certainly noncommittal about

1662
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 1: whether there's interests. Yeah, I don't get the sense that

1663
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 1: any of them are a high priority right at least

1664
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: I think three of them will come back. Maybe yeah.

1665
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean I think all three right now as they

1666
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: see it, based on what they know about this draft

1667
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 1: class and what should be available in free agency. I

1668
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: don't know this, but just trying to read the tea

1669
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: leaves a little bit, it feels like they see them

1670
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,600
Speaker 1: as fallback options. I could be wrong, but they're not

1671
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: banging the table like we want this guy back, just

1672
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 1: as just as Brandon did on your air here a

1673
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: short time ago. You know, and you also have to

1674
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: assess this, this is what this is why you have

1675
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: those end of season evaluations on every player on your roster.

1676
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: Jordan Mills, you know, what was his best game? What

1677
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: was his worst game? What's his overall body of work

1678
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: for us this past season? Did he regress in twenty

1679
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 1: eighteen from what he did in twenty seventeen? Is he

1680
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 1: already tapped out? There's no more ascent left to his game.

1681
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: He's reached his ceiling. He is what he is? Can

1682
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: we get by with that? Can we do better? Next? Guy?

1683
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: John Miller twenty five years old, has a lot of

1684
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: starting experience for a young player. But was he any good?

1685
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: Did he regrets last year? I think a lot of

1686
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: people would say he did Ryan Groy looked magnificent when

1687
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: he filled in for Eric Wood two seasons ago in

1688
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen and played the last seven games at center.

1689
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 1: He hasn't looked that good the last two years when

1690
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 1: he's had an opportunity to get back on the field.

1691
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: Why is that? And if it is coaching, how much

1692
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: faith do you put in Bobby Johnson that he can

1693
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 1: make that guy right again and a serviceable player that

1694
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: can help us. He can make John Miller is starting

1695
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: caliber guard again. If you believe in all of that,

1696
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: knowing what you know about the players, well then yes,

1697
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 1: you make a concerted effort to bring one or two

1698
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: of them back. Sure of that. I think they're going

1699
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: to be looking at better looking for better up and

1700
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: we've been told, I think Charles Davis told us this

1701
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: is a deep offensive line draft. So that being said,

1702
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: there's always there are always these guys. If you do

1703
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 1: get a better guy in the fifth round this year,

1704
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 1: he might have been gone in the fourth round in

1705
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,759
Speaker 1: years past or the late third round in the past,

1706
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: is because the depth is pushing him down. Um that

1707
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: goes at the bottom of the draft as well. There

1708
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: may be a better crop of rookie free agents ready

1709
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: to be signed by teams after the draft than there

1710
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: would have been in other years because there are so

1711
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 1: many guys at the top of this draft. But you

1712
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: really can't count on that, right I mean, here's what.

1713
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: You can't count on anything in the draft, right, um,

1714
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 1: because you don't know what's gonna happen unless you pick

1715
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: the guy. You don't know what's gonna happen unless you're

1716
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: on the clock, right Okay, you don't know what's going on.

1717
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: You got a chance, you really don't. So yeah, it's

1718
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm My thought in that was there'll

1719
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: be guys available perhaps later in this draft that will

1720
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: be better options for the Bills going forward than any

1721
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 1: of the three guys were talking about it their offensive

1722
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: mind that we're starting at. But again, we have to

1723
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: go back to this, Steve. Let's even if the Bills

1724
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: are able to get a veteran guard that they can

1725
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: plug and play and put in the lineup, even if

1726
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: they get maybe they want to upgrade its center and

1727
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 1: they get a really good center in free agency. So

1728
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: you got a guard and a center in the middle

1729
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: of your line. You go with why a teller and

1730
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 1: left guard? You got Dawkins and left tackle, and you

1731
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 1: still need a starting offensive tackle. So are you drafting

1732
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: that in the fifth round? Probably not if you can

1733
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: do better. So you probably still have to invest a

1734
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 1: Day two pick at the very least to get a

1735
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: guy that can start for you right away, right out

1736
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: of school. And those are harder to come by two

1737
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 1: because nobody's in a three point stance anymore, you know.

1738
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 1: And this is a team that still wants to run

1739
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: the football, I believe. So you know, there's so many

1740
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 1: moving parts to it that you could pick any scenario

1741
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: and any one of them could come true. Yeah, But

1742
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 1: I think what the facts are is they got three

1743
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: spots they gotta fill on this offensive line, the starting line,

1744
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to use every means necessary to

1745
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 1: make sure they acquire enough to put on the field

1746
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: and be a better offensive line than they were last year.

1747
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 1: Chris Brown Bills inside of Buffalo Bills dot Com. Let's

1748
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: turn your attention Chris to receivers for a moment a year.

1749
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: And I thought Brandon and Being a minute ago made

1750
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: a really good nuanced point about how important the meetings

1751
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: will be, the interviews they do with these draft prospects.

1752
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: Because because of the tough transition from a college wide

1753
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 1: receiver these days to the NFL. You need to know

1754
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 1: can this guy learn? Can he learned quickly? Because the

1755
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: Bills need help right now at wide receiver. And I

1756
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: know Sean McDermot addressed some of those fifteen minute interview

1757
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: sessions and what they pull from those as well. And

1758
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: the thing with the receiver position is the responsibilities of

1759
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: cognitively thinking on your feet in a split second in

1760
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 1: the college ranks does not exist anymore in most cases

1761
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: because what happens, and you can watch it on TV

1762
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:49,520
Speaker 1: and see it, receivers lined up wide, turns to the sideline,

1763
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: looks for his signal from whoever signaling him, be it

1764
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: the receivers coach, quarterbacks coach, whoever it is. They're giving

1765
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 1: him a signal, which could be one of one of

1766
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 1: a few things. It could be a you're looking at

1767
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 1: cover three, run this route, or B this is the

1768
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 1: route you're running, ignore the coverage, or see get over

1769
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 1: there and block right. And that's that's how they get

1770
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: their instructions now to a large degree in college football,

1771
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Steve, that's got to be in stark contrast

1772
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: to what you were dealing with in college. Well, yeah,

1773
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 1: that Yeah, it's difficult because the community, the coaches are

1774
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 1: the ones doing the work. Yeah, coach are the ones

1775
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 1: think thinking for these kids. And I'll tell you one

1776
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 1: thing that got to that got them too. That was

1777
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 1: the rules in the NCA They only get them too

1778
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 1: for twenty hours a week, right, so they they're limited

1779
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 1: and the three hours of the game counts is in

1780
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 1: the twenty hours, So they've got to squeeze in a

1781
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: lot of teaching in a short amount of time. And

1782
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 1: you want to teach them on the field, so you

1783
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 1: teach them what they do on the field and the

1784
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: routes and stuff, but you can't teach them concepts and

1785
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: adjustments and film study and all that because there's no

1786
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: time to do it. So they'd have to do it

1787
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: on their own. And I know some college quarterbacks that

1788
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph in last year's draft was a big proponent

1789
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 1: of that. He was like, but he was a graduate student,

1790
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: so he had the extra time to go and crunch

1791
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 1: film and stuff like that. So now what happens as

1792
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 1: talent evaluators being and McDermott in these fifteen minute interview

1793
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: sessions have to find out how the kid was instructed,

1794
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 1: because they'll put the film on there and say, hey,

1795
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: what are you doing on this play? And he's like,

1796
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 1: he told me to run a seven? Who told you? Like?

1797
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 1: Now they've got to find out, okay, who was thinking

1798
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: for him? How much thinking did he have to do

1799
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: on his own and if he didn't do any of

1800
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: that thinking. Now they've got to invest more time in

1801
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 1: that kid if they like him as a physical prospect,

1802
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 1: to say, Kenny learn right, you don't even know if

1803
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: he can learn. What are his learning capabilities? What's his

1804
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,560
Speaker 1: retention level? So now they probably have to bring that

1805
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 1: kid in for a visit to one Bill's Drive in

1806
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: March or April and say I'm gonna put you on

1807
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: the board here. I'm gonna show you three plays and

1808
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna draw up three plays for him, and then

1809
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: they're going to talk to him for another ten minutes

1810
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: about his life, his girlfriend, you know, his favorite restaurant,

1811
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: and then ten minutes later they're gonna come back, Hey,

1812
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 1: let's go through those three plays again. What are you

1813
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 1: doing on this? What are you doing on this? What

1814
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 1: are you doing on that? And then they're going to

1815
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: assess retention level based on that. I mean, those are

1816
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: the steps you have to take now to see if

1817
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,440
Speaker 1: a receiver that you like is even capable of absorbing

1818
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 1: a weekly game plan, a playbook that's this thick and

1819
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: react in a split second on the field on a Sunday.

1820
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 1: That's a lot of extra work for them. Now, running

1821
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: out of time here, but I want to ask you

1822
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: on the concept of receivers. Twitter poll question today, which

1823
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 1: high profile player do you want the Bills to acquire

1824
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: this offseason? We put Antonio Brown on that list and

1825
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 1: it's getting strong support. A week ago, I would have

1826
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 1: said absolutely, no way, I'm staying away from him. But

1827
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 1: you were telling me, actually, you almost changed my mind

1828
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: already about a conversation you had with the Steelers insider

1829
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 1: about Brown and actually what went down with him last

1830
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: year and what type of guy he is. Yeah, I

1831
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 1: was digging through the weeds with some of my Steelers

1832
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,600
Speaker 1: friends and I was trying to get a handle on

1833
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 1: whether Antonio Brown is just a petulant person me guy

1834
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 1: doesn't care about football, just cares about himself in his

1835
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: own image. Or is he a guy that just had

1836
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: an issue and wanted to get out of there and

1837
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: I'm finding that it's the latter. His main issue is

1838
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, who has said a lot of stuff on

1839
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: his radio shows up down in Pittsburgh to kind of

1840
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: chap Antonio Brown anything from saying, well, yeah, I mean

1841
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 1: there was a game I think against Denver where he

1842
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 1: threw a pick late in the game and the target

1843
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 1: on the play was Antonio Brown and it was kind

1844
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: of like that Malcolm Butler play in the Super Bowl,

1845
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: one of those quick hitters, and he basically said on

1846
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: his radio show, well, I throw that thing four more times,

1847
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: I would just throw it to Jutu every time. The

1848
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: next time It's like, are you kidding me? Like, you know,

1849
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:54,480
Speaker 1: Ben a great quarterback at all, but not very diplomatic.

1850
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: And that's not the only insince. There's several others, And

1851
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: I think it's just got to a point where Antonio

1852
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 1: is ready to move on and not play with Ben

1853
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger as his teammate anymore. He knows it's Ben show,

1854
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: so he wants to take his show somewhere else. And

1855
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 1: that's not to be the top Banana necessarily, but I

1856
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: just think he wants he believes there are a greener

1857
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: pastors for him elsewhere. There's too much friction with one guy,

1858
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: and it's a guy that's not going anywhere in Pittsburgh.

1859
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: So and I asked, you know, what's this guy's work

1860
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: ethic like? And Antonio Brown is a guy that has

1861
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: to do more than everybody else on the roster. If

1862
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 1: there's a guy that's going to stay out there on

1863
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: the jugs machine and catch fifty balls, Antonio's gonna stay

1864
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: out there and catch fifty one. I mean, when Drew

1865
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: Rosenhow's his agent, was talking about him holding out last

1866
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 1: year and he needs a new contract, he's not coming back.

1867
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 1: Everybody laughed in Pittsburgh because Antonio Brown's the kind of

1868
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,600
Speaker 1: guy that can't stay away. He has a voracious appetite

1869
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: to be the best, the best guy in the building,

1870
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: the best player on the field, the best receiver in

1871
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: the league. And if you want that on your team.

1872
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 1: That's not to say he's not gonna be a little wacky.

1873
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 1: We know the Facebook stuff he did in locker room

1874
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 1: after you're a playoff win. That's the wacky kind of

1875
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 1: stuff that he might do from time to time. But

1876
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 1: it's not vindictive, it's not destructive to your team. It

1877
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: just might be a little bit of a headache once

1878
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 1: in a while, you got a weigh all. That doesn't

1879
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 1: give me any concern that he's early thirties, thirty one,

1880
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 1: gonna be thirty two. No, because he keeps himself in

1881
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: immaculate shape. He can run for days. Let's not forget this.

1882
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 1: Over these last six seasons where he's led the league

1883
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 1: and receiving yardage, total, touchdowns, all that stuff. He was

1884
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: a punt returner for five of those last six years.

1885
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: They only took him off punt return last year, and

1886
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 1: they had to tell him because he wanted to keep

1887
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 1: doing it. It's just a sign of him always wanting

1888
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 1: to do more, be the best, all of that stuff.

1889
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: So I think I think it's a It's a better

1890
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: match for somebody that needs that kind of player than

1891
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: a lot of people would think better than Odell Beckham.

1892
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 1: I'm I'm on the pro out side of the fence.

1893
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 1: Then Odell Beckham's Hollywood, me me me, you know, yeah,

1894
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: you know where I'm going with this. For a team

1895
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: in desperate need of why receiving help, a team that's

1896
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 1: very concerned about its team culture. I'm talking about the

1897
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Should they spend, Yeah, money to spend. Yeah.

1898
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: Should they be looking at this, Well, they've got to

1899
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 1: invest time, Yeah, and really get to know the person.

1900
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: And if they feel comfortable with all of those things

1901
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 1: that I out, and probably they're gonna have to dig

1902
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 1: even deeper than that. Well, I'm talking about a fifteen

1903
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 1: minute conversation. They're gonna do a lot more than that.

1904
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: If they dig deeper and can check all the boxes

1905
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 1: where they feel comfortable, then yeah, I think you have

1906
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 1: to take a look at it. The cost might be

1907
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 1: too steep. We know Brandon Being doesn't like parting with

1908
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: draft currency, and he would have to part with some

1909
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 1: pretty important draft currency if he did did want to

1910
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: take a swing at that, But you'd certainly feel a

1911
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: gigantic hole and you'd have a guy that you could

1912
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 1: throw the ball to eight to twelve times a game,

1913
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 1: every single week, whether he's covered or not, he can

1914
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: make plays for you. Thanks Brownie. Hey what do you

1915
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 1: got coming up on the website? Which we look for?

1916
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 1: It got quick hits up now based it's a summary

1917
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: of what the highlights of what Being talked about today.

1918
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 1: So if you don't have time to watch the whole

1919
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: video on Buffalo Bills dot Com. You can go there

1920
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: for your drive through window version of it if you

1921
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: don't have fifteen minutes. Really is it? Yeah, well, we

1922
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 1: know how people live these days. And then we've also

1923
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Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna have a feature story on finding the fits,

1924
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 1: what Brandon being and Sean McDermott doing that room and

1925
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 1: how quickly sometimes they decide this guy's not for us. Okay, thanks,

1926
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Speaker 1: you got it. Chris Brown Bills inside a Buffalo Bills

1927
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: dot Com. Steve and I coming back with more one

1928
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: Bill's line from the Combine and Indie. This is Buffalo

1929
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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back to the show, Welcome back to Indie,

1930
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our NFL Combines set up

1931
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 1: here inside the Indiana Convention Center. Chris Brown was fired up.

1932
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 1: I really think that Steelers thing is interesting with Antonio Brown.

1933
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: Stevie's got brownies again. I was right at the front

1934
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: of the line last week saying no, no, don't even

1935
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: go near Antonio Brown now if if that's true, And

1936
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 1: that was a pretty uh closely connected Steelers inside of

1937
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: the Brownie talked too. Yeah, you gotta think about it. Well, yeah,

1938
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: obviously you do. You do your due diligence. You talk

1939
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 1: to him, you say, this can never happen again. You

1940
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 1: can't quit on your team at any point, let alone

1941
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 1: late in the season when you're going for a playoff spot.

1942
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: But he's he's the best receiver in the game. If

1943
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: he's available, you got to think about it. If you're

1944
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, it's a lot of money. Yeah,

1945
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of draft capital. Because he's not

1946
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: a free agent. You gotta trade for him. It's not

1947
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: just the money, it's also the money and draft picks,

1948
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: premium draft picks. Yeah, it's not it's not like a

1949
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 1: five and a six. It's not like a six and

1950
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 1: a seven. It's like a number. It's like a one

1951
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 1: and And the money that's a lot. That's a really

1952
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: lot of that's a lot of money. And I don't

1953
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 1: know that that's the right fit for Button. Now here's

1954
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 1: the thing. This is all I've heard about him too,

1955
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: and I got to echo what Brownie said. The guy

1956
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: works hard, he's a he's a fun, good teammate who

1957
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 1: got treated poorly by why one of his teammates, by

1958
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: Ben and he he didn't want to stand for it.

1959
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 1: He's done and so he called it quits. Calling it

1960
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: quits is a hard thing for people to live with

1961
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Um. You know, Bills fans know it

1962
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 1: all too well. So, Um, I don't know that he'd

1963
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 1: be the right fit in Buffalo. I don't know that

1964
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 1: that much money, even though the Bills have a pile

1965
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 1: of it, you want to throw it at Antonio Brown

1966
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 1: and whatever draft picks you gotta give us, it's a

1967
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: steep price. And he's a great player. Um, and it

1968
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 1: would solve a problem right away, I mean, like done. Yeah,

1969
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 1: but I don't know what the I don't know what

1970
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 1: the you know, the unforeseen consequences would be so well, yeah,

1971
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 1: that's it's interesting to think about it. I'm with you, though,

1972
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with him as a person,

1973
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: as a player or anything like that. I think he's

1974
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 1: a great player and I think he'd help. But it's

1975
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 1: a lot of money and a lot of draft capital. Yeah,

1976
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: something to think about on Another hour to go, and

1977
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna start the next hour with Matt Bowen, former

1978
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 1: Bill Safety now with the NFL matchup on ESPN. He'll

1979
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 1: join us when we come back. One Bill's Live, presented

1980
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: by a lot of health from the Combine and Indie.

1981
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio Buffalo Bill's Radio Network Stories update.

1982
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: The update comes from the NFL Scouting Combine. It's our

1983
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 1: second day here, one more day tomorrow. GM Brandon Bean

1984
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 1: stopped by to visit. We spent a long time with

1985
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 1: him last hour. You'll be able to hear some of

1986
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 1: those comments coming up on our website, Buffalo Bills dot Com.

1987
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 1: A little bit a little later on this afternoon, being

1988
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: touching on a variety of topics, he mentioned that the

1989
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 1: Bills have talked with the agent for defensive line in

1990
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,719
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips in recent weeks. He is approaching free agency

1991
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:48,759
Speaker 1: on March thirteenth. Bean says Phillips could be an important

1992
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 1: piece of Buffalo's defensive line moving forward. On the draft,

1993
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: Bean says he sees a lot of depth a tight end,

1994
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver, and offensive line, perhaps more depth than last year. Again,

1995
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean's entire interview be up on our website, coming

1996
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 1: up in just an hour or two Buffalo Bills dot Com.

1997
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 1: Around the NFL, Jason Witten has decided he's not done

1998
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 1: playing football just yet, retired last May. He spent last

1999
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 1: season on in the broadcast booth with the ESB on

2000
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. But he's going back to the Cowboys

2001
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 1: to play for a sixteenth pro season fifteen years there

2002
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 1: eleven Pro Bowls. Jason Witten coming back to play in

2003
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 1: the National Football League. Here at the Combine, most of

2004
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:25,600
Speaker 1: the attention was focused on the measurements for quarterbacks, in

2005
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 1: particular Kyler Murray, the Oklahoma quarterback. He waited at two

2006
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 1: hundred and seven pounds. Today Hyke five ten and one

2007
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 1: eighth inches hand size and nine and a half inches

2008
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 1: measures up pretty well, according to most observers here at

2009
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 1: the Combine, Jets could be open for business well ahead

2010
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:41,560
Speaker 1: of the draft. At the end of April. They have

2011
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 1: the third overall pick, but reportedly, according to Mike mccagnon,

2012
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 1: the team is willing to entertain scenarios to let them

2013
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 1: move down, perhaps even with the trade with the Crosstown

2014
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: New York Giants. Buffalo Sabers back at practice today, They've

2015
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,759
Speaker 1: got a home game tomorrow night against the Pittsburgh Penguins.

2016
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 1: Savers back to back games this weekend. After Pittsburgh, they

2017
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 1: right to Toronto for a game Saturday against the Maple Leafs.

2018
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:05,640
Speaker 1: The Sabers right now eight points behind Pittsburgh for the

2019
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,600
Speaker 1: second wild card spot in the Stanley Cup playoffs. And

2020
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: that's the update from the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. Oh,

2021
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 1: a good time of Steve Plasterer, Busto fust Tostown at

2022
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: all time. Welcome back. We're at the NFL Scouting Combine

2023
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 1: at Indie. I'm Chot Murphy. That's Steve Tasker and joining

2024
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 1: us right now, former Buffalovill's safety two thousand and six season,

2025
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 1: seven seasons in the National Football League playing safety. Right now,

2026
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:47,640
Speaker 1: I see him on NFL Matchup on ESPN, having to

2027
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 1: have Matt bow and here, Matt, good to see you.

2028
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: I love running in the year at the combine every year.

2029
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 1: Great to see you again, and we do every year

2030
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 1: we see each other's combine. This is This is one

2031
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: of my favorite events in the NFL calendar because one

2032
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: going through the combine myself and knowing the grind these

2033
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 1: players are going through. I really value it. I do,

2034
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 1: and I know there's an always in discussion year in

2035
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 1: a year out to the numbers matter, to the measurements matter.

2036
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: I think they do, because I think it's all tests.

2037
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 1: It's a job interview. How can you perform after four

2038
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 1: days of physical and mental testing and then go out

2039
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 1: and test on the field. And there's so many different

2040
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 1: key aspects from the medical to the interviews, to the

2041
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 1: written exams, and ultimately the physical exam. When you get

2042
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 1: out and run the fort you do the vertical jump.

2043
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 1: I think it's a valuable part of the process. Talked

2044
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: a little bit about what these guys go through. I mean,

2045
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 1: they do show up and they've got to get a physical.

2046
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 1: And the physical isn't just isn't just like blood pressure

2047
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 1: and temperature. I mean they go they ekg the whole

2048
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 1: nine yards, They do a lot of stuff, and then

2049
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,839
Speaker 1: they go through the How hard is it to perform

2050
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: on the field, even in a forty yard dash, even

2051
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 1: in this bench press thing that's going on behind us

2052
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 1: right now? How hard is it to do your best

2053
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: when you've got all this other stuff that they throw

2054
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 1: at you beforehand. I'll tell you what. When I got

2055
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 1: done back to in the DBS right on Tuesday, I

2056
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 1: felt like I played a game that drained, you know,

2057
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 1: and you wake up the next morning, even that later

2058
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 1: that day when I was getting back on the plane

2059
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 1: and go to Iowa City. You're you feel like you've

2060
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 1: been hit a little bit, like you just went through

2061
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 1: four chords of the football game. Because I think it's

2062
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 1: the emotional swings of being here. You're gonna be nervous,

2063
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 1: you know. I remember being here, you know, and I

2064
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 1: was a late round draft pick. And you see this

2065
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 1: is in two thousand. You see Jimmy Johnson and Bill

2066
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 1: Cotary like, well, yeah, this is real. Yeah. You know,

2067
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 1: you're sitting down for an interview with these guys and

2068
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 1: you're nervous, you know, And it's just like any job interview,

2069
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 1: but this one is extended and a lot of people

2070
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 1: are watching. And you bring up a great point about

2071
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 1: the medical You go through thirty two team doctors, every

2072
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 1: single one of them meets with you, and if you

2073
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 1: had any injury history, either they're gonna send you off

2074
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,640
Speaker 1: for MRIs or X ray. So that's another aspect of this.

2075
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 1: And you really have to check a lot of boxes.

2076
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 1: There's a player you have to know, even the top

2077
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: five get picks. You're not gonna check every box, but

2078
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 1: can you come out here and perform. That's why I

2079
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 1: said I valued it because it is ultimately a huge

2080
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 1: test just to have a chance to be in the league.

2081
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: Man Bowing is our guest NFL Matchup on ESPN every

2082
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 1: weekend during the regular season, the longest running football show

2083
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 1: on television thirty five years. That's pretty cool. It's a

2084
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: great show. I told you yesterday, I just have trouble

2085
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 1: finding it. I wish they would give it a spot

2086
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 1: and keep it there. But it's a great show. We

2087
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 1: talked to great co Sell every week, and you are

2088
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 1: right in your element on that show because what you do,

2089
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 1: it seems to me what you do best as well

2090
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 1: as anybody, is breakdown film, diagram film. You do that

2091
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 1: all week on that show or every week on that Yeah,

2092
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 1: well I appreciate that. And you know, that's how I

2093
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:29,719
Speaker 1: was as a player. You know, I made my living

2094
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:33,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL covering kicks, playing gunner, playing person protector,

2095
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:36,560
Speaker 1: and when I did play safety, I had some limitations

2096
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:38,879
Speaker 1: as a player. So for me, it was the notebook.

2097
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 1: That's what got me to make the team every year

2098
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 1: for seven years in the league and allow me to

2099
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 1: stay in the league. So basic what I've done is

2100
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 1: I've taken that and use it for NFL Matchup. And

2101
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, Greg co Seal is awesome. Greg is such

2102
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 1: a smart mind and so professionally. He's made me so

2103
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 1: comfortable on that show and working with Salpal it's a

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Speaker 1: great combination. And we do a great job during the

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Speaker 1: week with our Guys NFL matchup of picking the plays,

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Speaker 1: breaking down the film, trying to put out a product

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Speaker 1: that is gonna give fans what they want, but also

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Speaker 1: a teaching tool. Yeah, right, and I think that's the

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Speaker 1: best part about as a teaching tool. What's the most

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Speaker 1: intriguing part this week? What are you looking for? And

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Speaker 1: you come in here, I know you've got a list

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Speaker 1: of the names you can call. You talk to these guys,

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Speaker 1: you talk about him, You're kind of prepped. Who are

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Speaker 1: you looking for this week? You want to get your

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Speaker 1: eyes on and say, all right, I want to see

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Speaker 1: this guy in person. Well, I mean, obviously I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna point towards the DB's first. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: my area of expertise, I guess. But you know, I

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Speaker 1: love seeing the quarterbacks throw. I do. I love seeing

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks thrill because I think they should perform well here,

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Speaker 1: but I like to see just their mannerisms, how they

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Speaker 1: interact with the other players. I think it's a great thing.

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Speaker 1: You can see at the Senior Bowl too. How do

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01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 1: they work with players at the Senior Bowl. How quickly

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01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 1: can they pick up the chemistry of a wide receiver

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01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 1: runner to comeback versus running a square in a fifteen yards?

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Speaker 1: Obviously the testing is great. You know, speed sales a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver and defensive back. We all know that, but

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Speaker 1: it doesn't tell the ultimate story. I always tell people,

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Speaker 1: if you're a safety and you run a four to six,

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01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 1: you can still play like a four or four guy.

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Speaker 1: If you play with your eyes, you would take the

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Speaker 1: English the football. If you understand formations in personnel, down

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Speaker 1: and distance, you're gonna play fast and then the guy

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Speaker 1: who actually did run a four, four or five. So

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Speaker 1: I think you all have to take this stuff and

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Speaker 1: make it a part of the puzzle, okay, because ultimately

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Speaker 1: you're you're gonna go back and you're gonna turn on

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Speaker 1: that game film. You're gonna go talk to the college

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Speaker 1: weight coach is basically assistant head coach. In college, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to their position coach. If you can talk

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Speaker 1: to the high school coach, you talk to their high

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Speaker 1: school coach and find out what type of character, what

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Speaker 1: type of football character have, and leadership skills they have,

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01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,639
Speaker 1: which is another part of it. But all ultimately I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you what I'm trying to say is it goes

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Speaker 1: back what you put on film and some of the

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Speaker 1: best coaches I've always played for. You know, we've talked

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Speaker 1: about Greg Williams for us to be the head coach

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Greg, you us always say this your film.

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Speaker 1: Whenever you play, you're autographing your resume, So that film

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01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 1: is your resume. That's what you're putting out there for

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01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 1: everyone to see. The point you make about a safety

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01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 1: candidate running the four six but can play like he's

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Speaker 1: a four or four How if you were a team,

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01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 1: if you were in a position to be a personnel guy,

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01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 1: how would you measure that? How would you find that?

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Speaker 1: How would you see that? Well? I think you look

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Speaker 1: at how fast he plays on film, because we've all

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01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 1: seen guys that run low four four, and you don't

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Speaker 1: see it on the film. You know, you might see

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01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 1: a LA for a wide receiver, you might see it

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01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 1: on a nine route or a deep ball, but you

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01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 1: don't see it in a transitions. You don't see the

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Speaker 1: immediate verse of the field. You don't see the change

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Speaker 1: of direction ability what you have there is just a

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01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 1: stopwatch time where player might not be that productive. You know.

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Speaker 1: If I'm a scout and I have a safety that

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Speaker 1: I really like, I wanted to run a four to six,

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Speaker 1: so it falls to be right, you know. So it's

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Speaker 1: all part of the process. But that's why these times,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I played with guys in the league

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Speaker 1: and Steve I'm sure the same way that didn't test

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Speaker 1: well that were phenomenal football players. ALTI, you gotta put

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Speaker 1: that helmet on those pads on the play. Well, so

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Speaker 1: we're sitting here on one Bills Live. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: all the guys that the Bills are not in the

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Speaker 1: quarterback derby this year. They're they're kind of a step

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Speaker 1: beyond that. They're kind of trying to put pieces around

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Speaker 1: this young quarterback they've gotten. They're starting at their offensive

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Speaker 1: line and then free agent markets on the cusps. What

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Speaker 1: do you see in the free agent market or at

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Speaker 1: this draft and how those two things mesh at the

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Speaker 1: offensive line, Well, if you're looking we'll start with the draft.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking at the offensive line, I love Jonah

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Speaker 1: Williams from Alabama I do. And there's already been part

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Speaker 1: of that measurables here. I think his arms were thirty

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Speaker 1: three and five ace and some people canna say, well,

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01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 1: that's doesn't meet the requirements of an offensive tackleman. Turn

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Speaker 1: on the film. He is nasty at the point of

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Speaker 1: the time. He's a guy I would love the coach

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Speaker 1: and see if that's always look at what guy would

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01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 1: I love the coach? What guy would I love to

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Speaker 1: have in that offensive line room? And Jonah Williams is

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Speaker 1: the guy coached by Nick Sabans coaching staff, played in

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Speaker 1: a bunch of games, played in high level games, high

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Speaker 1: level competition on the national stage and the SEC conference.

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Speaker 1: He will come off the ball and move you off

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Speaker 1: the football. He's got the footwork to kick back and slide.

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Speaker 1: I think he could play tackle in the NFL. That's

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Speaker 1: one of the guys right there. I wrote down a

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Speaker 1: couple of the free agents. Trent Brown who played for

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots, and he had a great run

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. He would turn on the film in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs at New England Patriots and you watch him

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01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 1: run either power or zone run. And Trent Brown would

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Speaker 1: move that side of the offensive line in Washington, Doll

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Speaker 1: Donovan Smith from Tampas and be a free agent. Juwan

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Speaker 1: James in the Miami Dolphins. I think he had a

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Speaker 1: good year on film. Darryl Williams Carolina Panthers is going

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01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:11,839
Speaker 1: to be a free agent. You look inside Roger Staffield

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01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 1: to the Los Angeles Rams, He's gonna be a free agent.

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Speaker 1: So depending on your cash phase, there's gonna be opportunity

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01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 1: where you could Steve go into the first round already

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01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 1: having signed a free agent and then go ahead and

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01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 1: go back to the offensive line again and say, look,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go all down on this offensive front, and

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Speaker 1: we believe that there's there's a deeper class at wide receiver.

2219
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 1: We can get some talent at wide receiver later in

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Speaker 1: the draft, but we want to do is build that

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Speaker 1: offensive front in front of Josh. We're with Matt Bowen

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Speaker 1: NFL matchup on ESPN A Matt. So we've talked about

2223
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Speaker 1: old lineman receivers are a need position for the Buffalo Bills,

2224
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: and you wrote about one of them, DK Metcalf from

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01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 1: Ole miss who's might be a good fit for a

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Speaker 1: quarterback like Josh. Yeah. Rare combination of I don't know

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Speaker 1: what what he measured in that today, but what he

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Speaker 1: was listed at what you see on film was six

2229
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,600
Speaker 1: four two thirty. They can move, yeah, and Steve, you

2230
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 1: know that is a rare combination of size and speed

2231
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:09,680
Speaker 1: that checks every box. And I remember going back and

2232
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 1: watching this film, and you know, we have our computer

2233
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Speaker 1: from NFL matchup and you can pick anything you want,

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Speaker 1: third and two to six receptions, deep ball receptions, whatever

2235
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:20,759
Speaker 1: it may be. And I turned on the film against

2236
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Speaker 1: Alabama and he's against an Alabama corner who's coached by

2237
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 1: Nick Saban and the corner tries to jam him. He

2238
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:30,639
Speaker 1: beats the jam and the separation is immediate, immediate, huge

2239
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 1: catch Radiers. And that's what my thinking again from a

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Speaker 1: coaching perspective here, working with Josh and giving his arm talent,

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Speaker 1: given his ability to push the ball down the field,

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01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 1: and you're gonna see more man coverage. So when you

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01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 1: have man coverage, you want a receiver that's got that

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01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 1: deep ball speed, got the size of the point of attack,

2245
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 1: to be physical to catch upoint. But all says the

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01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 1: catch radiers, And you know even the best quarterbacks turned

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01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 1: perfect every time you go outside your frame and make

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Speaker 1: a play. I think DK Metcalf could be one of

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Speaker 1: those guys, and I think his stock is really gonna

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Speaker 1: rise because I expected the test. Well, how much do

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Speaker 1: you put into the history of injuries that some of

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01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 1: these guys come in, Like DK is a DK is

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01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,600
Speaker 1: a candidate for that. He's had some knicks and some

2254
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 1: of these guys have a history of it. And you

2255
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 1: can say, well, guys, how do you know the guys

2256
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 1: got stepped on, he got hurt? Well, what what kind

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01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,559
Speaker 1: of value to put on that? Or I think that great.

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01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 1: I think that is all based on your relationship with

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01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 1: your training staff and your team doctors and what you

2260
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 1: do here. Okay, so that's why you go to these medicals,

2261
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 1: and if you're a team doctor and you and you're

2262
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 1: a head trainer, if they sign off on him and

2263
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 1: say he's clear to play, he's ready to play. He

2264
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 1: doesn't have an injury that is going to show up

2265
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 1: later down the line. Whether that you know, some guys

2266
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 1: come into the league and they have carliog issues are

2267
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:41,560
Speaker 1: ready with their knees, Well, it's not gonna gain better, right, So,

2268
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 1: but there's injuries that you think that you can check

2269
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,679
Speaker 1: off and say he is healthy enough to play. It's

2270
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 1: not going to have an impact on his career five

2271
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:51,599
Speaker 1: or ten years down the road, then you can invest

2272
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: in that. Hey, it is a defense that is said

2273
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 1: to be pretty strong or is a sorry a combine,

2274
01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 1: and it said to be pretty strong defensively, and some

2275
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 1: very interesting defensive line prospects. You highlighted one of them

2276
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 1: on Twitter today, Quinnon Williams from Alabama. What do you

2277
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 1: see from him? Just the best way I can I

2278
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 1: can say about him is he's an impact guy. And

2279
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 1: what I mean by an impact guy is that someone

2280
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 1: that makes so many plays but also creates chaos for

2281
01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 1: his other teammates to make plays. You'll watch him against Oklahoma.

2282
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 1: He doesn't make every play, but he's living in the

2283
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 1: backfield and now his linebackers can run free to the football.

2284
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 1: Now his defensive ends can crash inside. And you pull

2285
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 1: up his negative plays on our computers at NFL matchup

2286
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 1: tackles for losses and sex. It fills up the page

2287
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Speaker 1: and he's take your picking what you want to watch. Yeah,

2288
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 1: he's explosive off the football. He's got good hands at

2289
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 1: the point of attack. Again, coach by Nick Saban, So

2290
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 1: the technique is going to be there, and he's young,

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01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, this was his first year as a full

2292
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 1: time starter, belief, But the amount of production he had

2293
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 1: and the speed he gets off the ball and the

2294
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 1: things he can do with his hands and create leverage

2295
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 1: and be strong at the point of attack. You know,

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01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 1: I would be so prize if he's there at night.

2297
01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: But if he is, hey, that's the pick all day.

2298
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 1: Could this guy at Oliver be there at night? I

2299
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:07,600
Speaker 1: believe he will be at night. Eight months ago he

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01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 1: would not have been a no. And at Oliver's interesting

2301
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 1: because he doesn't have He was drawing comps to Aaron Donald,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I think that's unfair for college players

2303
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 1: to draw comps to Aaron Donald. But he doesn't have

2304
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 1: the same amount of pass rush ability that Williams has

2305
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 1: from Alabama. Doesn't mean he can't get there, And of

2306
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 1: course he can get there with development and pro coaching

2307
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 1: and experience at the NFL level, But with him, you're

2308
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 1: not gonna find a defensive tackle that's gonna push up

2309
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 1: the field and then run down a bubble screen. That's

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01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 1: what he does. His effort level is outstanding, outstanding. His

2311
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 1: burst off the football is great, his hands, his power

2312
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 1: at the point of attack. It's just the past rushing ability.

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01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:48,479
Speaker 1: And I think that's key because right now you look

2314
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 1: with the game that's kind of shifting and it's become

2315
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 1: more quick passing, more play action, more quarterback in the pocket.

2316
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: So to say, those interior pass rochers have so much

2317
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 1: value right now. And everyone looks at what with the

2318
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:02,640
Speaker 1: Rams and Aaron Donald what he can do and how

2319
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 1: he can take over a game. But those two players

2320
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 1: right there, Williams and Oliver can wreck things in the

2321
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 1: middle of the field. There's another position in this draft

2322
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: that seems to be a little bit deeper than recent drafts,

2323
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 1: and that's tight end. The Bills have one on their roster.

2324
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 1: How quality, what's the top tight end in this combine?

2325
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean, what can he look for? How high could

2326
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 1: he possibly be taken? And how deep is it? What

2327
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 1: does it And when they say it's deep, how many

2328
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 1: guys does that mean? Well, I think there's possibly three

2329
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 1: first rounders. Okay, okay, because you have no no fan

2330
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 1: from Iowa. T J. Hockinson from Iowa, and IRV Smith

2331
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:40,880
Speaker 1: from Alabama and I T. J. Hawkinson. Now I'm in Iowa, lum,

2332
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna get a little excited. But you know

2333
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 1: t J. Hawkinson plays like George Kittle from San Francisco

2334
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 1: forty Niners and that he's a three down player. He's

2335
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:50,640
Speaker 1: someone that can play in line on the line of

2336
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 1: scrimmage and block down or reach block. He's someone that

2337
01:46:53,479 --> 01:46:55,559
Speaker 1: can flex from the formation. He's also someone that can

2338
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 1: run routes in the middle of the field. I'm interous

2339
01:46:58,240 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 1: to see what his testing numbers are, but I think

2340
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 1: he's athletic enough based on his film, and he is

2341
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 1: straight nasty at the point of attack, whether it's running

2342
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 1: through tackles or blocking in the run game. I think

2343
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:10,679
Speaker 1: he's a tone setter for your team because I always

2344
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 1: look at even though we're talking spread offenses. In the

2345
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 1: future of football, the tight end is still, in my opinion,

2346
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 1: should be the extension of the offensive line as well,

2347
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 1: and that's what they teach at Iowan or Kirk ference.

2348
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 1: Now no offans a little different. Now, that doesn't mean

2349
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 1: a no of fan can't play in line. He can.

2350
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 1: But his athletic measurables I think are gonna jump off

2351
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 1: the chart here in Indianapolis because he is more of

2352
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 1: that slot tight end that can flex from the formation

2353
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:38,719
Speaker 1: create those matchups will be great inside the red area

2354
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: and on third and seven to ten situations where he

2355
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 1: can create leverage and us his catch raders and IRV

2356
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:46,800
Speaker 1: Smith from Alabama. I really like IRV Smith. I really do.

2357
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 1: I get another guy can block in line because of

2358
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 1: the Bama Pro running style attack, but he runs the

2359
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 1: entire route tree. He'll run deep corner routsy run, seem

2360
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 1: roullity run, shallow crossers, quick outs. He does a lot

2361
01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 1: for that offense. And I think based on his by

2362
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,639
Speaker 1: type and the physicality he brings to the game, he's

2363
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 1: a guy who will play eight to ten years in

2364
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 1: the league. He stays healthy. Are these guys legitimate first

2365
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 1: round candidates? First half of the first round? Even I

2366
01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:12,680
Speaker 1: think Hockington is legit top fifteen, I think he is,

2367
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:14,800
Speaker 1: and I think you talk fant and nerves Smith. I

2368
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 1: think that their second half of the first round and

2369
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 1: they could slip into the second round. I mean that happens.

2370
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 1: We see it happen all the time. You follow the league,

2371
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,880
Speaker 1: obviously with when you work with the NFL matchup on

2372
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:25,679
Speaker 1: the ESPN, but just an overview of the Buffalo Bills,

2373
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 1: if you would what they need where they're at and

2374
01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 1: how far away they are from being contenders. I mean

2375
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:32,080
Speaker 1: we've been waiting for a while. We talked off there.

2376
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:34,360
Speaker 1: I love the secondary, Yeah, I love the secondary. You know,

2377
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 1: you have another Hawkeye and Micah Hyde. Who you know.

2378
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 1: Micah's versatility, Michael's leadership is professionalism off the field. Micah

2379
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 1: Hyde is a true pro. Yeah, And I think that's

2380
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 1: the best way you can start. I think it's the

2381
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,640
Speaker 1: best compliment you can get outside of being tough, and

2382
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 1: Mica is tough as well. Employer at safety. Turdevious White,

2383
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:53,559
Speaker 1: Turdevious White, I mean I remember watching Tredevious White at

2384
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:55,800
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and he didn't have the hype of

2385
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:57,639
Speaker 1: some of the top tier corner Do you watched Turdevious

2386
01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 1: White and drill as you say, one, this young man's

2387
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 1: been a coach extreme way well and you understand that

2388
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:06,640
Speaker 1: come from LSU because of his technique, but his competitiveness,

2389
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 1: the way he competes, And that's the first thing I

2390
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:12,640
Speaker 1: look for, especially at the cornerback position is can they

2391
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 1: playoff man? Can they play press? I get all that.

2392
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 1: Can they compete? I want guys to compete. I want

2393
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:19,720
Speaker 1: physical guys that compete in the secondary. We don't. We

2394
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:22,640
Speaker 1: have lost the idea. And well you'll hear about all

2395
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 1: week in this draft process. Do they have ball skills?

2396
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 1: They have rangs, Johona sufscreen. Are they gonna hit? I

2397
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 1: think gonna be physical? Can you still intimidate and dictate

2398
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 1: the flow of the game from the secondary, because if

2399
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 1: you do that, if you dictate the flow of the

2400
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 1: game from the secondary, you're gonna win a lot of

2401
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:40,640
Speaker 1: football games. Um. The other guy in that secondary we

2402
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 1: talked about a little bit off the year was Leby Wallace,

2403
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 1: the undrafted Rickie free agent corner who wound up starting

2404
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 1: the last half dozen games. He came out of nowhere.

2405
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 1: But you noticed him before, I guess right last I was.

2406
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 1: I do work for the SEC network at ESPN during

2407
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 1: the draft process, and I remember watching film on Levi

2408
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 1: because he was targeted a lot. He was targeted a

2409
01:49:57,960 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 1: lot in college, but he made a lot of plays.

2410
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 1: He was always around the football. And again he doesn't

2411
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:07,680
Speaker 1: have the elite measurables in terms of you know, with

2412
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 1: being a guy they'll like to use his hand. Yeah,

2413
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a huge train. He does, Yeah, but

2414
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:14,680
Speaker 1: that's who he is Canny get bigger. Yeah, he'll get

2415
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:16,759
Speaker 1: bigger as he as he grows as a professional athlete.

2416
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 1: But that's really who he is. And again that's why

2417
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:21,720
Speaker 1: we were talking about someone who competes that was all

2418
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 1: over Schollege show because he was target a lot and

2419
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 1: he was putting the adverse situations and responding you messed.

2420
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 1: You mentioned also one of the things that he kind

2421
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 1: of gets lost in the show. He had ten guys

2422
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 1: off his team when he came out drafted ahead of him,

2423
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 1: right yeah, and so you know he's like, well, how

2424
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 1: many guys you gonna take? You kind of get lost

2425
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 1: in the shuffle when there's that many guys who teams

2426
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 1: are conversing about and they say, oh, by the way,

2427
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 1: we got this other guy, Leviy Wallace, and there's like,

2428
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 1: well listen that you know right right, it happened, Sure

2429
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:49,640
Speaker 1: it does, and this doesn't happened again. This year at

2430
01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:52,560
Speaker 1: Alabama they're gonna have eight nine guys drafted and the

2431
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 1: guys that they'll be the tenth, eleventh, and twelfth guy

2432
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 1: that'll also play. Look at Foster, Yeah, look at Foster. Hey.

2433
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:01,920
Speaker 1: Speaking of Pete competitors, you know who we talk about

2434
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:04,759
Speaker 1: a lot is as a great competitor, maybe as strongest

2435
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 1: suit as Josh Allen you saw him in his first year.

2436
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 1: I still maintained that his competitive nature, his fire is

2437
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 1: among the many essets he has that might be number

2438
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 1: one on my list. I would tell you this, if

2439
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm that locker room as a special team as player,

2440
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 1: a defensive guy, that sells to me. Oh sure, that's

2441
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 1: the first thing I look for, you know, the numbers

2442
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and Steve. You know, listen, players

2443
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:29,720
Speaker 1: look more at your leadership. And it doesn't have to

2444
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 1: be what you say, it's it's what you do and

2445
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:34,800
Speaker 1: how you run the football teams. Everyone knows you're a quarterback.

2446
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:36,640
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter we're talking Friday nights in high school or

2447
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:39,439
Speaker 1: the program in Sundays. You're gonna be considered a leader

2448
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: when you walk in there. Everyone's always looked to you.

2449
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 1: And that stuff sells during the game. That stuff sells

2450
01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 1: during the game. It sells. And obviously I don't get

2451
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 1: to see Josh practice, but I'm telling you it will

2452
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 1: sell in practice, it will sell in the weight room.

2453
01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 1: Everyone will always be watching him. If he has the

2454
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 1: energy level of the leadership there, it's going to work,

2455
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:57,080
Speaker 1: particularly when you get on the game. And one of

2456
01:51:57,120 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 1: his first games was that signature played when he hurt

2457
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 1: hurdled linebacker understanding and you know what it's like. I mean,

2458
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 1: I stood on the sidelines for thirteen years watching good,

2459
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 1: really good guys play when they are willing to do

2460
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 1: something that's physically uncomfortable, or take a risk, or put

2461
01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:13,680
Speaker 1: themselves in harm's way or you know, throw themselves in

2462
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 1: front of the chariot to win for the rest of us.

2463
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:19,760
Speaker 1: I kind of got to jump on board with it,

2464
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 1: and I gotta all do that too. Then if protect

2465
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 1: if it's a quarterback, if one of your great players

2466
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 1: does that, you're willing to do the same. And that

2467
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,560
Speaker 1: when you've got a whole roster forty five guys on

2468
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,160
Speaker 1: a game that it's willing to do that, they're you're

2469
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:33,280
Speaker 1: hard to beat. And if it starts with a guy

2470
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,680
Speaker 1: like your quarterback, and we saw it from Josh, that

2471
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 1: says a lot about what the rest of the roster

2472
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: is going to expect to themselves. And it's going to

2473
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:44,720
Speaker 1: make them practice at a different temple. Right to excuse me,

2474
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 1: prepared differently or be more prepared. And you up a

2475
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 1: great point. I played two years in Green Bay with

2476
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 1: five right, and you saw it every Sunday from FARV.

2477
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 1: You saw Five go out there banged up and hurting

2478
01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:57,760
Speaker 1: and still go out there and form at a high

2479
01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 1: level of what he did in the field. You know,

2480
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:01,560
Speaker 1: I was saying off there, I went through some of

2481
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:04,400
Speaker 1: Josh's plus fifteen yard throws before he came down here

2482
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 1: on the film. I still go back to the game

2483
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 1: at Miami. Some of the throws he made that game, Yeah,

2484
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 1: that is high level stuff. Yeah, he wouldn't get a

2485
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 1: lot of help from them, but he made some plays

2486
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,719
Speaker 1: and the game. Man. Obviously he has gone beyond flashing

2487
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:20,720
Speaker 1: his athletics. And anyone's watched the NFL football season this

2488
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 1: past year knows that Josh is an athlete, and he's

2489
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 1: a rare athlete at that size. But what he can

2490
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 1: do throwing the football, that's all gonna be part of

2491
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 1: his growing process and getting the players around him. You

2492
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 1: start to do that, and you're gonna see his growth

2493
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:36,559
Speaker 1: level take off. Matt Bowen from ESPN The NFL Matchup

2494
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 1: on the ESPN. Matt is also an accomplished high school

2495
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:43,439
Speaker 1: football coach defensive backfield coach for I see Catholic Prep

2496
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 1: High School outside Chicago. Three time Illinois state champions, right,

2497
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 1: three in a row, you've won regulation. Yeah, yeah, it's

2498
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:52,840
Speaker 1: been an awesome ride. But tell me, he's saying, awesome ride.

2499
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:54,599
Speaker 1: You have an awesome ride every weekend when you're working

2500
01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 1: in what Cherry Hill, New Jersey doing the ESPN show

2501
01:53:57,600 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 1: on Fridays, and then you get to your games. How

2502
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 1: does that happen again? That's that's even more of a

2503
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 1: wild ride. So that says, I do the show and

2504
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:10,400
Speaker 1: then I head back to the Philadelphia Airport and that's Friday.

2505
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 1: You do the show? Yeah, Friday morning, Oh, Friday morning, Okay,

2506
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 1: head back to the Philadelphia Airport. And then I landed

2507
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:18,559
Speaker 1: at Old Hair and you know, flying from philiate Old Hair,

2508
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:21,599
Speaker 1: that means you're never on time, right, never on time?

2509
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 1: So I get there and I take an uber right

2510
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 1: to the stadium. So we're my coaching gear on the plane.

2511
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:28,599
Speaker 1: I changed the NFL matchup into my icy Catholic gear

2512
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 1: and getting the plane and takeing uber to the stadium

2513
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 1: and throw a headset on and go that same day,

2514
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 1: same day day, the same night. That's great, miss games

2515
01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:41,720
Speaker 1: or anything or no, you got this year? I did

2516
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 1: miss one because we we had thunderstorms earlier to the

2517
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:48,320
Speaker 1: game that kicked up in the airlines go ahead, but uh,

2518
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 1: it is wild. But Friday night, after the game's over,

2519
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:56,400
Speaker 1: you're ga ga, But it's fun. High school football is Yeah,

2520
01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 1: I still say it. Friday nights are special. Yeah. Anywhere

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01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 1: you play, whether you're in Buffalo, New York, Chicago, down

2522
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 1: in Texas, it doesn't matter. Every school has their own pride,

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01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:09,800
Speaker 1: their own atmosphere. And I love high school football. Mat

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01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 1: Thanks for this. It's great to see you again. We'll

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01:55:11,960 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 1: see you down the road. Thank you. Matt Bow and

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01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 1: our guest. NFL Matchup on ESPN, the longest running football

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01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 1: show on television. Also former Bills, a safety seven years

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01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:22,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He joined us here where One Bills Live,

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01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 1: presented by Collada Health, from the NFL Scouting Combine an

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01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 1: Indie And this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Well, welcome back.

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01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:42,760
Speaker 1: It is John Murphy Steve Tasker. We're coming to you

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01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:46,720
Speaker 1: from the UH scouting Combine at Indianapolis. It finally feels

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01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 1: like a combine, doesn't it, With a bench prescot right

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01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:51,200
Speaker 1: behind us. Yeah, they're they're going crazy over there. It's

2535
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 1: It's fun though too, because we every I've told you that,

2536
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 1: we get to these things early in the week and

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01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of quiet, you know, like yesterday they were

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01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 1: all getting physicals. Nobody was here, you know, it's just

2539
01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:04,040
Speaker 1: the media guys us in radio row. And then all

2540
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 1: of a sudden, everything shifts gears. You know, they got

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01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:10,320
Speaker 1: people screaming behind us, they got guys on stage doing

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01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 1: bench press, they got the Lombardi Trophy, people getting pictures

2543
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 1: with it, you know, fans coming right in here, strolling around.

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01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, and it's uh, you know, it just shifts gears,

2545
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, this it becomes an event

2546
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:26,880
Speaker 1: instead of just this place we're doing the show from. Yeah,

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01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:28,880
Speaker 1: so what you hear. The noise you hear is the

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01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 1: bench press, which started up about about a half hour

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01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 1: or so ago, and we're into the offensive line part

2550
01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 1: of the bench press testing and offensive lineman numbered alphabetically,

2551
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 1: come through one at the time and see how many

2552
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:42,120
Speaker 1: times they can put it up right, two hundred and

2553
01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:44,400
Speaker 1: twenty five pounds, how many times? Thirty three? I think

2554
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:47,440
Speaker 1: there's a record somewhere in then it's pretty class. Saw

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01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 1: a guy the guy just did twenty eight who I

2556
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 1: don't know what that who that is that's going out

2557
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:56,680
Speaker 1: and dude with that arm sleeve tattoos, you'll hear some

2558
01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:58,400
Speaker 1: of that noise. As we moved through the show, the

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01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 1: final half hour of the show and ready for tomorrow show.

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01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 1: We were into our buddy Lorenzo Alexander here a little

2561
01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 1: bit ago and he's gonna be on the show with

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01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:08,080
Speaker 1: us tomorrow. Lorenzo of course with the what do we

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01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 1: do on Fridays? What do we call it? Yeah, well

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01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:14,560
Speaker 1: tomorrow it's Friday, Lorenzo's day. He'll be with us. Uh, tomorrow.

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01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:16,480
Speaker 1: We've had a good show today already. Matt Bowen was

2566
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:20,000
Speaker 1: was outstanding. Um. I think he's one of the perfect

2567
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 1: guests for our for our show and our and our

2568
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:25,360
Speaker 1: listeners and viewers, Steve, because he's he's analytical. I mean,

2569
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 1: he's not just spitting out the stuff about NFL players

2570
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 1: and he seemed look at and as a former player,

2571
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 1: he kind of gets into the stuff that makes a

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01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:35,400
Speaker 1: good player good and a bad player not so good,

2573
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 1: or our talented player not so good. You know, this

2574
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 1: guy's nasty at the point of attack. This guy, you know,

2575
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 1: he's he's mean. You know that kind of those kind

2576
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 1: of adjectives you don't get through. They don't get thrown

2577
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 1: around very much by by people that haven't played right

2578
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 1: because they don't know what they're looking at. And when

2579
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:54,040
Speaker 1: you get a guy who's got an attitude and let

2580
01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:58,440
Speaker 1: me attitude's contagious, good and bad, you know. Uh. And

2581
01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:00,840
Speaker 1: when you've got a bunch of guys with great attitudes

2582
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:04,400
Speaker 1: who are aggressive and they like what they do, you're

2583
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:07,440
Speaker 1: it becomes the personality of your team and you become

2584
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 1: exponentially better. It's part of you know what people poo

2585
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 1: poo is culture, but that it's huge. It makes a

2586
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 1: big difference on an individual basis and certainly collectively can

2587
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 1: make an enormous difference. We think Matt for joining us

2588
01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 1: and providing that insight. As he walked away a minute ago,

2589
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:24,280
Speaker 1: he said, hey, let's do this again after the draft.

2590
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 1: He'll have some thoughts after the draft, so we'll definitely

2591
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 1: get him on. Hey our Twitter poll today, we've kind

2592
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 1: of we haven't tended to it well, I don't feel

2593
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 1: but we can revisit, which big name player do you

2594
01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 1: want to see the Bills acquire this soft season? Chris

2595
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:38,360
Speaker 1: Brown's comments about Antonio Brown got me thinking. I believe

2596
01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 1: that's where the where the Twitter poll originated. Jay and

2597
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 1: I had a few cocktails last night discussed the Twitter

2598
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:47,400
Speaker 1: pole's topics just one and that, but that was really

2599
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 1: worse one topic. Yeah, one time we got through one

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01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:53,000
Speaker 1: topic and talking about something else. But which big name

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01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 1: player do you want to see the Bills acquire this

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01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 1: soft season? We've got time to talk about it on

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01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 1: the phone two eight h three oh five fifty or

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01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:01,400
Speaker 1: outside Buffalo toll free one eight eight five fifty two

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01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:04,760
Speaker 1: five fifty. On the Twitter poll itself, thirty four percent

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01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 1: of you have somebody you mind us not on our list,

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01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:07,840
Speaker 1: So that's why you need to call us and let

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01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 1: us know. Thirty three percent of thirty you say Antonio Brown,

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01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:14,400
Speaker 1: twenty one percent say Patriots defensive lineman Trey Flowers, and

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01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:16,880
Speaker 1: twelve percent say let On Bell. Well listen to any

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01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 1: of that. Give us a make the case. Yeah, let's

2612
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 1: take a few phone calls here. Jim on the line

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01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:24,040
Speaker 1: from Williamsville, Hello, Jim, go ahead, you're on the air. Hey,

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01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:26,400
Speaker 1: how's it going guys? Yeah, that was a great segment

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01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:29,120
Speaker 1: with Matt. I thought that was a great job he did.

2616
01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:34,480
Speaker 1: I was calling Moore on the news about Jason Witton,

2617
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:37,400
Speaker 1: and I was I was really trying to pick Steve's

2618
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: brain about whether you think that's a competitive advantage for

2619
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:44,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys for him to go now into the locker

2620
01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:47,040
Speaker 1: room after being up there in meeting stocking of people,

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01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:51,440
Speaker 1: and I wanted to hear his opinion on that. I

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01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:53,320
Speaker 1: don't think it's any kind of advantage at all for

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01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Like say, for instance, if the Monday Night

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01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:58,920
Speaker 1: crew did a bunch of Philadelphia Eagles games or watching

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01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:01,680
Speaker 1: Redskin games or New York Giant games, and Witton was

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02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 1: in the booth and got a chance to talk to

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Speaker 1: their coaches and players, that is not going to be

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02:00:05,960 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 1: in a competitive advantage. From one year to the next.

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02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:13,440
Speaker 1: As a broadcaster, things changed so much year to hear, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and there's not. I would be shocked that the Redskins,

2631
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Speaker 1: Giants or Philadelphia Eagles gave Jason Witten or Booger McFarland

2632
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:25,880
Speaker 1: and the crew of Monday Night Football anything that would

2633
02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:30,520
Speaker 1: help them help that would hurt them competitively in any

2634
02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:32,560
Speaker 1: game that they were playing while they were broadcasting, and

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02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 1: certainly by the same token, that wouldn't help him a

2636
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:38,120
Speaker 1: year later when he actually went on the field. You've

2637
02:00:38,160 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 1: been in hundreds of those production meetings over the years

2638
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:43,480
Speaker 1: in your roles at CBS, when you first came off

2639
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:46,120
Speaker 1: the field and with your close association with the Buffalo Bills,

2640
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:48,080
Speaker 1: did you ever get the senset when your meeting with

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02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:50,200
Speaker 1: say the Dolphins or the Patriots or the Jets, that

2642
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:52,960
Speaker 1: the coach or the player or somebody else in the

2643
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:55,440
Speaker 1: meeting room might think, I can tell Steve Tasker that

2644
02:00:55,640 --> 02:00:58,480
Speaker 1: he's still close with Buffalo. Yeah, a little bit. It

2645
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:03,120
Speaker 1: happened couple of times where particularly on Bills games obviously,

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02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 1: where you're talking and the I remember early in my career,

2647
02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:08,880
Speaker 1: I was doing a Colt game and Jim Moore was

2648
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:12,920
Speaker 1: still coaching and they were playing the Bills, and uh,

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02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:15,040
Speaker 1: he came over and had a conversation because listen, I

2650
02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:16,720
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about any of this is getting

2651
02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:19,560
Speaker 1: back to one Bill's drive, right, And because this was

2652
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:21,800
Speaker 1: on a Friday, and it was it was in Indianapolis,

2653
02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:25,680
Speaker 1: and I was like absolutely, and I said, listen, coach, no,

2654
02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:28,080
Speaker 1: you're they're not going to know anything that I find

2655
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:32,440
Speaker 1: out this here. And also they're not gonna ask you know,

2656
02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:36,400
Speaker 1: so uh, because it just doesn't come up like that.

2657
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 1: The only what we're really sensitive about in that is

2658
02:01:40,640 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 1: if I've talked to say the Buffalo Bills on Friday,

2659
02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 1: that's a home game for them, and we're doing their

2660
02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:48,480
Speaker 1: game and I and I asked coach McDermott something, and

2661
02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:51,240
Speaker 1: he was to say, yeah, well, you know, they tell

2662
02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:54,440
Speaker 1: us or they we are film studies toast tells us

2663
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:57,920
Speaker 1: that they have they don't boot leg when they run

2664
02:01:58,000 --> 02:02:00,760
Speaker 1: it to the right. They don't boot leg left for

2665
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:02,880
Speaker 1: their quarter because he can't throw it because he's right handed.

2666
02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:05,720
Speaker 1: So they they've never run a bootleg to the left,

2667
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:09,360
Speaker 1: you know, or or he say we haven't, the Bills haven't.

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02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 1: He goes, we're gonna run it tomorrow. We're gonna run

2669
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:15,600
Speaker 1: a bootleg to the left tomorrow. So you know, you

2670
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:18,520
Speaker 1: don't go to the opponent and say, what happens if

2671
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:21,320
Speaker 1: the Bills, like, run a bootleg to the left tomorrow,

2672
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Speaker 1: you don't do that because it tips them off that well,

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02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:26,560
Speaker 1: why would they run a bootleg to the left tomorrow.

2674
02:02:26,560 --> 02:02:28,840
Speaker 1: They've never done it before. So there's kind of things

2675
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:31,640
Speaker 1: you can ask, you can you gotta be careful of

2676
02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:35,480
Speaker 1: the questions you ask both teams so that you don't

2677
02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:39,000
Speaker 1: give them any inkling as to what you may know

2678
02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:41,640
Speaker 1: about the other team. You can't ask a question that

2679
02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:44,160
Speaker 1: is revealing about your knowledge about the other team, because

2680
02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:46,280
Speaker 1: then it becomes a competitive advantage. So you really have

2681
02:02:46,400 --> 02:02:52,000
Speaker 1: to For me, it's that's job one. You can't tip

2682
02:02:52,080 --> 02:02:54,440
Speaker 1: the competitive balance. You gotta be mindful of what you're asking.

2683
02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:57,280
Speaker 1: It's never it's never been an issue for us. Got

2684
02:02:57,320 --> 02:03:01,080
Speaker 1: it hey? Our Twitter poll topic today generating some interest

2685
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:03,400
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Which high profile player do you want the

2686
02:03:03,440 --> 02:03:06,360
Speaker 1: Bills to acquire this offseason? A couple of responses. William

2687
02:03:06,440 --> 02:03:09,040
Speaker 1: Conley tweets in from the tweet sheet, I like Golden

2688
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:11,760
Speaker 1: Tate would bring experience to the young wide receiver group.

2689
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:15,280
Speaker 1: Always seems to get open and reliable hands. Okay, he's

2690
02:03:15,320 --> 02:03:17,800
Speaker 1: not elderly, but he's certainly in the second half of

2691
02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:21,720
Speaker 1: his NFL career by the yeah, by the by NFL standards,

2692
02:03:21,800 --> 02:03:27,160
Speaker 1: he's yeah, he's old, but yeah. From Bills and Mets fan,

2693
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:30,720
Speaker 1: met Paradis seems like a good pickup Phil and obvious

2694
02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:33,360
Speaker 1: need with no drama, just an injury concern. Okay, I

2695
02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 1: can deal with that. And Bryan rossignal on the tweet sheet,

2696
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:40,080
Speaker 1: Tyrol Williams is the best fit, best fit wide receiver

2697
02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:43,600
Speaker 1: currently available. A huge box could ninety percent sure be

2698
02:03:43,720 --> 02:03:46,760
Speaker 1: checked off. He's healthy, young, and somewhat accomplished in a

2699
02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:51,120
Speaker 1: bloated system. I think about that, learned from Philip Rivers

2700
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:53,440
Speaker 1: and Keenan Ellen. Not going to outshine the young room,

2701
02:03:53,520 --> 02:03:56,320
Speaker 1: but fit well, freeze draft up. Okay, a lot of

2702
02:03:56,440 --> 02:03:59,080
Speaker 1: arguments there. And I asked Daniel Jeremiah about him and

2703
02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:01,800
Speaker 1: he thought so too. Williams right at the Chargers. Yeah,

2704
02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:04,879
Speaker 1: you need a guy. It's interesting because you get these teams,

2705
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:10,520
Speaker 1: some teams by happenstance or rarely by plan, they get

2706
02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:13,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of good players at one spot, and you

2707
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:17,360
Speaker 1: can get somebody off of that. And that is a

2708
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:19,320
Speaker 1: real plumb because if you can get a guy like

2709
02:04:19,440 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 1: Terrell Williams who's been kind of held back because of

2710
02:04:22,240 --> 02:04:26,600
Speaker 1: lack of opportunity, you sign that guy and he wants

2711
02:04:26,640 --> 02:04:29,240
Speaker 1: to prove how good he was. He wants to prove

2712
02:04:29,360 --> 02:04:31,280
Speaker 1: that he was able, he could have played on the

2713
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:34,120
Speaker 1: other team's previous team. They come in, even if you

2714
02:04:34,160 --> 02:04:35,760
Speaker 1: pay him a lot of money or you know the

2715
02:04:35,880 --> 02:04:37,960
Speaker 1: going rate, They still have a chip on their shoulder,

2716
02:04:38,160 --> 02:04:40,040
Speaker 1: and those guys are hard to find. And so I

2717
02:04:40,120 --> 02:04:43,040
Speaker 1: think he's right in the right spot. He's and you know,

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02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:45,160
Speaker 1: that's kind of the ripe fruit of free agency that

2719
02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:47,200
Speaker 1: I think the Bills need to grab. I think he's

2720
02:04:47,200 --> 02:04:49,520
Speaker 1: a perfect fit. We got time for more responses to that.

2721
02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:51,360
Speaker 1: Which big name guys would you like to see the

2722
02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:53,880
Speaker 1: Bills go after? Give us a call eight three five

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02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:57,600
Speaker 1: fifty or toll free one eight five fifty two five fifty.

2724
02:04:57,640 --> 02:04:59,600
Speaker 1: But now, Steve, you want to play a little NFL

2725
02:04:59,640 --> 02:05:03,320
Speaker 1: true and Okay, it's ready. It's the game show that's

2726
02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 1: taken over the country. That's NFL True and False, brought

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02:05:06,400 --> 02:05:08,680
Speaker 1: to you by your friends at Yancey's Fancy New York's

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Speaker 1: Artist and Chiefs. They can go true and false. The

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02:05:12,440 --> 02:05:15,800
Speaker 1: quarterback paradigm is shifting. This comes from a piece on

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Speaker 1: the ringer. I think you were trying to say that

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02:05:17,280 --> 02:05:19,800
Speaker 1: earlier today and we're talking about Kyler Murray, weren't you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it is. I would say, yes, it is.

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Speaker 1: I would say true. You've got more protection for the

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02:05:28,880 --> 02:05:32,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks than ever before. You've got them making being able

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02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:34,320
Speaker 1: to do things on the field. That they were never

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02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:36,680
Speaker 1: able to do and not pay a physical price for it.

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02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:41,240
Speaker 1: I think they've become even more of a weapon athletically

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Speaker 1: because of these rules than they've ever been in the past.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's becoming more of a trait that

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Speaker 1: teams are looking for in the quarterbacks they draft. So

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Speaker 1: I would say, yes, it is shifting. I'm not saying

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02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:54,960
Speaker 1: it's an incomplete hundred and eighty, but I think it

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02:05:55,080 --> 02:05:58,160
Speaker 1: has moved over the last handful of maybe last decade,

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Speaker 1: for sure. All Right, I hear you. I'm not ready

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02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:03,160
Speaker 1: to go there. I think there's still something to be

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02:06:03,240 --> 02:06:05,480
Speaker 1: said for the pocket passer. I think the Bills got

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02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:08,600
Speaker 1: themselves one now that they're pretty excited about. I think

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02:06:08,680 --> 02:06:10,600
Speaker 1: a size does matter. You want to have a guy

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02:06:10,640 --> 02:06:13,080
Speaker 1: who's big enough to see over the offensive line. I

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02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:16,400
Speaker 1: think athleticism matters more than ever. Maybe that's the paradigms

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02:06:16,400 --> 02:06:18,960
Speaker 1: that's shifting, you know, Maybe you know Josh Allen is

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02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:22,160
Speaker 1: not a standard old school pocket passer who can't move

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02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:24,280
Speaker 1: at all. He can move, and we'll move well. But

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go false just because I want to go false.

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02:06:27,280 --> 02:06:29,920
Speaker 1: And one more, I don't want to agree with you

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Speaker 1: all here's part two of NFL True and False another

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02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:36,600
Speaker 1: quarterback question. Derek Carr is a franchise quarterback. That's what

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Speaker 1: his general manager said yesterday, Mike Mayock, Derek Carr is

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Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. Can I go first? Ye? True? True,

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02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:47,760
Speaker 1: he is, And he's fallen off the radar a little

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02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:49,320
Speaker 1: bit the last couple of years. I don't think he's

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02:06:49,320 --> 02:06:51,000
Speaker 1: benefited from a lot of coaching out there and just

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02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:53,680
Speaker 1: sort of an unsettled situation in Oakland. But I have

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02:06:53,840 --> 02:06:56,800
Speaker 1: no doubt that Derek Carr has all the essentials to

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02:06:56,880 --> 02:06:59,520
Speaker 1: be a really good NFL quarterback, no doubt at all.

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02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:02,200
Speaker 1: Yet see as a franchise quarterback, I can see why

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02:07:02,480 --> 02:07:05,040
Speaker 1: Mike Mayock said that yesterday. I say, I say true

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Speaker 1: as well, And he's a franchise quarterback right now. Without

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02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:11,400
Speaker 1: a franchise, they don't have a place to play there,

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02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:15,080
Speaker 1: they don't have a roster around him. They're a hot

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02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:18,440
Speaker 1: dumpster fire of a mess and there doesn't And their

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02:07:18,520 --> 02:07:21,320
Speaker 1: draft last year didn't make any sense, and I would

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02:07:21,320 --> 02:07:23,200
Speaker 1: be interested to see if their draft this year makes

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02:07:23,200 --> 02:07:26,280
Speaker 1: a little more sense. So I would say true, Derek

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02:07:26,360 --> 02:07:29,600
Speaker 1: Carr is a franchise quarterback. Without a team to play on.

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Speaker 1: We got one more and it's so tasty that we

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02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:34,240
Speaker 1: have to get to it. True or false? Are you

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02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:38,040
Speaker 1: ready for this? And it's discussed this week at at

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Speaker 1: the Competition Committee meetings. True or false. NFL is getting

2780
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:44,960
Speaker 1: ready to prevent players from leaving the sidelines for celebrations.

2781
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:48,280
Speaker 1: And that's crazy. Is that true? Yes, that's true. The

2782
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:51,440
Speaker 1: fact that it's crazy is true. Look, you don't want

2783
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:53,400
Speaker 1: the game to stop for an a half hour while

2784
02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:56,520
Speaker 1: people come off the bench, But yeah, you're kind of

2785
02:07:56,600 --> 02:07:59,480
Speaker 1: getting back to the old no fun league paradigm. Speaking

2786
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:01,600
Speaker 1: of paradigm, you know you can't leave the bench if

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02:08:01,640 --> 02:08:04,360
Speaker 1: your team just scored a touchdown with thirteen seconds to go,

2788
02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:08,280
Speaker 1: for example. That's stupid. So and this is awkwardly worded,

2789
02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:12,320
Speaker 1: but yes, true. Borrowing players from leaving the sidelines is crazy.

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02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:14,720
Speaker 1: That's true, crazy and wrong. It is true. It's wrong.

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02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:17,560
Speaker 1: They still and it's there's no reason for it. The

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02:08:18,040 --> 02:08:20,040
Speaker 1: play clock keeps going. They've got to finish it up.

2793
02:08:20,080 --> 02:08:21,840
Speaker 1: The play clocks going, they got to get the extra

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02:08:21,920 --> 02:08:23,640
Speaker 1: point off in the exact same amount of time they

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02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:25,560
Speaker 1: do where they come off the bench or not put

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02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:27,200
Speaker 1: the teams on the play clock just like you do

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02:08:27,280 --> 02:08:30,320
Speaker 1: every other play, and let's go. There's no reason to

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02:08:30,440 --> 02:08:32,920
Speaker 1: change it now. Let let the coach do cartwheels. I

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02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:35,240
Speaker 1: don't care as long as that playclock goes and that

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02:08:35,320 --> 02:08:38,040
Speaker 1: play next play happens when it's supposed to happen. Fine,

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02:08:38,120 --> 02:08:40,120
Speaker 1: let them run. Yeah, let them so. I think that's

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02:08:40,160 --> 02:08:42,200
Speaker 1: true too. It is crazy. There you go. NFL True

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02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:45,920
Speaker 1: and False brought to you by Yancey's Fancy America's most Wonderful.

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Speaker 1: for correcting me, Steve and I coming back with more.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Life presented by Kalada Health from the Scouting

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02:08:54,080 --> 02:09:08,720
Speaker 1: Combine and Indie. And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio Time.

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Speaker 1: find us in Security and Home Theater, the preferred alarm

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Speaker 1: and home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. Had a

2812
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:21,080
Speaker 1: really good show today. We'd Charles Davis on the show

2813
02:09:21,160 --> 02:09:24,720
Speaker 1: earlier today from the NFL on Fox, also from NFL Network,

2814
02:09:24,920 --> 02:09:27,720
Speaker 1: Charles Davis talked about the next steps for the Buffalo Bills.

2815
02:09:27,760 --> 02:09:30,360
Speaker 1: Here's what he said, first steps to make sure he

2816
02:09:30,440 --> 02:09:32,640
Speaker 1: keeps some bubble wrap around Josh Allen here, right right.

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02:09:32,800 --> 02:09:34,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he really did a nice job, didn't He

2818
02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:36,600
Speaker 1: showed to me he showed a great amount of toughness

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02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:39,560
Speaker 1: last year, not just his ability to run the football,

2820
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:42,560
Speaker 1: but being able to bounce back from from some big hits,

2821
02:09:42,760 --> 02:09:45,400
Speaker 1: from some injuries, step in there and keep firing away.

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02:09:46,240 --> 02:09:48,200
Speaker 1: I like what he showed that way. The second part

2823
02:09:48,320 --> 02:09:50,320
Speaker 1: is the defense played awfully well. And you know Sean

2824
02:09:50,440 --> 02:09:53,560
Speaker 1: mcdermot's special day. Going back to when I saw you

2825
02:09:53,640 --> 02:09:57,120
Speaker 1: in preseason the Cincinnati Bengals game, offensive line was immediately

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02:09:57,200 --> 02:09:59,520
Speaker 1: something just jumped out at me. And I think that's

2827
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:02,360
Speaker 1: still a place of huge need because I still remember

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02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:05,480
Speaker 1: seeing Geno Atkins make that big play and I think

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02:10:05,480 --> 02:10:07,520
Speaker 1: it was John Miller unfore she took back and knocked

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02:10:07,560 --> 02:10:09,720
Speaker 1: down the quarterback, and that left the heck of an

2831
02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:11,920
Speaker 1: impression on me. So I've beenk offensive line and this

2832
02:10:12,080 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 1: is a good draft for offensive line. With Charles Davis

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02:10:17,120 --> 02:10:19,600
Speaker 1: talking about a preseason game from last year, pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Also on the show today, Bills, gentlemanage your Brandon being

2835
02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:24,080
Speaker 1: at a long conversation with him, and you can pick

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02:10:24,120 --> 02:10:26,560
Speaker 1: it up on our website later on today, Buffalo bills

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Speaker 1: dot com. One of the things you talked about was

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Speaker 1: the informal conversations among teams here at the combine that

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02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:34,480
Speaker 1: can eventually lead to deals between teams. Here's what he

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02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:38,280
Speaker 1: had to say. I've had three calls last week, Hey,

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02:10:38,680 --> 02:10:41,040
Speaker 1: just to get you ahead of the curve. We may

2842
02:10:41,120 --> 02:10:43,960
Speaker 1: move on from you know, these guys on these teams

2843
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:46,080
Speaker 1: and asking me did I have any guys that they

2844
02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:49,280
Speaker 1: should look at or any positions and so that way

2845
02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:50,960
Speaker 1: when we run into them here, hey, what did you

2846
02:10:51,040 --> 02:10:53,000
Speaker 1: think about this player? Would you be any interest in

2847
02:10:53,080 --> 02:10:55,720
Speaker 1: a swap or a spot for picks? And and that

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02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:58,280
Speaker 1: will pick up even more once we get it into

2849
02:10:58,480 --> 02:11:00,960
Speaker 1: the workouts, because what happens is you're on the dome,

2850
02:11:01,000 --> 02:11:04,240
Speaker 1: you're all on these suites, and this group will run

2851
02:11:04,680 --> 02:11:07,360
Speaker 1: and then there's you know, twenty thirty minutes at dead time,

2852
02:11:07,520 --> 02:11:09,040
Speaker 1: and so you walk down the hall, you see your

2853
02:11:09,040 --> 02:11:12,680
Speaker 1: buddy from this team that team, and sometimes conversations you

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02:11:12,720 --> 02:11:15,440
Speaker 1: didn't even know we're gonna happen happen, and so who

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02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:18,400
Speaker 1: knows if anything will come to fruition, But we're always

2856
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:20,400
Speaker 1: looking to improve our roster, and if there's a chance

2857
02:11:20,440 --> 02:11:24,760
Speaker 1: to do that, we'll try and make that move. There

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02:11:24,760 --> 02:11:26,840
Speaker 1: you go, Brandon Bean. We had a good conversation with him.

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Speaker 1: See what did you learn from today's show? Well, I

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02:11:30,480 --> 02:11:34,360
Speaker 1: learned that Permanni Brothers makes a good sandwich. I learned

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02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:39,200
Speaker 1: that everybody there's more. There's as many Padia people here

2862
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Speaker 1: in this environment for the for the combine as there

2863
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:48,760
Speaker 1: is super in radio row at super Bowl. Yeah, take

2864
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:50,600
Speaker 1: a look around here, but there's not as many. There's

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02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:53,960
Speaker 1: just not as many TV networks. But the super Bowl

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02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:55,760
Speaker 1: set up was three times the size of this, right.

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02:11:56,480 --> 02:12:00,720
Speaker 1: This seems pretty big to me. But yeah, yeah, nah,

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Speaker 1: this is a good show. I like the show today.

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Speaker 1: We had a really good guest surprisingly show. Because I

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Speaker 1: didn't know to like Matt Bowen. I didn't know him

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02:12:07,200 --> 02:12:09,000
Speaker 1: that well. So he came out. He was good. We

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Speaker 1: gotta get him back on. Yeah, we gotta make him

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02:12:11,600 --> 02:12:14,040
Speaker 1: a regular. Yeah, he's good. He's good. Yeah. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have tomorrow show his partner on the NFL

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Speaker 1: matchup on ESPN. Great co sal a normal Friday visitor,

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02:12:19,760 --> 02:12:22,320
Speaker 1: will be with us tomorrow Lorenzo Alexander will be with

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Speaker 1: us tomorrow. Am I missing somebody? There's somebody else on

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Speaker 1: tomorrow show. Oh, Bucky Brooks from the NFL Network will

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Speaker 1: be with us tomorrow as good as today was. Teammate

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Speaker 1: Mind Tomorrow will be just as good. Yes, and maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll get you more Premanni Brothers tomorrow. I'm like, that's

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Speaker 1: in my contract. Production assistance for today's show. George Blast,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Coltnick Thomas Honalder, Kelly Rude, JJ Turito, Kevin Cargi's

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Speaker 1: teams Robel here in Indy, Simon, Tucky and Sam Leck,

2885
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Speaker 1: and our producer is Jay Harris. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown for being part of the show today as well.

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Speaker 1: We are back tomorrow for our final Combine show. Join

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Speaker 1: us twelve noon right here from the Indiana Convention Center.

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Speaker 1: It's one Ville's Life, presented by Kalida Health from the

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Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine. And this is Buffalo Bill's radioh