WEBVTT - Mass Killings in Iran

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<v Speaker 1>Hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred and nine four one,

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<v Speaker 1>Shawn our number. You want to be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the program. This is President Trump yesterday encouraging the protesters

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<v Speaker 1>in Iran to keep protesting and that help is on

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<v Speaker 1>the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what he said to all Iranian patriots, keep protesting,

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<v Speaker 2>take over your institutions if possible, and save the name

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<v Speaker 2>of the killers and the abusers that are abusing you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're being very badly abused. Then I've canceled all meetings

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<v Speaker 2>with the Iranian officials until the senseless killing of protesters stops.

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<v Speaker 2>And all I say to them is help is on

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<v Speaker 2>its way. You saw that I put tariffs on anybody

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<v Speaker 2>doing business with Iran, just went into effect today, and

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<v Speaker 2>I say, make I ran great again. You know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a great country until these monsters came in and

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<v Speaker 2>took it over.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is seemingly getting worse by the day. The

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<v Speaker 1>Iranian Revolutionary Guard forces have been out just slaughtering people.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to imagine that President Trump means everything that

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<v Speaker 1>he says. He doesn't make idle threats. That's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>we know about the president and we have right now.

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<v Speaker 1>What's happening is an evacuation. Very key personnel at key

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<v Speaker 1>US military bases in the region, for example, at a

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<v Speaker 1>Cutter have been advised to evacuate.

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<v Speaker 3>That is now ongoing on an.

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<v Speaker 1>Expedited basis, which would I think a pretty strong warning

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<v Speaker 1>that something militarily may happen with the president. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to imagine there may be an attempt to get some

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<v Speaker 1>type of arms into the hands of protesters. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>win a revolution with a slingshot or a bottle or

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<v Speaker 1>a brick. It's just not going to work. We have

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Ackman put this out on x earlier today. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually passed it on to Sean Current, the head of

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<v Speaker 1>the Secret Service Islamic Republic State TV.

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<v Speaker 3>He points out across the.

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<v Speaker 1>Red line, airing the image of President Trump after the

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<v Speaker 1>assassination attempt, along with a Persian message reading quote this

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<v Speaker 1>time the bullet won't miss a direct threat against the president.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously here arranging leaders now are signaling that fast trials

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<v Speaker 1>and executions the protesters are now beginning. We expected that

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<v Speaker 1>first one to happen today. Haven't got confirmation. A twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six year old expecting the security forces their crackdown has

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<v Speaker 1>killed as many as twenty thousand people to date, so

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine help is on the way. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think the President very wisely is putting the safety and

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<v Speaker 1>security of Americans in the region first and getting them out.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they've expedited that mission to date, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would expect that the President means what he says. The

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<v Speaker 1>very strong action against Iran and the regime you know

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<v Speaker 1>is is about to happen. He wouldn't be telling the

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<v Speaker 1>protesters to keep protesting otherwise. Joining us now is Amir Fakrovar.

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<v Speaker 1>He's now teaching cooperative constitutional law at Texas State University.

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<v Speaker 1>Author of the best selling book in Iran, Comrade Ayatola.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also the National Iranian Congress Senate Chairman. Also joining

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<v Speaker 1>us as Congressman Zach Nunn of Iowa, a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the Four Country Caucus, which is Iraq and Iran veterans

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<v Speaker 1>serving in the House. Thank you both for being here. Amir,

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<v Speaker 1>let me start with you. What are you hearing from

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<v Speaker 1>people on the ground. The images I'm seeing are just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from a horror movie.

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<v Speaker 3>They're horrific.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. Thank you Sean for having me since last

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<v Speaker 4>week when we spoke. We lost at least twenty thousand,

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<v Speaker 4>very brave Iranians, the heroes. Yeah, regime have done another massacre.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the largest one and in two days, in forty

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<v Speaker 4>eight hours, they killed up to now we know the

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<v Speaker 4>number is at least twenty thousand, and it will go

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<v Speaker 4>up maybe to fifty thousand. You cannot hear such a

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<v Speaker 4>thing in modern history. And it's we are all very

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<v Speaker 4>worried about the people inside the country.

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<v Speaker 5>Every single family they lost some family members, all of

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<v Speaker 5>us which we are living in exile, ten million Iranians

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<v Speaker 5>in exile. We have our family inside and all of

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<v Speaker 5>us we lost some family members.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a massacre, bloody massacre.

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<v Speaker 5>Regime killed with drone, with the drone show Head drone,

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<v Speaker 5>which IRGC gave two hundred twenty five hundreds of those

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<v Speaker 5>drones to Russia to kill the Ukrainian civilians. They are

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<v Speaker 5>you using right now those drones to kill the protesters

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<v Speaker 5>in street. And just think about this tyranny, this brutal regime.

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<v Speaker 5>They have thousands of missiles and they if they can

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<v Speaker 5>kill their own people. Most of the people who have

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<v Speaker 5>been killed, they are teenagers, they're very young, and if

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<v Speaker 5>regime can kill them that easy, Oh, yes, they will

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<v Speaker 5>use those ballistic missiles when they can breathe. Right now,

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<v Speaker 5>they cannot breathe because with the heart sanctioned President Trump

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<v Speaker 5>just got them. And if they can feel a little

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<v Speaker 5>space to breathe, then regime definitely will go to hit Israel,

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<v Speaker 5>will go to hit the European capitals, and they are

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<v Speaker 5>planning with the help of China to hit New York, Florida, Morolago.

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<v Speaker 4>And you have seen in the.

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<v Speaker 5>Photo on Iranian state TV today which was widely broadcasted,

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<v Speaker 5>that yes, this time we will not miss the target.

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<v Speaker 5>In farce, it's in em that says the first assassination

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<v Speaker 5>attempt was their job too. They're saying in Bard that

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<v Speaker 5>means we did it before, we missed it. This time

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<v Speaker 5>we will not miss it. And it's this regime definitely.

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<v Speaker 5>President Trump should always when he said he's going to

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<v Speaker 5>punish them, he should go and punish them. He should

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<v Speaker 5>destroy entire Iranian missile facilities with the help of Israelis.

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<v Speaker 5>And then we have some targets, Sean, we have some

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<v Speaker 5>very clear targets that the US Army can attack. We

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<v Speaker 5>are not talking about the boots on the ground, the

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<v Speaker 5>beautiful b toos and F thirty five's and F forty seven.

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<v Speaker 5>It can be the first mission. For F forty seven,

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<v Speaker 5>they can go and target. It's called the Pastor Area

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<v Speaker 5>in Tehran, in the capitol of Iran. The Pastor area

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<v Speaker 5>is the different palaces of the King of Iran, the

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<v Speaker 5>last King of Iran, which all the Mulahs. They are

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<v Speaker 5>living in these palaces, including Mester's Supreme leader. This Pastor

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<v Speaker 5>area is gated, very secure. The people cannot go there.

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<v Speaker 5>Whoever lives in that area. Please President Trump, remember Pastor Area.

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<v Speaker 5>Whoever lives there is either a mullahs, a killer or

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<v Speaker 5>their minions around. Yeah, the best target is Pastor area.

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<v Speaker 5>The Iranian missile facilities and the Homainies the founder of

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<v Speaker 5>Islamic revolutions. His shrine is another very good target for America.

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<v Speaker 5>To President Trump, needs to send the very strong target

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<v Speaker 5>and Iranian State TV. Then they can understand they cannot

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<v Speaker 5>come and send some this type of message to President

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<v Speaker 5>of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman Zach Nunn, you're an American hero and you're now

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<v Speaker 1>an elected member of Congress from Iowa, and you're with

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<v Speaker 1>the Four Country Caucus, which is Iraq Iran veterans serving

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<v Speaker 1>in the house. Your former Air Force intelligence officer deployed

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<v Speaker 1>three times to the Middle East after nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>There, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Among some people to some ambiguity. For me, I have

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<v Speaker 1>pretty I have moral clarity on this. There's there's no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt in my mind zero that the President did the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing by taking out Iran's nuclear sites. Number one

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<v Speaker 1>state sponsor of terror. They have threatened this country many,

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<v Speaker 1>many times. If they ever got weapons of mass destruction

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<v Speaker 1>coupled with their radical ideology, I think it is a

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<v Speaker 1>clear and present danger to the entire world, never mind

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<v Speaker 1>the region we're watching mass slaughter of individuals. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the President's you know, the Trump doctrine, if you will,

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<v Speaker 1>which is no forever wars, no boots on the grounds,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is the perfect solution in this case. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the President means what he says. The President is

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<v Speaker 1>evacuating military personnel on bases nearby that the Iranians might

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<v Speaker 1>be able to hit. Clearly something is on the way.

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<v Speaker 1>What would be the right response in your view?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, Sean, I think you were hitting this nail on

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<v Speaker 6>the head, and I want to say, our heart is

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<v Speaker 6>out to Amir, and you know his fellow warriors in

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<v Speaker 6>Iran right now, Amir and I both you know. I

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<v Speaker 6>saw at the Institute for World Politics here in DC

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<v Speaker 6>for a while. But Sean, my head is with the

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<v Speaker 6>President on this. He has approached this the absolute right way.

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<v Speaker 6>I've flown out of that bass in guitar how ud

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<v Speaker 6>Air his based fly in combat recont operations off the

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<v Speaker 6>coast of Iran. The Iranians always threatening to shoot us

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<v Speaker 6>down every single time. They have no problems coming after

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<v Speaker 6>the United States. And here's the reality. Iran, just in

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<v Speaker 6>the last years alone has been the number one funder

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<v Speaker 6>to Hamas in Lebanon, to hesb Law in Lebanon and Gaza,

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<v Speaker 6>as well as what the Huthi rebels have done by

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<v Speaker 6>shooting at US area carrier strike groups, a rebel group

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<v Speaker 6>taking potshots at US carriers, and the Biden administration doing

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<v Speaker 6>nothing in response, embolden the Ayatola and the IRGC. And

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<v Speaker 6>so when we talk about what we can do in

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<v Speaker 6>response here, the President's approach is correct. First, I'm very

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<v Speaker 6>proud in Congress that I'm leading the Iran maximum pressure campaign.

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<v Speaker 6>It's put real economic sanctions, cut off their ghost sleep,

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<v Speaker 6>stop their floil of oil to places like China where

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<v Speaker 6>they get their money to fund the IRGC and keep

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<v Speaker 6>the Ayatola in power. That is step one. But the

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<v Speaker 6>President also made very clear. You know, I flew some

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<v Speaker 6>of the first recommissions over Iraq that looked at Solamani,

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<v Speaker 6>the IRGC commander, and President Trump in his first term

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<v Speaker 6>turned Solimani into Slami when he eliminated him as the

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<v Speaker 6>head of the IRGC. That's a very clear message to

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<v Speaker 6>folks back and iron Yet President Trump was going to

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<v Speaker 6>be different and so coming into his second term here

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<v Speaker 6>to see the Iranian people rides up against an oppressive

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<v Speaker 6>regime and to not only lend support, but to action

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<v Speaker 6>economic sanctions against the Ayahtola to make sure that the

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<v Speaker 6>IRGC is unnoticed that if they shoot innocent civilians as

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<v Speaker 6>you have noted tragically in the back of the heads

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<v Speaker 6>to the tune of tens of thousands being executed publicly

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<v Speaker 6>and this.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you seen the videos that I've seen.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, tragically, tragically, yes, But the reality here is Sean, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, I want you to explain in your words, because

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<v Speaker 1>these are not images that will ever leave you in

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<v Speaker 1>my view, That's why I can't air them on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I kids are watching my show. I don't want that

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<v Speaker 1>that in their head for the rest of their life.

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<v Speaker 6>Sean, you are absolutely right. We fly a recomplaint that

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<v Speaker 6>listens to what's happening on the ground and to hear

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<v Speaker 6>people screaming for their life as they are lined up

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<v Speaker 6>and executed with shots to the back of the head.

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<v Speaker 6>And these aren't just protesters. These are Iranians across one

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<v Speaker 6>hundred and eighty different cities in all thirty one provinces,

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<v Speaker 6>who have tried to stand up for basic survivability. And

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<v Speaker 6>the Iranian people themselves are great, they are huge allies,

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<v Speaker 6>they are huge potential partners with us in this region.

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<v Speaker 6>But the reality is here. This country is under the

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<v Speaker 6>iron grip of the IRGC, and this is where after

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<v Speaker 6>what you and I have seen it, I guarantee the

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<v Speaker 6>president has seen even worse. And so when he talks

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<v Speaker 6>about taking tactical but lethal strikes, there are value add

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<v Speaker 6>targets here in eliminating IRGC command. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 6>bomb this country into the stone Age. I don't want

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<v Speaker 6>to see boots on the ground. I want to see

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<v Speaker 6>the biggest.

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<v Speaker 1>Ohry For those that don't. You're talking about the Iranian

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<v Speaker 1>Revolutionary Guard.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, Yeah, the IGC. There's two militaries effectively within Iran.

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<v Speaker 6>Many know this. There's the Iranian military, which serves as

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<v Speaker 6>basically just defense, and then there's the IRGC, which sponsors

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<v Speaker 6>terrorism and tries to project Iran abroad. The reality here

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<v Speaker 6>is protests alone are not going to be enough to

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<v Speaker 6>destroy the Iyatola and the death that he's done. To

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<v Speaker 6>hold him in check. The IRGC has to be clipped.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's the safeguard not only for the Ironium people.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a safeguard for the two thousand Iowa National Guards

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<v Speaker 6>members from my home state who are deployed right now

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<v Speaker 6>trying to protect you as interests abroad. It's a protection

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<v Speaker 6>for Americans when there are IGC operations being carried out

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<v Speaker 6>at our southern border in the United States and Sean.

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<v Speaker 6>To your very acute point here, the IRGC has come

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<v Speaker 6>up multiple times to try and recruit people to assassinate

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<v Speaker 6>the President of the United States, President Trump. This is

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<v Speaker 6>a regime that's intent on trying to topple our president

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<v Speaker 6>and is hurting millions of folks the world over. Targeted

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<v Speaker 6>strikes on the RGC are an effective way to clip

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<v Speaker 6>their ability to harm the Iranian people, and ultimately, the

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<v Speaker 6>Ironian people have to decide what their future is going

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<v Speaker 6>to look like and how they're going.

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<v Speaker 2>To do it.

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<v Speaker 3>The US Committee and I'd like to see them get armed.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, if there's a way to get

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<v Speaker 1>them armed so they can fight back. You can't win

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<v Speaker 1>a revolution with a slingshot. Listen, I could talk to

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<v Speaker 1>both of you forever. We're gonna probably have you back

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<v Speaker 1>this week. But you know, thank you, Congressman for your

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<v Speaker 1>service number one, and thanks for your passion and your

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<v Speaker 1>clarity on all of this. Emir Fakrovar. We appreciate your passion,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are praying for a speedy, you know, transformation.

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<v Speaker 1>The death the slaughter has to stop. I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>could share with everybody what I what I'm seeing. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I could. I can't, It's that bad. But I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate both of you a mere thank you, and Congressman,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. We appreciate you both, and we will have

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<v Speaker 1>you back to talk more about this. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>developing story as the President now has ordered troops in

0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the region to come home, and that would tell me

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<v Speaker 1>just the opposite of what some of you may think

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<v Speaker 1>that probably some action is imminent. Quick break right back

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<v Speaker 1>will continue on the other side. So Renee good the

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<v Speaker 1>woman that went and reverse and then hit this officer.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we updated earlier today that story because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important that people understand that the officer in this

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<v Speaker 1>particular case that oh the media has been saying never

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<v Speaker 1>got hit. Well, it turns out he suffered internal bleeding

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<v Speaker 1>after being clipped in that encounter. The ICE agent suffered

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<v Speaker 1>the bleeding to his torso according to DHS officials, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure that's going to be corroborated in the days and

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ahead. Anyway, Renee's father, Tim Macklin is his name, apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>was on fake News CNN last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you know, I'm not blaming anybody. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 7>a hard situation all the way around. It's it's hard

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<v Speaker 7>for the you know, for everybody involved. I mean the

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<v Speaker 7>US agent. You know, at first, I didn't see the

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<v Speaker 7>footage where you know, he was actually you know, he

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<v Speaker 7>was actually been ran. I mean I seen the bump

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<v Speaker 7>of the car hitting you know, hitting his legs, and

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<v Speaker 7>so in a you know, in a flash like that,

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<v Speaker 7>it's it's hard to say how you would react from

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<v Speaker 7>my understanding that he had been through that before, maybe

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<v Speaker 7>dragged or something, and so, uh, you know, like I said,

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<v Speaker 7>it's just it's just a hard situation for everybody.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>You know Becca, you know it's she's a great person

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<v Speaker 7>as well. I mean, you know, I don't have any

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<v Speaker 7>many enemies. I love everybody, and and that's what the

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<v Speaker 7>Bible tells us, what our neighbors as we love ourselves.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, I think there's some bad choices and

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<v Speaker 7>the word says for the raptid God would come up

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<v Speaker 7>on the turn of disobedience, and you know it's it's Uh,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't blame us. I don't blame Rebecca. I don't

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<v Speaker 7>blame Renee. I just you know, I just wish that

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<v Speaker 7>you know, if if a walking the spirit of God,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think she would have been there. That's that's

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<v Speaker 7>why I look at it.

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<v Speaker 8>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you just you can't take a car which is

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<v Speaker 1>a weapon, and the law backs up, the law enforcement

0:16:55.800 --> 0:17:00.080
<v Speaker 1>backs up law enforcement. Uh, on the legal merits and

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<v Speaker 1>use it as a weapon and drive and accelerate towards

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<v Speaker 1>an officer. And now that we have more details about

0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:10.320
<v Speaker 1>his injuries, I think that puts to rest any notion

0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.840
<v Speaker 1>that the officer was not hit. Anyway, let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>our busy phones. Brandon, Missouri, Brandon, how are you glad

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<v Speaker 1>you called?

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for checking in, Thanks for taking my call, Sean.

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<v Speaker 8>Is what a touch point here on the Iran situation

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<v Speaker 8>that we have gone on in our involvement with that.

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<v Speaker 8>I really don't think we belong over there, involved deeply

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<v Speaker 8>in that. I know we have talked about limited capabilities,

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<v Speaker 8>but in involvement in that, but I don't know how

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<v Speaker 8>limited limited is. I mean we talk in sending some

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<v Speaker 8>of our protesters in Minneapolis and Portland over there to

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<v Speaker 8>help out, or what are we talking about here?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let me ask you a question.

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<v Speaker 1>The number one state sponsor of terror over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>they have killed Americans, They've threatened America many many times.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know they are a geopolitical enemy. We know

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<v Speaker 1>the work of Solo money that we know they killed

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<v Speaker 1>Americans in Iraq. Do you think it was the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>call for President Trump to take out the nuclear facilities?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it was in our long term national

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<v Speaker 1>strategic America first interest to prevent that right radical ideology

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<v Speaker 1>from ever having weapons of mass destruction like.

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<v Speaker 8>Nuclear weapons agreed, showing yes I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Now, there are a number of other questions. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>is it in our long term national interest America first interest,

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<v Speaker 1>if this regime were to go away?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely, yes, I think it would be great.

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<v Speaker 3>Kay, all right, fair enough?

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<v Speaker 1>So if the president Now, I don't think it's an

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<v Speaker 1>accident what we're witnessing and what we're watching out of

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<v Speaker 1>the Mid East. And I mentioned at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the program today that you have Islamic Republic State TV

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<v Speaker 1>airing an image of President Trump after the assassination attempting Butler,

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<v Speaker 1>along with a Persian message reading quote this time the

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<v Speaker 1>bullet won't miss. Bill Lackman put that out on X Today,

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<v Speaker 1>a direct threat against the president. But we do know

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<v Speaker 1>that the Iranians have threatened death to America, death to Israel, so.

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<v Speaker 3>On and so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you know it doesn't mean that what might

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<v Speaker 1>replace it. I don't think you can get much worse

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<v Speaker 1>than what we have there. Here's another question. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know we can't be the world's policeman, but when you

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<v Speaker 1>see twenty thousand people and maybe the numbers upwards of that, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and we're only getting scattered reports on this.

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<v Speaker 1>When you see a mass slaughter of people and with

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<v Speaker 1>the might of America, should we just sit back and

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<v Speaker 1>do nothing? Should we just let these people get slaughtered?

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<v Speaker 1>Or good America use it's military as a force for

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<v Speaker 1>humanitarian good at times when possible to save lives, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what that's part of the equation here too.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Sean, I don't think this is an either or situation.

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<v Speaker 8>I think this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it kind of is either we're going to help

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<v Speaker 1>or we're not, one or the other. It really is

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<v Speaker 1>either or.

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<v Speaker 8>I say that we help, I agree with that, but

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<v Speaker 8>to what context. I mean we you know, are we

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<v Speaker 8>talking about sending arms over there?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the United Yeah, I think that if I

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<v Speaker 1>had to guess what's going to happen, and you see

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<v Speaker 1>that President Trump now is we have been pulling out.

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<v Speaker 1>Our forces are from bases all over the region so

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<v Speaker 1>that our military won't be you know, sitting ducks and

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<v Speaker 1>targets there. The President has said help is on the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I think arming the city of Iran as part

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<v Speaker 1>of the equation will be part of the equation. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think the President gives idle threats either

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<v Speaker 1>when he says help is on the way to you.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I do not. And I think that's actually something

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<v Speaker 8>that we need to push more for, is the people

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<v Speaker 8>taking back their independence themselves. It means a lot more

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<v Speaker 8>to the populace when they gain their right for existence

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<v Speaker 8>or democracy than it is just handed to them. They

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<v Speaker 8>cherish it and they will fight for it more.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree in principle. I wish all of that were true.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the problem. You have a population that is completely unarmed.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to win a revolution with a slingshot,

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<v Speaker 1>a Molotov cocktail and a rock.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're going up against the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and

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<v Speaker 1>a ruthless regime that puts no value on human life.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what we're dealing with here.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. Yeah, and I guess I would ask where are

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<v Speaker 8>allies in this sean?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, really, far as I'm concerned, they're useless.

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<v Speaker 1>I've all but pretty much given up hope on NATO

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<v Speaker 1>and Europe and their ability to be an effective fighting force.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can see the open contempt that people

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<v Speaker 1>like Vladimir Putin have now. Putin fears Trump, he doesn't

0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:23.320
<v Speaker 1>fear Europe and that's because they have allowed themselves to disintegrate, deteriorate.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, when Great Britain has eighty some on

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<v Speaker 1>Cheria courts and they're not insisting on assimilation within their

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<v Speaker 1>own society and among people they're allowing into their country,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to be separate and apart from the people

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<v Speaker 1>of Great Britain. I think that's a big mistake. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I think we've actually come to an understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've kind of brought you more to my

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<v Speaker 1>side here. I don't want forever wars. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what the beauty of the Trump doctrine to me is

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<v Speaker 1>no forever war, no boots on the ground, surgical strikes,

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<v Speaker 1>but also the the need and moral imperative to act

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<v Speaker 1>on threats and act on you know, just pure evil

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<v Speaker 1>in our time. I mean, if the world, the world

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<v Speaker 1>in many ways turned a blind eye, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>would agree to a lot of the atrocities that were

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<v Speaker 1>going on in Nazi Germany and the world acted too late.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you agree with that?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes? I would. I would also believe that that during

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<v Speaker 8>that time, I don't believe it is publicized that we

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<v Speaker 8>didn't know what was going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we the world knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually a lot of the world knew and was was

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<v Speaker 1>there are too many people were keenly aware they were.

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<v Speaker 3>It was not. It didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not go unnoticed what was happening. But I'd say, here,

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<v Speaker 1>now we do know what's happening, and trust me, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want American treasure, our sons and daughters at

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<v Speaker 1>risk and harm's way. However, I think we have to

0:23:56.320 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 1>be strategic and long term in our thinking and our law,

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 1>long term strategic goals. That's why taking out their nuclear sites,

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 1>to me was moral imperative. And there are some people

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that have interpreted the Trump doctrine to mean isolationism. I'm

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 1>not an isolationist, and I do believe that America, when possible,

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 1>if it sees slaughter and death, like for example, you

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<v Speaker 1>know the murder of Christians in Nigeria, President Trump acted

0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>on Christmas Day, of all days, that was the Christmas

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:31.879
<v Speaker 1>President to Christians in Nigeria because they were being slaughtered.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the president here we see a mass slaughter,

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<v Speaker 1>the President is saying, don't stop. Help is on the way,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that help will manifest itself in numerous ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the least of which is arming the people that

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<v Speaker 1>are fighting the revolutionary guards. And I think secondarily, I

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<v Speaker 1>think those people responsible for the mass murder of innocent

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to pay a price, and ultimately, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they'll be a change ran for the better and

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<v Speaker 1>there'll be peace in the region and we'll have a

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<v Speaker 1>partner with the Uranian people.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be the best outcome.

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely, Sean, I just fear that with that we might

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 8>end up in a situation like Afghanistan. We help the

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:13.880
<v Speaker 8>populace too, help.

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<v Speaker 3>Not Donald Trump. Not gonna happen. It will never happen.

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<v Speaker 8>No. What I mean is we help the populace prior

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<v Speaker 8>to the Soviet Union coming into Afghanistan, and then there

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.919
<v Speaker 8>we are thirty and forty late years later dealing with

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<v Speaker 8>our own firearms against us. That is what my concern

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 8>is for the long term.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's the type of weaponry that they're

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:38.159
<v Speaker 1>going to be providing people. If I had to guess. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not speaking from any point of knowledge here, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are people even within our movement that disagree with

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, and I'm perfectly fine with that. Everyone's

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:53.199
<v Speaker 1>entitled to their own opinion. But if you're asking me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Trump doctrine dreads the needle perfectly. I

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 1>think it is. You know, we can't have forever wars.

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>We can't put kids on the ground in Iraq, in

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<v Speaker 1>Afghanistan for twenty years, stepping over IEDs and all this crap. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do believe that we can strategically and surgically

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 1>use our military might and have effective change and offer

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:25.919
<v Speaker 1>solidarity and support when slaughter is happening before our eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe we have a moral imperative for that.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it's the beauty of America being in a

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<v Speaker 1>position to be able to do that. Anyway, I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the thoughtful I don't even think we really disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the thoughtful discussion. I really do. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, quick break right back to our busy phones

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and nine four one, Sean. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of the program as we continue.

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<v Speaker 9>The final hour of the Sean Hannity Show was up next,

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<v Speaker 9>hang on for Sean's conservative shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to our busy phones eight hundred nine

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<v Speaker 1>four one. Shawn our number, John in California, the United

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<v Speaker 1>Socialist utopia of Gavin Newsom.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up, John? How are you.

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<v Speaker 8>Happy New Years? Shawn?

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<v Speaker 10>No, I'm in the top third of California. It's a

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<v Speaker 10>whole different world. We're not part of the rest of

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<v Speaker 10>the state. Hey, that last, gentleman highlights something that I

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<v Speaker 10>wanted to talk to you about, because I think most

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<v Speaker 10>Americans have either forgotten or they don't realize that in

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<v Speaker 10>the sixties and seventies there were actually more mini skirts

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<v Speaker 10>in Iran than they were in the United States. That's

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<v Speaker 10>a country of one hundred million people.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait did you get that statistic from? I think it's funny,

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<v Speaker 1>But where'd you get it from?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, my point is that there are one hundred million

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<v Speaker 10>Westerners fighting for their freedom in Iran. This is not

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<v Speaker 10>like any of the other countries in the Mid East.

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<v Speaker 10>That's a westernized country. They want our products and goods,

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<v Speaker 10>the big pictures. This is truly the greatest White Swan

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<v Speaker 10>event of the twenty first century. It's the biggest geopolitical

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<v Speaker 10>event ever because that market of one hundred million people

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<v Speaker 10>will open up to American goods and services, and that

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<v Speaker 10>will be part of the alignment of influencing the oil

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<v Speaker 10>markets China against ninety percent of their oil from Iran.

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<v Speaker 10>With Venezuela and the South America situation unfolding.

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<v Speaker 8>This white swan.

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<v Speaker 10>These two white swans, the bigger one being around and

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<v Speaker 10>then the Venezuela South America component. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 10>the world changes dramatically. Hesbel and Hamas lose their funding.

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<v Speaker 8>This is so huge, but people don't.

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<v Speaker 10>Understand that's a Western country under the surface in Iran.

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<v Speaker 10>We're not going to have those factions of terrorists rising

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<v Speaker 10>back up.

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<v Speaker 8>That's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 10>We screwed up with the Shaw and the whole thing

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<v Speaker 10>in seventy eight to seventy nine with Carter Brazinski, the

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<v Speaker 10>Brits and the France. So there's all sorts of strange

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<v Speaker 10>reasons that never should have happened. We misread the whole

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<v Speaker 10>thing and we put these right through Hell and Iran

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<v Speaker 10>for forty seven years, and that's coming to an end because.

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<v Speaker 1>We are living through historic times. This is a geo

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<v Speaker 1>political realignment and earthquake the likes of which has not

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<v Speaker 1>happened since the fall of the Berlin Wall, maybe bigger

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<v Speaker 1>in scope. Good call, John, I appreciate it. Eight hundred

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