Speaker 1: Hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred and nine four one,
Speaker 1: Shawn our number. You want to be a part of
Speaker 1: the program. This is President Trump yesterday encouraging the protesters
Speaker 1: in Iran to keep protesting and that help is on
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 2: Here's what he said to all Iranian patriots, keep protesting,
Speaker 2: take over your institutions if possible, and save the name
Speaker 2: of the killers and the abusers that are abusing you.
Speaker 2: You're being very badly abused. Then I've canceled all meetings
Speaker 2: with the Iranian officials until the senseless killing of protesters stops.
Speaker 2: And all I say to them is help is on
Speaker 2: its way. You saw that I put tariffs on anybody
Speaker 2: doing business with Iran, just went into effect today, and
Speaker 2: I say, make I ran great again. You know, it
Speaker 2: was a great country until these monsters came in and
Speaker 2: took it over.
Speaker 1: Now this is seemingly getting worse by the day. The
Speaker 1: Iranian Revolutionary Guard forces have been out just slaughtering people.
Speaker 1: You have to imagine that President Trump means everything that
Speaker 1: he says. He doesn't make idle threats. That's one thing
Speaker 1: we know about the president and we have right now.
Speaker 1: What's happening is an evacuation. Very key personnel at key
Speaker 1: US military bases in the region, for example, at a
Speaker 1: Cutter have been advised to evacuate.
Speaker 3: That is now ongoing on an.
Speaker 1: Expedited basis, which would I think a pretty strong warning
Speaker 1: that something militarily may happen with the president. I've got
Speaker 1: to imagine there may be an attempt to get some
Speaker 1: type of arms into the hands of protesters. You can't
Speaker 1: win a revolution with a slingshot or a bottle or
Speaker 1: a brick. It's just not going to work. We have
Speaker 1: Bill Ackman put this out on x earlier today. I
Speaker 1: actually passed it on to Sean Current, the head of
Speaker 1: the Secret Service Islamic Republic State TV.
Speaker 3: He points out across the.
Speaker 1: Red line, airing the image of President Trump after the
Speaker 1: assassination attempt, along with a Persian message reading quote this
Speaker 1: time the bullet won't miss a direct threat against the president.
Speaker 1: Obviously here arranging leaders now are signaling that fast trials
Speaker 1: and executions the protesters are now beginning. We expected that
Speaker 1: first one to happen today. Haven't got confirmation. A twenty
Speaker 1: six year old expecting the security forces their crackdown has
Speaker 1: killed as many as twenty thousand people to date, so
Speaker 1: I would imagine help is on the way. But I
Speaker 1: think the President very wisely is putting the safety and
Speaker 1: security of Americans in the region first and getting them out.
Speaker 1: I know they've expedited that mission to date, and I
Speaker 1: would expect that the President means what he says. The
Speaker 1: very strong action against Iran and the regime you know
Speaker 1: is is about to happen. He wouldn't be telling the
Speaker 1: protesters to keep protesting otherwise. Joining us now is Amir Fakrovar.
Speaker 1: He's now teaching cooperative constitutional law at Texas State University.
Speaker 1: Author of the best selling book in Iran, Comrade Ayatola.
Speaker 1: He's also the National Iranian Congress Senate Chairman. Also joining
Speaker 1: us as Congressman Zach Nunn of Iowa, a member of
Speaker 1: the Four Country Caucus, which is Iraq and Iran veterans
Speaker 1: serving in the House. Thank you both for being here. Amir,
Speaker 1: let me start with you. What are you hearing from
Speaker 1: people on the ground. The images I'm seeing are just,
Speaker 1: you know, from a horror movie.
Speaker 3: They're horrific.
Speaker 4: Thank you. Thank you Sean for having me since last
Speaker 4: week when we spoke. We lost at least twenty thousand,
Speaker 4: very brave Iranians, the heroes. Yeah, regime have done another massacre.
Speaker 4: It's the largest one and in two days, in forty
Speaker 4: eight hours, they killed up to now we know the
Speaker 4: number is at least twenty thousand, and it will go
Speaker 4: up maybe to fifty thousand. You cannot hear such a
Speaker 4: thing in modern history. And it's we are all very
Speaker 4: worried about the people inside the country.
Speaker 5: Every single family they lost some family members, all of
Speaker 5: us which we are living in exile, ten million Iranians
Speaker 5: in exile. We have our family inside and all of
Speaker 5: us we lost some family members.
Speaker 4: It was a massacre, bloody massacre.
Speaker 5: Regime killed with drone, with the drone show Head drone,
Speaker 5: which IRGC gave two hundred twenty five hundreds of those
Speaker 5: drones to Russia to kill the Ukrainian civilians. They are
Speaker 5: you using right now those drones to kill the protesters
Speaker 5: in street. And just think about this tyranny, this brutal regime.
Speaker 5: They have thousands of missiles and they if they can
Speaker 5: kill their own people. Most of the people who have
Speaker 5: been killed, they are teenagers, they're very young, and if
Speaker 5: regime can kill them that easy, Oh, yes, they will
Speaker 5: use those ballistic missiles when they can breathe. Right now,
Speaker 5: they cannot breathe because with the heart sanctioned President Trump
Speaker 5: just got them. And if they can feel a little
Speaker 5: space to breathe, then regime definitely will go to hit Israel,
Speaker 5: will go to hit the European capitals, and they are
Speaker 5: planning with the help of China to hit New York, Florida, Morolago.
Speaker 4: And you have seen in the.
Speaker 5: Photo on Iranian state TV today which was widely broadcasted,
Speaker 5: that yes, this time we will not miss the target.
Speaker 5: In farce, it's in em that says the first assassination
Speaker 5: attempt was their job too. They're saying in Bard that
Speaker 5: means we did it before, we missed it. This time
Speaker 5: we will not miss it. And it's this regime definitely.
Speaker 5: President Trump should always when he said he's going to
Speaker 5: punish them, he should go and punish them. He should
Speaker 5: destroy entire Iranian missile facilities with the help of Israelis.
Speaker 5: And then we have some targets, Sean, we have some
Speaker 5: very clear targets that the US Army can attack. We
Speaker 5: are not talking about the boots on the ground, the
Speaker 5: beautiful b toos and F thirty five's and F forty seven.
Speaker 5: It can be the first mission. For F forty seven,
Speaker 5: they can go and target. It's called the Pastor Area
Speaker 5: in Tehran, in the capitol of Iran. The Pastor area
Speaker 5: is the different palaces of the King of Iran, the
Speaker 5: last King of Iran, which all the Mulahs. They are
Speaker 5: living in these palaces, including Mester's Supreme leader. This Pastor
Speaker 5: area is gated, very secure. The people cannot go there.
Speaker 5: Whoever lives in that area. Please President Trump, remember Pastor Area.
Speaker 5: Whoever lives there is either a mullahs, a killer or
Speaker 5: their minions around. Yeah, the best target is Pastor area.
Speaker 5: The Iranian missile facilities and the Homainies the founder of
Speaker 5: Islamic revolutions. His shrine is another very good target for America.
Speaker 5: To President Trump, needs to send the very strong target
Speaker 5: and Iranian State TV. Then they can understand they cannot
Speaker 5: come and send some this type of message to President
Speaker 5: of the United States.
Speaker 1: Congressman Zach Nunn, you're an American hero and you're now
Speaker 1: an elected member of Congress from Iowa, and you're with
Speaker 1: the Four Country Caucus, which is Iraq Iran veterans serving
Speaker 1: in the house. Your former Air Force intelligence officer deployed
Speaker 1: three times to the Middle East after nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: There, I guess.
Speaker 1: Among some people to some ambiguity. For me, I have
Speaker 1: pretty I have moral clarity on this. There's there's no
Speaker 1: doubt in my mind zero that the President did the
Speaker 1: right thing by taking out Iran's nuclear sites. Number one
Speaker 1: state sponsor of terror. They have threatened this country many,
Speaker 1: many times. If they ever got weapons of mass destruction
Speaker 1: coupled with their radical ideology, I think it is a
Speaker 1: clear and present danger to the entire world, never mind
Speaker 1: the region we're watching mass slaughter of individuals. I think
Speaker 1: the President's you know, the Trump doctrine, if you will,
Speaker 1: which is no forever wars, no boots on the grounds,
Speaker 1: I think is the perfect solution in this case. I
Speaker 1: think the President means what he says. The President is
Speaker 1: evacuating military personnel on bases nearby that the Iranians might
Speaker 1: be able to hit. Clearly something is on the way.
Speaker 1: What would be the right response in your view?
Speaker 6: Well, Sean, I think you were hitting this nail on
Speaker 6: the head, and I want to say, our heart is
Speaker 6: out to Amir, and you know his fellow warriors in
Speaker 6: Iran right now, Amir and I both you know. I
Speaker 6: saw at the Institute for World Politics here in DC
Speaker 6: for a while. But Sean, my head is with the
Speaker 6: President on this. He has approached this the absolute right way.
Speaker 6: I've flown out of that bass in guitar how ud
Speaker 6: Air his based fly in combat recont operations off the
Speaker 6: coast of Iran. The Iranians always threatening to shoot us
Speaker 6: down every single time. They have no problems coming after
Speaker 6: the United States. And here's the reality. Iran, just in
Speaker 6: the last years alone has been the number one funder
Speaker 6: to Hamas in Lebanon, to hesb Law in Lebanon and Gaza,
Speaker 6: as well as what the Huthi rebels have done by
Speaker 6: shooting at US area carrier strike groups, a rebel group
Speaker 6: taking potshots at US carriers, and the Biden administration doing
Speaker 6: nothing in response, embolden the Ayatola and the IRGC. And
Speaker 6: so when we talk about what we can do in
Speaker 6: response here, the President's approach is correct. First, I'm very
Speaker 6: proud in Congress that I'm leading the Iran maximum pressure campaign.
Speaker 6: It's put real economic sanctions, cut off their ghost sleep,
Speaker 6: stop their floil of oil to places like China where
Speaker 6: they get their money to fund the IRGC and keep
Speaker 6: the Ayatola in power. That is step one. But the
Speaker 6: President also made very clear. You know, I flew some
Speaker 6: of the first recommissions over Iraq that looked at Solamani,
Speaker 6: the IRGC commander, and President Trump in his first term
Speaker 6: turned Solimani into Slami when he eliminated him as the
Speaker 6: head of the IRGC. That's a very clear message to
Speaker 6: folks back and iron Yet President Trump was going to
Speaker 6: be different and so coming into his second term here
Speaker 6: to see the Iranian people rides up against an oppressive
Speaker 6: regime and to not only lend support, but to action
Speaker 6: economic sanctions against the Ayahtola to make sure that the
Speaker 6: IRGC is unnoticed that if they shoot innocent civilians as
Speaker 6: you have noted tragically in the back of the heads
Speaker 6: to the tune of tens of thousands being executed publicly
Speaker 6: and this.
Speaker 3: Have you seen the videos that I've seen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, tragically, tragically, yes, But the reality here is Sean, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I want you to explain in your words, because
Speaker 1: these are not images that will ever leave you in
Speaker 1: my view, That's why I can't air them on TV.
Speaker 1: I kids are watching my show. I don't want that
Speaker 1: that in their head for the rest of their life.
Speaker 6: Sean, you are absolutely right. We fly a recomplaint that
Speaker 6: listens to what's happening on the ground and to hear
Speaker 6: people screaming for their life as they are lined up
Speaker 6: and executed with shots to the back of the head.
Speaker 6: And these aren't just protesters. These are Iranians across one
Speaker 6: hundred and eighty different cities in all thirty one provinces,
Speaker 6: who have tried to stand up for basic survivability. And
Speaker 6: the Iranian people themselves are great, they are huge allies,
Speaker 6: they are huge potential partners with us in this region.
Speaker 6: But the reality is here. This country is under the
Speaker 6: iron grip of the IRGC, and this is where after
Speaker 6: what you and I have seen it, I guarantee the
Speaker 6: president has seen even worse. And so when he talks
Speaker 6: about taking tactical but lethal strikes, there are value add
Speaker 6: targets here in eliminating IRGC command. I don't want to
Speaker 6: bomb this country into the stone Age. I don't want
Speaker 6: to see boots on the ground. I want to see
Speaker 6: the biggest.
Speaker 1: Ohry For those that don't. You're talking about the Iranian
Speaker 1: Revolutionary Guard.
Speaker 6: That's right, Yeah, the IGC. There's two militaries effectively within Iran.
Speaker 6: Many know this. There's the Iranian military, which serves as
Speaker 6: basically just defense, and then there's the IRGC, which sponsors
Speaker 6: terrorism and tries to project Iran abroad. The reality here
Speaker 6: is protests alone are not going to be enough to
Speaker 6: destroy the Iyatola and the death that he's done. To
Speaker 6: hold him in check. The IRGC has to be clipped.
Speaker 6: And that's the safeguard not only for the Ironium people.
Speaker 6: It's a safeguard for the two thousand Iowa National Guards
Speaker 6: members from my home state who are deployed right now
Speaker 6: trying to protect you as interests abroad. It's a protection
Speaker 6: for Americans when there are IGC operations being carried out
Speaker 6: at our southern border in the United States and Sean.
Speaker 6: To your very acute point here, the IRGC has come
Speaker 6: up multiple times to try and recruit people to assassinate
Speaker 6: the President of the United States, President Trump. This is
Speaker 6: a regime that's intent on trying to topple our president
Speaker 6: and is hurting millions of folks the world over. Targeted
Speaker 6: strikes on the RGC are an effective way to clip
Speaker 6: their ability to harm the Iranian people, and ultimately, the
Speaker 6: Ironian people have to decide what their future is going
Speaker 6: to look like and how they're going.
Speaker 2: To do it.
Speaker 3: The US Committee and I'd like to see them get armed.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, if there's a way to get
Speaker 1: them armed so they can fight back. You can't win
Speaker 1: a revolution with a slingshot. Listen, I could talk to
Speaker 1: both of you forever. We're gonna probably have you back
Speaker 1: this week. But you know, thank you, Congressman for your
Speaker 1: service number one, and thanks for your passion and your
Speaker 1: clarity on all of this. Emir Fakrovar. We appreciate your passion,
Speaker 1: and we are praying for a speedy, you know, transformation.
Speaker 1: The death the slaughter has to stop. I wish I
Speaker 1: could share with everybody what I what I'm seeing. I
Speaker 1: wish I could. I can't, It's that bad. But I
Speaker 1: appreciate both of you a mere thank you, and Congressman,
Speaker 1: thank you. We appreciate you both, and we will have
Speaker 1: you back to talk more about this. This is a
Speaker 1: developing story as the President now has ordered troops in
Speaker 1: the region to come home, and that would tell me
Speaker 1: just the opposite of what some of you may think
Speaker 1: that probably some action is imminent. Quick break right back
Speaker 1: will continue on the other side. So Renee good the
Speaker 1: woman that went and reverse and then hit this officer.
Speaker 1: Now we updated earlier today that story because I think
Speaker 1: it's important that people understand that the officer in this
Speaker 1: particular case that oh the media has been saying never
Speaker 1: got hit. Well, it turns out he suffered internal bleeding
Speaker 1: after being clipped in that encounter. The ICE agent suffered
Speaker 1: the bleeding to his torso according to DHS officials, I'm
Speaker 1: sure that's going to be corroborated in the days and
Speaker 1: weeks ahead. Anyway, Renee's father, Tim Macklin is his name, apparently,
Speaker 1: was on fake News CNN last night.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I'm not blaming anybody. I mean, it's
Speaker 7: a hard situation all the way around. It's it's hard
Speaker 7: for the you know, for everybody involved. I mean the
Speaker 7: US agent. You know, at first, I didn't see the
Speaker 7: footage where you know, he was actually you know, he
Speaker 7: was actually been ran. I mean I seen the bump
Speaker 7: of the car hitting you know, hitting his legs, and
Speaker 7: so in a you know, in a flash like that,
Speaker 7: it's it's hard to say how you would react from
Speaker 7: my understanding that he had been through that before, maybe
Speaker 7: dragged or something, and so, uh, you know, like I said,
Speaker 7: it's just it's just a hard situation for everybody.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 7: You know Becca, you know it's she's a great person
Speaker 7: as well. I mean, you know, I don't have any
Speaker 7: many enemies. I love everybody, and and that's what the
Speaker 7: Bible tells us, what our neighbors as we love ourselves.
Speaker 7: But you know, I think there's some bad choices and
Speaker 7: the word says for the raptid God would come up
Speaker 7: on the turn of disobedience, and you know it's it's Uh,
Speaker 7: I don't blame us. I don't blame Rebecca. I don't
Speaker 7: blame Renee. I just you know, I just wish that
Speaker 7: you know, if if a walking the spirit of God,
Speaker 7: I don't think she would have been there. That's that's
Speaker 7: why I look at it.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 1: No, you just you can't take a car which is
Speaker 1: a weapon, and the law backs up, the law enforcement
Speaker 1: backs up law enforcement. Uh, on the legal merits and
Speaker 1: use it as a weapon and drive and accelerate towards
Speaker 1: an officer. And now that we have more details about
Speaker 1: his injuries, I think that puts to rest any notion
Speaker 1: that the officer was not hit. Anyway, let's get to
Speaker 1: our busy phones. Brandon, Missouri, Brandon, how are you glad
Speaker 1: you called?
Speaker 3: Thanks for checking in, Thanks for taking my call, Sean.
Speaker 8: Is what a touch point here on the Iran situation
Speaker 8: that we have gone on in our involvement with that.
Speaker 8: I really don't think we belong over there, involved deeply
Speaker 8: in that. I know we have talked about limited capabilities,
Speaker 8: but in involvement in that, but I don't know how
Speaker 8: limited limited is. I mean we talk in sending some
Speaker 8: of our protesters in Minneapolis and Portland over there to
Speaker 8: help out, or what are we talking about here?
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: The number one state sponsor of terror over the years,
Speaker 1: they have killed Americans, They've threatened America many many times.
Speaker 1: And you know they are a geopolitical enemy. We know
Speaker 1: the work of Solo money that we know they killed
Speaker 1: Americans in Iraq. Do you think it was the wrong
Speaker 1: call for President Trump to take out the nuclear facilities?
Speaker 1: Do you think it was in our long term national
Speaker 1: strategic America first interest to prevent that right radical ideology
Speaker 1: from ever having weapons of mass destruction like.
Speaker 8: Nuclear weapons agreed, showing yes I do.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, there are a number of other questions. Here,
Speaker 1: is it in our long term national interest America first interest,
Speaker 1: if this regime were to go away?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 8: Absolutely, yes, I think it would be great.
Speaker 3: Kay, all right, fair enough?
Speaker 1: So if the president Now, I don't think it's an
Speaker 1: accident what we're witnessing and what we're watching out of
Speaker 1: the Mid East. And I mentioned at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the program today that you have Islamic Republic State TV
Speaker 1: airing an image of President Trump after the assassination attempting Butler,
Speaker 1: along with a Persian message reading quote this time the
Speaker 1: bullet won't miss. Bill Lackman put that out on X Today,
Speaker 1: a direct threat against the president. But we do know
Speaker 1: that the Iranians have threatened death to America, death to Israel, so.
Speaker 3: On and so forth.
Speaker 1: So if you know it doesn't mean that what might
Speaker 1: replace it. I don't think you can get much worse
Speaker 1: than what we have there. Here's another question. And I
Speaker 1: know we can't be the world's policeman, but when you
Speaker 1: see twenty thousand people and maybe the numbers upwards of that, now,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and we're only getting scattered reports on this.
Speaker 1: When you see a mass slaughter of people and with
Speaker 1: the might of America, should we just sit back and
Speaker 1: do nothing? Should we just let these people get slaughtered?
Speaker 1: Or good America use it's military as a force for
Speaker 1: humanitarian good at times when possible to save lives, because
Speaker 1: that's what that's part of the equation here too.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Sean, I don't think this is an either or situation.
Speaker 8: I think this.
Speaker 1: Is it kind of is either we're going to help
Speaker 1: or we're not, one or the other. It really is
Speaker 1: either or.
Speaker 8: I say that we help, I agree with that, but
Speaker 8: to what context. I mean we you know, are we
Speaker 8: talking about sending arms over there?
Speaker 1: You know, the United Yeah, I think that if I
Speaker 1: had to guess what's going to happen, and you see
Speaker 1: that President Trump now is we have been pulling out.
Speaker 1: Our forces are from bases all over the region so
Speaker 1: that our military won't be you know, sitting ducks and
Speaker 1: targets there. The President has said help is on the way.
Speaker 1: Do I think arming the city of Iran as part
Speaker 1: of the equation will be part of the equation. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: But I don't think the President gives idle threats either
Speaker 1: when he says help is on the way to you.
Speaker 8: No, I do not. And I think that's actually something
Speaker 8: that we need to push more for, is the people
Speaker 8: taking back their independence themselves. It means a lot more
Speaker 8: to the populace when they gain their right for existence
Speaker 8: or democracy than it is just handed to them. They
Speaker 8: cherish it and they will fight for it more.
Speaker 1: I agree in principle. I wish all of that were true.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. You have a population that is completely unarmed.
Speaker 1: You're not going to win a revolution with a slingshot,
Speaker 1: a Molotov cocktail and a rock.
Speaker 3: That's not how it works.
Speaker 1: When you're going up against the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and
Speaker 1: a ruthless regime that puts no value on human life.
Speaker 3: And that's what we're dealing with here.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, and I guess I would ask where are
Speaker 8: allies in this sean?
Speaker 3: I mean, really, far as I'm concerned, they're useless.
Speaker 1: I've all but pretty much given up hope on NATO
Speaker 1: and Europe and their ability to be an effective fighting force.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can see the open contempt that people
Speaker 1: like Vladimir Putin have now. Putin fears Trump, he doesn't
Speaker 1: fear Europe and that's because they have allowed themselves to disintegrate, deteriorate.
Speaker 1: And you know, when Great Britain has eighty some on
Speaker 1: Cheria courts and they're not insisting on assimilation within their
Speaker 1: own society and among people they're allowing into their country,
Speaker 1: they want to be separate and apart from the people
Speaker 1: of Great Britain. I think that's a big mistake. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, I think we've actually come to an understanding.
Speaker 1: I think I've kind of brought you more to my
Speaker 1: side here. I don't want forever wars. Now, this is
Speaker 1: what the beauty of the Trump doctrine to me is
Speaker 1: no forever war, no boots on the ground, surgical strikes,
Speaker 1: but also the the need and moral imperative to act
Speaker 1: on threats and act on you know, just pure evil
Speaker 1: in our time. I mean, if the world, the world
Speaker 1: in many ways turned a blind eye, I think you
Speaker 1: would agree to a lot of the atrocities that were
Speaker 1: going on in Nazi Germany and the world acted too late.
Speaker 3: Would you agree with that?
Speaker 8: Yes? I would. I would also believe that that during
Speaker 8: that time, I don't believe it is publicized that we
Speaker 8: didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 3: Oh, we the world knew.
Speaker 1: Actually a lot of the world knew and was was
Speaker 1: there are too many people were keenly aware they were.
Speaker 3: It was not. It didn't.
Speaker 1: It did not go unnoticed what was happening. But I'd say, here,
Speaker 1: now we do know what's happening, and trust me, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want American treasure, our sons and daughters at
Speaker 1: risk and harm's way. However, I think we have to
Speaker 1: be strategic and long term in our thinking and our law,
Speaker 1: long term strategic goals. That's why taking out their nuclear sites,
Speaker 1: to me was moral imperative. And there are some people
Speaker 1: that have interpreted the Trump doctrine to mean isolationism. I'm
Speaker 1: not an isolationist, and I do believe that America, when possible,
Speaker 1: if it sees slaughter and death, like for example, you
Speaker 1: know the murder of Christians in Nigeria, President Trump acted
Speaker 1: on Christmas Day, of all days, that was the Christmas
Speaker 1: President to Christians in Nigeria because they were being slaughtered.
Speaker 1: And I think the president here we see a mass slaughter,
Speaker 1: the President is saying, don't stop. Help is on the way,
Speaker 1: and I think that help will manifest itself in numerous ways.
Speaker 1: Not the least of which is arming the people that
Speaker 1: are fighting the revolutionary guards. And I think secondarily, I
Speaker 1: think those people responsible for the mass murder of innocent
Speaker 1: people are going to pay a price, and ultimately, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they'll be a change ran for the better and
Speaker 1: there'll be peace in the region and we'll have a
Speaker 1: partner with the Uranian people.
Speaker 3: That would be the best outcome.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, Sean, I just fear that with that we might
Speaker 8: end up in a situation like Afghanistan. We help the
Speaker 8: populace too, help.
Speaker 3: Not Donald Trump. Not gonna happen. It will never happen.
Speaker 8: No. What I mean is we help the populace prior
Speaker 8: to the Soviet Union coming into Afghanistan, and then there
Speaker 8: we are thirty and forty late years later dealing with
Speaker 8: our own firearms against us. That is what my concern
Speaker 8: is for the long term.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the type of weaponry that they're
Speaker 1: going to be providing people. If I had to guess. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking from any point of knowledge here, but
Speaker 1: there are people even within our movement that disagree with
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and I'm perfectly fine with that. Everyone's
Speaker 1: entitled to their own opinion. But if you're asking me,
Speaker 1: I think the Trump doctrine dreads the needle perfectly. I
Speaker 1: think it is. You know, we can't have forever wars.
Speaker 1: We can't put kids on the ground in Iraq, in
Speaker 1: Afghanistan for twenty years, stepping over IEDs and all this crap. No,
Speaker 1: but I do believe that we can strategically and surgically
Speaker 1: use our military might and have effective change and offer
Speaker 1: solidarity and support when slaughter is happening before our eyes.
Speaker 1: I do believe we have a moral imperative for that.
Speaker 1: For me, it's the beauty of America being in a
Speaker 1: position to be able to do that. Anyway, I really
Speaker 1: appreciate the thoughtful I don't even think we really disagree.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the thoughtful discussion. I really do. I think
Speaker 1: it's important.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: All right, quick break right back to our busy phones
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Speaker 1: Let's get back to our busy phones eight hundred nine
Speaker 1: four one. Shawn our number, John in California, the United
Speaker 1: Socialist utopia of Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 3: What's up, John? How are you.
Speaker 8: Happy New Years? Shawn?
Speaker 10: No, I'm in the top third of California. It's a
Speaker 10: whole different world. We're not part of the rest of
Speaker 10: the state. Hey, that last, gentleman highlights something that I
Speaker 10: wanted to talk to you about, because I think most
Speaker 10: Americans have either forgotten or they don't realize that in
Speaker 10: the sixties and seventies there were actually more mini skirts
Speaker 10: in Iran than they were in the United States. That's
Speaker 10: a country of one hundred million people.
Speaker 1: Wait did you get that statistic from? I think it's funny,
Speaker 1: But where'd you get it from?
Speaker 10: Well, my point is that there are one hundred million
Speaker 10: Westerners fighting for their freedom in Iran. This is not
Speaker 10: like any of the other countries in the Mid East.
Speaker 10: That's a westernized country. They want our products and goods,
Speaker 10: the big pictures. This is truly the greatest White Swan
Speaker 10: event of the twenty first century. It's the biggest geopolitical
Speaker 10: event ever because that market of one hundred million people
Speaker 10: will open up to American goods and services, and that
Speaker 10: will be part of the alignment of influencing the oil
Speaker 10: markets China against ninety percent of their oil from Iran.
Speaker 10: With Venezuela and the South America situation unfolding.
Speaker 8: This white swan.
Speaker 10: These two white swans, the bigger one being around and
Speaker 10: then the Venezuela South America component. All of a sudden,
Speaker 10: the world changes dramatically. Hesbel and Hamas lose their funding.
Speaker 8: This is so huge, but people don't.
Speaker 10: Understand that's a Western country under the surface in Iran.
Speaker 10: We're not going to have those factions of terrorists rising
Speaker 10: back up.
Speaker 8: That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 10: We screwed up with the Shaw and the whole thing
Speaker 10: in seventy eight to seventy nine with Carter Brazinski, the
Speaker 10: Brits and the France. So there's all sorts of strange
Speaker 10: reasons that never should have happened. We misread the whole
Speaker 10: thing and we put these right through Hell and Iran
Speaker 10: for forty seven years, and that's coming to an end because.
Speaker 1: We are living through historic times. This is a geo
Speaker 1: political realignment and earthquake the likes of which has not
Speaker 1: happened since the fall of the Berlin Wall, maybe bigger
Speaker 1: in scope. Good call, John, I appreciate it. Eight hundred
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