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Speaker 2: You know, another day, y'all got practiced. Hell yeah, I

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Speaker 2: guess the biggest news today, bro, is the guy Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk got shot today. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've been seeing it all over the news.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of has been the talk of the day.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: You know, he was sitting out at the rally in Utah, man,

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Speaker 2: and got shot in the neck. While I don't think

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Speaker 2: people should get killed for having an opinion. I definitely

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Speaker 2: don't think people should get murdered to lose their life

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Speaker 2: for having an opinion, right, But well, you convey a

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Speaker 2: certain type of energy. You have to expect whatever.

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Speaker 1: Comes with Yeah, you know, consequences as a motherfucker, you know, and.

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Speaker 3: People with their political values and they way of thinking,

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Speaker 3: you know, sometimes it up it uh really affects other

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Speaker 3: should be or.

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Speaker 1: Vice versa, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So it's unfortunate that shit like that happens for having

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Speaker 3: an opinion. Like you said, everybody's title to their opinion.

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Speaker 3: But unfortunately that's just how it worked.

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Speaker 2: You know what though, in my stance on this that

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Speaker 2: their life had an opinion. But I can name so

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Speaker 2: many instances, man, just in the past five or six months,

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Speaker 2: now some of these instances I don't know that That's

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Speaker 2: particulars of it. But I saw a brother just the

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Speaker 2: You know, no, Now, some shootings aren't justified. You have

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Speaker 1: I don't do all that because somebody can probably hurt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for real? You know what, though, this brings up

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Speaker 2: another point. Gun control has been a really really big

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Speaker 2: And I have two trainings that thought that.

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Speaker 1: Man, me being the guy that owns guns.

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Speaker 2: Several of them, I believe that me, as a law

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Speaker 2: But should there be limits placed on stuff? You know,

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Speaker 3: I guess it's on that. I guess it's on me.

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Speaker 3: In ten of what are you planning on doing with

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Speaker 3: in three, four or five years as going on and

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Speaker 1: Weapons a month. Now you got a hundred weapons in

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Speaker 3: That's gonna probably cause raise alarm with some people. Like

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Speaker 3: So that raises a sin with motherfuckers. I'm an avid collector,

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Speaker 1: Months and shites.

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Speaker 3: It causes hysteria among people, especially I'm a law Biden citizen.

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Speaker 1: But you also you.

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Speaker 3: Know a black man who has had ties to the streets,

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Speaker 3: What fuckers get curious and shit, then they want to

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Speaker 1: You know you feel me because a nigga was a

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Speaker 3: I got a thousand guns in here, and I got

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Speaker 2: This is what I firmly believe though, Bro, as you know,

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Speaker 1: And I feel like this that.

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Speaker 2: Until if the balance is tipped to things being equally fair. Now,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty rounds. You feel what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: They they got some real bananas. You feel what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: they got some real high capacity magazines. They don't have

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Speaker 2: the limits on their guns without app like out here

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna be at a disadvantage. You're getting to

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Speaker 1: A new magazine. So I think that in lou of all.

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Speaker 2: These guns, I think in lieu of them doing things

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Speaker 2: may I got so many guns, man, it don't matter.

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Speaker 2: I don't need nothing because, like you said, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: shoot one at a time, right, Right, I'm somewhat of

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Speaker 2: a gun collector. Though right, I'm somewhat of a gun collector.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this, as long as they have people

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Speaker 2: that you got some people, some idiots that go out

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Speaker 2: the problem, the mental health problems we gotta. You're right,

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Speaker 1: Who's to say, man, that some of this shit ain't

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Speaker 3: And you've had you don't You've had cases of shit

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Speaker 3: This is why we make the rap records and Trumps

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Speaker 3: still crazy when you know, motherfuckers are praised for being

437
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 3: one sided when the agenda has always turned the other

438
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 3: cheek for motherfuckers like us, and you know this didn't happen,

439
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: and you know that happened four hundred years ago and

440
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,479
Speaker 3: all this other shit. But then you got motherfuckers who

441
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 3: still pulling agendas to make us. Every mind us of

442
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: Nigga ain't got there. They ain't really changed.

443
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: You still need it hasn't and you know that thing, yels.

444
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 2: And I'm being sincere when I say this man, the

445
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: man got shot in front of his family, He got

446
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: shot in front of his wife and children. Right, the

447
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: person that did that shit needs to go to jail. Right,

448
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,479
Speaker 2: But there have been plenty of but said have been

449
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: murdered in front of our mothers, wives, are children.

450
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: They don't want to take you back to that ship.

451
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 3: I want to hear about that ship. Niggas was getting

452
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 3: hanged and beaten in front of their motherfucking families and

453
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: taking the jail or stomped out or killed about motherfucking

454
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 3: police in the back country roads and all that.

455
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: They don't want to be. They don't want to hear

456
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: about that ship. Don't let that shit do.

457
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm gonna tell you this, bro, I have

458
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: plenty of I wouldn't call myself prejudice right, because I

459
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: don't believe you should judge people on their race. I

460
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 2: think you should judge people on who.

461
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: They are, right.

462
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 2: But I've had things that have happened to me as

463
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: a young man that shaped my opinion to form my opinion.

464
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: I remember my father. I remember my father taking me

465
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: home from visiting him on the weekend.

466
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: Man.

467
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 2: He had a white girlfriend at that time. I remember

468
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: the police pulling them over. I remember this VI police

469
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: pulling them over before in the fraction she was driving,

470
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 2: and them snashing my father off the car and kind

471
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: of touching them up a little bit right the I'm

472
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: talking about slamming them against the car and doing this

473
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: what you're doing, ma'am?

474
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: Are you all right? Are you okay? Is he forcing

475
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: you to be in there? Right? I've seen all that first,

476
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: hed man.

477
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: So for people to sit up here and say, like, oh, well,

478
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 2: you know, critical race theory should be eliminated in the

479
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: classroom because you know there's no such thing as systemic racism.

480
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be this way. No, you want to be

481
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 2: made to feel good for yourself. This is you for

482
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: your own You want the benefit of not hearing about

483
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: that because you don't want to feel bad about it.

484
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: You feel like it should be pressed under the rug

485
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: because in your mind everything is fair and equal. Right know,

486
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 2: everything is not fair and equal. I'm gonna tell you this,

487
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 2: Donald Trump right now, man, Not that I don't even

488
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: like speaking on politics, because all these motherfuckers is for

489
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: the shit right now, right Donald Trump, eliminating a whole

490
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 2: bunch of them programs, man, are hurting people right now.

491
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: There are people losing jobs right now as we speak.

492
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: There are certain people who won't be able to get opportunities,

493
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: who may not get opportunity right because sometimes you have

494
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: to force a motherfucker to do right. That's just where

495
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: we're at in this country. You got to force certain

496
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: people to do certain things right. So I think that

497
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: it's about to get ugly, man. And you see certain situations,

498
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: like people that may have voted for a certain way

499
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: right now they getting stuff that's happening to them and

500
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: they feel like, oh, man, I can't believe it's happened

501
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: to me. Like I saw some guy that wasn't allowed

502
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: to cross back over from Canada because he had the

503
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: criminal record, and he was one of them people who

504
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: was a Magia supporter. So now when it started happening,

505
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: and you don't feel so good no more. Right, See,

506
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something. I ain't never no fun

507
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: when a motherfucking rabbit got the gun.

508
00:27:59,400 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: People do.

509
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, like I said, coming from coming from

510
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: you know what I've seen and experienced in life as

511
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: a youth and a police and just trying to or

512
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: you know, make a way of living and life. You know,

513
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: like I said, there's a lot of shit man, that

514
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 3: I avoid and try not to get into because.

515
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: Everybody's not gonna agree with shit.

516
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: And and that's just the case.

517
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: Of what happened the home boy today.

518
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: You know, who knows how long a motherfucker has been

519
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: blocking for this day to happen, you know, because I'm

520
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: pretty sure on this has been planned out, you know,

521
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: you know it. It's just not a It's not just

522
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 3: a random act where a motherfucker just felt like I'm

523
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: gonna wake up today and go shoot the motherfucker. You

524
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: feel me, this was an all setup. So you have

525
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: to wonder what the what the feelings or the people

526
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: and they share, like I have to do this shit.

527
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: I don't know whether it's mental state, whether your status,

528
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: whether you feel like this motherfucker is just wrong for

529
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: the for for for the world. You get me, like,

530
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: you know, just this motherfucker's just not hate like and

531
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: and the crazy shit about it is.

532
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: In today's day and age, you can.

533
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: Be put on these platforms to where like you know,

534
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: you used to have to be in your in your

535
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: in your motherfucking bottom basement with a couple of motherfucking

536
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: you know, crazy motherfuckers in and considerate flags on the

537
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: wall in your basement and doing shit like that in

538
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: private meetings.

539
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: You got platform today. You get me.

540
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: Nigga's counting is just as big as the next motherfucking

541
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: famous podcast or internet sensation. So Motherfuckernna push is a

542
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: jit than that. So, like I said, you have to

543
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: you have to. Niggas can say they in no fear

544
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 3: of retaliation of what the other motherfucker's opinion might be.

545
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: But when you get to that status and your opinions

546
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 3: or something that jeopardizes the well being of the American

547
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: people and certain people who don't believe in your rhetoric,

548
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: you've got to understanding that you're putting yourself in target.

549
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: You get danger to you. It's happened to you know,

550
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: it's happened to motherfuckers that we love, you know, the Martins,

551
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: the Alcoms.

552
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: You get me.

553
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: You know motherfuckers who who stood for all political rights

554
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: and agendas and what we needed.

555
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: Niggas was smoking there.

556
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: You feel me, So you gotta understand like it's it's it's.

557
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: Gonna it's gonna be the same ship.

558
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: You know, you got more got groups and people who

559
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: think just like now, Man, I can't let this motherfucker

560
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: keep talking or keep broadcasting, or keep podcasting and just

561
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: drilling this shit into their minds of motherfucking you know,

562
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: you young motherfucking mind can be manipulated really easy.

563
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: You feel me, That's what I'm saying. And what he

564
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: with words and the ship.

565
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: Look how crazy these young motherfuckers go over niggas with

566
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: these rap cuts and songs and shit. Motherfuckers be just

567
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 3: you know, fans. And you know, man, you got the

568
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: same ship with more fuckers like them.

569
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: But he gleaching that ship.

570
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: He preaching that ship to you, preaching that ship, and

571
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: you sitting in that home and you're listening and listening.

572
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: He's watching videos and why hearing motherfucking conversations and oh man,

573
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 3: that motherfucker drilling man, you turning that braid you give me?

574
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: Who knows?

575
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: You're seeing more people? You seen people being more in

576
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: boom right now. I'm not seeing it that didn't happen before,

577
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: but you're seeing it more in the wide open and

578
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: where you got people going over people's house just to

579
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: do work and white people coming outside.

580
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: Get off my property, nigger, what you want some? You

581
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: want some of this?

582
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: And I'm seeing this stuff online and I'm like, wow, man,

583
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: this stuff used to be kind of concealed. Now people

584
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: are just like, dude, that's a chance. Now you may

585
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: be in the grocery store. You may you may be

586
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 2: just shopping for your for your gram strites and not

587
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: paying attention to somebody, and you may have a confrontation

588
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: with somebody.

589
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 3: It's it's a catch twenty two because it works in

590
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: both ways.

591
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: It's good for the fact that.

592
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: Now shit can be recorded, so a motherfucker's lie can

593
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: be put on front street, and you know, you can

594
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: show that motherfuckers are crazy and it ain't. You just

595
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: can't take the word off what a motherfuckers say. Now

596
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 3: I got video and carc But then like you said

597
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: in in the other hand, it it fires motherfuckers out

598
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: where it gives people the platform to push they line

599
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 3: and show they idiocracy and shit like that, and show

600
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: how motherfuckers could be dumb and crazy. And then you know,

601
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: two towns old and some motherfucker who thinking just like

602
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: that or feel just like that, You get me and

603
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: then three old with some motherfuckers.

604
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: So now they're getting to connect.

605
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: And now you've got all these motherfuckers who feel in

606
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: the same way in one area. So like I said,

607
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: it's good, then it's bad because of the it exposes motherfuckers.

608
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: When a motherfucker catch a nigga's Front Street live shit.

609
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: You know, Oh, I didn't do nothing and they attacked

610
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: me first, and I'm just the boar, innocent motherfucker bullshit

611
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 3: niggas here all on camera. But then again, it gives

612
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: motherfuckers the line to push that agenda. So you gotta

613
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: be careful with this shit. It's just fucked up because

614
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: like you said, now it Tori gets a lot of

615
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: the youth and you have to be able to You

616
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: gotta be able to be a strong, mother fucking handed

617
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: parent in these days because kids will turned and they

618
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: be influenced by shit, and you'll never know what your

619
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: motherfucking son or daughter or you know, niece, nephew, grandkids

620
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: is in there watching and listening to. You know, it

621
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 3: could be dangerous for a motherfucker.

622
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: You know where they like I say, you never know

623
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: what kind of conspiracy is behind this. Because this man

624
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: was in Utah. You know Utah. The majority of Utah

625
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: is majority white. Right of course there would have been

626
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: if some people out there, man that want to kick

627
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 2: off something, they want to kick off this great They

628
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: have in their mind that there needs to be a

629
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: great day of reckoning. There needs to be a praise

630
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 2: for and there are people getting prepared for that, right.

631
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: Who's to say that they think that that moment them

632
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 2: doing this may spark a race more, maybe the spark

633
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: that starts a revolution of something. I'm gonna tell you,

634
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: I saw this movie. Man, it was really good trip.

635
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: It was Niggas ain't gonna suckers no more. That's the

636
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: whole problem. You can start what you want to start,

637
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: and hopefully that's just rhetoricular don't close to that. But

638
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: niggas ain't. Niggas ain't unprepared like back in the days

639
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 3: you see me, I don't get niggas is too Niggas

640
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: is too prepared for anything today with what we've been doing,

641
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: what we see and what we're able to access, and

642
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: and and and uh be accredited to ship.

643
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: We were taking the most ship. Now you're giving me.

644
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: Now you can try to push agenda to make people

645
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: feel like, oh, let's make this motherfucker martyr, you know,

646
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: let's let's pop the off and then that's gonna make

647
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: all of the motherfuckers who followed him just getting this

648
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: uproar over his beliefs and push his line. But don't

649
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: think that motherfuckern sitt off of bullshit because niggas ain't

650
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: shitting out from them bullshit. You know, that's just it.

651
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: So in your lines, you know one what you want

652
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: to do, but shit, you don't catch plenty. You donna

653
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: catch plenty of fades around this motherfucker before a nigga

654
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: think we gonna let you motherfucking push some motherfucker race

655
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 3: war agenda of thinking that this kind is better than

656
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: this kind. Nigga, we whooping asses today. That's especially what

657
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 3: we're doing.

658
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something, man, too, has to go down.

659
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: We gotta change our mindset. And I think I'm starting

660
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: to see a difference now. You let me know if

661
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, man, But I think there are always gonna

662
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: be some form of gangs in the neighborhood, right, You

663
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: always have groups of people. But here in that lay

664
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: I'm specific. I'm seeing certain projects get toward all right,

665
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: and certain communities kind of beat this mantal, people moving

666
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: out to the getting pushed out to the Antelope Valley

667
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: into the in the Empire and.

668
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: Stuff like that. So some of these neighborhoods ain't even

669
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: there no more, you know, like they're trying to grace

670
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I get it. The neighborhoods, you know, have

671
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 3: which we have got a bad reputation with the neighborhoods,

672
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: and how you know, a lot of us, you know,

673
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 3: manage the neighborhoods and what we represented and tried to

674
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 3: you feel, you know, that we felt.

675
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: Like was being honorable to where we grew up.

676
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: I guess trying to dismantle that makes them feel like

677
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 3: they can break up the neighborhoods or whatever was. But

678
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 3: niggas are still going to claim what they claim and represent.

679
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: Whether you've moved me the motherfucking jim bucktoo, or you

680
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 3: moved me around the corner. Some niggas just still have

681
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: that embedded in their hearts and their programs now, or

682
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: they're out doing the same grace dumb shit as a

683
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 3: youth that was happening, you know when they first started

684
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: claiming the set. Probably not, but you know, niggas are

685
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: always gonna be official from where they was from now

686
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: as far as to the city and the mayors and

687
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: the councilmen and the people who want to break up

688
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: the neighborhoods and the sections and try to relocate motherfuckers

689
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 3: because they feeling like you know, we got to relocate niggas,

690
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: and we're tired of having a band rap with the

691
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 3: city and the name and the neighborhoods, So let's try

692
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: to dismantle some of this shit. They still turn it

693
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: into nothing, you feel me. It's not like they're doing

694
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,479
Speaker 3: anything astronomical with the neighborhoods. When they're tearing these places down,

695
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: relocating families who have been around for generations, you don't

696
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 3: see any motherfucking real progress by doing that shit. Niggas

697
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: are still around the corner getting shot, selling dope and

698
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: doing what they have to do. A bar whether you

699
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: tell this motherfucker, Darren, I got to move around the

700
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 3: street and come every other day to go to the

701
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: port that well we used to hang out.

702
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: I mean, like, what are you gonna do? You show me? Yeah,

703
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one. This is this is how I feel, man.

704
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: I think games has always been a result of systemic racism.

705
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: I believe that gangs have been a result of communities

706
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 2: trying to protect themselves, you know, trying to protect themselves

707
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 2: community revolutionary and progress, right, And I think that I

708
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: think it's one of those things, man. I think in

709
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: some instances, every neighborhood in America, got you know, you

710
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: can you can call anybody a gang, right, you know,

711
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: a gang is just a you know, a group of

712
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: people that are gathered, you know, from the same community. Right,

713
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: they share the same ideologies or whatever. Right, it ain't

714
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: always all just. I think that right now, what we're

715
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: looking at is, I think people are starting to become

716
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: a lot more conscious. I mean, you know, this black

717
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: man next to me is not my enemy. He's not

718
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: the calls of me going through the thing, you know,

719
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 2: to the problems I'm having, right, And I think we're

720
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: gonna start seeing the shift. I think we're gonna start

721
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: seeing the shift because I'm starting to hear a lot

722
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 2: of people really just you know, kind of evolved and

723
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: move out the stuff.

724
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: Now.

725
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: I think it's just a sign of natural maturity, Right,

726
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: You're not gonna think the same way that you did

727
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: when you were thirteen. You gotta remember when games first started.

728
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: You talk about little kids started gangs. Man, It wasn't

729
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: adults that started games. Games were formed by little fourteen

730
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: to sixteen year old kids exactly, you know, So of course,

731
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: of course the mind state is gonna happen like that.

732
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 2: Ringham Washington has started to critch all was he.

733
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: When he died? I can't even jail you. He was

734
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 3: young when he died old there.

735
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: Oh no, he wasn't.

736
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: You know, he didn't get to live you know, he

737
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: didn't get to live that that long life. Like you know,

738
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: we've been privileged to live to we're life. You know,

739
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: we're in our we're in our upper ages now. And uh,

740
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: thank god that we was able to survive, you know,

741
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 3: like you say, out of the five the South Central.

742
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 3: But unfortunately there were a lot of us who didn't.

743
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: You get me, and especially if you came from that

744
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: walk of life. In the early days of establishing some

745
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 3: games and you know, niggas trying to you know, make

746
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: their neighborhoods and they sets and they section motherfucking you know,

747
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: valuable and that that claimed to be the number one

748
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: or the viciousest motherfucking hood or whatever. A lot of

749
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: niggas lost their lives throughout the years and didn't make it.

750
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: You know, we we've had make us killed as young

751
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: as twelve e leftn you know, in this gang shit.

752
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: So it's it's.

753
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 3: It's fortunate for those who have made it, who have

754
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: able to being able to change their lives and do

755
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 3: something positive, especially coming from that walk of life. And

756
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: it was unfortunate that some of us got caught up

757
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 3: and we're still doing prison time and we're still paying

758
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: the depths of you know, you know of what gang

759
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 3: banging cost.

760
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you this eight because I don't

761
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 2: gang bang right, never had. Do you think that gang

762
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,479
Speaker 2: banging is glorified a little too much?

763
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's I don't want to put drill,

764
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 3: I don't want to put glorified. But in this day

765
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 3: and age, it is different. It's different ways of how

766
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 3: game banging was perceived in my days. Today, you know

767
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: a lot of the young homies or running through the

768
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: neighborhoods and they have their own perspective of how they

769
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: feel they should represent the neighborhood in the games.

770
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: You know, we have a lot of shootings, we have

771
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: a lot of killings. We got a lot of rap.

772
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 3: Beef, and you know niggas who getting on the mics

773
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 3: from their sections and who representing on that scale.

774
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: And it's not just friendly banter like it was back

775
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: in my days.

776
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: It's serious shit, you know, like here's his niggas's nigga

777
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 3: come through and will smoke you and we getting and

778
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 3: name the names.

779
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

780
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: So today, you know, with it being to the aspect

781
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 3: of you know, his.

782
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: Videos and its content and it's you know, it's.

783
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: Generating more you know, revenue if you are beefing with

784
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: a nigga, because motherfuckers want to go by the beef

785
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 3: tapes and they want to see the videos. So it's

786
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: at a certain aspect today to where I think it's monopolized.

787
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: More than you know what I'm saying.

788
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: You can make money if you pushing the line of

789
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 3: being that real nigga and blasting over a nigga and

790
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: did some tewan and nkign. You know, niggas want to

791
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 3: come along if you're the next motherfucking rapper, they want

792
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 3: to exploit that. Yeah, because it was gang banging back

793
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 3: in my days and started rapping.

794
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: They hated it.

795
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: They fear because they feared it because they knew what

796
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 3: niggas was in the streets on. Like not to say

797
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: that niggas ain't on that shit today because like I said,

798
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: you see niggas killing and doornate thing whatever, but they

799
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: were they were scared to invite that shit until they

800
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: liver rooms into their board rooms because they know that

801
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 3: game Bay is shit. And you saw movies like Colors

802
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 3: and saw the news every other day of drive by

803
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: killings and all that shit.

804
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: They was fucking scared of that shit. Scared as ill.

805
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: Look, but oh shit, little b bot nigga got a

806
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: million followers on Instagram.

807
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: Come right here, let's give you.

808
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: A million dollar deal, and here you go and being gone, well,

809
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: whatever you may please, because they gonna turn around and

810
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 3: make thirty.

811
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: They don't give you a million to make thirty.

812
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 3: They don't give a fuck if you're riding around the

813
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: street with their cave in the car and with the

814
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: motherfucking you.

815
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck.

816
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 3: If you're filming a nigga talking about you just beat

817
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 3: the nigga's ass and call his own boy slipping. They

818
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: love it. Look, he just got another million followers. So

819
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: I think it's the bread man. Bread makes a lot

820
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 3: of shit acceptable you give me. That's just like when

821
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: mother funers trying to get in the flood in the

822
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 3: Bulancher say, nah, nigga, you can't get in.

823
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: You slide a couple of one hundred that they're gonna

824
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: turn up. You are going right in, lad. He ain't

825
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: supposed to you seeing me. They going right here, going

826
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: right here. I don't have to here, n you give

827
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: me like.

828
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: It is to look coming up in the club and

829
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: people wondering how they got the gun inside of there

830
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: in the.

831
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 3: First Please, Nigga, maybe my nigga at the back door,

832
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 3: let us come right on in this motherfucker. Or nigga,

833
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: we ad the motherfucking DJ quitting and Magga they was

834
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: inside the DJ turntables, Lego or nigga, I at the back.

835
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 3: Niggas ain't to searching my backpack. You know that's that's

836
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: hate and ship you feel me? Or nigga, you good,

837
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 3: my nigg come on here. Oh yeah, I'm coming here

838
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: with two of these motherfuckers in here, so it's worth

839
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: your own boys, man, please, So that's just the one man,

840
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 3: that's just how shit's been at going around.

841
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: Did you ever look back?

842
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: You got to think about it, especially from your neighborhood.

843
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: I think I know they got other rappers from your neighborhood.

844
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: You for sure been the most successful, right, the most prominent.

845
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 2: Do you ever look back, man? Well, you never did.

846
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: You never did too much gang banging. You never did

847
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: no gang banging actually on your records.

848
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 3: Now I do gang banging on my records, because she

849
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 3: was already gang banging. You know, it was already gang banging.

850
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: So I knew that this was a form of you know,

851
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to first of all, trying to make income.

852
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 3: Now get to the state of where I'm getting to

853
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: the stage of where I'm starting to get attention by motherfuckers.

854
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: And I don't want to get attention because I'm known

855
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: for cripping on niggas. I want attention for being an

856
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: MC because that's the love you feel me.

857
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: Game banging was.

858
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: The necessity of being, the necessity of being in a

859
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 3: situation to where you damn show know that we're living

860
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: in a time where counting is full of neighborhoods. Niggas

861
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 3: is game banging, and you go to school with niggas,

862
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: and you grow up with niggas and you you you

863
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: you bind friendships and those friendships turning into game shit.

864
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: You feel me and from there ship from there, motherfucker.

865
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 3: Just like I said, it was already gang banging. So

866
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: when I started making records, I looked at records as.

867
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: Being a real m C.

868
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 3: I didn't look at myself off as being a gangster

869
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: rapper like they started calling us. I looked at myself

870
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 3: like run DMC EPMD, Big Daddy Kane. They weren't calling

871
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: them niggas gangsters, and Kane was talking about sticking up

872
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: niggas and doing all kinds of shit. But they wasn't gangsters,

873
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 3: and so I didn't know that to I didn't want

874
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 3: that to stick on me because I knew we was

875
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: finna start going out to places. I didn't want to

876
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: alienate niggas. I don't give a fuck if they was

877
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: bloods or essays or Asian gangs. I just wanted niggas.

878
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 4: To reflect off of being niggas in the neighborhood and

879
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 4: going through those processes of growing up in the neighborhood

880
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 4: and this time in this era, this is what's going on.

881
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: If you're growing up in this era, you are proper

882
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 3: doing one of these.

883
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: Things that my mother fucking ass is doing too. As

884
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: far as being.

885
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 3: In the neighborhood, I don't need to say I'm a crip.

886
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 3: I didn't need to say pripping blood blah blah. I

887
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 3: didn't need to say that because you ate from you.

888
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody ate from dragoning. So I can't expect that.

889
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: So I can't keep I can't push the line of

890
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 3: ripping hard for the neighborhood or because I don't want

891
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 3: niggas to feel like, oh well, all he talking mat

892
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 3: is traggling part. All he talking about was traggoning part.

893
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I did a record about

894
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: the homies one time Guy for the month where you

895
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: know we I was talking about all the homies in

896
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: the hood, and then that was it. I did that

897
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: as a as a tribute to my experiences and niggas

898
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 3: I saw as O G's and how we walk and

899
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: how we presented ourselves as representing tracking pork. Other than that,

900
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 3: considering myself fucking MC like, I'm gonna got a you

901
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: feel me, nigga, I'm just not no motherfucking dope dealing

902
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: ass kaki suit wearing you know, dry by shooting niggas

903
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 3: turn around and get on the beat like this and

904
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: flex I give up back.

905
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: Then eight is enough?

906
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 3: Uh time you feel me like me, I'm a I

907
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: ain't just no nigga who's talking about We're sitting in

908
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 3: the park every day drinking forty ounces, even though that's

909
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 3: my life at this moment.

910
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: But nigga, I mean I looked up.

911
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 3: To MCing Run, dmc LLL, cool J, Nigga, fucking the

912
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 3: Beastie Boys, motherfucking Scottler Rock and kr Rest in the beginning,

913
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: you know it and those type of niggas like niggas

914
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 3: who was hula niggas but they was nakings yeah, you.

915
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: Know, and the thing yields. That's the eraror because you

916
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: know what I think people realize back then, there's that.

917
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: Gang banging was so stupid back then, man, that.

918
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: Where if you've got on the record and said the

919
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 2: wrong thing, people could actually die.

920
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's.

921
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 3: I mean shit, you could die being got caught slipping

922
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 3: at the liquor store. That's how gang banging is, and

923
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 3: that's how representing the set and really you know, being

924
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 3: you know that nigga from the neighborhood, you you took

925
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: that shit serious. So you know if you're I think

926
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 3: I don't. That's why I think niggas didn't really you know,

927
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 3: niggas didn't really want to take that rock. Like if

928
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: you knew I was a crip, I was a crip.

929
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna even if you give me. You

930
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 3: could tell that on just the GP status. If you

931
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: a blood, I'm gonna know your blood. Just you ain't

932
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: got the rap about you know, blood shit because.

933
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm a know that that's me.

934
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 3: So now just show me of you're a rapper, because

935
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 3: this is what that is that was created for. It

936
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 3: wasn't created for you know, niggas acclaimed territories and hoods

937
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: and whatever. Hip Hop was created as a way to express,

938
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, being in certain motherfucker shit

939
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 3: And even though we picked up into it or expression

940
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: was the game bank shit, you feel me, but you

941
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 3: still had the honor of the fact that you have

942
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 3: to be a true motherfucking master of the microphone.

943
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: You get me.

944
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: And that's the thing that gag Bay what you just

945
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: wasn't just go get over from benk gang Bank.

946
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: I think that you know, a lot of old school

947
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 3: artists prided themselves on that, even though you might've walked

948
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 3: that life.

949
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: You know, star Faces, the ls.

950
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 3: The eighths, the Cubs, the motherfucking three two's, big mics,

951
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 3: the big Daddy Kings, the eplbs me. This was cleaning

952
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 3: where they were from stat Night and from the blocks.

953
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: We from Brooklyn, we from Camp and we from Inglewood. Nigga,

954
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: we from Watts. But you have to bride yourself on

955
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 3: being an MC back in them days.

956
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: You get me. You have to be traded on the mic.

957
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 3: You couldn't just be like Nigga gunning you down, Nigga

958
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 3: eight K Nigga, I split you a two or Nigga

959
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 3: the hold me the Homi so and so came through

960
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 3: and shot up the block and Nigga we getting money

961
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: over here home.

962
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: Me and man Niggas is like, what the fuck is that?

963
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 3: You would have to be a truth MC, and I

964
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 3: think that's what we prided ourselves, even though the fact

965
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 3: that we carried from those walks of Wots, we just,

966
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 3: you know, we felt a certain way about what we wrote.

967
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 3: As far as being an artist, you know, we still

968
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 3: wanted to be creative. I just didn't want to rap

969
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 3: one two, three four Nigga's gonna kick in your door.

970
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: You feel me like, you know you know what, I

971
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: can't attest that I remember a Homeboy.

972
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: It was from hum Man and he was hard Man

973
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: catching man Lord Shamel back in the day. I don't

974
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: know where Shamael is now. But I remember we were

975
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 2: talking about you wanted because he had SB twelve hundred

976
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: and he was trying to show me how to use

977
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: this SB twelve hundred, right, and we were just talking

978
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: about rep and one of your songs that came on.

979
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: He said, now that is hard.

980
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: He was like, and he just stopped what he was

981
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: doing and turned it up.

982
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: It was something that was on the radio. So you

983
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 2: always had respect to being at MC, hence your name

984
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 2: MC eight.

985
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: Or definitely that's that. That was one of the things.

986
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 3: I value, you know. I was like, man, I'm gonna

987
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 3: be on out. I mean, I'm gonna get in this

988
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 3: gay but again, you know, I know what I'm doing.

989
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 3: I'm a young nigga and another then I'm trying to represent.

990
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm trying to claim and set whatever. But I man,

991
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 3: I prided myself on being at MC, so I can

992
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 3: just give you simple shit like I said, one, two,

993
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: three four, kicking your door and and that's what neighborhood niggas,

994
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 3: and that you know, we're gonna sell some crack nigga

995
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 3: and you come to we're gonna dunk on you.

996
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: I had to you know, I'm gonna give you a

997
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: song or two like that to.

998
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 3: Show you the poverty and the stress level of what

999
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: I'm really seeing and going through.

1000
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: But then.

1001
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: I showed these executive motherfuckers, I can really hold a tone.

1002
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: You're getting me.

1003
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you said what you said, you can't be

1004
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,959
Speaker 3: no singer. You know, pride yourself on being a true

1005
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: motherfucker singer, and they get in front of motherfuckers and

1006
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 3: can't hold a tune and niggas like so, you didn't

1007
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 3: even tell me all of that is studio ship. So

1008
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 3: that was it. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna give you

1009
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 3: the street ship. That's what you you know, but did

1010
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 3: and that ship yourself some raps as far as being

1011
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 3: a MC.

1012
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: Well, I know you and see it that once before

1013
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: he actually means something, your name, the way you spelled

1014
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 1: them everything, it actually means something.

1015
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 3: Now he's getting little after them, and shit I came

1016
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 3: up with because I didn't you just you know what

1017
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying a lot of people, or the thirty eight

1018
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 3: strap when you drink eight ball, but it was experienced

1019
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 3: in hardcore trumpet because I made that ship up because

1020
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 3: I don't wanna let niggas no nigga I'm a rapper, rapper,

1021
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 3: I'm just not no nigga wearing a kaki suit for

1022
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 3: show and tell, And all I'm gonna tell you is

1023
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 3: about is motherfucking you know, I'm gonna give you.

1024
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the hood took me under. I'm

1025
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: gonna give you niggas and struggling they growing up in

1026
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: the hood.

1027
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 3: But like I said, yeah, I'm gonna give you songs

1028
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: like I don't dance and I give up nothing and

1029
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 3: give it up and shit like that, like oh this

1030
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: thinka you're wrong, right.

1031
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people, like I said, man, you

1032
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: got a fan base. Whether people want to admit it

1033
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: or not. Man, New York is kind of like the Mecca.

1034
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: They don't seen many people in New York give it

1035
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: up or definitely definitely all right. So you, like I said,

1036
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: you've learned over the years that like I said, what.

1037
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 3: You do, you take pride in it and the other

1038
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 3: motherfucker see how you know hard you work at it yourself,

1039
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: and that you've always stayed on the same agenda and uh,

1040
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 3: you know you never tried to do anything to put

1041
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 3: yourself in a different predicament, to try to fool the

1042
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 3: public and the fans, and because you just want status

1043
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 3: and accolades. You know, I think once I'm not comfortable

1044
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 3: with that shit. It's just like, it is what it is.

1045
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: And so nigga take pride and still being at emp C.

1046
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 3: And even though it's the years and you got different

1047
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: styles of music today and different people and different fans

1048
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: and whatever, I still pride myself on being able to

1049
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 3: be at em C.

1050
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: You know, who do you like? Man from the whole

1051
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: crupp of Newcats? It ain't got to be the fine

1052
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 2: New Coast who you'd like it nowadays?

1053
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: Tile and Sleep.

1054
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 3: I'm one of those dudes that I'll just let songs

1055
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: flip and you know, like I said, I'll listen to.

1056
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: The new ship.

1057
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 3: You know, I'm listening to all the new old school niggas.

1058
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: You know, my nigga ray Qua put.

1059
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 3: Out a record, and me and motherfucking gold Space put

1060
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 3: out a record, and then you know, my nigga Que

1061
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: just drops some ship or Sloop put out a record

1062
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 3: not too long ago. So that's what I'm really listening to.

1063
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 3: You know, if I hear something new and it bangs,

1064
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 3: then I'll play it. H I'm I'm I'm I'm still

1065
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: listening to the Griselda camp.

1066
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like them dudes a whole lot. I like

1067
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: I like all the Grasella, the list cats out there.

1068
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,959
Speaker 2: There's some cats I ain't gonna see, silly young cats,

1069
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: but there's some cats from this generation.

1070
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: But you know, Karan ain't around anymore.

1071
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 3: And you know, I just started back coaching around the

1072
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 3: little kids.

1073
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: You know, So I gotta my ear Juan to the

1074
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: kids with.

1075
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 3: Their phone at the park, and then you know, I

1076
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 3: hear what they listening to. Uh, you know, they listening

1077
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 3: to a lot of you know, the Ken drag. They

1078
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 3: listening to a lot of big XRA plug stuff, or

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01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 3: they listening to a lot of NBA Young Boys stuff.

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01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: So you just gotta be in tune. You feel the

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01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: plug is hard, big cause the plug is real.

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01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 3: Hard to me, So just be into And then I

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01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 3: try to listen and keep my ear in tune to

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01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 3: a lot of the old school shit, so just so

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01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 3: I can be y'all reminded and reminisced or yester years

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01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: and try to stay fresh on that side too.

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01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 2: I don't you know what, I don't look at it, man,

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01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 2: I don't look at it like I look at it

1089
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 2: like whose Spinners.

1090
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't care how old they is.

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01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: It's a young cat I'm messing with now, a real

1092
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 2: heavy name, y'all seen.

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01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: I like Big Extra Club.

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01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: I've always did like and I ain't gonna say dang

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01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: yas he ain't necessarily new, But I really fool with

1096
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: Dave East. They got a whole bunch of dope cats

1097
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 2: out there, man, But man, you know.

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01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: What is what it is? Man?

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01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: On that note, man, be about to step up out

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: of here. Man, y'all be safe out there with all

1101
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: this madness going on, and just watch us around this man,

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01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 2: and be careful out there for sure. Thank y'all man

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01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 2: for tuning in this week and celebrating five years with

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01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 2: the Black Effect Podcast Network with us. I wish I

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01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 2: had some of the noisemakers and all that shit. He ye,

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01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: Charlamagne's cracking Black Effect kick and seeing baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all know what it is right now? You heard that,

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01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: Charlet Maine.

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Speaker 2: Well, that concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to downloaded the iHeart app and subscribe to

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01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,080
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Speaker 2: leave a comment and rating. Executive producers for The gangst

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01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 2: Chronicles podcasts of Norman Steel, Aaron m c a Tyler.

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Speaker 2: Our visual media director is Brian Wyatt, and our audio

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Speaker 2: editors Teyor Hayes. The Gangster Chronicles is a production of

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