WEBVTT - DeJuan Guy Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I have a question, Um, do you ever

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<v Speaker 1>have moments where you think that maybe you're weird? And

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<v Speaker 1>I also have those moments about you all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Well, here's the thing that might So that's life, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Every moment of life is thinking will's weird? How How

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<v Speaker 1>do you put on your socks and shoes? Oh? God,

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<v Speaker 1>I put on socks, sock, shoe, shoe. Okay, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm weird Yoh yeah, yeah, why you do one sock,

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<v Speaker 1>one shoe? Yeah? So I like, I I sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and I Mr Rogers, did I put one leg up

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<v Speaker 1>over the other? I put on a sock and a

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<v Speaker 1>shoe and tie it and put it down, and then

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<v Speaker 1>put the other leg up and put on a sock

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<v Speaker 1>and shoe and tie it. Like why would I put

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<v Speaker 1>on a put on a sock and then put my

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<v Speaker 1>foot down and put up my other foot and put

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<v Speaker 1>on a sock and then put that down, and then

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<v Speaker 1>put up my other foot and put on a shoe

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<v Speaker 1>and put it. Seems like I'm doubling my workload. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go I I put my socks on before I

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<v Speaker 1>put my pants on. M hmm, interesting, Okay, I know

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<v Speaker 1>I think I do that. So the most comfortable order

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<v Speaker 1>for me is I have underwear. I put socks on,

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<v Speaker 1>then I put pants on, then I put shoes on,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't wear I was gonna say the shirt on shirtless. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've never thought about this. Is That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I was curious, because because I I caught a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a glimpse of myself with just one fully tied

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<v Speaker 1>shoe on one side and one bare foot, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just went, is this normal? Do most people do this?

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<v Speaker 1>Or am I the weird one? Yet? Again? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those internet things where you know, toilet

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<v Speaker 1>paper over under like obviously um scandal where people weren't

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<v Speaker 1>washing their legs. Yeah, don't even get me started. It

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<v Speaker 1>was hardly a scandal. Someone said, a famous person said

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't wash their legs in the shower because

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<v Speaker 1>the soap just runs down their legs from their upper

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<v Speaker 1>body and gravity. I get it, I get, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I can't believe you get it. Of course, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems crazy to get that statement. I mean, sure, gravity

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<v Speaker 1>has been dirty, soapy water running down your legs, but

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<v Speaker 1>something both dirty and soapy isn't That isn't that you

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<v Speaker 1>are dirty up here and you wash it with a

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<v Speaker 1>washcloth or soap, and now this soap is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like dirty because it's going to run off your body.

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<v Speaker 1>You're clean once the water rinses that off. This dirty

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<v Speaker 1>soapy nous dripping down your legs is not the same

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<v Speaker 1>as cleaning your legs. I don't use soap in the shower, though.

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<v Speaker 1>I wash my entire body with head and shoulder shampoo.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the truth. Okay, No, I do, yeah because of

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<v Speaker 1>dan druff, just because it's there and it's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I just grab it and use it. Forget

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<v Speaker 1>wash class. I've never used a wash cloth in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I I don't wash my face with anything but

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<v Speaker 1>water and then I just used the shampoo. I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I shampoo my hair and then I just use it

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<v Speaker 1>in the rest of my body. All right, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not wearing shoes in the shower. That's good,

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty normal. I Uh. We have a mostly shoes

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<v Speaker 1>off house. Like we don't insist when people walk in

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<v Speaker 1>that they take their shoes off, but we walk around

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<v Speaker 1>our house without our shoes on. So socks and shoes

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<v Speaker 1>is like the last thing I'm doing before I run

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<v Speaker 1>out the door, I get completely dressed and then go

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<v Speaker 1>downstairs barefoot, and then like right before I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 1>run out the door, I'm like quick, put on socks

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<v Speaker 1>and shoes, and then I put on both socks and

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<v Speaker 1>then both shoes. But I'm that way anyway, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>like to complete all of one step. I like an

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<v Speaker 1>assembly line of of production, like when I helped Jensen

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<v Speaker 1>Jensen as a pin company, and when Jensen has made

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<v Speaker 1>a new shirt or he's made a new pin, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to put all the pins on the paperbacks first,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I want to organize them into their piles,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I want to put them all in the envelopes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do one order at a time, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>here's four pins, let me put these four pins on

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<v Speaker 1>these four backs and then put them like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to do that once. I want to do it

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone. I'm just very glad you said when you

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<v Speaker 1>help Jensen with his pin company, because when you jumped

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<v Speaker 1>in instantly I thought you're gonna say when I help

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<v Speaker 1>Jensen get dressed. Yeah, well he does need a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about getting dressed. Wow, Okay, his clothes for him the

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<v Speaker 1>night before exactly. Oh my goodness. Wow, well I still

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<v Speaker 1>think you're superhero underwear is somehow even weirder than washing

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<v Speaker 1>your body with shampoo. I got two new marvels and

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing Hulk, But the Hulk is um he It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like sleeping shorts. I was hoping it was more

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<v Speaker 1>like the jockeys that I could really wear out. But

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<v Speaker 1>they're not. They're like Big Boxer's a warm last night.

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<v Speaker 1>They are hoak smash. They are great. So yeah, awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me ask you this, will, was was there

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<v Speaker 1>a phase? Okay, so when you were a little kid,

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<v Speaker 1>you were probably superhero underwear. Did you just keep wearing

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<v Speaker 1>superhero underwear all through your life or was there like

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<v Speaker 1>a mini adulthood where you stopped war like boxers or briefs.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I went through that. Yeah, I went through

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<v Speaker 1>that young life crisis where I tried regular underwear, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But then I realized who I was and stayed true

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<v Speaker 1>to it, and I was like, no, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>me right here. Oh boy, welcome to Pod meets World.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm brad Or Strong, and I'm Wilfredell. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's bring in our guest for today. He is somebody

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<v Speaker 1>we have had the pleasure of watching on Boy Meat's

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<v Speaker 1>World a couple of times now that we're into the

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<v Speaker 1>first season. He is honestly the most fleshed out third

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<v Speaker 1>friend of any of the third friends we had, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's definitely the most memorable. He is best known as

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<v Speaker 1>Jake and Clive Barker's classic horror movie Candy Man. He

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<v Speaker 1>appeared in Little Giants and Baby Boy on TV and

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<v Speaker 1>shows like Fresh, Prince of bel Air, and Living Color,

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<v Speaker 1>Sister Sister, and he had a recurring role on Boston Public.

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<v Speaker 1>I am really excited to welcome to One. Guy who

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<v Speaker 1>played Ellis in two episodes of Boy Meets World. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to One. Welcome. How are you? I'm doing good? How

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<v Speaker 1>are you? We are doing well? Man, We are so

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<v Speaker 1>excited to have you here. You grew up. You grew up? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up. I definitely grew up. And I even

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<v Speaker 1>have a grown up. I got a little grown up myself.

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<v Speaker 1>How old is your little grown up? Funny one, he

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<v Speaker 1>just became really grown up. You have a real grown

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<v Speaker 1>up A definitely. I have four total, four kids, four

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<v Speaker 1>kids totalm Wow, that's anyone, fourteen ten and uh four, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>they really run, Yes they do. And my fourth is

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<v Speaker 1>my girl and she has me wrapped around her pink.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not totally surprising. Go on, I am dying to know.

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<v Speaker 1>How were you cast on Boy Meat's World. What was

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<v Speaker 1>the auditioning process for you? What did you know about

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<v Speaker 1>the role? Tell us everything, he said, tell us, look, look,

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<v Speaker 1>look everything, tell us everything. I mean, it was back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day. You had the head shots and you

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<v Speaker 1>go you go in with your head shot and and

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<v Speaker 1>do your audition. And I was just going on so

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<v Speaker 1>many you know, and I went out from Boy Meat's

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<v Speaker 1>World and you know, I got it. I found out,

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<v Speaker 1>I booked it, and I was like it was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this will be a fun show to work on, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I remember wardrobe asking what I wanted to wear,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to wear cross colors. I remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember. Uh, there's a lot of things I remember, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember we went and played basketball with the kids

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<v Speaker 1>from Home Improvement. Yeah, there was a daily occurrence that

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<v Speaker 1>that that that was. That was a fun thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>We have fun on this set. You know. It's funny

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't remember ever being asked what I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to wear. No, I was gonna say that. That was that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So hearing that they got that you got some input

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty great because I would have at least picked

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<v Speaker 1>a belt. You didn't get to pick anything. No, not

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<v Speaker 1>not not if memory serves I mean, did you does

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<v Speaker 1>anybody remember having at least in the beginning. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember having any input. Maybe as we got older, we

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<v Speaker 1>could have a little input when it came to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they just looked at you and me Will and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, you guys have no style, so don't worry

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<v Speaker 1>because I had no style. I like, I said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what that was that. I'm not gonna not going

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<v Speaker 1>to mention other sets. But that wasn't the only set

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<v Speaker 1>that I worked on where they asked me what I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to wear, what I was into? That was not

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<v Speaker 1>like uncommon in the nineties, I guess, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've worked on a lot of different shows and it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't I mean, it's not like I had a final say,

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<v Speaker 1>but they'd be like, hey, what do you like? What

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<v Speaker 1>are you into? You know? And you know, sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>get to wear it. Sometimes I wouldn't. And back then

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<v Speaker 1>you got to peep clothes sometimes that that that day ended.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when that ended. They used to get after

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<v Speaker 1>everything was shot and done, and they might let you

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<v Speaker 1>keep some clothes. Well, you mentioned other sets. Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you tell us about some of the other shows you

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<v Speaker 1>did during the nineties and what those experiences were like.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I want to ask you about any specific

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<v Speaker 1>memories you have from being on the set of Boy

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<v Speaker 1>Meats World. But tell us about some of the other

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<v Speaker 1>shows you did. Well. I worked on Fresh Prince Bellair.

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<v Speaker 1>How fun was that? That was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a very loose set, like it was everybody

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we it was taped in front of a

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<v Speaker 1>line of audience. So what we would do is we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting Will's dressing room and kind of have a little

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<v Speaker 1>hype up moment where he's like rapping and and doing

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<v Speaker 1>all these things, and then um, you know, we're dancing

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<v Speaker 1>around and everybody's getting hyped for the audience. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was fun. That was fun, and Will was so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>He even had Nike sent me some shoes for Christmas. So, like,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I was getting stuff in the nineties

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<v Speaker 1>one way, you know, like I was getting stuff. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see what in Living Color Um that was a

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<v Speaker 1>hot show and I needs and I got a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to work on that, and that's one of my favorite shows.

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<v Speaker 1>So and the thing is what that show is they

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<v Speaker 1>would have skits and sometimes they wouldn't get to your skit.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I got hired like five times and

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<v Speaker 1>then I worked three times. So that show was a

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<v Speaker 1>little different than any thing else that I've worked on

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<v Speaker 1>because usually gonna at least shoot it, even though I

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<v Speaker 1>put you on a shopping black later, at least get

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot it right. But on that show and be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not getting to this. Get you can go home now.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's really cool because you know, that was obviously

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<v Speaker 1>a show that had like a regular cast, So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you were really rare in the sense that you were

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<v Speaker 1>like a recurring guest star on the show, where I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't super common recurring guest star because I did do

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I did do three episodes. But the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing in the nineties for me was Candy Man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was you know, that's the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>has people going to this day is Candy Man. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've done horror conventions and things like that. And people

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<v Speaker 1>have me signing all kind of custom made stuff, mirrors

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<v Speaker 1>with hooks coming out of it, and just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff so freaks me out. It's so freak that in

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<v Speaker 1>my head, I'm like, just just talk about in living color,

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<v Speaker 1>just talk about in living color. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get into the horror stuff. It scared me. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I worked on Baywatch too. I didn't really and they

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<v Speaker 1>made a two part episode where I was like this

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<v Speaker 1>little kid in the wheelchair, and that was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the more challenging roles I did, because of course I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not actually handicapped. I wasn't in a wheelchair, but I

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<v Speaker 1>had gotten shot and I was in a wheelchair, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually the character was kind of supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be in um protective well I don't know, pro technic

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<v Speaker 1>custody or not technical. They're supposed to, yeah, protecting there,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. So I'm highly out at this rehab and

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<v Speaker 1>then Daved Householf you know his niche comes in because

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<v Speaker 1>he gets hurt, so he's at the rehab and of

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<v Speaker 1>course he ends up saving the day. But they made

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<v Speaker 1>that a two part episode, which was a big deal,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had like a we did like a little

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<v Speaker 1>premier for it and everything it was. It was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a big deal. Yeah, so okay, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to have a question because I I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I don't even know how to word this. Because

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<v Speaker 1>Candyman and You've got fresh principal air in living color,

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<v Speaker 1>Sister Sister, Boy Me Tworld. It's like some of the

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<v Speaker 1>most iconic nineties shows throwing another one on the mix?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there one that when you look back on, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one where you say sister? I think with Sister

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<v Speaker 1>Sister too again, every every one, So is there one

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<v Speaker 1>you look back on and say, Yeah, that's the one

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the most proud of because of whatever reason. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's the last ridiculous when it comes to nineties shows

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<v Speaker 1>that you're on. Yeah, wow, almost it was World. No,

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, answer why definitely? But I had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun. I had a lot of fun work. I

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<v Speaker 1>even worked with Simbad and the late great Green Hinds.

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<v Speaker 1>The first movie I actually worked when ever was Boy

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<v Speaker 1>Is in the Hood. My scene got cut, so I

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<v Speaker 1>got the experience of being on the chopping block first

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<v Speaker 1>before there was Boys in the Hood. What developed my

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with John Singleton, the late John Singleton, and I

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<v Speaker 1>later did Baby Boy when I got a little older.

0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.839
<v Speaker 1>I did the movie Baby Boy with you know Tyreese

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<v Speaker 1>and wait, let's go, let's take a step back, Joan,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you get started? Like, how did you become

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<v Speaker 1>an actor? You? You grew up in We're right where

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<v Speaker 1>we need to be because it was the Boys in

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<v Speaker 1>the Hood story. Okay, so this is what happens. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not even living in Los Angeles. I'm living in Dayton, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>My aunt lives in Los Angeles, and I visited her

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<v Speaker 1>during the summer and go to like this acting school,

0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Marley Gibbs Acting School, if you remember anybody knows of

0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:51.240
<v Speaker 1>course she had with women Mayo from Tamford and Son. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They had an acting school. And at this acting school

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<v Speaker 1>there were classes for the adults and their classes for

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<v Speaker 1>the kids. I did the classes for the kids. But

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. She was doing a scene from A Raisin

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<v Speaker 1>in the Sun and she had me come in and

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<v Speaker 1>and play the sun. And then John Singleton was in

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<v Speaker 1>that class, and he was like, I want him for

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<v Speaker 1>Boys in the Hood. But I eight and they needed

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<v Speaker 1>like a twelve year old and I was eight and

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<v Speaker 1>I looked six, probably because I always looked young for

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<v Speaker 1>my age, and you know, you know Plumbia Pictures now Sony,

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, you know, no, uh, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work for because it was like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>profanity and all of that. You know, it wasn't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>work with this little kid doing it. They weren't. They

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<v Speaker 1>were gonna have that where you supposed to be at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning when it was when there was all of

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<v Speaker 1>them younger. It was gonna be the young trade, which

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<v Speaker 1>later good. So um, but what he did have me do,

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<v Speaker 1>He had me do this little part and I ride

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<v Speaker 1>up on my bike and I say, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say it because it's kind of uh provocative when I

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<v Speaker 1>say this line to Cuba and his girlfriend on the

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<v Speaker 1>porch because they're kissing. And then I ride off with

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<v Speaker 1>my friends and he throws rocks at us and I

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<v Speaker 1>ride off with my friends. That's what I shot. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I actually did, and that got cut and then later, um,

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<v Speaker 1>how it really was kind of similar to the Baby

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<v Speaker 1>Boy was did you find out it got cut before

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<v Speaker 1>or did you go to the movie thinking that you'd

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<v Speaker 1>see it. I found out I had gone back to Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>and I found that. My aunt told me because she

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<v Speaker 1>had went to the screening and she told me she

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<v Speaker 1>got cut too because she had a partner movie too,

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<v Speaker 1>and they cut hers too because it is it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a rough It's a brilliant film, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>rough film. Would you have been allowed to see it? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>What I've been allowed? I did see it? You did

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<v Speaker 1>when you were eight? They like you what you saw?

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<v Speaker 1>Boyzen hood? Okay. I was wondering if they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of those things where it was too rough,

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't were gonna let you watch it. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a different day in a different time. I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw horror movies. I saw Freddy Cooper Baby wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>uh people today they'd be like, oh, hey, you're watching that,

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<v Speaker 1>But did you did you occasionally get the eyes the

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<v Speaker 1>hand in front of the eyes. That's what I would

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<v Speaker 1>get with my mom or dad would put their hands

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<v Speaker 1>like that would stop something. Yeah, yeah, definitely, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>their hand over there eyeing the nudity scene or something

0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:30.720
<v Speaker 1>like that. But yep, yep, same. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go into how did you get candy man? Candy man.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, candy man, lots of kids. I just shoot

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<v Speaker 1>your candy man. And the part I remember is the

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<v Speaker 1>last audition. Virginia Mason comes running out to the parking.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell me you got it, you got it, you

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<v Speaker 1>got the park you know, and I'm like, whoa, that

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<v Speaker 1>never happened. Only other times that happened was on Baywatch.

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<v Speaker 1>And I walked out of the casting room knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>I got casted, and everybody was still in their uh

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<v Speaker 1>wait in the audition. I thought you were gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia Madsen came running after you, saying you got Baywatch,

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<v Speaker 1>you got Baywatch? Oh no, no, no, that it was

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<v Speaker 1>Handyman and Baywatch A two times that I found out

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<v Speaker 1>like instantly that I was cast. That's fine, that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the old school Hollywood way. You get that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, congratulations, you got the part. Kid. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that anymore. Yeah, days out with that everything.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't even let you come in an audition anymore. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you guys are seeing Henry Thomas's audition for et.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unreal. One of the craziest things in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>It's they it's you just see, it's a close up

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<v Speaker 1>of his face and you can hear Steven Spielberg saying

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<v Speaker 1>giving him instructions like okay, that the alien's going away

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<v Speaker 1>and you just want have to say goodbye to him

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<v Speaker 1>and he's your best friend, and he improvises the saying

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<v Speaker 1>don't don't take him away, and he starts crying and

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<v Speaker 1>it's the most emotion. It's like, it's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most incredible. It's almost better than he is in the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's amazing, just came to life. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he stops in the New Year Spielberg, Well, you got

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<v Speaker 1>the park kids, so it's amazing. Speaking of stillborn Steven Spielberg,

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<v Speaker 1>I worked with him too. It was yeah, little giants.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, you literally were a part of every

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<v Speaker 1>iconic nineties thing. Yes, that's another crazy story. Um, if

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<v Speaker 1>I might just I'll tell you real quick. Basically, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I went an audition, probably for one of the regular

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<v Speaker 1>parts like everybody else, and I didn't really fit for

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<v Speaker 1>what they were looking for. But still, from what I heard,

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<v Speaker 1>Spielberg wanted me to be in the film anyway, so

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<v Speaker 1>they put me in the beginning of the film when

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<v Speaker 1>they're like the sixties and they're like playing like a

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<v Speaker 1>little game of football in the park and his you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a little brother doesn't get picked and all that. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was a lot of fun. Talk about junk food

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<v Speaker 1>on set. Every it was like ice crape bars, like

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<v Speaker 1>it was totally catered to kids. Like that set was

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<v Speaker 1>loaded with like just all the stuff that kids would like,

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<v Speaker 1>all the you know, the candies, the ice cream, the

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<v Speaker 1>jump food. How long did you shoot that? How long

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<v Speaker 1>was was that production? Um? I actually I worked a

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<v Speaker 1>few days, but I only shot like I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one or two days I shot or something. They had.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one of those sets where you might just

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<v Speaker 1>come and hang around all day a book your school

0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:40.239
<v Speaker 1>out do your was three hours of school, get your

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<v Speaker 1>school booked in, and then you're just hanging out, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out. You know, Yeah, we do a lot. I'm

0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:49.560
<v Speaker 1>sure you remember doing a lot of that hanging out. Well,

0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.280
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a good question. Do you do you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how much of your schooling when you were

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<v Speaker 1>growing up was actually done on set? Schools? A good

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<v Speaker 1>amount between fourth in the eighth grade, wow, between the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth and eighth grade, a good amount. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>once I got the high school, things slowed down because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how would you the cash you at eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>to play twelve? But basically, um, between fourth grade and

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<v Speaker 1>eighth grade, I was definitely doing a lot of school

0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.720
<v Speaker 1>on the set, which uh, and my teachers were great.

0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:30.359
<v Speaker 1>I went to a private school, so they did you

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<v Speaker 1>move out to l A at that point or were

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<v Speaker 1>you I moved out to l A right before Candy Man, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was like right after the Boys in the Hood.

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<v Speaker 1>I went back to Ohio and then my mom was like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>if this looks like this might be a gig for you,

0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:49.560
<v Speaker 1>or you know, this looks like this might be a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you book something else, you can stay

0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.879
<v Speaker 1>out there with your aunt and you know my uncle.

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:59.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's what happened. I book Candy Man and let

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<v Speaker 1>me color and I just started working. So my stage

0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I went to a private school, which, um, I think

0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 1>it was good coming up being that I was in

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the city, so you know, we had prayer in school

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:14.280
<v Speaker 1>and all that good stuff. So that so he was

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<v Speaker 1>like driving you to auditions and stuff. Is that your on?

0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.920
<v Speaker 1>My I was driving me to auditions. She was that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like she was an actor too, Yes, she she, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she went to UH college and study theater

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<v Speaker 1>and used to do all kind of competitions, speech competitions

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and plays and all kinds of stuff. But she put

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<v Speaker 1>her career to aside and and basically focused on me.

0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:42.399
<v Speaker 1>And I was taking me on my auditions, was my

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<v Speaker 1>acting coach on set, mom, all of that good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So um yeah, shout out to my Yes. Hey everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts you'll love, especially ours, Daniel, I have to go back.

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize, but I'm such a fan of In Living Color. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Which cast members did you get to work with? I'm

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 1>dying to know who you were actually in the show

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<v Speaker 1>with because it was one of David Allen Greer and

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Foxx. I mean it was like one of the best,

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:18.680
<v Speaker 1>was one of the fly girls. I mean it was

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<v Speaker 1>The cast was incredible. So who did you get to

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<v Speaker 1>work with while you were there? David Allen Greer, Jim Carrey, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie fox It was an episode one episode? I did, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>David Allen Greer, I was like just like a Native

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<v Speaker 1>American with the bow and arrow kind of thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had hemorrhoids. I don't know, it was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>color they had like some Woe. The other one with

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Carrey h which Jamie Fox was a part of

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<v Speaker 1>two was it was like make a death wish. So

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to be the sick kid and he's let

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 1>me do whatever I want to do. You let me

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>playing the super Bowl, you know, flying airplane. Oh jeez.

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 1>So that was a lot of fun working with Jim

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Carey and Jamie Fox and David that was a fun

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 1>set to work on. It was I do a really

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 1>great fire Marshal Bill impersonation that I won't do because

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you can't bring that up and then say I'm not

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 1>going that's not It was such a huge fan But

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you a right, pretty good right. The

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 1>best part that you didn't really get to stands that

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I can do the next How did you pop them out?

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>So like normally I have to dry my teeth? How

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:46.639
<v Speaker 1>did you You just did it instantly? I can go

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 1>right into it A long time. I spent a long

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>time perfecting that well, because in Living Color came after

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm Going to Get You Sucker, which is one of

0:25:56.320 --> 0:26:01.120
<v Speaker 1>the funniest eighties movies ever, and and Ivory Waynes wrote

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and directed and started it and it was so good,

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:07.199
<v Speaker 1>and David Allen Greer shined in that movie at a

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>tiny part and was hysterical. And I remember every time

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 1>watching In Living Color going how is he not the

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 1>biggest comedian in the world. How is David Angrier not

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the biggest comedian? He's so funny and was one of

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 1>those underrated kind of people. And then In Living Color

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>came out and I was like, Oh, finally he's got

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>a shot. So at the idea that you're on set

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.399
<v Speaker 1>and you're working with David Allen Greer and Jim Carrey

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 1>and Jamie Fox, I didn't know if it was gonna

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>be a recurring role. I think I did know at

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>one point that was gonna come back again, you know,

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:40.120
<v Speaker 1>after the first episode. Uh, but it's fine to find

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 1>out about. I was excited about it. I was My

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>agent used to do a thing where she would ring

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the bill. She had a bill so if you booked something,

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>she would ring the bill. So I was you know,

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 1>I was definite when I heard the bill ring and

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I know it was Winn's World. I was excited about it.

0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>It was gonna you know, be on a cool studio

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>lot and um, yeah, you know, have a lot of fun.

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, we were with those water guns. We were

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 1>having fun with that water war. Then it was the

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>painting Defense and you know, working with Ben and then

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Fred came on set and I got to meet him,

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>and I knew him from the Wonder Years. So I

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, that was kind of plas I remember when

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.120
<v Speaker 1>you was a kid working on the Wonder Years. Yeah,

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 1>so I remember him coming on set. Um, have you

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:28.719
<v Speaker 1>heard us talk about what we lovingly dubbed as the

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>death chair? No? What is what? What did you call

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the death chair? So? The death chair was the chair

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>of the Third Friend. That was basically the first season

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 1>of Boy Meets World. For at least the first several episodes,

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 1>they were really trying to find that third friend. It

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be Corey, Sean and this other friend, and

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.439
<v Speaker 1>they were going through kids and kids would come on

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and they do one episode and then we'd never see

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:02.919
<v Speaker 1>them again, and you run of the rare guests that

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>stayed for two episodes. And so I was wondering if

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 1>you had heard us talk about that at all? And

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>do you remember then finding out you weren't going to

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>come back after after you had done two episodes? Was

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>there ever any sort of conversation about not coming back

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 1>or was it just that you didn't get another call? Uh,

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't get a call to come back. Um,

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a possibility because I did two episodes,

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and anytime you do two episodes. Later, when I worked

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>on Boston Public, you know that means more episodes. Possibly

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I became recurring. And you know, I learned early on

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>in this business. Remember the Boys in the Hood story,

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>So I learned early on that you just kind of

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>gotta best yourself off and move on to the next

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>but not take it personally. But I definitely had a

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>great time working with everybody on the set, and you

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 1>know it was Yeah, then don't forget it was Mincaus.

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Mincus is the one that stopped for a little while. Yeah, yeah,

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about. Now. I have a question for everybody,

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>because I honestly don't know. Do you think, as they

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>were trying to find this third friend because they have

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>to write the scripts ahead of time, so they're they're

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>working on scripts down the line, do you think they'd

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>bring a friend on and have that friend in two

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>or three episodes and then the actor didn't work out,

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>so they take them out of future scripts or do

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you think they were never put into future scripts? Like

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>how would that work? Well, you gotta think with kid actors,

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.719
<v Speaker 1>it's not just the kid, it's everything that comes with

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the kid. I'm gonna leave it there. I'm gonna leave

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 1>it there. It's not just the kid. It's the full package,

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever that is. I look at it, it's the full package.

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>And I think maybe they were unsure in some cases,

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, and maybe the full package just wasn't the

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>right fit. And you know, who knows is a number

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>of reasons, especially dealing with child actors, that could be

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, who really knows. I wanted to ask you

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>because you mentioned being able to dust yourself off because

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>of your very first experience with boys in the hood.

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>How do you dust yourself off? What are your like

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 1>skills and what how do you not take something personally?

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 1>It's it's something that I think actors deal with all

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the time, the rejection, but it's not something that um

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 1>that people outside of the entertainment industry have to deal

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>with that often. Uh, And so what are your skills

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>for dusting yourself off? Well, one thing that I was

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty as a young kid, teenager, I was active in

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>my church, So I didn't just have I wasn't just

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 1>solely focused on, you know, just school and then working

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>on somebody's set. You know. I was inquires praise teams.

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>So there's the faith based there. And um, there was

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 1>a time when I even turned down a role because

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I had committed to doing you know, MC in a

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>concert and leading some songs at a concert from my church.

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:27.719
<v Speaker 1>And it was a movie we all turned down. And

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>it ended up being my grandmother rest in peace, who

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>was like a mother to me. I was very close to.

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I got a couple of tattoos dedicated to her. Uh.

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>She passed in two thousand one and it was the

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>last thing she saw me do was that concert, and

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>she would have never saw the movie. So um, and

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm still active in my church and I sent on

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>to praise team at my church now. Uh but I think,

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I went to the private school and

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 1>some of my faith based kind of helped God. This

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.479
<v Speaker 1>is not all I'm living for is to be on

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>television already get a role. Um, but yeah, anybody is

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>disappointed you audition for. I remember some big stuff I

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>audition for. I distion for the Jackson vide movie and

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I auditioned for the Wood. I there's a lot of

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff that I auditioned for that I didn't book for

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason. And I think, I think your answer is

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>exactly right, man. I think having a community outside of

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 1>the entertainment industry, you know, because so many kid actors, unfortunately,

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>it becomes their parents life to you know, like that

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>their kids work or not. Work becomes so important to

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>their parents. And then you know, especially if you're moving

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 1>from somewhere else to come to Los Angeles, you don't

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>have a community. You know, people don't have community, so

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>they come here and like you see, you know at

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>the Oak Waid apartments, the you know, it's usually a

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>mom with their kid and they're isolated from their community

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and the career becomes everything. And that the pressure that

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>that puts on a kid. Oh, you know, like for me,

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>because the support system. You know what, even though I

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>was making money, of course, um I didn't get that pressure.

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Nobody pressure like you know, I was. I was pulling

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 1>my weight so to speak, for whatever, you know, obvious reasons.

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>But I um, I never got the pressure like I

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>had to work, like you have to book this gig,

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, you haven't booked a gig in six months.

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I never got I never got that pressure, and I'm

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>glad I didn't. I was very because I'm sure that

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 1>there are probably were kids out there in the industry

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>where that we're getting that pressure. Who's you know. I

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>was just in a situation where, you know, things were

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 1>able to stay afloat, you know, and it wasn't all

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 1>on me to keep everybody, you know, afloat, so to speak.

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>And people who gave up their careers for their kids career,

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>then that puts a lot pressure because Okay, if you

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>don't book gigs, how's the rent don't get paid? How exactly,

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>how's the car not gonna get paid? How'm gonna get

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>you to your auditions? You know? Um, and auditions were

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>everywhere back in the day. You you pull out the

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Thomas Guy, Thomas Guide, Thomas Guide. I remember flipping to

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 1>the Thomas Guy and helping my mom like, oh my god,

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 1>sitting staying back seat, flipping that and happy to be

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>like be four bar and Boulevard is on B four

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 1>And then you're like, I mean I figured out how

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 1>to learn I learned how to read maps at a

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 1>very young age, and I got very good at it,

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>just so I could tell my mom, No, no, it's

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the other Ventura Boulevard, Like, oh my god. Can we

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>explain very quickly to our our listeners what the Thomas

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Guide was, because I'm gonna tell us right now. A

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>series of Los Angeles is a crazy giant city all

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>built around the car. So it's you know, all freeways

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and all streets and highways. It's it's it's amaze. And

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>so the famous maps that were produced were these giant

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 1>books called Thomas Thomas Brothers Maps right there, Thomas Brothers,

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 1>Thomas brother I was just a Thomas guy, Thomas Guy.

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I always called it the Thomas Guide, and it was.

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 1>It was. Yeah, it was just a huge book. It was.

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 1>But it had it had a spiral binders, the page

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>spiral bindus. You can flip the pages back, and the

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>pages were long. It was, they were there. It was

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>bigger than a normal book eight and a half by eleven,

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>but the eleven horizon it was horizontal with Yeah, it was.

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>It was landscape is the phrase. Yeah, it was like

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the landscape book. And you would have to flip through

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 1>it and find you in the back where all the

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:47.840
<v Speaker 1>streets and with the numbers, and you have to search

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>the index. It was like a you know, three page

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>index of any street name. So if you got an audition,

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 1>you would get the address and then you have to

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>flip to the back of the Thomas Guide and you know,

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 1>look it up and then it would tell you what

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 1>page that that address in that street, and then it

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>would give you the you know, whether it was BE

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.399
<v Speaker 1>four or C two or whatever, and you have then

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 1>flip back to that page, isolate where it is and

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>figure out where you are on the map. Anybody, did

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>anybody have a beeper? Oh? Yo, of course they had

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 1>the beeper? My page like, like, did anybody get that? No,

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:28.839
<v Speaker 1>they had an audition because they got a page. If

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you got access to a fax machine, you get the

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 1>facts sides the facts and was kind of not working.

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>So I have a question, So it rolled up the shiners.

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 1>So I was told to get two things when I

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 1>came out to Los Angeles. The Thomas Guide and what

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 1>was the other thing everybody had in their car? Oh?

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>The well I had. We had one of those Zach

0:36:56.080 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Morris car phones. Yeah, okay, we had answer one of

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 1>those radars to tell you if the police that's a

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>good answer. But no, the thing everybody had. You had

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the Thomas Guide and you had the club. Oh yeah,

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>done to your steering wheel and got really long so

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>that they couldn't turn your your steering wheel like hit

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>your windshield. Everybody had the club first car or something.

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I had the club, the Club and the Thomas Guide,

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 1>and they scared the heck out of you because they say, oh,

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>you're moving to l A. Get this thing called the Club,

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 1>and if they don't steal your car, you can use

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:35.839
<v Speaker 1>it to defend yourself. I was like, what where am

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I moving to? That was the other thing. Every well

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>down the beach and go. But the Thomas guy did

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:52.359
<v Speaker 1>you guys have to like playing your auditions, Like when

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you got your audition, like okay, map it out going, okay, yeah.

0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 1>That there was no way to know how long it

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>is going to take you to get there. There was

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 1>like three hours. We were always we were always late.

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>My mom was always so stressed out, Like, oh my god,

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 1>the anxiety I get just thinking about this guy, and

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 1>like how much pressure I felt, you know, because we

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 1>were just always lost. We were always lost. Traffic was

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 1>always a miserable. Oh my god. Well Los Angeles. You're

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>either an hour early or two hours late every time.

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I hated being late, but you never if you were

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.360
<v Speaker 1>going to hit this crazy l a traffic or something

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>that was just gonna put you in a parking lot. Yeah,

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>so do wan. You mentioned auditioning for the Jackson five movie.

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.240
<v Speaker 1>What are is that? The is that like the craziest

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 1>thing you auditioned for that didn't book? Or what's a

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 1>project for all of you will writer? What is something

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you auditioned for that You're like, man, that could have

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 1>been me, but I didn't book it? Um, baby boy?

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 1>You looked it? What's the spill the key? Well? I

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.439
<v Speaker 1>remember you might not have heard this, but here I said,

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>auditioned for Jody, which was Tyrese's character, the Leader. So

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I was. I was happy to do

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 1>the film, of course, but it was like, if there's

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 1>anything that I auditioned for, not as a kid, but

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 1>that was the first thing that made me think of

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 1>like baby boy, I wish i'd been am gonna do

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 1>the leading that like that, but as a kid that

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't book. Well, I actually I didn't book Boston

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Public the first few times, and then I then they

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 1>brought me back and just kept bringing me back. So

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that's a didn't book and then end up booking and

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>booking ums. I auditioned for Free Willie. Free Willie. What

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 1>was that crazy movie water World? I understood for water

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 1>roll and they roll instead of a boy whoa character

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 1>probably with the you on your back. Yeah that was

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they changed it, but I just

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>remember they I think they would with a girl. That

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:10.959
<v Speaker 1>was a nice easy shoot from everything I've read. Yeah,

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest disasters in history, Danielle, yours is

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 1>free Willie. Yeah. I tested for Free Willy and they

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 1>end up giving it to that killer whale. I really

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:31.320
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be the whale. They changed it, the ched

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 1>it up a little girl and he helped her escape,

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and they decided it was free. It was free Danielle.

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:41.919
<v Speaker 1>Originally it was free TOPI, and then this whale came

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>in nailed it, and they were like, this thing is

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna be huge, no pun intemper. Remember I wish for

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 1>free will several times. Remember that one kind of on

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the same subject. You talk about gigs that I um

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't book that I wish I would have booked. I

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 1>said the wood was one. But how about gigs that

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 1>could have been bigger gigs like um pilots pilot called

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Finally Home for Aaron Spelling and it had um Melissa

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Gilbert was one of the stars of it, you know,

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 1>from Little House on the Prairie, And I did the pilot,

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 1>but it didn't it didn't pick up. So that was

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 1>a little disappointed because that was at that point where

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I was starting back to work again. I was eighteen,

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>so I could play younger and and work as so

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>that one and then I did. Uh there was a

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>show called Rewind What Fox end up doing that seventies

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 1>show instead of rewinnd It was like they had these

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:50.360
<v Speaker 1>two seventies flashbacks shows. Rewind was one with Scott Bayo

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:53.839
<v Speaker 1>and Maestro Clark, which is the one I did, and

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I they would flash back to the seventies and then

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.879
<v Speaker 1>they end up going with that seventies show. So those

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 1>two shows that could have gone some there that you know,

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 1>do you guys remember back in the day there used

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>to be a movie of the weeks and and they

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 1>but but do you remember how all the networks would

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 1>be making the same mow So something would happen in

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the news, like do you remember there was the Texas

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Cheerleader mom. A mom hired some killer to like murder

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>another whatever. It was like a big scandal. And so

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>then like the next pilot season, they were all three

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>networks were making their version of that story as a

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:32.439
<v Speaker 1>mo the week, And so if you were like you'd

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 1>get auditions, you'd be like, this is the same character name,

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's a completely different script. And they would all

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 1>be casting at the same time. So we'd all be going.

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I remember going out for like, you know, the same

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 1>movie three different times for three different networks, and they

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 1>would all make them and they would all air and

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 1>only one of them would do any good or you

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>know whatever. But yeah, it's such a funny thing. My

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>favorite the audition flashbacks. Yeah, you get those everything, Like then,

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought about the audition for South Central. I really

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 1>wanted that movie and I didn't get it. I was like,

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 1>and I wanted that movie. I remember a movie back

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 1>in New York. Um I was eleven or twelve, and

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 1>it was called The Wind on Fire and it was

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the coolest script in the world. A kid gets separate

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 1>like a kid's parents if I remember this correctly, are

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>um like, uh workers like international workers in the Middle

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:32.840
<v Speaker 1>East and in Afghanistan, and he gets separated from his

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 1>parents and essentially either the parents are killed or they're separated,

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and he is adopted by the Mujahadin and is trained

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>as a Mujahadin freedom fighter and has to learn how

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>to speak Arabic and do all this. And I was

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 1>it was incredible, no, And I was like I was booked.

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 1>It essentially booked in the role I had gone in

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:53.800
<v Speaker 1>ten times. I was going to go into the Middle

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:56.479
<v Speaker 1>East like it was nuts. And I think that's when

0:43:56.520 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 1>the first Gulf four started to break out. Something happened. Um,

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:05.319
<v Speaker 1>but it was I remember that, Yeah, I seriously I

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 1>remember that script though, just thinking like this is gonna

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 1>be the coolest experience of doing this. But the thing

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 1>that still killed me, the one, the one that got

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 1>away from me was the Michael Jordan's commercial because it

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>was all about commercials in New York, especially as a kid,

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 1>and it was the Michael Jordan's coke commercial where he's

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 1>in the um. All the kids are in the treehouse

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 1>and they're sitting there and they're talking about Michael Jordan

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 1>and drinking coke, and all of a sudden, the curtains

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>open and Michael Jordan comes in there like Michael, and

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 1>he hangs out with him and gives him shoes, and

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:39.200
<v Speaker 1>it was down between myself and one of their kids.

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I still remember his name, Mike Moran. And Mike Moran

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 1>booked every commercial there was, and he was he just was.

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>And that was the one that he didn't know what

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 1>to do with your hands and were everybody had exactly

0:44:55.880 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 1>if you had worn a belt often for Michael Jordan commercials,

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 1>that would have been it funny Michael Jordan's story. While

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about Michael Jordan's So, I'm a little kid,

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm I don't know, ten years old and

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm at the Clipper game and I'm watching the Bulls

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 1>play the Clippers, watching Jordan play. And I was a

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>part of his flight club. You know, you give used

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 1>one I D card and I'm like, so I'm going

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 1>to you know, by the locker room and stuff, and

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm scared. I'm like, Michael, I'm in your flight club.

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm a card. Carey, remember I'm a card. I don't remember.

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I was just like so whenever I would go to

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Bulls games, that was like some of the that I

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.399
<v Speaker 1>love going to Bulls games. When I got and then

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 1>the funny part was Robert Townsen was sitting behind me

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and he could have took me in the locker room,

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:57.439
<v Speaker 1>but we didn't say anything in time that half time writer,

0:45:57.560 --> 0:45:59.799
<v Speaker 1>What did you audition for that you didn't book that

0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:06.880
<v Speaker 1>you like look back on? And many things, so many things. Uh. Yeah,

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the craziest day which I feel like I may have

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:13.760
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that there was a time when I I auditioned

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 1>for Hook many many times and it you know, I

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 1>made it down to the final whatever and um so

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I was flying down to l A from home to

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 1>meet Steven Spielberg to audition for Hook. And the night before, uh,

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:35.480
<v Speaker 1>George Lucas found out and he was casting Young Indiana Jones,

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:40.080
<v Speaker 1>so he asked me to audition for him. So when

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:42.280
<v Speaker 1>one day I met George Lucas to play Young Indiana

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Jones and then Steven Spielberg in the same day to

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 1>be Robin Williams Son in Hook, and it was the

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 1>most overwhelming, awful day of my life. I mean, in

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 1>some ways it was the greatest day in my life.

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:56.560
<v Speaker 1>But I was so nervous and the facts that came

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.839
<v Speaker 1>in the night before for the for the Indiana Jones

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>audition was a three page monologue about mummification. So I

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 1>just prepare this monologue and then go meet George Lucas

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>And uh, if you've ever read or heard anything about

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 1>George Lucas, he is a notoriously bad audition er and

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:18.880
<v Speaker 1>not not a very personal warm man. It was, it was.

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:22.880
<v Speaker 1>It was an awful experience and I like walked out crying, miserable,

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:25.400
<v Speaker 1>and my mom had to like cheer me up and like.

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 1>And then we went to Amblin on the Universal lot

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and this was around Christmas time, and Spielberg had pumped

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>in snow around the offices he had. I got there

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 1>and and he was and they go, oh, take him

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 1>to the game room. And they had a waiting room

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:46.239
<v Speaker 1>full of video games just for the kids auditioning to

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 1>play video games and relax. And then they pull you

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 1>from the game room and you go sit in a

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 1>little room with your parent alone with a fire crackling

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 1>to calm you down. And then they call you in

0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and Spielberg could not be He's like the most effusive,

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 1>mind generous, just jumps up, talks and walked me through

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 1>like we spent like half an hour together acting. I

0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 1>mean it's everything that you hear about Spielberg and it

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:09.840
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, this is and I you know, I

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 1>wanted that job so bad because I just wanted to

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 1>work with him and I wanted to a movie like

0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Hook where I got to be, you know, on a

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:17.840
<v Speaker 1>pirate ship and do all this stuff. He wanted to

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 1>work with Phil Collins, Charlie Karsmo was booking everything at that.

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Did you audition for that? Yeah, you must have been

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:25.960
<v Speaker 1>part of the Hook. But we did the same thing

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 1>with the Little Arcade or Win the video game the

0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 1>game Room. Yeah, when I auditioned for Spielberg for a

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Little Giants, all right, yeah that's crazy. And then and

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:39.880
<v Speaker 1>then yeah they gave it to Julia Roberts instead. Yeah.

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I had a meeting at amble And a couple of

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>years ago and I was like the last time I

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 1>was here, I was and I was like, and they

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:47.319
<v Speaker 1>were like, they still have a game room. Apparently they

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 1>still have it. So that's amazing. Really, I hope they

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 1>updated it now they need like PS five No, it

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>was would be great. Writer would still kill it at

0:48:57.120 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Writer was the best Street Fighter two player in the

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>his three of the game. Oh, you guys used to

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:08.239
<v Speaker 1>play video games on set too? Sure in that you

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 1>guys were doing that when I was on set that

0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:14.239
<v Speaker 1>they wanted us to exercise the first season and in

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the second season they're like, that's fine, given some video

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:18.919
<v Speaker 1>games and some ping pong and will count it table.

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, wow, but didn't we all have like

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:26.240
<v Speaker 1>the video games back then? Though video games are cool,

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:30.080
<v Speaker 1>there's two buttons. Now I'm that guy. I'm like, it's

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:33.840
<v Speaker 1>loud and I don't know what the actual black guys. Guy,

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 1>your one year old son has he seen your work?

0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:40.759
<v Speaker 1>What does he have a favorite? Tell me? Tell me

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 1>what your kids have seen and what they love. Okay,

0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 1>my son, Uh, he's always telling people about Candy Band

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and baby Body. Yeah, he's the one to tell me

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:57.040
<v Speaker 1>about your podcast. Want to tell me about the podcast?

0:49:57.080 --> 0:50:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to him. He was like, they're doing this podcast.

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:04.919
<v Speaker 1>They're talking about you and boy this world. I said,

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:06.799
<v Speaker 1>all right, son, I told him, I said, hey, they

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>contacted me. They want me to be on the show.

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:11.840
<v Speaker 1>So I told him that Junior Duan Jr. Is the

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 1>one that's following in my footsteps for the most part,

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and then probably in a little bit because he's dabbling.

0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:20.880
<v Speaker 1>He's in high school, so you know he dabbles in band,

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:24.400
<v Speaker 1>he dabbles in acting. Well, he said, do want Juniors?

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:26.439
<v Speaker 1>Is doing music? Is there is there anything we can

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:32.200
<v Speaker 1>we can listen to on? He goes Bob they Kwan

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<v Speaker 1>the Guy and he's on Apple He's on Apple Music. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure he might be on Spotify too, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's on Apple Music. Um, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>working progress. You know he's doing he's doing songs here.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't done a full like album or anything yet,

0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:54.319
<v Speaker 1>but he's been releasing some singles and as he works

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<v Speaker 1>with his friend who has a studio. I actually went

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<v Speaker 1>to school for audio engineering a few years back. So um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's active in it. But like I said, where

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<v Speaker 1>can people find you? Now? Where can people? People are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna listen to this, They're gonna want to see what

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:14.399
<v Speaker 1>you're working on? What are you doing now? And where

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<v Speaker 1>can we find you? Where can you find me? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Will I have an Instagram? I have what is your

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram name? I think it's just the one guy, or

0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 1>it might be look look like a guy, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the one guy. And then I put on

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:34.839
<v Speaker 1>their actor and I have my Facebook which is just

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<v Speaker 1>the one guy um and my Winner which is at

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:43.719
<v Speaker 1>guy Demand. I look forward to getting more in to

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<v Speaker 1>do some doing some more acting. I've worked on some

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<v Speaker 1>projects what you what you call those? Uh not independent project,

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:55.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, the independent projects. I've done a few of

0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:58.319
<v Speaker 1>those just to keep my chops up. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I love acting, so I do it for free, even

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<v Speaker 1>though we love the month, we love to get paid

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, but um, you know I do it

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<v Speaker 1>for free and I have done it for free. And

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<v Speaker 1>other than I actually worked on the project together and

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<v Speaker 1>he played my son. Well, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us to on. It was a real pleasure. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for having me or I'll see. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>really the first time I've ever met to one. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't in an episode with That's true, isn't it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't. I didn't have like a specific, you know,

0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:37.399
<v Speaker 1>memory of being on set with him, and but uh yeah, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean what a career he's had. He was on everything,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean everything nineties he was on Well, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>get when you're you know, I mean at that age,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you work, you just keep working. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like as a kid actor, especially back then, like there

0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:55.960
<v Speaker 1>weren't there just weren't that many of us. You know,

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:59.279
<v Speaker 1>there was that very you got the talent. I mean,

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:02.080
<v Speaker 1>he had had the talent to stay working. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the other thing is it's people forget that where

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like, yeah, you worked a lot if

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<v Speaker 1>you were a young actor, but if you were a

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:13.640
<v Speaker 1>talented young actor, um, and and if you had like

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<v Speaker 1>a good family or you know, because if we're a nightmare,

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<v Speaker 1>like you get hired again and casting directors would remember

0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 1>that and the word would get out and that happened

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. You know, kids would be really talented, but

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<v Speaker 1>the their their social skills or their parents or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it was, you know, a dangerous situation for

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<v Speaker 1>a set to have that person around. So those people

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't work. But it's not like he was very grounded

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<v Speaker 1>and had his community and everything that he needed. So yeah,

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