Speaker 1: Okay, So I have a question, Um, do you ever
Speaker 1: have moments where you think that maybe you're weird? And
Speaker 1: I also have those moments about you all the time.
Speaker 1: I know, Well, here's the thing that might So that's life, man,
Speaker 1: Every moment of life is thinking will's weird? How How
Speaker 1: do you put on your socks and shoes? Oh? God,
Speaker 1: I put on socks, sock, shoe, shoe. Okay, so yeah,
Speaker 1: then I'm weird Yoh yeah, yeah, why you do one sock,
Speaker 1: one shoe? Yeah? So I like, I I sit down
Speaker 1: and I Mr Rogers, did I put one leg up
Speaker 1: over the other? I put on a sock and a
Speaker 1: shoe and tie it and put it down, and then
Speaker 1: put the other leg up and put on a sock
Speaker 1: and shoe and tie it. Like why would I put
Speaker 1: on a put on a sock and then put my
Speaker 1: foot down and put up my other foot and put
Speaker 1: on a sock and then put that down, and then
Speaker 1: put up my other foot and put on a shoe
Speaker 1: and put it. Seems like I'm doubling my workload. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll go I I put my socks on before I
Speaker 1: put my pants on. M hmm, interesting, Okay, I know
Speaker 1: I think I do that. So the most comfortable order
Speaker 1: for me is I have underwear. I put socks on,
Speaker 1: then I put pants on, then I put shoes on,
Speaker 1: and don't wear I was gonna say the shirt on shirtless. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I mean I've never thought about this. Is That's why
Speaker 1: I was curious, because because I I caught a kind
Speaker 1: of a glimpse of myself with just one fully tied
Speaker 1: shoe on one side and one bare foot, and I
Speaker 1: was just went, is this normal? Do most people do this?
Speaker 1: Or am I the weird one? Yet? Again? I think
Speaker 1: it's one of those internet things where you know, toilet
Speaker 1: paper over under like obviously um scandal where people weren't
Speaker 1: washing their legs. Yeah, don't even get me started. It
Speaker 1: was hardly a scandal. Someone said, a famous person said
Speaker 1: that they don't wash their legs in the shower because
Speaker 1: the soap just runs down their legs from their upper
Speaker 1: body and gravity. I get it, I get, okay, I
Speaker 1: mean I can't believe you get it. Of course, it
Speaker 1: seems crazy to get that statement. I mean, sure, gravity
Speaker 1: has been dirty, soapy water running down your legs, but
Speaker 1: something both dirty and soapy isn't That isn't that you
Speaker 1: are dirty up here and you wash it with a
Speaker 1: washcloth or soap, and now this soap is kind of
Speaker 1: like dirty because it's going to run off your body.
Speaker 1: You're clean once the water rinses that off. This dirty
Speaker 1: soapy nous dripping down your legs is not the same
Speaker 1: as cleaning your legs. I don't use soap in the shower, though.
Speaker 1: I wash my entire body with head and shoulder shampoo.
Speaker 1: That's the truth. Okay, No, I do, yeah because of
Speaker 1: dan druff, just because it's there and it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just grab it and use it. Forget
Speaker 1: wash class. I've never used a wash cloth in my life,
Speaker 1: and I I don't wash my face with anything but
Speaker 1: water and then I just used the shampoo. I like,
Speaker 1: I shampoo my hair and then I just use it
Speaker 1: in the rest of my body. All right, I do.
Speaker 1: But I'm not wearing shoes in the shower. That's good,
Speaker 1: That's pretty normal. I Uh. We have a mostly shoes
Speaker 1: off house. Like we don't insist when people walk in
Speaker 1: that they take their shoes off, but we walk around
Speaker 1: our house without our shoes on. So socks and shoes
Speaker 1: is like the last thing I'm doing before I run
Speaker 1: out the door, I get completely dressed and then go
Speaker 1: downstairs barefoot, and then like right before I'm ready to
Speaker 1: run out the door, I'm like quick, put on socks
Speaker 1: and shoes, and then I put on both socks and
Speaker 1: then both shoes. But I'm that way anyway, Like I
Speaker 1: like to complete all of one step. I like an
Speaker 1: assembly line of of production, like when I helped Jensen
Speaker 1: Jensen as a pin company, and when Jensen has made
Speaker 1: a new shirt or he's made a new pin, and
Speaker 1: I want to put all the pins on the paperbacks first,
Speaker 1: and then I want to organize them into their piles,
Speaker 1: and then I want to put them all in the envelopes.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do one order at a time, like, oh,
Speaker 1: here's four pins, let me put these four pins on
Speaker 1: these four backs and then put them like I'm not
Speaker 1: going to do that once. I want to do it
Speaker 1: for everyone. I'm just very glad you said when you
Speaker 1: help Jensen with his pin company, because when you jumped
Speaker 1: in instantly I thought you're gonna say when I help
Speaker 1: Jensen get dressed. Yeah, well he does need a lot
Speaker 1: about getting dressed. Wow, Okay, his clothes for him the
Speaker 1: night before exactly. Oh my goodness. Wow, well I still
Speaker 1: think you're superhero underwear is somehow even weirder than washing
Speaker 1: your body with shampoo. I got two new marvels and
Speaker 1: an amazing Hulk, But the Hulk is um he It's
Speaker 1: it's like sleeping shorts. I was hoping it was more
Speaker 1: like the jockeys that I could really wear out. But
Speaker 1: they're not. They're like Big Boxer's a warm last night.
Speaker 1: They are hoak smash. They are great. So yeah, awesome.
Speaker 1: And let me ask you this, will, was was there
Speaker 1: a phase? Okay, so when you were a little kid,
Speaker 1: you were probably superhero underwear. Did you just keep wearing
Speaker 1: superhero underwear all through your life or was there like
Speaker 1: a mini adulthood where you stopped war like boxers or briefs.
Speaker 1: I think I went through that. Yeah, I went through
Speaker 1: that young life crisis where I tried regular underwear, you know,
Speaker 1: But then I realized who I was and stayed true
Speaker 1: to it, and I was like, no, this is not
Speaker 1: me right here. Oh boy, welcome to Pod meets World.
Speaker 1: I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm brad Or Strong, and I'm Wilfredell. Well,
Speaker 1: let's bring in our guest for today. He is somebody
Speaker 1: we have had the pleasure of watching on Boy Meat's
Speaker 1: World a couple of times now that we're into the
Speaker 1: first season. He is honestly the most fleshed out third
Speaker 1: friend of any of the third friends we had, and
Speaker 1: he's definitely the most memorable. He is best known as
Speaker 1: Jake and Clive Barker's classic horror movie Candy Man. He
Speaker 1: appeared in Little Giants and Baby Boy on TV and
Speaker 1: shows like Fresh, Prince of bel Air, and Living Color,
Speaker 1: Sister Sister, and he had a recurring role on Boston Public.
Speaker 1: I am really excited to welcome to One. Guy who
Speaker 1: played Ellis in two episodes of Boy Meets World. Welcome
Speaker 1: to One. Welcome. How are you? I'm doing good? How
Speaker 1: are you? We are doing well? Man, We are so
Speaker 1: excited to have you here. You grew up. You grew up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I grew up. I definitely grew up. And I even
Speaker 1: have a grown up. I got a little grown up myself.
Speaker 1: How old is your little grown up? Funny one, he
Speaker 1: just became really grown up. You have a real grown
Speaker 1: up A definitely. I have four total, four kids, four
Speaker 1: kids totalm Wow, that's anyone, fourteen ten and uh four, Wow,
Speaker 1: they really run, Yes they do. And my fourth is
Speaker 1: my girl and she has me wrapped around her pink.
Speaker 1: That's not totally surprising. Go on, I am dying to know.
Speaker 1: How were you cast on Boy Meat's World. What was
Speaker 1: the auditioning process for you? What did you know about
Speaker 1: the role? Tell us everything, he said, tell us, look, look,
Speaker 1: look everything, tell us everything. I mean, it was back
Speaker 1: in the day. You had the head shots and you
Speaker 1: go you go in with your head shot and and
Speaker 1: do your audition. And I was just going on so
Speaker 1: many you know, and I went out from Boy Meat's
Speaker 1: World and you know, I got it. I found out,
Speaker 1: I booked it, and I was like it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: this will be a fun show to work on, you know.
Speaker 1: So I remember wardrobe asking what I wanted to wear,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to wear cross colors. I remember that.
Speaker 1: I remember. Uh, there's a lot of things I remember, right.
Speaker 1: I remember we went and played basketball with the kids
Speaker 1: from Home Improvement. Yeah, there was a daily occurrence that
Speaker 1: that that that was. That was a fun thing to do.
Speaker 1: We have fun on this set. You know. It's funny
Speaker 1: because I don't remember ever being asked what I wanted
Speaker 1: to wear. No, I was gonna say that. That was that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So hearing that they got that you got some input
Speaker 1: is pretty great because I would have at least picked
Speaker 1: a belt. You didn't get to pick anything. No, not
Speaker 1: not not if memory serves I mean, did you does
Speaker 1: anybody remember having at least in the beginning. I don't
Speaker 1: remember having any input. Maybe as we got older, we
Speaker 1: could have a little input when it came to maybe
Speaker 1: they just looked at you and me Will and they
Speaker 1: were like, you guys have no style, so don't worry
Speaker 1: because I had no style. I like, I said, you
Speaker 1: know what that was that. I'm not gonna not going
Speaker 1: to mention other sets. But that wasn't the only set
Speaker 1: that I worked on where they asked me what I
Speaker 1: wanted to wear, what I was into? That was not
Speaker 1: like uncommon in the nineties, I guess, because you know,
Speaker 1: I've worked on a lot of different shows and it
Speaker 1: wasn't I mean, it's not like I had a final say,
Speaker 1: but they'd be like, hey, what do you like? What
Speaker 1: are you into? You know? And you know, sometimes I
Speaker 1: get to wear it. Sometimes I wouldn't. And back then
Speaker 1: you got to peep clothes sometimes that that that day ended.
Speaker 1: I remember when that ended. They used to get after
Speaker 1: everything was shot and done, and they might let you
Speaker 1: keep some clothes. Well, you mentioned other sets. Why don't
Speaker 1: you tell us about some of the other shows you
Speaker 1: did during the nineties and what those experiences were like.
Speaker 1: And then I want to ask you about any specific
Speaker 1: memories you have from being on the set of Boy
Speaker 1: Meats World. But tell us about some of the other
Speaker 1: shows you did. Well. I worked on Fresh Prince Bellair.
Speaker 1: How fun was that? That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: It was a very loose set, like it was everybody
Speaker 1: you know, we it was taped in front of a
Speaker 1: line of audience. So what we would do is we're
Speaker 1: getting Will's dressing room and kind of have a little
Speaker 1: hype up moment where he's like rapping and and doing
Speaker 1: all these things, and then um, you know, we're dancing
Speaker 1: around and everybody's getting hyped for the audience. So that
Speaker 1: was fun. That was fun, and Will was so cool.
Speaker 1: He even had Nike sent me some shoes for Christmas. So, like,
Speaker 1: like I said, I was getting stuff in the nineties
Speaker 1: one way, you know, like I was getting stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: let's see what in Living Color Um that was a
Speaker 1: hot show and I needs and I got a chance
Speaker 1: to work on that, and that's one of my favorite shows.
Speaker 1: So and the thing is what that show is they
Speaker 1: would have skits and sometimes they wouldn't get to your skit.
Speaker 1: So I think I got hired like five times and
Speaker 1: then I worked three times. So that show was a
Speaker 1: little different than any thing else that I've worked on
Speaker 1: because usually gonna at least shoot it, even though I
Speaker 1: put you on a shopping black later, at least get
Speaker 1: to shoot it right. But on that show and be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're not getting to this. Get you can go home now.
Speaker 1: But that's really cool because you know, that was obviously
Speaker 1: a show that had like a regular cast, So I mean,
Speaker 1: you were really rare in the sense that you were
Speaker 1: like a recurring guest star on the show, where I
Speaker 1: wasn't super common recurring guest star because I did do
Speaker 1: like I said, I did do three episodes. But the
Speaker 1: biggest thing in the nineties for me was Candy Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was you know, that's the thing that
Speaker 1: has people going to this day is Candy Man. And
Speaker 1: I've done horror conventions and things like that. And people
Speaker 1: have me signing all kind of custom made stuff, mirrors
Speaker 1: with hooks coming out of it, and just you know,
Speaker 1: stuff so freaks me out. It's so freak that in
Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, just just talk about in living color,
Speaker 1: just talk about in living color. I don't want to
Speaker 1: get into the horror stuff. It scared me. You know.
Speaker 1: I worked on Baywatch too. I didn't really and they
Speaker 1: made a two part episode where I was like this
Speaker 1: little kid in the wheelchair, and that was one of
Speaker 1: the more challenging roles I did, because of course I'm
Speaker 1: not actually handicapped. I wasn't in a wheelchair, but I
Speaker 1: had gotten shot and I was in a wheelchair, but
Speaker 1: I was actually the character was kind of supposed to
Speaker 1: be in um protective well I don't know, pro technic
Speaker 1: custody or not technical. They're supposed to, yeah, protecting there,
Speaker 1: you're right. So I'm highly out at this rehab and
Speaker 1: then Daved Householf you know his niche comes in because
Speaker 1: he gets hurt, so he's at the rehab and of
Speaker 1: course he ends up saving the day. But they made
Speaker 1: that a two part episode, which was a big deal,
Speaker 1: and they had like a we did like a little
Speaker 1: premier for it and everything it was. It was kind
Speaker 1: of like a big deal. Yeah, so okay, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I have to have a question because I I'm talking.
Speaker 1: It's I don't even know how to word this. Because
Speaker 1: Candyman and You've got fresh principal air in living color,
Speaker 1: Sister Sister, Boy Me Tworld. It's like some of the
Speaker 1: most iconic nineties shows throwing another one on the mix?
Speaker 1: Is there one that when you look back on, that's
Speaker 1: the one where you say sister? I think with Sister
Speaker 1: Sister too again, every every one, So is there one
Speaker 1: you look back on and say, Yeah, that's the one
Speaker 1: I'm the most proud of because of whatever reason. But
Speaker 1: it's the last ridiculous when it comes to nineties shows
Speaker 1: that you're on. Yeah, wow, almost it was World. No,
Speaker 1: It's okay, answer why definitely? But I had a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. I had a lot of fun work. I
Speaker 1: even worked with Simbad and the late great Green Hinds.
Speaker 1: The first movie I actually worked when ever was Boy
Speaker 1: Is in the Hood. My scene got cut, so I
Speaker 1: got the experience of being on the chopping block first
Speaker 1: before there was Boys in the Hood. What developed my
Speaker 1: relationship with John Singleton, the late John Singleton, and I
Speaker 1: later did Baby Boy when I got a little older.
Speaker 1: I did the movie Baby Boy with you know Tyreese
Speaker 1: and wait, let's go, let's take a step back, Joan,
Speaker 1: how did you get started? Like, how did you become
Speaker 1: an actor? You? You grew up in We're right where
Speaker 1: we need to be because it was the Boys in
Speaker 1: the Hood story. Okay, so this is what happens. I'm
Speaker 1: not even living in Los Angeles. I'm living in Dayton, Ohio.
Speaker 1: My aunt lives in Los Angeles, and I visited her
Speaker 1: during the summer and go to like this acting school,
Speaker 1: Marley Gibbs Acting School, if you remember anybody knows of
Speaker 1: course she had with women Mayo from Tamford and Son. Uh.
Speaker 1: They had an acting school. And at this acting school
Speaker 1: there were classes for the adults and their classes for
Speaker 1: the kids. I did the classes for the kids. But
Speaker 1: what happened. She was doing a scene from A Raisin
Speaker 1: in the Sun and she had me come in and
Speaker 1: and play the sun. And then John Singleton was in
Speaker 1: that class, and he was like, I want him for
Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood. But I eight and they needed
Speaker 1: like a twelve year old and I was eight and
Speaker 1: I looked six, probably because I always looked young for
Speaker 1: my age, and you know, you know Plumbia Pictures now Sony,
Speaker 1: they were like, you know, no, uh, this is not
Speaker 1: gonna work for because it was like a lot of
Speaker 1: profanity and all of that. You know, it wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: work with this little kid doing it. They weren't. They
Speaker 1: were gonna have that where you supposed to be at
Speaker 1: the beginning when it was when there was all of
Speaker 1: them younger. It was gonna be the young trade, which
Speaker 1: later good. So um, but what he did have me do,
Speaker 1: He had me do this little part and I ride
Speaker 1: up on my bike and I say, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say it because it's kind of uh provocative when I
Speaker 1: say this line to Cuba and his girlfriend on the
Speaker 1: porch because they're kissing. And then I ride off with
Speaker 1: my friends and he throws rocks at us and I
Speaker 1: ride off with my friends. That's what I shot. That's
Speaker 1: what I actually did, and that got cut and then later, um,
Speaker 1: how it really was kind of similar to the Baby
Speaker 1: Boy was did you find out it got cut before
Speaker 1: or did you go to the movie thinking that you'd
Speaker 1: see it. I found out I had gone back to Ohio,
Speaker 1: and I found that. My aunt told me because she
Speaker 1: had went to the screening and she told me she
Speaker 1: got cut too because she had a partner movie too,
Speaker 1: and they cut hers too because it is it's a
Speaker 1: it's a rough It's a brilliant film, but it's a
Speaker 1: rough film. Would you have been allowed to see it? Um?
Speaker 1: What I've been allowed? I did see it? You did
Speaker 1: when you were eight? They like you what you saw?
Speaker 1: Boyzen hood? Okay. I was wondering if they you know,
Speaker 1: it was one of those things where it was too rough,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't were gonna let you watch it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was a different day in a different time. I saw.
Speaker 1: I saw horror movies. I saw Freddy Cooper Baby wasn't
Speaker 1: uh people today they'd be like, oh, hey, you're watching that,
Speaker 1: But did you did you occasionally get the eyes the
Speaker 1: hand in front of the eyes. That's what I would
Speaker 1: get with my mom or dad would put their hands
Speaker 1: like that would stop something. Yeah, yeah, definitely, we'll get
Speaker 1: their hand over there eyeing the nudity scene or something
Speaker 1: like that. But yep, yep, same. So I want to
Speaker 1: go into how did you get candy man? Candy man.
Speaker 1: All right, candy man, lots of kids. I just shoot
Speaker 1: your candy man. And the part I remember is the
Speaker 1: last audition. Virginia Mason comes running out to the parking.
Speaker 1: I tell me you got it, you got it, you
Speaker 1: got the park you know, and I'm like, whoa, that
Speaker 1: never happened. Only other times that happened was on Baywatch.
Speaker 1: And I walked out of the casting room knowing that
Speaker 1: I got casted, and everybody was still in their uh
Speaker 1: wait in the audition. I thought you were gonna say,
Speaker 1: Virginia Madsen came running after you, saying you got Baywatch,
Speaker 1: you got Baywatch? Oh no, no, no, that it was
Speaker 1: Handyman and Baywatch A two times that I found out
Speaker 1: like instantly that I was cast. That's fine, that's kind
Speaker 1: of the old school Hollywood way. You get that kind
Speaker 1: of you know, congratulations, you got the part. Kid. They
Speaker 1: don't do that anymore. Yeah, days out with that everything.
Speaker 1: They don't even let you come in an audition anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you guys are seeing Henry Thomas's audition for et.
Speaker 1: It's unreal. One of the craziest things in the world.
Speaker 1: It's they it's you just see, it's a close up
Speaker 1: of his face and you can hear Steven Spielberg saying
Speaker 1: giving him instructions like okay, that the alien's going away
Speaker 1: and you just want have to say goodbye to him
Speaker 1: and he's your best friend, and he improvises the saying
Speaker 1: don't don't take him away, and he starts crying and
Speaker 1: it's the most emotion. It's like, it's one of the
Speaker 1: most incredible. It's almost better than he is in the movie.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's amazing, just came to life. And then
Speaker 1: he stops in the New Year Spielberg, Well, you got
Speaker 1: the park kids, so it's amazing. Speaking of stillborn Steven Spielberg,
Speaker 1: I worked with him too. It was yeah, little giants.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you literally were a part of every
Speaker 1: iconic nineties thing. Yes, that's another crazy story. Um, if
Speaker 1: I might just I'll tell you real quick. Basically, you know,
Speaker 1: I went an audition, probably for one of the regular
Speaker 1: parts like everybody else, and I didn't really fit for
Speaker 1: what they were looking for. But still, from what I heard,
Speaker 1: Spielberg wanted me to be in the film anyway, so
Speaker 1: they put me in the beginning of the film when
Speaker 1: they're like the sixties and they're like playing like a
Speaker 1: little game of football in the park and his you know,
Speaker 1: a little brother doesn't get picked and all that. So
Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun. Talk about junk food
Speaker 1: on set. Every it was like ice crape bars, like
Speaker 1: it was totally catered to kids. Like that set was
Speaker 1: loaded with like just all the stuff that kids would like,
Speaker 1: all the you know, the candies, the ice cream, the
Speaker 1: jump food. How long did you shoot that? How long
Speaker 1: was was that production? Um? I actually I worked a
Speaker 1: few days, but I only shot like I don't think
Speaker 1: maybe one or two days I shot or something. They had.
Speaker 1: That was one of those sets where you might just
Speaker 1: come and hang around all day a book your school
Speaker 1: out do your was three hours of school, get your
Speaker 1: school booked in, and then you're just hanging out, Hey,
Speaker 1: hanging out. You know, Yeah, we do a lot. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you remember doing a lot of that hanging out. Well,
Speaker 1: that's that's a good question. Do you do you remember?
Speaker 1: I mean, how much of your schooling when you were
Speaker 1: growing up was actually done on set? Schools? A good
Speaker 1: amount between fourth in the eighth grade, wow, between the
Speaker 1: fourth and eighth grade, a good amount. It was like
Speaker 1: once I got the high school, things slowed down because
Speaker 1: you know, how would you the cash you at eighteen
Speaker 1: to play twelve? But basically, um, between fourth grade and
Speaker 1: eighth grade, I was definitely doing a lot of school
Speaker 1: on the set, which uh, and my teachers were great.
Speaker 1: I went to a private school, so they did you
Speaker 1: move out to l A at that point or were
Speaker 1: you I moved out to l A right before Candy Man, Okay,
Speaker 1: so it was like right after the Boys in the Hood.
Speaker 1: I went back to Ohio and then my mom was like, look,
Speaker 1: if this looks like this might be a gig for you,
Speaker 1: or you know, this looks like this might be a thing.
Speaker 1: You know, if you book something else, you can stay
Speaker 1: out there with your aunt and you know my uncle.
Speaker 1: And that's what happened. I book Candy Man and let
Speaker 1: me color and I just started working. So my stage
Speaker 1: I went to a private school, which, um, I think
Speaker 1: it was good coming up being that I was in
Speaker 1: the city, so you know, we had prayer in school
Speaker 1: and all that good stuff. So that so he was
Speaker 1: like driving you to auditions and stuff. Is that your on?
Speaker 1: My I was driving me to auditions. She was that
Speaker 1: sounds like she was an actor too, Yes, she she, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, she went to UH college and study theater
Speaker 1: and used to do all kind of competitions, speech competitions
Speaker 1: and plays and all kinds of stuff. But she put
Speaker 1: her career to aside and and basically focused on me.
Speaker 1: And I was taking me on my auditions, was my
Speaker 1: acting coach on set, mom, all of that good stuff.
Speaker 1: So um yeah, shout out to my Yes. Hey everyone.
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Speaker 1: podcasts you'll love, especially ours, Daniel, I have to go back.
Speaker 1: I apologize, but I'm such a fan of In Living Color. Um.
Speaker 1: Which cast members did you get to work with? I'm
Speaker 1: dying to know who you were actually in the show
Speaker 1: with because it was one of David Allen Greer and
Speaker 1: Jamie Foxx. I mean it was like one of the best,
Speaker 1: was one of the fly girls. I mean it was
Speaker 1: The cast was incredible. So who did you get to
Speaker 1: work with while you were there? David Allen Greer, Jim Carrey, Wow,
Speaker 1: Jamie fox It was an episode one episode? I did, uh,
Speaker 1: David Allen Greer, I was like just like a Native
Speaker 1: American with the bow and arrow kind of thing, and
Speaker 1: he had hemorrhoids. I don't know, it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: color they had like some Woe. The other one with
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey h which Jamie Fox was a part of
Speaker 1: two was it was like make a death wish. So
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be the sick kid and he's let
Speaker 1: me do whatever I want to do. You let me
Speaker 1: playing the super Bowl, you know, flying airplane. Oh jeez.
Speaker 1: So that was a lot of fun working with Jim
Speaker 1: Carey and Jamie Fox and David that was a fun
Speaker 1: set to work on. It was I do a really
Speaker 1: great fire Marshal Bill impersonation that I won't do because
Speaker 1: you can't bring that up and then say I'm not
Speaker 1: going that's not It was such a huge fan But
Speaker 1: let me tell you a right, pretty good right. The
Speaker 1: best part that you didn't really get to stands that
Speaker 1: I can do the next How did you pop them out?
Speaker 1: So like normally I have to dry my teeth? How
Speaker 1: did you You just did it instantly? I can go
Speaker 1: right into it A long time. I spent a long
Speaker 1: time perfecting that well, because in Living Color came after
Speaker 1: I'm Going to Get You Sucker, which is one of
Speaker 1: the funniest eighties movies ever, and and Ivory Waynes wrote
Speaker 1: and directed and started it and it was so good,
Speaker 1: and David Allen Greer shined in that movie at a
Speaker 1: tiny part and was hysterical. And I remember every time
Speaker 1: watching In Living Color going how is he not the
Speaker 1: biggest comedian in the world. How is David Angrier not
Speaker 1: the biggest comedian? He's so funny and was one of
Speaker 1: those underrated kind of people. And then In Living Color
Speaker 1: came out and I was like, Oh, finally he's got
Speaker 1: a shot. So at the idea that you're on set
Speaker 1: and you're working with David Allen Greer and Jim Carrey
Speaker 1: and Jamie Fox, I didn't know if it was gonna
Speaker 1: be a recurring role. I think I did know at
Speaker 1: one point that was gonna come back again, you know,
Speaker 1: after the first episode. Uh, but it's fine to find
Speaker 1: out about. I was excited about it. I was My
Speaker 1: agent used to do a thing where she would ring
Speaker 1: the bill. She had a bill so if you booked something,
Speaker 1: she would ring the bill. So I was you know,
Speaker 1: I was definite when I heard the bill ring and
Speaker 1: I know it was Winn's World. I was excited about it.
Speaker 1: It was gonna you know, be on a cool studio
Speaker 1: lot and um, yeah, you know, have a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: You know, we were with those water guns. We were
Speaker 1: having fun with that water war. Then it was the
Speaker 1: painting Defense and you know, working with Ben and then
Speaker 1: Fred came on set and I got to meet him,
Speaker 1: and I knew him from the Wonder Years. So I
Speaker 1: was like, that was kind of plas I remember when
Speaker 1: you was a kid working on the Wonder Years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I remember him coming on set. Um, have you
Speaker 1: heard us talk about what we lovingly dubbed as the
Speaker 1: death chair? No? What is what? What did you call
Speaker 1: the death chair? So? The death chair was the chair
Speaker 1: of the Third Friend. That was basically the first season
Speaker 1: of Boy Meets World. For at least the first several episodes,
Speaker 1: they were really trying to find that third friend. It
Speaker 1: was gonna be Corey, Sean and this other friend, and
Speaker 1: they were going through kids and kids would come on
Speaker 1: and they do one episode and then we'd never see
Speaker 1: them again, and you run of the rare guests that
Speaker 1: stayed for two episodes. And so I was wondering if
Speaker 1: you had heard us talk about that at all? And
Speaker 1: do you remember then finding out you weren't going to
Speaker 1: come back after after you had done two episodes? Was
Speaker 1: there ever any sort of conversation about not coming back
Speaker 1: or was it just that you didn't get another call? Uh,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't get a call to come back. Um,
Speaker 1: I thought it was a possibility because I did two episodes,
Speaker 1: and anytime you do two episodes. Later, when I worked
Speaker 1: on Boston Public, you know that means more episodes. Possibly
Speaker 1: I became recurring. And you know, I learned early on
Speaker 1: in this business. Remember the Boys in the Hood story,
Speaker 1: So I learned early on that you just kind of
Speaker 1: gotta best yourself off and move on to the next
Speaker 1: but not take it personally. But I definitely had a
Speaker 1: great time working with everybody on the set, and you
Speaker 1: know it was Yeah, then don't forget it was Mincaus.
Speaker 1: Mincus is the one that stopped for a little while. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've talked about. Now. I have a question for everybody,
Speaker 1: because I honestly don't know. Do you think, as they
Speaker 1: were trying to find this third friend because they have
Speaker 1: to write the scripts ahead of time, so they're they're
Speaker 1: working on scripts down the line, do you think they'd
Speaker 1: bring a friend on and have that friend in two
Speaker 1: or three episodes and then the actor didn't work out,
Speaker 1: so they take them out of future scripts or do
Speaker 1: you think they were never put into future scripts? Like
Speaker 1: how would that work? Well, you gotta think with kid actors,
Speaker 1: it's not just the kid, it's everything that comes with
Speaker 1: the kid. I'm gonna leave it there. I'm gonna leave
Speaker 1: it there. It's not just the kid. It's the full package,
Speaker 1: whatever that is. I look at it, it's the full package.
Speaker 1: And I think maybe they were unsure in some cases,
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe the full package just wasn't the
Speaker 1: right fit. And you know, who knows is a number
Speaker 1: of reasons, especially dealing with child actors, that could be
Speaker 1: you know, who really knows. I wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: because you mentioned being able to dust yourself off because
Speaker 1: of your very first experience with boys in the hood.
Speaker 1: How do you dust yourself off? What are your like
Speaker 1: skills and what how do you not take something personally?
Speaker 1: It's it's something that I think actors deal with all
Speaker 1: the time, the rejection, but it's not something that um
Speaker 1: that people outside of the entertainment industry have to deal
Speaker 1: with that often. Uh, And so what are your skills
Speaker 1: for dusting yourself off? Well, one thing that I was
Speaker 1: pretty as a young kid, teenager, I was active in
Speaker 1: my church, So I didn't just have I wasn't just
Speaker 1: solely focused on, you know, just school and then working
Speaker 1: on somebody's set. You know. I was inquires praise teams.
Speaker 1: So there's the faith based there. And um, there was
Speaker 1: a time when I even turned down a role because
Speaker 1: I had committed to doing you know, MC in a
Speaker 1: concert and leading some songs at a concert from my church.
Speaker 1: And it was a movie we all turned down. And
Speaker 1: it ended up being my grandmother rest in peace, who
Speaker 1: was like a mother to me. I was very close to.
Speaker 1: I got a couple of tattoos dedicated to her. Uh.
Speaker 1: She passed in two thousand one and it was the
Speaker 1: last thing she saw me do was that concert, and
Speaker 1: she would have never saw the movie. So um, and
Speaker 1: I'm still active in my church and I sent on
Speaker 1: to praise team at my church now. Uh but I think,
Speaker 1: like I said, I went to the private school and
Speaker 1: some of my faith based kind of helped God. This
Speaker 1: is not all I'm living for is to be on
Speaker 1: television already get a role. Um, but yeah, anybody is
Speaker 1: disappointed you audition for. I remember some big stuff I
Speaker 1: audition for. I distion for the Jackson vide movie and
Speaker 1: I auditioned for the Wood. I there's a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff that I auditioned for that I didn't book for
Speaker 1: whatever reason. And I think, I think your answer is
Speaker 1: exactly right, man. I think having a community outside of
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry, you know, because so many kid actors, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: it becomes their parents life to you know, like that
Speaker 1: their kids work or not. Work becomes so important to
Speaker 1: their parents. And then you know, especially if you're moving
Speaker 1: from somewhere else to come to Los Angeles, you don't
Speaker 1: have a community. You know, people don't have community, so
Speaker 1: they come here and like you see, you know at
Speaker 1: the Oak Waid apartments, the you know, it's usually a
Speaker 1: mom with their kid and they're isolated from their community
Speaker 1: and the career becomes everything. And that the pressure that
Speaker 1: that puts on a kid. Oh, you know, like for me,
Speaker 1: because the support system. You know what, even though I
Speaker 1: was making money, of course, um I didn't get that pressure.
Speaker 1: Nobody pressure like you know, I was. I was pulling
Speaker 1: my weight so to speak, for whatever, you know, obvious reasons.
Speaker 1: But I um, I never got the pressure like I
Speaker 1: had to work, like you have to book this gig,
Speaker 1: you know, you haven't booked a gig in six months.
Speaker 1: I never got I never got that pressure, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad I didn't. I was very because I'm sure that
Speaker 1: there are probably were kids out there in the industry
Speaker 1: where that we're getting that pressure. Who's you know. I
Speaker 1: was just in a situation where, you know, things were
Speaker 1: able to stay afloat, you know, and it wasn't all
Speaker 1: on me to keep everybody, you know, afloat, so to speak.
Speaker 1: And people who gave up their careers for their kids career,
Speaker 1: then that puts a lot pressure because Okay, if you
Speaker 1: don't book gigs, how's the rent don't get paid? How exactly,
Speaker 1: how's the car not gonna get paid? How'm gonna get
Speaker 1: you to your auditions? You know? Um, and auditions were
Speaker 1: everywhere back in the day. You you pull out the
Speaker 1: Thomas Guy, Thomas Guide, Thomas Guide. I remember flipping to
Speaker 1: the Thomas Guy and helping my mom like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: sitting staying back seat, flipping that and happy to be
Speaker 1: like be four bar and Boulevard is on B four
Speaker 1: And then you're like, I mean I figured out how
Speaker 1: to learn I learned how to read maps at a
Speaker 1: very young age, and I got very good at it,
Speaker 1: just so I could tell my mom, No, no, it's
Speaker 1: the other Ventura Boulevard, Like, oh my god. Can we
Speaker 1: explain very quickly to our our listeners what the Thomas
Speaker 1: Guide was, because I'm gonna tell us right now. A
Speaker 1: series of Los Angeles is a crazy giant city all
Speaker 1: built around the car. So it's you know, all freeways
Speaker 1: and all streets and highways. It's it's it's amaze. And
Speaker 1: so the famous maps that were produced were these giant
Speaker 1: books called Thomas Thomas Brothers Maps right there, Thomas Brothers,
Speaker 1: Thomas brother I was just a Thomas guy, Thomas Guy.
Speaker 1: I always called it the Thomas Guide, and it was.
Speaker 1: It was. Yeah, it was just a huge book. It was.
Speaker 1: But it had it had a spiral binders, the page
Speaker 1: spiral bindus. You can flip the pages back, and the
Speaker 1: pages were long. It was, they were there. It was
Speaker 1: bigger than a normal book eight and a half by eleven,
Speaker 1: but the eleven horizon it was horizontal with Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was landscape is the phrase. Yeah, it was like
Speaker 1: the landscape book. And you would have to flip through
Speaker 1: it and find you in the back where all the
Speaker 1: streets and with the numbers, and you have to search
Speaker 1: the index. It was like a you know, three page
Speaker 1: index of any street name. So if you got an audition,
Speaker 1: you would get the address and then you have to
Speaker 1: flip to the back of the Thomas Guide and you know,
Speaker 1: look it up and then it would tell you what
Speaker 1: page that that address in that street, and then it
Speaker 1: would give you the you know, whether it was BE
Speaker 1: four or C two or whatever, and you have then
Speaker 1: flip back to that page, isolate where it is and
Speaker 1: figure out where you are on the map. Anybody, did
Speaker 1: anybody have a beeper? Oh? Yo, of course they had
Speaker 1: the beeper? My page like, like, did anybody get that? No,
Speaker 1: they had an audition because they got a page. If
Speaker 1: you got access to a fax machine, you get the
Speaker 1: facts sides the facts and was kind of not working.
Speaker 1: So I have a question, So it rolled up the shiners.
Speaker 1: So I was told to get two things when I
Speaker 1: came out to Los Angeles. The Thomas Guide and what
Speaker 1: was the other thing everybody had in their car? Oh?
Speaker 1: The well I had. We had one of those Zach
Speaker 1: Morris car phones. Yeah, okay, we had answer one of
Speaker 1: those radars to tell you if the police that's a
Speaker 1: good answer. But no, the thing everybody had. You had
Speaker 1: the Thomas Guide and you had the club. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: done to your steering wheel and got really long so
Speaker 1: that they couldn't turn your your steering wheel like hit
Speaker 1: your windshield. Everybody had the club first car or something.
Speaker 1: I had the club, the Club and the Thomas Guide,
Speaker 1: and they scared the heck out of you because they say, oh,
Speaker 1: you're moving to l A. Get this thing called the Club,
Speaker 1: and if they don't steal your car, you can use
Speaker 1: it to defend yourself. I was like, what where am
Speaker 1: I moving to? That was the other thing. Every well
Speaker 1: down the beach and go. But the Thomas guy did
Speaker 1: you guys have to like playing your auditions, Like when
Speaker 1: you got your audition, like okay, map it out going, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: That there was no way to know how long it
Speaker 1: is going to take you to get there. There was
Speaker 1: like three hours. We were always we were always late.
Speaker 1: My mom was always so stressed out, Like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: the anxiety I get just thinking about this guy, and
Speaker 1: like how much pressure I felt, you know, because we
Speaker 1: were just always lost. We were always lost. Traffic was
Speaker 1: always a miserable. Oh my god. Well Los Angeles. You're
Speaker 1: either an hour early or two hours late every time.
Speaker 1: I hated being late, but you never if you were
Speaker 1: going to hit this crazy l a traffic or something
Speaker 1: that was just gonna put you in a parking lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so do wan. You mentioned auditioning for the Jackson five movie.
Speaker 1: What are is that? The is that like the craziest
Speaker 1: thing you auditioned for that didn't book? Or what's a
Speaker 1: project for all of you will writer? What is something
Speaker 1: you auditioned for that You're like, man, that could have
Speaker 1: been me, but I didn't book it? Um, baby boy?
Speaker 1: You looked it? What's the spill the key? Well? I
Speaker 1: remember you might not have heard this, but here I said,
Speaker 1: auditioned for Jody, which was Tyrese's character, the Leader. So
Speaker 1: I was like, I was. I was happy to do
Speaker 1: the film, of course, but it was like, if there's
Speaker 1: anything that I auditioned for, not as a kid, but
Speaker 1: that was the first thing that made me think of
Speaker 1: like baby boy, I wish i'd been am gonna do
Speaker 1: the leading that like that, but as a kid that
Speaker 1: I didn't book. Well, I actually I didn't book Boston
Speaker 1: Public the first few times, and then I then they
Speaker 1: brought me back and just kept bringing me back. So
Speaker 1: that's a didn't book and then end up booking and
Speaker 1: booking ums. I auditioned for Free Willie. Free Willie. What
Speaker 1: was that crazy movie water World? I understood for water
Speaker 1: roll and they roll instead of a boy whoa character
Speaker 1: probably with the you on your back. Yeah that was
Speaker 1: I don't know how they changed it, but I just
Speaker 1: remember they I think they would with a girl. That
Speaker 1: was a nice easy shoot from everything I've read. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of the biggest disasters in history, Danielle, yours is
Speaker 1: free Willie. Yeah. I tested for Free Willy and they
Speaker 1: end up giving it to that killer whale. I really
Speaker 1: wanted to be the whale. They changed it, the ched
Speaker 1: it up a little girl and he helped her escape,
Speaker 1: and they decided it was free. It was free Danielle.
Speaker 1: Originally it was free TOPI, and then this whale came
Speaker 1: in nailed it, and they were like, this thing is
Speaker 1: gonna be huge, no pun intemper. Remember I wish for
Speaker 1: free will several times. Remember that one kind of on
Speaker 1: the same subject. You talk about gigs that I um
Speaker 1: didn't book that I wish I would have booked. I
Speaker 1: said the wood was one. But how about gigs that
Speaker 1: could have been bigger gigs like um pilots pilot called
Speaker 1: Finally Home for Aaron Spelling and it had um Melissa
Speaker 1: Gilbert was one of the stars of it, you know,
Speaker 1: from Little House on the Prairie, And I did the pilot,
Speaker 1: but it didn't it didn't pick up. So that was
Speaker 1: a little disappointed because that was at that point where
Speaker 1: I was starting back to work again. I was eighteen,
Speaker 1: so I could play younger and and work as so
Speaker 1: that one and then I did. Uh there was a
Speaker 1: show called Rewind What Fox end up doing that seventies
Speaker 1: show instead of rewinnd It was like they had these
Speaker 1: two seventies flashbacks shows. Rewind was one with Scott Bayo
Speaker 1: and Maestro Clark, which is the one I did, and
Speaker 1: I they would flash back to the seventies and then
Speaker 1: they end up going with that seventies show. So those
Speaker 1: two shows that could have gone some there that you know,
Speaker 1: do you guys remember back in the day there used
Speaker 1: to be a movie of the weeks and and they
Speaker 1: but but do you remember how all the networks would
Speaker 1: be making the same mow So something would happen in
Speaker 1: the news, like do you remember there was the Texas
Speaker 1: Cheerleader mom. A mom hired some killer to like murder
Speaker 1: another whatever. It was like a big scandal. And so
Speaker 1: then like the next pilot season, they were all three
Speaker 1: networks were making their version of that story as a
Speaker 1: mo the week, And so if you were like you'd
Speaker 1: get auditions, you'd be like, this is the same character name,
Speaker 1: but it's a completely different script. And they would all
Speaker 1: be casting at the same time. So we'd all be going.
Speaker 1: I remember going out for like, you know, the same
Speaker 1: movie three different times for three different networks, and they
Speaker 1: would all make them and they would all air and
Speaker 1: only one of them would do any good or you
Speaker 1: know whatever. But yeah, it's such a funny thing. My
Speaker 1: favorite the audition flashbacks. Yeah, you get those everything, Like then,
Speaker 1: I thought about the audition for South Central. I really
Speaker 1: wanted that movie and I didn't get it. I was like,
Speaker 1: and I wanted that movie. I remember a movie back
Speaker 1: in New York. Um I was eleven or twelve, and
Speaker 1: it was called The Wind on Fire and it was
Speaker 1: the coolest script in the world. A kid gets separate
Speaker 1: like a kid's parents if I remember this correctly, are
Speaker 1: um like, uh workers like international workers in the Middle
Speaker 1: East and in Afghanistan, and he gets separated from his
Speaker 1: parents and essentially either the parents are killed or they're separated,
Speaker 1: and he is adopted by the Mujahadin and is trained
Speaker 1: as a Mujahadin freedom fighter and has to learn how
Speaker 1: to speak Arabic and do all this. And I was
Speaker 1: it was incredible, no, And I was like I was booked.
Speaker 1: It essentially booked in the role I had gone in
Speaker 1: ten times. I was going to go into the Middle
Speaker 1: East like it was nuts. And I think that's when
Speaker 1: the first Gulf four started to break out. Something happened. Um,
Speaker 1: but it was I remember that, Yeah, I seriously I
Speaker 1: remember that script though, just thinking like this is gonna
Speaker 1: be the coolest experience of doing this. But the thing
Speaker 1: that still killed me, the one, the one that got
Speaker 1: away from me was the Michael Jordan's commercial because it
Speaker 1: was all about commercials in New York, especially as a kid,
Speaker 1: and it was the Michael Jordan's coke commercial where he's
Speaker 1: in the um. All the kids are in the treehouse
Speaker 1: and they're sitting there and they're talking about Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: and drinking coke, and all of a sudden, the curtains
Speaker 1: open and Michael Jordan comes in there like Michael, and
Speaker 1: he hangs out with him and gives him shoes, and
Speaker 1: it was down between myself and one of their kids.
Speaker 1: I still remember his name, Mike Moran. And Mike Moran
Speaker 1: booked every commercial there was, and he was he just was.
Speaker 1: And that was the one that he didn't know what
Speaker 1: to do with your hands and were everybody had exactly
Speaker 1: if you had worn a belt often for Michael Jordan commercials,
Speaker 1: that would have been it funny Michael Jordan's story. While
Speaker 1: we're talking about Michael Jordan's So, I'm a little kid,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I don't know, ten years old and
Speaker 1: I'm at the Clipper game and I'm watching the Bulls
Speaker 1: play the Clippers, watching Jordan play. And I was a
Speaker 1: part of his flight club. You know, you give used
Speaker 1: one I D card and I'm like, so I'm going
Speaker 1: to you know, by the locker room and stuff, and
Speaker 1: I'm scared. I'm like, Michael, I'm in your flight club.
Speaker 1: I'm a card. Carey, remember I'm a card. I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I was just like so whenever I would go to
Speaker 1: Bulls games, that was like some of the that I
Speaker 1: love going to Bulls games. When I got and then
Speaker 1: the funny part was Robert Townsen was sitting behind me
Speaker 1: and he could have took me in the locker room,
Speaker 1: but we didn't say anything in time that half time writer,
Speaker 1: What did you audition for that you didn't book that
Speaker 1: you like look back on? And many things, so many things. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the craziest day which I feel like I may have
Speaker 1: mentioned that there was a time when I I auditioned
Speaker 1: for Hook many many times and it you know, I
Speaker 1: made it down to the final whatever and um so
Speaker 1: I was flying down to l A from home to
Speaker 1: meet Steven Spielberg to audition for Hook. And the night before, uh,
Speaker 1: George Lucas found out and he was casting Young Indiana Jones,
Speaker 1: so he asked me to audition for him. So when
Speaker 1: one day I met George Lucas to play Young Indiana
Speaker 1: Jones and then Steven Spielberg in the same day to
Speaker 1: be Robin Williams Son in Hook, and it was the
Speaker 1: most overwhelming, awful day of my life. I mean, in
Speaker 1: some ways it was the greatest day in my life.
Speaker 1: But I was so nervous and the facts that came
Speaker 1: in the night before for the for the Indiana Jones
Speaker 1: audition was a three page monologue about mummification. So I
Speaker 1: just prepare this monologue and then go meet George Lucas
Speaker 1: And uh, if you've ever read or heard anything about
Speaker 1: George Lucas, he is a notoriously bad audition er and
Speaker 1: not not a very personal warm man. It was, it was.
Speaker 1: It was an awful experience and I like walked out crying, miserable,
Speaker 1: and my mom had to like cheer me up and like.
Speaker 1: And then we went to Amblin on the Universal lot
Speaker 1: and this was around Christmas time, and Spielberg had pumped
Speaker 1: in snow around the offices he had. I got there
Speaker 1: and and he was and they go, oh, take him
Speaker 1: to the game room. And they had a waiting room
Speaker 1: full of video games just for the kids auditioning to
Speaker 1: play video games and relax. And then they pull you
Speaker 1: from the game room and you go sit in a
Speaker 1: little room with your parent alone with a fire crackling
Speaker 1: to calm you down. And then they call you in
Speaker 1: and Spielberg could not be He's like the most effusive,
Speaker 1: mind generous, just jumps up, talks and walked me through
Speaker 1: like we spent like half an hour together acting. I
Speaker 1: mean it's everything that you hear about Spielberg and it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is and I you know, I
Speaker 1: wanted that job so bad because I just wanted to
Speaker 1: work with him and I wanted to a movie like
Speaker 1: Hook where I got to be, you know, on a
Speaker 1: pirate ship and do all this stuff. He wanted to
Speaker 1: work with Phil Collins, Charlie Karsmo was booking everything at that.
Speaker 1: Did you audition for that? Yeah, you must have been
Speaker 1: part of the Hook. But we did the same thing
Speaker 1: with the Little Arcade or Win the video game the
Speaker 1: game Room. Yeah, when I auditioned for Spielberg for a
Speaker 1: Little Giants, all right, yeah that's crazy. And then and
Speaker 1: then yeah they gave it to Julia Roberts instead. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had a meeting at amble And a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago and I was like the last time I
Speaker 1: was here, I was and I was like, and they
Speaker 1: were like, they still have a game room. Apparently they
Speaker 1: still have it. So that's amazing. Really, I hope they
Speaker 1: updated it now they need like PS five No, it
Speaker 1: was would be great. Writer would still kill it at
Speaker 1: Writer was the best Street Fighter two player in the
Speaker 1: his three of the game. Oh, you guys used to
Speaker 1: play video games on set too? Sure in that you
Speaker 1: guys were doing that when I was on set that
Speaker 1: they wanted us to exercise the first season and in
Speaker 1: the second season they're like, that's fine, given some video
Speaker 1: games and some ping pong and will count it table.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, wow, but didn't we all have like
Speaker 1: the video games back then? Though video games are cool,
Speaker 1: there's two buttons. Now I'm that guy. I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: loud and I don't know what the actual black guys. Guy,
Speaker 1: your one year old son has he seen your work?
Speaker 1: What does he have a favorite? Tell me? Tell me
Speaker 1: what your kids have seen and what they love. Okay,
Speaker 1: my son, Uh, he's always telling people about Candy Band
Speaker 1: and baby Body. Yeah, he's the one to tell me
Speaker 1: about your podcast. Want to tell me about the podcast?
Speaker 1: Shout out to him. He was like, they're doing this podcast.
Speaker 1: They're talking about you and boy this world. I said,
Speaker 1: all right, son, I told him, I said, hey, they
Speaker 1: contacted me. They want me to be on the show.
Speaker 1: So I told him that Junior Duan Jr. Is the
Speaker 1: one that's following in my footsteps for the most part,
Speaker 1: and then probably in a little bit because he's dabbling.
Speaker 1: He's in high school, so you know he dabbles in band,
Speaker 1: he dabbles in acting. Well, he said, do want Juniors?
Speaker 1: Is doing music? Is there is there anything we can
Speaker 1: we can listen to on? He goes Bob they Kwan
Speaker 1: the Guy and he's on Apple He's on Apple Music. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he might be on Spotify too, but
Speaker 1: I know he's on Apple Music. Um, but it's a
Speaker 1: working progress. You know he's doing he's doing songs here.
Speaker 1: He hasn't done a full like album or anything yet,
Speaker 1: but he's been releasing some singles and as he works
Speaker 1: with his friend who has a studio. I actually went
Speaker 1: to school for audio engineering a few years back. So um, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's active in it. But like I said, where
Speaker 1: can people find you? Now? Where can people? People are
Speaker 1: gonna listen to this, They're gonna want to see what
Speaker 1: you're working on? What are you doing now? And where
Speaker 1: can we find you? Where can you find me? Now?
Speaker 1: Will I have an Instagram? I have what is your
Speaker 1: Instagram name? I think it's just the one guy, or
Speaker 1: it might be look look like a guy, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just the one guy. And then I put on
Speaker 1: their actor and I have my Facebook which is just
Speaker 1: the one guy um and my Winner which is at
Speaker 1: guy Demand. I look forward to getting more in to
Speaker 1: do some doing some more acting. I've worked on some
Speaker 1: projects what you what you call those? Uh not independent project,
Speaker 1: you know, the independent projects. I've done a few of
Speaker 1: those just to keep my chops up. And you know,
Speaker 1: I love acting, so I do it for free, even
Speaker 1: though we love the month, we love to get paid
Speaker 1: to do it, but um, you know I do it
Speaker 1: for free and I have done it for free. And
Speaker 1: other than I actually worked on the project together and
Speaker 1: he played my son. Well, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us to on. It was a real pleasure. Thank
Speaker 1: you for having me or I'll see. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: really the first time I've ever met to one. I
Speaker 1: wasn't in an episode with That's true, isn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't. I didn't have like a specific, you know,
Speaker 1: memory of being on set with him, and but uh yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: I mean what a career he's had. He was on everything,
Speaker 1: I mean everything nineties he was on Well, I can't
Speaker 1: get when you're you know, I mean at that age,
Speaker 1: like if you work, you just keep working. You know,
Speaker 1: like as a kid actor, especially back then, like there
Speaker 1: weren't there just weren't that many of us. You know,
Speaker 1: there was that very you got the talent. I mean,
Speaker 1: he had had the talent to stay working. You know.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing is it's people forget that where
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, yeah, you worked a lot if
Speaker 1: you were a young actor, but if you were a
Speaker 1: talented young actor, um, and and if you had like
Speaker 1: a good family or you know, because if we're a nightmare,
Speaker 1: like you get hired again and casting directors would remember
Speaker 1: that and the word would get out and that happened
Speaker 1: a lot. You know, kids would be really talented, but
Speaker 1: the their their social skills or their parents or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's just it was, you know, a dangerous situation for
Speaker 1: a set to have that person around. So those people
Speaker 1: wouldn't work. But it's not like he was very grounded
Speaker 1: and had his community and everything that he needed. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it was really cool. Well, thank you guys for joining
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