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Speaker 1: me right here. Oh boy, welcome to Pod meets World.

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Speaker 1: I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm brad Or Strong, and I'm Wilfredell. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's bring in our guest for today. He is somebody

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Speaker 1: I am really excited to welcome to One. Guy who

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Speaker 1: to One. Welcome. How are you? I'm doing good? How

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Speaker 1: excited to have you here. You grew up. You grew up? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: podcasts you'll love, especially ours, Daniel, I have to go back.

432
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 1: I apologize, but I'm such a fan of In Living Color. Um.

433
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: Which cast members did you get to work with? I'm

434
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: dying to know who you were actually in the show

435
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 1: with because it was one of David Allen Greer and

436
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: Jamie Foxx. I mean it was like one of the best,

437
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: was one of the fly girls. I mean it was

438
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: The cast was incredible. So who did you get to

439
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: work with while you were there? David Allen Greer, Jim Carrey, Wow,

440
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: Jamie fox It was an episode one episode? I did, uh,

441
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: David Allen Greer, I was like just like a Native

442
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: American with the bow and arrow kind of thing, and

443
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: he had hemorrhoids. I don't know, it was like, you know,

444
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: color they had like some Woe. The other one with

445
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey h which Jamie Fox was a part of

446
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: two was it was like make a death wish. So

447
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be the sick kid and he's let

448
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: me do whatever I want to do. You let me

449
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: playing the super Bowl, you know, flying airplane. Oh jeez.

450
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: So that was a lot of fun working with Jim

451
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: Carey and Jamie Fox and David that was a fun

452
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: set to work on. It was I do a really

453
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: great fire Marshal Bill impersonation that I won't do because

454
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: you can't bring that up and then say I'm not

455
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: going that's not It was such a huge fan But

456
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: let me tell you a right, pretty good right. The

457
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: best part that you didn't really get to stands that

458
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Speaker 1: I can do the next How did you pop them out?

459
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: So like normally I have to dry my teeth? How

460
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: did you You just did it instantly? I can go

461
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: right into it A long time. I spent a long

462
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: time perfecting that well, because in Living Color came after

463
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Speaker 1: I'm Going to Get You Sucker, which is one of

464
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 1: the funniest eighties movies ever, and and Ivory Waynes wrote

465
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: and directed and started it and it was so good,

466
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: and David Allen Greer shined in that movie at a

467
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: tiny part and was hysterical. And I remember every time

468
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: watching In Living Color going how is he not the

469
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: biggest comedian in the world. How is David Angrier not

470
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: the biggest comedian? He's so funny and was one of

471
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: those underrated kind of people. And then In Living Color

472
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: came out and I was like, Oh, finally he's got

473
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Speaker 1: a shot. So at the idea that you're on set

474
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: and you're working with David Allen Greer and Jim Carrey

475
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: and Jamie Fox, I didn't know if it was gonna

476
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Speaker 1: be a recurring role. I think I did know at

477
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: one point that was gonna come back again, you know,

478
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: after the first episode. Uh, but it's fine to find

479
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: out about. I was excited about it. I was My

480
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: agent used to do a thing where she would ring

481
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Speaker 1: the bill. She had a bill so if you booked something,

482
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Speaker 1: she would ring the bill. So I was you know,

483
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: I was definite when I heard the bill ring and

484
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: I know it was Winn's World. I was excited about it.

485
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: It was gonna you know, be on a cool studio

486
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Speaker 1: lot and um, yeah, you know, have a lot of fun.

487
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: You know, we were with those water guns. We were

488
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: having fun with that water war. Then it was the

489
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: painting Defense and you know, working with Ben and then

490
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: Fred came on set and I got to meet him,

491
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: and I knew him from the Wonder Years. So I

492
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: was like, that was kind of plas I remember when

493
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: you was a kid working on the Wonder Years. Yeah,

494
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: so I remember him coming on set. Um, have you

495
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: heard us talk about what we lovingly dubbed as the

496
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: death chair? No? What is what? What did you call

497
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: the death chair? So? The death chair was the chair

498
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: of the Third Friend. That was basically the first season

499
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: of Boy Meets World. For at least the first several episodes,

500
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: they were really trying to find that third friend. It

501
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: was gonna be Corey, Sean and this other friend, and

502
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: they were going through kids and kids would come on

503
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: and they do one episode and then we'd never see

504
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: them again, and you run of the rare guests that

505
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: stayed for two episodes. And so I was wondering if

506
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: you had heard us talk about that at all? And

507
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Speaker 1: do you remember then finding out you weren't going to

508
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: come back after after you had done two episodes? Was

509
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Speaker 1: there ever any sort of conversation about not coming back

510
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: or was it just that you didn't get another call? Uh,

511
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't get a call to come back. Um,

512
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was a possibility because I did two episodes,

513
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: and anytime you do two episodes. Later, when I worked

514
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: on Boston Public, you know that means more episodes. Possibly

515
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: I became recurring. And you know, I learned early on

516
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: in this business. Remember the Boys in the Hood story,

517
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: So I learned early on that you just kind of

518
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: gotta best yourself off and move on to the next

519
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: but not take it personally. But I definitely had a

520
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: great time working with everybody on the set, and you

521
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: know it was Yeah, then don't forget it was Mincaus.

522
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: Mincus is the one that stopped for a little while. Yeah, yeah,

523
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: we've talked about. Now. I have a question for everybody,

524
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: because I honestly don't know. Do you think, as they

525
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: were trying to find this third friend because they have

526
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: to write the scripts ahead of time, so they're they're

527
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: working on scripts down the line, do you think they'd

528
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: bring a friend on and have that friend in two

529
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: or three episodes and then the actor didn't work out,

530
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: so they take them out of future scripts or do

531
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: you think they were never put into future scripts? Like

532
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: how would that work? Well, you gotta think with kid actors,

533
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,719
Speaker 1: it's not just the kid, it's everything that comes with

534
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: the kid. I'm gonna leave it there. I'm gonna leave

535
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: it there. It's not just the kid. It's the full package,

536
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: whatever that is. I look at it, it's the full package.

537
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: And I think maybe they were unsure in some cases,

538
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe the full package just wasn't the

539
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: right fit. And you know, who knows is a number

540
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: of reasons, especially dealing with child actors, that could be

541
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, who really knows. I wanted to ask you

542
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: because you mentioned being able to dust yourself off because

543
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: of your very first experience with boys in the hood.

544
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: How do you dust yourself off? What are your like

545
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: skills and what how do you not take something personally?

546
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: It's it's something that I think actors deal with all

547
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: the time, the rejection, but it's not something that um

548
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: that people outside of the entertainment industry have to deal

549
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: with that often. Uh, And so what are your skills

550
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: for dusting yourself off? Well, one thing that I was

551
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: pretty as a young kid, teenager, I was active in

552
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: my church, So I didn't just have I wasn't just

553
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: solely focused on, you know, just school and then working

554
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: on somebody's set. You know. I was inquires praise teams.

555
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: So there's the faith based there. And um, there was

556
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: a time when I even turned down a role because

557
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: I had committed to doing you know, MC in a

558
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: concert and leading some songs at a concert from my church.

559
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 1: And it was a movie we all turned down. And

560
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: it ended up being my grandmother rest in peace, who

561
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: was like a mother to me. I was very close to.

562
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: I got a couple of tattoos dedicated to her. Uh.

563
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: She passed in two thousand one and it was the

564
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: last thing she saw me do was that concert, and

565
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: she would have never saw the movie. So um, and

566
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm still active in my church and I sent on

567
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: to praise team at my church now. Uh but I think,

568
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: like I said, I went to the private school and

569
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: some of my faith based kind of helped God. This

570
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 1: is not all I'm living for is to be on

571
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: television already get a role. Um, but yeah, anybody is

572
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: disappointed you audition for. I remember some big stuff I

573
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: audition for. I distion for the Jackson vide movie and

574
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: I auditioned for the Wood. I there's a lot of

575
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: stuff that I auditioned for that I didn't book for

576
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: whatever reason. And I think, I think your answer is

577
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: exactly right, man. I think having a community outside of

578
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry, you know, because so many kid actors, unfortunately,

579
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: it becomes their parents life to you know, like that

580
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: their kids work or not. Work becomes so important to

581
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: their parents. And then you know, especially if you're moving

582
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: from somewhere else to come to Los Angeles, you don't

583
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: have a community. You know, people don't have community, so

584
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: they come here and like you see, you know at

585
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: the Oak Waid apartments, the you know, it's usually a

586
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: mom with their kid and they're isolated from their community

587
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: and the career becomes everything. And that the pressure that

588
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: that puts on a kid. Oh, you know, like for me,

589
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: because the support system. You know what, even though I

590
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: was making money, of course, um I didn't get that pressure.

591
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: Nobody pressure like you know, I was. I was pulling

592
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: my weight so to speak, for whatever, you know, obvious reasons.

593
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: But I um, I never got the pressure like I

594
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: had to work, like you have to book this gig,

595
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: you know, you haven't booked a gig in six months.

596
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: I never got I never got that pressure, and I'm

597
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: glad I didn't. I was very because I'm sure that

598
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: there are probably were kids out there in the industry

599
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: where that we're getting that pressure. Who's you know. I

600
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: was just in a situation where, you know, things were

601
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: able to stay afloat, you know, and it wasn't all

602
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: on me to keep everybody, you know, afloat, so to speak.

603
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: And people who gave up their careers for their kids career,

604
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: then that puts a lot pressure because Okay, if you

605
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: don't book gigs, how's the rent don't get paid? How exactly,

606
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: how's the car not gonna get paid? How'm gonna get

607
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: you to your auditions? You know? Um, and auditions were

608
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: everywhere back in the day. You you pull out the

609
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: Thomas Guy, Thomas Guide, Thomas Guide. I remember flipping to

610
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: the Thomas Guy and helping my mom like, oh my god,

611
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: sitting staying back seat, flipping that and happy to be

612
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: like be four bar and Boulevard is on B four

613
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: And then you're like, I mean I figured out how

614
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: to learn I learned how to read maps at a

615
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: very young age, and I got very good at it,

616
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: just so I could tell my mom, No, no, it's

617
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: the other Ventura Boulevard, Like, oh my god. Can we

618
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: explain very quickly to our our listeners what the Thomas

619
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: Guide was, because I'm gonna tell us right now. A

620
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: series of Los Angeles is a crazy giant city all

621
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: built around the car. So it's you know, all freeways

622
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: and all streets and highways. It's it's it's amaze. And

623
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: so the famous maps that were produced were these giant

624
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: books called Thomas Thomas Brothers Maps right there, Thomas Brothers,

625
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: Thomas brother I was just a Thomas guy, Thomas Guy.

626
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: I always called it the Thomas Guide, and it was.

627
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: It was. Yeah, it was just a huge book. It was.

628
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: But it had it had a spiral binders, the page

629
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: spiral bindus. You can flip the pages back, and the

630
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: pages were long. It was, they were there. It was

631
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: bigger than a normal book eight and a half by eleven,

632
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: but the eleven horizon it was horizontal with Yeah, it was.

633
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: It was landscape is the phrase. Yeah, it was like

634
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: the landscape book. And you would have to flip through

635
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: it and find you in the back where all the

636
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: streets and with the numbers, and you have to search

637
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: the index. It was like a you know, three page

638
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: index of any street name. So if you got an audition,

639
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: you would get the address and then you have to

640
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: flip to the back of the Thomas Guide and you know,

641
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: look it up and then it would tell you what

642
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: page that that address in that street, and then it

643
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: would give you the you know, whether it was BE

644
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: four or C two or whatever, and you have then

645
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: flip back to that page, isolate where it is and

646
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: figure out where you are on the map. Anybody, did

647
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: anybody have a beeper? Oh? Yo, of course they had

648
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: the beeper? My page like, like, did anybody get that? No,

649
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: they had an audition because they got a page. If

650
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: you got access to a fax machine, you get the

651
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: facts sides the facts and was kind of not working.

652
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: So I have a question, So it rolled up the shiners.

653
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: So I was told to get two things when I

654
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: came out to Los Angeles. The Thomas Guide and what

655
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: was the other thing everybody had in their car? Oh?

656
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: The well I had. We had one of those Zach

657
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: Morris car phones. Yeah, okay, we had answer one of

658
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: those radars to tell you if the police that's a

659
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: good answer. But no, the thing everybody had. You had

660
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: the Thomas Guide and you had the club. Oh yeah,

661
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: done to your steering wheel and got really long so

662
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: that they couldn't turn your your steering wheel like hit

663
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: your windshield. Everybody had the club first car or something.

664
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: I had the club, the Club and the Thomas Guide,

665
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: and they scared the heck out of you because they say, oh,

666
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: you're moving to l A. Get this thing called the Club,

667
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: and if they don't steal your car, you can use

668
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: it to defend yourself. I was like, what where am

669
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: I moving to? That was the other thing. Every well

670
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: down the beach and go. But the Thomas guy did

671
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: you guys have to like playing your auditions, Like when

672
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: you got your audition, like okay, map it out going, okay, yeah.

673
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: That there was no way to know how long it

674
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: is going to take you to get there. There was

675
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: like three hours. We were always we were always late.

676
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: My mom was always so stressed out, Like, oh my god,

677
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: the anxiety I get just thinking about this guy, and

678
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: like how much pressure I felt, you know, because we

679
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: were just always lost. We were always lost. Traffic was

680
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: always a miserable. Oh my god. Well Los Angeles. You're

681
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: either an hour early or two hours late every time.

682
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: I hated being late, but you never if you were

683
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: going to hit this crazy l a traffic or something

684
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: that was just gonna put you in a parking lot. Yeah,

685
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: so do wan. You mentioned auditioning for the Jackson five movie.

686
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: What are is that? The is that like the craziest

687
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: thing you auditioned for that didn't book? Or what's a

688
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: project for all of you will writer? What is something

689
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: you auditioned for that You're like, man, that could have

690
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: been me, but I didn't book it? Um, baby boy?

691
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: You looked it? What's the spill the key? Well? I

692
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 1: remember you might not have heard this, but here I said,

693
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: auditioned for Jody, which was Tyrese's character, the Leader. So

694
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: I was like, I was. I was happy to do

695
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: the film, of course, but it was like, if there's

696
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: anything that I auditioned for, not as a kid, but

697
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: that was the first thing that made me think of

698
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: like baby boy, I wish i'd been am gonna do

699
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: the leading that like that, but as a kid that

700
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: I didn't book. Well, I actually I didn't book Boston

701
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: Public the first few times, and then I then they

702
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: brought me back and just kept bringing me back. So

703
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: that's a didn't book and then end up booking and

704
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: booking ums. I auditioned for Free Willie. Free Willie. What

705
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: was that crazy movie water World? I understood for water

706
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: roll and they roll instead of a boy whoa character

707
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: probably with the you on your back. Yeah that was

708
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: I don't know how they changed it, but I just

709
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: remember they I think they would with a girl. That

710
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 1: was a nice easy shoot from everything I've read. Yeah,

711
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: one of the biggest disasters in history, Danielle, yours is

712
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: free Willie. Yeah. I tested for Free Willy and they

713
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: end up giving it to that killer whale. I really

714
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: wanted to be the whale. They changed it, the ched

715
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: it up a little girl and he helped her escape,

716
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: and they decided it was free. It was free Danielle.

717
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: Originally it was free TOPI, and then this whale came

718
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: in nailed it, and they were like, this thing is

719
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: gonna be huge, no pun intemper. Remember I wish for

720
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: free will several times. Remember that one kind of on

721
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: the same subject. You talk about gigs that I um

722
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: didn't book that I wish I would have booked. I

723
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: said the wood was one. But how about gigs that

724
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: could have been bigger gigs like um pilots pilot called

725
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: Finally Home for Aaron Spelling and it had um Melissa

726
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: Gilbert was one of the stars of it, you know,

727
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: from Little House on the Prairie, And I did the pilot,

728
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: but it didn't it didn't pick up. So that was

729
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: a little disappointed because that was at that point where

730
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: I was starting back to work again. I was eighteen,

731
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: so I could play younger and and work as so

732
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: that one and then I did. Uh there was a

733
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: show called Rewind What Fox end up doing that seventies

734
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: show instead of rewinnd It was like they had these

735
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: two seventies flashbacks shows. Rewind was one with Scott Bayo

736
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: and Maestro Clark, which is the one I did, and

737
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: I they would flash back to the seventies and then

738
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: they end up going with that seventies show. So those

739
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: two shows that could have gone some there that you know,

740
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: do you guys remember back in the day there used

741
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: to be a movie of the weeks and and they

742
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: but but do you remember how all the networks would

743
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: be making the same mow So something would happen in

744
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: the news, like do you remember there was the Texas

745
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: Cheerleader mom. A mom hired some killer to like murder

746
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: another whatever. It was like a big scandal. And so

747
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: then like the next pilot season, they were all three

748
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: networks were making their version of that story as a

749
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 1: mo the week, And so if you were like you'd

750
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: get auditions, you'd be like, this is the same character name,

751
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: but it's a completely different script. And they would all

752
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: be casting at the same time. So we'd all be going.

753
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: I remember going out for like, you know, the same

754
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: movie three different times for three different networks, and they

755
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: would all make them and they would all air and

756
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: only one of them would do any good or you

757
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: know whatever. But yeah, it's such a funny thing. My

758
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: favorite the audition flashbacks. Yeah, you get those everything, Like then,

759
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: I thought about the audition for South Central. I really

760
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: wanted that movie and I didn't get it. I was like,

761
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: and I wanted that movie. I remember a movie back

762
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: in New York. Um I was eleven or twelve, and

763
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: it was called The Wind on Fire and it was

764
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: the coolest script in the world. A kid gets separate

765
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: like a kid's parents if I remember this correctly, are

766
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: um like, uh workers like international workers in the Middle

767
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: East and in Afghanistan, and he gets separated from his

768
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: parents and essentially either the parents are killed or they're separated,

769
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: and he is adopted by the Mujahadin and is trained

770
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: as a Mujahadin freedom fighter and has to learn how

771
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: to speak Arabic and do all this. And I was

772
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: it was incredible, no, And I was like I was booked.

773
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: It essentially booked in the role I had gone in

774
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: ten times. I was going to go into the Middle

775
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,479
Speaker 1: East like it was nuts. And I think that's when

776
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: the first Gulf four started to break out. Something happened. Um,

777
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: but it was I remember that, Yeah, I seriously I

778
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: remember that script though, just thinking like this is gonna

779
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: be the coolest experience of doing this. But the thing

780
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: that still killed me, the one, the one that got

781
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: away from me was the Michael Jordan's commercial because it

782
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: was all about commercials in New York, especially as a kid,

783
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: and it was the Michael Jordan's coke commercial where he's

784
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: in the um. All the kids are in the treehouse

785
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: and they're sitting there and they're talking about Michael Jordan

786
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: and drinking coke, and all of a sudden, the curtains

787
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: open and Michael Jordan comes in there like Michael, and

788
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: he hangs out with him and gives him shoes, and

789
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: it was down between myself and one of their kids.

790
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: I still remember his name, Mike Moran. And Mike Moran

791
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: booked every commercial there was, and he was he just was.

792
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: And that was the one that he didn't know what

793
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: to do with your hands and were everybody had exactly

794
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: if you had worn a belt often for Michael Jordan commercials,

795
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: that would have been it funny Michael Jordan's story. While

796
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about Michael Jordan's So, I'm a little kid,

797
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I don't know, ten years old and

798
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm at the Clipper game and I'm watching the Bulls

799
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: play the Clippers, watching Jordan play. And I was a

800
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: part of his flight club. You know, you give used

801
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: one I D card and I'm like, so I'm going

802
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: to you know, by the locker room and stuff, and

803
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm scared. I'm like, Michael, I'm in your flight club.

804
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm a card. Carey, remember I'm a card. I don't remember.

805
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: I was just like so whenever I would go to

806
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: Bulls games, that was like some of the that I

807
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: love going to Bulls games. When I got and then

808
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: the funny part was Robert Townsen was sitting behind me

809
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: and he could have took me in the locker room,

810
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: but we didn't say anything in time that half time writer,

811
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: What did you audition for that you didn't book that

812
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: you like look back on? And many things, so many things. Uh. Yeah,

813
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: the craziest day which I feel like I may have

814
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 1: mentioned that there was a time when I I auditioned

815
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: for Hook many many times and it you know, I

816
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: made it down to the final whatever and um so

817
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: I was flying down to l A from home to

818
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: meet Steven Spielberg to audition for Hook. And the night before, uh,

819
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: George Lucas found out and he was casting Young Indiana Jones,

820
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: so he asked me to audition for him. So when

821
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 1: one day I met George Lucas to play Young Indiana

822
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: Jones and then Steven Spielberg in the same day to

823
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: be Robin Williams Son in Hook, and it was the

824
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: most overwhelming, awful day of my life. I mean, in

825
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: some ways it was the greatest day in my life.

826
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: But I was so nervous and the facts that came

827
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: in the night before for the for the Indiana Jones

828
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: audition was a three page monologue about mummification. So I

829
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: just prepare this monologue and then go meet George Lucas

830
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: And uh, if you've ever read or heard anything about

831
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: George Lucas, he is a notoriously bad audition er and

832
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: not not a very personal warm man. It was, it was.

833
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: It was an awful experience and I like walked out crying, miserable,

834
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: and my mom had to like cheer me up and like.

835
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: And then we went to Amblin on the Universal lot

836
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: and this was around Christmas time, and Spielberg had pumped

837
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: in snow around the offices he had. I got there

838
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: and and he was and they go, oh, take him

839
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: to the game room. And they had a waiting room

840
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: full of video games just for the kids auditioning to

841
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: play video games and relax. And then they pull you

842
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: from the game room and you go sit in a

843
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: little room with your parent alone with a fire crackling

844
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: to calm you down. And then they call you in

845
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: and Spielberg could not be He's like the most effusive,

846
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: mind generous, just jumps up, talks and walked me through

847
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: like we spent like half an hour together acting. I

848
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: mean it's everything that you hear about Spielberg and it

849
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is and I you know, I

850
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: wanted that job so bad because I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: work with him and I wanted to a movie like

852
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Speaker 1: Hook where I got to be, you know, on a

853
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: pirate ship and do all this stuff. He wanted to

854
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Speaker 1: work with Phil Collins, Charlie Karsmo was booking everything at that.

855
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Speaker 1: Did you audition for that? Yeah, you must have been

856
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Speaker 1: part of the Hook. But we did the same thing

857
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Speaker 1: with the Little Arcade or Win the video game the

858
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Speaker 1: game Room. Yeah, when I auditioned for Spielberg for a

859
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Speaker 1: Little Giants, all right, yeah that's crazy. And then and

860
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Speaker 1: then yeah they gave it to Julia Roberts instead. Yeah.

861
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Speaker 1: I had a meeting at amble And a couple of

862
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: years ago and I was like the last time I

863
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Speaker 1: was here, I was and I was like, and they

864
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: were like, they still have a game room. Apparently they

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Speaker 1: still have it. So that's amazing. Really, I hope they

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Speaker 1: updated it now they need like PS five No, it

867
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Speaker 1: was would be great. Writer would still kill it at

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Speaker 1: Writer was the best Street Fighter two player in the

869
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Speaker 1: his three of the game. Oh, you guys used to

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Speaker 1: play video games on set too? Sure in that you

871
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Speaker 1: guys were doing that when I was on set that

872
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: they wanted us to exercise the first season and in

873
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: the second season they're like, that's fine, given some video

874
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 1: games and some ping pong and will count it table.

875
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, wow, but didn't we all have like

876
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: the video games back then? Though video games are cool,

877
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: there's two buttons. Now I'm that guy. I'm like, it's

878
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: loud and I don't know what the actual black guys. Guy,

879
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: your one year old son has he seen your work?

880
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: What does he have a favorite? Tell me? Tell me

881
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: what your kids have seen and what they love. Okay,

882
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: my son, Uh, he's always telling people about Candy Band

883
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: and baby Body. Yeah, he's the one to tell me

884
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: about your podcast. Want to tell me about the podcast?

885
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: Shout out to him. He was like, they're doing this podcast.

886
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: They're talking about you and boy this world. I said,

887
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: all right, son, I told him, I said, hey, they

888
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: contacted me. They want me to be on the show.

889
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: So I told him that Junior Duan Jr. Is the

890
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: one that's following in my footsteps for the most part,

891
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: and then probably in a little bit because he's dabbling.

892
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: He's in high school, so you know he dabbles in band,

893
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: he dabbles in acting. Well, he said, do want Juniors?

894
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 1: Is doing music? Is there is there anything we can

895
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: we can listen to on? He goes Bob they Kwan

896
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: the Guy and he's on Apple He's on Apple Music. Um,

897
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he might be on Spotify too, but

898
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: I know he's on Apple Music. Um, but it's a

899
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: working progress. You know he's doing he's doing songs here.

900
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: He hasn't done a full like album or anything yet,

901
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: but he's been releasing some singles and as he works

902
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: with his friend who has a studio. I actually went

903
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 1: to school for audio engineering a few years back. So um, yeah,

904
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: he's he's active in it. But like I said, where

905
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: can people find you? Now? Where can people? People are

906
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: gonna listen to this, They're gonna want to see what

907
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: you're working on? What are you doing now? And where

908
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: can we find you? Where can you find me? Now?

909
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: Will I have an Instagram? I have what is your

910
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: Instagram name? I think it's just the one guy, or

911
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: it might be look look like a guy, but yeah,

912
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: it's just the one guy. And then I put on

913
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: their actor and I have my Facebook which is just

914
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: the one guy um and my Winner which is at

915
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: guy Demand. I look forward to getting more in to

916
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: do some doing some more acting. I've worked on some

917
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: projects what you what you call those? Uh not independent project,

918
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, the independent projects. I've done a few of

919
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: those just to keep my chops up. And you know,

920
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: I love acting, so I do it for free, even

921
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 1: though we love the month, we love to get paid

922
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: to do it, but um, you know I do it

923
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: for free and I have done it for free. And

924
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: other than I actually worked on the project together and

925
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: he played my son. Well, thank you so much for

926
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: joining us to on. It was a real pleasure. Thank

927
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: you for having me or I'll see. I mean, that's

928
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: really the first time I've ever met to one. I

929
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: wasn't in an episode with That's true, isn't it. Yeah,

930
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: so I don't. I didn't have like a specific, you know,

931
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: memory of being on set with him, and but uh yeah, wow,

932
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean what a career he's had. He was on everything,

933
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: I mean everything nineties he was on Well, I can't

934
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: get when you're you know, I mean at that age,

935
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: like if you work, you just keep working. You know,

936
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: like as a kid actor, especially back then, like there

937
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: weren't there just weren't that many of us. You know,

938
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: there was that very you got the talent. I mean,

939
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: he had had the talent to stay working. You know.

940
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: That's the other thing is it's people forget that where

941
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, yeah, you worked a lot if

942
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: you were a young actor, but if you were a

943
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: talented young actor, um, and and if you had like

944
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: a good family or you know, because if we're a nightmare,

945
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: like you get hired again and casting directors would remember

946
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: that and the word would get out and that happened

947
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: a lot. You know, kids would be really talented, but

948
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: the their their social skills or their parents or whatever.

949
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: It's just it was, you know, a dangerous situation for

950
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 1: a set to have that person around. So those people

951
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't work. But it's not like he was very grounded

952
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: and had his community and everything that he needed. So yeah,

953
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: it was really cool. Well, thank you guys for joining

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Speaker 1: us for this amazing episode of pod Meats World. You

955
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956
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